Unable To Come Up With Real Reasons To Oppose Economic Recovery, Hutchison Goes Into Auto-Attack
Unable To Come Up With Real Reasons To Oppose Economic Recovery, Hutchison Goes Into Auto-Attack
Caving to right-wing flailing and conservatives’ anti-abortion fear machine, President Obama is reportedly pressuring House Democrats to strip family planning funding from its economic recovery proposal — even though it would potentially save $700 million over 10 years.
This afternoon, MSNBC’s David Shuster pressed Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) about the provision, pointing out that it would help relieve states of some health care costs. Apparently unable to respond, Hutchinson launched a reflexive and knee-jerk attack on the recovery plan, defaulting to the first opposition point she could think of:
SHUSTER: When you give them [states] money to help with Medicare, it means that the states that have to balance their own budgets won’t have to spend as much of their own money to try to pour into Medicare because people are hurting.
HUTCHISON: Well, one of the big problems I have with this bill is that you don’t know which states it’s going to, there’s no allocation, it’s just going to be in the agencies and the bureaucracies to make these decisions.
Watch it:
With the family planning provision now off the table, Hutchison seemed desperate to find another reason to oppose the bill. However, the claim she stumbled onto — that “there’s no allocation” of the recovery funds — is laughably inaccurate. USA Today clearly broke down where the $200 billion in state aid would go (click through for state-by-state details):
The truth is that despite Obama’s compromise efforts, the right wing will always find a bogus reason to oppose the recovery plan, whether it’s too few corporate tax cuts, too little payback to the rich, or too much grass on the National Mall.
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And it makes a huge difference which states might be targeted because?
January 27th, 2009 at 8:35 pmUnable To Come Up With Real Reasons To Oppose Economic Recovery, Hutchison Goes Into Auto-Attack»
– - KBH is the female Foghorn Leghorn in Congress.
January 27th, 2009 at 8:42 pmI wonder how flippant Hutchinson would be if her health care were taken away. In fact, that sounds like a good way to wake her up.
January 27th, 2009 at 8:42 pmI’m interested to know which states she does not want funding to go to.
January 27th, 2009 at 8:49 pmWere her lips moving? If they were, well, you know …
January 27th, 2009 at 8:49 pmThree days after receiving $25 billion in federal bailout funds, Bank of America Corp. hosted a conference call with conservative activists and business officials to organize opposition to the U.S. labor community’s top legislative priority.
Participants on the October 17 call — including at least one representative from another bailout recipient, AIG — were urged to persuade their clients to send “large contributions” to groups working against the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA), as well as to vulnerable Senate Republicans, who could help block passage of the bill.
What is it going to take to make these rich basturds realize that they are wealthy because of working people!!
January 27th, 2009 at 8:54 pmThe truth is that despite Obama’s compromise efforts, the right wing will always find a bogus reason to oppose the recovery plan, whether it’s too few corporate tax cuts, too little payback to the rich, or too much grass on the National Mall.
E N O U G H !
January 27th, 2009 at 8:56 pmHutchison is another worthless person, doubly so because she is repugniscum.
She speaks from both sides of her two-faced persona.
They complain that poor people have too many children and tax the system, but they refuse them contraception and family planning.
She can’t even come up with a good reason!! She just does it.
January 27th, 2009 at 8:57 pmThere is a reason Kay Bailey is known in Texas as the Breck Girl. Although the reference is probably too old for most people to get it.
girls in shampoo ads:
January 27th, 2009 at 8:58 pmgirls in shampoo ads:
http://www.tias.com/3943/InventoryPage/1905462/1.html
(using the tags didn’t work)
January 27th, 2009 at 8:59 pmi do understand why it’s important to have bipartisan support…
there are big bills coming that will benefit…
but jeez…
January 27th, 2009 at 9:00 pmPoor Kay . . . a rabid Republiscum with no good reason to OPPOSE rebuilding AMERICA . . . makes rootin’ for Chip Saltsman almost MANDATORY . . .
January 27th, 2009 at 9:00 pmI suppose my biggest question for the GOP and its talk radio salesmen is: now that BushCo is gone, who e-mails you the daily talking points?
http://jackrabbitcafe.blogspot.com
January 27th, 2009 at 9:06 pmThe right wing’s reasons are always bogus.
Worried about one part and the whole funding is cut, but people dying doesn’t bring opposition to funding war. Why is only one pro-life and the other is collateral damage? Are they really against planning?
January 27th, 2009 at 9:19 pmLTdan Says:
Hes right
January 27th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison? That “he”?
January 27th, 2009 at 9:23 pmWayne, sounds like another Republican with gender issues.
January 27th, 2009 at 9:27 pmLTDan is referring to comment #6, obviously.
January 27th, 2009 at 9:32 pmI think that is the point to their resistance!
January 27th, 2009 at 9:33 pmRead “The Wrecking Crew” by Thomas Frank. These Republicans hate America and are out to destroy us all. Obama better start understanding that, or we will go down. I just wonder who will continue to enrich the rich when all of us are dead from preventable illness, or starvation. Which third world county in the U.S. do you live in? By the way Sen. Hutchison was a secretary who was willing to sell her soul to the devils to gain power. They are all like that. Morals? What morals?
January 27th, 2009 at 9:33 pmHUTCHISON: Well, one of the big problems I have with this bill is that you don’t know which states it’s going to, there’s no allocation, it’s just going to be in the agencies and the bureaucracies to make these decisions.
..whereas the no-oversight, no guidelines, no safeguards, no allocation, 3-page $700 billion bailout Hutchison just voted for makes excellent sense…
Time for the ‘Rubber Room Roundup.’
January 27th, 2009 at 9:35 pmWhen all else fails, the Republicans gotta go all incomprehensible on our asses. They have nothing else left.
-AF
January 27th, 2009 at 9:37 pmAndrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
Wonderful… and as a DIRECT result, we will end up w/ more teenage pregnancies, more abortions, more welfare moms, and more fatherless families, w/ the greater percentages of those happening in RED STATES.
Charming…
January 27th, 2009 at 9:43 pmKaty,
About how that bipartisanship is working out: I was just over at “USNews.com” reading a piece about Obama’s meeting with Republicans today and was caught by the first three comments from readers:
So, for “playing nice” it has lead the right to think the Dems know the plan will fail, that Obama is a baby and that Repubs are being too nice… Seems the ice in their veins just won’t thaw no matter what you do.
January 27th, 2009 at 9:47 pmHutchinson is a tool, no doubt.
I think that, since we as taxpayers are footing the bill for this whole shopping trip, shouldn’t we get to see a complete reciept? I would really like to see where every cent, past stimulus and present, are spent. My daughter is 3, and she should be able to see (in several years) why she lives in a country thats is broke. I know I’m wishing, but am I wrong about this?
January 27th, 2009 at 9:57 pmJohn Boehner from Ohio feels his State doesn’t need any help and even Mitch McConnel doesn’t feel taxpayers of Kentucky need any money right now. Even Eric Cantor doesn’t need a bailout for the State of Virgina. I guess Republicans really aren’t interested in the citizens of their States but more interesting in getting kick backs for themselves. No wonder we’re broke with the Bush plan of giving all the money to everyone but the taxpayers.
January 27th, 2009 at 9:58 pmThis quote from Stupid Git’s comment:
It never ceases to amaze me how deluded these people are, and how little they understand simple math. The Democrats won the White House by a huge electoral margin, and they won major increases in both Houses! By what twisted logic do they cling to the belief that this is a “center-right country”?
And that cryptic line “We can’t just kill them with kindness” suggests to me that the poster might be alluding to the idea that there has to be a different way to “kill them”. They like to use violent metaphors, so there’s no reason to automatically assume that this wasn’t just another thinly-veiled one.
The second guy was clearly taking dictation from Rush Limbaugh. They think Obama is afraid of Rush, because he warned the Republicans not to listen to him. Obama said what he did because Rush is the divisive extremist who wants to destroy any chance of helping America recover. Didn’t he just sign a $400 million contract? He doesn’t have to worry about where his next meal is coming from. (Fill in your own joke here.)
January 27th, 2009 at 9:58 pmSince all they can offer are ridiculous objections, they must have no rational ones. They should be disregarded all together.
We should only consider what is rational. We’ve been saddled with irrational for far too long.
January 27th, 2009 at 10:00 pmYou are right, Wayne. ‘Killing us with kindness’, indeed! Personally, my retirement accounts felt how their policies have been killing me, but I felt no kindness. I can think of no examples of kind behavior to liberals these past 8 years.
January 27th, 2009 at 10:04 pmseems rachel may have gotten quite a scoop tonight…
January 27th, 2009 at 10:05 pmdid blago admit to her a crime? sounded like it…
stay tuned…
Governor Hutchison
’nuff said
January 27th, 2009 at 10:05 pmCaving to right-wing flailing and conservatives’ anti-abortion fear machine, President Obama is reportedly pressuring House Democrats to strip family planning funding from its economic recovery proposal — even though it would potentially save $700 million over 10 years.
Why do Republicans hate families?
January 27th, 2009 at 10:12 pmIt was the fifth mass death of a Southern California family by murder or suicide in a year. Police urged those facing tough economic times to get help rather than resort to violence.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/27/ervin-antonio-lupoe-kills_n_161446.html
How many stories like this do we have to read before someone “GETS IT”?
January 27th, 2009 at 10:22 pmstupid git – the delusion never ceases to amaze…
but the parallels between all our gripes are sometimes spooky…
January 27th, 2009 at 10:26 pmhow can we all be so far apart at the same time…?
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January 27th, 2009 at 10:27 pmYes but think of the economic boost offered by the increased handgun sales…
#36, I do hope you’re being snarky, but snark is not appropriate here. Those five children were all under 8. Babies. Killed because Mom and Dad lost their jobs and opted for their death rather than having someone else provide their care. Couple this with the article earlier today about the 93 YO man who froze to death, in his home, after his electricity was shut off. When found, he had the $$ clipped to the bills for payment.
I do believe we’re in for some terrible times, with terrible stories. Please… look after your neighbors and give what little you can, it just might make a real difference in their lives…
January 27th, 2009 at 10:39 pmdo these goppers practice or take lessons in how to use impressive and many words but say absolutely nothing?
January 27th, 2009 at 10:39 pmDoesn’t matter, the Dems apparently went ahead and stripped the Medicare family-planning funding anyways. Because apparently the Republicans are still in charge of everything. You know, the “pick your battles” philosophy only works if you actually ever win battles.
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Theresa Says:
Couple this with the article earlier today about the 93 YO man who froze to death, in his home, after his electricity was shut off. When found, he had the $$ clipped to the bills for payment.
I’ve noticed that since the credit freeze, a lot of companies are shortening the forgiveness policies regarding past-due-date payments. Credit card companies call sooner, etc. This sounds like it might be a result of just such a change.
January 27th, 2009 at 10:48 pmis THIS what has ed henry in a snit?
Obama taking attention away from where it belongs: the White House press corps
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CNN’s crack reporter Ed Henry was especially angry: “It is ironic, the same day that the president is talking about transparency, we were not let in.”
http://www.236.com/news/2009/01/23/press_complaining_about_obama_11170.php
January 27th, 2009 at 10:49 pm“Permanent tax cuts for business such as a reduced corporate tax rate will also fail. The track record for such steps is poor in general, but they are particularly ill-suited for a recessionary period. After all, the reason that businesses and individuals are not investing at the moment has little to do with the taxes they may pay in the future and everything to do with a fear of losing money because there is no demand in the economy, asset prices are highly volatile, and credit is hard to come by”.I like the part about nobody is investing and has little to do with taxes.As I see it a wealty person making $1million is going to spend a lot less of their check than me with my tiny $40,000,I need the tax cuts not the wealthy.Phuck the Reich and their ideology,my god why do you people on the right hate Obama,the middle class and America so much?
January 27th, 2009 at 10:54 pm#39, El Bruce,
This has nothing to do with the credit “freeze”. This poor man lived in Michigan and the Powers That Be decided to install some sort of switch on his electrical box that tripped his fuse box to turn off his heat when he hit a predetermined wattage (i.e., heat kicking on). He had lights, but no heat.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:03 pmYeah, BushitCo reached out across the aisle a lot during their 8 miserable years. Forget your whining ass glez, be a patriotic American and support your government.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:21 pmHere’s hoping she loses the Race for Texas governor. Then we will be rid of her and she can go work with her rich hubby at the law firm of Vinson & Elkins, which was hired by Kenny “boy” Lay and Enron.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:23 pmThey whine about deficit spending when the President is R and we are at war.
No, we whine about deficit spending when the president launches an illegal and immorally sold war against a nation that did not attack us, and refuses to try to bring it to an end.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:25 pmMagickMuffin Says:
Here’s hoping she loses the Race for Texas governor. Then we will be rid of her and she can go work with her rich hubby at the law firm of Vinson & Elkins, which was hired by Kenny “boy” Lay and Enron.
Do you think they know which tropical island Kenny Boy is hiding out on?
January 27th, 2009 at 11:31 pmglezzery Says:
“4 billion to ACORN and 650 million for rubbers is not economic stimulus, but political pork.”
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Per mediamatters.org:
“In fact, the bill contains no language mentioning ACORN. The false claim is based on a misrepresentation of a provision that would appropriate $4,190,000,000 “for neighborhood stabilization activities related to emergency assistance for the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed homes as authorized under division B, title III of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008.” The provision requires that money will be distributed through competitive processes.”
January 27th, 2009 at 11:35 pmThe GOP should just eliminate all of the blather and cut to the chase, and when asked why they oppose the stimulus package, they should simply reply” “cuz….”
January 27th, 2009 at 11:35 pmglezzery Says:
The GOP should play nice and support Obama on par with the Democrats nice and supportive help for Bush!
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Oh PUL-LEASE… that is just EMBARRASSINGLY silly.
Botch had a 92% approval rating after 9/11 and foolishly frittered it away on nonsense. The Dems bowed over backwards and gave him everything he wanted until it simply got too painful to go along w/ it anymore.
And MSM were shameful synchophants to this entire mess.
It’s one thing to have a valid point to make, Glezz, but yer just pulling tripe outta yer Cheney when you post comments like this one.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:40 pmThe Presidency isn’t a popularity contest.
Neither is Congress.
Is that why the Republicans got their butts kicked in the last election?
January 27th, 2009 at 11:43 pmglezzery Says:
MediaMatters?
January 27th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
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January 27th, 2009 at 11:46 pmYes – journalists who actually do research. I realize that may seem foreign to you…
glezzery Says:
It’s called HYPOCRISY.
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And your comment called is STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.
Botch NEVER asked anyone to make a sacrifice during a time of “war” (more like an illegal, unnecessary, and ultimately disastrous invasion). He told them to SHOPPING! Pretty F-in’ HEROIC, huh? And he CUT taxes to boot.
Talk about asinine. And no one complains about Obama’s recovery plan?
F- yes we do, you stone idiot. I don’t like it at all, but someone has to clean up the mess Botch left in his wake. Adults always have to pick up after the children, Glezz, like we do after you.
You really must trying “making sense” for your own good.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:46 pmglezzery Says:
I suppose next you will want me to change what i believe in so i appear COOL and Right on to you!?!?!
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You’ve left the planet, Glezz and you’re now flying thru space. No doubt, you’ll end up in orbit around Ur@nus… along w/ all the other GOOPers.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:48 pm*Quack* We need to hold the line! *Quack*
*Hee-Haw* If we support this bill, we’ll lose seats in 2010!!! *Hee-Haw*
Why can’t the Republicans in both houses act in the best interests of all of their constituents? The last I checked, supporting a minority got the GOP into minority status.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:48 pmThanks, glezzary. Nothing like a few facts to keep everyone sober. I am a resident of TX and feel I must defend KBH…but there is no freakin’ way! You cannot defend the indefensible. She is running for Gov. If she wins, I will start a movement to sell the whole state to Mexico.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:50 pmglezzery, a lot of us here are Vets. What’s your point?
January 27th, 2009 at 11:50 pmglezzery Says:
Bush didnt ask us to sacrifice!
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He told people to go shopping. It’s a fact.
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Bush is a divider, not a uniter!
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Actually he united the whole world, Glezz. By the end, we ALL hated him.
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I have heard this silly nonsense for years and it is still lame!
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Then stop listening to yourself. And that “cool” thingy you mentioned above.
You’ll NEVER have to worry about that. Heh… trust me. NEVER.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:53 pmIt goes both ways, slacker.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:53 pmglezzery Says:
4 billion to ACORN…
Thanks for the heads-up on the next upcoming wingnut lie.
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glezzery Says:
…and 650 million for rubbers is not economic stimulus, but political pork.
$650M for “rubbers?” That’s Medicaid spending, some of which includes family planning services, which includes pre-natal care. Why do you hate babies?
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glezzery Says:
Folks here whine about Tax Cuts, though will be a part of the recovery bill!
They whine about deficit spending when the President is R and we are at war.
When its Obama’s trillion dollars? Not a ****ing peep from the left.
Tax cuts for the rich =/= tax cuts for the middle class. Unfortunately, Obama’s promised middle class tax cuts aren’t going into the recovery bill. Whine!
The R President lied so he could start an unnecessary war, which was a big factor in inflating the deficit. Whine!
We already knew Obama would have to spend up to a trillion to fix the mess Bush left us. Peep!
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glezzery Says:
The GOP should play nice and support Obama on par with the Democrats nice and supportive help for Bush!
You expect 7 years of hate speech…
The GOP should get out of the way and let us fix the mess they made.
You don’t even know what hate speech is, do you?
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glezzery Says:
MediaMatters?
LMAO! A one stop “Progressive” idea mill!
LYAO! If you can disprove any of their cited facts ever, please try to do so! I’d like to see that.
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glezzery Says:
Do you mean Bush would have stayed there (at 90%) if he had done nothing!??!
It would have helped if everything he did wasn’t completely insanely wrong all the time. A crisis is the last time to have a “special needs” President.
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glezzery Says:
The Presidency isn’t a popularity contest.
Neither is Congress.
I don’t know about you, but I live in a democracy. If you don’t want to, please leave.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:54 pmLet the flagging begin, folks.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:55 pmglezzery is the type that wants insurance to cover guys getting their erection pills, but women not having half the coverage to stop the end result nine months later.
It’s that type of logic that is so damning of today’s Republican party. Take a life in another nation in the name of freedom, but not let another person live their life happily here.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:56 pmIsn’t that why your are with the conservative right wingers?
January 27th, 2009 at 11:57 pmglezzery Says:
And i don’t.
Why would i try to garner compliments from a hostile psychotic group of hate mongers.
Please close the second window you have open to TownHall.com.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:59 pmIsn’t that why you hang out with right wingers?
January 28th, 2009 at 12:00 amglezzery Says:
WOW, isn’t this some POOT!
Got me all figured out hey?
You are a presumptuous troll.
You are trolling, that is all.
Let me guess, someone killed your bible preaching character on Second Life so you have now decided to deliver upon us a troll reckoning?
You might want to rethink your strategy.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:01 amI always find it amusing when trolls accuse us of being trolls.
It’s like the kid in school with greasy hair, bad breath, meatball stains on his shirt and shoes untied, calling a normal kid a “slob”.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:02 amWell, you better cancel your Limbaugh membership then.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:03 amOf course not.
Of course you do.
There’s a lot of you folks around these days. makes me wonder who all voted for Bush in ‘04? It certainly wasn’t you “libertarians”.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:05 amSomebody’s meds are wearing off.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:07 amWant to try that one again, this time so it makes some sense?
January 28th, 2009 at 12:07 amWell, now that you have defined most of your posts you are making progress at understanding you are a troll.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:08 amglezzery Says:
And YES, i have many problems with George, but not the ones you complain about.
I condemned Bush 41 for not finishing the job on Saddam.
George H.W. Bush’s initiative was to liberate Kuwait, not attempt to take a wrecking ball to Iraq.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:08 amThen either you’re a Republican, or the Republicans can take your vote for granted.
Either way, you get your share of the blame for what they have wrought.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:09 amSeldom has such self-awareness been exhibited by a troll on this forum.
is it possible that there’s some hope for glezzy?
January 28th, 2009 at 12:10 amMuch. Now you sound like the phony “libertarian”/actual right-winger that your posting history demonstrates you to be. Congrats.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:11 amralph, possibly some hope after anger management and some self realization.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:11 amI vote for whomever is worthy enough of my vote.
I only play the party card when it comes to my Representative. I hate Brian Bilbray!
January 28th, 2009 at 12:11 amAgreed ralph. He just blew it.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:12 amglezzery Says:
Fascism, Socialism, Communism are all Leftist.
You might want to get a dictionary there for the first one, sparky.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:14 amIt really does reveal the depth of the right-wing bankruptcy of ideas and inability to accept facts when they insist on clinging to the mirage of the recession being the fault of the Democrats and Fannie Mae.
Goota say, those Democrats work quick, don’t they? All the six years’ hard work the Republicans put into building this “robust” economy, Nancy Pelosi trashed in eighteen months. If only she could use that incredible power for good…
January 28th, 2009 at 12:15 amglezzery Says:
Libertarian IS right WING!
You get a gold star!
We’d also have accepted “chicken wing” and “Admiral Limps” as answers.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:16 amI asked:
“Isn’t that why your are with the conservative right wingers?”
glezzery responded:
I don’t know what you are talking about.
WITH?
I am WITH no one.
I am conservative.
And now you say:
Libertarian IS right WING!
So you don’t know what I am talking about but you are a conservative right winger. Delusional much?
January 28th, 2009 at 12:17 amDon’t waste your time arguing w/ it. It’s just some freak who thrives on negative attention. Flag it and flush it.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:18 amComing from you, glez, that’s… well, not a compliment exactly, but it sure don’t mean anything bad. It’s actually kinda comical.
In point of fact, glez, my comment wasn’t “posing” as political discussion. It was intended as a comment on your performance here, which really isn’t political, it’s social. Whether intelligent or un, I will leave to the judgment of the good posters here at TP. I’m pretty comfortable in my level of discourse. Your approval is not really what I seek, nor is your condemnation much of a worry.
Thanks for the effort, though.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:19 amglezzery Says:
Yeah well, when you just insult folks, you act like a 12 year old.
You’re acting?! Or are you drunk?
January 28th, 2009 at 12:20 amFamily Planning sends wrong signals
January 28th, 2009 at 12:20 amYes, it is Frekin crazy. It also has trouble with reality. Probably as much as Vet as LtDan.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:21 amFamily planning is up to you and assistance is available
January 28th, 2009 at 12:22 amAnd why is there a scale with only two possibilities? Oh yeah, that’s right — the right wing binary mind.
Yeah, because no one who has studied a subject in academia for their entire career can ever have anything meaningful to say about it.
Tell us again why we should trust you guys with education?
January 28th, 2009 at 12:22 amHopefully glezzy’s high school has anger management classes. His trolley has jumped its tracks.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:23 amYeah. We can tell by the amount of time you take to prepare your comments — proofreading, fixing typos, making sure everything makes sense…
January 28th, 2009 at 12:25 amglezzery Says:
Are you an idiot? Just asking.
See how you like it!
You give me an answer with a question. That says enough about your intelligence. Plus I don’t quote Jonah Goldberg. So that makes me and about 95% of the nation smarter than you.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:27 amThere repugs go again, pulling shit out of their asses. No facts, no references, no clue.
President Obama has tried to work with the repugs, they don’t want to put the US on the right track. This is more of the same stupid chimpy playbill.
repugs are stupid for life.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:27 amTo fool the sheep. Simple. Unless, of course, you can point to a single socialist feature of Nazism…
Why do we have to go through this every time a troll comes here with a concept of fascism that he gleaned from the Doughy Pantload?
Read. Learn.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:27 amNo, I mean “we”. It’s pretty obvious that most of the commenters who are online right now recognize your level of seriousness.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:29 amralph, probably need to send pictures instead of text. This troll probably does better with comic books. Kind of like years ago how the Army had to use comic books to get the armored divisions to figure out how to do maintenance on their tanks.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:32 amYes, I’ve seen many folks who stumble over the use of language make themselves feel better by squealing that anyone who points it out is somehow deficient.
They never really explain why, but I guess that doesn’t matter, as long as they feel better about themselves.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:32 amI hope there is a paramedic unit close by glezzy’s place. He seems about to stroke out.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:35 amglezzery Says:
No, you were just fishing with loaded questions.
If you call those, “loaded questions” you must think Mary Hart asked the Obamas the toughest questions of the campaign season on Entertainment Tonight.
Are you really sure you and 95% of the nation are more intelligent than me?
You haven’t give me any reason to doubt that estimate. You’re like a “special” kid who runs around and yells. It’s cute for a while…and now it’s annoying.
At least i don’t need a Jonah Goldberg book to know totalitarian government when i see iT!!
No, you just need to see Jonah Goldberg on TV to know his Fascism is Democratic totalitarianism nonsense. I have a big inclination that Glenn Beck is appointment TV for ya.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:36 amOf course it does. Because, being a right-winger, you can’t imagine a community that isn’t in lock-step.
Welcome to the liberal blogosphere, where liberals and progressives have alls orts of different ideas about politics, society and the world, but because we can all see how serious glezzy is by his posts, glezzy figures we’re all “group think”.
Not much of an imagination there, glez.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:36 amAnd how savagely skewered by the rapier wit of glezzery! A response as full of substance and consequence as it is devastating in its cleverness!
Touché!
January 28th, 2009 at 12:39 amglezzy can only handle a single thread thought. Derail him and he goes all train wreck on us.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:39 amGive Daryll some credit…he could hate and do two threads at the same time.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:42 amY’know, I was thinking that same thing, LV, but then it occurred to me that part of glezzy’s problem may have been comic books — the wrong kind of comic books — when he was a kid, instead of reading his school books.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:43 amglezzery Says
glezzery Says
glezzery Says…
Ignore and don’t feed the troll
January 28th, 2009 at 12:47 amDammit, just when I think TP is under control, I find another thread that glezzery has crapped all over. I’ll get the bucket…
glezzery Says:
I dont hang on Rush’s every word.
He is an entertainer.
He says horrific things, advocating mass murder, racism and the complete impoverishment of America. I’d find it less repulsive if you agreed with him than if you found that “entertaining.”
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glezzery Says:
I can’t stand Hannity.
Ha ha, awesome.
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glezzery Says:
HA! Like is was going to vote for that loon Gore or that phony ass Kerry!
Libertarians don’t vote Democrat.
Right. “Libertarians” are just slaves to their Republican masters.
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glezzery Says:
Ill take it my portion of the blame, but that would require you look at the GREAT Democrat Fannie Mae scandal and admit Democrats COVERED up what was happening.
Fannie Mae didn’t cause the massive failure of the mortgage/banking/CDS-swap industries. The industries overall did, because of deregulation.
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glezzery Says:
Fascism, Socialism, Communism are all Leftist.
Except for fascism. That has always been a right-wing phenomenon. At least when it’s been tried in Italy, Germany, Spain, Romania, Japan and… well, yeah, everywhere. Right wing. Every time.
Calling fascism left wing would be like me claiming that communism is right wing. It’s just ridiculous.
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glezzery Says:
When your points are “you suck!”, you have nothing to say.
But what if you really do suck? Your suckage is relevant.
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glezzery Says:
On a political scale on one end TOTAL government and on the other NO government, where do Republicans and Libertarians fit?
There have been many right wing dictatorships. If you define yourself as being for “NO government,” then you are an anarchist. Please, defend anarchy. Let’s do that.
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glezzery Says:
Gee, you complain the Republicans are in the minority and still have some power and then turn around and argue Democrats had no power in the minority!?!?!
Our complaint about the Democrats in Congress, expressed many times here, is that they are not nearly as good at leveraging power when they get it as Republicans are. It seems that Republicans get their way whether they’re in the majority or not, and Democrats just take it and let them every time. This upsets us.
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Xisithrus Says:
Family planning is up to you and assistance is available
Actually, assistance with family planning is precisely what the Republicans are trying to stop. If they get their way, no assistance will be available to people who can’t afford it. That includes neo-natal care. Republicans hate babies.
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glezzery Says:
Well then tell me again why Mussolini and Hitler named there organs “SOCIALIST”?????
Huhh.
Explain to me what is right wing about Fascism?
Socialism then referred specifically to what we would call “corporatism” today – that is, a close working relationship between government and corporate interests. In both cases, many people switched back and forth between running companies and high government positions. The corporations supported the constant war efforts of the government, and the government favored the largest corporations with no-bid contracts. Fascism has always been also associated with strong nationalism and jingoism, an obsession with normative culture to the point of excluding all other cultural influences, unwarranted military aggression, and dividing the populace to pit the majority against all minorities.
Does any of that ring a bell?
January 28th, 2009 at 12:47 amIt doesn’t take group think for us to agree with ralph that glezzery is a moron. He repeats the lies of Fox News day after day even though the facts have been presented to him. Of course everybody lies but Fox to the brain dead.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:48 amIt’s not enough to ignore the idiot. He spams every thread he shows up on. Please FLAG the jerk.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:49 amTheresa Says:
Ignore and don’t feed the troll
Oh hellz no. We’re a freakin’ troll smorgasbord around these parts…
January 28th, 2009 at 12:50 amcall me crazy, but I have little hope…
January 28th, 2009 at 12:52 amIt’s hard to ignore a troll who takes up 50% of a thread. To ignore him you need to leave TP which is what this kind of troll wants. This one needs to be banned.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:53 amWhen, oh, when will President Obama stop caving in to the wingnuts?
My advice to the new administration: learn the following phrase when addressing the “leadership” of the Minority Party:
“We won for a reason – the American people do not trust your judgment nor do they believe in your failed policies.
You lost for a reason – see above.
Now get on board or STFU!”
‘Nuff said.
Time to let Boehner cry, move on, step it up and get done what needs to get done.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:54 amonly 207 more weeks to continue delaying President Obama’s proposals until his term is up.
Meanwhile our economy is losing jobs by the tens of thousands now.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:54 amShayne, looks like glezzy’s mom came home and made him get off the computer.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:55 amHopefully Obama just wants people to see that he tried to work with these Republiscum. He’s smarter than all of them and hopefully he’s giving them enough rope to hang themselves.
January 28th, 2009 at 12:57 amHe probably just needed his diaper changed and will come back soon. He obviously knows how to throw a big enough fit that his mother will let him have his way.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:00 amWhat’s that glezzery, certainly you don’t do any reading.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:01 amGlezzery proves that conservatism is for the antisocial.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:02 amIt was more a diagnosis than a personal attack.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:05 amglezzery Says:
Hell, the man is GONE and Bush Hate is still going strong.
You folks have just transferred it to Joe the Plumber!
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January 28th, 2009 at 1:06 amBush may be out of the white house but his sleazy little paws are all over this administration! You are a sicko and Bush is a murderer!
Sounds like the second shift finally came on. I wonder how many of them there are?
January 28th, 2009 at 1:07 amglezzery Says:
You know, it is really hard to swallow folks that are against deficit spending one day and then another PASS IT -ALL OF IT!!!
Already addressed in this thread. Page up.
Everything else you’ve said since is completely insubstantial. Please address some of the arguments made opposing your theses, instead of merely responding to the various comments directed at your blatant vileness and stupidity.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:08 amHe doesn’t argue, he just recites talking points. And when called on his inaccuracies he accuses others of being lame. I guess Rove is still faxing those talking points to these dittoheads.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:11 amlol, LMAO, wow, that’s deeps for one of you people.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:13 amI suspect he’s furiously emailing the RNC begging for tomorrow’s talking points.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:15 amglezzery….O/T but have you replaced those ATI video cards yet that have been preventing you from really getting your virtual war on?
January 28th, 2009 at 1:19 amIt’s kind of a metaphor.
I think he’s done.
Oh he may come back in here and hurl some insults or “lmaos” and whatnot. But chickens run around for a little while after being decapitated too.
Night night, all.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:22 amLater.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:24 amElBruce…LiberalVoter
LMAO!
also…’whatnot’
good night and good job :D
January 28th, 2009 at 1:34 amglezzery Says:
Libertarian IS right WING!
January 28th, 2009 at 12:12 am
That’s funny, because I’m a Liberal Libertarian, according to http://www.politicalcompass.org/
Just saying.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:41 amCan’t Obama just go over their heads and pass this thing? I mean didn’t Bushpig do that w/ the war he started?
January 28th, 2009 at 1:57 amI’m just flagging him. I’m tired of scrolling through his bullshite.
January 28th, 2009 at 2:28 amglezzery Says:
What a lemmings!~
OMG “the government must provide for everything!”
Its so un-American its sickening!
What a straw man…no one is suggesting that the government provide for EVERYTHING as if we’re all deadbeats who don’t work but rely on welfare…It’s one thing to think that government regulation is needed, it’s another to advocate for government welfare for everyone in every situation so we don’t have to work anymore. Way to distort the liberal position. but hey, I can dig up one too…I take it you’re against government regulation, right? Then may I assume that you are for e.coli poisoning and dangerous corporate products that hurt and maim our citizens? YAY! THREE CHEERS FOR E.COLI AND SALMONELLA, THE MVPs of the conservative movement! PROFIT OVER HUMAN LIFE!
It’s so un-American, it’s sickening! /extreme sarcasm
See, I can play that game too…why is it that wingers always love to use straw-men?
January 28th, 2009 at 4:03 amI think a lot of them fear the strawmen.
January 28th, 2009 at 5:09 amI couldn’t agree more.
The Repubicans have stolen two Presidential elections. America is in a state of civil war.
January 28th, 2009 at 5:44 amglezzery Says:
lmao
Comrade Glezz, what is so funny?
That America is now a socialist country?
That we were led into socialism by republicans’ incompetence?
LMAO
January 28th, 2009 at 7:18 amYou folks should be proud, your lack of curiousity, your tendency to believe anything that comports with your view.
Ironic, coming the scared little child who wet himself over false claims of WMD in Iraq.
What a chump.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:24 amRight wing whackos believe America should be filled with unwanted babies to feed in a weak economy, so they can go after the mothers of these babies as ‘welfare scum’! See? This is how the right wing of this country works. They hate Americans and their philosophies & ideas are set up to make this point.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:28 amAnd why is it all I hear above from the neocons is, “Oink, oink oink, George Bush!, oink oink oink I wuv him!”?
Sad and pathetic you neocons are.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:33 amComparing the map, with the list of tax donor states reveals that of the top five donor states (Ca., Nj., NY., Ill., Mi.), only three are in the top tier of proposed stimulus. Pen, and Florida are scheduled in the top five, but aren’t top donor states. Mi is in the top five donor list, but not the top five stimulus beneficiaries.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:34 amThen go listen to your authority on every subject, Rush Limbaugh “The Entertainer”.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:37 amObama is a f ucking genious, beyond anything we can even think up. He is doing the old rope-a-dope with the Restoogikkkans, allowing them to bloviate, and get the media attention the psychopaths desire.
http://www.strike-the-root.com/91/groves/groves1.html
But, in the end, what he is really doing is taking the wind out of their “we are the victims” sails, that ALWAYS comes after a big bill like this. He is letting them in on it, giving them face time, getting their input, seeking their counsel, hearing their considerations, listening to their suggestions, “bi-partisaning” ™ until they have no more. We knows the bill will pass, and he knows that these bi-partisaning interludes will only have to get LESS, not more, as his administration develops, since with each passing one, he keeps reaping the reward of their media self-eggrandizement.
Even beyond Rove.
Actually, beautiful if you ask me. Fcuk the REpubliscum until they are weeping pile of shit that they are.
Boehner tears for everyone.
January 28th, 2009 at 9:02 amI noticed you liberal “Progressives” always choose Women and Plumbers and Radio jockeys as your boogeymen.
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January 28th, 2009 at 9:24 amHe’s not even a plumber…. Anyway I think you have successfully proven my point about your motivations.
Thnaks-
glezzery Says:
Yadda Yadda! I know, it is a Constitutional perogative to fund french ticklers and Abortion clinics and ACORN, and well, whatever Nancy decides!
Forgive me for not noticing that your ignorance is not limited to the Middle East, but includes our own country as well. You are spewing Limbaugh’s tlaking points, which he gets from the RNC (or maybe you’re taking them straight from the RNC.)
Doesn’t matter. I intend to flag you whenever I run across one of your ignorant posts. You’ve probably heard this before (if not, you should have), but while you are certainly entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts. And that is what you have been using for your arguments – your own facts.
And since you have ceased to be an even mildly entertaining troll, why not give up and go away now? Thank you.
Putz.
January 28th, 2009 at 9:25 amglezzery Says:
I noticed you liberal “Progressives” always choose Women and Plumbers and Radio jockeys as your boogeymen.
Speak mountains about YOU!!
Wrong (again). We choose LIARS as our bogeymen. It just so happens that the latest bunch of Republican liars include Hate Talk Radio jocks (not just Rush), ignorant women (who don’t know when to STFU), and fake plumbers who lie about their motives for making themselves famous.
When you reveal yourself to be the paid Republican stooge that you are, then you will be added to our list of “bogeymen”.
January 28th, 2009 at 9:28 amonce again, repukelicans say “fcuk you” to their constituents to promote their obstructionist political agenda. Notice how texas will be sucking hard at the federal funding teat once again.
January 28th, 2009 at 9:33 amglezzery Says:
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I doubt that a lot of you are vets.
I really doubt it.
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The vets I know don’t go around blowing their own horn, or degrading others service records.
They know they have done their service, now they want to continue on with their current lives.
In other words you’re a blowhard.
tony and lido
January 28th, 2009 at 9:43 am
I am glad I am not from Kansas and have to listen to that harpy on a regular basis even if I agreed with her I couldn’t listen
January 28th, 2009 at 9:58 ambentley1 Says:
Thank you. I prefer to bring up my own service only on those occasions when my knowledge of military matters is questioned.
January 28th, 2009 at 9:59 amNo problem.
January 28th, 2009 at 10:06 amIt seems like every rightwinger on TP was another Patton.
tony and lido
Conservatism LOST the election!!!! Obama should stop trying to reasoning with these slow thinking people!
January 28th, 2009 at 10:55 amDr. Hussein Matt, poor glezzy has no clue what a DD214 is. He must have served under LtDan.
January 28th, 2009 at 11:04 amCan someone please tell me why the Republicans ALWAYS get air time to piss whin and moan?? Hey Democrats, get off your lazy asses and go out and fight for the package!!!!!
January 28th, 2009 at 11:33 ammaxamillion Says:
Can someone please tell me why the Republicans ALWAYS get air time to piss whin and moan?? Hey Democrats, get off your lazy asses and go out and fight for the package!!!!!
I don’t think they’re on their lazy asses, I just think they’re too busy governing to take time to point out the Republican hypocrisy.
Or, alternatively, perhaps there’s some validity to the idea that Obama is letting the Republicans harm themselves with their public comments, and he has asked Dems to refrain from doing what the Repubs are doing. That is, until this stimulus package gets passed. Once obama sees how the Republicans stab him in the back, the hounds will be released. I love watching Barney Frank talk about Republican stupidity.
January 28th, 2009 at 11:44 amAnswer, glezzery, do you support e.coli and Salmonella?
January 28th, 2009 at 1:35 pmOne trick pony.
-AF
January 28th, 2009 at 5:04 pmAndrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
glezzery…You know perhaps you should ASK progressives and liberals before you distort their positions so you can easily knock a flimsy straw man…
January 28th, 2009 at 10:06 pmI can’t believe that some still want to blame Bush for everything. Could there be any more variables involved with this problem? Could the Chinese manipulation of the currency markets have had anything to do with it? Could the metoric rise in energy prices, driven by speculation, not supply and demand helped the problem? Could corrupt fund managers and bankers that were only interested in showing immediate gains on the balance sheet without caring about the risk caused part of this problem. Could our representatives in congress been swayed by big money lobbyists to maybe look the other way when they should have gotten involved in regulating or investigating the financial institutions?
IMHO we need to clean house (and senate)of all of the scoundrels that allowed this to happen under their watch. We need representatives who do not make a career of being a politician. We need people that won’t vote themselves a raise when the rest of the country is hurting…I could do this all day…
January 29th, 2009 at 1:17 am