Your federal tax dollars are going to abstinence-only clowns.
Your federal tax dollars are going to abstinence-only clowns.
Amplify Your Voice has highlighted “the latest in the long, funny and sad line of abstinence-only sex education heroes.” This new figure is Derek Dye, a “comedic juggler” who uses his skills to teach middle school children abstinence-only policies. Dye tells children lines such as, “Having sex before you are married is just like juggling machetes!” and “Sex before marriage will destroy all of your life’s dreams!” As Amplify Your Voice explains:
Thanks to George W. Bush and a complicit Congress, we currently spend $1.5 billion a year to fund abstinence-only until marriage sex education in our public schools. And yes, that money goes to people like Derek Dye, as he is employed by the Elizabeth New Life Center that received a $800,000 CBAE grant in 2007 to promote abstinence until marriage. His qualifications? A “Bachelor of Fun Arts” from Barnum Bailey Clown College, and an abstinence educator certification that can be purchased for $50.
Watch Dye’s act here:
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“Having sex before you are married is just like juggling machetes!”
You have to practice to get good at it.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pmCan’t sleep, clowns will eat me…
But not before marriage.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:36 pmHey, I was in theater in high school. And I own a chain saw. Much cooler than machetes.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:36 pmJuggling is certainly one way to guarantee you don’t have sex before marriage… see also, attending clown college…
January 16th, 2009 at 2:38 pmWhat type of dipshit thinks middle school kids will pay attention to a friggin’ clown???
For crissakes, 13 year olds are smarter than a Conservatives.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:39 pmmeanwhile, in scandinavia, they openly discuss sex and sex education, and have some of the lowest, if not the lowest, teen birth rates….
January 16th, 2009 at 2:39 pm“Sex before marriage will destroy all of your life’s dreams!”
Can I go back to the 70’s now that I’ve learned this important fact?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:41 pmRaptureReady, I’m terribly sorry to disappoint you but I believe in God, not you. And my God loves my humor, one of his gifts to me which, by the way, I use as a Gospel Clown.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:42 pmRR. I certainly hope you continue to abstain…
But I agree with you, pregnancy and stds can delay a young person’s hopes and dreams. Therefore, they should know how to prevent pregnancies should they choose to become sexually active as well. Why not give them all the tools in the toolbox instead of just the duct tape?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:43 pmPost proof of the high STD rate in Scandinavia, Daryll.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:43 pmOh, please shoot me now. The stupid is really starting to hurt.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:45 pmGod doesn’t protect us from HIV, Daryll. If God were that powerful, he wouldn’t let children die of starvation or horrible diseases.
Now tell me how those children “deserve” what they get. Go ahead.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:45 pmYou mean our tax dollars are going to Daryll?
I mean, he is a clown of the self-professed, abstinence-only crowd after all…
January 16th, 2009 at 2:45 pmLet’s look at that statement a bit differently RaptureReady. If it wasn’t for God, there would be no STD’s.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:45 pmRaptureReady Says:
LibertyLover Says:
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RR. I certainly hope you continue to abstain
I’m married, therefore I am having sex the proper way.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Daryll is having butt sekks every night.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:46 pmRaptureReady Says:
I’m married, therefore I am having sex the proper way.
What, with your secretary?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:47 pmClowns are creepy.
So is the don’t ask, don’t teach strategery.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:47 pmMerrige is THE END of a good and healthy sexual life!
January 16th, 2009 at 2:47 pmThis is so scary and surreal! Derek Dye, an over wait and unatractive thing who probably can’t get any! Brainwashing kids with TAX payers money! GOD HELP AMERICA and GOD HELP THESE KIDS!
January 16th, 2009 at 2:48 pmRaptureReady says: If I did it, they can do it, too.
DNFP Says: What type of dipshit thinks middle school kids will pay attention to a friggin’ clown???
Actually, middle school kids do pay attention to clowns. They will not, however, pay attention to self-righteous lecturers like Daryll.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:48 pmIf it wasn’t for God, you could have … had a child while you were young and foolish
So he gets no credit for my first child which was out of wedlock then?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:49 pmI’m married, therefore I am having sex the proper way.
Male prostitutes from Central America?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:49 pmWhy is it RaptureReady shows up in all the threads that have something to do with sex? What is the cost of on-line porn subscription these days? Maybe if we all chip in and buy a subscription for him he can get his fix without misquoting scripture and making statements as if he knew what God has in mind and bothering all of us here. His entertainment value has long since past.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:50 pmWell the clown must be doing something right… as Ohio has jumped from #7 to #6 in Gonnorhea infection rates between 2004 an 2006… oh, wait… that’s bad.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:50 pmhttp://www.avert.org/stdstatisticusa.htm
http://www.simplexlove.com/std-statistics/
RaptureReady Says:
God protects us from many diseases. During your lifetime, how many times has he healed you or prevented significant harm from happening to you (I can guarantee you countless times).
January 16th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Never. My body heals itself, and I protect myself from harm being done to me. If there is a God, he gave me responsibility of caring for myself.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:51 pmIt is biblically wrong for man to have rectum sex with a woman
Then he’s fine with your “wife’s” strap-on?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:51 pmRaptureReady Says:
It is biblically wrong for man to have rectum sex with a woman. It is also biblically wrong for women to give men oral sex.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
You want it BAD.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:52 pmIt is biblically wrong for man to have rectum sex with a woman. It is also biblically wrong for women to give men oral sex.
Oh, now, this just screams for the Biblical citation!
January 16th, 2009 at 2:52 pmDo Clowns bread??? I hope not!
January 16th, 2009 at 2:52 pmRaptureReady Says:
God protects us from many diseases. During your lifetime, how many times has he healed you or prevented significant harm from happening to you (I can guarantee you countless times).
So He can be blamed for the times we get sick or receive significant harm. Got it.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:53 pmYou made a mistake,
Hah! The gift of life is a mistake?
Blaspheme much fcukwit?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:53 pmSorry my english again…
Do Clowns breed? I hope not!
(English is a second laguage to me!)
January 16th, 2009 at 2:54 pmAre “abstinence-only clowns” like the Sexual-harassment Panda?”
January 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pmRaptureReady Says: It is biblically wrong for man to have rectum sex with a woman. It is also biblically wrong for women to give men oral sex.
Just to show us you are up on your scripture, what EXACT chapter and verse SPECIFICALLY states your assertion?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pmNo. I thank good sex education in my public school in Texas that taught me about how babies are made, how STDs are transmitted and how to use a condom.
You Crazed Christians weren’t always so obnoxious and intrusive. Why now?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pm29#
LiberalVoter Says:
Why is it RaptureReady shows up in all the threads that have something to do with sex? What is the cost of on-line porn subscription these days? Maybe if we all chip in and buy a subscription for him he can get his fix without misquoting scripture and making statements as if he knew what God has in mind and bothering all of us here. His entertainment value has long since past.
He is the type who likes to watch!
January 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pm… besides, I’m two-for-two with “sex for procreation”.
Never made any mistakes, no bunts, no fowls, not even one strike, only hit home runs twice then retired.
Now we just fcuk for fun.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pmRaptureReady Says:
No, I follow the word of God. I pray that the woman that has oral sex receives lockjaw. There is no good in breaking God’s laws.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
So you pray for physical harm to come to others. You better go “shake off Satan,” Daryll.
Don’t forget the lotion…
January 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pmRaptureReady,
You should really stop coming here to show the world what a friggin moron you are.
You know, you will go to hell for being a masochist.
Now STFU and let real adults converse.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pmI wouldn’t mind them wanting to encourage kids to abstain from sex before marriage, but I wish they wouldn’t LIE about it so much. Condoms are WAY more effective than they let on.
And if you think God wants you to abstain, then why did He invent STDs in the first place? Even married people can get them from their partners who aren’t faithful. (It happened to my neighbor.) So, waiting until marriage to have sex is no guarantee that you won’t catch something anyway. Therefore, that bit of logic falls completely apart.
Now, do they have any FACTS to use in their argument, or is it all God-based (and, therefore, theoretical)?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:59 pmRaptureReady
It is biblically wrong for man to have rectum sex with a woman. It is also biblically wrong for women to give men oral sex.
What about men having ‘rectum and oral’ sex with another man?
RaptureReady=NO FUN ZONE!
January 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pmI hope I’ll burn in hell! At leats the devil seems more fair than right-wing Jesus who wants me to be placed in a asexual place surrounded in a asexual ‘angels’.
I prefer the hot hell with orgies galour! For eternity!
RR,
Yes, give us chapter and verse. Where in the Bible does it say oral sex is bad? I do have a copy, so I can verify whatever you say.
BTW, if you’re not Christian, then is it okay to have pre-marital sex? After all, Christian rules are for Chrisitan people.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pmRaptureReady Says:
Daily, he protects you and his angels watch over you.
So, is the angels that give diseases then? Or is it Him?
January 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pmWayne A. Schneider says: Now, do they have any FACTS to use in their argument, or is it all God-based (and, therefore, theoretical)?
or fantasy?
January 16th, 2009 at 3:02 pmWrong, RR,
My neighbor got herpes from her philadering husband. She did nothing wrong, so why was she being “punished”?
So far, your “logic” is quite assailable.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:03 pmGov. Palin what do they call women who support abstinence only programs for their daughters?
A. GRANDMOTHERS, that’s right, GRANDMA Sarah . . lol
January 16th, 2009 at 3:05 pmStill waiting for your source material, RR. I’ll check after I get back from taking my mother to the store. (Aren’t I a nice guy?)
January 16th, 2009 at 3:05 pmRaptureReady says: RaptureReady Says: It is biblically wrong for man to have rectum sex with a woman. It is also biblically wrong for women to give men oral sex.
So, RR, parsing this statement it is OK more more than one man to have rectum sec with more than one woman and OK for one woman to give one man oral sex?
Is saying f uck you considered oral sex?
January 16th, 2009 at 3:07 pmThat doesn’t support your argument, RR. SHE did nothing wrong, yet SHE got punished. Why did the God you love and worship punish her?
January 16th, 2009 at 3:07 pmRaptureSex
I truly do not believe that you critically read your question. STD’s are consequences for sexual immorality.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Watching that nimrod makes me want to go out and have lots of unprotected sex with young girls…
January 16th, 2009 at 3:07 pmJust like RupturedRectum this clown is dreaming if he thinks he’s gonna get laid.
How’s your lying god doing RR, still think Phuckabee is gonna be President elect?
We’ve been missing you, have you been spending alot of time in your special “Flog out the Gay” Closet?
January 16th, 2009 at 3:08 pmLuis M Says:
RaptureReady Says:
Daily, he protects you and his angels watch over you.
So, is the angels that give diseases then? Or is it Him?
Luis asks a very good question for our RR. If we have all these angels and stuff watching over us, why do people still brutally murder each day? Why do we hear stories of small, innocent children being abused and hurt? Why do folks like George W Bush seem to be allowed by God to inflame the planet? And I am sure God realizes that we are ruining the planet with our fossil fuels and overcrowding, but still he doesn’t change our direction.
It seems RR uses God as a way to hide RR’s own inability to convince us with science, not dogmatic tradition.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:08 pmA “Bachelor of Fun Arts” from Barnum Bailey Clown College
Now, maybe you can tell me Daryll… is the “BFA” a terminal degree or can you pursue a Masters in Fun Arts?
And if so, shouldn’t that be a prerequisite before receiving federal funding for clown based sexual education?
I mean, these are our children after all… we don’t want just any clown off the street telling them not to have sex. Wait- actually, that may be just as effective…
January 16th, 2009 at 3:10 pmRaptureReady Says:
Daily, he protects you and his angels watch over you.
I want to smoke what RaptureSex is smoking!!!! I want to see the angles too! ‘coff! Coff!’
January 16th, 2009 at 3:14 pmI wish that Daryll would contract a deadly terminal desease and DIE muthaphucka DIE.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:14 pmIf that happened, I would not think twice about beleiving there is a gOD. LOL
I’m out of this thread… to much ignorance coming from a fanatic extremist christian.
RaptureReady… GET A DILDO!
January 16th, 2009 at 3:15 pmSo, how many Bush administration officials graduated from clown college? At least this guy went to a good one, Barnum & Bailey.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:16 pmRaptureready is proof that abortion isn’t murder. He survived.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:17 pmRapturedReason
STD’s are consequences of bacterias and viruses, which are contracted by sexual immorality (Fixed it).
Marriged and Christians couples are not imuned to STD’s and neither to sexual desires unrelated to their marriges.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:19 pmIt is times like this I am convinced that the Christian God I believe in and the Christian god Daryl believes in are two separate beings.
On a side note, I would rather be Bhuddist then give up oral sex.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:21 pmWhatsa matter Daryll? Is the little Daryll, in your pants, raw from all the abuse while watching video of bleeding Palestinian children? Go back to your disgusting death cult and take this message with you:
I curse you.
I curse you in the name of every person unjustly slain.
I curse you in the name of every maimed child.
I curse you in the name of every mother who has watched her children die.
I curse you in the name of every orphaned child yet unborn.
I curse you in the name of every god and demon who has ever plagued mankind.
I curse you to be unforgiven by your savior, who preached forgiveness above all else.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pmI curse you to the pain you wish upon those better than your miserable self.
I curse you to suffer the knowledge of your own, utter, wretchedness.
I curse you to feel the hate you project on others.
I curse you to die in agony: alone, unloved, forgotten.
I curse you to be buried in the filth of a thousand stables.
I curse you to the worst Hell you can conceive.
RaptureReady Says:
Congratulations you have surpassed your previous record for inane stupidity and hateful ignorance. You are truly a clueless ignorant piece of garbage. By the way it isnt UP to you who is condemned to Hell why do so many of the monumentally stupid wingnuts like you think you are God?
January 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pmRaptureReady Says:
“I’m married, therefore I am having sex the proper way.”
Yeah and in your case it’s called clown sex.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pmRR aka “Spanky the Clown”
RaptureReady Says:
“It is biblically wrong for man to have rectum sex with a woman. It is also biblically wrong for women to give men oral sex.”
I’m screwed (pardon the pun).
Rectum? Damn near killtum!
January 16th, 2009 at 3:27 pmRaptureReady Says:
Abstaining from sex is much easier for an ignorant, repellant, and socially unacceptable moron like YOU. So maybe that isnt the right yardstick to use.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:27 pmRaptureReady Says:
LibertyLover Says:
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RR. I certainly hope you continue to abstain
I’m married, therefore I am having sex the proper way.
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Thats all fine, I think it is hard to get STDs from rubber pretend women anyway. I cant believe there is a REAL woman anywhere in existance that could stomach sharing a bed with you.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:28 pmcan’t sleep, clown will screw me…
January 16th, 2009 at 3:28 pmAnd the Lord said: “I say unto you, Adam, do not put your pee-pee in her pooh-pooh, and Eve, do not place your mouth upon his pee-pee.” It’s in Genesis somewheres.
But the Lord also said “Be fruitful and multiply” so the prophets took several wives. That’s why a true Christian should have multiple partners and screw like there’s no tomorrow.
It’s all in the interpretation and the passages you cherry pick. Ask Better Bowers or Jesus General, they know what I’m talking about.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:28 pmRaptureReady Says:
Keep it up, and you will burn in hell.
Everybody knows you only go to hell for telling people they’re going to hell, silly.
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RaptureReady Says:
If I did it, they can do it, too.
I hate to inform you of this, but your virginity is not due to any great act of willpower on your part.
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RaptureReady Says:
It is biblically wrong for man to have rectum sex with a woman. It is also biblically wrong for women to give men oral sex.
Chapter and verse, please. Let’s do this thing.
Actually, before you bring citations, please redact any that just exhort people not to be “sexually immoral.” I need ones that specify precisely what physical acts constitute sexual immorality.
I hereby submit that “sexual immorality” is defined as telling other people they can’t have sex, making them feel guilty about their own natural urges, and preventing them from finding out about ways to mitigate the consequences. I have exactly as much biblical support for this notion as you have for yours.
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RaptureReady Says:
I pray that the woman that has oral sex receives lockjaw.
You pray for harm to come to people. That’s pretty blasphemous. As a matter of fact, that is precisely the original meaning of “cursing,” or “taking the Lord’s name in vain.”
Punchline: most of the time, I’m praying she doesn’t.
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RaptureReady Says:
Daily, he protects you and his angels watch over you.
But people who do get sick weren’t protected. Why? Are you asserting that everyone who has caught a disease has offended God?
I’m going to start thinking of condoms as little angels in a wrapper…
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RaptureReady Says:
When you are intentionally breaking God’s laws on sex, yes.
What about God’s laws on shellfish? Do you pray that everyone who eats at Red Lobster get salmonella?
January 16th, 2009 at 3:28 pmSex and violence. Proper sex (meaning in the dark, blankets at the chin and hope you make a good little Christian from this horrible [Oh God, I'm coming] act.) Is it any wonder these pathetic morons think torture is more fun?
When you take the most important act two human beings can indulge in and make it evil and dirty, anything is possible.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:30 pmWhatever they serve at Red Lobster can’t be shellfish. There is no way you can offer 37 shrimp cooked 14 different ways fro 6.99 if you are buying real product…
January 16th, 2009 at 3:30 pmRaptureReady Says: 42
You are an ignorant hatefilled PUNK. You are a pox on the world and a stench in the nostrils of decent people. You must be left over from the primordial ooze of the first perfect stupid. The world will be a much better place when you have an epiphany and understand how hateful, ignorant and churlish you are. I would tell you not to breed to save the Planet from the pollution of your disgusting stupidity and lack of a human heart but since you cannot really reproduce with rubber that will most likely take care of itself. Please spare people the torture of being in the presence of your putried essence and become a monk that contemplates, well anything, far away from decent people.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:34 pmJust curious, Darryll – when does the “sin” start with unmarried sex?
First base? Second base?
And wishing lockjaw on people just isn’t nice, boy. Shame on you.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:37 pmRaptureReady Says:
I pray that the woman that has oral sex receives lockjaw.
But Jesus says:
“What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him ‘unclean,’ but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him ‘unclean.’”
-Matthew 15:11
Take care Daryll… you might get what you wish for.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:37 pmKrazny Says:
It is times like this I am convinced that the Christian God I believe in and the Christian god Daryl believes in are two separate beings.
Modern Christian fundamentalism is absolutely nothing like Christianity whatsoever. The fundamentalist “tent revival” movement in early 20th C. America basically amounts to Augustine + Calvin – Jesus. It then started collecting a lot more crazy stuff that has no reasonable theological or biblical support whatsoever.
Its brainwashed victims like RR now use extremely out-of-context scraps from the bible to replace their own cognitive processes, in support of what is essentially a sex cult. Everything has to do with placing and easing restrictions on sex. The victims replace their own cognitive reasoning functions with out-of-context scraps and phrases from the bible, dissasociating their neural network from independent function and thinking only in terms of these memorized phrases. Logic and other biblical reasoning is ignored because their brains no longer process such language.
Now it stands as the greatest ideological perversion the world has ever seen, far worse in its breadth and scope than Stalin turning Lenin’s system of fairness and freedom into a tyrannical nightmare. If I believed in an Antichrist, then he came and went some time ago and this is his prime accomplishment.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:40 pmThis must stop. Is anyone doing a campaign to Obama to demand the end of abstinence only education? There is tons of proof it doesn’t work at all.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:46 pmVery true, ElBruce. However, you forgot to include Ronnie Raygun’s efforts in the late 20th century. Between humping Fallwell’s leg on national television and the emptying of mental hospitals he legitimized the disease of fundamentalism.
I miss the days when those who claimed to “hear the voice of God” were committed.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:47 pmI’m just thinking here of the various factors that influence the average middle-schooler’s outlook. If he watches television, he is taught that getting laid is a good thing, it’s a worthy goal, and that if he doesn’t get laid he’s a loser. Moreover, the teevee helpfully tells him that if he drinks the right beer, wears the right clothes, drives the right car, uses the right toothpaste, and buys jewelry for females at the right store, he increases his chances of getting laid and avoiding the dreaded “loser” label. There are even ads for pills he can take so he can have sex even if he can’t get it up, so there’s no excuse for not getting any.
Now, this same middle-schooler is watching a clown tell him that sex is bad. It will slice him to pieces like machetes, it will destroy all his dreams and his entire life, etc. — until he gets married, when magically it will become a good thing. Yeah. Right.
Both forces (the teevee and the abstinence clown) are, IMO, equally harmful — because both lie. It’s better to be honest with a 12-year old. Once he discovers he’s being lied to, that source’s credibility is shot (just like when he discovered that certain activities didn’t really make one go blind).
First — there are many good reasons to abstain from sex. And choosing not to have sex certainly doesn’t make one a social outcast. The world as Madison Avenue presents it is too often a disgusting perversion of reality.
Second — the aphorisms coming from this clown are as untruthful as the one about going blind. Having sex is nothing like juggling machetes (unless, of course, you’re trying to have sex WITH a machete, which can be painful and life-altering). Having sex is no guarantee that your life and your dreams will be destroyed, although those who choose to have sex and are irresponsible about it CAN have their lives changed in ways they didn’t count on. So what happens when a teen has sex and nothing especially bad happens? He’s going to realize that everything he has heard about abstinence is a pile of crap, and he’ll close his mind to even honest and sensible things about it.
The clown (why does it have to be a clown?) would do better by explaining WHY abstinence is a good idea instead of just doing a general fearmongering act.
We owe it to our children to be honest with them. Here’s a sample:
1. If you choose to have sex, you will be responsible for anything that results from it — including pregnancy and STDs. Therefore, a good way to determine if you’re ready for sex might be if you’re ready for that kind of responsibility.
2. If you can’t say “no” to sex, a condom significantly lessens your chances of pregnancy or STD transmittal. No, they aren’t perfect. But the failure rate is very low if used properly.
3. Abstinence has the greatest effectiveness at preventing pregnancy and STDs. There are other methods with high effectiveness rates that will prevent pregnancy. The only other method that’s effective in stopping the transmission of STDs is a condom used properly.
4. Pregnancy WILL alter your life. It should be taken seriously. There’s no “fun” or “easy” way to deal with an unwanted pregnancy.
5. STDs should also be taken seriously. Some are curable, some are incurable, and some are incurable with a high fatality rate. Take note.
6. Going out and having sex with somebody will NOT make you any more like a hot teevee stud than you were before. Advertisers just want to sell you stuff, and they don’t particularly care how they do it as long as they can get your attention.
7. Sex is NOT a bad thing. It’s actually a good thing. But, like most other things, it should be done responsibly and only you’re ready for it. The same can be said for marriage, child rearing, driving a car, etc.
Factual information can go a long way. There really is no need to lie.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:53 pmDudes and dudettes, who WOULD have sex with a clown? This is obviously an issue of them not even getting a CHANCE to turn it down ;)
January 16th, 2009 at 3:57 pmHas anyone seen bit. I am getting a little concerned about em.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:57 pmRaptureReady Says: Keep it up, and you will burn in hell.
So who died and left you to be god to make such a decision? If you knew anything about scripture you should know you are not the one making that call. Better get that delusion under control.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:58 pmdbadass Says: Has anyone seen bit. I am getting a little concerned about em.
bit is out doing field research on oral and anal sex.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:59 pmRaptureReady Says:
LibertyLover Says:
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RR. I certainly hope you continue to abstain
I’m married, therefore I am having sex the proper way.
LOL The “proper way”! What’s that Daryll? In the dark? Man on top? No talking? Come on man I want to know the proper way. What verse is it in. I missed that verse when I was a kid with a boner.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:04 pmbit is out doing field research on oral and anal sex….with himself?
January 16th, 2009 at 4:06 pmLLaP,
January 16th, 2009 at 4:09 pmDaryll learned from his Priest. It is one of those “un-written” scriptures dontcha know.
Rapture Ready and his fellow abstinence-only advocates operate on the straw man that we liberals want teenagers to be promiscuous, thus suggesting a false dichotomy here. We have to have abstinence-only education or else teenagers will go wild screwing everything in sight. Look, no one is suggesting that teenagers go wild and have unprotected sex in BACCHANALIA AFTER BACCHANALIA of wanton lust…but if you didn’t know any better, you would think that we were. There is a difference in educating students on how to have safe and protected sex and promoting promiscuity.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pmCurse the luck! I missed another Daryll thread.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:22 pmHis qualifications? A “Bachelor of Fun Arts” from Barnum Bailey Clown College, and an abstinence educator certification that can be purchased for $50.
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Wow… Princeton’s standards have really fallen, haven’t they…
January 16th, 2009 at 4:23 pmI think it was Herbie Hancock who said something to the effect that he grew up in a small town where he was taught that sex is filthy and nasty, and that you must save it for someone you love.
Do they think teenagers wouldn’t know how to have sex without education? People had sex before they figured out from whence babies came. We’re animals.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:29 pmYou give the sick freak too much credit, ucsbclassics53. What frightens Daryll, and his disgusting ilk, is that they think their precious God will kill them if they don’t hate others enough. The only miserable soul they care about is their own.
After all, the Buy-bull is full of stories where innocents are slain, and presumably sent to Hell, because of guilt by association. The Darylls of the world are really afraid that they will go to Hell for the “sins” of others.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:30 pmRaptureReady Says
January 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
I pray that the woman that has oral sex receives lockjaw.
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I see. And are you praying similarly on behalf of the man on the other end of this oral sex? And what terrible calamity do you wish upon him?
Or are women the only ones who deserve your condemnation here?
BTW — lockjaw isn’t normally transmitted through sex, oral or otherwise. Besides, most of us are immunized against tetanus. Is there some reason you chose that particular affliction?
January 16th, 2009 at 4:42 pmDaryll says: No, I follow the word of God. I pray that the woman that has oral sex receives lockjaw. There is no good in breaking God’s laws.
You wish someone to die a painful death because of their sexual behavior and you call yourself a Christian? I think your self righteousness is simply horrible, but I do not wish any physical harm to come to you. As for any spiritual consequences, that I leave to God.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:43 pmThis is my brain on drugs… What a waste of tax payer money! Only Curious George and his mindless army of follower’s could believe that this would capture a young person’s attention. I guess this is what the 23%er’s look like…
January 16th, 2009 at 4:47 pmNot having sex before marriage is like:
Buying a car without driving it.
Driving a car without training and a license.
Care to add?
January 16th, 2009 at 4:50 pmHaving sex before marriage is like having sex before marriage.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:06 pmI am very tired of Darryl shitting on every thread he sees fit. Too bad TP has only banned him once.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:10 pmFirst, Molly may I say you are the absolutely most attractive person on this planet? Male, female, I do not care. Your #97 post is one of the best I have ever read.
And 2nd, abstinence is a great idea. Lets tell people that the one thing they can prove to themselves without any external help is a lie, ie sex can feel good and then trust them to have any ability to think for themselves, yup, life is good.
Anybody ever heard of George Orwell?
January 16th, 2009 at 5:11 pmNot having sex before marriage is like:
How the hell would I know? Can we just talk about having sex before marriage? Than I can atleast feel comfortable in the discussion
January 16th, 2009 at 5:17 pmThe whole idea is funny. I simply resent my tax money going to fund this idiot. He must laugh all the way to the bank.
And it hasn’t worked. The average time elapsing for the pledges are six months. And they also tell these kids that condoms do not work and they cause disease. The rate of pregnancy after the pledge wears off is fairly high, because they know nothing about preventing it. The religious organizations that have these rallies and give rings as a visual pledge have done more harm then good. Because they are based on lies.
If someone wants to wait till marriage to have sex, that’s great. But these kids should at least have all the information needed to prevent unwanted pregnancy. Someone tell me the upside about an unwanted pregnancy. Understanding sexuality is important.
No marriage, forced marriage, lifelong responsibility, immaturity, loss of education. How many of the kids understand that they will lose the time to have fun, no getting to know someone else they may be more suited to, sick child means sometimes staying up all night for days, no parties with friends. The kids will not be able to drop everything and go out, financial responsibility.
They don’t stress any of those things. I worked in a clinic and I have lost count of the girls that told me, they did not think you could get pregnant the first time.
I feel sorry for the dumb kids that buy into one method only.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:21 pmand in case any of the reichwingers are looking, the divorce rate is over 50%. So much for their holy matrimony claims.
Black jack has better odds.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
3. Abstinence has the greatest effectiveness at preventing pregnancy and STDs.
I have a problem with this meme. Abstinence is the intended outcome of a choice, not a choice in and of itself. More correctly, that statement should be written “Good intentions have the greates effectiveness at preventing pregnancy and STDs.” Phrased this way, it is patently ridiculous.
Kids who have “abstinence only” education or who are in “promise/wait programs” usually only decide to have sex spontaneously, rather than planning to in advance. Kids in comprehensive sex education programs usually don’t plan to in advance either – in fact, they tend to have sex a little later – but they do know how to protect themselves should they find themselves caught up in the moment.
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misshusseinmolly Says:
Factual information can go a long way. There really is no need to lie.
Absolutely. I’d add to your list the emotional complications involved in most sexual activity. I think that psychological consequences (via peer-reviewed studies) should be included in sex education programs. Consider how many teenagers have ridiculous expectations of the opposite gender.
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wiley Says:
…he was taught that sex is filthy and nasty, and that you must save it for someone you love.
Why would you want to give something filthy and nasty to someone you love? The cognitive dissonance involved in this stuff is the main reason that teenagers figure out so quickly that they’re being lied to.
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pete Says:
The Darylls of the world are really afraid that they will go to Hell for the “sins” of others.
Let’s all make sure to do our part. ;)
January 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pmas usual ElBruce, you hit home nicely.
Why would you want to give something filthy and nasty to someone you love? The cognitive dissonance involved in this stuff is the main reason that teenagers figure out so quickly that they’re being lied to.
Why do we think all teenagers are retarded?
January 16th, 2009 at 5:29 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
January 16th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Excellent post, missmolly. Very well said. Tell them the truth! As soon as they find out you lie to them, they lose trust in you. And without that trust, it’s virtually impossible to be a parent. Or so I understand. I have no children, but I’ve seen what happened to my niece and nephews.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:31 pmwiley Says:
Having sex before marriage is like having sex before marriage.
I’ve been married twenty years, and as far as I recall, sex before marriage was more fun than sex after marriage.
Too bad RR will never be able to make that comparison.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:32 pm.
Ladies, there is a reason this clown is a “bachelor”.
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January 16th, 2009 at 5:41 pm.
I would abstain from sex with this clown, too.
You never know where his magic wand has been.
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January 16th, 2009 at 5:42 pm.
Hey everyone,
Daryyl is saving us all a seat next to him in hell…
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January 16th, 2009 at 5:43 pm“I’m going to start thinking of condoms as little angels in a wrapper…”
ElBruce, your entire comment cracked me up, but this one was the best.
Misshusseinmolly, bravo for your excellent post at #97.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:52 pmthat video worked, i dont want to have sex anymore..
January 16th, 2009 at 6:24 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
I’ve been married twenty years, and as far as I recall, sex before marriage was more fun than sex after marriage.
Too bad RR will never be able to make that comparison.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Jane is gonna kick your ass for that. :-D
January 16th, 2009 at 6:29 pmWho do you think gave him that ‘recommend’, Zooey? ;-)
January 16th, 2009 at 6:38 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
I’ve been married twenty years, and as far as I recall, sex before marriage was more fun than sex after marriage.
May I recommend incorporating a juggling routine? Biblethumpers swear by it.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:42 pmwiley Says:
Having sex before marriage is like having sex before marriage.
I’ve been married twenty years, and as far as I recall, sex before marriage was more fun than sex after marriage.
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Then you might be doing it wrong.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:43 pmElBruce, when Wayne juggles, he concentrates completely on juggling.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:45 pmAw man, looks like I missed the good thread… It’s gonna take me awhile to catch up.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:47 pmElBruce Says
January 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
I have a problem with this meme. Abstinence is the intended outcome of a choice, not a choice in and of itself. More correctly, that statement should be written “Good intentions have the greates effectiveness at preventing pregnancy and STDs.” Phrased this way, it is patently ridiculous.
Kids who have “abstinence only” education or who are in “promise/wait programs” usually only decide to have sex spontaneously, rather than planning to in advance. Kids in comprehensive sex education programs usually don’t plan to in advance either – in fact, they tend to have sex a little later – but they do know how to protect themselves should they find themselves caught up in the moment.
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I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said in that second paragraph. But your first paragraph is confusing. Abstinence isn’t a choice? I can’t choose to abstain from sex in the way that I might choose to abstain from refined sugar or domestic beer or smoking? I believe that abstaining from sex — whether it’s just for the moment, for an extended period of time, or for a lifetime — is very much a matter of choice (except, of course, in the horrible instance of rape). For example, if I was presented with an opportunity to have sex, I would choose to abstain if I felt there was a risk of pregnancy or an STD and no protection (or, of course, if I didn’t feel like it). However, there are often times when people do get “caught up in the moment” and their decision-making processes don’t work as rationally as usual (this doesn’t mean they’re helpless — just less rational). Therefore, it’s good to have some kind of back-up plan just in case. Hey — I can choose to abstain from chocolate, but I guarantee the chances of me falling off the wagon are pretty great.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:59 pmHey — I can choose to abstain from chocolate, but I guarantee the chances of me falling off the wagon are pretty great.
Isn’t chocolate an aphrodisiac? Or is it a replacement? hmmmm
January 16th, 2009 at 7:04 pmJane E. Schneider Says:
Who do you think gave him that ‘recommend’, Zooey? ;-)
January 16th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
My condolences… ;)
January 16th, 2009 at 7:13 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
Abstinence isn’t a choice? I can’t choose to abstain from sex in the way that I might choose to abstain from refined sugar or domestic beer or smoking? I believe that abstaining from sex — whether it’s just for the moment, for an extended period of time, or for a lifetime — is very much a matter of choice (except, of course, in the horrible instance of rape).
You can intend to be abstinent. But that’s not the same thing as being abstinent.
I think it’s an important distinction to make when you’re dealing with such a powerful urge. One might liken just how horny teenagers get to someone trying to quit heroin. (I’m not saying that urge is exactly as powerful, but it’s up there in the area of pretty abnormally powerful urges). Saying that abstinence is 100% effective is like saying that quitting heroin is 100% effective; you’re only counting the successful cases, after the fact. What really counts is the effectiveness of the intention, which is considerably lower in both cases.
That’s why the “abstinence is 100% effective” statement bugs me so much. It has no bearing on reality, and is in fact extremely misleading.
I’m not saying that if you should give up just because the failure rate is high. If you want to wait, wait. But you might change your mind. The important thing is not which decision you make, but that you make the decision (either way) carefully and with appropriate forethought.
January 16th, 2009 at 8:42 pmThese people are more then clowns; they are part of the problem, not part of the solution. Most of them are stooges, some of them are hypocrites, and some are even evil. People like RaptureReady, claim you will go to hell; when they do not realize, they are in their own personal hell.
January 16th, 2009 at 9:41 pmElBruce Says
January 16th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
You can intend to be abstinent. But that’s not the same thing as being abstinent.
That’s why the “abstinence is 100% effective” statement bugs me so much. It has no bearing on reality, and is in fact extremely misleading.
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OK, I think we’re both right, but we’re talking about two different things. You’re talking about “intended abstinence”, which has a high failure rate, I agree. I’m talking about “actual abstinence”, which IS 100% effective. But I agree with you that actual abstinence isn’t always easy for hormone-riddled people to achieve.
Abstinence is still a choice. But the choice shouldn’t be made in a classroom with a pledge form shoved at you — that’s the wrong time. The choice should be made at the time the opportunity for sex presents itself — which is much more difficult, but still a choice. Other choices might be “let’s have sex, but with a condom” or “what the h*ll, let’s get it on and not worry about it”. But whatever the choice is — THIS is the time to make it. And THIS is the time a teen should be armed with enough information to make the most intelligent choice he/she can make with a hormone-impaired brain. Making teens take “pledges” is just stupid — not to mention worthless.
I agree with you that “abstinence is 100% effective” can conjure up visions of bible-thumpers turning a blind eye to reality, even if it happens to be true about ACTUAL abstinence. Perhaps it should come with a disclaimer?
January 16th, 2009 at 9:42 pmBush and the complicit Congress are ignorant, stupid A$$wipes too. Freud would suggest, they were never properly toilet trained ( anal retentive personalities).
January 16th, 2009 at 9:48 pmAnother creepy clown with a crawl space under his house?
January 16th, 2009 at 9:54 pm.
I’m waiting for the pro-marriage clown…
… Oh wait, that’s Daryyl.
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January 16th, 2009 at 11:15 pmWhat is amazing to me is Dye’s happy life includes wearing a very ugly sweater vest and a bowler hat.
January 16th, 2009 at 11:31 pmI’ll start with a disclaimer: I have never made love with a woman I didn’t love.
Now that that’s out of the way; I spent several of my formative years trying to have sex with, virtually, every female bipedal primate I met. I didn’t rape them. I didn’t trick them. So? I didn’t have any success.
Does that mean I “practiced abstinence”?
January 16th, 2009 at 11:33 pmGod protects us from many diseases. During your lifetime, how many times has he healed you or prevented significant harm from happening to you (I can guarantee you countless times).
Having studied microbiology, I can tell you that God didn’t protect too many people before someone realized that when doctors washed their hands between handling patients, that infections weren’t spread by pathogens before anyone ever looked under a microscope and discovered germs… before that … not so much.
Not to mention before the wastewater treatment of upstream pollution, many many people died downstream from the plague.
Unless God is a mean SOB and likes to watch people die…
January 16th, 2009 at 11:41 pmsacopenapa Says:
Merrige is THE END of a good and healthy sexual life!
January 16th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
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Then conservatives should have NO problem with gay people getting married then, right?
January 16th, 2009 at 11:44 pmAncient greeks had a great ‘moto’:
January 16th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
A healthy active sexual life, gives experience in life and partners.
January 17th, 2009 at 12:11 amAbstaining from sex, you may risk not having knowledge to satisfy you and your partner.
You may risk geting in a bad marrige that will make your life miserable.
Sex is healthy so is sexual education. Education includes understanding of sexual behaviour, physiology of the sexual organs, sexual orientation and STDs.
Teaching adolescents and pre-adolescents good sexual education is imperative if you CARE and love them.
Teaching Abstinence should be considered criminal, for not only it is going against teens natural behaviour of experimentation in order to learn, but it does not provide full information about sexuality and what comes with it. It doesn’t even talk about masturbation (which would help the abstinence cause!).
I had great teachers when i was groing up, back in Brazil. They talked to the entire classes up front and straight. There was no mystery and no rock unturned. We felt the adults were being honest to us and the information we received, I’m sure, helped us make informed decisions.
And above all, we all left school knowing the truth: Sex is a good thing. nothing to be ashamed or guilty about. Use protection, have fun and learn. It went along way in our adult lives.
It was a Catholic school!!!!
John Wayne Gacey
January 17th, 2009 at 10:50 amwas a
Republican/Christian
Clown
Sorry, wingnuts don’t speak “inconvenient fact.” They can’t understand you.
January 17th, 2009 at 4:30 pmRaptureReady, I’m sorry to inform you, but there is no god. That’s right, I don’t believe in god. I openly mock him and often openly mock and insult the dumber sheep that follow him. (Though not all, some christians are cool and if that’s how you want to live your life, fine, but don’t push it on other people) I’ve had premarital sex on a number of occasions with a number of partners, both as a teen and as an adult. I’ve never gotten anyone pregnant and never contracted any STD’s. If there was a god, don’t you think he’d be a little pissed by now?
January 18th, 2009 at 12:36 am