House passes recovery package with zero Republican votes.
By on Jan 28th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
House passes recovery package with zero Republican votes.
The House has passed H.R. 1, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, by a vote of 244 – 188. The House GOP fulfilled their pledge to mount “100 percent” opposition to the legislation:
Update Yglesias: "The lesson I would hope the administration learns here is this: He needs to spend less time seeking political cover to mitigate the downside to possible policy failure, and more time trying to implement the best policies he can."
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… on party lines.
i see 12 dems in the NAY column… what’s THAT about?
January 28th, 2009 at 6:31 pmThe House GOP fulfilled their pledge to mount “100 percent” opposition to the legislation:
– - Figuring the economy will still be struggling by the 2010 elections no matter what is done now, this is the safe partisan vote.
But House GOP’ers will have this vote hung around their necks like Hillary’s vote to go to war.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:31 pmIf any working Americans have the no voting repubs as their congresscritters, do us a favor: Vote them out! If your representatives would rather the economy go off a cliff than support a democratic initiative, then they certainly don’t have your best interests at heart. You cannot continue to employ representatives which would put their party above the country. They are more loyal to Boehner and McConnell than to you – their employers. Have you no shame?
January 28th, 2009 at 6:31 pmGodspeed, lil Stimmy.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:31 pmNow do the Dems understand that the Repukes are powerless and they can kick them to the curb?
Repukes = Road kill
January 28th, 2009 at 6:32 pmAll we can do now is pray this works.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:33 pmkaty Says:
i see 12 dems in the NAY column… what’s THAT about?
It’s about political suicide, when the stimulus is successful.
Blue Dogs ‘ll then have to show their true colors and run for re-election as republicans.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:35 pmNow why was it necessary to capitulate on a single, goddamn thing?
Put it all back in the Conference Report, where they can vote again along party lines against it. At least then we’ll get what we need, not what they want.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:37 pmNever forget what these sh*theads have done to our country. Sweep the rest of them out in 2010.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:37 pmPreening popinjays! They sell out their country and their constitutents for ideological purity. This should let the Dems know they can safely ignore Boner et al.
And can we please all send letters to the editor and call the radio talk shows asking why the R’s are willing to sell us out? Beacuse the media meme is going to be, “Reps stay true to beliefs”.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:39 pmGOP are big on slogans such as “Country First”, but they continue to demonstrate that really they put Party first. As a consequence they are loosing power rapidly and seem Hell-bent on complete irrelevance.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:39 pmLook at the repugs in the house, not one “maverick” in the bunch, just doing what they’re told by Bohner. Why run for office if you can’t vote your conscience? Like a bunch of school children, “okay class, on three vote “no!”, one, two, three…”NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.” Now kids, let’s get out our coloring books and then its nap time.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:43 pmThis was a dumb move by congressional republicans. For one, they now have to hope like hell that the economy gets worse. If it turns around for any reason, they will look like fools. Two, they just showed the new president that no matter how much he tries to reach across the aisle, they will still vote lockstep together to try and block anything he does. And three, they sent the message loud and clear to not strip out any provisions from any bill next time, because they will still vote against it.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:44 pmThese GOPigs have been given enough time and respect. It is now even more obvious that they have no intention of contributing anything positive. Time for a big long ignore the dumb fuks. Let them have a closet in the basement to do whatever it is they want to do.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:45 pmRepugniscum will continue to salute one another, to walk and talk in lockstep — all the way into oblivion.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:46 pmI don’t care.
I hope they disappear.
They want nothing but failure of anything attached to a Democrat. They have a lot of residual power in their media whores, but the end of their power is on the horizon.
Sooner than later, I hope. I say good riddance to them all, their selfish greed, their partishanship and their damned arrogance.
since the republicans didn’t help one bit, the democrats should to re-write the bill without the “concessions” that were barterd, I would even thow in some tax increases on the wealthy for good measure
January 28th, 2009 at 6:46 pmChris L, perfect summary. I hope that the Dems get that message.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:48 pmThe House GOP fulfilled their pledge to mount “100 percent” opposition to the legislation:
And it passed relatively easily anyway, even with a dozen democratic defectors.
Let that be a lesson to the Democratic leadership:
you don’t need to negotiate with them. Do what’s right for the nation. Let the Republicans hold their breath until they turn blue if that’s how they want to behave.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:49 pmI don’t know for certain, but I suspect the market’s stumbling upward this week may have something to do with the anticipation of a stimulus package.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:49 pmIf Obama continues to embarrass the fatcats for their conspicuous consumption and extravagant excesses, the middle and lower class people who built this country may have a chance to see their lives improve. When CEOs earn 475 times the wages of their employees even while their companies go bankrupt, the tide must turn. If it means that we, the people, conduct an American version of storming the Bastille, we should do so — Repugniscum and bluedogs take warning.
They can vote against whatever the hell they want, as long as they don’t filibuster or hang things up in subcommittees. But then again, they knew that all along. Which means they don’t really have a problem with it being passed, they just want to be on record as obstructionists.
Clearly, there was no reason whatsoever to have removed anything from the bill to please them. Clearly, there will be no reason to take their specific concerns into account in the future.
I think those 12 Dems were vote-counting cowards. If their votes had been actually needed, they might have voted for…. or not. I’d still like to see the list of their names.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:52 pmGreat..Now Limberger’s children can gather their things and leave the building for the next two years. Since these jerks seemed to have listened to the Sun Tan Lotion Coalition (Boehner, Limberger and Cantor)then it’s time for them to sit down or leave.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:57 pmrepugs passed part of chimpy’s $350b without oversight/accountability.
Now these same assh want to play “gotcha dem” with our lives.
93 yo man froze to death
a family of 7 — suicide/murder — 5 little kids because both lost their jobs
repugs are useless and the sooner President Obama sees that the better off we will be.
January 28th, 2009 at 6:58 pmNow we will see what the goppers will do with it in the senate. To the nay sayers: we are watching you …
January 28th, 2009 at 6:59 pmHippie_crusher Says:
Congrats Dems.
You own it now….that you have been in power for 8 days…the people who handed it to you can wash their hands of it.
You…are….an….idiot.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:00 pmThey have already hinted that they will filibuster the next portion of the bailout, so I see no reason to strip out any provision with the hopes of getting a republican vote. They just proved that they will do everything they can to block any democratic bill, so why try to reach across the aisle?
January 28th, 2009 at 7:02 pmSO WHAT WAS ALL THE FUSS ABOUT?
If the Democrats could have passed the bill without the GOP, then WHY DID THEY CUT OUT PARTS OF THE BILL THE GOP HATED?
Does anyone honestly think for one minute that if the roles were reversed and the GOP had a supermajority that they would bother asking US what WE want?
Bipartisanship is nice, but not a requirement. If the GOP is going to stand in the way of President Obama’s agenda, then don’t even bother with them. Leave them in the dust.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:03 pmWhat’s that hippie?
I see it as President Obama/dems and his staff trying to get this country on the right track while repugs nip and squeal at anything dem.
repugs solely own the f0ck ups. Guess what there is more to come (f0ck ups) when the truth comes out.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:03 pmHippie Crusher,
Nice name, dumass. Now you have to hope that the economy fails. If it succeeds at all, you will look like an idiot. So now you have to just sit around and pray for bad things to happen to America. Oh yeah, that’s what you do anyway.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:04 pmwishful thinking hippy crusher
it will be impossible for bush to shed the blame no matter how much you try
just as fdr fixed hoover’s economy, just as clinton fixed reagan/bush’s economy, obama will fix bush’s economy
and if he doesn’t, bush owns it worse, best case scenario for “hippy crushers” is if obama fixes it, that makes bushe’s inept performance not so bad
but carry on with your limburger treason hoping for the worst because he’s a democrat
January 28th, 2009 at 7:04 pm*excuse me 93 yo vet
January 28th, 2009 at 7:04 pmHippie_Crusher,
“Corporate waste”? Really? Corporate waste is going to be our fault? How do you figure? Wouldn’t being wasteful with a company’s money be a matter of personal irresponsibility on the part of someone within that company? Why would someone who supports the idea of “personal freedom, personal responsibility” (the Conservative Creed) want to blame liberals because of one corporate criminal? Please explain. Thank you.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:07 pmExactly. If it wins, they take credit for not holding it up. If it fails, they take credit for trying to prevent it.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:08 pmThe House Republicans talking about reigning in special interests is about as funny as hypocrisy gets.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:11 pmLushInterior – you should invest in all that lawn fudge in your trailers front yard.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:13 pmExactly. If it wins, they take credit for not holding it up. If it fails, they take credit for trying to prevent it.
Name one repug plan that went smoothly and benefited the country?
As usual this dumbass plot will backfire on them.
They just don’t get it. Anything repug is tainted.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:13 pmObviously the GOP sees no fault in George W. Bush’s handling of the economy.
Republicans + accountability = 0
January 28th, 2009 at 7:15 pmHippie_crusher Says:
The winners this week:
Rush Limbaugh – Was challenged by the most powerful man in the world and won.
How did Rush beat Heath Ledger?
January 28th, 2009 at 7:16 pmSo all of the recession, higher unemployment, corporate waste, and bank failures to date are on the Democrats now?
Because they passed a bill? That Republicans whine won’t even have an effect for two years?
Nice sense of personal responsibility you have there.
Oh, wait — who am I talking to? — The guy who brags about “crushing” the easiest targets he can find…
January 28th, 2009 at 7:16 pmWhen the party of personal responsibility demands 100% fealty the party of personal responsibility is full of it.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:18 pm….sealing their fate for re-election in 2010 and 2012. Every one of these nay votes will be unseated by the american people. Let’s begin campaigning against them immediately.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:18 pmHi Hippie Crusher:
January 28th, 2009 at 7:18 pmWhat weird shit are you talking? I can’t make heads or tails of it. I suppose I might ask Glezzery or LTdan to explain. Seems to me like more of the same attention seeking behaviors…
America KNOWS beyond a shadow of a doubt that these hypocrites gave Bush a blank check and looked the other way when they knew that the banking system was running amok. The GOP “owns this recession”, “owns this war”, and “owns the tanking of this country”.
About this there is absolutely no debate or argument.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:18 pmWhy does Rush Limbaugh remind me of “pus man” from Dune? Did he play that part?
January 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pmHippie_crusher Says:
Oh, no you didn’t.
How’s Mr. President going to spin what just happened?
That the GOP thinks it’s 1912, 1938 and 2004 all over again.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pmYo, H_C — can you explain how Obama “lost” when the bill passed by almost 60 votes?
Oh jeez, there I go again — trying to get “sense” out of the Brownie_Crusher.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pmrimhotep Says:
Why does Rush Limbaugh remind me of “pus man” from Dune? Did he play that part?
Rush couldn’t have played the Baron. Because Sting played his nephew and Sting isn’t Dominican!
January 28th, 2009 at 7:20 pmOnly a wingut could look at vote where Republicans all stood together and voted “No” only to have the thing pass by over fifty votes and think, “Yeah! We won!”
I guess they’ve learned awfully quickly to be satisfied with “moral victories”.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:21 pm#53: We’ll discuss it when your team of losers provides the accountabiity for the $350 million we just forked over to the Bush crime family.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:22 pmThanks for the clarity on Dune. Rush still looks like a pus bag though.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:22 pmthe GOPers think they’re gonna get another ‘94…
thing is, now we all KNOW about what criminals they are…
they won’t get away with it again…
January 28th, 2009 at 7:23 pmRepubliscum: Obstructionists.
The jury’s now in on that label. From here on, the GOP will now be viewed by america as the GOO – Grand Old Obstructionts.
Hey, isn’t goo synonymous with pus?
January 28th, 2009 at 7:24 pmThe Repturds have successfully destroyed this country and the people will never let them forget it.
Any Repuke up for election in 2010 will definitely get unseated now.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:24 pmrimhotep Says:
Thanks for the clarity on Dune. Rush still looks like a pus bag though.
He could be a grownup Twinkie the Kid.
It would explain a lot.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:25 pmIf the republicans are going to be like this and vote no, even after concessions, let’s put the family planning and lawn work back into the bill when it returns from the senate.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:25 pmAcorn? Acorn? Someone needs to get their head out of their anal orifice on this one. This is right out of the delusional GOO talking points. What a laugh.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:25 pmrimhotep Says:
….sealing their fate for re-election in 2010 and 2012. Every one of these nay votes will be unseated by the american people. Let’s begin campaigning against them immediately.
Yeah!
these self-interest politicians days are short. They have learned nothing these last two elections.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:26 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
barack obomber Says:
5 billion to ACORN.
Prove it. We’ll wait….
Now you just confused our squirrel. Facts are the dire enemy of the GOP.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:28 pmActually, I’m thrilled that the Obstructionists have finally shown their royal, collective a$$es to the american people.
Obama will look golden as he extended and over-extended the welcome mat and olive branch. These crude morons have shown their true colors.
Now there’s no need to further indulge these losers. Obama won and the american people have spoken. These pathological haters don’t have the first clue about partisanship. Hell, for 8 long years, they’ve worked with no one so how could they?
They’ve sealed their own fate now. Now we get to play hardball and make them look like gigantic oafs and losers.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:29 pmobamer has clearly misplaced his nuts.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:29 pmrimhotep Says:
obamer has clearly misplaced his nuts.
Just like his mind and the ability to think for himself.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:31 pmGame of Life: These losers have just been “Matthews-ized”. What child’s play for them to play right into Obama’s hands, too. He gave them enough rope to hang themselves. Gotta love it.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:32 pmsectionop92: That troll is a squirrely nutjob.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:32 pmCan you all lay off barack obomber a little.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:33 pmAfterall they managed to spell ACORN correctly this time…
Or Limpdick could be a stand in for Spanky on Our Gang?
January 28th, 2009 at 7:33 pmtalk about an “olive branch”:
Obama hosts White House “happy hour” to persuade wavering lawmakers
http://crooksandliars.com/silentpatriot/obama-hosts-white-house-happy-hour-p
…
i hope there’s a way to put those “compromises” back into the thing…
January 28th, 2009 at 7:34 pmrimhotep Says:
America KNOWS beyond a shadow of a doubt that these hypocrites gave Bush a blank check and looked the other way when they knew that the banking system was running amok. The GOP “owns this recession”, “owns this war”, and “owns the tanking of this country”.
About this there is absolutely no debate or argument.
chimpy was as stupid as these trolls. With all of his wiretapping going on why couldn’t he see this and his other f9uck-ups coming?
Really the majority of us don’t give a shit about repugs. We proved that.
WE WON FOTHERMUCKERS!
ahhahahaha
January 28th, 2009 at 7:36 pmWaaaaaaa Waaaaaaa Waaaaaaa
The 20 percenters sure sound funny these days. I like it.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:38 pmna na na na, hey hey hey, good-bye to 177 legislators whose re-election campaigns just marched off the cliff.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:41 pm[...]
One day after President Obama visited Capitol Hill, he is returning the favor by being host to about two dozen Democrats and Republicans on his turf. The event, scheduled to begin at 7:30 p.m., is the first-of-a-kind gathering in the new administration and the latest sign that Mr. Obama is attempting to build relationships with Congress.
The bipartisan affair is set to come shortly after the House considers the president’s economic stimulus bill. The roll call vote could make for some interesting conversation, particularly if the bulk of Republicans oppose the proposal as planned.
[...]
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/obama-holds-reception-for-congressional-leaders/
January 28th, 2009 at 7:43 pmDoes anyone have a breakdown of the votes? I know various websites will have the numbers come morning, but i’m impatient, dammit.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:43 pmEleven democrats are tired of their seats, apparently and joined the ‘wilted bush’ party:
Boyd
Bright
Cooper
Ellsworth
Griffith
Kanjorski
Kratovil
Minnick
Peterson
Shuler
Taylor
Who’s vulnerable?
January 28th, 2009 at 7:44 pmDick Armey is about to get lit on YouTube.
His dismissive attitude on Hardball is absolute garbage.
I’m proud of Joan Walsh for ripping at him in every exchange.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:44 pm*
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll046.xml
*
January 28th, 2009 at 7:44 pmrimhotep Says:
Game of Life: These losers have just been “Matthews-ized”. What child’s play for them to play right into Obama’s hands, too. He gave them enough rope to hang themselves. Gotta love it.
He sure did and they’re still swinging in the wind wondering what just happened.
repugs are trying to marginalize President Obama’s presidency.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:45 pmrimhotep Says:
Or Limpdick could be a stand in for Spanky on Our Gang?
I thought we agreed that limpydic is fat bastard from Austin Powers.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:46 pmproving once again they’re taking marching orders from rush baggyballs. partisan hacks til the bitter end.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:49 pmdick armey on hardball- showing all of america the didain the repukelican party has for women.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:50 pmsectionop92 Says:
Dick Armey is about to get lit on YouTube.
His dismissive attitude on Hardball is absolute garbage.
I’m proud of Joan Walsh for ripping at him in every exchange.
And Bob Herbert, too, who came on in the next segment and immediately condemned Armey’s conduct and said Armey owes her an apology.
January 28th, 2009 at 7:52 pmHippie_Crusher,
Did I miss your reply to my question from earlier about “corporate waste”?
January 28th, 2009 at 7:54 pmHippie Crusher can you get your fingers out of your fat sister long enought to type something coherent? Rush beat Obama? YOu REALLY think republican congressmen take thier marching orders from Rush? whahahahahahah. RUsh takes his orders from them, they send him his talking points..which is why idiots like you never have an opinion about anything until rush tells you what to think. Gee, republicans dont want to go along with Obama…well..f’ck em. THey wanna obstruct…well then they’ll get the blame if it all goes to heck….what their probably doing is refusing to go along with Obamas attempt to repair things because they are betting Dumbya screwed things up so badly that no amount of stimulus is going to repair the economy. And actually, betting on Dumbyas complete and utter ineptitude might be the best chance they have to regain power anytime this century…
January 28th, 2009 at 7:54 pmI predict the next 4 years will see almost all republicans trying to play a game of “blame it all on the n$Gg3r”
Oh, and hippie crusher…the bill passed anyway..so I guess Rush’s “victory” was pretty hollow…
January 28th, 2009 at 7:55 pmThe Republicans are so tangled up in their rhetoric they don’t realize they have just displayed their own impotence for all to see.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:05 pmRUsh takes his orders from them, they send him his talking points
Which is why the poor idiot had to apologize to the fat ass. The republicans neeeeeed the fat ass, among others, as they have for 10+ years, to promote their propaganda. It’s not rocket science, it’s a concerted effort to control. They thought they had it, but underestimated what they could actually do and went too far. Suck it.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:05 pmHippie_Crusher
This is the only thing I will ever say to you.
“You are a disgusting, disturbed, little person who cannot rub two neurons together and create cogent thought, and therefore not worth my (or anyone else’s time).”
Have a nice day, loser.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:08 pmwhaaat???
just saw a clip of boner saying the pugs had their OWN plan,
BETTER! CHEAPER!
they were just waiting for the right time to pull it out?
they really must think people are stupid.
or, they’ve just not accepted the power of the internets:
January 28th, 2009 at 8:19 pmthe perfect memory.
What the he!! did Obama spend all that time working with the conservatives for??? I hope he’s a fast learner!
January 28th, 2009 at 8:22 pmThe crybaby repubs are on C-Span; Rep. Todd Akin of Missouri just insulted Barney Frank, by name.
I think it’s a breach of House rules. I hope they fine the little weasel.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:24 pmI hope he’s a fast learner!
The proof of this is to look at where Obama was 8 years ago and where he is today.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:24 pmKaty, the right wingers had their own plan? Yeah right, suuuuuuuuure they did. The right wingers are lazy. They don’t care about Americans, well, except for those Americans who are in the top 1-5% of the food chain. The last time the right wingers had a new fresh idea is when….
Okay. I can’t think of one. Nevermind.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:24 pmDid everyone see Dick Armey drunk on the air today and being a sexist Neocon Pig to Joan Walsh? No? Well, you can find the video here:
http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/3308
An email is provided to complain to MSNBC for allowing Armey on!
January 28th, 2009 at 8:25 pmHey Mr. President,
It is my hope that you are now convinced that it is time to COMPLETELY ignore the GOP.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:29 pmHippiecrusher hates America first.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:38 pmThe Democrats need to push the line that 100% of Republicans followed the drug addict and thrice divorced Limbaugh’s orders like good little dittoheads.
Wingnuts. Lunatics. Hate mongers. America haters. All 100% of them. Why, they have to be. They did exactly what their party leader Limbaugh wanted them to do.
Fact.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:45 pmKayInMaine Says:
Did everyone see Dick Armey drunk..?
Sure did. Emailed that *sshole Matthews for giving a forum to such a bigot and scumbag.
Matthews did say Armey “went over the line” in a following segment, which means MSNBC’s lines and computers had to be smoking from the incoming anger.
Armey is one of those people that you’d just punch for GP if you ever met him. Like a Hannity. They just seem to need to be hit.
January 28th, 2009 at 8:51 pmNot enough time to read through all comments. So this is in no way connected to anything but the Topic.
Boo-Yah!
Suck on it you Anti/Un American SCUM!
More to come ;)
January 28th, 2009 at 9:04 pmP.S. That goes for our Trolls too.
Heh
January 28th, 2009 at 9:05 pmThis is what happens when you that grown man dressed in a diaper from the Little Rascals(the one with a 5 o’clock shadow who smoked a cigar) run your party.
In the land of the impotent, the one rotund raisin-nut disc-jockey is king.
January 28th, 2009 at 9:11 pmThis is the same army who outed Plame?
January 28th, 2009 at 9:12 pmAnybody know what happens next?
Does the Senate have to pass a parallel bill?
If NOT A SINGLE GOOPer voted for it, does that mean they don’t get any of the money? Heh… just asking.
January 28th, 2009 at 9:18 pmtros – richard wolf on countdown said it will go to the senate and they will change it some and it will pass, with maybe a few repugs, then back to the house – and by then some repugs will have heard from home and will also vote FOR it…
i could be mistaken…
January 28th, 2009 at 9:39 pmand there’s a term for that final house vote… spaced it out…
i just ran across a quote i’d written down… forgot to credit it:
“can’t we just say that the people who got it wrong
dont get their way any more?”
could be jon stewart…
January 28th, 2009 at 9:45 pmkaty Says:
and there’s a term for that final house vote… spaced it out…
___________
Any chance the Senate is where the GOOPers will try to filibuster it?
January 28th, 2009 at 9:49 pmBreakdown of the Blue Dogs who voted against the bill…
Allen Boyd (FL-2) CPVI:R2
Bobby Bright (AL-2) CPVI:R13
Jim Cooper (TN-5) CPVI:D6
Brad Ellsworth (IN-8) CPVI:R9
Parker Griffith (AL-5) CPVI:R6
Paul Kanjorski (PA-11) CPVI:D5
Frank Kratovil (MD-1) CPVI:R10
Walt Minnick (ID-1) CPVI:R19
Collin Peterson (MN-7) CPVI:R6
Heath Shuler (NC-11) CPVI:R7
Gene Taylor (MS-4) CPVI:R16
Only Cooper and Kanjorski represent districts that went for Gore in ‘00 and Kerry in ‘04 (Cook Partisan Voting Index doesn’t include ‘08, so it’s slightly flawed, though still a good indicator of a district’s political leaning). Cooper coasted to an easy victory in November; Kanjorski won 52-48. Bobby Bright, Parker Griffith, and Frank Kratovil are first-term Congressmen representing largely rural districts south of the Mason-Dixon Line. Walt Minnick represents a district in Idaho (enough said).
My point is…it was politically advantageous for them to vote against the bill with just under two years before the next election. None of them (with the exception of possibly Kanjorski) will see a significant primary challenge, and all can expect a spirited race in 2010 from Republican opposition.
January 28th, 2009 at 9:52 pmAll the GOP fools have done is hand Obama a political truncheon. Honestly, what the hell did they think the Democrats would do with their inane “100 percent opposition” plan??? I can see it now: “When President Obama acted to rescue this economy, put Americans back to work, and help you keep your home, Republicans said ‘NO.’ Say ‘NO’ to them in 2010.”
Idiots.
January 28th, 2009 at 9:54 pmDo you suppose those Repubs will get invited back to another cocktail party?
January 28th, 2009 at 10:06 pmoh – it was lawrence odonnell on countdown…
and it’s “final passage” i was looking for…
heh…
January 28th, 2009 at 10:16 pmi didn’t hear about a filibuster…
January 28th, 2009 at 10:16 pmBrilliant plan Repugs,
Vote as a solid block on every piece of legislation not submitted by a Republican.
You have just lost every true Independent voter. Any voter who might be tempted to vote Republican based on a couple of issues won’t . . .knowing the GOP MO, particularly Independents. No rational voter would register as an Independent then vote Republican, they would simply register and vote Republican. The ability to attend party primaries and caususes being critical in most states.
With this stratgies, Repubs might ultimately garner the votes of fringe groups, but those groups are numerically irrelevant. Any Independent who did not wish to support your full slate of policies wouldn’t vote Republican. Your stance prohibits voters with a variety of views from voting on candidates based upon their state and local candidates campaign promises, because, obviously, once they’re elected, those candidates would have to fall into line.
The number of Americans in the GOP club, white, narrow-minded males, is aging out. In this state, Independents out number Democrats and Republicans. We’ve turned from Red to Blue.
Keep voting as a block, you insure your own demise.
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Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
The DOW closed Up 200.72 (2.46%). The markets are turning around. The Democrats are doing what’s good for America, while the reich-wingers only care to score points with Drugbaugh.
Now all they have to do is stop perpetual war, bring back high tech from Asia, as well as manufacturing, Hakt extortion bailouts to banks, and stop illegals being given amnesty to work non-union construction jobs.
January 28th, 2009 at 10:43 pmBarak asks for bipartisanship, Dems stip the “no corporate airplanes” provision from the bailout, then strips Mall renovations and family planning provisions from the bailout plan, and asks Limbaugh to cut down on the rhetoric after Limbaugh proclaims his wish that “Obama fail,” GOP Rep. Gingrey repremands Limbaugh for his comments, then ” Gingrey Begs Rush Limbaugh For Forgiveness” and then EVERY GOP Rep votes against the bailout.
This is another Iraq war vote moment . . . and once again, Republicans are on the wrong side of the tally.
Republicans are not pro-America, they are pro their own vested interests in perpetual office. Once again, they lose. Unfortunately, so does America. Thousands dead, thousands homelessand unemployeed, fortunes and retirements lost, the rich richer, the majority poorer, hope lost, one-percenters parachute to greater prosperity on the backs of the recently unemployeed, Sarah gets a PAC . . . and the GOP remains clueless.
A Confederacy of Dunces, kick these idiots out.
January 28th, 2009 at 10:43 pmSo the GOP leadership has decided to return to the divisive rhetoric that has put off most Americans during the past few years, despite Obama’s willingness to compromise on the stimulus package.
Well, the Democrat-controlled Congress should pull the rug out from under the GOP’s feet and remove all of the compromised components of the proposal–yank out most of the tax breaks and restore the rest of the funding for infrastructural development–and get the thing passed without the support of the GOP leadership.
Obama and the Democrats in Congress need to be true to their convictions. If the stimulus package results in an economic turn-around within the next year or so, then they should receive all of the credit. If after two years we see no significant improvement in the economy, then they will have to accept the blame and will no doubt face the consequences during the next Congressional election cycle. But at least they can say that they supported policies that they believed in.
January 28th, 2009 at 11:03 pmThank GOD the Republicans grew a set and took a principled STAND against this abomination; this RAPE of the American taxpayer!!!
January 28th, 2009 at 11:23 pmHippie_crusher Says:
Rush Limbaugh – Was challenged by the most powerful man in the world and won.
Phil Gingrey is the most powerful man in the world? Who knew?
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Hippie_crusher Says:
House GOP & John Boehner – Not a single “yea” vote. Speaks volumes.
Yes it does, especially after Obama caved on the things they were complaining about. From now on, no Republican is going to get anything they want put into or removed from any bill, ever.
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Hippie_crusher Says:
Obama – Shown for the hypocrite he is with his “bipartisanship” BS.
He listened to them, and even made modifications to the package based on their concerns. They stabbed him in the back. Now everybody knows who can be trusted to be bipartisan and who can’t.
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Hippie_crusher Says:
Loses his battle with Rush over Republican influence.
Are you really saying Rush Limbaugh is in charge of the Republican party? Because that’s pretty f**ked up there, if true. You guys are toast.
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Hippie_crusher Says:
Of course, in the end the American people are loosers as well, given that the Democrats did pass a bill bound to increase the deficit by trillions and cripple the American economy.
1. That’s under a trillion, not “trillions.” Republicans can’t do math.
2. The American economy is already crippled, in case you hadn’t noticed.
3. Would have been nice if Bush hadn’t already increased the deficit by a trillion for nothing.
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Hippie_crusher Says:
Do you think Mr. Obama’s hubris and statement to the Republicans “I won!”, just came back to bite him in the a#s……….?
Wanna compare approval ratings?
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LushInterior Says:
I will admit it was a tough choice but either way my investment will soon show a greater profit than that of the above bill.
When the bill works you’ll just claim that the economy would have improved anyway and then blame Obama for the deficit.
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barack obomber Says:
5 billion to ACORN. that is ridiculous. ACORN sucks and so do you guys for not wanting to discuss the nearly trillion dollar bill further.
I’d love to discuss it! Where exactly is that 5 billion dollar line item you were talking about? Or is it so sneaky it’s actually invisible? Ooohh…
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John Kerry Says:
HA!
Remember 1993!!
Get ready libs!
We gotcha!!
Um, what? All you did was vote against a bill to get the economy back on track, and it passed anyways. That’s called “losing.”
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Tim Vaculik Says:
Thank GOD the Republicans grew a set and took a principled STAND against this abomination; this RAPE of the American taxpayer!!!
Where were you when Bush was giving it to you long and slow for the last eight years, taxpayer? Besides, Obama campaigned on this and won by a landslide anyway. You can’t rape the willing. ;)
January 28th, 2009 at 11:39 pmToo bad our new President’s attempt at securing political cover for his monstrous spending bill BACKFIRED!
His naivete is really starting to show.
Hahahahaha
January 28th, 2009 at 11:39 pmTim Vaculik Says:
His naivete is really starting to show.
I agree that it really was naive of him to trust Republicans to be reasonable. Hopefully he’ll learn next time that your kind only understand one thing.
January 28th, 2009 at 11:44 pmY’know what can happen with naiveté, Timmeh?
It dissipates with experience.
Obama now nows that he can’t count on Republicans to lift a finger to help the economy or the nation. And you know what else?
He doesn’t have to. He’s got enough of a Democratic majority in Congress that the Republicans can hold their breath until they turn blue, and all they’ll get out of it is an indelible branding as the party of obstructionism..
January 29th, 2009 at 12:05 amHi Tim
January 29th, 2009 at 12:07 amSpending $800 billion in a way that is constructive and will create jobs of the future and put money in the pockets of average Americans who will spend it is NOT $800 billion down the drain like buying weapons for destruction or giving money to corporations who will put it in offshore accounts or buy French jets or French paintings or German luxury cars.
Economists know there is a multiplier effect. Randi Rhodes mentioned the stat today that every dollar spent on food stamps adds $1.73 to the economy.
January 29th, 2009 at 12:27 amThe GOP probably think it’s 1993. It isn’t. The economy is really in bad shape today, worse than 1992/1993, Obama won by a landslide (Clinton did not), and the Net is here to provide much needed clarity, true balance, and intelligence in the news.
This will really bite the GOP badly. Didn’t they see the last elections results? Even Fox reported that Obama won.
January 29th, 2009 at 12:32 amDidn’t Clinton’s first budget (cut the deficit from $250 billion to $125 billion) pass without a single Republican vote?
January 29th, 2009 at 12:35 amThe bill only has $88 billion in spending going toward productive sectors of the economy. Here’s a pie chart showing the allocations.
http://pndblog.typepad.com/.a/6a00e0099631d08833010536d9c2bb970c-popup
January 29th, 2009 at 12:37 amWhen will people understand, it’s not the political party, it’s ALL the politicians period! Republicans and Democrats alike! Democrats con their constituents by “acting” like they are for the common man, while the rich fat cats steal money from you from a different pocket.
The criminals here are the CEOs and ALL the politicians!
January 29th, 2009 at 12:45 am.
Yea!!!!!!
Only $275,000,000,000.00 in TAX CUTS!!!!!!!
(/snark)
January 29th, 2009 at 12:46 am.
Rachel says Moodys economy.com says every dollar in corporate tax cuts stimulates the economy 30 cents.
January 29th, 2009 at 12:46 amAmazing how banks get $350 billion in two weeks and we have to wait three years.
January 29th, 2009 at 12:52 amThe criminals here are the CEOs and ALL the politicians!
I like Keith Olberman’s story the other night where sportscaster Al Michaels, who Keith described as a lifelong conservative, said that when they get all of the prisoners out of GTMO, they should send all the CEOs there.
January 29th, 2009 at 12:56 amadviceguy_07 Says:
The bill only has $88 billion in spending going toward productive sectors of the economy
Nice pie chart. Man, I’m not sure what you mean by the word “productive,” but I don’t think you mean the same thing as everybody else when they use that word.
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adviceguy_07 Says:
Democrats con their constituents by “acting” like they are for the common man…
Uh huh. As long as they “act” well enough to actually vote for things to improve the state of the nation, I don’t care if they don’t really mean it deep down inside. Other than that I don’t know what you’re basing this claim on, other than youthful, rebellious cynicism.
January 29th, 2009 at 12:56 amWhat infuriates me about this whole situation are the left winged close minded sheep that think that just because a group of people disagree with certain ideas, that the group is self serving.
The republican party at its core should trust in the invisible hand of economics. This vote shows that they do that. Republicans aren’t trying to play to their party, they are simply acting upon beliefs that are upheld with just as much evidence as the positions held by the dems. The only difference here is that historically the invisible hand out does the kind of economic policy enacted by the dems here.
I’m glad my state is red, and i’m quite sad that the rest of the nation is blinded this easily.
keynesian economics don’t account for large levels of inflation, which is exactly what is going to occur in a few years once the effects of this legislation hit.
I’m going to be up to my eye balls in taxes when I’m 40 because of this crap.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:02 amDon’t get me wrong, I think Obama is doing a great job in many things. But a new president does not mean the problems are solved. Bailing out the banks and borrowing money we don’t have does not sit well with me or our children.
If the stimulus plan is so good, why is there no commentary from congress or the administration’s economists as to the long-term effect of borrowing trillions of dollars? Where is the plan to pay it back? How is this going to impact the cost of future debt and what will the impact be upon future federal budgets? If there is nothing to be concerned about, then present the solution and be done with it.
There is no consideration for the real long-term impact; this king of policy-by-the-pants got us in trouble with TARP funds and it is going to fiscally kill our country. Who could vote for such a measure without weighing the consequences? This is not leadership, it’s incompetence.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:05 ami agree. We are going to come to a point soon, where china and other nations will no longer want to buy our debt. This decision only exacerbates that problem.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:17 amdemrcloseminded ,
Being a bit closed-minded, aren’t you. We are in this economic collapse because of Republican rule. At the end of eight years of Clinton, the problem was what to do with the $250 billion yearly surplus.
Clinton took us from 7.2% unemployment to 3.9%.
Bush II took us from 3.9% to 7.2% (13% if you include underemployed).
Average wages up 15% under Clinton. Down 2% under Bush.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:19 amclinton also started the issue with sub-prime mortgages. If you did any research into the issue, you’d realize that this is where the issue started. Also if you look up Bush’s history, you’ll see that on several occasions dating back to near his first year he made comments warning congress of Fannie and Freddie.
I just came out of an internship on the hill, and my name comes from what I experienced up there.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:22 amdemrcloseminded,
How about having to pay taxes due to the deficit spending of Reagan, GHW Bush, and GW Bush? They are responsible for $9 Trillion of the $11 Trillion debt. If you add all the other presidential administrations in US history, they are responsible for the other $2 Trillion.
Under Clinton, we lost $1 Trillion by paying interest on the debt incurred by Reagan and GHW Bush.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:25 amKeith,
Never mind demrcloseminded. It’s in his blood. I mean, if he hadn’t noticed, these past eight years the Bush Administration saw us through TWO financial recessions and lead us into a historic global depression. I’d say that Republicans sure did show us how well Ray-gun economics paid off.
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January 29th, 2009 at 1:26 amLiberals wanted regulations preventing predatory lending and the subprime mess. They were outvoted by the Republicans.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:29 amIt’s not really just the bad loans. It was what was done with the bad loans by the finanacial institutions. Sensible regulations would have prevented the collapse of the entire economy. You are not giving the Republicans any responsibility when they ruled totally for eight years.
>Which is why the poor idiot had
> to apologize to the fat ass.
He apologized because his higher ups told him to, and/or because he was probably getting death threats from insane trailer trash meth-head limpbaugh fanatics. Anybody who thinks rush controls anything but the inbred, .001 percent of america, the bottom feeding intellectual pond scum, is delusional. Rush himself even admitted he was “carrying water” for these republican politicians. Limbaugh is nothing but a mouthpiece, a well paid, drug addled, child molesting buffoon who gets his 40 million dollar marching orders from people behind the scenes. He controls the republican leadership as much as Tony Snow did, and hopefully karma has something equally unpleasant in store for the man…
January 29th, 2009 at 1:30 amMax-1,
January 29th, 2009 at 1:31 amRight, it is a waste of energy—too closedminded.
Did you read about projection in psych 101?
the debt incurred during regan allowed the US to outspend the USSR which ended the cold war! Also anyone with a brain knows it takes years in order for economic policy to take true effect.
Example, when Jackson closed the US bank, it wasn’t until his successor took office that the economy began to feel the negative effects.
Also my title is meant only to point out that most of the liberals on this page think GOP members are self serving, and that they refuse to recognize that there is more than one legitimate opinion regarding such matters.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:33 amI have heard this asinine spin of yours for 27 years now:
January 29th, 2009 at 1:37 amAll the bad under Reagan was due to Carter, all the good under Clinton was due to Reagan, all the bad under Dubya was due to Clinton, and if anything good happens under Obama it will be due to Dubya.
The mind can spin anything into anything.
>The republican party at its core should trust in the >invisible hand of economics.
Right, except when they need to bailout thier buddies at the banks, and the Savings and Loans, and…..
I hate to tell you this buddy, but there is no “invisible hand of economics”. economics is essentially a set of man made regulations and rules about what has value in society and what doesnt…..the only natural “hands” are anarchy, darwinism, and the law of the jungle. Is your neighbor bigger than you? Well, then if we let the “invisible hand of nature” run things, then he’s free to come into your house, kick you out, and take your stuff. Physical force is just as “natural” or as you may say, “invisible”, if not more so, than abstract economic constructs like “credit default swaps”….so why is it that the “invisible hand” of economics is such a wonderful thing yet somehow if one were to argue that the “invisible hand of nature” was a great thing they’d be called “anarchists”?
January 29th, 2009 at 1:40 amand the mind can ignore facts and embrace idiocy.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:40 am>the debt incurred during regan allowed the US
> to outspend the USSR which ended the cold war!
bwhahahahaha! myth myth myth. communism is an even more deeply flawed concept than capitalism, the USSR was collapsing
January 29th, 2009 at 1:44 amon its own even without our help. and the cold war ended, so what? according to your hero dumbya, al-quader is an even greater threat than the russians…do you rememeber them holding american citizens without trial during the cold war?
demrcloseminded Says:
The republican party at its core should trust in the invisible hand of economics.
You don’t know what the function of the “invisible hand” is, do you? Hint: it’s not an idol that you pray to to make everything all right.
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adviceguy_07 Says:
If the stimulus plan is so good, why is there no commentary from congress or the administration’s economists as to the long-term effect of borrowing trillions of dollars?
It’s under 1 trillion. Will you people please stop saying “trillions?” If you can’t count how just many trillions are involved, how do you expect me to take your economic theories seriously?
And it’s going to really, really suck. I’m very worried about it. But the alternative is worse, because with an economy in the terlet there isn’t any revenue to pay off debt anyway. And it wouldn’t be nearly so bad if Bush hadn’t upped the debt by a trillion already with nothing to show for it, but I didn’t hear you complaining about that at the time.
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demrcloseminded Says:
Who could vote for such a measure without weighing the consequences? This is not leadership, it’s incompetence.
You’re assuming the consequences haven’t been weighed. Which is to say, you’re assuming.
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demrcloseminded Says:
i agree. We are going to come to a point soon, where china and other nations will no longer want to buy our debt. This decision only exacerbates that problem.
I really am not hearing an alternative from you guys. China would be more likely to shut off the debt quicker if they realized we were in for a long term depression and would never be likely to pay it back. It is necessary to try to get out of this hole.
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demrcloseminded Says:
clinton also started the issue with sub-prime mortgages. If you did any research into the issue, you’d realize that this is where the issue started. Also if you look up Bush’s history, you’ll see that on several occasions dating back to near his first year he made comments warning congress of Fannie and Freddie.
Clinton invented sub-prime mortgages? Who knew? Also, subprime mortgage =/= Fannie/Freddie. In fact, the definition of “subprime” is one which does not meet Fannie/Freddie’s underwriting guidelines. At least it didn’t until the Republicans pushed that change through.
This was caused purely by speculation in real estate as if it were gambling chips, leveraged (aka. magnified) by the creation of vastly overvalued Credit Default Swaps, leveraged again by CDS Protection deals, linking all of our financial institutions together with no transparency whatsoever.
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demrcloseminded Says:
I just came out of an internship on the hill…
No you didn’t. That’s a lie. You’re lying.
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demrcloseminded Says:
Also anyone with a brain knows it takes years in order for economic policy to take true effect.
Only Republicans claim that to cover for their failed administrations. It takes about 2 years, less if you intentionally go for rapid readjustments.
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demrcloseminded Says:
…most of the liberals on this page think GOP members are self serving…
Many GOP members are in fact not self-serving at all. Rather, they serve their masters and overlords to their own detriment, for reasons I still cannot fathom.
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demrcloseminded Says:
…they refuse to recognize that there is more than one legitimate opinion regarding such matters.
Your opinions regarding such matters have been duly considered and found to be illegitimate.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:46 ami’m glad that you all are so stupid. it puts a perspective on things.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:47 amoh, and by the way, shortly before we deposed him, Saddam began using the “invisible hand of the free market” to sc3w us by switching to selling his oil to euro instead of dollars. Do you care to enlighten us about the possible repurcussions of saddam doing so would have been? Or maybe hes just a crazy madman and does things for no reason, rigght? thats why we were buddies with him for so long..
January 29th, 2009 at 1:49 amdemrcloseminded Says:
and the mind can ignore facts and embrace idiocy.
I gave you nothing but facts. You gave me nothing but idiotic spin.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:50 am>i’m glad that you all are so stupid.
why dont you dazzle us with your educational pedigree troll?
January 29th, 2009 at 1:50 amKeith,
Are you accusing me of being a member of the victim class? LOL:)
… It was a prerequisite.
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January 29th, 2009 at 1:52 am“It’s under 1 trillion. Will you people please stop saying “trillions?”
To be exact, it’s $1.3 trillion after interest over a 10 year period.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:52 amElBruce,
January 29th, 2009 at 1:53 amHe meant he just came out of an intern of the Hill.
you know, your right, we probably are stupid, compared to most of the trolls we get around here…would you beleive we’ve had not one, but two, actually two whole right wingers on this site who are retired military multimillionaire lawyers who apparently have nothing better to do than sit on the internets and argue with people who dont agree with them..
January 29th, 2009 at 1:53 amLet me give you some math about US deficit. There is not just one person or party to be blamed.
In November, it was already $7.7 trillion estimated.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=an3k2rZMNgDw&refer=home
The amount grew to $8.5 trillion in Dec.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/calculating-the-total-bailout-costs/
CNN estimates $8 trillion
http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/06/news/economy/where_stimulus_fits_in/index.htm?postversion=2009010615
Now add the stimulus bill ($1.3 trillion), Bank of America + Citi = $300+ billion (bailout and gaurantees), GM+Chrysler, and the list goes on.
Conservative estimate of grand total = $10+ trillion when recovery might happen next year.
Now, let’s not forget the tabs for the war in Iraq, Afghan, social security debt($50 trillion), Credit Default Swaps that will need more bailout(in the trillions), etc…
Who will pay for it? China?
January 29th, 2009 at 2:04 amSorry for the confusion, the $10+ trillion is not US Deficit, it’s the pricetag for a recovery. The deficit + the other items are much worst. US will be insolvent when Asian and the oil kings stop buying US Dollars.
January 29th, 2009 at 2:08 amYeah!
Dems didn’t get all they wanted . . . GOP voted as a block against all. Obama got his bailout bill, Americans will get jobs . . . symbolic win for Obama (symbolic win for GOP, but makes apparent GOP is neutered).
Obama will have lots of time to get deals done that weren’t included in this package . . . but we must demand . . . stark restrictions on corporate pay and perks, environmental issues must be addressed . . . and retrospective looks must be taken . . . if the US doesn’t look at war crimes, others will, the Obama Administration must look at Geneva Convention violations, Constitutional violations . . . . if the Administration won’t, Congress must. Congress doesn’t, Americans must, and look at each of their Congress prople who refused to do so.
January 29th, 2009 at 2:23 amThat is a record few cats who strayed from the herd.
January 29th, 2009 at 4:29 amWhile it’s not great that 12 Dems strayed from the package, we need more of a fight. It’s not great if either Dems or Repugs simply vote party lines.
Let’s have a discussion, a bipartisan argument . . . Americans aren’t served by two servile voting blocks.
January 29th, 2009 at 4:44 amStill, if that is the Republican strategy, Dems need to pick an issue that is so obviously in the interests of the American people, stick in Republican’s maw and require adherence.
Today, Repubs, who have been wishy-washy on infrastructure and are now trying to claim it as their own, stick that in their faces . . . pick projects that are in the works, that are ready to go, not water parks, but roads and bridges in the West . . . see how that sticks.
January 29th, 2009 at 4:50 amWhile Democrats and Repubilcans alike attempt to garner the Lincoln legacy, both covet the abolition of slavery but ignore the fact that he oversaw the engineering of the intercontinental railroad. That was an amazing feat, both in its tragedy and success.
While not discounting the tragedy to the American Indians and the devestation to the buffalo, deer, elk and other indigeneous species, Lincoln is truly responsible for the realization of “American Destiny.” America’s rail system is badly broken, and our plumbing and electrical systems in desparate need of 21st Century repairs, these are not sexy issues, but many Americans, are frankly facing destitution, and have the skills and the will to make those repairs. Like As Rosie the Riviter, I ask, Obama, how can I help?
Shut up, those of you that discount my plea. You are the Washington DC elite. I am a well educated, unemployed person concerned about my mortage foreclosed. Shut your smug trap. Humility is everything out here (probably in you neighborhood too, just no-one is willing to admit it). If you don’t know that, sell your airplane and get rid of you hired help, close your off shore accounts and pay your taxes.
Recall the French Revolution. You doubt that the populace has the gall, but we do, and you won’t be eating cake.
While I don’t call for nasty revolution, I do call for fairness and for all of you billion-million-aires to come to attention. This is insanity. You have so much and so many have so little . . . people on the Gulf Coast still have no homes, hundreds of thousands of people are unemployeed, millions are losing their homes . . . STAND UP! Are you American or are you not?
January 29th, 2009 at 5:13 amYes, that post was riddled with misspellings and my grade sschool teacher would be ashamed, but you get the gist.
January 29th, 2009 at 5:36 amMiss Penn, (my typing teacher) you failed. It wasn’t for lack of trying on my part. I can spell, I just can’t type.
January 29th, 2009 at 5:41 amFascists thrive when a country suffers a Depression.
January 29th, 2009 at 9:41 amHippie Crusher squawks:
Thank you… now step off.
January 29th, 2009 at 9:53 amYeah, thanks for your part in causing all of those problems. However, you forgot the senselees war. Go away. We’ll fix it.
January 29th, 2009 at 10:03 amadviceguy_07 Says:
Let me give you some math about US deficit. There is not just one person or party to be blamed.
The problem is using that to complain about this bill. The difference between the spending before and the spending now is that this spending will give us something to show for it.
Let me give you a simple analogy: let’s say you nearly max out your credit card going to movies and restaurants. Then, realizing how indebted you are, you decide you need to get some income. This is like buying an interview outfit because all of your clothes are old t-shirts and cutoffs. You can complain that you’re already so much in debt that you should stop spending, but the fact remains that you have to actually invest in order to fix the problem of your broke-ness.
So Republicans whine about Democratic spending? They’re the ones who blew the vast majority of that deficit on pew-pew-boom-boom good times. Which would be fine if they didn’t already smash the economy to hell. Now we have to get the economy back on its feet, and that requires investment, period. The significant difference here is between stupid overspending and intelligent investment. Republicans do the former, Democrats the latter.
Thus, Republicans are in no position to complain about the current slate of Democratic spending initiatives.
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ctcadguy Says:
Fascists thrive when a country suffers a Depression.
Yeah, but so do Communists. They’d do well to remember that.
January 29th, 2009 at 10:14 amyou know what congress should build before it builds wind farms and new roads? it should build breeder nuclear reactors. Not only does this give us jobs, but it gives us clean cheap energy. It could also open up more research into the field. Right now China is years ahead of us in terms of developing new nuclear tech. We could fix that and give people jobs, and help the private sector and help reduce America’s carbon footprint (not that it needs reducing) just by building these reactors.
January 29th, 2009 at 11:24 amHey Repsarestupid
There is no downside to wind and solar they dont have the dangers of nuclear. I am all for doing the research for fusion but todays reactors have too much downside. Wind and solar would also create jobs not to mention we could push the research to the point WE are light years ahead of the rest of the world in green energy production. You are fighting the last energy war and you already lost that argument. Then again Reps ARE stupid
January 29th, 2009 at 12:43 pmElBruce,
I am not complaining. Overall I think the bill is fine but it should not be rushed out the door without examining the little details that will bite you later.
Sometimes we gotta stop being blinded behind the “Messiah”’s shining light.
January 29th, 2009 at 12:55 pmadviceguy_07 Says:
What messiah? Did Jesus show up and I missed it or are you repeating that REALLY stupid bit of Limborg hivemind stupidity about Obama? If you are then BITE ME
January 29th, 2009 at 12:58 pmRepsarestupid
i’m glad that you all are so stupid. it puts a perspective on things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Pure projection see the problem is you are monumentally ignorant. So astonishingly stupid in fact that you cant even RECOGNIZE higher brain function. I think that gives you something to shoot for. Clearly PERFORMING higher brain function will always be far beyond your pathetic abilities, however if you try hard, the day MAY come that you can recognize it. Till them you are just a brainwashed braindead moron without a clue.
January 29th, 2009 at 1:20 pmLTdan Says:
What is all over is your cover Danny. You are stupid, you are a punk and you are a troll and you are garbage. You are also a liar and a fool
January 29th, 2009 at 3:49 pmdemrcloseminded,
Nuclear energy cheap?
How much does it cost to store the most dangerous substance we know for 4 BILLION years?
Give me a rough estimate in 2009 dollars.
It is not liberals who have prevented nuclear plants from being built in the past 25 years—it is costs. The costs of solar energy are rapidly going down.
BTW, Reagan was on GE’s payroll. GE built nuclear plants. GE owns NBC. Limbaugh on NBC’s payroll. ETC.
January 29th, 2009 at 3:50 pmLTdan Says:
Its all over libs, obama will be impeached before his 4 years are up
What in the *&%# are you talking about?
January 29th, 2009 at 3:52 pmI meant to add:
January 29th, 2009 at 3:55 pmWestinghouse used to own CBS. Westinghouse built nuclear plants. Liberal media, my a$$.
Keith Says:
He is a troll. He is aiming at provocation but is just too stupid to pull it off.
January 29th, 2009 at 4:17 pmthis is why nuclear is not a stupid idea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor
http://www.cryocell.com/ccell.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_France
read it yourself, and yes i know its wikipedia, but you can deal with it.
January 30th, 2009 at 1:32 amoh and the whole internship thing wasn’t a lie. I worked in the cannon building 5th floor. i was on the side of the building opposite the capital south metro station
January 30th, 2009 at 1:37 amalso im just wasting my time here. most of you are incapable of actually listening. you won’t hear from me again. if anyone actually wants to have a discussion on topics let me know.
January 30th, 2009 at 1:40 amand how, pray tell, do we let you?
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