“The United Nations General Assembly enacted a Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment in 1984;

The US accepted with a number of caveats, including the following:

“That with reference to article 1, the United States understands that, in order to constitute torture, an act must be specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering and that mental pain or suffering refers to prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from (1) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering; (2) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality; (3) the threat of imminent death; or (4) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality.’

Do any of the methods used by the CIA, or indeed by the interrogators at Guantanamo exceed the criteria listed above.

Give it up Timmeh. You are one of the stupidest people on the Planet. If its classified YOU dont know what it is either. You REALLY ignorant wingnuts keep trying to predict the future but you SUCK at it. You keep at it anyway only showing just how stupid you really are. You need to stop. You are giving morons a bad name.

Why is it that the new President will have a classified section in the Army Field Manual that allows HIM ALONE to authorize “enhanced interrogation” methods, hmmmm?

Here, I’ll explain it for you:

Our new President is no fool, he’s a very smart guy. He realizes that he’s already won the election and now will act like a President, not a candidate that has to get elected. He understands that you NEVER take any option off the table when it comes to protecting the citizens of the country you are sworn to protect!

Therefore, all you fools on the left can give up your little crack pipe dreams of having President Bush or any member of his administration prosecuted for using the SAME techniques that the new President will reserve to himself!

I love it!

WHAT IF. The only way to get the terrorist to talk about his ticking time bomb is to rape his six year old daughter right in front of him then flay him with a fairly dull knife? Here is the knife. Are YOU ready to go for it? A

Nothing but evil below the Mason Dixon line anyway.

Bunch of fascist war-mongering racists.

Chocolate Jesus Says:

someone comitting an illegal act to stop a ticking timebomb? sounds like a perfect example of a very legimate presidential pardon or act of jury nullification..

I know it has been beaten to death, but how about this one, the brother/mother/son/daughter/cousin…etc… of the person tortured is so appalled that their loved one was tortured creates a bigger, better, more destructive bomb….mmmm and doesn’t get caught.

You can come up with hypothetical after hypothetical to inflict more casualties than the hypothetical before, the point is this:

After all is said and done, you are left with the decision, “is this moral or not?” if not, you don’t do it. You can not make your decision based on a fantasy you can come up with to justify it.

Fascists love torture. It is fun for them and it is part of the hate thang. Anything to justify revenge with these evil people.

1/3 of any human population is comprised of folks that have no compassion for thier fellow humans.

These same folks kept the Mid-evil period going for years on end.

These same folks support this war criminal administration.

Hague 2009!!!

“What if you were stranded on a desert island with another man, and forced to have sex?

There is no other option.”

Assume that letting Osama bin Laden walk free would reduce terrorist attacks all over the world in 50%. Would the Republicans accept such a deal in order to save hundreds of lives?

See, I can come up with more plausible scenarios than Cornyn can.

Holder: “That’s not the only way to get information.”

Cornyn: “Assume it is. Heh heh.”

If a Democratic administration had been caught using waterboarding, there would be no phoney debate about whether it was torture, whether it was legal, or whether it was effective.

I am so sick of this B.S. TICKING TIME BOMB SCENARIO!
There are only two ways to know for certain there IS a ticking time bomb.
1. You were actually there when it was set, or
2. Your the one who set it.

Lets face it, the Republicans think Jack Bauer has kept us all safe from terrorist attacks since 9/11.

This is the same group that believes that some god has exclusive residence in the sky and keeps record of everything we do in our lives.

It’s also the same group that has its leading “news” figures spewing garbage that is so out there with UFO abduction tales and hyper-obsessive grassy knoll conspiracy theories, that if only the millions of people who take it as “serious news” would fact check, we’d improve the overall IQ percentage of this nation.

RTWL: “Sen. Cornyn, what if the only thing standing between you and deaths of tens of thousands of Americans was your willingness to suck a big terrorist cock?”

CORNYN: I think your hypothetical assumes a premise that I’m not willing to concede.

RTWL: I know you don’t like my hypothetical.

CORNYN: No, the hypothetical’s fine; the premise that underlies it I’m not willing to accept, and that is that sucking a big terrorist cock is the only way that I could get that information from those people.

RTWL: Assume that it was.