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	<title>Comments on: Joe the Plumber plunges deeper: &#8216;Military should decide what information to give the media.&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: cage free brown</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/13/joe-plumber-media-2/comment-page-2/#comment-5426224</link>
		<dc:creator>cage free brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All Roads lead to the media. everything Joe sees wrong with the world has something to do with the media. well, where the hell would &quot;Joe the Plumber&quot; be WITHOUT the media?

Eatin&#039; Goober Peas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All Roads lead to the media. everything Joe sees wrong with the world has something to do with the media. well, where the hell would &#8220;Joe the Plumber&#8221; be WITHOUT the media?</p>
<p>Eatin&#8217; Goober Peas.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5426224', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: genxlib</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/13/joe-plumber-media-2/comment-page-2/#comment-5425840</link>
		<dc:creator>genxlib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For God&#039;s sake, don&#039;t link to the Pajama Media site.  

They are giving this tool a forum because he is bringing them huge publicity and web traffic.  

Please don&#039;t feed that beast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For God&#8217;s sake, don&#8217;t link to the Pajama Media site.  </p>
<p>They are giving this tool a forum because he is bringing them huge publicity and web traffic.  </p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t feed that beast.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5425840', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mapleleaf</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/13/joe-plumber-media-2/comment-page-2/#comment-5425512</link>
		<dc:creator>mapleleaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone take this sorry excuse in the back and put him down? ..................I&#039;d think one have to have some intelligence to be called human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone take this sorry excuse in the back and put him down? &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;d think one have to have some intelligence to be called human.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5425512', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Razor_Boy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/13/joe-plumber-media-2/comment-page-2/#comment-5425290</link>
		<dc:creator>Razor_Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this just means that it&#039;s just a matter of time until Obama has a bi-partisan meeting with good ole Joe.
Why not, he seems to be validating every other right winger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this just means that it&#8217;s just a matter of time until Obama has a bi-partisan meeting with good ole Joe.<br />
Why not, he seems to be validating every other right winger.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5425290', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fool Zero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fool Zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, reality does have a well-known liberal bias. Joe just thinks the military shouldn&#039;t mess up his wingnut friends&#039; nice, patriotic fantasies with a whole lot of ugly facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, reality does have a well-known liberal bias. Joe just thinks the military shouldn&#8217;t mess up his wingnut friends&#8217; nice, patriotic fantasies with a whole lot of ugly facts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5425072', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: rcarr426</title>
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		<dc:creator>rcarr426</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is obvious to all that Joe the Plumber was born without the embarrassment gene. He&#039;s to stupid to know when to be embarrassed.

It&#039;s a common affliction of all politicians and pundits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is obvious to all that Joe the Plumber was born without the embarrassment gene. He&#8217;s to stupid to know when to be embarrassed.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a common affliction of all politicians and pundits.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5424786', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DallasNE</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/13/joe-plumber-media-2/comment-page-2/#comment-5424404</link>
		<dc:creator>DallasNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is already a name for the form of government &quot;Joe&quot; supports. It is called a military dictatorship. Kim in North Korea comes to mind. Maybe he should move there. They probably could use a good plumber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is already a name for the form of government &#8220;Joe&#8221; supports. It is called a military dictatorship. Kim in North Korea comes to mind. Maybe he should move there. They probably could use a good plumber.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5424404', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: joe cantwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe cantwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>again, no troll support.

if joe only knew.

*

they&#039;re not laughing with you joe

they&#039;re laughing &lt;em&gt;at&lt;/em&gt; you.

*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again, no troll support.</p>
<p>if joe only knew.</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>they&#8217;re not laughing with you joe</p>
<p>they&#8217;re laughing <em>at</em> you.</p>
<p>*<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5424292', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sectionop92</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/13/joe-plumber-media-2/comment-page-2/#comment-5424204</link>
		<dc:creator>sectionop92</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe The Mind Plunger thinks &quot;freedom of...&quot; is an affront to the will of the Lord George W. Bush!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe The Mind Plunger thinks &#8220;freedom of&#8230;&#8221; is an affront to the will of the Lord George W. Bush!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5424204', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure why bother the public with what happens overseas in our name?  We don&#039;t need to know. And by all means, what&#039;s all this talk about evaluating the conduct of our military to see they do not commit atrocities, or are not being  badly used by the DOD or Pentagon?  After all, they represent us. But that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s any of our concern what they do. I mean why should they have to account to anyone? Why everyone knows things will be OK. Not to worry.

My Word, each time this uneducated, ill equipped, mental midget opens his mouth he keeps us entertained. He is being laughed at and doesn&#039;t seem to know it. That&#039;s why he was hired. And I bet his bosses are laughing at him. Poor slob.

If we follow this mans logic, we should not have known that they did not get good medical or psychological care, that their food and water were tainted, that they were being electrocuted in the showers from bad wiring. That the hospitals in the US were sometimes sub-standard in their care. That their families were suffering. That the helmets were bad and contributed to massive brain injuries. We should not expect to know when they could not get decent boots replaced and their shoes were sometimes held together with duc tape. And their armored vehicles and body armor were sub standard. And some of the bases in the US were filled with mold and water damaged leaking walls. ETC.

Without reporters we would know nothing. And without reporters we would not know the death totals, even though the figures are under reported. And we would not know about the torture or when our men and women do things they should not. By all means, lets keep out the little reporting we get.

Moron!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure why bother the public with what happens overseas in our name?  We don&#8217;t need to know. And by all means, what&#8217;s all this talk about evaluating the conduct of our military to see they do not commit atrocities, or are not being  badly used by the DOD or Pentagon?  After all, they represent us. But that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s any of our concern what they do. I mean why should they have to account to anyone? Why everyone knows things will be OK. Not to worry.</p>
<p>My Word, each time this uneducated, ill equipped, mental midget opens his mouth he keeps us entertained. He is being laughed at and doesn&#8217;t seem to know it. That&#8217;s why he was hired. And I bet his bosses are laughing at him. Poor slob.</p>
<p>If we follow this mans logic, we should not have known that they did not get good medical or psychological care, that their food and water were tainted, that they were being electrocuted in the showers from bad wiring. That the hospitals in the US were sometimes sub-standard in their care. That their families were suffering. That the helmets were bad and contributed to massive brain injuries. We should not expect to know when they could not get decent boots replaced and their shoes were sometimes held together with duc tape. And their armored vehicles and body armor were sub standard. And some of the bases in the US were filled with mold and water damaged leaking walls. ETC.</p>
<p>Without reporters we would know nothing. And without reporters we would not know the death totals, even though the figures are under reported. And we would not know about the torture or when our men and women do things they should not. By all means, lets keep out the little reporting we get.</p>
<p>Moron!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5424150', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sacopenapa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/13/joe-plumber-media-2/comment-page-2/#comment-5424056</link>
		<dc:creator>sacopenapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TP, I don&#039;t care what this stupid red neck has to say! Beware that your site is visited by many people outside the US. Giving this imbecil turd a whole space can give the wrong impression to the International community.

Why not report on what Howard Zinn had to say about the Bush administration, etc...

Howard Zinn is an excellent example of what the american people are like.

Flush &lt;em&gt;joe the plumer&lt;/em&gt; down the drain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TP, I don&#8217;t care what this stupid red neck has to say! Beware that your site is visited by many people outside the US. Giving this imbecil turd a whole space can give the wrong impression to the International community.</p>
<p>Why not report on what Howard Zinn had to say about the Bush administration, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Howard Zinn is an excellent example of what the american people are like.</p>
<p>Flush <em>joe the plumer</em> down the drain!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5424056', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One suspects he&#039;d also wear a sweat-stained t in the presence of the Pope.  Sam the Slob; if there&#039;s a god, he&#039;ll get a nice fat rock thrown upside his hydrocephalic brainbucket.

Shalom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One suspects he&#8217;d also wear a sweat-stained t in the presence of the Pope.  Sam the Slob; if there&#8217;s a god, he&#8217;ll get a nice fat rock thrown upside his hydrocephalic brainbucket.</p>
<p>Shalom.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5424020', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ape-Man</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/13/joe-plumber-media-2/comment-page-2/#comment-5423988</link>
		<dc:creator>Ape-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only we could educate all the Joe the plumbers out there -maybe we wouldn&#039;t need a military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only we could educate all the Joe the plumbers out there -maybe we wouldn&#8217;t need a military.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5423988', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: thomthum</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomthum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so torn on this...more Joe...less Joe...I just can&#039;t decide...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so torn on this&#8230;more Joe&#8230;less Joe&#8230;I just can&#8217;t decide&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5423946', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne A. Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne A. Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Has the entire world gone mad or is it only the rightwing?&lt;/em&gt;

Just the right wing.  They never were big on reality.  Or the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Has the entire world gone mad or is it only the rightwing?</em></p>
<p>Just the right wing.  They never were big on reality.  Or the truth.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5423876', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So then Joe WishesHeWasAPlumber doesnt believe in journalism he believes in stenographers. Yet he was hired to be a journalist. Has the entire world gone mad or is it only the rightwing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then Joe WishesHeWasAPlumber doesnt believe in journalism he believes in stenographers. Yet he was hired to be a journalist. Has the entire world gone mad or is it only the rightwing?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5423826', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Nevar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nevar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Stalin didn&#039;t want anybody to know how many dead people there were either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Stalin didn&#8217;t want anybody to know how many dead people there were either&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5423780', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Nevar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nevar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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 &quot;What do I do with this thing again?&quot;</description>
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 &#8220;What do I do with this thing again?&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5423774', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Hawkeye</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/13/joe-plumber-media-2/comment-page-2/#comment-5423772</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawkeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe has graduated from &quot;plumber&quot; to Fascist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe has graduated from &#8220;plumber&#8221; to Fascist.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5423772', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbearton</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/13/joe-plumber-media-2/comment-page-2/#comment-5423766</link>
		<dc:creator>dbearton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe is a good little RepubliCon stooge!</description>
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