Comments on: Cornyn delays Holder’s confirmation to make sure Bush administration isn’t prosecuted for torture. http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:57:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Yankeluh http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-5446576 Yankeluh Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:04:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5446576 I am embarrassed that John Cornyn was re-elected to represent Texas in the Senate. When the investigations start concerning the last eight years, I sincerely hope people will remember Cornyns threat against the judiciary. I am embarrassed that John Cornyn was re-elected to represent Texas in the Senate. When the investigations start concerning the last eight years, I sincerely hope people will remember Cornyns threat against the judiciary.

]]> By: lvdragonlady http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-5446062 lvdragonlady Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:21:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5446062 Cornyn is just one more OLD MAN that needs to call it a generation and retire. Your day is done and gone and now it is time for you to leave. There is a NEW generation running the country now. Cornyn is just one more OLD MAN that needs to call it a generation and retire. Your day is done and gone and now it is time for you to leave.
There is a NEW generation running the country now.

]]> By: nickrhoward http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-5445780 nickrhoward Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:05:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5445780 The Bush maladministration defined torture as something causing damage approaching organ failure or death. That means that applying electricity to genitals and ripping out fingernails wouldn't be considered torture under their definition of torture. But didn't over 100 people die during these "enhanced interrogations"? How is it that those people were not TORTURED TO DEATH? The Bush maladministration defined torture as something causing damage approaching organ failure or death.

That means that applying electricity to genitals and ripping out fingernails wouldn’t be considered torture under their definition of torture.

But didn’t over 100 people die during these “enhanced interrogations”? How is it that those people were not TORTURED TO DEATH?

]]> By: House of Roberts http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-5444836 House of Roberts Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:44:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5444836 realpatriot at 7:26 pm Ever notice how insane politicians from Texas are…? LBJ GBush 1 and 2 Tom Delay Cornyn One rebuttle point to that statement: <a href="http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/annrichards1988dnc.htm" rel="nofollow">Governor Ann Richards</a> realpatriot at 7:26 pm
Ever notice how insane politicians from Texas are…?
LBJ
GBush 1 and 2
Tom Delay
Cornyn

One rebuttle point to that statement:
Governor Ann Richards

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-5444832 Wayne A. Schneider Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:38:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5444832 I don't if anyone already posted it, but here is Sen Cornyn's contact form: http://cornyn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.ContactForm Let him know what you think. I certainly will. It's my obligation as a citizen. And I take this obligation freely , without mental reservation or purpose of evasion, unlike Sen Cornyn. I don’t if anyone already posted it, but here is Sen Cornyn’s contact form:

http://cornyn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.ContactForm

Let him know what you think. I certainly will. It’s my obligation as a citizen. And I take this obligation freely , without mental reservation or purpose of evasion, unlike Sen Cornyn.

]]> By: nofltwlt http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-5444614 nofltwlt Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:12:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5444614 So Cronyn thinks Bush is above the law. Does he think Bin Laden is above the law? Does Cronyn think it is he and not the AG who should decide who to prosecute? So Cronyn thinks Bush is above the law. Does he think Bin Laden is above the law? Does Cronyn think it is he and not the AG who should decide who to prosecute?

]]> By: wizard2000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-5444550 wizard2000 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 02:52:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5444550 Well, we at least now know that Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) was lying when he swore to uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution. Of course, he'd vehemently disagree, even though he stood idly by while the corrupt and criminal Bush/Cheney administration overthrew federal and international laws banning torture, turning everyday that a detainee has been in custody into an episode of "24". (I've never watched a single episode of "24". I recognized just from the description of its fictional format that "24" was just a right-wing propaganda program. One has to wonder, though, why Kiefer Sutherland continues in his role as the fictional Jack Bauer instead of telling the show's producers to go shove it, to go waterboard themselves. I guess money trumps principle and integrity once again, making "24" a perfect match to the Bush/Cheney administration). Well, we at least now know that Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) was lying when he swore to uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution.

Of course, he’d vehemently disagree, even though he stood idly by while the corrupt and criminal Bush/Cheney administration overthrew federal and international laws banning torture, turning everyday that a detainee has been in custody into an episode of “24″. (I’ve never watched a single episode of “24″. I recognized just from the description of its fictional format that “24″ was just a right-wing propaganda program. One has to wonder, though, why Kiefer Sutherland continues in his role as the fictional Jack Bauer instead of telling the show’s producers to go shove it, to go waterboard themselves. I guess money trumps principle and integrity once again, making “24″ a perfect match to the Bush/Cheney administration).

]]> By: helenahandbasket http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-5444542 helenahandbasket Thu, 22 Jan 2009 02:47:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5444542 I suspect that if they were torturing in "good faith" (whatever the hell that means. I was only following orders or something along those lines?), they won't be prosecuted. But if they said a big FY to the Geneva Convention and our laws, throw them in jail. I suspect that if they were torturing in “good faith” (whatever the hell that means. I was only following orders or something along those lines?), they won’t be prosecuted. But if they said a big FY to the Geneva Convention and our laws, throw them in jail.

]]> By: ElBruce http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-5444462 ElBruce Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:41:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5444462 Actually I think Holder can get by just fine with the old "I can't comment on hypothetical situations" line. God knows it's worked for enough Republicans in the past. Actually I think Holder can get by just fine with the old “I can’t comment on hypothetical situations” line. God knows it’s worked for enough Republicans in the past.

]]> By: curious http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-3/#comment-5444446 curious Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:32:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5444446 Well he would try and subvert the process wouldn't he? God help me, I am so fed up with the lot of them. Same old thing time after time. The obstruction of anything and everything that smacks of accountability. They hate Democracy. Well he would try and subvert the process wouldn’t he?

God help me, I am so fed up with the lot of them. Same old thing time after time. The obstruction of anything and everything that smacks of accountability. They hate Democracy.

]]> By: winddancer http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-5444094 winddancer Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:32:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5444094 Cornyn is protecting himself. Check out the subcommittees he's on, as well as the Judiciary Committee. He knew plenty, supported it and no doubt, helped cover it up. Subcommittee On Human Rights and the Law http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/subcommittees/110... Subcommittee On Immigration, Refugees and Border Security - Ranking Member http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/subcommittees/110... Subcommittee On Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/subcommittees/110... Subcommittee On The Constitution http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/subcommittees/110... Cornyn is protecting himself. Check out the subcommittees he’s on, as well as the Judiciary Committee. He knew plenty, supported it and no doubt, helped cover it up.

Subcommittee On Human Rights and the Law
http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/subcommittees/110...

Subcommittee On Immigration, Refugees and Border Security – Ranking Member
http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/subcommittees/110...

Subcommittee On Terrorism, Technology and Homeland Security
http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/subcommittees/110...

Subcommittee On The Constitution
http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/subcommittees/110…

]]> By: realpatriot http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-5444036 realpatriot Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:26:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5444036 Ever notice how insane politicians from Texas are...? LBJ GBush 1 and 2 Tom Delay Cornyn Ever notice how insane politicians from Texas are…?
LBJ
GBush 1 and 2
Tom Delay
Cornyn

]]> By: osage http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-5443946 osage Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:11:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5443946 Apparently, it's going to take the GOP leadership a few ass whippings before they develop humility and or acceptance of their minority position. They are in the minority because the majority of voters rejected their irresponsible and reckless support for George W. Bush's destructive policies, transparent lies and cover-ups of his administration’s malfeasance. Republicans didn't grant Democrats equality or compromise what they wanted when they we in the majority. Why should the Democrats self-destructively accommodate them and or perpetuate the political philosophies and moral values of arrogance, incompetence, negligence, subversion and failure when the voters elected them to do otherwise? Mr. Cornyn and his pip-squeak obstructionist ilk can continue to voice their rejected views and exemplify the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of their callous and mercenary elitist values, but Republicans expecting Democrats to give them what they want at the expense of what the voters want is ridiculously arrogant and politically self-destructive. The only thing Republicans are going to get is the option of jumping on the bandwagon and giving the voters what they want or being ground to dust under the wheels of American governmental progress. The days when the common good is ignored in favor of political and corporate greed are over. The Republicans don't seem to have realized they've awakened a sleeping giant with the moral and political authority to allow them to cooperate and be treated with compassion or to rebel and be treated with benign indifference. Frankly, I find their contrived "mouse that roared" chutzpah delightfully bemusing. Apparently, it’s going to take the GOP leadership a few ass whippings before they develop humility and or acceptance of their minority position. They are in the minority because the majority of voters rejected their irresponsible and reckless support for George W. Bush’s destructive policies, transparent lies and cover-ups of his administration’s malfeasance. Republicans didn’t grant Democrats equality or compromise what they wanted when they we in the majority. Why should the Democrats self-destructively accommodate them and or perpetuate the political philosophies and moral values of arrogance, incompetence, negligence, subversion and failure when the voters elected them to do otherwise? Mr. Cornyn and his pip-squeak obstructionist ilk can continue to voice their rejected views and exemplify the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of their callous and mercenary elitist values, but Republicans expecting Democrats to give them what they want at the expense of what the voters want is ridiculously arrogant and politically self-destructive. The only thing Republicans are going to get is the option of jumping on the bandwagon and giving the voters what they want or being ground to dust under the wheels of American governmental progress. The days when the common good is ignored in favor of political and corporate greed are over. The Republicans don’t seem to have realized they’ve awakened a sleeping giant with the moral and political authority to allow them to cooperate and be treated with compassion or to rebel and be treated with benign indifference. Frankly, I find their contrived “mouse that roared” chutzpah delightfully bemusing.

]]> By: rainsan http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-5443834 rainsan Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:50:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5443834 Who cares? Hillary was only confirmed with 94 Senators. Two Rethugs jerks voted against her, too. He is just one guy. Who cares? Hillary was only confirmed with 94 Senators. Two Rethugs jerks voted against her, too. He is just one guy.

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-5443766 sacopenapa Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:25:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5443766 If the US does not pressecute Bush/Chenney & Co. it will never regain its moral and ethical international status again. Never! It will be up to an International court to bring the war criminals to justice! All we want is JUSTICE! Not revange! If the rule of law get to hold accountable for war crimes Bush/Chnney & Co., that should be sifficient! Not less, not more! HAGUE NOW! If the US does not pressecute Bush/Chenney & Co. it will never regain its moral and ethical international status again. Never! It will be up to an International court to bring the war criminals to justice!
All we want is JUSTICE! Not revange! If the rule of law get to hold accountable for war crimes Bush/Chnney & Co., that should be sifficient! Not less, not more!
HAGUE NOW!

]]> By: wolfsinger http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-5443748 wolfsinger Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:17:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5443748 Cornyn is the new face of the Christian right Republican agenda. An agenda that is totally broken and morally bankrupt. I think it is wonderful that this empty suit of a Senator from Texas wants to lead the discussion of Bush administration torture. Lets all listen to him. The more he opens his big stupid mouth, the more the world will know that he and every single one of the Bush enablers knew full well that what they were doing was illegal and a war crime. Let Kyl jump in. Limbaugh and Hannity too. Let this band of goose stepping jack-booted thugs have their say. Cornyn is afraid people! AFRAID! If the Dem leadership was smart, they would find a way to make Cornyn and his mindless rubber stamp Bush voting record the focus of these hearings. Then, after Cornyn has hammered the final nail into the Christian right Republican agenda under the glare of Senate lights for all the world to see to see, it will be REPUBLICANS who will call for Bush and Company to be brought up on war crimes and acts of Treason. Just like the final Nixon days - to save what was left of their party. Cornyn is the new face of the Christian right Republican agenda. An agenda that is totally broken and morally bankrupt. I think it is wonderful that this empty suit of a Senator from Texas wants to lead the discussion of Bush administration torture. Lets all listen to him. The more he opens his big stupid mouth, the more the world will know that he and every single one of the Bush enablers knew full well that what they were doing was illegal and a war crime. Let Kyl jump in. Limbaugh and Hannity too. Let this band of goose stepping jack-booted thugs have their say. Cornyn is afraid people! AFRAID! If the Dem leadership was smart, they would find a way to make Cornyn and his mindless rubber stamp Bush voting record the focus of these hearings. Then, after Cornyn has hammered the final nail into the Christian right Republican agenda under the glare of Senate lights for all the world to see to see, it will be REPUBLICANS who will call for Bush and Company to be brought up on war crimes and acts of Treason. Just like the final Nixon days – to save what was left of their party.

]]> By: EugeneDebs http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-5443728 EugeneDebs Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:10:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5443728 Let justice be done though the Heavens fall. Let justice be done though the Heavens fall.

]]> By: misshusseinmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-5443714 misshusseinmolly Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:03:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5443714 liukas Says January 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm There won’t be any trials because there were no crimes commited. ____________________________________________________________ If there were no crimes committed, Cornyn has nothing to be afraid of from an honest AG. So could you explain to us why he's going to great lengths to hold up the works? Why would he risk looking this guilty if there's nothing to be guilty of? liukas Says
January 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm

There won’t be any trials because there were no crimes commited.
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If there were no crimes committed, Cornyn has nothing to be afraid of from an honest AG. So could you explain to us why he’s going to great lengths to hold up the works? Why would he risk looking this guilty if there’s nothing to be guilty of?

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-5443712 Buckie Boy Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:01:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5443712 cromulent Says: Something very smart...good call on that one. cromulent Says: Something very smart…good call on that one.

]]> By: politicscorner http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/comment-page-2/#comment-5443704 politicscorner Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:01:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/21/cornyn-holder-torture/#comment-5443704 If that's the deal, let's bring it out in the open, Cornyn. If that's the deal, NO DEAL! Prosecute the torturers all the way to the top! If that’s the deal, let’s bring it out in the open, Cornyn.

If that’s the deal, NO DEAL!

Prosecute the torturers all the way to the top!

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