Beck Outraged At Inauguration Benediction, Accuses Rev. Lowery Of Calling America ‘Racist’
Beck Outraged At Inauguration Benediction, Accuses Rev. Lowery Of Calling America ‘Racist’
Yesterday, civil rights leader Rev. Joseph Lowery delivered the benediction at President Obama’s inauguration. At the end of the prayer, Lowery offered a light-hearted approach to a hopeful future absent of racial bigotry:
LOWERY: Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man, and when white will embrace what is right.
Right-wing talker Glenn Beck found Lowery’s blessing way too much to handle, however. On his new Fox News show yesterday, Beck compared Lowery to Rev. Jeremiah Wright, accused him of calling all of America “racist,” and asked, “Can you imagine anyone else saying something like that!?” Seeming to take personal offense at Lowry’s benediction closing, Beck made sure to inform his viewers that he doesn’t “hate minorities.”
He then chastised Obama, saying he “was shocked” that Obama “actually smiled when he said this and shook your head.” Watch it:
Later in the program, now Fox News political analyst Brit Hume said that, even though he wasn’t “greatly offended by it,” Lowery’s benediction “was a slightly discord in note.” Hume then suggested that Lowry might make some changes to incorporate Beck’s outrage if he had to do it again:
HUME: Well, it was little — I thought it was a slightly discord in note at the end of the prayer which was really pretty, if you will, mellow. And in some ways, you know, the colloquialism of it, you know, the rhyming of it, I think, suggested that, you know, he needed to find words that rhymed. I wasn’t greatly offended by it. I suppose if, you know, he had it to do over again, he might beware of the implications that you suggested.
Some right-wing blogs even joined in, calling Lowery’s prayer “divisive” and “overcome by racist hate.” Speaking of Lowery’s benediction, Beck asked with exasperation: “Is this how the post-racial Obama administration begins?” Indeed, it doesn’t appear that Beck is off to a good start.
Transcript:
BECK: In the days leading up to the speech, some claimed that, on the left, that there would be division caused by the right, coming from that evil minister of hate, the Oprah Book Club author, Rick Warren. His crime, he agrees, apparently, with much of Obama’s platform on gay marriage. What bigotry there.
However, it was another minister, Reverend Joseph Lowery, who used his benediction at the end of the inauguration ceremony to ask God for this .
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
REV. JOSEPH LOWERY, MINISTER, UNITED METHODIST CHURCH: We ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man, and when the white will embrace what is right.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BECK: Good thing Barack Obama distanced himself from Jeremiah Wright.
Is this how the post-racial Obama administration begins? I mean, I understand that he’s an older gentleman and that’s fine, but really, “someday, brown can stick around, the yellow man can remain mellow, and white will embrace what’s right”? Can you imagine anyone else saying something like that? Even at the inauguration of a black president, it seems white America is being called racist.
Mr. President, I want to believe, I want to trust, I want to hope for change, but I am really failing to see how this is any different. “USA Today” reports in something that I was shocked by that you actually smiled when he said this and shook your head. And it’s not like you didn’t know what you were getting yourself into. This is the same reverend that made Coretta Scott King’s funeral all about politics, and yet, the only one we ever heard about was the guy on the right that was going to open things up and didn’t say anything about yellow being mellow.
America is with you today, Mr. President. And you’re right — we are all tired of the partisan bickering, the racial divides, the greed and the corruption. There are many people in this country who didn’t vote for you, myself included, but actually want you to succeed. My family has been down on our knees for the last month praying for you and your family and your safety.
You may be fascinated to us that many of us don’t hate minorities, that we don’t want to starve the poor, and we’re perfectly fine with brown sticking around. We’ll do our part, but please help us help you. We’re going to argue about politics, but let us expect the best from each other. Could we do that? And chastise those who insist on driving wedges between us on both sides of the aisle.
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The right wingers have a hard time handling the truth. They are going to be in a world of hurt for the next 8 years because truth will prevail and their lies and hatred will be vanquished. Too bad so sad for them.
January 21st, 2009 at 10:58 amTHIS IS A PERSON THAT BELIEVES DEITIES ARE IN CONTINUAL PERPETUAL BABY MAKING ORGIES ON A FAR AWAY PLANET MADE OF GLASS AND GOLD AND SENDING THOSE BABY SPIRITS TO EARTH WHERE THEY CAN BE REINCARNATED.
January 21st, 2009 at 10:58 amI just had a thought. I haven’t read anything about Warren’s invocation. It’s as if it never happened. Why is that?
January 21st, 2009 at 10:58 amYes, because, you know, unless all politicians, leaders and religious figures recite things completely in line with the conservative mantra of the FoxNews all-conservative line-up, then they are un-American, racist, misogynists, and terrorists.
BTW, in case you didn’t notice, it is also unpatriotic to question ANY U.S. sitting president in a time of crisis … Unless he/she is a Democrat.
Welcome to the Murdoch rules!
January 21st, 2009 at 10:59 amSomeday I hope that white will get it right… I just thought that part of the speech was kind of silly.
It’s the old “I’m rubber and you’re glue” Republican racism argument. Racial minorities mentioning racial problems in America in any context constitutes hate speech to them, because it interferes in their God-given human right to be racist bastards, or something.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:00 am“Beck Outraged At Inauguration Benediction, Accuses Rev. Lowery Of Calling America ‘Racist’”
– - Beck gets outraged because the sun rises in the East every day.
Joe Scarborough was parroting the same meme this morning too. I’ve realized that “Morning Joe” works better than caffeine for jump starting me in the morning. Joe’s idiocy gooses my adrenaline nicely.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:00 amBeck is a nut, plain and simple lying sack o sh¡t nut; just like all the other right wing talkers.
Beck even cried while interviewing Mooselips Palin the other day; what a clown.
¶ AIO
January 21st, 2009 at 11:04 amOh dear. Beck won’t be happy till Obama announces an outreach program to thin-skinned caucasian men. My heart bleeds.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:06 am<<and when the white will embrace what is right>>
It implies whites don’t embrace what is right. I am offended by it.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:06 amAnything that makes Beck this angrymakes me smile and possibly laugh !!
I’m soooooooo going to enjoy this next few months! After grinding my teeth for 8 years, I’ll live to see the lunatic fringe seething
January 21st, 2009 at 11:06 amSadly, the truth is, America IS racist.
The murder of MLK Jr, Medgar Evans, Wallace proclaiming segregation forever, Bull Conner and his fire hoses and police dogs in Birmingham, Selma Alabama, Jim Crow laws, 3 civil rights workers murdered near Philadelphia MS(Mississippi Burning), Reagan kicking off his presidential run there defending states rights, Nixon and his GOP successors playing the “Southern(read race baiting) strategy’ the Willie Horton ads by chimpy’s dad, Rodney King beating, Allen’s ‘macacca’ moment, David Duke-KKK Grand Wizard(?) running for office on the GOP ticket, the recent BART shooting of a handcuffed prisoner, open bigotry at the McInsane & Bible Barbie rallies last fall.
The evidence is too overwhelming to deny.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:07 amGrow the fu(k up, Beck.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:07 amReligion doesn’t ‘fit well’ with political ceremonies. Period.
Glenn Blech doesn’t fit well with average Americans. Period.
Now, Glennie didn’t have any issues with Rick Warren, eh?
Personally, I thought the Benediction ‘follow up’ was pretty silly, but I certainly wasn’t offended.
Watch the Wingnuts try to play the racist card anytime they can.
Oh, & Beck…from CNN to Fixed News? WoW! What a career move.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:07 amSo Lowery says “when the white will embrace what is right (as opposed to left)”. Why should Beck/Limbaugh/Hannity/Hume have any problem with that?
Sounds like a pretty “inclusive” thought to me.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:08 amA couple of Republicans with whom I work were outraged by yesterday afternoon when this poem was apparently emailed to every right-winger in the country. Looks like that’s all the 23%er’s took from the festivities yesterday. It’s going to be a long 8 years for them.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:08 amnellre Says:
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It implies whites don’t embrace what is right. I am offended by it.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:06 am
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Whites don’t embrace what is right. It’s a fact of history. Deal with it, or get over it.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:09 amCan’t change stupid…
January 21st, 2009 at 11:10 amhe was rhyming… and truth telling…
sounds like some idjits have a conscience after all…
January 21st, 2009 at 11:10 amnellre Says:
It implies whites don’t embrace what is right. I am offended by it.
I take offense at your offense. That’s hate speech, there.
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Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
He’ll fit perfectly on Faux.
It’s an awesome move, and I appreciate it. Gather them all on one channel and then don’t watch it. Perfect!
January 21st, 2009 at 11:11 amThe righties seem to believe that most Americans enjoy their efforts to tear down and destroy whoever and whatever they happen to not appreciate. The sense I get is that Americans are tired of the righties constant crap and are ready to solve problems and improve the lives of everyone in the coutry and not just the super rich.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:12 amHonestly, this is the best explanation and argument I’ve ever seen regarding racism in America.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:13 amUncle Ho Says:
Sadly, the truth is, America IS racist.
The evidence is too overwhelming to deny.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:07 am
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People like Beck will never admit to this, nor will they ever understand it.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:13 amRacists are like vampires.
When you hold a mirror up to them, they see nothing in the reflection.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:14 amTruth hurts, doesn’t it, Beck the Bigot?
Suck it, Righties.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:15 amBeck’s rant sounds more like redisual guilt he can’t deal with, and fear of a black country.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:16 amI liked it. I thought it was truth spoken in a gentle and clever way.
And I’m white.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:16 amMy standard for judging such things is, would Obama himself say it? In this case the answer is 100% no way. A needless injection of divisiveness that the President himself I am sure could have done without. I didn’t find it offensive, I found it dumb.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:17 amYippie. Now everyone can be offended by one of yesterday’s preachers. Personally, having seen our economy crater, our global standing diminish and our constitutional rights compromised over the past eight years, my advice to the easily offended of all persuasions is to get their panties unbunched and start working on solutions. We finally have an administration that shows some potential for solving immediate problems (Iraq, the economy) and striving towards progress on the long term goals. As for Beck et al., I don’t “think progres” when his name is mentioned. Why is he mentioned here at all?
January 21st, 2009 at 11:18 ami first heard about this “outrage” yesterday at C&L…
A tale of two prayers: Warren and Lowery
David Neiwert wrote:
Of course, the righty whiteys are already uptighty about this part of the prayer. (I’m betting Bill O’Reilly or Glenn Beck do something, since they lead the contingent that sees any discussion of our weaknesses and flaws as being “anti-American.”)
that link goes to newsbusters, fyi…
January 21st, 2009 at 11:19 amWell, if anyone’s an expert on racist and divisive rhetoric, it’d be Glenn Beck. Good to have an expert weigh in.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:19 amBeck cries all the time in his “performances”, seriously.
What is it with all these dry-drunk promisekeepers that feel obliged to cry when they’re not red-faced and wanting to kill someone?
January 21st, 2009 at 11:20 amKeltoi Says:
My standard for judging such things is, would Obama himself say it? In this case the answer is 100% no way. A needless injection of divisiveness that the President himself I am sure could have done without. I didn’t find it offensive, I found it dumb.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:17 am
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Why is that a useful standard? Obama doesn’t speak for all African-Americans, nor is he some sort of ultimate authority on what’s divisive or not?
All Lowery said was that we’re not there yet. The day when we’ll have full inclusiveness is still a dream. If the truth is an “injection of divisiveness,” then I say bring it on.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:21 amPlease don’t give Beck added press to spread his hate. The man’s a Nazi.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:21 amErm, “residual” in #28 (play, magic fingers, play!).
I absolutely adored Rev. Lowrey’s Benediction, and I am not Christian. Such a beautiful, powerful benediction, from a voice that sounded so very fraile…
January 21st, 2009 at 11:22 amJust reminded me – Lowery spoke memorably at Coretta Scott King’s funeral. Chimpy was there, and Lowery gave it to him on WMD.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:24 amPersonally I thought it was the highlight of the inauguration, with the possible exception of Aretha’s hat. The good Reverend simply took everyone to church, the black church, and it’s understandable some might be uncomfortable there. I saw it as a sort of “Remember all the Rev. Wright horsesh*t? Well, suck on this…” moment. And Barack certainly seemed to enjoy it. Amen, indeed.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:26 amGlenn Beck is a monkey on a string. He aspires to be a first-class blowhard hypocrite scumbag a la Hannity or Limbaugh, but he’ll always only be an also-ran.
He reminds me of one of those terriers that bark at you from behind a window as you pass by; if you approach, that yapping creature shrinks and cowers in the face of a challenge.
Clearly, the GOP has gotten the message: the circus is over; they have sent in the clowns.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:26 amDr. Hussein Matt Says:
Now Faux needs to get Scarborough from MSNBC and Dobbs from CNN and we’ll have all the radical righties in a centralized network so they can have their daily circle jerks to Ronny Raygun.
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Talk about serving up white whine & cheese…
January 21st, 2009 at 11:27 amLeftside Annie Says: I liked it. I thought it was truth spoken in a gentle and clever way. And I’m white.
Thank you! You weren’t offended because you are probably already right. Bloviating dopes like Bleck, BillO and the FauxNewsmodels got called out on their white privilege and their widdle feelings got hurt.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:28 ami agree with jim in austin… thought it was great!
and so was aretha’s hat!
January 21st, 2009 at 11:29 amCrawl back under the rock, Beck, your opinion isn’t worth spit.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:29 amSome right-wing blogs even joined in, calling Lowery’s prayer “divisive”
And if anyone would know how to be divisive, it would be the right-wing blogs.
I think mk3872 pretty much nailed this one.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:29 amLove the smell of terrified Right Wingers in the morning.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:30 amFaux outrage, my friends. Faux outrage.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:30 amListen, as my wife and I sat in a historic theater watching the event, sitting directly beside us were three African Americans.
In front of us, a Caucasian college couple, and behind us a family of Hispanic descent (I’m assuming). After the prayer, we all laughed. Hell, the whole audience laughed. Why? Because it was funny, a play on words. And basically, because there was no controversy. NONE!
Only those looking for arguments will find them, no matter how miniscule.
Beck is an idiot. Rev. Lowery wasn’t simply forcing rhymes. He was harking back to a specific poem from the civil rights movement:
Big Bill Broonzy, Black, Brown And White
This little song that I’m singin’ about,
January 21st, 2009 at 11:31 amPeople, you all know that it’s true,
If you’re black and gotta work for livin’,
Now, this is what they will say to you,
They says: If you was white,
You’s alright,
If you was brown,
Stick around,
But if you’s black, oh, brother,
Get back, get back, get back.
I was in a place one night,
They was all havin’ fun,
They was all buyin’ beer and wine,
But they would not sell me none.
They said: If you was white,
You’s alright,
If you was brown,
You could stick around,
But as you’s black, hmm, hmm, brother,
Get back, get back, get back.
I went to an employment office,
I got a number, I got in line,
They called everybody’s number,
But they never did call mine.
They said: If you was white,
You’s alright,
If you was brown,
You could stick around,
But as you’s black, hmm, hmm, brother,
Get back, get back, get back.
Me and a man was workin’ side by side,
Now, this is what it meant:
They was payin’ him a dollar an hour,
And they was payin’ me fifty cent.
They said: If you was white,
You’d be alright,
If you was brown,
You could stick around,
But as you’s black, oh, brother,
Get back, get back, get back.
I helped win sweet victories,
With my plow and hoe,
Now, I want you to tell me, brother,
What you gonna do ’bout the old Jim Crow?
Now, if you is white,
You’s alright,
If you’s brown,
Stick around,
But if you’s black,
Hmm, hmm, brother,
Get back, get back, get back.
hussein toasterhead Says:
Why is that a useful standard? Obama doesn’t speak for all African-Americans, nor is he some sort of ultimate authority on what’s divisive or not?
Of course he doesn’t. However, he is now the leader of our country. He is also a transformational figure in American History, or so I heard 100 gajillion times on TeeVee yesterday. I would say his refusal to run as a Black candidate is the reason he won. He will not govern as a Black president, or so all the evidence indicates. I believe his wisdom on the state of race in America should be heeded. He would never say something so stupid as “I hope White can get it right.”
All Lowery said was that we’re not there yet. The day when we’ll have full inclusiveness is still a dream. If the truth is an “injection of divisiveness,” then I say bring it on.
Can you achieve inclusiveness by injecting diviseness? That logic elludes me. It is not as if America is not pretty cognizant of the issue of race. That particular moment, that particular venue – I don’t find it offensive because the statement was so trite and inappropriate to the occasion I just think to myself there will always be those who don’t wan’t to let the race issue go, and they come in all skin colors. But it is no biggie, the comment and the commenter are irrelevant to the work at hand.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:32 amBeck Outraged At Inauguration Benediction….
Of course. All the rightwing buttwipes were. Without even trying, I found two more jerkasses with opinions on the Inauguration.
Hannity: “And finally for the BIG GREAT DUZZY. Here is OFUMBLER screwing up the inauguration oath.”
Limbaugh: “The Truth About Obama’s Speech: An Uninspiring, Generic Buzzkill.”
Actually, I will enjoy listening to their carping, whining, and complaining over every little thing for the NEXT EIGHT YEARS and hope it gives them a stroke in the end.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:32 amWow…. a quick search on Google for “and when white will embrace what is right” brings up page after page of angry blog postings from conservatives, almost all of them saying the same thing. Did the RNC send out talking points during the ceremony?
Yes, Rev. Lowery called upon white people to “embrace what is right”, not because all of us are racist, but because some of us still are. Yes, Virginia, there are still racist Americans.
I think that so many on the right were offended by the statement because it hit too close to home. I sat and watched the ceremony yesterday, including the closing prayer, and did not find a single bit of it offensive – except for parts of Rick Warren’s invocation where he showed what a huge hypocrite he is. Let me add that I am a white, Southern man, born and raised up in rural Georgia. I am proud to sit and witness history and to take part in this tectonic shift in American politics.
The haters on the right have had lots of fun at the expense of the rest of us for eight years. I knew that there would be gnashing of teeth and whining but I didn’t expect that it would begin the nanosecond that Obama became our 44th president.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:32 amI am all about President Obama and the progressive movement; however I have to say that Beck has a point. That Benediction was at the very least stupid and definately devisive in tone.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:34 amOops: Song, not poem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZLw5ahxm-Q
January 21st, 2009 at 11:34 amIf no religious person was ever to speak again at political functions, we’d all be better for it.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:34 amFrankly, I liked the preacher’s little rhyming poem at the end; but I paused at Warren’s very christian Lord’s Prayer. I realize that it is pretty non-demoninational, but that’s it – it is denominational and excludes too many.
I was happy to hear Obama include atheists in his comments on Americans.
Well I knew Beck was an idiot without even being aware o that poem… Objectively speaking thouugh, Lowery probably shouldn’t have used that poem (not because of the LOL devisive content) but because the rhyming is forced and crappy.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:37 amSpread the word. Australia nails it.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:38 amCZ-1 @ 48, thanks for finding that poem. I knew that Lowery was making a reference to an older work but couldn’t find it quickly.
Got to love those old, black preachers. White folks just aren’t used to that sort of talk from the pulpit.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:38 amKeltoi Says:
Can you achieve inclusiveness by injecting diviseness?
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Gee… ***pause***… I sure hope you were as critical of Botch, the GOOP, and the whole damned friggin’ rightwing media for the last 8 years as you are of Lowery.
I mean, it’s not like Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Savage, Malkin, Coulter, Palin, Rove, Scholzman, Virgil Goode, Peter King, George Allen, or prolly dozens and dozens of other “Repubs” EVER said anything divisive, huh?
And of course, you were critical EVERY TIME, weren’t you?
January 21st, 2009 at 11:39 amSo be sure and tune in tomorrow to the Glen Beck show and the other misfits to enjoy another outrageous diatribe. Be sure and support their sponsors also.
Wake Up, America. You’re Being Played Like A Cheap Fiddle.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:40 amI watched all day long and thought that poem was one of the high light’s…It made me smile and laugh out loud…It was truth and power of the word’s..I loved it.
Beckie boy is in a elite group of wacko’s, O’lilie, limpie, man coulter and many more…
We are now at a turning point, time to turn the channel selection away from fox snoozer’s and back the progressive’s we have put in office..Our day is now, as of yesterday , we are on a path of a better direction..Time to shun the evil of the past…Blessings
January 21st, 2009 at 11:40 amyou know, I haven’t seen many Asians ‘outraged’ over being told be ‘mellow’…
and, being a ‘red man’, I wasn’t offended about wanting to get ahead, man….
January 21st, 2009 at 11:40 amKeltoi Says:
I just think to myself there will always be those who don’t wan’t to let the race issue go, and they come in all skin colors.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:32 am
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What, to you, is “the race issue?” How exactly is it “let go?” Does this happen when we all ignore race and ethnicity as if it doesn’t exist? Is the “race issue” resolved if we pretend that slavery and Jim Crow and segregation never happened? Do we just wipe the slate clean as of January 20, 2009 and say “racism is over, race is over, we’re now in a post-race society?”
And to answer your first question, yes. You do achieve inclusiveness by injecting divisiveness. The first step to fixing a problem is admitting that you have a problem. The first step to curing alcoholism is admitting that you have an alcohol addiction. The first step to fixing racial and ethnic division is recognizing that we ARE different, we ARE divided, and we ARE, despite decades of laws and Supreme Court decisions to the contrary, separate but unequal.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:40 amwell spoken, Mr. Toasterhead
I prefer the Salad Bowl image of racial diversity in the US over the Melting Pot image, personally
January 21st, 2009 at 11:42 amAs a white man, Im not offended that someone was praying that I embrace ‘what’s right’”
January 21st, 2009 at 11:42 amSince when does anyone other than Glenn Beck care what Glenn Beck thinks or says?
Next.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:44 amHey, Keltoi…
Com’on, let’s have a Post-Inaugural breakfast.
How about some Obama Waffles, w/ a side of Crow… Jim Crow…?
I hear they’re “the Magic Negro’s” favorite…
Now, about that “divisiveness” thingy…
January 21st, 2009 at 11:45 amIf we offended Glenda Beck, then we are off to a good start.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:45 amOK, this is my last thought:
When I was in the second grade, wayyyy back in the 50’s I learned a sort of saying or poem that had circulated among the Black population for generations.
It went like this:
If you’re black..get back!
If you’re brown, stick around!
If you’re yellow, you’re mellow
If you’re red, you’re dead
Rev. Joseph Lowery, whom many thought was invoking the race card when he said:
In my opinion he was invoking the ancestors of ALL races who died for this country. I think he was also saying that he prayed for a time, when children and adults, did not have to use the above phrase anymore.
One commenter at CNN put it this way:
AMEN!
January 21st, 2009 at 11:47 amThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
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Keltoi Says:
Can you achieve inclusiveness by injecting diviseness?
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Gee… ***pause***… I sure hope you were as critical of Botch, the GOOP, and the whole damned friggin’ rightwing media for the last 8 years as you are of Lowery.
I mean, it’s not like Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Savage, Malkin, Coulter, Palin, Rove, Scholzman, Virgil Goode, Peter King, George Allen, or prolly dozens and dozens of other “Repubs” EVER said anything divisive, huh?
And of course, you were critical EVERY TIME, weren’t you?
Well, this particular thread is about Beck, and he is getting his panties in a wad over nothing. Still, I agree it struck a false chord given the majesty of the moment.
As to all the others, TP excoriates them on a daily or weekly basis. I have never gotten into the lets kill the pundits we hate threads, they are cotton candy lite. This thread has a hint of substance because on the very day race relations take their greatest leap forward in our history, some obscure nobody feels the need to pull us back a step. Again, unfortunate, not in the Spirit of Obama, but not terribly important.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:47 amdeebaser Says:
As a white man, Im not offended that someone was praying that I embrace ‘what’s right’”
January 21st, 2009 at 11:42 am
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My only concern is that members of the Blue Man Group may have felt left out of the benediction. And perhaps the Syracuse Orangemen.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:47 amhussein toasterhead Says:
My only concern is that members of the Blue Man Group may have felt left out of the benediction. And perhaps the Syracuse Orangemen.
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Don’t forget all the elected officials out there w/ big, wide YELLOW streaks down their backs.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:48 amI just went to Crooks & Liars and read about Warren’s prayer vs. Lowrey’s. The thing that really hit me the most was what a hypocrite Warren is. He had the nerve to say:
Considering the way he treats gays and the things he says about them, then I guess he needs to ask God for forgiveness.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:49 amWitch1 Says:
I watched all day long and thought that poem was one of the high light’s…It made me smile and laugh out loud…It was truth and power of the word’s..I loved it.
My thoughts EXACTLY. It made me smile and laugh out loud. :-) It was perfect. I loved it.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:49 amTsk.
Glenn just can’t understand all this whining.
Why there is this prevailing distrust of whites?…after all, whites, under the specific auspices of their ‘God,’ committed genocide to an entire indigenous people and stole their land, (small pox blankets and all)…enslaved and murdered millions of blacks, counting them as only 3/5 of a person, exploited the chinese and sacrificed thousands building railroads, doused Mexicans with gasoline before they could enter the country to work for slave wages picking vegetables and cleaning whites’ houses…now it’s the muslims’ and arabs’ turn to be subjected to suspicion and scrutiny…not to mention having their land stolen too…
Why can’t people just shut up about all that stuff and trust white people like Glenn?
January 21st, 2009 at 11:51 amKeltoi Says:
As to all the others, TP excoriates them on a daily or weekly basis. I have never gotten into the lets kill the pundits we hate threads, they are cotton candy lite. This thread has a hint of substance because on the very day race relations take their greatest leap forward in our history, some obscure nobody feels the need to pull us back a step. Again, unfortunate, not in the Spirit of Obama, but not terribly important.
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Shorter Keltoi: No… I never condemned them, which means I tacitly approve of them. Nice, Keltoi… nice. Double standards, anyone?
January 21st, 2009 at 11:51 amKeltoi… is reminding me of Pat Buchanan. Both are hypocrites extraordinaire.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:52 amIn his inauguration speech yesterday, President Obama declared, “On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics.”
This is the type of sentiment appropriate to the inauguration. I am proud to have lived to see a man of Obama’s caliber ascend to the highest office in the land.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:54 amStop commenting on these turds. Nobody but their ill-begotten ilk cares. Let them wallow in obscurity.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:55 am70. Keltoi Says:Well, this particular thread is about Beck, and he is getting his panties in a wad over nothing. Still, I agree it struck a false chord given the majesty of the moment.
So did Warren when he invoked Jesus. That instantly injected divisiveness for those who don’t follow that particular fable.
And there are a whole lot of us.
But I don’t see you complaining about that with the same gravitas, K…
January 21st, 2009 at 12:00 pmKeltoi Says:
This is the type of sentiment appropriate to the inauguration. I am proud to have lived to see a man of Obama’s caliber ascend to the highest office in the land.
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Still ducking, huh, Keltoi?
January 21st, 2009 at 12:01 pmYou know, instead of whining and screaming, they could always just… embrace what is right. It’s not that hard.
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shoeless Says:
Looks like that’s all the 23%er’s took from the festivities yesterday. It’s going to be a long 8 years for them.
They have an amazing ability to edit out 98% of something and just run with the 2% they’ve decided they don’t like.
It reminds me of the original “Joe the Plumber” youtube clip in which Barack answered a random question from a citizen intelligently and at length, explaining the reasoning and justifications behind having a slightly more progressive tax structure, for six solid minutes. Six minutes of nonstop, content-rich discussion! But all the wingnuts heard from that six minutes were three words: “spread the wealth.” Sometimes I think they should all have their heads MRI’d, ‘cuz something’s seriously wrong with their language processing cortex.
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Keltoi Says:
A needless injection of divisiveness that the President himself I am sure could have done without.
Nothing divisive about it. I think it’s pretty clear that certain folks are choosing to be “divided” and are looking for any excuse they can.
The only divisiveness here, the only group that was excluded from the celebration, is those who embrace racism. You choose for yourself which side of that line you’re on. But the only people who have an interest in complaining about that line is the racists, so I guess you’ve already chosen.
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Keltoi Says:
I believe his wisdom on the state of race in America should be heeded.
I agree that Obama’s forward-looking approach has done more to improve race relations in American than anyone since Dr. King. However, there’s a big difference to saying that in the here and now, it’s better to choose unity than to underscore the problems that remain, than to derisively sneer at those who feel it’s still important to underscore the problems that remain. Because in doing so, you’re effectively defending the problems.
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Joe Sixpack Says:
Of course. All the rightwing buttwipes were. Without even trying, I found two more jerkasses with opinions on the Inauguration.
Hannity: “And finally for the BIG GREAT DUZZY. Here is OFUMBLER screwing up the inauguration oath.”
That’s awesome. It’s a good thing they have a judge walk you through the words so you don’t make a mistake! Ha haaa!
January 21st, 2009 at 12:02 pmKeltoi Says:
This is the type of sentiment appropriate to the inauguration. I am proud to have lived to see a man of Obama’s caliber ascend to the highest office in the land.
It was a big day, with a lot of speakers and the best thing about it was that they didn’t all repeat the same ideological mantra. And, honestly, I can’t understand why you keep referring to that little ditty as “divisive.” Reminding people of our shared history and reminding them that we haven’t gotten all the way yet is “divisive”?
I’m sorry, but all I hear is privileged white man talking from comments like yours.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:03 pmGlenn Beck is a colon polyp.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pmSomeone please tell Beck to STFU.
Forever. He’s had his 15 minutes, and then some.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:06 pmceltic cynic Says:
Wake Up, America.
Please don’t say that. Every time anybody says “wake up America” an angel gets shot in the face by Dick Cheney.
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Keltoi Says:
This thread has a hint of substance because on the very day race relations take their greatest leap forward in our history, some obscure nobody feels the need to pull us back a step.
You’re talking about Beck, right?
Or do you mean you that didn’t even know who Rev. Lowery was? Oh do go on and lecture us some more about civil rights, Mr. expert.
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Keltoi Says:
I am proud to have lived to see a man of Obama’s caliber ascend to the highest office in the land.
Thank you, that’s appreciated.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:11 pmnellre Says:
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It implies whites don’t embrace what is right. I am offended by it.
Mike71654 Says:
I am all about President Obama and the progressive movement; however I have to say that Beck has a point. That Benediction was at the very least stupid and definately devisive in tone.
Children, children, children…explain how this was divisive to me please? The majority of people in this country (after we exterminated a lot of the “Reds”) are White. If us whites have always embraced what is right then please please explain to me the following:
1. The aforementioned extermination of native Americans
2. The slavery of blacks abducted from Africa
3. The exploitation of Asians who helped build our railways
4. The xenophobia and thinly (I’d go so far as to say wispily) veiled racism against brown people from Latin America
It’s so ridiculous how we white people can really kick our feet up and enjoy the benefits of the ingrained racism that still remains in this country in OUR favor, and then become all defensive when someone speaks up and says that we’ve been on the WRONG side of the equality issue for more years than not.
Grow up, study history, and stop complaining when someone puts a hard truth to you gently, in a poem, in a prayer.
YEESH…
January 21st, 2009 at 12:14 pmIf this is the biggest complaint Beck and the rest of the wingnuts can come up with, we’re in for a rather silly four years from that side of the fence.
Beck is incensed because he inferred from Lowery’s remarks that he was calling all of white America racist, because they don’t “embrace what is right”.
Many white Americans (as well as Americans of all colors) DO already “embrace what is right” — or try their best to do so. I doubt seriously that Lowery was dissing these people. He was merely pointing out that there is more work to be done, and he’s right (although he chose a rather silly way to express it). This is especially true when it comes to the “brown can stick around” segment — Americans whose ancestry is Hispanic, South Asian, or Middle Eastern have been hit particularly hard by petty bigotry and discrimination recently.
Merely suggesting that racism exists is not racist. Calling for an end to racism is not racist. Any mention of race at all is not necessarily racist. Lowery didn’t accuse anyone in particular of racism. Beck just needs to get his shorts in a wad over something, and this is it.
Next, I’m assuming he will castigate Obama for saying “the time has come to set aside childish things” — Obama’s paraphrase of a verse in Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians. I can just hear his squawking now — “Obama’s saying we’re all children! He’s mean! He’s insulting! I’m offended that he thinks I’m a child!”
January 21st, 2009 at 12:15 pmKeltoi Says:
A needless injection of divisiveness that the President himself I am sure could have done without.
Weak sauce Keltoi.
Why can’t white people handle the truth about our past and role in America’s divisiveness along racial lines without getting EXTREMELY defensive?
Couple that with the fact that this poem was given at the end of a benediction for ALL OF US AND OUR COUNTRY, it is so infuriating to hear this snooty whimper of white prvilige bemoaning “divisive! hate speech! racism!!”
It is pathetic and shameful to be offended by this on a couple of levels.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:18 pmI should point out that Big Bill Broonzy was a blues singer, and not a preacher. (About as far away from a preacher as you could get.) His best known blues song is ‘Key to the Highway.’
Beck’s reaction to ‘divisiveness’ is about the same as ‘dialogue’ on race: not saying everything to their satisfaction, which means not mentioning nything bad about right-wing Republicans. becomes ‘divisive.’ ‘Dialogue’ on race means they get to go on at lengyth on how unhappy they are, and continue to talk ever louder when the other side speaks.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:20 pmThey’re America’s Abusive Ex-Husband, and it’s about time we stop letting him shout on our lawn in the middle of the night.
misshusseinmolly Says:
If this is the biggest complaint Beck and the rest of the wingnuts can come up with, we’re in for a rather silly four years from that side of the fence.
Early entry candidate for Understatement of the Year Award.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:20 pmI agree that Rev. Lowery was out of line. He should have said “you white trailer trash honkeys should know that there’s a new sheriff who has blazed into town and if you don’t get your foot off of the necks of us black folks, he’s got the Bush-granted power to declare y’all enemy combatants and haul your white a**es off to Gitmo. Amen”
/snark off
It was a gentle and light-hearted way of saying we’ve still got work to do in the race relations department. Which we do.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:21 pmI liked it and I laughed. If you were offended, it is likely because you are offensive.
Surely you knew this was coming, didn’t you?
Rightards crowing about the “end of racism.” Which of course is also the same as saying all those hateful, odious minority preference rules are no longer needed. Obama = Racial Equality! Done deal. Git on home, now, you negroes, and quitcher complainin’, or Ah’ll have Rafe come down here and horsewhip y’all Ungrateful Beasts…
January 21st, 2009 at 12:23 pm“Divisive” will be the Reichwhiners’ word of the decade. It’s how they will justify their obstruction. While working behind the scenes to ensure the failure of anything which may prove “the left” were right all along, they will publicly screech “we were forced out by their divisiveness”.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:32 pmYou may be fascinated to us that many of us don’t hate minorities
Well, Beck, methinks Lowery wasn’t talking specifically about you. But if the shoe fits….
January 21st, 2009 at 12:32 pmActually, now that I think about it…keep it up Glenn!
Since apparently a more serious, more mature administration is in power, The Daily Show needs to look elsewhere from which to glean the trademark observance of idiotic absurdity now that bush is gone.
Sounds like Glenn is volunteering, along with his conservative pundit brethren still trying to reconcile their complete collapse and rejection by the public, to step up and fill that void!
Glenn…you go, girl!
January 21st, 2009 at 12:33 pmAside from Obama being sworn in as Our President, and Aretha Franklin singing. I thought he was the best part of the whole ceremony. In 1968 my best friend and I had lots of sleep over’s. My mother, who never ever cursed, received a call from a “concerned” neighbor wanting to know why she permitted a black girl to sleep in our home. My mother said “WHO THE F**K ARE YOU”? So, Glenn WHO THE F**K ARE YOU”? What is with these people? seriously!!!!!!!!
January 21st, 2009 at 12:33 pmKeltoi, I appreciate what you’re saying, but I think you’re off base. I’m with HTH on this one.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:34 pmWell, to summarize:
1. I am not offended by this comment.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:37 pm2. I am not defending Beck. That would be pointless.
3. I am not denying racism exists and has existed since 1619. I AM looking forward to Obama bringing us together and that was the theme of his inaugural address. The comment by Lowery was not in that Spirit and therefore I thought it was not appropriate. But again, no big deal. And I am going to stand by my very first statement regarding the Obama standard. If he says it or would say it, I will listen closely and take it very seriously. If he would not say it, it has far less substance IMO.
liberalinaredstate, I like your mother!
January 21st, 2009 at 12:38 pmhanshiro Says:
70. Keltoi Says:Well, this particular thread is about Beck, and he is getting his panties in a wad over nothing. Still, I agree it struck a false chord given the majesty of the moment.
So did Warren when he invoked Jesus. That instantly injected divisiveness for those who don’t follow that particular fable.
And there are a whole lot of us.
But I don’t see you complaining about that with the same gravitas, K…
It isn’t the topic of the thread.
I don’t follow the Christian fable, either. It was an odd choice that Warren was invited…but since he was invited, that he mentioned Jesus was pretty predictable.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:41 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
If this is the biggest complaint Beck and the rest of the wingnuts can come up with, we’re in for a rather silly four years from that side of the fence.
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To go along w/ the last eight truly annoying years we’ve already had?
January 21st, 2009 at 12:42 pmBut what about before 1619, Keltoi? What about 1519? Or 1419?
(Somebody check and make sure Keltoi doesn’t have his fingers crossed behind his back…)
January 21st, 2009 at 12:43 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
But what about before 1619, Keltoi? What about 1519? Or 1419?
(Somebody check and make sure Keltoi doesn’t have his fingers crossed behind his back…)
I was referencing the arrival of black slaves in the colonies. Obviously, slavery is as old as civiization and probably older, as is racism.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:48 pmSo the KKK has disbanded and the neo Nazis no longer have meetings? Rick Warren has apologized to gays and the minute men are no longer harassing Mexicans near the border. And certainly southerners are going to stop complaining about how Lincoln had no right to take their slaves away. Because we’re all one big happy family and that Rev. Lowry is a big meanie.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:50 pmReally Keltoi, you whiners should learn to pick your battles.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:51 pmYea Keltoi, stop digging now or we’ll lose sight of the top of your head.
January 21st, 2009 at 12:55 pmAnd since Joseph Lowery was uninvited, that he referred in an oblique manner to racism was pretty predictable as well.
So your dismissal of Warren seems to undercut your point.
January 21st, 2009 at 1:01 pmnellre Says:
It implies whites don’t embrace what is right. I am offended by it.
No, he’s implying that NOT ALL whites embrace what is right. And that’s the truth.
January 21st, 2009 at 1:01 pmSorry… Joseph Lowery was INVITED, obviously.
Dammit.
January 21st, 2009 at 1:02 pmIf the shoe fits..
January 21st, 2009 at 1:08 pm______
Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
I just had a thought. I haven’t read anything about Warren’s invocation. It’s as if it never happened. Why is that?
January 21st, 2009 at 10:58 am
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Because no one has yet found a way to claim that he was attacking them?
January 21st, 2009 at 1:10 pmThat’s rich. Beck calling anybody ELSE racisst!
January 21st, 2009 at 1:20 pmBeck is a good Mormon. Case closed.
January 21st, 2009 at 1:23 pmO, the little tempests, in their shiny teapots…
precious little Glenn
precious, precious, contrarians
picking for hairs to split
…pity they didn’t care when the real crimes were committed.
January 21st, 2009 at 1:34 pmPerhaps.
Or perhaps it’s because the non-believers or non-Christians who were not really part of Warren’s rather nondescript invocation are not so hyper-sensitive as conservatives like Beck.
One can understand Beck’s hyper-sensitivity, of course, since his side’s been getting beaten up pretty good by reality lately.
January 21st, 2009 at 1:35 pm104.Keltoi Says: It isn’t the topic of the thread. I don’t follow the Christian fable, either. It was an odd choice that Warren was invited…but since he was invited, that he mentioned Jesus was pretty predictable.
You cited divisiveness rhetoric as a defense of your position. That begs the tangential inclusion of consistency throughout the proceedings, but more importantly, who did the more dividing; if a lesser example is cited, naturally it is incumbent on the commenters here to raise the inconsistency.
In other words:
The commentary by Lowery was meant to expose old racial myths and treat them as the passe, tritely ignorant racist slogans that they are; made all the more evident and ridiculous by reciting them in that circumstance.
Warren, on the other hand, recites an ongoing divisive position and encourages, by sanctimonious fiat, perpetuation of the destructive policies of an exclusive and arbitrarily insular institution.
January 21st, 2009 at 1:42 pmKeltoi Says:
I just think to myself there will always be those who don’t wan’t to let the race issue go, and they come in all skin colors.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:32 am
Tell you what, try living in a black, brown, yellow or red (as I am) skin for a week, then come back to us and talk about racism.
There are still too many people who are racists, who treat others differently by the color of their skin alone. I live with it all the time because I am not pure white.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:00 pmHear, hear for Ralph the Wonder Llama. Glen Beck just did what he is expert at doing…proving that he is a mindless bigot. And then people wonder why he is getting those big Murdoch Bucks.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:01 pmOnce again, this whole controversy was promoted by Matt Drudge, and right-wingers on radio (even in Boston with Jay Severin) and TV (Beck, Hume) fell for Drudge’s out-of-context excerpt from Lowery’s light-hearted ending to his speech he put up on his website yesterday afternoon. Thank goodness the MSM is smart enough not to fall for this crap – at least not yet.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:05 pmI am a Democrat. I believe in diversity and also in respecting everyone for who they are as people…not the color of thier skin. I have made a concerted effort to teach my children that we all look different and should be valued for our character etc.
Even so, I am offended by the comments made at the end of the benediction made by Rev. Lowry. He is living in the past. Rev. Lowry seriously should consider the positive changes that have happened in America as a result of the Civil Rights Movement. Values and constructive action of people have brought about these changes. Obama was not elected by all minorities but also by white voters. It is time to look forward.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:09 pmFor all of the righteous anger that FOX News’ unleashes, they unfortunately remain number 1 in the ratings among cable news channels, as discussed on this clip about media coverage of the inauguration:http://www.newsy.com/videos/american_networks_banking_on_inauguration
January 21st, 2009 at 2:11 pmhttp://www.newsy.com/videos/american_networks_banking_on_inauguration
January 21st, 2009 at 2:13 pmglen beck, i will sock you in the stomach if i ever see you in the street.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pmI find this kind of outrage funny, because when they found out that allegedly 70% of black voted against Pro 8, they were parroting that shit to the rafters. Say a lot of whites aren’t right or this country has a racist past, and you have done this country a great disservice. I have seen this shit for the last couple of months and it makes me sick.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:22 pmI suspect that if you had lived through the racism that Lowery knew as a young man, and continues to deal with in “post-racial” America, you would probably have more patience with the good reverend and his perspective.
I’m pretty confident that racism is not of the past.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pmThe Reverend Joseph Lowery is an ignorant, racist bigot and his inaugural prayer was an insult to every American who works tirelessly toward ending racism. “…we ask you [God] to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back…” In what decade is he living? That day has come and gone, Blacks are no longer asked to get in back Mr. Lowery!!! And for your information, if not for Whites, Barack Obama would not have won the election. Without racism, people like Joseph Lowery would be out of work, so rather than “keep hope alive”, they keep racism alive.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pmConversely, in the right-wing world, ONLY non-white Americans can be considered racist.
Funny how that works, init?
January 21st, 2009 at 2:28 pm121.HRMP Says: Even so, I am offended by the comments made at the end of the benediction made by Rev. Lowry. He is living in the past. Rev. Lowry seriously should consider the positive changes that have happened in America as a result of the Civil Rights Movement.
Ummm, let me guess…you’re white. Right?
Just because you decide it’s time for others to stop taking note of this country’s history of unbridled racism doesn’t mean a.) It has stopped or b.) Civil rights figures such as Lowery, as well as other minorities (hindu, muslim, asian, jews, etc.) don’t still get attacked. Bush brought a whole new era of racism and hate: (witness the “uppity” comments by republicans, for example.)
Witness the case of Rev. Yearwood.
You may want to stop hearing about racism and America’s legendary, and ongoing attachment to it, but that won’t make it stop or go away. Whites have done a spectacular job of instituting racism into their laws, vernacular and legislation very effectively.
Your comment is reminiscent of a similar one just after Katrina:
Barbara Bush: ‘Why should we hear about [racism] body bags and deaths? It’s [living in the past] not relevant. So [Let's move forward] why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?’
Keep teaching your children and someday they can help you over your denial…
January 21st, 2009 at 2:39 pmupright left Says:
Because no one has yet found a way to claim that he was attacking them?
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Or because he DIDNT. It was a good and heartfelt invocation. I was unhapy at the choice. I was wrong. He did good.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:42 pmDynamo Says:
How dare someone call a non-white racist. In the liberal world, only white Americans can be considered racist.
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Do you ever get embarassed being so stupid? Do you ever just look in the mirror and tell yourself MY GOD what a moron? You should. The unexamined life you know.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:44 pmBeck is a no-class low watt bulb. Why in the WORLD anyone would put this putz on the air is beyond me.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:46 pm128. bwrobida Says: That day has come and gone, Blacks are no longer asked to get in back Mr. Lowery!!!
Welcome to earth, bwrobida. So,what planet are you from?
And for your information, if not for Whites, Barack Obama would not have won the election. Without racism, people like Joseph Lowery would be out of work, so rather than “keep hope alive”, they keep racism alive.
Ah, planet ‘Dypschit,’ that ball of hot gas….just at the southernmost tip of the galaxy, orbiting the InBred nebula..
January 21st, 2009 at 2:48 pmLet us properly define the term “racist” and “racism.” This Beck caricature obviously doesn’t understand it.
Racism = the efforts of a political party or population that is in the control of a political entity to suppress any racial or ethnic minority group via force or political dominance, stating that the oppressed racial group(s) are somehow inferior or not otherwise worthy, however that dominance is wielded.
For example, South Africa before the election of Nelson Mandela and the writing of a new constitution there. The United States before Jim Crow laws were repealed (not after slavery was ended). A majority racial group voting against a minority electoral candidate for no other reason than that candidate’s race.
A racial group or an individual in the minority within a political entity calling on the majority racial group to get it right (as The Rev. Lowery did) is not displaying racism. He also in no way inferred that the white folks he called on to get it right were inferior. What Beck, in his studied ignorance, was referring to is prejudice, which he no doubt harbors in abundance.
Are all these right wing types semi-literate, or worse?
January 21st, 2009 at 2:49 pmBeck constantly quips and points to quotes from presidents like Thomas Jefferson and James Madison (like he did just yesterday), trying to prove that he himself has a high degree of intelligence to analyze their points.
Where Glenn always fails is in situations like these, where he accuses civil rights/religious leaders, etc. of racism when not knowing the source materials and taking it as a bare fact that these people intended these words with malice. It is this kind of ignorance that proves Glenn Beck is not only greatly uneducated, but looks for any alternating forms of speech that he can label as racism to his audience.
That just proves in the end that the only racism here is from Glenn Beck and his colleagues, who have never fought any substantial and lasting forms or battles of social injustice in their lives.
January 21st, 2009 at 2:58 pmReading through this thread it’s clear that some white folks never had, nor are willing to have, the empathy to feel the pain and effects of racism aimed against minority racial groups in this country. I don’t have any guilt that some whites are or have been racist, so whenever any non-white person brings it up I just acknowledge it as an ongoing reality that needs to be addressed, and choked to death.
Guilt: the gift that keeps on giving. Be a man, and give it up!
January 21st, 2009 at 3:01 pmWhy do we always get a new poster, who ALWAYS starts out writing something like this…
I’m as Progressive as anyone,
or
I too voted for Obama,
And yet, it’s always followed by a big hair “but”, then goes on to say how bad Obama is, or how horrible his choice was.
January 21st, 2009 at 3:06 pm138.DRxJ Says: And yet, it’s always followed by a big hair “but”, then goes on to say how bad Obama is, or how horrible his choice was.
Republicans all read from the same script…’failure of imagination,’ and all… ;-)
January 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pmI think it needs to be pointed out again and kept in mind the pastor’s riff is from an old Big Bill Bronzey song.
January 21st, 2009 at 3:14 pmIf I may add fuel to the fire regarding Rick Warren.
Here is man who wrote a book that I respect, but the person (and his beliefs regarding homosexuality) I don’t!
Many Christians believe (and I am among them) that sometimes to ask forgiveness one must humble oneself to achieve atonement.
When he prayed this “When we fail to treat our fellow human beings and all the earth with the respect that they deserve, forgive us.”, it is my belief he was humbling himself for forgiveness of his actions in front of millions.
I may be wrong.
January 21st, 2009 at 3:18 pmI will, though, be observing how he treats homosexuals now. And I will be the first to criticize if he hasn’t changed!
It is unfortunate that you (you know who you are) still see the color of skin before you consider others as human beings. Yes, I will keep teaching my children these values because I continue to look to the future and to continued improvement and positive change.
Do not presume that I am white or any other color. I live in Europe where being an American is not popular. We are looked down upon every day, refused services in public places and jeered at because of our origins and way of life whether white, black or any other race. Being American is enough in many cases to receive horrible remarks, comments and threats etc. You might try considering another point of view other than what is comfortable. Have you considered life in another country or from another perspective?
I am exceptionally proud and impressed over the last days events. President Obama is correct…it is the “we” that matters. The future matters. Those who live in constant resentment can not move forward and I believe that our eloquent president knows this as well. Rev. Lowry implies that whites do not know what is “right” and I respectfully disagree.
January 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pmWe should start a movement to shut Faux and Fox down.
January 21st, 2009 at 3:50 pmAll we have to do is put it on the ‘nope’ button of the remote.
Maybe a boycott of their sponsors would get someone’s attention?
It does sound like all the other “colors” would be better off if not for the devious “white” stopping them.
Sure, I know American history pretty well, so I know where he’s coming from. Still… he couldn’t come up with a rhyme with a more positive connotation?
January 21st, 2009 at 5:40 pmHRMP Says:
It is unfortunate that you (you know who you are) still see the color of skin before you consider others as human beings. Yes, I will keep teaching my children these values because I continue to look to the future and to continued improvement and positive change.
You’re going to tell them that all racism is in the past? I’m sure the racists will love that. Way to help them out there.
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HRMP Says:
I live in Europe where being an American is not popular. We are looked down upon every day, refused services in public places and jeered at because of our origins and way of life whether white, black or any other race. Being American is enough in many cases to receive horrible remarks, comments and threats etc.
For some reason this totally makes me giggle. Talk about your victimization politics…
January 21st, 2009 at 5:54 pmHad only white votes been counted, McCain/Palin would have defeated a clearly superior Obama/Biden by 10 points.
Yeah, I think white still has a ways to go.
January 21st, 2009 at 6:19 pm>>>>>>>I live in Europe where being an American is not popular. We are looked down upon every day, refused services in public places and jeered at because of our origins and way of life whether white, black or any other race. Being American is enough in many cases to receive horrible remarks, comments and threats etc.
I live in the Lao PDR. I make a lower middle-class income. I eat the local food, whatever is put in front of me, when I’m visiting. When I cook for myself, I use local ingredients. I respect the local customs. I’m working hard to learn to speak, read, and write the language (not so easy, anymore, at age 56).
January 21st, 2009 at 8:49 pmI’ve never been looked down on, or refused services in public places, though I’m white, and openly tell people I’m American. (I’ve never claimed to be Canadian, as I’ve heard many Americans have done.)
I’ve received remarks about my origins, that’s true, but they’ve never been “horrible” remarks, only questioning remarks — which I answer by showing people pictures of my lower middle class life in America, and explaining the struggles that lower-income people go through there.
I’ve NEVER received any horrible remarks about my way of life, probably because I try to fit in the best I can, here, in their country.
I wonder why you should be having so much trouble in Europe.
142. HRMP Says: It is unfortunate that you (you know who you are) still see the color of skin before you consider others as human beings.
You mean me because I asked if you were white. I do still see the color of skin, but more often than not it’s in consideration of the diletantes whose real-world experience leaves them staggeringly unqualified to pontificate on sociological/societal mores and their attendant prejudices.
Do not presume that I am white or any other color. I live in Europe where being an American is not popular. We are looked down upon every day, refused services in public places and jeered at because of our origins and way of life whether white, black or any other race. Being American is enough in many cases to receive horrible remarks, comments and threats etc.
“You’re living in the past. You should seriously should consider the positive changes that have happened in Europe as a result of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR). Values and constructive action of people have brought about these changes. Bush is gone, it is time to look forward.”
So, take your own advice.
January 21st, 2009 at 10:51 pmBeck outraged??? You must mistake this blogger for someone who gives a sh!t what this freak thinks, if he even thinks at all.
January 21st, 2009 at 11:46 pmBeck isn’t nearly as intelligent and knowledgeable as he pretends to be, so he relies instead on the theatrics of weird gyrations and odd facial expressions to keep his audience entertained. Frankly, he would be better suited for the Cartoon Network.
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:01 amI’m curious, who elected Obama? Oh, that’s right, white people. Funny how Rick Warren managed to say a prayer without offending anyone. Couldn’t Lowery have said a prayer of thanks that all of the great men of yore had wrought a work that had delivered the first black president to our nation? Is not President Obama the fulmination of King’s “Dream” speech? When White will embrace what is right? Who is it that changed our country, Chinese? I am a white man and I have nothing but a gigantic RACIST mark for Mr. Lowery. The rest of you can dabble in white guilt.
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:47 pmAh, hanshiro, can’t rebut bwrobida any better than that? He points out the obvious and you start referring to incest? Gay marriage supporter I presume? For your edification, he’s from planet earth U.S.A. You know, the only place in the world where a black man can become the most powerful man in the world? Got that, white guilt sufferer?
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 pm152. drew3rd Says: Ah, hanshiro, can’t rebut bwrobida any better than that?
That’s not a rebuttal, that’s disdain.
He points out the obvious and you start referring to incest?
My reference had just as much relevance as his stupidity.
You know, the only place in the world where a black man can become the most powerful man in the world? Got that, white guilt sufferer?
Correcting a distorting, dismissive gasbag has little relevance to guilt of any sort. The fact is his claim was flatly wrong.
It’s called “Inductive Fallacy.”
1.) President Barack Obama is black.
2.) A racist country would not elect a black man.
3.) Therefore, the U.S. is no longer racist.
There’s a reason they’re called Fallacies, buttcake. Christ, I wish the right-wing idioti possessed more challenging posters.
January 22nd, 2009 at 2:09 pmAs a moderate, white republican who actually voted for Obama, I realize now the truth in the criticism of the extreme left. The venemous hatred of “the right” I’ve seen spewn all over sites like theis doesn’t exist on “right-wing” sites, unless you believe that all conservatives troll the neo-nazi stuff. Obama won on a platform of unity, yet many of you represent the worst of what he is trying to overcome (from both sides). no wonder you have no credibility in your own party (note Obama’s move to the center already) much less the greater country.
And yes I was offended by the Rev’s remarks. Racism and stereotyping work in both directions. A lot of white embrace right and have for centuries – any of you every hear of abolitionists, The Civil EWar, civil rights movement? how bout the plain old decency that most of us exhibit to each other every day.
You believe you ae elite, above those “idiots” on the right, when in reality, you are just as lost as those you condemn. Obama doesn’t stand a chance with “friends” like you.
January 22nd, 2009 at 4:15 pmds01, I’m with you!
January 22nd, 2009 at 4:47 pmAs a white moderate, I, too, found Lowery’s words to be insulting. Racism is a disgrace and his words were racist. Period.
In my home, race is a NON-issue. My children (5 & 7) do not respond to color. It is the same difference as tall or blonde or thin to them. In addition we have friends that are “minorities”, biracial, multiracial and we host a LEGAL family here from Peru.
Most whites are NOT racist. Many are, yes. But so are many Blacks, Asians, Hispanics….you name it. But the majority of people on the globe are decent and considerate.
If you watch the camera closely, President Obama’s grin fades a bit after he realized what exactly Rev. Lowery actually said. I don’t think Obama thought it was appropriate or funny. In light of this, President Obama should apologize for the words of his guest.
Ignoring it degrades the message of one-ness and hope.
155. VAgal Says: As a white moderate, I, too…heehaw..heehaw..In light of this, President Obama should apologize for the words of his guest.
Keep dreaming, you right-wing poof-tah.
154. ds01 Says: As a moderate, white republican
155. VAgal Says: As a white moderate,
Oh, and drew3rd, if you’re going to go with multiple profiles, you need to switch up the script. Too close, inbred.
January 22nd, 2009 at 5:33 pmHanshiro,
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:53 pmI am so embarrassed for you. Your attempt at profound is pathetic at best.
In a land of many faces and beliefs, too far right or left doesn’t help anyone.
You are obviously a minority; not in the decent and considerate crowd. Go find some other place to spew your hatred. This site is for progressive thought.
i believe that all the references to the colors of people are absolutely racist, i don’t see any birth certificates with the color of yellow on it. I also took great offense and found his last remark about whites extremely racist and i am offended by it. He should think about this – how many blacks voted for obama because he is black and no nothing about his politics – they only see one thing color – just like the reverend.
January 24th, 2009 at 5:58 pmI am a democrat, farther left than right and have voted democrat most of my life including for Obama. I don’t know how you can interpret the benediction comments to be other than racist. The man was speaking of the present, not the past. If we are so racist against blacks then Obama would not have been elected. Most whites I know voted for him. Unfortunately as we should be coming together there are those that are going to drive us back 200 years. I don’t think anything will be accomplished other than electing an extremist white in 4 years unless blacks stop being racist against whites. I have a dream that one day blacks will stop blaming whites for everything bad in the world. Mhm Hmm, Mhm Hmm.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:15 pm