Fred Barnes doesn’t bat an eye when C-Span caller and Barnes fan calls Obama ‘Mr. Monkey Boy’.
Fred Barnes doesn’t bat an eye when C-Span caller and Barnes fan calls Obama ‘Mr. Monkey Boy’.
Today on C-Span’s “Washington Journal,” conservative columnist Fred Barnes continued to defend the Bush presidency and insisted that Barack Obama would not represent much change from Bush. When a caller — who identified himself as a big fan of Barnes — referred to Obama as “Mr. Monkey Boy,” Barnes didn’t bat an eye, immediately addressing the caller’s question without pausing to condemn the epithet. Watch it:
Bigotry doesn’t seem to bother Fred Barnes. In fact, he urged Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) to exploit anti-gay bigotry in order to revive his flailing campaign, saying McCain was “going to have to use” gay-bashing to get elected. He also insisted it was “obviously right” to say that Obama would not have won the primary race against Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) “if he were not black.”
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Someone needs to ask Barnes: “Are you ok with your callers calling President Elect Obama ‘Mr Monkey Boy’?”
January 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pmMr. Monkey boy?
Is that the best they’ve got?
Man are Republicans ever stupid.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:07 pmI’m glad the next caller spoke up about the racist name-calling, but neither Barnes nor the other guy said a thing.
Both need to lose their C-Span jobs immediately. Does anyone know a contact number?
January 16th, 2009 at 1:08 pmAt least a monkey is a high-order and intelligent primate, unlike Barnes and his caller.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:08 pmand the host? that reaction???
January 16th, 2009 at 1:08 pmWhy is it that the most concise political commentary we get from the media today comes from the comedians?
January 16th, 2009 at 1:11 pmAwesome. Stay classy, Republicans. We’ll see ya in 2010.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:11 pmWhat do you expect – that’s their “base”, ignorant, racist fools. It’s barne’s bread and butter.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:12 pmMr. Monkey Boy? Are we sure he wasn’t refering to George Bush?
January 16th, 2009 at 1:12 pmhttp://www.onedigitallife.com/images/bush-monkey_big.jpg
Ah, don’tcha just *love* Repigs? They’re so stupid they can’t even come up with an original insult. Next thing you know, they’ll be calling Obama “Chimpy.”
Morons.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:14 pmRepublicans – are just including minorities in their public discussions by calling them endearing names.
Nothing wrong with that…..is there?
/snarkitity snark snark
January 16th, 2009 at 1:15 pmI do find it… curious… that GOOPers are okay w/ comments like “Mr Monkey Boy”, or “Black and Bitter” and just say those of us who object are too thin-skinned, BUT, when the media rightfully scrutinizes Sarah Palin’s qualifications to be Veep, they immediately scream “Sexism!!!”
January 16th, 2009 at 1:19 pmHere ya go, Zooey:
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Does the hate crime multiplier apply to things like slander and libel? Or is there a Repuglican exemption for being stupid?
January 16th, 2009 at 1:20 pmOkay — NOW picture Fred Barnes reacting to a caller who refers to George W. Bush as “Chimpy”. Would he ignore the slam and just go on to address the caller’s question?
I don’t think so.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:22 pmWhat goes through their minds when they hear that over the phone? Isn’t there a momentary “maybe I should say something?” McCain used to at least sort of grimace or pause, but Palin breezed right on. The only way I think that someone could ever not even notice that such a thing was being said, is if they personally think of Obama in similar terms themselves. That is, such language doesn’t even seem the slightest bit odd to them.
Also, all monkey and chimp related epithets are already trademarked by W. No plagiarizing, R’s! Come up with your own insults!
January 16th, 2009 at 1:22 pmElBruce, the same thing goes through their minds at that time as it does for a june bug when it hits the windshield.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:23 pm*
John Conyers on Ed Schultz shortly.
ed WILL be asking him about the House and investigating bushco.
try to listen if you can:
http://wegoted.com/listenLive/
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January 16th, 2009 at 1:24 pmto me it did looked like barnes was visibly perturbed, albeit very slightly, by the epithet…..watch it closely….
January 16th, 2009 at 1:32 pmSometimes, you want to take the spirit of bi-partisan cooperation and just shove it as far up certain sphincters as it can go….
But, we’re better then that… and we can always dream….
January 16th, 2009 at 1:34 pmit’s amazing to me how many people here simply follow in lock-step to TP’s pronouncement that this was, indeed, a racist act on the part of fred barnes, without ever considering once that TP might be, uh, wrong. does TP have any proof that fred barnes found the caller’s epithet acceptable? no, they don’t, be here we have at least a dozen people making all manner of comments wholly out of line with reality…..pretty amazing.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pmHey, that’s a line out of “The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai” (1984). John Lithgow, playing one of the crazy evil alien invaders from the 8th dimension, said: “Laugh-a while you can, monkey-boy.”
January 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pmWhats so good about all of this is that its all on tape and film, so it can and should be used against them to beat the sh_t out of them for years and years to come, continuing all of them down the road of eternal irrelevancy. Thanks Fred, you and the rest of you are doing a “heck of a job”
Idiots
RIP
January 16th, 2009 at 1:39 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
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darladooner Says: does TP have any proof that fred barnes found the caller’s epithet acceptable?
His failure to confront the epithet is evidence that he did not find it UNacceptable enough to say anything. And remember, in the neocon world of “reality” you are either for something or against something.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:42 pmThe ignorant hick on the phone said ‘Monkey Boy’ real quickly towards the end of his phone call and hung up. How can this hick claim that Bush protected us these last 8yrs? Dumb hick, look st the situation in the Middle East, look at current state of the economy, look at our infrastructure. Bush only protected the have-mores and said the hell with the rest of us!
January 16th, 2009 at 1:42 pmWhat does it say about Mr. Barnes that he doesn’t feel the need to condemn or defend a racist remark about a soon to be sitting President of the United States? Either Mr. Barnes “disagrees” with the remark and is too cowardly to confront an ally who is a racist or he no longer feels the need to hide the fact that he himself IS a racist.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:44 pmdarladooner Says:
does TP have any proof that fred barnes found the caller’s epithet acceptable?
Yeah, the video includes Barnes’ response, which treats the question as acceptable.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:48 pmMr. Barnes is a despicable relic of blind ignorance and fearful hatred with the character and credibility of a red neck hillbilly in a white hood who has fathered three children with his sister, first cousin and niece. The fact that Mr. Barnes has money and a bully pulpit does not elevate or separate him from the white trash pond scum his words and values reflect.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:51 pmLeftside Annie Says:
Here ya go, Zooey:
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January 16th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Thanks, Annie!! Everyone call and let them know racism is not acceptable — politely. :-)
January 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pmHis failure to confront the epithet is evidence that he did not find it UNacceptable enough to say anything.
sorry, but that is not “evidence.” barnes does not need to say anything to find the caller’s epithet unacceptable.
Yeah, the video includes Barnes’ response, which treats the question as acceptable
you wouldn’t make a very good lawyer. see my resonse above.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pmdarladooner Says:
it’s amazing to me how many people here simply follow in lock-step to TP’s pronouncement that this was, indeed, a racist act on the part of fred barnes, without ever considering once that TP might be, uh, wrong.
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Sorry, but Barnes doesn’t even flinch or bat an eye. Follow in lock-step? Gee, a little Nazi reference? Just this week alone we’ve been treated to Tanner’s “black and bitter” comment, King’s upset over Obama’s middle name and now this.
And let’s not forget Obama Waffles, Sarah Palin’s numerous “he’s different from you and me” inferences, or just how many friggin’ times Obama was called oSama…
Yeah… people are looking for a fight these days… and where there’s smoke, there usually is a fire. If the GOOP has a reputation for racism these days, it prolly is deserved in some form, huh?
BTW, I always suspected you were a troll in hiding. Coming out of the closet?
January 16th, 2009 at 1:53 pmdarladooner Says:
you wouldn’t make a very good lawyer
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Neither would you. Barnes doesn’t bat an eye.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:54 pmdarladooner
and you aren’t a very good speller.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:54 pmdarladooner Says:
it’s amazing to me how many people here simply follow in lock-step to TP’s pronouncement that this was, indeed, a racist act on the part of fred barnes, without ever considering once that TP might be, uh, wrong. does TP have any proof that fred barnes found the caller’s epithet acceptable? no, they don’t, be here we have at least a dozen people making all manner of comments wholly out of line with reality…..pretty amazing.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Not calling that scumbag out on his blatant racism and notifying other callers that such comments are not acceptable immediately is ACCEPTING THE RACISM.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:55 pmdarladooner Says:
His failure to confront the epithet is evidence that he did not find it UNacceptable enough to say anything.
sorry, but that is not “evidence.” barnes does not need to say anything to find the caller’s epithet unacceptable.
Yeah, the video includes Barnes’ response, which treats the question as acceptable
you wouldn’t make a very good lawyer. see my resonse above.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Neither would you, since you fail to recognize that C-Span and TP are not courts of law.
Run along, dipshit…
January 16th, 2009 at 1:57 pmSorry darladooner but failure to act in the presence of egregious acts is called tacit approval and acceptable as evidence.
January 16th, 2009 at 1:58 pmBTW, I always suspected you were a troll in hiding. Coming out of the closet?
so, anyone who dare questions the “wisdom” of TP is, ergo, a troll? a republican? here is the “logic” of TP followers: since fred barnes failed to “bat an eye” (as if that can actually be proven), he is, ergo, a racist.
Not calling that scumbag out on his blatant racism and notifying other callers that such comments are not acceptable immediately is ACCEPTING THE RACISM.
not necessarily true. in fact, we will never know how fred barnes feels about this particular instance, unless, of course, he feels compelled to say something in the future.
Sorry darladooner but failure to act in the presence of egregious acts is called tacit approval and acceptable as evidence.
again, not necessarily true. and i’ll ask you a question: what have you done to prevent the ongoing atrocities in darfur and gaza, besides sit at your laptop terminal and type all day? are you not, in fact, accepting these atrocities through the failure to act?
here is the definition of “troll” and “republican” by the vast bulk of TP users:
1) someone who disagrees with TP
January 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pmdarladooner = apologist for racism
this has to be THE quote of the day, since:
a) i’m black
b) i’m jewish
c) i’m lesbian
January 16th, 2009 at 2:08 pmdarladooner Says:
January 16th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
So?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:10 pmIf a questioner had asked Mr. Barnes how history would judge the current white trash honky in the White House, would he have simply answered the question or would he have disagreed with it’s premise? Those who are defending Mr. Barnes are just as intellectually dishonest as he is.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:11 pmdarladooner Says:
it’s amazing to me how many people here simply follow in lock-step to TP’s pronouncement that this was, indeed, a racist act on the part of fred barnes, without ever considering once that TP might be, uh, wrong.
Come on dear, you know that when you walk into a room and insult most of the people in it you’re asking for a fight.
Btw, what have you done to prevent atrocities in Darfur and Gaza?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:11 pmblack jewish lesbians are hot…
January 16th, 2009 at 2:13 pmOh good lord, already the thread has devolved into name calling and bickering, the worst part of all, we’re picking on each other instead of the inbred moron (er…maybe that’s plural) who called in.
Yes of course, if you watch this call in problem as do I, you’ll see this type of nonsense all the time, Media Matters grabs it. The problem is, it happens on both sides, you’ll hear African Americans call in and shout epithets at lighter skinned persons, and such as in this case you’ll here idiots speak negatively against our African American counterparts.
This clip is not news. Watch this program, compared to what you get on a daily basis, this is very lame. Very personal comments are made about Democrats and Republicans alike, and then of course when given the chance both of those above will take the Third Parties out to the back alley and have attem’.
Am I excusing the comment? Of course not, sadly I hear this from folks around me in the great state of Misery (Missouri), its hard, and though I didn’t even vote for Barack, its damn offensive, and I do my part to confront people when they say these hideous, archaic slurs.
Now onto why Fred didn’t respond. He did something right for once, act as if nothing had been said, and the host did a good job as well. Its not quiet approval, its ignoring an immature and frankly unneccesary comment. He’s an adult, obviously the caller is not, and though he may sound it, his IQ is showing he’s slightly dumber than a rock.
People call in all the time to this show, and either just say the F word, or go on racist and sexist tangents. We ignore it, in my case if such thing comes on the air, I flip the channel. Most intelligent adults need not sink to that level, nor acknowledge that type of gibberish.
That said, the following caller was justified in pointing it out. And I loved his mentioning of “christian” citizen. Love the irony.
Good day
January 16th, 2009 at 2:18 pmwe’re picking on each other instead of the inbred moron (er…maybe that’s plural) who called in.
ah-hah, there’s one intelligent person here.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:23 pmAh, darladooner is enabled into her assholierthanthou routine…
January 16th, 2009 at 2:25 pmApropos: I think the people who moan the most about the evils of “political correctness” are really just some guys who want to go on talking like bigots. They don’t come out and say it, but the political right–mostly white males, let’s face it–clearly believe they have a God-given right to talk like bigots. They pout when people ask them to clean up their act.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:27 pmdarla, darla, darla…there is a huge difference between being aware of injustice in the world, ie Darfur etc and being on the public airwaves when someone drops a turd in your lap. You obviously chose to overlook the word presence. No, it isn’t what Santa leaves under your tree.
The definition of troll is not one who disagrees, it is one who refuses to acknowledge and respect the opinions of others and does so in an abusive manner.
And you are somewhat correct. Witnessing illegal behavior without responding is not only tacit approval because a good lawyer can prove conspiracy as well.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pmand, Darla, did you really have to add Repuglican to the list?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:35 pmthere is a huge difference between being aware of injustice in the world, ie Darfur etc and being on the public airwaves when someone drops a turd in your lap
thanks for empasizing my point. if X (barnes) does not act on Y (racism), then this does not necessarily mean that X accepts Y.
that’s just plain logic which many of TP’s users fail to grasp.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:46 pmso amusing to see people laugh, and even disparage, my ethnic/sexual background, while bemoaning fred barnes’s refusal to “act”
January 16th, 2009 at 2:46 pmThanks for your call, white cracker asswipe. Now, go spank your monkey with the Sarah Palin Calendar.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:47 pmHe also insisted it was “obviously right” to say that Obama would not have won the primary race against Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) “if he were not black.”
I guess with such an advantage, we can look forward to nothing but black Presidents from now on, huh?
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darladooner Says:
sorry, but that is not “evidence.” barnes does not need to say anything to find the caller’s epithet unacceptable.
Yeah, it is. If you don’t correct people, then you are accepting their racism. Barnes treated the caller’s question as valid, and responded to it politely. That is what it means, in real terms, to “accept” something.
Now, maybe he didn’t think the fact that the caller was using racial epithets as important, thinking “I disagree with your use of that word, but that’s not important right now so we’ll skip over it and I’ll just address the rest of your question.” In fact, that sounds most likely.
But in that case, he’s still accepting racism in that he doesn’t feel that overt racism is important enough to mention. Treating open racism as unimportant, is racist. That’s how the South managed to keep Jim Crow laws on the books for so long even though only a minority of the population was being actively racist. The rest of them just didn’t want to cause any trouble.
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darladooner Says:
so, anyone who dare questions the “wisdom” of TP is, ergo, a troll? a republican?
That’s pretty much how it goes down around here, yeah.
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darladooner Says:
in fact, we will never know how fred barnes feels about this particular instance, unless, of course, he feels compelled to say something in the future.
Obviously, he doesn’t feel strongly enough about blatant racism in front of him to bother mentioning it. He finds it normal and tolerable.
Your approach is similar to saying I can’t claim a rock is immobile because it doesn’t move.
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darladooner Says:
again, not necessarily true. and i’ll ask you a question: what have you done to prevent the ongoing atrocities in darfur and gaza, besides sit at your laptop terminal and type all day?
If somebody at my call-in show mentioned in passing that they supported such atrocities, I’d throw out the rest of their question and address that. It’s not much, but it’s not nothing.
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darladooner Says:
this has to be THE quote of the day, since:
No you’re not. I have now provided as much proof that you aren’t as you have that you are. Unverifiable personal claims are out of bounds.
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Naderite Says:
…instead of the inbred moron (er…maybe that’s plural) who called in.
There’s really no point in discussing the call-in guy, or pointing out that he’s a racist. He just is. There’s nothing else to say about him.
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Naderite Says:
This clip is not news. Watch this program, compared to what you get on a daily basis, this is very lame.
The clip was played on national television, on C-Span, no less. The response should be commensurate with the platform being defiled.
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Naderite Says:
I do my part to confront people when they say these hideous, archaic slurs.
Why? According to you, saying nothing is just as good as saying something.
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darladooner Says:
Its not quiet approval, its ignoring an immature and frankly unneccesary comment.
He didn’t ignore the comment, he ignored that term only and agreed with the gist of what the racist caller said. The “adult” thing to do without addressing it would be to just say “let’s take a different call” at that point, then act as if nothing had happened. Instead, he engaged with the racist as if his opinion were worth discussing.
Treating the bulk of the question as valid is kind of like a football ref saying “let’s ignore the part where that offensive lineman facemasked the defender and score the goal because that pass over there was really great.” There are some things that should invalidate one’s entire opinion, and they should be called out on that.
To do otherwise is to invite more racism into public discourse.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:51 pmYeah, it is. If you don’t correct people, then you are accepting their racism.
this is illogical, as i’ve pointed out about w/ a very simple equation.
He finds it normal and tolerable.
you have no idea how fred barnes understood the caller’s comment.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pmStay classy Barnes. You too darla. Oh and naderite, thanks for your concern.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pmafter reading the norquist article i almost came in to comment but decided no, just let it go. but then along comes fred barnes. the depths of ignorance and bad manners is astounding. these men portray habits and patterns we can attribute to sociopaths and psychopaths. we should be examining this closely and owndering just what kind of world they want to live in. powerful people with lots of money are the only acceptable inhabitants apparently. but their willingness to use the metaphors and slurs they do shows a corrupted mind or an ill mind. there is no way around it and playing the liberal-nurture role here blinds us to the real danger in the ideology behing their words. norquist is frightening…barnes is just a nincompoop. these adhominens contain important distinctions we must acknowledge in the heirarchy of deviance and propaganda.
January 16th, 2009 at 2:58 pmGee darla, I think we’re all entitled to our opinions on how a comment like that should be handled. Because you approve of Barnes response doesn’t mean we all have to does it?
January 16th, 2009 at 2:59 pmand darladooner, in response to just one of your posts, a real professional with a fully developed moral system would have addressed the slur. by not addressing it he is playing a little game where the slur becomes poison allowed to remain in the collective system. by not challenging it barnes is saying “yes i agree the monkeyboy…” right wing media criticism shows a total lack of awareness or understanding on all blogs as far as i am concerned.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:04 pma real professional with a fully developed moral system would have addressed the slur. by not addressing it he is playing a little game where the slur becomes poison allowed to remain in the collective system. by not challenging it barnes is saying “yes i agree the monkeyboy
i don’t dispute that barnes is unprofessional; i dispute the claim that, because he refused to address the caller’s comment is therefore racist.
i have challenged anyone at TP to dispute my above claim, and as yet, nobody has done even a satisfactory job of doing so, except naderite.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:06 pmdarladooner Says:
this is illogical, as i’ve pointed out about w/ a very simple equation.
I countered your “equation” above, with my unstoppable Kung Fu.
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darladooner Says:
you have no idea how fred barnes understood the caller’s comment.
Hey, for all I know, Grover Norquist wants higher taxes. The only way I figure out what people think is through their behavior. Often, a lack of a response is a response.
Funny thing – everybody I’ve ever met or heard from who was Jewish, black or homosexual understands very clearly how tacit bigotry supports and increases active bigotry. They’ve always been more concerned and upset about the people who stand around and say nothing when a bigot slanders them, than they are about the bigot himself. The civil rights era only managed to turn things around when people realized that it was all of the “bystanders” to the struggle who had the power, and their refusal to become involved was effectively more damaging to minorities than the active attempts of a few people to keep them subjugated. In terms of its real consequences, saying nothing is worse than anything you could say, no matter how awful.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:09 pmStop giving fascists air time already!
Ignore them and they will go away.
Just remember never vote Rethug/fascist.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:20 pmNo wander they lost an election!
January 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pmA professional, regardless of political affiliation, would have simply said, “that’s uncalled for, next caller“. Alas, he didn’t. He answered the caller without any attention to the racist bit. If my lawyer missed such an opportunity I’d fire him/her on the spot.
January 16th, 2009 at 3:32 pmShouldn’t you be looking for a new stupid picture?
January 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pm#72–so, by your logic, there is no such thing as a “bigot”? Since no one was alive when blacks were actually enslaved? Wow…talk about your “Get out of Jail Free” card…
January 16th, 2009 at 4:02 pmdarladooner:
January 16th, 2009 at 4:03 pmSee the problem with your challenge is that as indicated by #67, you have decided that you get to be the one to decide whether or not you like the response. That sort of negates the whole challenge thing. See what I mean?
a man’s potency? That sounds disturbing…
January 16th, 2009 at 4:05 pmIt will be interesting to see how long the right wing nuts keep up this theme of calling Obama’s cabinet policies as no change from Bush.
I do believe it is part of their concerted effort to embarras Obama by claiming that he did not follow through with his promise of change.
So they’ll make false statements about Obama’s new policies actually being Bush W policies. I am sure of it!
January 16th, 2009 at 4:11 pmmk3872:
January 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pmI am waiting for when things finally improve for them to explain how it is the result of the foundation Bush put in place and that it just needed time. I love that shit…
See the problem with your challenge is that as indicated by #67, you have decided that you get to be the one to decide whether or not you like the response. That sort of negates the whole challenge thing. See what I mean?
get back to me with a logical equation.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:41 pmDynamo Says:
From 1800 to 1865 only blacks were enslaved in America. Before that whites were held as Indentured servants until the 1800s. Fast forward 143 years and the left is still trying to divided the country by stoking and aggravating ancient dark periods in our history.
Indentured servitude was not permanent or hereditary. There’s no comparison.
Claiming that the brutalization of black people for four centuries in America is a left-wing conspiracy is historical revisionism on par with those neo-Nazis who claim that the Holocaust never happened, or Turkey’s claim that the Armenian genocide was just a matter of some people “going for a walk.”
Tell me lynching didn’t happen, or that it was a “few isolated icidents.” My God – 3/5ths of a human, poll taxes, Jim Crow, the KKK, “til death or distance do us part,” the middle passage – you really believe liberals made all that up just to make you feel bad?
Maybe when you people stop trying to excuse it, we can stop pointing it out. But as long as there are folks like you around defending it, that drum still needs banging.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:56 pmJohn Kerry Says:
So…it’s true! If Monkey Boy…
Let’s just cut JK off there. Next commenter, please.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:58 pmRacism and tax cuts is all the Republican party has left.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:58 pmHi John Kerry:
January 16th, 2009 at 5:08 pmHow do you feel about about deep fried mahi mahi nuggets? We could make some sort of variation on that tiresome mayo and relish shit. Otherwise I have some venison stew meat but it would take awhile. Still that would give us more time to chat about all of your ideas. What do you say John?
ElBruce:
January 16th, 2009 at 5:10 pmI understand your point but I really think we need to give John Kerry the chance to explain his weird racism and oddball shit. He probably won’t because he is the biggest pussy that has ever lived and is totally afraid but still I think we have to encourage him to work through his fear
darladooner Says:
See the problem with your challenge is that as indicated by #67, you have decided that you get to be the one to decide whether or not you like the response. That sort of negates the whole challenge thing. See what I mean?
get back to me with a logical equation.
January 16th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Your assertion may be valid, but it is not sound. You have assumed that we should accept your variety of logic, and you have also assumed that your assertion is within the domain of logic.
Nice try.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pmIt doesn’t matter that Barnes may have looked a little upset at the remark, what did he say? Nothing. You cannot kill racism by saying nothing. You have to hit at it whenever it comes up.
That’s why it is still here, because the nice people say nothing. We keep letting it pass and wonder why it is still here. And this includes remarks by blacks against whites. I have heard that too. But I have to say not as much.
I am so fed up that we still have it. I thought by now the issue would be mute. And it is in every country. We all have our race problems. I was simply hoping we here could conquer it.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:37 pmExcuse me darla dear, but one who ignores racist comments begs to be considered a racist.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:43 pmand if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, odds are it is a duck. It seems your understanding of logic is sylogictic so think about it.
January 16th, 2009 at 5:45 pmYour assertion may be valid, but it is not sound. You have assumed that we should accept your variety of logic, and you have also assumed that your assertion is within the domain of logic.
this makes absolutely no sense, and it is obvious that you have no idea how to disprove my equation.
i’ll repeat: if X (barnes) does not act on Y (racism), then this does not necessarily mean that X accepts and/or tolerates Y.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:00 pmDynamo Says:
It is easy. We are intelligent beings and people calling blacks Monkey boy are bigots. YOU are most likely a moron. As if Blacks had no oppression since slavery ended. I just love the way you guys obsess on all slights toward you till the end of time but any transgressions no matter how vile that your side perpetrates or that you feel kinship with and it needs to be forgotten before the effects have been addressed. It was only a few years ago the HEAD OF THE GOP appologized for the racist Southern Strategy. You have no shame and no self awarness Dynamo. That is your burden. Trying to convince those of us who do it is a bad thing is frankly stupid.
January 16th, 2009 at 7:02 pmdarladooner Says:
i’ll repeat: if X (barnes) does not act on Y (racism), then this does not necessarily mean that X accepts and/or tolerates Y.
January 16th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Working with your own words: if X (barnes) does not act on Y (racism), then this does not necessarily mean that X rejects and/or condemns Y.
Keep trying!
January 16th, 2009 at 7:18 pmRepubliCons are ignorant, stupid, evil racists, and largely criminal. Let’s start putting the criminal ones in jail.
January 16th, 2009 at 9:56 pmJK you are an ignorant RACIST piece of garbage and the entire world stinks just a little more because you are in it.
January 17th, 2009 at 12:44 amLet the republicans dig their own grave a little deeper yet…..
January 17th, 2009 at 6:47 pmI remember not long ago the hate that and still does come from the lips of the left. Both sides are guilty.
January 18th, 2009 at 10:09 pmI think he looks more like Al E. Newman. Lighten up its only politics.
January 18th, 2009 at 10:11 pmCspan culled this part out out of their archived Barnes interview. Your clip should be saved.
I looked for cspan’s archived copy to get more context and was very confused when this part of the interview wasn’t in it. It was only after playing it back several times to verify it wasn’t there, did i look at the time clock in the upper right of cspan’s screen and found the discrepancy.
Their culling is very seamless, so hard to spot. My eyes weren’t good enough to read the time on cspan’s screen (and couldn’t download it to zoom in).
Here is the link – (or else search their video archives for “barnes”)
TP’s copy can be zoomed enough to see the two callers occur roughly from 55 to 57 minutes after the hour. There is no overlapping for easier reference here. I’m saving this one.
It appears that cspan did edit this segment out. I wouldn’t have guessed they did that sort of thing. Maybe they instituted a policy of cleaning up their archives due to so many nut cases calling in to drop obscenities? This one should Not have been culled out though.
January 23rd, 2009 at 1:26 amTHIS should be the cspan link.
January 23rd, 2009 at 1:29 amhttp://www.c-span.org/Watch/watch.aspx?MediaId=HP-A-14413