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Bipartisanship? DeMint Predicts Zero Senate GOP Votes For Obama’s Recovery Package

Yesterday, despite President Obama’s unprecedented outreach — which included multiple working sessions on Capitol Hill and a White House happy hourzero House GOP members voted for the economic recovery package. Their reasoning was that Obama’s recovery package did not contain enough Bushonomics.

Today, hours after the GOP’s defiant no-vote, House Minority Whip Eric Cantor ironically penned an op-ed in Politico saying that the GOP should not simply become the party of “no” to the Obama agenda. “We pledge to become a party of inclusion, not exclusion,” he proclaimed:

At a moment when the country needs our help, it would be a great mistake for the House GOP to turn inward and simply become the party of “no.” We want our new president to succeed, and America needs our new President to succeed, which is why we will contribute the full force of our ideas to help him navigate the choppy waters.

The recovery legislation will now be heard by the Senate. Is there hope for bipartisanship there? Unlikely. Today on Fox News, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) excoriated the legislation and said that he “thinks” the bill will receive zero Senate GOP votes:

DEMINT: But I think it is going to help define the Republicans and the Democrats once again. Because every Republican in the House rejected this, and I think every Republican in the Senate might do as well.

Watch it:

The House GOP was unwilling to compromise from the start, requesting earlier this week that the caucus present “100 percent” opposition to the package. With DeMint’s comments, it appears that conservative senators are preparing to mount a similar offensive.

In his op-ed, Cantor emphasized that he wants “our new president to succeed.” If that is the case, why did his caucus take its marching orders from Rush Limbaugh, who has explicitly said that he wants Obama to “fail?”

Update The Wonk Room's Pat Garofalo notes that just a few weeks ago, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said, “I don’t think [the stimulus is] going to have any problem getting over 60 votes." Will McConnell keep his word and encourage members of his caucus to support the recovery?


126 Responses to “Bipartisanship? DeMint Predicts Zero Senate GOP Votes For Obama’s Recovery Package”

  1. Leftside Annie says:

    Stupid, evil, small-minded whiny drama queen Repukes.

    KICK ‘EM TO THE CURB!!!


  2. Old Goat says:

    “At a moment when the country needs our help, it would be a great mistake for the House GOP to turn inward and simply become the party of “no.” We want our new president to succeed”

    So far, they have been behaving like petulent children.


  3. Briseadh na Faire says:

    Will the Republicans in the Senate allow this to go to an up-or-down vote?


  4. cmac says:

    This is why the GOP was just delivered a resounding smack by the public. Party over country, again and again and again.


  5. ElBruce says:

    As long as they don’t filibuster, I don’t give a f**k what the R’s do. They can all go take a vacation in their home states for the next eight years, for all I care.


  6. spencers mom says:

    Has the secret hold been placed yet? If not, by the end of the day, I’m sure.

    Thank you, GOPers, for showing We the People so early in the Obama presidency that you intend to unite and obstruct regardless of the issue. “Citizens be damned! We’re looking to take back the majority!”

    PEACE


  7. raynman says:

    Party over progress

    Party over country

    Party uber alles

    It’s the Republican way


  8. BrianFL says:

    Give them enough rope….

    Every “Wall Street Republican” I know (I don’t know many of the religious right types of Republican) is extremely angry with how their party is playing politics right now (complaining for example about contraceptive and STD prevention funding) instead of working to solve this crisis.

    Getting your marching orders from Rush Limbaugh might play well with the Sarah Palin radical wing of the GOP, but won’t solve any of our problems and will politically push moderates towards Obama/Dems.


  9. SWBob says:

    It is obvious that Repubs think the various national disasters are not worth changing. What we have now is how they think America should be and there is no reason to change something that is perfect.

    They have proven over the past eight years that they will blindly vote the “party line” regardless of what Americans may want. Now primary tactic is to show Americans that the “party” is more important than every American citizen. Possibly they believe this shows strength and leadership ability. Sorry, Americans have had it with this selfishness.


  10. Chris L says:

    “At a moment when the country needs our help, it would be a great mistake for the House GOP to turn inward and simply become the party of “no.” We want our new president to succeed, and America needs our new President to succeed, which is why we will contribute the full force of our ideas to help him navigate the choppy waters.”

    They always do exactly the opposite of what they say. For the next 8 years, they will be the party of “no” right up until they are the party of “gone.” Not one republican in the House or the Senate cares about what America needs. They will be pushing, hoping, and praying for the economy to fail just so they can be right.


  11. Leftside Annie says:

    That idiot Cantor has been smoking those funny cigarettes again; either that or he’s been taking doublespeak lessons from George Orwell…


  12. Tired of being lied to says:

    The Republicans are showing their true colors, and they are all about the party and not about the people.

    Stubborn, pig-headed, my-way-or-the-highway, egotistical, puppets of Rush Limbaugh and his drones, who interpret bi-partisanship as getting everything they want and nothing for anyone else. Obama made accommodations in the stimulus package as suggested by the Republican leadership and all they gave in return was the middle finger. Sure, Obama did not give them everything the Republicans wanted, but he gave them more in good faith than the Republicans returned in their support. And let us not forget, Obama DID win the vote in November as well as a Democratic majority. America wants a change and they want it now.

    The childish, temper-tantrum display of the Republican Party will come back on them, damage them, and I say ‘well deserved.’

    So grow up. Put on your big-boy pants. Quit whining and complaining that you’re not getting your way. We’ve got big problems here and they were caused on the Republican watch. Doing more of the same thing will not reverse it, or save us. And neither will the Republican party as they are currently acting.


  13. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I trust President Obama is sharp enough, and well enough acquainted with Republican SOP that he is making this show of seeking bipartisanship, knowing that America wants it and that Republicans are incapable of delivering it.

    I trust that he also knows that Republicans are barely relevant at this point, and only in the Senate.


  14. mk3872 says:

    STOP MOANING about no GOP votes!!

    Did we really want to have more of the past 8 years’ failed policies in this bill??

    Of course not … PLEASE — let us allow them to continue to become more marginalized and box them into their red box in the south made up of all white racist guys.

    This is good for the country …


  15. eyesopen says:

    It is a classic and elementary tactic to say one thing for publicity and do another to satisfy an agenda.

    It is incumbent on real Americans to point out the use of this tactic to everyone, even if we have to start buttonholing people on the street to point it out. be sure that they understand that Republicans are trying to destroy our nation now as much as they ever did under George W. Bush.

    It will be supremely entertaining to see the result, which would be a diminished and irrelevant Republican minority in the next congress.


  16. Doc Rock says:

    The list of traitors to the American middle class and economically deprived grows! To fail to reinvigorate this economy will do more damage than al Qaeda ever dreamed! The Repugs are living in a power-induced and money-paved alternate reality.


  17. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Again, since them thar GOOPer fellers are so, huh, “principled”, will they refuse to take any of the money, once the bill passes?


  18. StratRat says:

    Because the GOP is filled with losers and failures, success is a foreign concept to them. They cannot understand that another group of people may have a better way, but then that would require an awareness of others – the GOP only sees itself. The arrogance of the GOP is limitless. The reason we are where we are is because of their control of the government – not the Dems. Their poor ideology is the reason the US is hurting. But what do they require? More of the same unproductive policies. Policies designed exclusively to cater to the base, not the country. Republicans don’t care about the country – only their own careers.


  19. hussein toasterhead says:

    ElBruce Says:

    As long as they don’t filibuster, I don’t give a f**k what the R’s do. They can all go take a vacation in their home states for the next eight years, for all I care.

    January 29th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
    ____________

    And if they really do want to filibuster, Harry Reid should let them have it. If any Republican senators would like to go on C-Span and read the phone book to hold up an economic stimulus bill the same week 85,000 people were laid off, by agolly they should. All the GOP will get out of it is a Tivo-load of campaign commercial fodder for any Democrat running in 2010.


  20. eve says:

    I wasn’t paying close attention but I think Kay Bailey said on MSNBC a few minutes ago that she will probably vote for the stimulus package.

    Anyone else hear that? Or did I get it wrong?


  21. Hoodathunk says:

    Too bad the Dims don’t play the old boogie-man-under-the-bed game. This business of calling to vote the ‘Party line’ played real well in Moscow for years.

    Until their economy collapsed.


  22. P.D. says:

    Remember when the Repugs practically shoved the Dems out the door when crafting policy? This guys are pathetic! Everyday more and more people are losing their jobs and these guys are whining about tax cuts for the wealthy? Contraception? Look I don’t like this package, but we have to try something! What do the Repugs want to do? Wait for the collapse of the Middle Class? Probably.


  23. misshusseinmolly says:

    In his op-ed, Cantor emphasized that he wants “our new president to succeed.” If that is the case, why did his caucus take its marching orders from Rush Limbaugh, who has explicitly said that he wants Obama to “fail?”
    ____________________________________________________________

    Rush Limbaugh having a stranglehold on the GOP is good for Democrats. Rush’s power comes from his audience, and in order for Rush to maintain that audience, he has to keep throwing red meat out to it. If Republican lawmakers want to kiss his pimpled butt because they’re afraid not to, that’s up to them, but it’s not going to garner them any support outside of Rush’s kool-aid drinkers. And it will do nothing to change the image of the GOP — the image of poor sport obstructionists who are more interested in their party “scoring” than what’s best for the country.

    They should consider that Rush’s best scenario is for the GOP to remain in the minority. As long as the Democrats have the power, Rush has something to rail against. He keeps his audience, he keeps his obscene salary, and as far as he’s concerned, the rest of the country can go to h*ll.

    Wise up, Republicans. By allowing Rush to play you, you’re feathering HIS nest while doing nothing to help yourselves.


  24. stjack says:

    Eric Cantor: the two new faces of the republican party!


  25. LizCoro says:

    BEHOLD . .

    The prescription drug addict Pillboy will lead his lemmings . .

    PATHETIC hypocrites!!


  26. Tweedster says:

    If Harry Reid buckles on this and does not force the Republicans to filibuster and explain why they withhold support for the stimulus package and continue to drag their feet while the economy gets worse, he should be recalled by the people of Nevada.


  27. nanlichi says:

    They won’t filibuster. They threaten to, but at the end of the day Repugs are simply pussies. Come on Harry, bust their balls. Please?

    And President Obama, stop talking to these traiterous bastards. They are not interested in helping our country, they want us to fail.


  28. ljm says:

    I’m going to start referring to the GOPpers as “the party of no” so that when the economy etc. does improve they won’t get any credit. Time to start scoping out those Dr. No’s who could be vulnerable in the next election and make it clear to their constituents how they are being represented. This is a Crisis. What part of that don’t they understand?


  29. Lungman424 says:

    They way I see it…Obama and the Dems tried compromise and it was thrown back in their face..Hopefully the Senate Dems will not try the same stupid tactic of compromise and put a stimulus package gear strictly to growth with no, we need bipartisan support and if the repugs don’t like it, make them filibuster it…and make them really filibuster it, not this week ass oh no the repugs are goin to filibuster it so we wont even make them filibuster, we’ll just go and hide in the corner…We won, elections have consquences, and if we don’t start acting and believing it, you all might as well resign and let Mitch McConnal run the country..


  30. Tweedster says:

    stjack Says:

    Eric Cantor: the two new faces of the republican party!

    These clowns are going to double-talk their way out of office. The Democrats MUST hold their feet to the fire and force a filibuster if need be. The Republicans NEED to be forced to explain to the American people why they refuse to vote for a bill that contains provisions (or contained!) “objectionable provisions” that totaled less than 2% of the stimulus package’s amount.

    $335,000,000 for STD prevention is 0.03% of the funding for the bill. They need to be hammered on dragging their feet as the economy crumbles over 0.03%.


  31. Hoodathunk says:

    Tweedster, what if they don’t want him back?


  32. misshusseinmolly says:

    It beats me why the Republicans are playing this game as if they are still in power. The progressive agenda WILL be what’s on the plate. And it WILL pass with or without the support of the GOP.

    They have two choices. They can get on board the train, where they may be able to have some input. Or they can petulantly and steadfastly remain on the station platform, where they will be irrelevant.


  33. Tweedster says:

    nanlichi Says:

    They won’t filibuster. They threaten to, but at the end of the day Repugs are simply pussies. Come on Harry, bust their balls. Please?

    And President Obama, stop talking to these traiterous bastards. They are not interested in helping our country, they want us to fail.

    I think Obama is playing his cards right on this one, and while it worries some of us he has removed less than 2% of the stimulus package (grass on the Mall, STD prevention), in the end he can batter the Republicans for being obstructionists since he’s given them a seat at the table time and time again.

    If/when it comes to a head, Obama has created a pretty strong position to call these guys out for what they really are.


  34. fletc3her says:

    Actions speak louder than words. The Republican party is voting against our national interest. They have pledged simply to be a roadblock to progress rather than helping to shape the future of this country.


  35. tarazan says:

    Rep. Cantor :

    “I meant to vote in support of Obama yesterday,but my vote took a different contour”..


  36. hussein toasterhead says:

    nanlichi Says:

    And President Obama, stop talking to these traiterous bastards. They are not interested in helping our country, they want us to fail.

    January 29th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
    ___________

    Exactly why he should keep talking to them. Obama has nothing to lose by remaining on the high road.


  37. Tweedster says:

    Hoodathunk Says:

    Tweedster, what if they don’t want him back?

    Very real possibility. If he worms out on this one and plays dead, he should be shot into orbit from one of the Cirque de Soleil cannons that must be hanging around in Las Vegas somewhere.


  38. Hoodathunk says:

    I am still absolutely baffled by the lack of response or comment from the Dims. Granted, their spokesman is a putz but there are close to 60 other Senators, a few of whom actually have spines and mouths.

    I would love to see a nose-to-nose between Cantor and Harkin. We really should be stepping up the pressure on these clowns to stand up and defend America.


  39. nanlichi says:

    You can’t negotiate with these people, stop trying.

    Two children and one piece of cake. The Republican says he wants it all, the Democrat says let’s split it. So they negotiate to the middle ground and the Republican pig gets 3/4’s of the cake and all is good?

    Fck them! Show some balls and smack the bastards down! I get so tired of Democrats playing “fair”.


  40. indomitablecynic..again says:

    I find myself agreeing with The Mint. Democrats should remain Democrats and Republicans, Goprs. Scrw the bipartisan crap.

    On another topic, who the hell cares what this Yoo character thinks anyway. Oh I get it, TP does.


  41. fromthevalleyofdeath says:

    It’s simple politics – Republicans have nothing to gain from going along with the Dems. If they go along and the plan succeeds, then they gain nothing. If it fails, however, and they all said no, they can use that to try and rebuild their sad party.

    And they won’t filibuster – they want it to pass without their support so they can hang all the economic issues on the Dems because the public has an attention span of about 10 minutes and a media that will reinforce this message (just has they have done this past week on the “pork” line).

    Trivial to predict that this would happen – I’m a bit surprised that Obama didn’t anticipate the strategy a bit more. Others have compared the Dems to Charlie Brown with Lucy pulling the ball back year after year – I think this is accurate – Dems should just recognize it.


  42. cwarddc says:

    There was a Democratic Congressman on Rachael yesterday who was a bit peeved that Obama was spending his time talking to the Rush Limpballs Party and not to them about the stimulus bill. Kind of like with the elegant dinner with the conservative columnists and the liberal columnists got coffee in a styrofoam cup. Obama should be careful that he doesn’t alienate his own party while kissing up to the Rush Limpballs Party. They will just stab him in the back anyway.

    Limpballs/Bible Spice 2012!


  43. nanlichi says:

    Ok. You guys are more savvy and obviously have cooler heads than I. I hope Obama knows what he’s doing. It hasn’t happened in the recent past.


  44. JohnnyRussia says:

    House Republicans = Limbaugh’s interns.

    http://jackrabbitcafe.blogspot.com


  45. politicscorner says:

    If DeMint is already opposed to the stimulus/jobs creation and saving legislation, we have to be on the right track to a good thing.

    DeMint’s got to be one of, if not the, most conservative member of the Senate. He thinks more like a House republican.


  46. Buckie Boy says:

    Party over everything….repubuscum are the party of ‘Our Way Only’

    Repukes = Roadkill – kick em to the curb, they are irrelevant and they know it.


  47. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    JohnnyRussia Says:

    House Republicans = Limbaugh’s interns.
    _____________

    There’s an error in your equation… it s/b…

    House Republicans = Limbaugh’s FLUFFERS.


  48. ElBruce says:

    hussein toasterhead Says:

    And if they really do want to filibuster, Harry Reid should let them have it. If any Republican senators would like to go on C-Span and read the phone book to hold up an economic stimulus bill the same week 85,000 people were laid off, by agolly they should. All the GOP will get out of it is a Tivo-load of campaign commercial fodder for any Democrat running in 2010.

    Remember when they literally shut down the Federal government in the 90’s for a couple of weeks? That worked out great for ‘em, didn’t it? I’d also like to see one of those wrinkled old bastards try to actually conduct a physical filibuster on the floor. I really would.

    .

    misshusseinmolly Says:

    Rush Limbaugh having a stranglehold on the GOP is good for Democrats. Rush’s power comes from his audience, and in order for Rush to maintain that audience, he has to keep throwing red meat out to it.

    This is an insane situation, and I hope they never realize what a mess they’re in. Rush’s audience is small, but they’ve been practicing grass-roots monkey-wrench tactics via his “Operation Chaos” initiatives. This would be the equivalent of the Democratic party being controlled by Anonymous. That’s how f**ked up the R’s situation is right now.

    .

    nanlichi Says:

    They won’t filibuster.

    If they were going to, they would have said so by now. That’s why they’re doing the “party line vote” thing – so they can look like they’re putting up opposition without actually preventing anything. It’s all theatre with those guys.


  49. APEC not OPEC says:

    Repulicans are the American Taliban.


  50. Tweedster says:

    nanlichi Says:

    Ok. You guys are more savvy and obviously have cooler heads than I. I hope Obama knows what he’s doing. It hasn’t happened in the recent past.

    Obama hasn’t known what he’s doing in the past? Or the Dems haven’t played politics right? I agree with the latter – the former, no way.


  51. Uncle Ho says:

    Cantor will be excommunicated by the Rethuglic party in 4…3…2…1..

    Not to mention being denounced by Limpdick, Brillo, Malkin, and other foaming-at-the mouth fascists.


  52. belac says:

    There’s an error in your equation… it s/b…

    House Republicans = Limbaugh’s FLUFFERS.

    Ahh, but to a House Republican, Intern = Fluffer so the two equations are equivalent.


  53. Old Goat says:

    LTfabulous sez:

    It’s because the package is disgusting.

    The man knows his packages…


  54. dbadass says:

    Hi LTdan
    Thanks so much for dropping by.
    Which parts specifically?


  55. katy says:

    ed schultz was just talking to Rep. Gregory Meeks, D-NY, … he asked if it was true that there are about 30 repugs who had planned to vote FOR the bill but changed their minds (cough cough) at the last minute…
    the meeks said it did happen…

    huh.


  56. hussein toasterhead says:

    LTdan Says:

    It’s because the package is disgusting.

    January 29th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
    ___________

    Why are you conservatives so obsessed with your genitalia? Get your heads out of the gutter alrady, sheesh!


  57. katy says:

    good point here:

    Ed Says: Obama tried…but they are still Republicans…

    We keep calling it a stimulus package, although the bill is officially called the Recovery and Reinvestment Act. So what is recovery? What is investment?

    Apparently, the Republicans have trouble with the definition of both and their votes last night prove it. Not one Republican voted for the bill to help the country in this time economic strife.

    They all cited… read more http://wegoted.com/


  58. Tweedster says:

    LTdan Says:

    It’s because the package is disgusting.

    Let’s hear some reasons. Support your answer and stop being so gloomy. Cheer up! If you are right, you shouldn’t be such a sad-sack about it.


  59. Tweedster says:

    LTdan, disgusting is such a strange word to use regarding legislation. Your explanation of this terminology has been icky at best. Let’s discuss your view, lest you condemn it to eternal grossness!


  60. ucsbclassics53 says:

    LT Dan! The man who says he is smarter than our president. How would you fix the stimulus, oh obviously sagacious lieutenant? Perhaps you can place a ban on usury just like the Bible tells us so…


  61. Leftside Annie says:

    Heh. Obama invited the Republican “leadership” to the White House last night for a cocktail party, eh?

    He should have used this as an opportunity to drop poison in all their drinks.


  62. belac says:

    LTdan… did Rush explain this morning why the package is disgusting?
    Or for what reason Obama would hand over tax-policy completely to the minority party (The Obama/Limbaugh plan he’s calling it…)

    Or (and this is the truly perplexing one) why the Republican’s in Congress are taking their marching orders from a thrice-divorced, pill-popping AM radio jockey? (not that any of that personal stuff matters, o’ course… except to Sean Hannity who keeps repeating that character does matter out o’ one side of his mouth and then praising Rush out of the other side)


  63. belac says:

    GOVERNMENT is not the anwser.

    Neither are well-worn and misspelled Reagan quotes… can you give us an answer?


  64. shoeless says:

    Good, then we can forget the a-holes and take their damn tax cuts out of the bill the House sent over, right?


  65. kasinca says:

    The rethugs have no ideas. They only know how to be against the democratic way of life. The majority should just go on with the country’s business and let these fools be defeated in two years. The news media should stop allowing all the negative bs on every channel It is unreal that every show has some idiot failed republican on there saying they want more of the same failed policies they dished out for the past eight years.


  66. Tweedster says:

    Leftside Annie Says:

    Heh. Obama invited the Republican “leadership” to the White House last night for a cocktail party, eh?

    He should have used this as an opportunity to drop poison in all their drinks.

    Here’s hoping that some embarrassing photos of wasted Repugs start to get leaked.

    Nah, Obama is too classy for that.


  67. Tweedster says:

    LTdan Says:

    GOVERNMENT is not the anwser.

    Care to expand on your profound theory LTDan? I’m eager to learn your beliefs so that I can apply them to my everyday life. Each post you give us is a jewel of wisdom – like a Buddhist haiku with half the words!

    I NEED MORE!!!


  68. katy says:

    ahhh, those french…

    French crowds march for job security, pay rises
    Reuters – 59 minutes ago
    By Estelle Shirbon PARIS (Reuters) – Hundreds of thousands of teachers, nurses, factory workers and plumbers marched through French cities on Thursday to demand pay rises and protection for jobs.
    Journalists’ strike leaves French TV and radio in turmoil guardian.co.uk
    French Workers Strike to Protest Economy Voice of America
    Bloomberg – The Associated Press – International Herald Tribune – AFP
    all 597 news articles »

    http://news.google.com/?ncl=1296896985&hl=en&topic=w


  69. Anonymouse says:

    They’re out of ideas and out of power.

    All they have is their unified resistance.


  70. shoeless says:

    LTdan Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    GOVERNMENT is not the anwser.

    At least, not when Republicans are running the government.


  71. Cappy says:

    “…we will contribute the full force of our ideas to help him navigate the choppy waters.”

    The waters are choppy because of all the hand waving by republicans in the pool.


  72. Old Goat says:

    LTfabulous says

    GOVERNMENT is not the anwser.

    Smells like a setup for a rehashed talking point


  73. Tweedster says:

    shoeless Says:

    LTdan Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    GOVERNMENT is not the anwser.

    At least, not when Republicans are running the government.

    SILENCE shoeless! We must eagerly await another nugget of pure genius from the annals of LTDan’s obviously encyclopedic knowledge of history and world affairs!!!

    SHHH…the Lieutenant is thinking.


  74. shoeless says:

    Tweedster Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Here’s hoping that some embarrassing photos of wasted Repugs start to get leaked.

    As far as John Boehnert goes, you could get one of those photos any day on the floor of the House.


  75. SWBob says:

    How creative of the Repubs, obstruct as much as possible, disrupt as much as possible and blame Obama for everything cheney/bush created. A plan to win American voters in 2010!


  76. Tweedster says:

    Old Goat Says:

    LTfabulous says

    GOVERNMENT is not the anwser.

    Smells like a setup for a rehashed talking point

    Sounds like a perfectly balanced sentence that conveys a strong, silent wisdom. LTDan is a man of granite-hard convictions. We should all respect this. His one sentence answers explain themselves with an elegant simplicity hardly any of us can claim to comprehend!!!


  77. Hoodathunk says:

    LTdan Says:

    GOVERNMENT is not the anwser.

    I’d say it depends on the question. Leashing corrupt Capitalists? Maybe the Pope will tell them to play nice?


  78. ucsbclassics53 says:

    LT Dan, please in your wisdom, tell us the virtues of consuming e.coli and salmonella…after all suffering must be a virtue as long as government is not there. Please reveal to us how to support e.coli…


  79. Hoodathunk says:

    Tweedster, I think you misspelled annals.


  80. Tweedster says:

    LTDan, please enrich us with your simple, yet complex theories of governance. Wandering through your mind is like meditating in the perfect Zen rock garden. I feel a tranquility after reading your deep and thoughtful posts that can only be described as religious bliss.

    PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US ALL. WE ARE WRETCHES WITHOUT YOUR GREAT POWERS OF OBSERVATION AND KEEN WIT TO GUIDE US!!!!!!!!!!!


  81. Old Goat says:

    Tweedster says:

    Sounds like a perfectly balanced sentence that conveys a strong, silent wisdom. LTDan is a man of granite-hard convictions. We should all respect this. His one sentence answers explain themselves with an elegant simplicity hardly any of us can claim to comprehend!!!

    Oh! My bad… I’ll just let him work at it then!

    I can definitely give the man room to move, to bind his thoughts and present them to us in easy to digest snippets.

    Sir, the floor is YOURS!


  82. hussein toasterhead says:

    LTdan Says:

    GOVERNMENT is not the anwser.

    January 29th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
    _____________

    To what question?


  83. Tweedster says:

    Hoodathunk Says:

    Tweedster, I think you misspelled annals.

    I know what you’re insinuating Hoodathunk. Profanity in the presence of the masterful mind of LTDan is a sure ticket to eternal damnation.


  84. Uncle Ho says:

    It can logically be deduced that LTdan’s day job is Blush Limbpick’s fluffer.


  85. Tweedster says:

    O! Where art thou LTDan! The children of this board require your infinite wisdom and compassion like the lotus needs water and sunshine.

    I lay myself before thee, O, Wise One! Save me!!! Save us all!!!


  86. Hoodathunk says:

    I think we might be being unfair to Lt. The Republicans have accomplished something that is exceptionally noteworthy. To make flatulence understandable as English is very impressive.

    One little request, Lt…could they use Certs instead of Preparation H?


  87. Tweedster says:

    Alright, I gotta break character and pose a serious question:

    What kind of idiot registers to post on a board and does such a shoddy job as that mental midget LTDan? The effort expended by simply signing onto TP must exceed his “input” like tenfold.

    What a freakin’ simpleton!


  88. Tweedster says:

    Hoodathunk Says:

    I think we might be being unfair to Lt. The Republicans have accomplished something that is exceptionally noteworthy. To make flatulence understandable as English is very impressive.

    One little request, Lt…could they use Certs instead of Preparation H?

    You know those closed door Repug meetings all look like Ace Ventura’s ass talking.


  89. Uncle Ho says:

    Tweedster; A warning or a word of caution. Never lay yourself before any Rethuglic party member or their cheerleaders.

    It’s an open invitation to sexual abuse.

    Kind of like waving a red flag at a bull, they can’t help themselves.


  90. ebbAndflow says:

    LTdan Says:

    It’s because the package is disgusting.

    January 29th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
    ~~~~~~~~
    A bit O/T but here’s what the world thinks about your former president:
    Shoe monument for man who threw footwear at Bush
    TIKRIT, Iraq, Jan 29 (Reuters) – An Iraqi town has unveiled a giant monument of a shoe in honour of the journalist who threw his footwear at former U.S. President George W. Bush.”
    http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LT502803.htm


  91. daveincolorado says:

    So, the republican senators can show that they also don’t know how to use their brains or think independent of the party’s leadership?


  92. ucsbclassics53 says:

    LT Dan, we are asking you questions to deeply profound inquiries. Since you are an oracle, much like the one at Delphi, we Greeks are coming to you for answers. Hopefully your answers will not be as cryptic as the oracle’s for us simple-minded folk…

    How do we support e.coli and increased pollution and no regulation? How do we support allowing corporations to get away with faulty products that hurt us?

    Teach us to accept personal responsibility for testing the foods we eat, the toys we buy for the children…

    Teach us to accept that government is only meant to funnel money to the extremely wealthy.

    Teach us to accept that government has to be drowned in a bathtub so that people can rely on their own in times of disaster.

    Teach us to accept that government should NEVER tax the rich, but only us little people.

    Teach us to accept that government is NOT the answer, except to make corporations and Wall Street wealthy.


  93. lokidog says:

    ljm Says:

    I’m going to start referring to the GOPpers as “the party of no”…

    Yep!

    The G”nO”P. Grand NO Party. And that’s where they’re headed. Nowhere, as their base becomes more and more bigoted and irrelevant, with the few reasonable ones left fleeing.


  94. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    LTDan, he’s the man
    If he can’t ’splain it
    Nobody can!

    I’m with Tweedster!! Enlighten us, LTDan. Tell us how the government (we, the people) are not the answer. And please, if you will indulge us, tell us what the answer actually is. We await your wisdom.


  95. Uncle Ho says:

    ebbAnd flow; thanx for the link.

    Soon to be a National Monument, A Holy Shrine.


  96. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    HAH! And all you panty-waist liberals scoffed at Rumsfeld’s (I think it was his) prediction that there would soon be a monument to Bush in Iraq!


  97. katy says:

    hey kids! i said:

    ed schultz was just talking to Rep. Gregory Meeks, D-NY, … he asked if it was true that there are about 30 repugs who had planned to vote FOR the bill but changed their minds (cough cough) at the last minute…
    the meeks said it did happen…

    does anyone know any details about this???


  98. nanlichi says:

    Tweedster,

    Sorry with the late response, damn work gets in the way. What I was referring to in a previous post was some of the recent “bipartisan” votes from Democrats. Appeasing the R’s by moving towards the middle and how much that strategy sucks.

    Obama is the most intelligent person we have ever had in the office, and I trust him to know what he is doing. I just have little confidence that he will find enough R’s that have the honesty, integrity and love their country enough to do the right thing instead of the Right thing.


  99. progressive homeschooler says:

    ElBruce Says:

    Remember when they literally shut down the Federal government in the 90’s for a couple of weeks? That worked out great for ‘em, didn’t it?

    Off topic I know, but I had to give you a recommend for this. It brought a flashback of Phil Hartman doing Admiral Stockdale and shouting “Gridlock!”


  100. Tweedster says:

    nanlichi Says:

    Tweedster,

    Sorry with the late response, damn work gets in the way. What I was referring to in a previous post was some of the recent “bipartisan” votes from Democrats. Appeasing the R’s by moving towards the middle and how much that strategy sucks.

    Obama is the most intelligent person we have ever had in the office, and I trust him to know what he is doing. I just have little confidence that he will find enough R’s that have the honesty, integrity and love their country enough to do the right thing instead of the Right thing.

    I feel you about the whole “work” thing…anyway, I totally see what you are saying. I just get a little wary of Progressives who feel the sky is fallingbecause Obama hasn’t come out and accomplished EVERYTHING he said plans to in the first few weeks of office.


  101. Tweedster says:

    Sadly, I believe LTDan has decided not to grace us with his continued presence. A sad moment, but one that we can all reflect on as not the beginning of the end, but the end of the beginning.

    We will hear more from LTDan, but as with all things Godlike, LTDan moves in mysterious ways.


  102. Tweedster says:

    progressive homeschooler Says:

    ElBruce Says:

    Remember when they literally shut down the Federal government in the 90’s for a couple of weeks? That worked out great for ‘em, didn’t it?

    Off topic I know, but I had to give you a recommend for this. It brought a flashback of Phil Hartman doing Admiral Stockdale and shouting “Gridlock!”

    “They way you sat their in stunned silence for 20 minutes proved to the American people that you’re a deep thinker. Not just one of these run of the mills politicians that like to run their mouths.” paraphrasing of Carvey sublime portrayal of H. Ross Perot.

    Also, RIP Mr. Hartman – you were a top notch comedian, and probably would’ve pulled a helluva good Cheney impersonation.


  103. christopher wiwi says:

    These are a Party of whiners,their tax cuts haven`t worked in the past and yet they want more,I don`t get it.For a bunch of adults there schoolyard tactics are just that, of a sore loser who needs his momma`s teet.Do they pray about Obama failing in church or only at the office.For christians they sure do alot of hating or is it just hypocrisy they preach.


  104. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Whatsa matter, LTDan?

    Pressure to perform getting to ya?

    Cat got yer tongue?


  105. ucsbclassics53 says:

    LT Dan, I need your wisdom in supporting this…oh glorious mold in our peanut butter plants!


  106. EugeneDebs says:

    LTdan Says:

    You are just an ignorant punk troll without a single functioning braincell or a shred of decency. Do the world a favor and go skydiving with a handkerchief parachute


  107. EugeneDebs says:

    LTdan Says:

    Stupid, shameless and disgusting is no way to go through life so save yourself and STOP being stupid shameless and disgusting you moron


  108. ElBruce says:

    Anonymouse Says:

    They’re out of ideas and out of power.

    All they have is their unified resistance.

    Yep, when in doubt, put on those jackboots and show ‘em how well you can goosestep in lockstep. Shoulda had the House Republicans march in the Congressional parade, they do it with such perfect precision.

    .

    nanlichi Says:

    Obama is the most intelligent person we have ever had in the office…

    I’m a pretty big fan of Jefferson. But you do have to go back about that far.


  109. ElBruce says:

    Just for the helluvit, I’m going to compose and post this on behalf of LTDan. It seems he’s too busy to do more than put up 5 words at a time…

    Government spending ultimately amounts to handouts, no matter what it’s for.

    When people get what they want from the government, there’s no incentive to go out and work. And it’s individual effort that has made America great throughout the 20th Century. The spirit of entrepeneurship creates new markets and drives efficiencies. Most of what we take for granted today has been created by people seizing opportunities through cleverness and hard work. If we had been a socialist state this entire time, the efficiency and wide variety of technologies and comforts that we enjoy simply wouldn’t exist, and our standard of living suffers as a result.

    Taking money out of that dynamic, vibrant, free economy and giving it to politicians of all people to spend all but guarantees that it will be spent less intelligently than the mass of self-interested individuals each working in their own interest. Therefore, to the degree that you tax, you slow down economic growth and progress.

    To have such a huge government spending program at this time when we most need America’s economy to be unfettered so it can get itself out of this mess is, as I put it above, disgusting. And that’s what I mean when I say “government is not the answer.” The answer is us.

    Is that something along the lines of what you were thinking, LTDan?


  110. shoeless says:

    hussein toasterhead Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    LTdan Says:

    GOVERNMENT is not the anwser.
    _____________

    To what question?

    Oh, this is like negative Jeopardy. OK, I’ll play.

    The question is, “What type of jobs should be performed by anti-government Republicans?”


  111. christopher wiwi says:

    Geez, when Clinton raised our taxes the economy shot up pretty good.Lowering taxes does not do what giving more food stamps or even raising unemployment bene`s does in terms of a monetary return,this is what all non-partisan economist say as opposed to the Reich that say`s otherwise but we know from the past that tax cuts do not F%#@^ing work!Boo Hoo to the school yard bully`s from the Reich.


  112. nanlichi says:

    Forgive my hyperbole El Bruce, and I will forgive you for stringing the words thinking and LTDan in the same sentence.


  113. Art says:

    Here Republicans. Take some more rope.
    Take all you want.
    You almost have enough.


  114. EugeneDebs says:

    ElBruce Says:

    LunaTicDan isnt busy, he is a coward. He knows he is too stupid to engage in actual discourse so he does the hit and run troll thing. Its the best someone as stupid as he is can manage


  115. lm945 says:

    President Obama (I still love saying that, “President Obama”) is playing it just right.

    Start out going bi-partisan. Heavily, blatantly, publicly bi-partisan. Republicans refuse to cooperate.

    This will come back to bite the GOP in the a$$.


  116. tombaker says:

    Fine Jim – pack your bags and head on home for the next few years. Don’t want you, don’t need you, and don’t care what you have to say about anything.

    Oh, and take all your R buddies with you – if they’re not going to work we don’t need them there taking up space and making all the floors slippery with tears (and stuff).


  117. ElBruce says:

    lm945 Says:

    This will come back to bite the GOP in the a$$.

    And here we go!


  118. curious says:

    I doubt very much that Obama really thought cooperation would be forth coming from the Republicans. Certainly none of us out here thought so. But he did have to try. And he will probably continue to try, because this is how he operates.

    Having tried and failed this will point out as time goes on, just who the ones that continue to obstruct. These Republicans are anti-American and nothing less. They spent eight years saying yes to everything that Bush wanted. Now they are making demands as if all of this is new to them. That they were innocent bystanders. Like Limbaugh, they would rather see the country go under then to see a black, Democrat make a success of his Presidency. They understand that the chances of a Republican getting the White House any time soon, is unlikely. And to clean up the mess they left us in, and to have Obama clean it up, means it could be a couple of decades without getting re-elected.

    The Republican party is in shambles. They never had any intention of cooperating with Obama. And all the reaching out, all the dinners etc. will make no difference. Even John MCCain has begun. All this party seems to be counting on in the future is Sara Palin and Romney.

    And these Senators that continue to obstruct need to be aware that they will face re-election one day. That might not be too easy. What they count on most, is the short memory of their constituents.


  119. dbearton says:

    It is time to put some of these RepubliCon traitors and war criminals in prison. Some are complicit before and some are complicit after the fact. Just because they are senators and congressmen does not shield them from their treason and war crimes. A long list of charges can be drawn up against the RepubliCons.


  120. TonyC says:

    G.O.P.

    Grand
    Obstructionist
    Party


  121. ralph the wonder llama says:

    EugeneDebs Says:

    LunaTicDan isnt busy, he is a coward. He knows he is too stupid to engage in actual discourse so he does the hit and run troll thing.

    I might believe that if I had ever seen any evidence that trolls were at all affected by the exposure of their stupidity.

    In my observation, demonstrating their stupidity just makes them keep on trudging through the mud.


  122. christopher wiwi says:

    “The government is being forced into the role of borrower of last resort because the economic mismanagement of recent years has left so much of our private sector in such tatters that the rest of the private sector will not extend the credit necessary for the economy to function”.It is such a shame we find ourselves in this position again as in 1929 and the same shtick from the GOOPERS.


  123. EugeneDebs says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Good point. They do seem inordinatly proud of their stupidity


  124. Robt says:

    I swear, (R) Eric Cantor is the little kid in the Eggo waffle comercial. Where the little tyke says, ” let-go-of-my-eggo”.


  125. Musk says:

    LOL . . . “stay the course” Republicans. My God .. . these people are incapable of grasping anything!




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