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Freshman Rep. Grayson: ‘Limbaugh actually was more lucid when he was a drug addict.’

DownWithTyranny reports that freshman Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson, a congressman from the Orlando area, castigated his home state foe — Rush Limbaugh — for his unpatriotic remarks about Barack Obama:

Rush Limbaugh is a has-been hypocrite loser, who craves attention. His right-wing lunacy sounds like Mikhail Gorbachev, extolling the virtues of communism. Limbaugh actually was more lucid when he was a drug addict. If America ever did 1% of what he wanted us to do, then we’d all need pain killers.”

After Limbaugh referred to anti-war veterans as “phony soldiers” in 2007, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) commented, “Maybe he was just high on his drugs again. I don’t know whether he was or not. If so, he ought to let us know.”



87 Responses to “Freshman Rep. Grayson: ‘Limbaugh actually was more lucid when he was a drug addict.’”

  1. Hoodathunk says:

    Nice shot, Tom. Keep it up.


  2. lokidog says:

    Orlando has picked a real winner here – and I mean that sincerely.

    This guy rocks. We need more like him, willing to call out these hate filled wingnuts for what they are. Don’t sugar coat it.

    Hammer the scum.


  3. upside99 says:

    How many threads are we going to see about the Rusher today?

    He is an irrelevant arsehole and a very rich entertainer, nothing more.


  4. Hoodathunk says:

    A couple of years ago I heard Senator Harkin speak at Fighting Bob Fest in Baraboo, Wi. I was stunned by the things he said. I had not expected a seated Senator to speak so plainly.

    Senator, grab the podium, we need you.


  5. ElBruce says:

    rhf for Congress!


  6. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Rush may be irrelevant to those on the left who can actually use their brains, but Rush is a God (with a capital ‘G’) to his listeners who are unable (or unwilling) to use their brains. Right now, Rush is still very influential to the Republican Party (which only proves they are void of any sense). And since “Radical Right-Wing Agenda” is one of the things TP is fighting against, we need to be informed of what he says and what is said about him. And it helps that we don’t have to listen to him ourselves. (I would love to be able to read the transcripts of his show, but you have to pay to get them. That should be illegal if he is using the public airwaves to spew his venomous bile.)


  7. kasinca says:

    Everyone should know that Rush is a drug addled, gas bag…and that is all he is.


  8. Hoodathunk says:

    It is a crying shame the Dems in the Senate have selected someone like Reid as their spokesman. Tom Harkin is a better choice. Russ Feingold is a better choice. Howdy Doody would be a better choice.


  9. backup says:

    I won’t try to defend outlandish or insensitive Limbaugh comments of the past; I’ll concede those have happened and continue to happen. But, if you’re making the case that what Limbaugh says is lunacy, you should at least examine a transcript.

    Here’s one from a couple days ago:

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012609/content/01125108.guest.html

    He is making what he believes is a bipartisan proposal for stimulus.

    I may not agree with it and I’m sure most (all) here would not either. The fact is that progressives won and have the right to lead.

    But on the question of bipartisanship, scan the proposal and show me where it swerves off into ‘lunacy’.


  10. Hoodathunk says:

    Sorry backup, the bonehead lost me with his public comment about hoping the President fails. Actually, he lost me long ago with his constant diatribe of hate. What he says today is distinctly colored by his past bile.

    Go peddle it somewhere else.


  11. misshusseinmolly says:

    Is there some reason why Rush Limbaugh is our Person of the Day? There’s really not much I can say about this gasbag that hasn’t already been said — many times.

    Limbaugh has a faithful audience of dittoheads who mindlessly absorb what he has to say, no matter how outrageous it is. But that audience is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Look who we elected president. Look at the party who now holds the majority in both houses of Congress. It’s obvious that Rush doesn’t speak for the majority of the people — whether he’s on drugs or not. Isn’t it time that we can ignore this guy and his glassy-eyed choir?


  12. LizCoro says:

    Rep. Alan Grayson is my new HERO . .

    About time a democrat took down hypocrite Cystboy, the serial marrier!


  13. gummitch says:

    backup Says:

    I won’t try to defend outlandish or insensitive Limbaugh comments of the past; I’ll concede those have happened and continue to happen. But, if you’re making the case that what Limbaugh says is lunacy, you should at least examine a transcript.

    Did you pay any attention at all to what Rep. Grayson was specifically referring to? Running around to find something that Limbaugh said that was faintly lucid is the sort of dishonesty I’ve come to expect from you.

    And I repeat my suggestion to read Leonard Pitts on the subject of Rush and his clown behavior.

    And, please, please stop defending garbage like this:

    Well, where’s the bipartisanship, President Obama? There is no bipartisanship in President Obama’s plan. President Obama’s definition of bipartisanship is when Republicans cave and agree with his plan so he can then claim it’s bipartisan. But he’s not compromising on anything here.

    Mine is a genuine compromise.


  14. Hoodathunk says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:

    Is there some reason why Rush Limbaugh is our Person of the Day? There’s really not much I can say about this gasbag that hasn’t already been said — many times.

    The big problem is there are MOCs who kowtow to his Obeseness.


  15. lokidog says:

    For anyone interested in signing a petition expressing outrage over the drug addict Limbaugh’s hope for Obama to fail:

    http://www.dccc.org/page/petition/rush


  16. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    apparantly, the recent layoff’s from clear channel broadcasting…home of the rush baggyballs show, point to one thing- the days of this parasite are numbered.


  17. Shayne says:

    That’s funny backup. If you want to do some serious research trying to decipher a way to make Rush palatable you go right ahead. Perhaps you should then take your findings to some right wing site because nobody here gives a rat’s a$$ what he meant.


  18. Hoodathunk says:

    If we keep the pressure on Rush will once again be relegated to his wagon peddling snake oil in Kansas.

    My apologies to the snakes.


  19. backup says:

    When Limbaugh says he hopes Obama fails, he saying that if, as he believes that Obama is taking the country more towards socialism and away from capitalism or conservatism; he hopes he fails in that. Because he believes thats the wrong course.

    It would be not unlike a progressive hoping a conservative leader would fail in bringing the country farther to the right; or away from what the believe ideologically.

    Where am I wrong on this?


  20. Tweedster says:

    backup Says: Nothing of importance.

    It doesn’t swerve off into lunacy, as the proposal is firmly entrenched in the asylum. Aside from the fact that Rush is no economist, the tax cuts made by Bush did nothing to prevent the recession we’re facing now and would be much less effective at providing economic stimulus than infrastructure spending and other things that will bring tangible value to the MOST AMERICANS POSSIBLE, not just those who don’t like having to pay a capitol gains tax.


  21. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Okay, backup (BTW, did you have to pay to get that transcript? because when I wanted to click on it, it was for “Members Only”, so I stopped. I assumed that meant I had to pay for a”membership” and that’s not something I’m prepared to waste my money on.)

    Here is some lunacy:

    Now, we have Keynesian economists who believe government spending on shovel-ready projects of all kinds, “infrastructure” — schools, roads, bridges — that’s the best way, they think, to stimulate our staggering economy. There are just as many supply-side economists who make an equally persuasive case that tax cuts are the surest and quickest way to create permanent jobs and cause an economy to rebound and recover. The Heritage Foundation can provide those figures from the administrations of JFK, who cut taxes; from Ronald Reagan who cut taxes; and George Bush 43, who also cut taxes.

    This is lunacy.

    Supply-side economics does not work, at least not if your goal is to benefit the entire nation. It’s wonderful if you want to increase the income disparity we have in this country, but supply-side economics does nto work!

    Then, after deciding that instead of $825 billion, Obama wants to spend $1 trillion, he says this bit of lunacy:

    Mine is a genuine compromise. So let’s look at how the vote came out, shall we? Fifty-three percent of voters in this country — we’ll say, for the sake of this proposal, 53% of Americans — voted for Obama. Forty-six percent voted for Senator McCain, and 1% voted for wackos. Let’s give the remaining 1% to President Obama, so let’s say that 54% voted for President Obama and 46% voted for Senator McCain. As a way to bring the country together and at the same time determine the most effective way to deal with recessions, under the Obama-Limbaugh Stimulus Plan of 2009, $540 billion of the one trillion will be spent on infrastructure as defined by President Obama and the Democrats. The remaining $460 billion, or 46% that voted for Senator McCain, will be directed towards tax cuts, as determined by me.

    This is insane. Since when does the losing side get what they wanted? I should also mention that I skipped a bunch of his lunacy directed to the subject of “bipartisanship”, considering that the party whose water he carried never operated that way. There’s a reason a majority of the country rejected the Republicans – because their ideas suck, and they’re what got us into this economic mess in the first place (despite what they say.)

    No country in the history of civilization has cut taxes during a time of war. Not one, except the USA under George W. Bush. Much to our dismay, we are still at war. It makes no sense to just keep cutting taxes and not ending the illegal war responsible for much of our deficit-spending.

    Rush is a lunatic, and he should be denounced as such every time he opens his piehole to speak.


  22. Fred says:

    backup Says:
    But on the question of bipartisanship, scan the proposal and show me where it swerves off into ‘lunacy’.

    This definatly qualifies. Directly from the transcript:

    There are just as many supply-side economists who make an equally persuasive case that tax cuts are the surest and quickest way to create permanent jobs and cause an economy to rebound and recover.

    If you don’t consider that to be lunacy then we have no grounds for a discussion.


  23. Hoodathunk says:

    Backup, let me get out my crayon.

    “It would be not unlike a progressive hoping a conservative leader would fail in bringing the country farther to the right; or away from what the believe ideologically.”

    The last 8 years we had a conservative leader who did bring us to the edge of economic collapse. The people ‘voted’ (a decidedly obscure concept for you I am sure) that this wasn’t a good thing.

    Maybe you like the idea that the rich get richer and the US is teetering on the brink but most folks are sort of against that idea.

    Now go play in the traffic.


  24. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    backup, you can spend your time anaylzing what baggyballs means, my time is roo valueable. what is said is clear…in four words I HOPE HE FAILS.

    Are you often an apologist for drug addicted traitors?


  25. Shayne says:

    If tax cuts are such are sure and quick way to recovery backup why after 8 years of Bush tax cuts are we in the toilet? Go ask Rush.


  26. Buckie Boy says:

    He forgot to add that Rush likes him some little underage Dominican boy prostitutes with the ‘Viagra’.

    Can’t forget that one.


  27. Tweedster says:

    backup Says:

    It would be not unlike a progressive hoping a conservative leader would fail in bringing the country farther to the right; or away from what the believe ideologically.

    Where am I wrong on this?

    The context is crucial. When Bush was President, it was unpatriotic to question or criticize him according to Rush and a lot of Right-wingers. Now, when the country is in need of serious action to help save the economy, Rush and his Repug buddies are being obstructionist and calling for the failure of the President and his plan to help revitalize the economy. Rush’s stimulus package is of course, pure BS, and it is completely clear that more tax cuts would do next to nothing to address some fundamental weaknesses in our economy.


  28. Tweedster says:

    Fred Says:

    There are just as many supply-side economists who make an equally persuasive case that tax cuts are the surest and quickest way to create permanent jobs and cause an economy to rebound and recover.

    Great point Fred. I’d like to see who all these supply-siders are anyway. Tax cuts did nothing to stave off this recession and will not bring us out of it either. That is a fundamental truth the Right ignores, because they always seem to be more interested in helping their donors consolidate their wealth and if you happen to be poor, well screw you!


  29. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    backup missed the memo- “trickle down economics” never was, never will be a success.

    you give tax cuts to the top 1% and guess what? they save it, nothing “trickles down”.


  30. SP Biloxi says:

    “Freshman Rep. Grayson: ‘Limbaugh actually was more lucid when he was a drug addict.’”

    lol He said it all. Cheers!


  31. Keith says:

    backup, Rush favors a very corrupt. injust, robber baron and oligarchial form of capitalism that has been a disaster to the vast majority of the people—by every economic measure anyone can imagine.

    What Barack is proposing is not as far left as Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, or Nixon, for instance. He is only trying to steer us to a recovery from a collapse.


  32. Jane E. Schneider says:

    backup Says:

    When Limbaugh says he hopes Obama fails, he saying that if, as he believes that Obama is taking the country more towards socialism and away from capitalism or conservatism; he hopes he fails in that. Because he believes thats the wrong course.

    January 28th, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    So does he believe that the capitalists and (faux) conservatives whose water he has been carrying for so long were on the RIGHT course?


  33. Buckie Boy says:

    Tweedster

    it is completely clear that more tax cuts would do next to nothing to address some fundamental weaknesses in our economy.

    Correct – if you give corps tax cuts does anyone in their right minds think this will help employment?

    NO. Why?

    If people aren’t buying things because they are unemployed then why would a company hire people for products that aren’t selling in the first place.

    Hence this is why capitalism is a failed system, once you hit saturation, as in people have consumed all they need and don’t need stuff anymore, the system caves in. And that is what we are seeing today.

    Oh, and it is a vicious cycle too, get ready for the greatest depression ever, unemployment is going to hit 25%, and will not recover unless the government does something drastic.


  34. shoeless says:

    Limbaugh Says:

    The remaining $460 billion, or 46% that voted for Senator McCain, will be directed towards tax cuts for the top 1%, as determined by income.

    (Editted for the sake of honesty)


  35. Tweedster says:

    Keith Says:

    backup, Rush favors a very corrupt. injust, robber baron and oligarchial form of capitalism that has been a disaster to the vast majority of the people—by every economic measure anyone can imagine.

    backup also favors corruption and lying. backup and Rush make quite a duo.


  36. Tweedster says:

    Exactly, Buckie Boy…conservatives are either A) morons or B) thieves…their basically divides up that way along income.


  37. shoeless says:

    backup Says:

    When Limbaugh says he hopes Obama fails,

    Why do you and Rush Limbaugh hate America?


  38. ElBruce says:

    backup Says:

    I won’t try to defend outlandish or insensitive Limbaugh comments of the past; I’ll concede those have happened and continue to happen. But, if you’re making the case that what Limbaugh says is lunacy, you should at least examine a transcript.

    Here’s one from a couple days ago:

    So what you’re saying is you found one lunacy-free transcript, so that means he’s not a lunatic even though you “concede” that he has and continues to espouse lunacy. I don’t need to go read it to see your problem there. Let me know what your point is once you figure it out.


  39. Hoodathunk says:

    Let’s see…Rush and the Repugs are right. Keep things going the way they are and the rich keep getting richer and the American working class gets demoted to a total ’service’ economy.

    Of course, these service types are going to just happily support the elite, fix their toilets, serve their meals, clean their houses. For pennies, of course. Welcome to Fantasy Island.

    Hey, it could happen! Americans are such wusses they would go along with it. I’m sorry but I can’t keep from laughing here.


  40. Keith says:

    People cannot consume today because wages dropped about 2% over the last eight years. There were only about 3 million new jobs while about 12 million people were added to the labor force (extra 9 million out of work) Add underemployed to unemployed and it is over 13% today.

    Under Clinton wages increased 15% and 22 million jobs were created. Clinton inherited 7.2% unemployment and took it down to 3.9% During those eight years, I heard constant, constant, constant complaing from Limbaugh about how bad Clinton’s policies were.

    The guy should be in jail for the illegal purchase of many thousands of addictive narcotic pills.


  41. nanlichi says:

    backup, you just failed the litmus test. You are not worth a single turd of rat shit little buddy.

    Sorry about the irrelevancy, wear it well.


  42. MrBrown says:

    No offense to Floridians, but you guys surely did something right by electing that guy.

    Pull no punches Mr. Grayson, and tell it like it is!


  43. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    Mr. Brown, baggyballs live in palm beach. really, they need something to be proud of.


  44. Ape-Man says:

    I keep wondering what corporations are partnering with rush every day on his show. I think everyone should be aware of who they are. They should be on the tip of everyones tounge. There should be a list somewhere…


  45. Kid Charlemagne says:

    Limbaugh is still an addict, he never quit; but he is still goofy either way.


  46. oraxx says:

    Try this experiment…..every time Limbaugh uses the word ‘liberal’, mentally substitue the racial slur of your choice. What you get is a KKK rally. Or..substitue the word Jew. What you get is Joseph Goebels.


  47. Keith says:

    Ann Coulter votes in Palm Beach, though she mostly lives in Manhattan.


  48. curious says:

    What makes anyone think this fat, loud mouth has been off drugs?

    Just look what drugs have contributed to his mental processes. He was not that bright to begin with. This idiot is a one trick pony like most talking heads on radio and tv. They have their niche and never let patriotism and cogent thought get in the way of anything they say.


  49. Fred says:

    glezzery

    someone on another thread noted that empty wagons make a lot of noise……sounds like greasy…


  50. pasnell says:

    Rush was that bad in Sacramento….. Ask him about women who don’t shave under their arms…..and you will get the same insanity…


  51. Jackie says:

    Someone stood up for Americans and allowed Republicans to know their following the lead of a convicted criminal and drug user. Not to mention the fact he molest little girls as he goes over seas. He should join Mark Foley’s club.


  52. misshusseinmolly says:

    “…under the Obama-Limbaugh Stimulus Plan of 2009, $540 billion of the one trillion will be spent on infrastructure as defined by President Obama and the Democrats. The remaining $460 billion, or 46% that voted for Senator McCain, will be directed towards tax cuts, as determined by me.”
    ____________________________________________________________

    Following this logic, we should fund our other objectives according to the public support it receives. For example, only 36% of us support the war in Iraq, so we should cut the funding down to that level. On the other hand, 73% of us support stem cell research, so perhaps we could put some of that money toward that (but only funding 73% of what is necessary, of course).

    The only thing more lunatic than Limbaugh’s proposal is that the lunacy actually has to be explained to some people.


  53. lokidog says:

    I hope TP doesn’t mind me linking to Greenwald – just catching up on some of his stuff and came across this on Grayson. This guy is going places in the Democratic Party – where the hell has he been?

    >>…The exhange between Rep. Grayson and Vice Chairman Kohn — the video of which is below — struck me as significant for several reasons, beginning with the fact that this was Rep. Grayson’s very first hearing ever as a Congressman, and he was more vigilant and aggressive in demanding accountability from a high government official than many of his colleagues in Congress have ever been even after serving many terms. Additionally, his adept questioning (Grayson was a successful trial lawyer before being elected to Congress) elicted how high officials truly view Congress. Grayson’s questioning of Kohn immediately sparked a controversy that will almost certainly lead to greater pressure on the Fed to account for how this money was spent…<<

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/radio/2009/01/26/grayson/print.html


  54. dbadass says:

    54:
    Says the internet nobody endlessly seeking negative attention. How many hours of intentional annoyance might they offer up this night?


  55. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    glezzery,

    I see you are demonstrating your extreme ignorance on this thread, too. Have you any idea who Mohammed Mosaddeq was? If not, you should go educate yourself.


  56. backup says:

    Limbaugh wants Obama to fail.

    I imagine Limbaugh is not an Obama fan. I imagine Limbaugh disagrees with Obama’s ideology. And he hopes Obama’s efforts to steer the country right will fail; because he sees that as the wrong course.

    Does that make him crazy? Does that make him unpatriotic?

    I was here over the past few years. I assume that most here were not fans of Bush. From the beginning. Disagreed with his ideology. And hoped his attempts to move the country farther right would fail.

    Despite attempts of some on the right, it did not make you crazy or unpatriotic.


  57. gummitch says:

    backup Says:

    Limbaugh wants Obama to fail.

    I imagine Limbaugh is not an Obama fan. I imagine Limbaugh disagrees with Obama’s ideology. And he hopes Obama’s efforts to steer the country right will fail; because he sees that as the wrong course.

    Does that make him crazy? Does that make him unpatriotic?

    Did you read the Pitts column? If not, please do. He addresses this very clearly.

    And, yes, it makes him extremely unpatriotic.


  58. Fred says:

    backup Says:
    Despite attempts of some on the right, it did not make you crazy or unpatriotic.

    Don’t be patronizing cap, those efforts did work, shamefully. Not only that but we just witnessed our worst nightmare as you describe it. What Obama has in mind is no where near the opposite of that…..get real man.


  59. backup says:

    Wayne. I read your post. It’s good. I don’t have a membership. I googled Rush’s comments on stimulus and got the link. When I click on the address, it goes to a transcript of a show he did on the 26th.

    I think Obama and Democrats should form the stimulus they want. If they want to listen to Republicans; that’s great. A raising of the bar. But, they have no obligation to do it. Democrats won the election. It’s now their right to set policy and make budgeting decisions. The American people decided it.

    But, the idea of bipartisanship is the issue.

    bipartisan: marked by or involving cooperation, agreement, and compromise between two major political parties

    I applaud Obama’s attempt to try to be bipartisan, but maybe it’s not that possible. And maybe it’s not what the American people really want.

    I’ve made the point before – sometimes over compromised decisions aren’t good decisions.

    I don’t think Rush believes his idea will be considered by Democrats. He’s probably trying to make a point, or show the limits of bipartisanship.

    In the end, it doesn’t really matter what Rush has to say. These will be progressive decisions and progressive policies.

    We have a fantastic system (that may work to slowly) but eventually addresses the will of the people.


  60. Fred says:

    backup Says:
    Despite attempts of some on the right, it did not make you crazy or unpatriotic.

    Think the Dixie Chicks would agree with you cap?


  61. Fred says:

    backup Says:
    In the end, it doesn’t really matter what Rush has to say.

    Apparently the gop bows to his wishes and that makes what he says very relevant.


  62. gummitch says:

    backup Says:

    I don’t think Rush believes his idea will be considered by Democrats. He’s probably trying to make a point, or show the limits of bipartisanship.

    Balls. He’s looking for attention and to throw his weight around. You give him entirely too much credit.

    From Pitts, since you can’t be bothered to read the whole column:

    “I hope he fails.”

    Do you ever say that about your president if you are an American who loves your country? Would you say it about George W. Bush, who was disastrous; about Bill Clinton, who was slimy; about Jimmy Carter, who was inept; about Richard Nixon, who was crooked? You may think he’s going to fail, yes. You may warn he’s going to fail, yes.

    But do you ever hope he fails? Knowing his failure is the country’s failure? Isn’t that, well . . . disloyal?

    The irony is that Limbaugh and the other clowns would have you believe they are bedrock defenders of this country, that they love it more than the rest of us, more than anything.

    That’s a lie. Limbaugh just told us so, emphatically.

    It’s not the country they love. It’s the attention. The ideology, their perversion of conservatism, is but a means toward that end.


  63. backup says:

    gummitch.

    I read the Pitts article. Thanks.

    Here’s his comments in context (but, I found it on a different blog and I haven’t checked the source).

    Taken in context, they are less divisive than Pitts charges:

    Here’s the part just prior to the “I hope he fails”.

    “Look, what he’s talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the U.S. government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don’t want this to work.”

    In the view of absorbing the private sector businesses into gov’t control, I hope he does fail. Overall, I hope he succeeds.


  64. Fred says:

    backup Says:
    “Look, what he’s talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the U.S. government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don’t want this to work.”

    He should have thought of that before he decided to bankrupt our country and turn our banking system over to the government. Why would that be ok and nothing else? See, it don’t make sense no matter how you twist it.

    Remember the republicans signed on to the first 800 billion without a qualm. Where was rush at that point?


  65. a0d7fzz says:

    Finally we have congressmen who’ve grown a pair!


  66. backup says:

    See, it don’t make sense no matter how you twist it.

    But, Fred. you do agree that context is important?


  67. Fred says:

    backup Says:
    But, Fred. you do agree that context is important?

    I think intentions and agenda are important. rush has shown that he has no limits where his agenda are concerned.

    Context matters when the person has credibility. rush has none. For you to pretend that he does is taking him out of context.


  68. Fred says:

    backup, rush’s quote that you show in post 71 is like saying I don’t want any black people living in my neighborhood, but I’m not a racist……

    If you’re going to talk about context……


  69. Leftside Annie says:

    backup Says:

    I won’t try to defend outlandish or insensitive Limbaugh comments of the past; I’ll concede those have happened and continue to happen.

    Backup, sweetie, you should have stopped right there. You’ll concede that Limbaugh is an insensitive, racist, chauvinistic boob — but you want us to listen to what he has to say…?

    Puh-lease. We ain’t *that* stupid.


  70. backup says:

    No.

    This is:

    In the view of absorbing the private sector businesses into gov’t control, I hope he does fail. Overall, I hope he succeeds.

    Is different than this:

    I hope he fails.

    Those attacking Rush on this issue would be more credible if they include the quote in context.

    To me, it’s no more unpatriotic or crazy than the legitimate disagreements progressives had with Bush policies of the past.


  71. gummitch says:

    backup Says:

    See, it don’t make sense no matter how you twist it.

    But, Fred. you do agree that context is important?

    The real context is Limbaugh’s history of claims like “Obama only got elected because the media wanted a black president” or “Obama is an Arab!” or “I’m asked to grab my ankles because Obama’s father was Black (Wait. I thought he was an Arab!)”

    Backup, these aren’t “outlandish or insensitive Limbaugh comments of the past.” They’re happening on a regular basis right now. He’s a racist, pigheaded, ignorant, egotistical gasbag.


  72. backup says:

    gummitch. I believe there is a basis for many of your characterizations of Rush Limbaugh.

    I just feel that on the idea of Rush wanting Obama to fail, I don ‘t see it as unpatriotic or crazy. Only ideological differences, when you consider the quote in context.


  73. ElBruce says:

    I really don’t have a problem with the “I hope he fails” comment. When the R’s had total power and were telling us we had to support Bush or we were unpatriotic, that argument was stupid and insulting. Just because they’ve reversed themselves doesn’t mean the argument still isn’t stupid and insulting, and therefore we should avoid it.

    I disagreed that Bush’s policies would make anything better, and I actually felt they’d make things worse, so I hoped he wouldn’t be successful in getting them passed and implemented. (side note: he was successful and they did make everything worse). It’s fair to allow Rush the same attitude towards Obama.

    Rush is unpatriotic because he seeks to divide America and vilify the majority of it, because he’s a coward in the face of terrorism, and because he seeks to help a wealthy few loot the entire national economy. But he’s not unpatriotic just because he doesn’t “stand behind” the current President.

    .

    Keith Says:

    Ann Coulter votes in Palm Beach, though she mostly lives in Manhattan.

    Ann Coulter votes in a number of Florida electoral districts simultaneously, last I heard.

    .

    glezzery Says:

    LMAO

    LYAO!

    .

    backup Says:

    you do agree that context is important?

    The context is a lie. Obama’s not out to nationalize industry. So yeah, that’s important.


  74. Keith says:

    backup,
    You think it would great if we gave Republicans lots of input into the stimulus plan and they should determine how 45% of the money is spent.

    WHY?

    Exactly how much evidence would you need before you came to realize that it was their policies that gave us this fantastic disater unequaled since the 1921-33 conservative, trickle-down, supply-side policies?

    Apparently no amount since the current Mt. Everest-sized evidence is not good enough to persuade you. You will spin anything into anything until the end result makes you feel good about your conservative beliefs.


  75. Keith says:

    gummitch says: He’s a racist, pigheaded, ignorant, egotistical gasbag.

    And those are his good features!


  76. backup says:

    Keith, I don’t support Limbaugh’s plan. Obama and Democrats won the election. It should be their policies.

    I only offered the Limbaugh transcript to refute this push that Limbaugh, and by extention his audience, is crazy.

    I don’t support some kind of bipartisan power share. That’s not how the system works.

    However, ideological differences will remain. Progressives have proven that defending those differences are a strength, and not a weakness, to our system of government.


  77. Fred says:

    backup Says:
    I only offered the Limbaugh transcript to refute this push that Limbaugh, and by extention his audience, is crazy.

    Or to imply that we are equally as crazy….wow, they have just about destroyed us and you admit that, and yet you want to compare our criticizm of them with thier braying and farting….thanks but kiss my ass.


  78. backup says:

    Fred, I don’t think you’re crazy… only crazy-cool.


  79. roscoe says:

    Rock on, the best thing to do to a bully like lardbaugh is punch him right in the nose, or take his Oxycontin away.


  80. dhampton100 says:

    Rush is a drug addict!! Why anyone gives him a platform is beyond me. Does anyone sit around discussing the views of any other drug induced opinions? Rush is angry because his side lost to a black man. He’s a racist and the Repubs re able to hide their true feelings behind his show. Ronald Reagan ran on the “welfare Queen”, one woman who stole, who happened to be black and gave red meat to those who wanted to “Stop giving those people our money”. It worked and here we are with this idiot representing a major political party in the greatest country in the world. Send this man back where he was before he made it to the world stage. A failure and an idiot. He disgraces me as an American!


  81. Blue387 says:

    How dare he insult Mikhail Gorbachev by comparing him to Rush Limbaugh?


  82. Danko Ramone says:

    The only thing that will shut down Rush is a loss of advertisers. Simply losing listenership, or being acknowledged as a loon isn’t enough. Even with reduced listenership he’s a useful propaganda tool and adverstisers funnel money to him to promote their agenda, or the agendas of those others that would most benefit them.


  83. Freedem says:

    Even before we elected him our Congressman from Orlando (with Gerrymeanders up to Ocala) Alan Grayson was doing the peoples business suing phoney crony contractors in Iraq who did not perform the duties they were supposed to and injured or poisoned our soldiers.


  84. dave from queens says:

    That is how you speak truth to a bully.


  85. Klem Kiddilehopper says:

    So Rush thinks he helping the country with his daily whines! Let’s take a look at Rush’s younger years and his acts of patriotism when his country called and needed him during the years of the Vietnam War Draft. I FOIA’ed and received Rush’s Draft Classification earlier last year.

    Rush Hudson Limbaugh – DOB Jan 12,1951
    Selective Service Number – 23-16-51-18

    Classification Record:
    02-05-69 – Questionaire Mailed
    02-12-69 – Questionaire Returned
    02-24-69 – 1SH Student deferred by statute (H) high school
    11-23-69 – 2s Registrant deferred because of activity in study (college)
    11-24-70 – 1Y Registrant qualfied for service only in time of war or national emergency
    02-21-72 – 4F Registrant not qualified for military service
    Rush graduated from high school in May of 1969,”BUT” retained his high school deferment until Nov 24,1969 when he registered for college. This was a clear violation of Federal Law!
    He must have dropped out of college sometime between Nov of 69 and Nov of 70, because he was called up for a physical. Then almost to the day one year later he was classified 1Y. One and a half years later he was classified as 4F or Registrant not qualified for military service.
    We will never know why he was classified as 1Y or 4F, as all medical records from the Selective Service were destroyed by Presidental Order after the ending of the Vietnam
    War!
    He’s the real deal when it came time to serving his Country or more than likely service his masters in the Regressive Republican Party!



  86. camera says:

    I guess that I’m late on this thread, and it seems to have died down, but I want to go back to the original lead: Does anyone really think that rush is no longer a drug addict?



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