Joe the Plumber plunges deeper: ‘Military should decide what information to give the media.’
Joe the Plumber plunges deeper: ‘Military should decide what information to give the media.’
Continuing his reporting from Israel, Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher tried to clarify his remarks criticizing media coverage of war, in a new Pajamas TV segment. He said that citizens “don’t need to see what’s happening every day” in war and said that it should be up to the military to decide what the media learns about war:
WURZELBACHER: you don’t need to see what’s happening every day, that’s my personal opinion, you don’t have to share it. But, you know, okay, you don’t have to see, you know, 800 dead, 801 dead. It’s like they drill that in your head. … They want you to sit there saying there are so many people dying. You know these are large, these are numbers, you know I don’t want to take away from that. Let me, uh, think about how to say that again. Just essentially, they keep drilling it into your head, newscast after newscast after newscast.
I think the military should decide what information to give the media and then the media can release it to the public. I don’t believe they need to be in the front lines with soldiers, I don’t believe they need to, uh, you know, be bothering the military for information or for access to certain areas.
Go to Pajamas TV to see the entire segment. His discussion of the media starts around the 13-minute mark.
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With luck Joe the unlicensed Plumber will step on a land mine while in the terrorist state of Israel and we won’t have to deal with him and his idiocy any longer.
January 13th, 2009 at 3:54 pm“You don’t need to see what’s happening every day.”
Yeah. Why trouble the little minds of the voters with scenes of devastation and death? The public shouldn’t concern themselves with such scenes of suffering and pain.
Just like they didn’t show the 9/11 attacks over and over and over, right? Oh, wait… THEY FREAKING DID.
January 13th, 2009 at 3:54 pmWasn’t he supposed to be going there to give unvarnished reporting free from bias? PJTV basically paid for an expensive plane ticket solely so this guy could wax stupid from the other side of the world instead of from his front yeard.
“Let me uh think about how to say that again.”
There’s some professional reporting, right there. Yep.
January 13th, 2009 at 3:55 pmYou know, it would be really funny if the military just told him to shut the hell up.
January 13th, 2009 at 3:56 pmI hope joe the fake plumber stays in the lime light a long time.
After all the longer people think of him as the GOP Mascot the worse it will be for the GOP.
January 13th, 2009 at 3:56 pmA week from today he and his nutty winger friends will execute a 180 and immediately declare that the government can’t be trusted and that they must expose all of Obama’s failures.
Ernie Pyle is spinning in his grave.
January 13th, 2009 at 3:58 pmCan we please rename this guy Joe The Fascist? It’ll be a heck of a lot more accurate, since he’s not actually a plumber.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:01 pmMorono-Fascism is alive and well I see.
Why is it these scumbags never want you to see the entrails on the floor?
January 13th, 2009 at 4:01 pmWhy the hell shouldn’t I be able to see what the military is up to? I paid for it with my tax dollars, extracted via threat of violence.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:01 pmNote to Joe: Look up the definition of “Public Affairs Officer”. Every military unit of battalion size or larger has one. It is their job to package the information and present it to the media. You see Joe, in order to propose changes you need to know how things work already.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:02 pmPlease explain to me again how Joe the Dumber has become an expert on ANYTHING?
January 13th, 2009 at 4:04 pmAnd why we need to heed his advice?
Sure Joe, and once the military decides what the public should see they’ll run it by you for your approval. We
January 13th, 2009 at 4:04 pmAm I the only one who believes this guy has a swastika tatoo somewhere on his body? And just how the hell is he still in the news? He was nothing when McCain found him, and now he’s nothing, but with a mic.
Go home, Joe. We care about your thoughts just as much as we care about Palin’s. Not at all.
PEACE
January 13th, 2009 at 4:06 pmWe need to hold John McCain responsible for bringing this dirtbag into our lives. He asked Obama one stupid question and McCain turned him into a hero. Somebody has to pay.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:06 pmGo to Pajamas TV to see the entire segment.
I would rather beat my head with a hammer, thanks….
January 13th, 2009 at 4:07 pmDoes Joe the Fascist think the military PAOs should be suppressing information like this:
January 13th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
It seems that the Right Wing has decided that it no longer needs to honor that document known as the Constitution.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:09 pmHas this guy forgotten what country he lives in?
January 13th, 2009 at 4:09 pmEvery dictator in history thought the same thing.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:14 pmHow to save money in the media:
1) Hire a wannabe.
2) Hire cheap editors.
3) Cue the dumdum to say something stupid that will make conservative pundits bite their tongues and Keith Olbermann’s head reenact the Hindenberg.
4) Repeat for ten days.
It seems that The Daily Show should just wait for these ten days to end, then run a whole damned special on Joe-isms.
Actually, you know, of all the people I want to see rip him a new one, George Stephanopolis ought to be leading the charge. He’s been giving us the names of the loved ones dying overseas every week. You want that information to be censored, Joe? Have a heart, you fraud.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:14 pmIgnoranceIsNotBliss Says:
Has this guy forgotten what country he lives in?
January 13th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
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No – he’s always been a citizen of the United Kingdom of Jesusland.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:14 pmHe just doesn’t get it.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:14 pmDoes he even realize what he is advocating?
January 13th, 2009 at 4:15 pmJoe, go on home now, you are making yourself a fool.
Why does he live in this country?
I’m sure there are other countries out there that have a much stronger control of the media and what they are allowed to report. I’m sure he would be much happier there.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:17 pmcaption…
January 13th, 2009 at 4:19 pm“I think, you know, I’m starting to get the hang of this… how do I put it… journalism thingy… I don’t even need no, you know, information or anything…”
From the 14 points of Fascism:
Chris LeJeune Says:
Note to Joe: Look up the definition of “Public Affairs Officer”.
Ah, but he’s saying that’s the only information the media should have access to. They’d just copy/paste it into their dispatch and then go hit up the nearest bar.
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IgnoranceIsNotBliss Says:
Has this guy forgotten what country he lives in?
All wingnuts desire only to tear down everything that America stands for. That’s because they hate freedom. They must be stopped.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:19 pmJoe never switched over to lead-free pipe solder.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:20 pmElBruce Says:
Ah, but he’s saying that’s the only information the media should have access to. They’d just copy/paste it into their dispatch and then go hit up the nearest bar.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
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Right. He’s just calling for the media to reprise its stenography performance from the start of the Iraq war.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:21 pmJStewart said it best, I think.
Joe, GO AWAY!!!
January 13th, 2009 at 4:21 pmJoe the Plumber is also Joe the Fascist Reporter
January 13th, 2009 at 4:22 pmum…no thanks. i get more than enough of Joe the Numbnuts, even when i try to go somewhere to try and avoid him, like, thinkprogress.com. c’mon guys, do you really have to give this guy all the light he’s looking for?
January 13th, 2009 at 4:23 pmFascist much, Joe…?
January 13th, 2009 at 4:24 pmLord Jaw-Jaw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Haw-Haw
January 13th, 2009 at 4:24 pmWell, at least someone thinks that Joe’s legit.
Oh, wait. She’s a wannabe PJ Media writer too.
Scratch that.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:26 pmI am rather sorry to see our two prominent examples of people who believe it pays to be ignorant given so much prominence in the news. Let us hope that the fetishization of ignoramuses is over, at least for the present. It will return when those in power succeed in manipulating us so that only uncriticized concocted images of reality are all we have. Until then, tell this Joe Blow to put a lid on it.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:26 pmI agree with #32. The best thing for Joe the Dumber is for us to forget about him. No words, no regards, no pictures. The fact that he still has a TeeVee shelf life tells me urgent attention is needed immediately. And if the MSM continues to inform us on the daily doings of the poverty stricken, uneducated, pathetic facist we can do our part to avoid the topic at all costs.
Your mondern GOP: Joe the Dumber and Sarah the Palin. Such a deal.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:28 pmSo who died and made this idiot an expert?
Ol’ Joe is sounding a hell-of-a-lot like the same people that Sarah Palin has spent the larger part of the last two days dragging over the coals.
(And BTW, the practice Joe is advocating is pretty much the same one the old Soviet Union and the current day Russians have been using for the past 90+ years. So he’s really advocating a communist position on how the media should operate. Right on, Comrade! Remember that Sarah and that old Grumpy guy were “palling” around with Joe just a few months back when they were all running for the White House.)
January 13th, 2009 at 4:28 pmIt takes conservative gall to accuse political opponents of wanting big government, while at the same time promoting and implementing total information control.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:29 pmTired of being lied to Says:
So who died and made this idiot an expert?
January 13th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
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930 Ghazans, not that their deaths matter to Joe the Fascist…
January 13th, 2009 at 4:30 pmWatching those bloodthirsty Jews murder hundreds, maybe thousands, of men, women, and children in the Palestinian refugee camps is very depressing.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:31 pmRight Joe, and while we’re at it, Corporations should get to decide what the media says about them too. The people don’t need to know about toxic toys, or poison in the food supply. Just tell us about squirrels that can waterski, dangerous black kids, and missing blonds.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:33 pmGregor Samsa Says:
It takes conservative gall to accuse political opponents of wanting big government, while at the same time promoting and implementing total information control.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
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If we’re not careful, they’ll be able to have both. With the rise of private military contractors, it’s only a matter of time before the entire war is contracted out to the lowest bidder, with little if any input from government at all.
Information about the war will no longer be a public right, because it will all be proprietary.
If we’re not careful.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:33 pmI said it on another thread, but I’m giving “Joe the Plumber” six months before he joins the professional wrestling circuit. He’ll be a big hit. He and Hacksaw Jim Duggan can be a tag team, and fight the evil pointy-headed liberal, and the anti-american reporter who hates the troops.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:34 pmJoe is a piece of work. Good luck pimping in the name of journalism [since the book deal tanked] for fame and dough, Joe. Hope it is worth it.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:38 pmWhy is every picture of this guy shot from such an angle, that makes him looks like Mussolini in a t-shirt?
Weird.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:41 pmNevar Says:
“Joe never switched over to lead-free pipe solder.”
Just a pinch between his cheek and gum.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:41 pmJoe the Moronofascist.
I like it. Thanks, Lefty. ;o)
January 13th, 2009 at 4:43 pmI’m suprized Joe doesn’t have a bigger Iron Maiden tee shirt collection. He seems like the type.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:50 pmAfter reading what he said, I realized that he would make a good spokesman for Sarah Palin.
January 13th, 2009 at 4:51 pmWhy is anyone giving this human waste product ANY time at all ?!???
PLEASE just ignore him…..he’ll vanish in a week !
January 13th, 2009 at 4:58 pmReichwing fanaticism on display for all to see.
oh yea, Joe the Fascist pig, a big seig heil.
January 13th, 2009 at 5:03 pmJoe the Plumber/reporter/teller-of-tall-tales is about as entertaining as three drunks sharing one microphone at a karaoke bar.
January 13th, 2009 at 5:06 pmMichelle Malkin needs to realize the only reason we’re so elitist is ‘cuz they’re so stupid.
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barfly Says:
Mussolini in a t-shirt
Beautiful. That is the best description of this guy that I’ve ever heard.
January 13th, 2009 at 5:09 pm“I think the military should decide what information to give the media and then the media can release it to the public.”
You know, he does resemble Joseph Goebbels a bit — and now he even sounds like him too…
January 13th, 2009 at 5:16 pmCan someone buy this dude a shirt with buttons?
January 13th, 2009 at 5:20 pmId bet all the money in the world he admires hitler.
He’d never admitt it to the public.
January 13th, 2009 at 5:25 pmIn the picture above, it looks as though Joe “the skinhead” Plumber is growing a beard. Is he doing that in order to look more intelligent?
January 13th, 2009 at 5:29 pmI guess if this is the best mouth-piece that faux news can find to spout their anti-democratic and un-American propaganda, then that’s kind of a good thing.
January 13th, 2009 at 5:35 pmIsn’t that what the military has been doing all along? Hey Joe, it’s time for you to STFU, enjoy your 15 seconds of fame and crawl back into the world of mediocrity from which you came from. My God is it possible he remains in the news because the reichwing are serious about a St. Sarah Of Palin/Joe the not real plumber ticket in 2012??
January 13th, 2009 at 5:41 pmProof that Joe is a PysOps plant.
http://www.soc.mil/psyop/psyop_default.htm
January 13th, 2009 at 5:42 pmdbadass Says:
Can someone buy this dude a shirt with buttons?
January 13th, 2009 at 5:43 pm“““““““““““““““““““““““““““““`
In listening to this nutjob I’m beginning to wonder if indeed his shirt had buttons…peyote buttons and he’s eaten them all?
What credible reporter makes such a patently obtuse remark?
January 13th, 2009 at 5:44 pmI wish someone would slap a piece of paper on his back that reads ‘I support Hamas’ while he’s in Israel.
January 13th, 2009 at 5:47 pmIf that boob had half a brain, he’d die of embarrassment.
January 13th, 2009 at 5:48 pmthis guy is an excellent representative of the right. since they are incapable of it it seems, ill be embarrassed for them.
January 13th, 2009 at 5:50 pmSimple, you can never EVER question the military or civilan/lobbyist hybrid leadership that drives the military, as to do so is to hate “our troops”.
January 13th, 2009 at 5:52 pmNo way. He’s a moronic doofus with an ego as big as all outdoors – don’t encourage him by giving him an audience.
January 13th, 2009 at 5:59 pmThanks for the insight, “Soviet Joe”.
January 13th, 2009 at 6:10 pmF uck U Joe. Yeah 800 dead people is a big frickin deal u moron, especially considering more than half of them are civilians. I wish an Israeli tank would run over his leg.
January 13th, 2009 at 6:26 pmJoe is a good little RepubliCon stooge!
January 13th, 2009 at 6:27 pmJoe has graduated from “plumber” to Fascist.
January 13th, 2009 at 6:28 pmcaption…
January 13th, 2009 at 6:31 pm“What do I do with this thing again?”
Joe Stalin didn’t want anybody to know how many dead people there were either…
January 13th, 2009 at 6:32 pmSo then Joe WishesHeWasAPlumber doesnt believe in journalism he believes in stenographers. Yet he was hired to be a journalist. Has the entire world gone mad or is it only the rightwing?
January 13th, 2009 at 6:55 pmHas the entire world gone mad or is it only the rightwing?
Just the right wing. They never were big on reality. Or the truth.
January 13th, 2009 at 7:16 pmI’m so torn on this…more Joe…less Joe…I just can’t decide…
January 13th, 2009 at 7:49 pmIf only we could educate all the Joe the plumbers out there -maybe we wouldn’t need a military.
January 13th, 2009 at 8:18 pmOne suspects he’d also wear a sweat-stained t in the presence of the Pope. Sam the Slob; if there’s a god, he’ll get a nice fat rock thrown upside his hydrocephalic brainbucket.
Shalom.
January 13th, 2009 at 8:43 pmTP, I don’t care what this stupid red neck has to say! Beware that your site is visited by many people outside the US. Giving this imbecil turd a whole space can give the wrong impression to the International community.
Why not report on what Howard Zinn had to say about the Bush administration, etc…
Howard Zinn is an excellent example of what the american people are like.
Flush joe the plumer down the drain!
January 13th, 2009 at 9:00 pmSure why bother the public with what happens overseas in our name? We don’t need to know. And by all means, what’s all this talk about evaluating the conduct of our military to see they do not commit atrocities, or are not being badly used by the DOD or Pentagon? After all, they represent us. But that doesn’t mean it’s any of our concern what they do. I mean why should they have to account to anyone? Why everyone knows things will be OK. Not to worry.
My Word, each time this uneducated, ill equipped, mental midget opens his mouth he keeps us entertained. He is being laughed at and doesn’t seem to know it. That’s why he was hired. And I bet his bosses are laughing at him. Poor slob.
If we follow this mans logic, we should not have known that they did not get good medical or psychological care, that their food and water were tainted, that they were being electrocuted in the showers from bad wiring. That the hospitals in the US were sometimes sub-standard in their care. That their families were suffering. That the helmets were bad and contributed to massive brain injuries. We should not expect to know when they could not get decent boots replaced and their shoes were sometimes held together with duc tape. And their armored vehicles and body armor were sub standard. And some of the bases in the US were filled with mold and water damaged leaking walls. ETC.
Without reporters we would know nothing. And without reporters we would not know the death totals, even though the figures are under reported. And we would not know about the torture or when our men and women do things they should not. By all means, lets keep out the little reporting we get.
Moron!!
January 13th, 2009 at 10:07 pmJoe The Mind Plunger thinks “freedom of…” is an affront to the will of the Lord George W. Bush!
January 13th, 2009 at 10:38 pmagain, no troll support.
if joe only knew.
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they’re not laughing with you joe
they’re laughing at you.
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January 13th, 2009 at 11:23 pmThere is already a name for the form of government “Joe” supports. It is called a military dictatorship. Kim in North Korea comes to mind. Maybe he should move there. They probably could use a good plumber.
January 13th, 2009 at 11:41 pmIt is obvious to all that Joe the Plumber was born without the embarrassment gene. He’s to stupid to know when to be embarrassed.
It’s a common affliction of all politicians and pundits.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:45 amWell, reality does have a well-known liberal bias. Joe just thinks the military shouldn’t mess up his wingnut friends’ nice, patriotic fantasies with a whole lot of ugly facts.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:05 amWell, this just means that it’s just a matter of time until Obama has a bi-partisan meeting with good ole Joe.
January 14th, 2009 at 6:48 amWhy not, he seems to be validating every other right winger.
Can anyone take this sorry excuse in the back and put him down? ………………I’d think one have to have some intelligence to be called human.
January 14th, 2009 at 11:08 amFor God’s sake, don’t link to the Pajama Media site.
They are giving this tool a forum because he is bringing them huge publicity and web traffic.
Please don’t feed that beast.
January 14th, 2009 at 12:57 pmAll Roads lead to the media. everything Joe sees wrong with the world has something to do with the media. well, where the hell would “Joe the Plumber” be WITHOUT the media?
Eatin’ Goober Peas.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:14 pm