The Top 43 Appointees Who Helped Make Bush The Worst President Ever
The Top 43 Appointees Who Helped Make Bush The Worst President Ever
This item originally published in yesterday’s Progress Report. To receive The Progress Report in your email inbox everyday, click here.
Next week, “change is coming to America,” as President George W. Bush wraps up his tenure as one of the worst American presidents ever. He wasn’t able to accomplish such an ignominious feat all by himself, however; he had a great deal of help along the way. The ThinkProgress team heralds the conclusion of the Bush 43 presidency by bringing you our list of the top 43 worst Bush appointees. Did we miss anyone? Who should have been ranked higher? Let us know what you think.
1. Dick Cheney — The worst Dick since Nixon. The man who shot his friend while in office. The “most powerful and controversial vice president.” Until he got the job, people used to actually think it was a bad thing that the vice presidency has historically been a do-nothing position. Asked by PBS’s Jim Lehrer about why people hate him, Cheney rejected the premise, saying, “I don’t buy that.” His top placement in our survey says otherwise.
2. Karl Rove — There wasn’t a scandal in the Bush administration that Rove didn’t have his fingerprints all over — see Plame, Iraq war deception, Gov. Don Siegelman, U.S. Attorney firings, missing e-mails, and more. As senior political adviser and later as deputy chief of staff, “The Architect” was responsible for politicizing nearly every agency of the federal government.
3. Alberto Gonzales — Fundamentally dishonest and woefully incompetent, Gonzales was involved in a series of scandals, first as White House counsel and then as Attorney General. Some of the most notable: pressuring a “feeble” and “barely articulate” Attorney General Ashcroft at his hospital bedside to sign off on Bush’s illegal wiretapping program; approving waterboarding and other torture techniques to be used against detainees; and leading the firing of U.S. Attorneys deemed not sufficiently loyal to Bush.4. Donald Rumsfeld — After winning praise for leading the U.S. effort in ousting the Taliban from Afghanistan in 2001, the former Defense Secretary strongly advocated for the invasion of Iraq and then grossly misjudged and mishandled its aftermath. Rumsfeld is also responsible for authorizing the use of torture against terror detainees in U.S. custody; according to a bipartisan Senate report, Rumsfeld “conveyed the message that physical pressures and degradation were appropriate treatment for detainees.”
5. Michael Brown — This former commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association was appointed by Bush to head FEMA in 2003. After Katrina made landfall as a Category 4 hurricane, Brownie promptly did a “heck of a job” bungling the government’s relief efforts, and was sent back to Washington a few days later. He was forced to resign shortly thereafter.
6. Paul Wolfowitz — As Deputy Secretary of Defense from 2001 to 2005, Wolfowitz was one of the primary architects of the
Iraq war, arguing for the invasion as early as Sept. 15, 2001. Testifying before Congress in February 2003, Wolfowitz said that it was “hard to conceive that it would take more forces to provide stability in post-SaddamIraq than it would take to conduct the war itself.” Wolfowitz eventually admitted that “for bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction,” as a justification for war, “because it was the one reason everyone [in the administration] could agree on.”7. David Addington — “Cheney’s Cheney” was the “most powerful man you’ve never heard of.” As the leader of Bush’s legal team and Cheney’s chief of staff, Addington was the biggest proponent of some of Bush’s most notorious legal abuses, such as torture and warrantless surveillance, and is a loyal follower of the so-called unitary executive theory.
8. Stephen Johnson — The “Alberto Gonzales of the environment,” EPA Administrator Johnson subverted the agency’s mission at the behest of the White House and corporate interests, suppressing staff recommendations on pesticides, mercury, lead paint, smog, and global warming.9. Douglas Feith — Undersecretary of Defense for Policy from 2001-2005, Feith headed up the notorious Office of Special Plans, an in-house Pentagon intelligence shop devised by Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz to produce intelligence to justify the invasion of Iraq. A subsequent investigation by the Pentagon’s Inspector General found the OSP’s work produced “conclusions that were not fully supported by the available intelligence.”
10. John Bolton — As Undersecretary of State, Bolton offered a strong voice in favor of invading Iraq and pushed for the U.S. to disengage from the International Criminal Court and key international arms control agreements. A recess appointment landed Bolton the job of U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, despite his stringent animosity toward the world body. Today, he spends his time calling for war with Iran.
11. John Yoo — As a lawyer for the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel, Yoo authored a series of legal memos giving military interrogators authority to use torture and coercive techniques when interviewing terrorist suspects. Yoo said that only those techniques that inflict pain equivalent to “death, organ failure or permanent damage resulting in a loss of significant body functions” constitute torture. Last year, he refused to answer whether or not the president could order a detainee to be buried alive.
12. Ari Fleischer — Bush’s first press secretary helped redefine the role as that of liar-in-chief rather than informer of the public, earning a reputation as “the world’s most dishonest flack.” Whereas his successors sometimes looked uncomfortable lying, Fleischer was having fun, spinning a cowed and gullible press corps through two massive tax cuts and the initiation of a war undertaken on false pretenses.
13. John Ashcroft — In 2003, as Bush’s first Attorney General, Ashcroft approved waterboarding and other torture techniques on detainees. Ashcroft’s nomination was controversial, as he had a history of opposing school desegregation. The chief architect of the invasive Patriot Act, Ashcroft maintains to this day that Bush is “among the most respectful of all leaders ever” of civil liberties.
14. Henry Paulson — Even as the financial system was crashing down around him, Treasury Secretary Paulson insisted for months that th
e banking system was “safe and sound.” Once he decided that the economy needed saving, Paulson requested nearly unfettered authority to send billions of taxpayer dollars to banks with no oversight.
15. L. Paul Bremer — This Presidential Medal of Freedom winner took over the Coalition Provisional Authority in May 2003. Under his mismanagement, the insurgency exploded in Iraq. Bremer claimed he had all the troops he needed to secure the country, overestimated the strength of the new U.S.-trained Iraqi army, disbanded the Iraqi army leaving thousands of Iraqi soldiers with no income and no occupation, and enacted a de-Baathification law that barred many experienced Iraqis from government positions. 16. Bradley Schlozman — As a recent DOJ Inspector General report demonstrates, Schlozman was a central figure in Bush’s politicization of the Justice Department. Violating civil service laws, Schlozman used political and ideological considerations to ensure that only “right-thinking Americans” received jobs. He eventually lied to Congress about his efforts.
17. J. Steven Griles — A former energy lobbyist and no. 2 official in the Interior Department, Griles went to jail for lying to Congress about illegal favors he did for corrupt lobbyist Jack Abramoff. Griles also abused his position “to unlock nearly every legal barrier to exploitation” of our nation’s oil and mineral reserves. Before his conviction, Griles left the White House to become a lobbyist for ConocoPhillips.
18. Condoleezza Rice — As Bush’s national security adviser, Rice was another strong advocate for invading Iraq, once famously warning that the U.S. should attack Iraq and not wait for solid proof of its WMD because “we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.” Rice also ignored an urgent warning from the CIA before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks that a strike inside the U.S. was imminent.
19. Scooter Libby — Cheney’s former chief of staff was a key player in the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame as part of the Bush administration’s quest to punish Plame’s husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, for publishing an op-ed debunking one of the White House’s main justifications for invading Iraq. Libby was ultimately convicted of perjury and obstructing justice in a federal investigation into Plame’s outing but later had his 30-month prison sentence commuted by Bush.
20. Monica Goodling — Goodling was the most notorious graduate of Pat Robertson’s Regent University during her tenure in the Justice Department. As the White House liaison at the DOJ, she based the department’s hiring of candidates on their sexual preference, GOP loyalty, and adherence to conservative ideology.
21. Alphonso Jackson — As Housing and Urban Development Secretary, Jackson let the U.S. housing market crumble while he was busy giving lucrative contracts to his golfing buddies, retaliating against Bush critics, and erecting giant photo homages to himself.22. Michael Hayden — As director of the National Security Agency, Hayden ran Bush’s warrantless wiretapping program and misled Congress about the program’s legality. After moving to the CIA, he dismissed the destruction of evidence implicating the CIA in torture as “in line with the law.”
23. Lurita Doan — The former head of the General Services Administration (GSA)who doled out a no-bid contract to a friend, Doan famously hosted a meeting of White House political operatives where she asked how GSA employees could “help ‘our candidates’ in the next election.” After the Office of Special Counsel called for her firing, she was forced to resign
24. Gale Norton — A former industry lobbyist and Bush’s first Secretary of the Interior, Norton pushed a radical ideological agenda “through regulatory rollbacks, suppression of science, preferential treatment, and collusion with industry” — including doctoring scientific findings on the impacts of oil drilling on caribou. After resigning under the cloud of ties to Jack Abramoff, she joined Shell Oil.
25. Lester Crawford — After promising to act on the morning-after contraceptive pill during his confirmation hearings, the former FDA Commissioner “indefinitely postponed nonprescription sales of emergency contraception over the objections of staff scientists who had declared the pill safe.” Crawford resigned after just two months on the job and later pleaded guilty “to charges that he hid his ownership of stock in food and drug companies that his agency regulated.”
26. Harriet Miers — Well-known for being Bush’s failed Supreme Court nominee, Miers also thought it was “important” to her as White House Counsel that Rove protege Tim Griffin was installed as a U.S. Attorney, making her a central figure in the U.S. Attorney scandal. She is said to have called Bush “the most brilliant man she had ever met.”27. Hans Von Spakovsky — Originally a political appointee in the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department, Spakovsky “injected partisan political factors into decision-making” and used every opportunity “to make it difficult for voters — poor, minority and Democratic — to go to the polls.” In 2008, Spakovsky withdrew his name from consideration for the FEC, following months of opposition from lawmakers and civil rights groups.
28. Tommy Franks — As head of U.S. Central Command from 2000 to 2003, Franks oversaw Osama bin Laden’s great escape from Afghanistan, gave orders for the stabilization of Iraq via PowerPoint, assumed that the U.S. would draw down to 25,000 troops by the end of 2004, and had American soldiers stand idly by as chaos and lawlessness took hold after the invasion.
29. Thomas Scully — As chief administrator for the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services, Scully was the White House’s head negotiator on the Medicare prescription drug bill. Scully threatened to fire chief actuary Richard Foster if he revealed that Bush’s Medicare Part D legislation “would cost 25% to 50% more than the Bush administration’s public estimates.”
30. Julie MacDonald — A top Interior Department appointee, MacDonald “interjected herself personally and profoundly” and “tainted nearly every decision made on the protection of endangered species” over a five-year period, intimidating the staff with “abrupt and abrasive, if not abusive” tactics. MacDonald also leaked government documents to a young acquaintance whom she met while playing “internet role-playing games.”
31. William Haynes — As the former general counsel at the Defense Department, he was part of a five-person team of high-level administration lawyers, dubbed the “War Council,” that tossed the Geneva Conventions aside and hatched out the legal framework for torture in secret meetings.
32. David Safavian — Safavian was (twice) tried and convicted for his role in the jack Abramoff scandal. Safavian was found guilty of “lying and obstructing justice” in an attempt to cover-up “his many efforts to assist Abramoff in acquiring two properties controlled by the GSA.”
33. James Connaughton — As chairman of the White House Council of Environmental Quality, Connaughton wrote EPA press releases downplaying the danger of the air quality in lower Manhattan following 9/11. “A former lobbyist for utilities, mining, chemical, and other industrial polluters,” Connaughton insisted “there’s a lot of disagreement” about humans’ impact on global warming, and he touted a bogus study purporting to show that the 20th century was not unusually warm.
34. William Luti — A former Navy officer and Cheney aide, Luti was dispatched to the Pentagon in 2001 to work underneath Feith to find “evidence” to support his boss’s belief in conspiracy theories linking Saddam to al Qaeda. Luti was an integral component of Cheney’s campaign to pressure intelligence professionals to conform their judgments to administration policy rather than reality.35. Susan Orr — As Assistant Deputy Secretary for Population Affairs, this former Family Research Council officialIt’s not a medical necessity that you have [contraception].”
36. Christopher Cox — Under Chairman Cox, the Securities and Exchange Commission censored internal reports showing that it ignored critical signs pointing to Wall Street’s meltdown. Cox’s SEC also failed to detect Bernie Madoff’s $50 billion Ponzi scheme, despite a decade of warnings.
37. Elliott Abrams — An Iran-Contra convict pardoned by Bush 41, Abrams was named by Bush 43 as the Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Democracy, Human Rights, and International Operations. As a founding Israel ’s 2006 bombing ofLebanon into Syria and advocated a Fatah coup after Hamas won the February 2006 Palestinian elections.38. Philip Cooney — A former oil lobbyist who served as chief of staff of the White House Council on Environmental Quality, Cooney doctored climate reports to “soften” words and phrases linking greenhouse gas emissions to global warming. After his political interference was revealed, Cooney left the White House to become a lobbyist for Exxon.
39. Colin Powell — Though Bush called him “an American hero” when he appointed him to be the first African-American Secretary of State, Powell placed an ugly “blot” on his record when he pushed the Bush administration’s faulty case for the Iraq war in a speech to the U.N. on Feb.5, 2003, using inaccurate information. Liberal hawks and the media rallied around Powell’s false case, calling it the “winning hand” for war.
40. Elaine Chao — The Labor Secretary made it through all eight years of the Bush administration, driving morale at the Labor Department so low that staffers threw a “good-riddance party” to cheer her departure. She leaves behind a “deeply troubled department” that “spent eight years attacking workers’ rights, strong workplace health and safety rules, and unions while they carried the water for Big Business.”
41. Julie Myers — After being hired as head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement based on little more than her personal connections, Myers made herself famous by awarding “Most Original Costume” to an employee who dressed up in blackface and a prison costume for Halloween. She was also heavily criticized for conducting politically-motivated immigration raids.
42. Wade Horn — As Assistant Secretary for Community Initiatives at the Department of Health and Human Services, Horn funneled millions of tax-payer dollars into right-wing abstinence-only programs. Shortly before he resigned, it was revealed that he had given nearly $1 million “to the National Fatherhood Initiative (NFI), where he was the president for at least three years until joining the Bush administration in 2001.”
43. George Deutsch — As a young, inexperienced press officer for NASA, Deutsch “told public affairs workers to limit reporters’ access to a top climate scientist and told a Web designer to add the word ‘theory’ at every mention of the Big Bang.” He resigned in 2006 after it was discovered he had lied on his resume, falsely claiming that he had a journalism degree from Texas A&M.
Dishonorable Mentions: Bush appointees who didn’t quite make the list included a child pornography aficionado, a patron of hookers, a shoplifter, a mail fraudster, an operator of an illegal horse gambling ring, and a CIA official who took bribes in the form of prostitutes.
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42 of them would make great cell mates for Bushie too(less Powell)!
January 17th, 2009 at 12:05 pmIsn’t it interesting that the Jews decide to stop murdering Palestinian refugees just as Bush begins to leave the White House?
January 17th, 2009 at 12:09 pmOk everyone chime in — Home, Home at the Hauge, where the neo-cons and criminals play…
January 17th, 2009 at 12:09 pmYou really could make this 433 or even 4,333. Without all the unknown sycophantic toadies doing the evil biddings of these asshats, you couldn’t have the horrible policies of this administration actually take place.
January 17th, 2009 at 12:14 pmBullshit bush didn’t need any help, he was a total failure when he went into office…Blessings
January 17th, 2009 at 12:15 pmAdditional honorable mentions, but the gifts that will just keep on giving for decades: John Roberts and Sam Alito.
January 17th, 2009 at 12:15 pmAh, a new thread without Sleezy, or any of the other dwarfs…
Unfortunately, it’s a Bush flashback. Living it once was more than enough…
Great compliation though, TP.
January 17th, 2009 at 12:22 pmLet us not forget turd polishing talk (hate) radio hosts like Limbaugh and Hannity, and just about every one at FOX ‘News’.
AIO
January 17th, 2009 at 12:25 pmWas this all a bad nightmare? Jesus! After the Dems win in 2006, I thought for sure they would have started impeachment hearings. I guess I will have to be satified with Obama’s Presidency and pray for an international tribunal, since nobody else seems to care.
January 17th, 2009 at 12:29 pmPresident-Elect Obama says it best: “Let’s build a government that is responsible to the people and accept our own responsibilities as citizens to hold our government accountable. … Let’s make sure this election is not the end of what we do to change America, but the beginning and the hope for the future.” Knowing that Mr. Obama will be at the helm of the Ship of State gives me the first real hope I’ve had since BushCo stole the 2000 election.
Mr. Obama–what would you think of adding a few more GENUINE, present-tense heroes to your staff? CAPTAIN “SULLY,” who landed his wounded airplane in the Hudson River; his crew; who overcame their own fears to help get EVERY SINGLE PASSENGER off safely; the ferry captains who responded instantly; the rescue crews, ditto; the ferry passengers who pitched right in and gave the coats off their backs to rescued survivors; the rescued passengers who are singing paeans of praise rather than threats of lawsuits—all of these folks combined produced a magnificent expression of what America is really “about.” [In NO way am I skipping God's powers!] Citizens such as these would be powerful additions to what looks like an already powerful staff. Any way to invite some of them to the Inauguration? All of them are superb antidotes to the ill-feelings among the electorate AND in the world’s eye. “Sully in 2016!”
January 17th, 2009 at 12:40 pmI know the manure was well spread around all the fed depts., but notice how damned many of these SOBs are in BushCo’s Dept. of Just Us. Rotting out DoJ from top to bottom enabled the rotting out of all else.
Don’t get me started on the USA firing scandal, Schlozman, or Addington & Yoo- I’m out of blood pressure meds.
January 17th, 2009 at 12:55 pmHow can TP forget Homeland Security Adviser Frances Townsend? Rather than help manage the crisis, Fran flew to Saudi Arabia to deliver a letter on terrorism. When she got back, Fran produced the sorriest investigation report.
Who leaves out the hospital with the highest patient death toll? Unless they’re covering for Bush’s corporate friends, LifeCare/Carlyle Group and Tenet Health, where brother Jeb landed on the board.
When Congress asked questions, Andy Card and Fran refused to share their e-mails on their Katrina response.
You missed one!
January 17th, 2009 at 1:07 pmThey should all be handcuffed and frogmarched to the nearest jail to wait for the War Crimes Trial.
January 17th, 2009 at 1:09 pmHey TP how about a post on the the top democrats who helped make the Bush administration the worst ever , I’d like to nominate Nancy no impeachment Pelosi and Harry I co sponsored a bill I knew couldn’t pass to strip retroactive immunity from FISA after I attempted to pass one with immunity as the congress left on recess only months earlier Reid.
January 17th, 2009 at 1:12 pmWhere’s Joe Liebermans name ?
January 17th, 2009 at 1:13 pmYou could probably make another list of the hundreds of unknown appointees further down the food chain undermining the regulatory agencies. It will take years to sort out all of the damage they have done and to bring their names to light.
Part of the text appears to be missing from the Susan Orr and Elliot Abrams entries.
January 17th, 2009 at 1:15 pmSoD #12
January 17th, 2009 at 1:21 pmFrances Townsend is now an “analyst” for CNN!!!
What were we saying earlier about the news media today…..
Lets not forget that Bush was also an appointee … by states rights advocates on the Supreme court .
January 17th, 2009 at 1:24 pmAs of tommorrow …..Gone but not forgotten !
January 17th, 2009 at 1:27 pmUm, I think you’ve missed the real enablers in this disastrous administration: The United States Supreme Court, 2000.
Add in Katherine Harris for the much-needed assist in 2000, and Ken Blackwell with a little back room help from Diebold in 2004.
Just two more days, folks. Just two more days.
PEACE
January 17th, 2009 at 1:27 pmOh and how about the newsman who called florida for Gore in error hours before the polls closed in 2000.
January 17th, 2009 at 1:30 pmSince we are going backwards and in commemmoration of our 1st black president’s impending inauguration allow me to repost this on the appointees on the supreme court who should be on this list from 1890….
Between 1890 and 1910 there were 3o7 cases brought brought before the supreme court over the 14th amendment. 288 of these were filed by corporations claiming their rights as persons were being violated under the amendment , 19 by African Americans .
The Supreme Court has cited the 14th amendment ten times as often to support the rights of corporations, than to support the rights of individuals.
The 14th amendment which granted Blacks the rightsof citizens was used to grant an entity which can clone itself , live 100’s of years , be worth billions and can be in several places at once the rights of a person under US law ?
January 17th, 2009 at 1:38 pmMy bad.
January 17th, 2009 at 1:39 pmWill our next president turn out to be a Black citizen or the living embodiment of corporate America ?…..stay tuned .
January 17th, 2009 at 1:42 pmThe people on this list were supposed to be public servants. They justify their employment by saying that they “serve at the pleasure of the president.” What they fail to understand is that they were supposed to “serve the people of the United States at the pleasure of the president”, not the president himself.
January 17th, 2009 at 1:50 pmHere’s a glad you’re gone and a final “f uck you” to George W. Bush.
January 17th, 2009 at 1:51 pmAlong with the Dem enablers, there should also be an accounting of the media enablers (a joint effort with Media Matters seems obvious) with regard not only to their general acquiescence ( NYT for example) or outright promotion of propaganda (FOX obviously) but their relative influence.
For example Bill Kristol’s magazine’s circulation is pitiful but he had regular access to the White House and was far more than a ‘guest’ on Fox–he practically lived there, ‘informing’ millions beyond the reach of his professional circle or his fish-wrapper. Much the same goes for Krauthammer.
And I’d add the Heritage Foundation, the AEI, and the FRC and the AFA.
January 17th, 2009 at 1:55 pmGosh there are so many that should be on this list, but I’d certainly put Condi Rice’s name on there ….
January 17th, 2009 at 2:20 pmOh never mind, I overlooked her.
:-)
January 17th, 2009 at 2:20 pmThe MSM should be listed for enabling this moron for 8 years.
January 17th, 2009 at 2:23 pmWhat about Goerge Tenant, Bush’s CIA Director that sat behind Collin Powell during the U.N. speech. After all Powell said he wouldn’t make the speach unless Tenant sat next to him. I think the list should be shown as a timeline, showing how every individual contributed to the collapse of America. It can all be summed up to show how corporations, military industrial complex and religion, took america from respectable and admired to feared and loathed.
January 17th, 2009 at 2:25 pm“Fundamentally dishonest and woefully incompetent” sums up the entire Bush administration over the past 8 years.
It’s mind boggling to see the depth of corruption, top-down directed politicization, undermining of human rights, science, technology, and the environment in the process. Only Hitler and his minions comes to mind as a comparison.
January 17th, 2009 at 2:26 pmWhat a disgusting crowd — the list. ;)
It would be fair and sensible that none of these people would ever be hired for another job, or allowed in polite society, but they will not suffer as they have made this country suffer…
January 17th, 2009 at 2:35 pmshaker o salt Says:
“Fundamentally dishonest and woefully incompetent” sums up the entire Bush administration over the past 8 years.
Another appropriate phrase would be the one the judge used to describe Fox News Channel’s lawsuit to stop Al Franken’s book from being published with photos of Bill O’Reilly on the cover, “Wholly without merit.”
January 17th, 2009 at 2:36 pmWhere is Chertoff? He is every bit as responsible for Katrina as Brown. Brown wasn’t all that evil, mostly stupid, and should be much lower on the list than #5. The top of the list should be reserved exclusively for war criminals and torturers.
White House Science Advisor John Marburger belongs on this list also.
January 17th, 2009 at 2:46 pmWith regards to the “Rush to War” in Iraq, I would add to the list of Enablers….
Collin Powell…who WAS probably the Most Trusted and Respected Person in America….and used his personal Integrety to Scare the Country into a Hasty and poorly planned fiasco in Iraq.
Tony Blair….who translated Bush’s Inarticulate Pronouncements into ENGLISH.
January 17th, 2009 at 2:50 pmPowell is #39 on the list.
January 17th, 2009 at 2:57 pmDon’t forget that Bush tried to appoint Kenneth Lay to represent the United States in the World Trade Organization. “Kenny Boy” would have been appointed but the Enron Scandal was just starting to unfold.
Almost 100 former Enron executives ended up serving in the Bush administration.
January 17th, 2009 at 2:57 pmAnd how could we forget about this guy? Just when we got rid of Bush, good ol’ Mr. Starr makes his comeback!
Read below:
http://www.broowaha.com/article.php?id=4468
January 17th, 2009 at 3:03 pmOmitted from the list: Michael Mukasey, Karen Hughes, Mary Matalin, Kinda Sleeza Rice, Chertoff, Joe Lieberman, Rice’s deputy at State (whose name I can’t think of), it would be easy to get this list to 100 if you really think about this crowd–I just hope we never have to hear their names again.
January 17th, 2009 at 3:15 pmThere are some pretty impressive names left off of this list. Names like John Yoo, Scooter Libby, Cox at SEC, Stephen Hadley, Harriet Meiers, Paul Bremer, even Condi Rice. Given time, I am sure I can come up with more names for this list.
January 17th, 2009 at 3:24 pmColin Powell should be much higher on the list.
While lying to the U.N. may not seem as great a transgression as those committed by the rest of Bush’s stooges, his international reputation helped sell the notion of Iraq’s having WMD.
Most of the people on the list are delusional stooges, having spent a lifetime swilling the neoconservative koolaid. Powell knew better.
January 17th, 2009 at 3:26 pmIt says something about how toxic Cheney has been that Karl Rove is only number two.
January 17th, 2009 at 3:31 pm“Black and Bitter” John Tanner…remember hearing this pile of crap speak? Typical holier-than-thou, lie at all cost, poser. Some guys should be smacked out of office, not asked to leave.
January 17th, 2009 at 3:35 pmAn amazing list, hopefully never to be forgotten. We must all save this as Bush & Co. try to rewrite history & claim that they were all so wonderful. Many of these people need to be arrested & tried; the others need to be confronted on their lies at every opportunity.
January 17th, 2009 at 3:39 pmQuite the rogues gallery. Funny to how few wingnuts want to “own” them. They were either so corrupt or so lawless that there is no redemption through spin for them. O think the rehab of the Bush name is to be measured in millenium, not decades…
January 17th, 2009 at 3:45 pmglezzery Says:
January 17th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Are the RedState and FreeRepublic sites down or something?
If you don’t like it here, you are welcome to leave and not come back. I promise, we won’t complain too much if you go.
January 17th, 2009 at 4:31 pmHi glezzary
January 17th, 2009 at 4:33 pmNo. Well I know I don’t but sometimes it seems I live in a Vonnegut novel. What author’s books do you reside in?
You might want to read up on the Constitution. Dick Cheney was not appointed Vice-President. In any event, a number of Democrats voted for the appointments requiring senatorial consent. Doesn’t that make them complicit?
January 17th, 2009 at 4:35 pmThat political castaway site is really in need of some help. The average 10th grader could spruce it up a bit. Visually it is in need of serious hlp. Intellectually well…
January 17th, 2009 at 4:39 pmglezzary:
January 17th, 2009 at 4:41 pmTo what do you attribute this alledged lameness and sleepiness?
I see TP is still getting their trolls at the Dollar Store.
January 17th, 2009 at 4:41 pmNot after Tuesday.
Why does glezzery sound like something you’d put on hemorrhoids?
January 17th, 2009 at 4:47 pmIt’s simple question. Is it not true that Cheney was not appointed?
January 17th, 2009 at 4:47 pmglezzery Says:
HAHA!! Congress voted on EVERYTHING!
Not one cent has gone to anything without a vote by Congress.
Not true. Bush diverted $700 million that Congress specified be used for fighting the war in Afghanistan, and used it to begin planning the invasion of Iraq more than a year before we went in. One of several reasons the war in Iraq was illegally waged.
January 17th, 2009 at 4:51 pmHythloday Says:
It’s simple question. Is it not true that Cheney was not appointed?
January 17th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
At this point, I don’t give a shit either way.
January 17th, 2009 at 4:54 pmCheney was selected by Bush to be his running mate (actually, he was selected by himself, but still Bush accepted his self-appointment). The choice of a vice-president is as much of an appointment as any other member of the executive branch. In case you haven’t noticed, you can’t vote for a vice-president separately from your vote for president. Only the Electors of the Electoral College get to vote separately for president and vice-president in accordance with the Twelfth Amendment.
January 17th, 2009 at 4:56 pmHythloday Says:
It’s simple question. Is it not true that Cheney was not appointed?
Well, with that double negative in there, no it isn’t a simple question.
BTW, Cheney was appointed – by himself. Bush asked him to head up the vice presidential nominee committee, and he ended up recommending himself. And we can all see how disatrous that turned out to be.
January 17th, 2009 at 4:57 pmglezzery:
January 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pmDid your secret decoder ring arrive after 6 to 8 weeks?
Please see # 59?
I think we can all agree that we have “glezzery” pegged — it ain’t hard…
January 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pmglezzery,
If you think the invasion of Iraq was perfectly legal, you are seriously misinformed. Why don’t you take a look at the other threads where we had to explain that to your fellow trolls.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:02 pmHere’s hoping Hythloday admonishes us again to consider how difficult it is to know another’s state of mind.
I always enjoy that.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:02 pmWayne,
glez isn’t interested in educating himself — but it’s cool that you give him the benefit of the doubt. ;)
January 17th, 2009 at 5:03 pmWhat happens to the liberal outhouse of catharsis when Obama takes office on Tuesday?
January 17th, 2009 at 5:09 pmglezzery Says:
It might occur to some that Bush’s foreign policy is liberal.
More liberal than Wilson’s or FDR’s.
Not conservative in the classic sense.
In order for progressives not to admit to themselves they are not liberal, they made up the term NEOCON which is code for Jewish and liberal foreign policy, and then used to demonize.
The real truth is Progressives are not liberal nor are they democratic.
January 17th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Total nonsense. Neocons are mentally ill people, and liberals would never agree with their plans for world domination and death to all enemies. And they call themselves neo-conservatives. We didn’t make that term up.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:09 pmWell it is not trolls need to be convinced of this BS.
A court maybe?
There is NO serious argument Iraq is/was illegal.
Ask the former Secretary General of the U.N., Kofi Annan. He’ll tell you the invasion violated theh charter of the UN.
And since we have an agreement and relationship with the DEMOCRATICALLY elected sovereign Iraqi government, the whole point is mega-dumb.
Strike that, Astronomically STUPID.
So, you believe the ends justify the means? That pretty inhuman.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:14 pmno, glezzery, you have it all wrong. Liberals are open to all opinions and ideas.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:15 pmglezzery:
January 17th, 2009 at 5:16 pmYou criticize arguments yet avoid those which you seem unprepared and/or unable to handle? What is up with that? So about # 59?
“Educate me with your nonsense” hardly seems like a mind able to reflect upon varied views. So you come to places like this to somehow validate yourself image?
January 17th, 2009 at 5:18 pmThis is too funny — glez kicking his own ass — AGAIN. :-D
January 17th, 2009 at 5:19 pmI won’t even comment on the the rebundant use of the middle school LMAO thing. Still when you are ready let me know. Maybe we can invite John Kerry…
January 17th, 2009 at 5:23 pmglez – I am on your side. See comment 76.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:23 pmWrong. Glez doesn’t have an ass to kick — he laughed it off 30 comments ago.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:25 pmHythloday Says:
glez – I am on your side. See comment 76.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I’m glad you pointed that out — glez wouldn’t have spotted it.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:26 pmglezzery is just being contrarian. All he does is call what we say ridiculous and laughable.
So, glez, you think the former SecGen of the UN is crazy? Or do you think he might have a better understanding of the UN than you?
January 17th, 2009 at 5:30 pmTo make them worse?
January 17th, 2009 at 5:37 pmIs it just me or is Hythloday crying out for attention? Seems they want to be glezzery (and probably are)
January 17th, 2009 at 5:44 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
Reich-wingers hate…
January 17th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
You had it right, Dr Matt. ;)
January 17th, 2009 at 5:45 pmZooey Says:
I see TP is still getting their trolls at the Dollar Store.
By the dozen, at that.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:45 pmdb,
All trolls are the same troll.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:45 pmell they all share the same brain any way.
January 17th, 2009 at 5:51 pmglezzery, I asked you…
So, glez, you think the former SecGen of the UN is crazy? Or do you think he might have a better understanding of the UN than you?
January 17th, 2009 at 5:54 pmHmmm…. did someone say “Laughable. Ad hominem attacks disguised as ideas”?
Oh, yeah:
I thought so.
Zoo, is this what you mean by “kicking one’s own ass”? It’s a great illustration of the phenomenon.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:01 pmPelosi and Co. are competent to run the entire health Care economy! LMAO!
We never claimed that, and we didn’t choose her to be Speaker of the House. The Democrats in the House did that.
You need to stop thinking that all liberals think alike. I know many conservatives think alike, but that’s because they don’t like to think.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:01 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Zoo, is this what you mean by “kicking one’s own ass”? It’s a great illustration of the phenomenon.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
That would be it, ralph. :)
January 17th, 2009 at 6:05 pmHythloday Says:
It’s simple question. Is it not true that Cheney was not appointed?
January 17th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
For Pete’s sake! BUSH chose, selected, agreed to, had, accommodated, o.k.ed, handed, the VP position to Cheney. The question of whether he was appointed is so moot. Is that all you can find to challenge the names on the list?
January 17th, 2009 at 6:14 pmZooey,
Why won’t glez answer my question about Kofi Annan, and his assertion that the invasion of Iraq violated the UN Charter (and was, therefore, illegal)? Did I offend him? He seemed so convinced that I didn’t know what I was talking about.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:15 pmHave a litle compassion, gus.
Hythloday doesn’t have a lot to work with, being a conservative. He’s got to grab what’s within arm’s reach. If it stinks to high heaven, he’s just got to put up with the smell. Being a conservative, he’s learned to live with it.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pmWayne A. Schneider:
All I asked was what book glezzery imagined themselves living in. Well and some other stuff too over the last few days. Still no answer. I am not particularly suprised though.
glezzery:
January 17th, 2009 at 6:22 pmMight you comment on your lack of response to direct questioning?
Wayne A. Schneider Says:
Zooey,
Why won’t glez answer my question about Kofi Annan, and his assertion that the invasion of Iraq violated the UN Charter (and was, therefore, illegal)? Did I offend him? He seemed so convinced that I didn’t know what I was talking about.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
That would require actual thought, Wayne, and glez is only capable of parroting talking points. I’m afraid you will remain disappointed.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:25 pmHow about the Department of Interior officials in Denver who were in bed with (well, their prostitutes anyway) and drugged up by the people they were to regulate, BIG OIL!
January 17th, 2009 at 6:26 pmI’m afraid you will remain disappointed.
Only if I actually expected him to answer. ;)
I’m won’t call him a coward, but I have seen cowards do the exact same thing he did.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:26 pmralph the wonder llama – reading my mind I see?
But to bring this back to the issue of the post – the 43 worst appointments — If you accept the premise that he was appointed, it’s actually a circular argument.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:28 pmRegarding the question about Kofi Annan and his assertion that the invasion of Iraq violated the UN Charter — that is is also a circular argument. The only way the argument works is if you accept the premise that Annan’s interpretation is correct. If not, the statement that the Iraq violated the UN charge must be proved independently.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:31 pmMan that site is primitive…
January 17th, 2009 at 6:33 pmI think if Holder wanted to, he could put forty three bushies from DOJ in jail without loosening his collar. bushco did one thing, by their atrocious performance, ended all argument on free market. Unregulated free markets are a polite name for piracy. Those that parrot the need for deregulation of markets are cynical thieves and liars.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:34 pmectoendomezo Says:
2.) Until Americans begin to..actually LISTEN..and…unfortunately..REASON..which may be an impossibility after No Child Left Behind..as ‘Reason’ requires MORE than ‘Fill In The Oval’..anyway..until such time..here is, in my humble opinion…THE statement to explain the FAILING of the American Collective Conscious..
“How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think.” – Adolph Hitler
January 17th, 2009 at 6:36 pmHythloday Says:
Regarding the question about Kofi Annan and his assertion that the invasion of Iraq violated the UN Charter — that is is also a circular argument. The only way the argument works is if you accept the premise that Annan’s interpretation is correct. If not, the statement that the Iraq violated the UN charge must be proved independently.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
I’m sorry, but that was a stupid response. What reason can you give that the UN Secretary General’s interpretation of the UN Charter would be less correct than your own? I mean, he was actually in the UN at the time the vote was taken. Were you? Didn’t think so.
My argument stands. The War in Iraq was illegal, and the word of the then-UN Secretary General is good enough to prove that.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:44 pmWayne –
You said “There is NO serious argument Iraq is/was illegal.” you based that conclusion by saying we should
“Ask the former Secretary General of the U.N., Kofi Annan. He’ll tell you the invasion violated theh charter of the UN.”
His saying it violated the charter does not make it illegal unless he has the final say on charter interpretation, which he does not. So your premise and conclusion each rely on each other for support, making the argument circular and thus fallacious.
January 17th, 2009 at 6:58 pmI find it very interesting that Republicans always say the word “liberal” as if it were a dirty word…..if they bothered to find out what it really meant (a person who believes and acts in accordance with our country’s “Bill Of Rights”), they’d be flocking to microphones to call themselves and their cronies the only people who could truly be called “liberals”….all politicians lie, it just seems the right wing nut jobs do it more often with worse consequences for this country of ours…..
and glez….you obviously haven’t been living in the US for a long time…or the last eight years of infamous insanity has made you seriously deranged….
January 17th, 2009 at 7:15 pmHythloday Says:
ralph the wonder llama – reading my mind I see?
Not at all. Just commenting on past behavior. I recall you making just this point –how difficult it is to know another’s mind — in a thread several days ago and noted it If you’ll read my comment carefully, I in no way suggested that I know your mind, just that I’m familiar with your patterns of behavior. To try to claim that this is the same thing as “reading your mind” is rather sophistic, don’t you agree?
At the time, I pointed out how you were eager to have us keep that in mind, yet you made several comments (including your own profile on your website to which your name is linked) that seemed to imply the kind of knowledge you say is so difficult to achieve.
January 17th, 2009 at 7:20 pmHythloday likes to dismiss things by calling them “circular arguments”.
I don’t think that phrase means what he thinks it means.
January 17th, 2009 at 7:21 pmhttp://www.forusa.org/fellowship/nov-dec_02/sixarguments-zunes.html
January 17th, 2009 at 7:24 pmManfully conceded, sir.
January 17th, 2009 at 7:35 pmIn fact, Hythloday, it was your cohort glezzery who claimed “There is NO serious argument Iraq is/was illegal.” See comment at 5:08.
At the very least, Wayne has demonstrated that there IS a serious argument that the invasion was illegal.
You’re trying to argue against him, using a statement you’ve attributed to him that actually came from someone on your own team.
Innocent mistake, we understand.
January 17th, 2009 at 7:35 pmGood thing glezzery doesn’t engage in ad hominem attacks.
Such a thing could seriously weaken his arguments.
January 17th, 2009 at 7:37 pmglezzery Says:
I have witnesses 8 years of this sort of unintelligent nihilism!
January 17th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
You embody it. You live it. You are an imbecile.
But you knew that…
January 17th, 2009 at 7:43 pmLikewise, I don’t think glezzery understands what the term “vast majority” means.
For instance, in a 2007 poll, respondents were asked whether their country should be “more willing to make decisions within the United Nations” when dealing with international problems, even if this means that their country “will sometimes have to go along with a policy that is not its first choice.”
Seems like people who were convinced that the UN is “a joke” would disagree with that statement, right?
60% of respondents in the US agreed with it. Only 37% disagreed.
Palestinians disagreed by a margin of 81% to 15%.
glezzy, are you siding with the Palestinians? I would have thought you were a serious Israel-Firster.
January 17th, 2009 at 7:48 pmBut glezzy, whenever we try to talk about reality, you never seem to be able to recognize it.
But at least you don’t base your arguments on ad hominem attacks. that would be childish.
January 17th, 2009 at 7:50 pmWhich is exactly why I noted the percentage of Americans who agreed with the statement.
Did you skip over that part, glezzy?
If you did, it was 60% of AMERICANS who agreed with the statement. What exactly constitutes a “vast majority” in your world? And what color is the sky there?
January 17th, 2009 at 7:52 pmYour back must get tired from moving those goal posts all the time. the claim was that the invasion was illegal, not a prediction that anyone would prosecute.
Again, good thing you don’t engage in ad hominem attacks. It would make you look silly, especially after criticizing others for that offense.
January 17th, 2009 at 7:55 pmI haven’t done the research – I’m hoping someone else has it. But is this also the most scandal-infested administration ever? Has there ever been this many people who have been forced to resign, charged with crimes, improper behavior or working more on the behalf of the party than for the people?
This is truly the Wall of Shame
January 17th, 2009 at 7:59 pmUm… glezzy…? I was pointing out that you and the Palestinians share a rather unfavorable view of the UN.
Let’s get back to basics.
You made a rather bold claim that “the vast majority in America thinks the UN is a joke!”
I offered some solid empirical evidence that your claim is mistaken.
I also added an observation that among those who share your decidedly minority opinion in this poll are a people for whom you have nothing but disdain, even hatred.
Perhaps I shouldn’t have added that, as it is just one more shiny thing to distract you. I’ll have to learn to keep my comments simple and to the point if I want to get anything across to you.
January 17th, 2009 at 7:59 pmralph at 126 – fair point on the attribution, but had Wayne made the statement I inadvertantly attributed to him, it would have fallen squarely within the fallacy because he would have been attempting to prove a statement (the war was illegal) based on a fact (Annan says the charter was violated) that relies on the statement that he was trying to prove.
I appreciate your willingness to engage in a somewhat civil conversation. Others who start out saying an argument is stupid don’t help advance the argument.
January 17th, 2009 at 8:01 pmThanks for the back-up, glezzy. When are you going to provide evidence for YOUR side of the argument?
January 17th, 2009 at 8:01 pmI hope glezzie is gentler on his guitar than he is on his own ass.
Sad case…
January 17th, 2009 at 8:05 pmI don’t see how you get your claim of a “circular argument” from Wayne’s citation of Kofi Annan as a credible authority on the question.
Annan’s staement that the UN charter was violated does not rely on the statement Wayne was trying to prove (that the invasion was illegal). It relies on Annan’s understanding of the charter as it relates to the situation.
It is in fact supporting evidence for Wayne’s claim.
Wayne’s conclusion is that the invasion was illegal. This statement is not embedded in the premise of the question.
The premise is that a nation that invades another in violation of the provisions of the UN charter is guilty of an illegal act. Both Wayne and Kofi Annan base their conclusions on their reading of that premise.
What do you see as the premise that includes on Wayne’s conclusion?
January 17th, 2009 at 8:10 pmglezzie,
It’s called psychological projection. You can look it up later.
January 17th, 2009 at 8:10 pmglezzy, you still haven’t offered any evidence that “the vast majority of Americans think the UN is a joke!”
Being dissatisfied with its performance is not the same thing, when 60% “believe the United Nations should be stronger and that it plays a necessary role in the world.”
Is that all ya got?
…Seriously?
January 17th, 2009 at 8:12 pmHe can, but he won’t.
January 17th, 2009 at 8:12 pmGood thing glezzy doesn’t engage in ad hominem attacks.
I guess only libtards do that, right, glezzy?
January 17th, 2009 at 8:14 pm“Guitar practice”? Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
I believe Daryll refers to it as “shaking the devil off”.
ah, well. it’s harmless fun I suppose. Enjoy, glezzy!
January 17th, 2009 at 8:19 pmRalph at 160. Good one. Also known as roughing up the suspect. Gotta run for now (not guitar lessons) and will get back to you on the logical fallacy discussion later.
January 17th, 2009 at 8:26 pmralph, Thanks, buddy. I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who had a problem with his use of logic. Your an-, um, summary, of the argument was spot on. Thanks. I thought I had found sufficent proof to back up my claims. I didn’t know that a lunatic would see confirmation of my point as “circular reasoning.” Circular reasoning is claiming that God exists, and the “evidence” is all the miraculous things you see around you that no one can explain otherwise because our level of scientific understanding isn’t advanced enough. That’s circular reasoning.
January 17th, 2009 at 8:43 pmglezzery Says:
Bush prosecuted the breaking of the UN’s approved ceasefire.
Saddam didn’t break a ceasefire.
Iraq failed to prove to Bush’s satisfaction that it didn’t have WMD’s, although IAEA nuclear inspectors issued a report stating that it was extremely unlikely that any such existed.
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glezzery Says:
ANY member nation is allowed to enforce international law and don’t need additional votes from the UN to make it legal!
The language in the UN resolution involved did not authorize any nation to attack Iraq to enforce it.
Claiming that all U.N. resolutions are enforcable by any member state is like saying that if somebody in a classroom breaks a rule set by the teacher then you get to beat them up. You don’t; that would be breaking another rule.
Are you just making things up in the magical world of your imagination, or is someone actually telling you this stuff?
January 17th, 2009 at 8:44 pmThe pension money from the U.S. government to George W. Bush and other expenses paid for by the U.S. government on behalf of Bush are a waste of the money of taxpayers.
Taxpayer money would be wisely spent on maintaining Bush in a prison or an insane asylum.
It is wonderful that Bush’s secret service protection will be gone ten years after Bush leaves office. This will save some taxpayer money.
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January 18th, 2009 at 12:51 amWhat shall we call them?
How about the Danbury Gang? Hope springs eternal.
Oh yeah and Addington should be up under the Dick at #2. His indictment will arrive by summer.
January 18th, 2009 at 9:35 amWith a list like this one could guess it will be SRO at the Hague. I sort of hope we beat them to it.
I’m thinking the motto for this little club is ’tis better to sit at the right hand of Satan than in his path’. Of course we all know what happens to guys like Benny.
January 18th, 2009 at 11:42 amWait a minute….Cheney is at the top of the list. Didn’t Cheney appoint himself????
There are so many more to add, but I’ll add this one: Doctor David Hager. Bush appointed him to the Advisory Committee for Reproductive Health Drugs for the FDA.
The guy has been divorced twice….both wives claim sexual misconduct. His first wife claims he anally raped her while asleep.
He’s a religious nut who advocated prayer and certain scripture readings to solve headaches and prementrual syndrome problems.
2 more days before this national nightmare comes to an end….but, unfortunately, I think we’ll be living with the devastation Bush has wrought for years to come.
January 18th, 2009 at 2:09 pmAmazing blog and breakdown of Bush appointees.
The upshot of our last years is that we are left in a climate of fear with a political and economic system that the general public can’t trust.
To that end I’ve written a novel called “Death Wave”. The story unravels in present time and is a free ebook/audiobook.
http://www.kafilmworks.com/deathwave/
January 18th, 2009 at 3:03 pmJim Nicholson of the VA should be on this list, I think he’s a top tener!
What was Cheney appointed too?
January 18th, 2009 at 4:01 pm<I think the list is GREAT. Yeah, there should be more, but it’s a good start. I felt like I was reading about the NAZIS war crimes trials, for a minute there. There was a lot of stuff I didn’t know about. I printed it and plan on studying the atrocities to the names. Hopefully, there will be litigation against these people. Where is a special prosecutor when you need one? Which leads me to think, how come Clinton had one? Basically, the worst they found was he lied about the BJ. 99% of men do lie about their indescretions. I feel that it was a non-issue. Especially, now in comparison to the Bushregime for the past 8 years.
January 18th, 2009 at 8:28 pmglezzery Says:
You are ignorant glezzo. Since we KNOW Saddam did not have WMDs how did HE cause anything? Where did he violate any agreement? Even if he DID. The SECURITY COUNSEL would make any determinations as 1441 CLEARLY said. You rightwing morons just think anything becomes true if you say it no matter how STUPID it is. Bush violated the UN Charter clear as day. If the Nuremberg precedent were applied he would be hanged. YOUR stupidity changes this IN NO WAY.
January 18th, 2009 at 10:12 pmglezzery Says:
Kofi Annan didn’t know what the hell he was talking about.
January 18th, 2009 at 10:13 pmHe was too busy raking in profits from the Palaces for Food program!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You are a liar and a fool. The Volker investigation said the EXACT OPPOSITE. Whatever rightwing screechmonkey that does your thinking for you LIED when he programmed you with that one.
glezzery Says:
If you think the UN or Democrats are going to prosecute Bush for Iraq, you are a fool!
A fool! A foolish person who lives in a bubble.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
While you should be an expert on fools what with you living your life as, well, YOU. I am afraid your inherent moronity precludes you having any credibility on this subject. You are too stupid to be taken seriously.
January 18th, 2009 at 10:14 pmEugeneDebs Says:
If the Nuremberg precedent were applied he would be hanged.
To be fair, the real Nuremberg precedent was whatever the winners say, goes. But I take your point.
January 19th, 2009 at 12:36 amElBruce
MAYBE but not according to OUR Judge at the trials
http://www.roberthjackson.org/Man/theman2-7-8-1/
We must never forget that the record on which we judge these defendants today is the record on which history will judge us tomorrow. To pass these defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our own lips as well. We must summon such detachment and intellectual integrity to our task that this Trial will commend itself to posterity as fulfilling humanity’s aspirations to do justice.
Not that you are wrong but that it WASNT supposed to be that way
January 19th, 2009 at 12:52 amWhat about the female head of the Consumer Products Safety Commission (name escapes me) who said that her agency didn’t need any more money from Congress? Of course they didn’t since Repugs don’t believe in having government protect its citizens. Disgusting…Instead, we should let children eat tainted toys from China.
January 19th, 2009 at 2:56 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mNDHTfdn1A
This little ditty from “The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas” sums up the motivations, actions, and abnegation of responsibility demonstrated by BushCo.
January 19th, 2009 at 4:30 pmSorry about the extra underline in 179–my bad.
January 19th, 2009 at 4:30 pm*cough* ahem,excuse,sir, but Ido not belive the list is complete until the names Roberts and Alito are at the top.
January 19th, 2009 at 9:09 pmI would add two more: Chairman Robert J. Battista and Member Peter C. Schaumber of the National Labor Relations Board. They have done more to set back the cause of workers’ rights than any other Members of the NLRB in its 74 year history.
January 19th, 2009 at 11:39 pmhe would have been attempting to prove a statement (the war was illegal) based on a fact (Annan sayssohbet the charter was violated) that relies on the statement that he was trying to pbedava mp3 indirrove.We must summon such detaccethment and intellectual integrity to our task.
March 1st, 2009 at 11:48 amDon’t forget that Bush tried to appoint Kenneth Lay to represent müzik dinle the United States in the World Trade Organization. mp3 dinle “Kenny Boy” would have been appointed but the Enron Scandal was just starting to unfold.canli sohbet
April 13th, 2009 at 9:38 pm