Card: Obama has brought a ‘locker room experience’ to the WH with his informal dress code.
Card: Obama has brought a ‘locker room experience’ to the WH with his informal dress code.
On Thursday, the New York Times’ Sheryl Gay Stolberg wrote about how President Obama had brought “a more informal culture” to the White House, noting that he had already abandoned “an ironclad rule of the George W. Bush administration” that required a “coat and tie in the Oval Office at all times.” Later that day, former Bush White House chief of staff Andrew Card told conservative talker Michael Medved that he felt the new dress code showed a lack of “respect” for the Office of the Presidency:
CARD: I found that Ronald Reagan and both President Bushes treated the Oval Office with tremendous respect. They treated the Office of the Presidency with tremendous respect. And some of that respect was reflected in how they expected people to behave, how they expected them to dress when they walked into the symbol of freedom for the world, the Oval Office. And yes, I’m disappointed to see the casual, laissez faire, short sleeves, no shirt and tie, no jacket, kind of locker room experience that seems to be taking place in this White House and the Oval Office.
Listen here:
Transcript:
MEDVED: There is a new order in the White House. There is a couple of columns today. One column by Karl Rove, your former associate in the most recent Bush White House. And the other column, it’s a piece in the New York Times by Sheryl Stolberg. She talks about the new era of informality that Barack Obama has introduced into the White House. He’s working there late at night. He comes in relatively late, two hours later than President Bush used to come in at his desk. And he’s dropped this rule that everybody has to wear jacket and tie in the Oval Office. Now, you worked in the Oval Office for years and years.CARD: I started working at the White House with President Reagan and then I was deputy chief of staff to former President Bush and then chief of staff to former President George W. Bush.
MEDVED: And all those three presidents had…
CARD: And yes, I found that Ronald Reagan and both President Bushes treated the Oval Office with tremendous respect. They treated the Office of the Presidency with tremendous respect. And some of that respect was reflected in how they expected people to behave, how they expected them to dress when they walked into the symbol of freedom for the world, the Oval Office. And yes, I’m disappointed to see the casual, laissez faire, short sleeves, no shirt and tie, no jacket, kind of locker room experience that seems to be taking place in this White House and the Oval Office.
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Card has a lot of damn gall after what the Bush/Cheney administration has done to this country.
January 31st, 2009 at 9:38 amIsn’t this the guy that had pictures of GWB’s hands all over his office?
Creepy.
January 31st, 2009 at 9:38 amLet’s see – the Republicans have no good ideas for fixing the problems we have, so they instead fabricate new non-issues upon which to waste our time, and stir their base into a whirling dervish sort of frenzy over nothing, which will once again distract the media from reporting on pertinent and valid issues.
Great…
January 31st, 2009 at 9:39 amJeff Gannon knows about White House locker room experiences. That’s when Karl Rove learned how to bend over or forward….
Losers.
-GSD
January 31st, 2009 at 9:39 amThe funniest part about his comment was stating that Reagan and both Bushes treated the Oval Office with tremendous “respect”. Too bad they cared more about respecting the dress code than actual office of the President.
January 31st, 2009 at 9:41 amSadly, I agree with him that there should be a higher standard in the dress code. No one wants to talk about National Security with some moron in sweat pants.
Hey Andy, release your and Fran Townsend’s e-mails on Hurricane Katrina. Fran’s locker room Lessons Learned report showed tremendous disrespect for hospital and nursing home patients who perished, due to your and George W.’s foot dragging.
Pony up, Card!
January 31st, 2009 at 9:41 amAre those man boobs?
January 31st, 2009 at 9:44 amRight wingers are such a bunch big friggin whiny babies. When Dems are in control, they will complain about EVERYTHING! For goodness sake …
January 31st, 2009 at 9:48 amToo bad those repigs didn’t have as much respect for the Constitution After all those years of wiping their a$$es with it while wearing a coat and tie. This is part and parcel with equating wearing a flag pin with patriotism
January 31st, 2009 at 9:52 amLying about a war, getting soldiers and innocent civilians killed, trampling the constitution, and making countless stupid decisions denigrates the office of president, not short sleeves.
January 31st, 2009 at 9:53 amCard’s Law: If you dress nice, the sheeple won’t ever guess you’re butt-raping them; and, if they do somehow guess, they’ll be too intimidated to complain…
January 31st, 2009 at 9:57 amjakedogman Says:
Lying about a war, getting soldiers and innocent civilians killed, trampling the constitution, and making countless stupid decisions denigrates the office of president, not short sleeves.
January 31st, 2009 at 9:53 am
Why do you hate Murka, jake-dog?
They only did those things to protect the country.
(The problem being, of course, that nobody can prove they didn’t. Which is why pursuing prosecution is a fools errand.)
January 31st, 2009 at 10:00 amOh yes, because appearances are everything, right?
January 31st, 2009 at 10:01 amNo matter that one is conniving ways to subvert the Constitution and corrupt the government – it is important that one does it wearing a suit jacket.
Personally, I don’t care if the White House becomes a NUDIST COLONY, provided the staffers within can improve our relationship with the rest of the world, help get the economy growing again, care about people who can’t afford medical care, respect our environment, and do what’s best for our country.
Methinks Card has his priorities screwed up.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:03 amLet’s see, this respectful Republican administration was the one where the President flipped off reporters? Used profanity as if it was the English language? Gave everyone stupid and often vulgar nicknames?
I think respect in in your actions, not your clothing.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:03 am… and looks can be deceiving…
January 31st, 2009 at 10:08 amIn every picture I’ve seen so far of Obama and his staff at work in the White House, I’ve seen them with ties on (but often not jackets).
They are dressed far better than Card is in the picture you have of him here.
BTW — I once served in the U.S. Navy. Back in my day, one had to wear dress uniform if one worked in an office (Yeomen, Personnelmen, etc.). Still, office workers were permitted to remove their jackets indoors.
And now, work uniforms are the norm anywhere on base or aboard ship. Soldiers in the army even wear their camos instead of Class A uniforms when they travel. Does this show a lack of respect for our military? Not in my book. So why is it different in the White House?
January 31st, 2009 at 10:10 amI guess it goes back to the old argument form vs content. Wearing a coat and tie makes the criminal…palpable. And the incompetent look uh, otherwise.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:10 amIf we are talking about appearances, all in all, I would rather have my President taking off his coat once in awhile in his office than going out in public and manhandling German Chancellors or this:
Republicans: big on symbols/appearances of greatness, small on the work that needs to be done to achieve it.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:10 amI could give a damn if they work in jockey shorts and neckties as long as they don’t screw things up as bad as the thugs of the Bush and Reagan Crime Family. All that is wrong with tis nation today is the result of the thugs with the name Reagan or Bush who have been in the White House twenty of the past twenty eight years. Screw Andy Card and the horse he rode in on. He should STFU like all the failures with (R) after their names.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:11 ambadges, we don’t need no stinking badges..
January 31st, 2009 at 10:14 amNo coats? …right.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:14 amSo Obama’s informal attitude shows disrespect for the office of the President? To bad respect for the office of the President didn’t translate into respect for the rule of law and the lives of millions of ordinary Americans. Bush and Card and their ilk have wrecked this country. Clothes don’t mean competency.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:14 amuptighty righties, still trying to run the show even though they almost burned the theater down.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:16 amIsn’t Card the idiot who lost the diskette that contained the Iraq Invasion plans on the National Mall? What a maroon.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:16 amWas little Georgie wearing his suit and tie when he wiped his ass on the U.S. Constitution?
January 31st, 2009 at 10:17 amJust because George Bush had to wear the corpoarte line of “Guranimals” it doesn’t other adults aren’t capable of dressing on their own.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:18 amthat should read “it doesn’t mean..”
January 31st, 2009 at 10:19 amun – ffin- believable
the bushies show no respect for the constitution, the rule of law, or even the most basic human rights
and suit coats are what they are worried about?
With the bushies it is all about trying to portray an image and then abusing power as much as they can.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:27 amIt’s comforting to know that the Bush Administration trashed our country “with the utmost respect” while wearing business suits and ties. Personally I think the ties are the problem. They cut off circulation to your brain.
I don’t care if they wear their pajamas in the White House, as long as they are doing the work for “we the people”.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:27 amSo I get up on a Saturday morning and go to the computer. Still kinda fuzzy headed and not quite awake. And what’s one of the very first comments i happen to read in this state?
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dbadass Says:
Are those man boobs?
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Thanks A LOT, dbasdass… just what I needed in my brain whilst I’m still waking up.
Now, that thought’s gonna be stuck in there… all… day… long.
Yes, they are.
I gotta go retch into the toilet for a while now.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:28 amLiberalVoter Says:
Card has a lot of damn gall after what the Bush/Cheney administration has done to this country.
But..but… they were well dressed while they were doing it. That should count for something.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:28 amIt takes a lot of nerve and stupidity for any Republican to remark on the casualness of Obama’s administration style. The last group living there had NO RESPECT at all, for the office!
January 31st, 2009 at 10:31 amCroaker Says:
Sadly, I agree with him that there should be a higher standard in the dress code. No one wants to talk about National Security with some moron in sweat pants.
First of all, wearing sweat pants does not a moron make and second, aren’t you taking a large leap here assuming that Obama’s staff comes to work in the Oval office in sweats? What he is complaining about is that people don’t have to wear suit coats in the oval office. I also suspect that Obama may make ties optional. And that would be a good thing. Ever try to work hard and fast with a tie strangling you?
January 31st, 2009 at 10:32 amRepubs still don’t get it. Dressing in a suit coat and tie and being dishonest is still being dishonest.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:35 am(Sorry to re-use this link, but this article cries out for it.)
I wonder if Andy Card thinks this shows respect for the office of the presidency:
He loves to cuss, gets a jolly when a mountain biker wipes out trying to keep up with him, and now we’re learning that the first frat boy loves flatulence jokes. A top insider let that slip when explaining why President Bush is paranoid around women, always worried about his behavior. But he’s still a funny, earthy guy who, for example, can’t get enough of fart jokes. He’s also known to cut a few for laughs, especially when greeting new young aides, but forget about getting people to gas about that.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:37 amAnd yes, dbadass, I believe those are man-boobs.
Sorry, TRoS.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:38 amdbadass Says:
Are those man boobs?
yea… thanks for pointing that out…
seems to be a bit chilly also…
what blinded MY eyes was the sight of those pearly whites…
and i can’t see his teeth…
jeez, get some sun on those legs before showing them ANYwhere…
January 31st, 2009 at 10:39 am“…short sleeves, no shirt and tie, no jacket,…”
How does this translate into a locker room experience unless one is fixated on men’s locker rooms?
Hey Andy, are those A cups?
January 31st, 2009 at 10:39 amI found that the same cabel treated America as if it were their own personal toy set and didn’t mind if it got destroyed while they were playing with it.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:41 amOf course all three flushed the country down the toilet, but they dressed nice.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:41 amHey Andy:
You can dress a retard in a tuxedo. But you still have a retard.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:42 amI forget — was Bush dressed nice when he was caught on videotape chewing with his mouth open?
I sure hope so. ‘Cause otherwise, that could show some disrespect for the office of the presidency.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:47 amThe last time I looked, Bernie Madoff was wearing a suit coat too.
¶ AIO
January 31st, 2009 at 10:48 amMorning ralph. You will find some slightly amusing zaniness downstairs
January 31st, 2009 at 10:48 amdbadass Says:
Are those man boobs?
Moobs! Huge Hewitt, too.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:49 ami pity Card, being so easily duped by a dress code. 43 had ZERO respect for the office of the presidency. the most important job of the president is to protect the constitution which 43 shat all over for eight years.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:50 amlaissez faire isn`t that what the REICH Wing is all about,when it comes to capitalism and trade agreements that have ruined this country.PHUCK OFF you piece of $hit re-puke and put a TAN on those legs so you can be like BONER and company.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:53 amIt`s really amazing how you reich Wingers whine about every thing since Obama WON.You guys really do HATE AMERICA don`t you.
Yes, there can be no doubt that the best way to show respect for this great symbol of freedom is to restrict the freedoms of the people who get to walk in there.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:00 amCard’s comments along with all the fuss and feathers over whether you wear a coat and tie, are proof positive that you can dress up the clowns and idiots, but their still only clowns and idiots.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:01 amIt is all about the show for the Repukes.
Look good.
Pretend to be compassionate.
Act like you are bummed about the innocent lives lost in Iraq.
You feel for those suffering from lack of jobs….etc…….
BULLSHIT…………….
January 31st, 2009 at 11:05 amHow convenient that he ignores the photo of a group in the Oval Office in which George Tenet is without a jacket. Chances are good it wasn’t the only instance.
As I understand it, there remains a dress code–business casual, which hardly is sweat pants. And as others have said, I don’t care if they’re nude if they’re getting work done and showing respect to people and laws rather than only a room.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:06 amAs usual, with the Bush administration its all about putting on pretenses, and then doing whatever you want behind the scenes (policy-wise).
I’d rather have someone in the office who takes both POLICY and HONESTY seriously.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:09 amdbadass Says:
Are those man boobs?
Officially, those would be known as “saggers”.
Definitely a candidate for the Manzier or Bro.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:18 amIt truly is all about appearances with repukeliscums. Case and point- the election of Steele to head the RNC. If they were allowed their druthers and the “obama the magic negro” dude didn’t go national with his holiday antics, you know he would have been the new RNC leader
January 31st, 2009 at 11:20 amTHAT’S what Card whispered into Boosh’s ear at Booker Elementary!
“Mr. President. Thank God you’re wearing a tie and a jacket, sir.”
January 31st, 2009 at 11:22 amShut up and count the money you stole from us, asswipe.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:22 amIt’s comforting to know the imbeciles in the Bush Administration were always dressed in their Sunday best as they drove the country off a cliff.
http://jackrabbitcafe.blogspot.com
January 31st, 2009 at 11:22 amdon’t worry Andy….you’ll be fitted with a casual orange jumpsuit soon enough
January 31st, 2009 at 11:26 amJust a little example of cards objectivity…….they can’t even talk among themselves without dropping the ball…..funny but not very respectful of the office of President of the US.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:29 am
Bush Era – Pompous, phony, and Corrupt
Obama Era – Honest, pragmatic, and Productive
Andrew Card will be in a jumpsuit one of these days for his role in aiding and abetting the lies and crimes of the Bush Administration.
Glad that he hasn’t left the country yet and is bloviating like a dough-boy blowfish. Won’t be hard to subpoena him.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:32 amrastaman: Great minds think alike? I think the orange jumpsuit will only highlight the “yellow” of his pasty skin, don’t you?
January 31st, 2009 at 11:33 amActually, Card will be one of the first subpoenaed by the Hague because he effectively sold Bush’s lies to the american people – willingly and knowingly.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:34 amMaybe they can create a formal jumpsuit for pitiful Andy? Make it XXXL on the bottom with a chesterfield collar in white at the top.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:35 amWhat Andy is leaving out is that everyone in the Bush administration HAD to wear a jacket because it covered their bullet-proof vests.
They’re all marked men (and women) now.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:36 amWait. Did they also remove the “w”s from all keyboards, and download pornography?
January 31st, 2009 at 11:37 amI mean, we’ve got a battle over a stimulus package, our country is in a recession, tens of thousands are losing their jobs every day, many are not able to afford health care, people are freezing to death in their own homes, others are committing murder/suicide because of the harsh economic times….
And we’re supposed to worry about how the “informal” dress code disrespects the highest office in our country???
Ummmmm BITE ME you mucking foron!
First rule for con artists and grifters: Have a good front. If a mark thinks you are respectable because you look respectable they are more likely to buy the rest of the tale.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:38 amCARD: I found that Ronald Reagan and both President Bushes treated the Oval Office with tremendous respect. And all three, with Shrub being the most egregious example, treated the American people with either utter contempt or careless indifference.
They treated the Office of the Presidency with tremendous respect. And some of that respect was reflected in how they expected people to behave, how they expected them to dress when they walked into the symbol of freedom for the world, the Oval Office. They treated the country that elected them–or from which they bought the elections–as a personal fief, with emphasis on appearance overall, and NO emphasis on reality overall.
And yes, I’m disappointed to see the casual, laissez faire, short sleeves, no shirt and tie, no jacket, kind of locker room experience that seems to be taking place in this White House and the Oval Office. Card needs to look up the definition of “laissez faire” before he attempts to offer gratuitous criticism–what he offers is gratuitous contempt. “Laissez faire” means “let it be” or “let it do what it’s been doing.” And that’s exactly what those above-named presidents did: “let alone” the policies which favored the rich and/or the Repugs, and “let it do what it’s been doing” ["it" being, among other things, a weakening economy, erosion of civil rights, cutting of social programs, a weakening of worker protection, drastic cuts in spending for health and welfare, evisceration of the EPA] so long as what “it” was doing did not affect the oligarchs.
You’re a card, all right, Card: the joker.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:38 amAnd Dog forbid they get any of that ‘locker room’ mentality. Next thing you know they might put teamwork back in the WH lexicon. Shudder
January 31st, 2009 at 11:40 amIn relation to this thread and the previous one , I still maintain that less is more .
January 31st, 2009 at 11:42 amWWWwwhhhaaaaa……..Go away fool, you bother me…!!
January 31st, 2009 at 11:43 ambush had respect for the office but not the constitution. obama can wear whatever he wants…as long as he and his staff respect the constitution!
January 31st, 2009 at 11:45 amBrady Bonk Says:
THAT’S what Card whispered into Boosh’s ear at Booker Elementary!
“Mr. President. Thank God you’re wearing a tie and a jacket, sir.”
I have every intention of forcing my colleagues to read the article and your response later today when I continue to guffaw maniacally for no apparent reason! Laughter is, indeed, “the best medicine.” THANKS!
January 31st, 2009 at 11:46 amWhat “locker room experience”? The White House staff is running around in Reebok’s, gym shorts and muscle T-shirts? Is the new administration engaging in censorship of photos out of the Oval Office? Spoiled little teeny boppers are less petulant than the Republican losers.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:50 amForgot to add: owing to Obama’s Hawaiian upbringing I think Aloha shirts and rubber flip flops would be quite apropos. At least it would make them seem human.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:54 amCARD: And yes, I found that Ronald Reagan and both President Bushes treated the Oval Office with tremendous respect.
Except for selling weapons to America’s terrorist enemies, and then lying about it on television to the American people – from the Oval Office.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:55 amwindsor Says:
Zero can wear anything he wants in the oval office, just so he keeps his cigar in the wrapper, if you know what I mean.
No. What do you mean?
January 31st, 2009 at 11:55 amWhy is this man still infesting our airwaves?
January 31st, 2009 at 11:56 amDamn winsore thats some free thinking your exhibiting there . Aren’t you afraid of being labeled anti American ?
January 31st, 2009 at 11:57 amWindsor doesn’t like blowjobs. It is weird. I can’t think of anyone else who doesn’t. How truely odd windsor must be
January 31st, 2009 at 11:58 amDB lets hope Obama doesn’t like them overly much either or we’ll be spending the next 4 years hearing about them in special hearings on c span .
January 31st, 2009 at 12:01 pmIn the photo above Card looks like one of those creepy neighbors you warn your children about.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:01 pmGee, windsore, for a moment there I thought this was a posting about the lack of display of respect for the office of the President (usually includes the person ‘in’ the office.
Didn’t you get the memo?
January 31st, 2009 at 12:01 pmcard should watch his ass. he is directly responsible for many if not all of the bad things that happened during the bush years. i would not be surprised if somebody who lost a relative in iraq or afghanistan took it out on the side of his head. as far as i can tell. its called justice.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:06 pmWhat if they just wear a flag pin on their sweat pants?
January 31st, 2009 at 12:09 pmOh and while we’re on the subject of monkey suits , may I suggest that John Thain wears his while testifying .
January 31st, 2009 at 12:12 pmFrom democracy now Jan 28
Ex-Merrill Lynch CEO Subpoenaed in Bonuses Probe
Here in New York, former Merrill Lynch CEO John Thain has been subpoenaed as part of a state probe into executive bonuses at firms that have received bailout money. Thain resigned this week following the disclosure he handed out $4 billion in bonuses a month ahead of schedule. The bonuses were approved just three days after shareholders OKed Merrill Lynch’s merger with Bank of America. Bank of America was given billions in additional bailout money for the takeover.
Speaking of the failed president Jorge Booosh, I think since the shoe throwing incident that he’s been sh*tting his pants a lot lately. The thought of going to prison for war crimes haunts him in his dreams, which is why his lawyers are still claiming executive privilege and telling Rove and others not to talk to congress.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:12 pmOT: Iraq election hailed as ‘great success’
No reports of major violence as 14,000 candidates fight for 440 seats
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28931928/
January 31st, 2009 at 12:13 pmJust saw this headline from the CNN newsticker: Obama’s brother arrested for marijuana in Kenya. Wait for the the reich wing feeding frenzy on this story.
By the way doesn’t it seem like the ‘liberal’ media is working overtime trying to help destroy the Obama presidency?
January 31st, 2009 at 12:17 pmWell Andy, you little Cheney-wipe, your president had a laissez faire attitude about the nation’s economy, about our image on the world stage and about everything other than lining his pockets and the pockets of all the Repigs who supported him.
If the “Price” we have to pay for having an adult in charge of the White House again is him walking around in shirt sleeves in the Oval Office, then I’m willing to pay that price. You jerk.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:20 pmI expect it’s a lot better than the Bush administration locker room experience. The wedgies were probably getting real painful.
I know mine was…
January 31st, 2009 at 12:21 pmHey crissy, how many sunnies on the ballot?
January 31st, 2009 at 12:21 pmIf the picture is any indication of what Card considers locker room attire, I could almost agree with him. All he’s missing is a paper bag with a muscatel bottle in it.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:25 pmDrop Dead Fred:
From CNN
More than 14,400 candidates from more than 400 political entities were registered and approved, and 15 million Iraqis registered to vote. Each voter emerged with one finger dipped in purple ink as proof of voting.
Those elected will have regional power over the essentials Iraqis have been desperate for — basic services and jobs.
There was a sense of jubilation Saturday in Anbar province, the Sunni heartland west of Baghdad, reported CNN’s Arwa Damon, who was touring polling places with United Nations observers.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/31/iraq.elections/index.html
January 31st, 2009 at 12:25 pmI don’t think so crissy:
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/election/2004/0318sunnipolitics.htm
January 31st, 2009 at 12:33 pm
MysteriousTraveller Says:
Isn’t this the guy that had pictures of GWB’s hands all over his office?
no… i think that was josh bolten…
still creepy.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:35 pmbesides crissy, Iraq is now a closer ally of Iran than it is of the US. How is that a good thing?
January 31st, 2009 at 12:36 pmThat keeping you priorities straight. You can be a lying, corrupt, incompetent boob. But, as long as you’re wearing a coat and tie, it’s all good.
Do these guys understand that THEY TOTALLY F UCKED UP OUR COUNTRY!
January 31st, 2009 at 12:37 pmThese neocons are the nerds who got stuffed into a locker in jr. high school and decided to vent by taking over the world and killing lots of defenseless brown people.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:39 pmI’ve noticed that people who complain about “lack of respect” usually don’t deserve it.
Bush may have respected the things and ideas like the rug in his office, but he didn’t respect his fellow human beings.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:40 pmMy god! Are you demented wingnuts going to spend the next eight years obsessing over President Obama’s cock?
January 31st, 2009 at 12:43 pm“…I’m disappointed to see the casual, laissez faire,…. kind of locker room experience”
What? A Republican who doesn’t like Laissez faire?
Such hypocrisy.
If any one showed disrespect for the office of Presidency, it was W Bush. He shamed the office ever since he stole it.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:46 pmI’ll take casual dress over greed and corruption in my white house any day. Step away Mr. Card, your opinion isn’t necessary.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:48 pmTechnodaoist Says:
I’ve noticed that people who complain about “lack of respect” usually don’t deserve it.
And are the last to give it.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:48 pmAmazing to read the trash from wingers after the total losers they have put into office the past thirty years. Clinton could do more while having sex than the retard we had the last eight years could do on his best day. Wingers are the reason this economy is in the shape it is in and they should realize that 78% of the citizens know how stupid wingers are. That makes them a minority. They lost!
January 31st, 2009 at 12:49 pmYeah, but they wear ties.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:50 pmShoeless says (about windsor’s cigar comment):
Oh now, please… if you look at #93, you’ll see how clever windsor was by calling us children because some thought his cigar comment was about a phallus.
Oh yes, Freud said sometimes a cigar is just a cigar… but that fattie in Rush’s mouth is him living out a fantasy… if you know what I mean.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:53 pm“They treated the Office of the Presidency with tremendous respect” as they sat in it committing War Crimes? Really?
January 31st, 2009 at 12:53 pmThe policy for wearing ties in the Bush White House was a safety ruling.
It provided an easy tourniquet to stem blood supply to the brain in the unlikely event someone had an idea.
January 31st, 2009 at 12:53 pmdont forget, Bernie Madoff was a nice dresser.
this shows one that all Card cared about was form, not substance and this principle lied at the heart of the banking crisis.
January 31st, 2009 at 1:05 pmWhy are we listening to these morons again ?…the only thing they should be doing is testifying before a congressional committee investigating them for treason…other than that one would think they’d be laying pretty low after breaking so many laws.. oh, and screwing up every single thing the touched!
January 31st, 2009 at 1:05 pmGeorge Bush operated on the “Fake it until you make it” philosophy. He was just playing dress up, Martin Sheen is always in a jacket, right?
January 31st, 2009 at 1:06 pmWasn’t this the same Andrew Card who whispered in W’s ear on September 11, 2001 that the second World Trade Center tower had been struck and that the United States was under attack?
You mean the Ronald Reagan/George H. W. Bush who saddled the citizens of this country with a tripling of public debt, the Iran-Contra affair, and the savings and loan crisis? And George W. Bush, who swore to uphold the Constitution, and, according to a December 5, 2005 article in Capitol Hill Blue, was quoted as screaming to an aide, “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face. It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
Apparently, in Card’s world, defecating upon the Constitution is just fine, provided that you are wearing a coat and tie while doing it.
Why aren’t we surprised?
January 31st, 2009 at 1:06 pmShoeless, have you ever met a Repug who didn’t obsess about anything even vaguely sexual?
January 31st, 2009 at 1:06 pmThe underlying goal of the Republicans, as stated by the duly annointed Supreme Commander of the Republican Party —
“Roosevelt is dead. His policies may live on but we’re in the process of doing something about that as well.” — Rush Limbaugh
January 31st, 2009 at 1:19 pmWhat a hypocrite! We’ve heard about Bush’s fart jokes and other sophomoric behavior in the White House. That’s stuff that no amount of ties and jackets can outweigh.
January 31st, 2009 at 1:24 pmYes, all is well as long as one wears the uniform of the “haves and have mores” in the Oval Office.
For a twenty-second refresher on the topic, please go to:
January 31st, 2009 at 1:31 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn4daYJzyls
windsor Says:
Zero can wear anything he wants in the oval office, just so he keeps his cigar in the wrapper, if you know what I mean.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:54 am
I can’t believe that you tried to defend this remark by saying you weren’t insinuating what you were clearly insinuating. Hint: it’s the “if you know what I mean” that gives it away. It means you didn’t mean it literally.
You, sir, are an idiot.
January 31st, 2009 at 1:42 pmWhen I first saw that pic of Obama on his first day at his new desk, with a shirt and tie but no jacket, my first impression was of a man getting down to business!
Nothing wrong with taking off your jacket and rolling up your sleeves if you’re getting ready to make things happen.
January 31st, 2009 at 1:42 pmIn a previous life I used to have salesmen call on me, peddling their wares. When one walked in wearing a suit I had two immediate thoughts.
This clown makes too much money. And its obvious he isn’t here to get his hands dirty.
The idea that a suit = respect is totally bogus. Farmers, factory workers, truck drivers and all sorts of folks who work hard don’t wear suits. Does this mean they are not deserving of respect?
Clothes don’t make the person, the person does. We need to tell the ad industry to STFU.
January 31st, 2009 at 1:42 pmAnd George W. Bush, who swore to uphold the Constitution, and, according to a December 5, 2005 article in Capitol Hill Blue, was quoted as screaming to an aide, “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face. It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
That, in and of itself, was an impeachable offense. Congress should have impeached him and made him publicly explain exactly what he meant by that comment. I really don’t see how he could defend it and still maintain that he intended to support and defend the constitution. And since this was reported in 2005, it means that it had already been publicly reported when Speaker Pelosi took over and declared that impeachment was off the table.
Could one of Representatve Pelosi’s constituents please ask her to explain that contradiction? She won’t answer any of the rest of us, even when we write to her Speaker’s office.
January 31st, 2009 at 1:47 pm“Reagan is dead. His policies may live on but we’re in the process of doing something about that as well.” — Rush Limbaugh
There. Fixed it for ya, Rush.
January 31st, 2009 at 1:48 pmWhen a conservative’s head explodes and they’re all alone, does it make any noise? They raped America yet they worry how they looked! Guess what get used to it! Grown ups are now in charge! Is it me or are conservative’s the biggest whiners?
January 31st, 2009 at 1:48 pmCard: Obama has brought a ‘locker room experience’ to the WH with his informal dress code.»
I have said it before… it is all about ones appearance to these hate America party first freaks.
January 31st, 2009 at 1:48 pmGeorge W. Bush is so weak, he has to wrap his inadequacy in a suit coat and tie. Naturally, he would assume everyone around him needed to so the same.
And he was probably right…
January 31st, 2009 at 1:53 pmFor Republicans, there is nothing but IMAGE. Only the image of people looking serious, or willing to follow the rules counts, because it is used to cover up their otherwise transgressive behavior. Even Steele, new RNC chair, declares that Republicans only have an “image problem” — one that putting his face over the party will solve. That’s why I get irritated when MSM talks about Obama trying to appear as if he breaking with Bush policies. He is breaking with the policies. But for the Republicans, as for the media who love them for it, IMAGE is all.
January 31st, 2009 at 1:55 pmI prefer a leader that does not have to hide behind fine clothing, titles/degrees and confusing over the top language skills. It has been my experience that those that do are empty suits.
January 31st, 2009 at 1:57 pmIt seems to me that this critique of the dress code is more than just a petty one coming from one of the chief incompetents of the happily FORMER WH staff–Card has tipped his hand (sorry about the pun)–the GOP is an elitist organization. To think that they should suggest that an administration that is NOT THEIR POLITICAL PARTY is not, somehow, as professional and competent as they were because of a less buttoned-down work attire is a way of trying to get the public to disapprove of the administration for not wearing the conventional attire of the class of people who absolutely demolished our economy, our standing in the world, and who did so much to destroy the lives of Americans who don’t have jobs now because of what the neocons’ policy did to serve the interests of the corporatists.
That’s right–the Obama administration is supposed to adopt a dress code that would make them visually indistinguishable from the criminals who screwed us.
Perhaps there would be a point if President Obama was in the same shape as Card in the picture that accompanies this article, but he’s not.
I’m quite certain that conventional attire will be worn for certain ceremonial occasions, but not convinced that civilization is going down the tubes because the WH staff isn’t adhering to the same dress code as the former administration.
As has been the case for the past 28 years or so, the GOP focuses on non-issues, hoping for traction. They are currently bereft of talking points.
January 31st, 2009 at 1:57 pmIt has been my experience when a person wearing a suit tells you it is a good and necessary thing, check your wallet. Sort of like the undertaker who tells you it will cost $6,000 to bury Granny so she is comfortable.
January 31st, 2009 at 2:00 pm“He’s not like anybody I’ve ever met. He’s like a riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a vest.”
January 31st, 2009 at 2:03 pmMy apologies for borrowing Jeff’s schtick but:
If you think wearing a suit that costs more than many Americans pay for a month’s rent makes you respectable…you might be a Republican.
January 31st, 2009 at 2:03 pmHoodathunk Says:
It has been my experience when a person wearing a suit tells you it is a good and necessary thing, check your wallet. Sort of like the undertaker who tells you it will cost $6,000 to bury Granny so she is comfortable.
January 31st, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Or make sure she has a great view. :-D
January 31st, 2009 at 2:10 pmfrik’n elistists!
January 31st, 2009 at 2:10 pmfrik’n elitists! (as if I could spell)
January 31st, 2009 at 2:11 pmThe New GOP – Style over substance to the bitter end.
PEACE
January 31st, 2009 at 2:11 pmOT, Our Presidents HALF Brother was arrested for a SINGLE joint! Are you kidding me? 1 friggen marijuana cigarette!
Ooooh how criminal.
NOT
January 31st, 2009 at 2:12 pmAndrew Card has anyone bothered to tell you that you are irrelevant now a days?
January 31st, 2009 at 2:19 pmHey Andy, here’s a picture of bush falling down drunk at the olympics……how can Obama disgrace the Presidency worse than that?
http://wonkette.com/401833/was-bush-falling-down-drunk-at-olympics
January 31st, 2009 at 2:20 pmIt’s President Obama’s choice. Deal with it you hypocritical failed, loser, repug.
Yeah the suit and tie came in handy when you watched chimpy freeze after you whispered sweet nothings in the idiot’s ear while the US was under attack.
January 31st, 2009 at 2:23 pmEight years repugs had a go at it and failed. Now they have the answers they didn’t have during chimpy’s terms. GTFOOH!
January 31st, 2009 at 2:24 pmIf they gave the office the same respect they gave the Constitution, Obama would be replacing a shit-stained rug.
January 31st, 2009 at 2:32 pmWhat if someone had critical information that has to be delivered to the Oval Office right now but they weren’t wearing the right clothes? Would the President have to wait until they could go change before getting said critical information? Oh wait, this was the Bush White House we’re talking about, of course.
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Croaker Says:
No one wants to talk about National Security with some moron in sweat pants.
How about a brilliant expert in sweat pants? All I care about is if they get the damn job done.
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Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
What he is complaining about is that people don’t have to wear suit coats in the oval office.
Which makes sense, given that he cranked up all the heaters. Guy’s from Hawaii.
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erjeroco Says:
What “locker room experience”?
That’s the name of a gay porn vid Card has in his secret closet. You know they’re obsessed with that stuff.
January 31st, 2009 at 2:34 pmThey sure DRESS nice on Wall Street, too . . . .
Besides as “fashion” Bush always looked like he was wearing a Goodwill rack pickup . . musta been the chiimp walk . . . and the spittin’ . . . oh tea . . . “gimme some respect, R-E-S-P . . .”
January 31st, 2009 at 2:35 pmSo, a suit jacket and tie were required while in the Oval Office, but a sweat-soaked blue shirt with the sleeves rolled up was acceptable for everywhere else in the country? (You can find dozens of pictures of Bush dressed like that.)
January 31st, 2009 at 2:39 pmWhat a bunch of shit-heads all these republican apologist/obstructionist are!
For crying out loud; how on this earth can anyone see a problem with the “dress code” when they didn’t find anything wrong with George ass-wipe Bush?
The good news is that a younger, more thoughtful populace jettisoned these numb-nuts in 2006 and again in 2008. Card and the republicans will have to disguise their party under another name.
Andy Card and other bogus Americans need to be put in a burlap sack and dumped at sea.
January 31st, 2009 at 2:47 pmThis story is closely related to the $180,000.00 plus that the clowns-in-charge paid to dress up the party girl from Alaska.
All Hat, No Horse
January 31st, 2009 at 2:49 pmZooey Says:
Or make sure she has a great view.
View is secondary. Do you have any idea of just who they are burying these days? Granted, most are in suits (or at least they were) but so many got them at Penneys or WalMart!
There goes the neighborhood.
January 31st, 2009 at 2:52 pmMoobs!
And flabdomen.
January 31st, 2009 at 2:57 pmThis whole idea of what is considered “proper attire” is just another bullshit way of contradicting the idea that you can’t judge a book by its cover. They think you can, and if the book “looks” good, it must “be” good.
Does this mean that a foreign head of state who did not dress in a traditional American business suit would not be allowed in the Oval Office?
January 31st, 2009 at 3:02 pmWayne,
Like this formal attire worn by Dick Cheney?
January 31st, 2009 at 3:06 pmWhat an unfamiliar sight to them! Having people actually rolling up their sleeves and working to get things done for this country.If guests are there, I’m certain that it won’t be so casual. Otherwise, fine with me…it’s SUPPOSED to be a “working” office, not one that’s just for show…like the one before.This “locker room” has done more work for this country in a week and 1/2 than the previous 8 YEARS! Whiners…
January 31st, 2009 at 3:19 pmI know what you mean Zooey. Only if chimpy had a suit and tie on when he did this.
How much better it would be.
HAHAHAHAHA
repugs are petty, obstructionist, opportunist dumbasses.
January 31st, 2009 at 3:19 pmAndrew Card told conservative talker Michael Medved that he felt the new dress code showed a lack of “respect” for the Office of the Presidency.
ACTIONS speak louder than words. By that metric, Bush has shown more disrespect to the Office of the Presidency, the Constitution and the people of the USA.
WORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.
January 31st, 2009 at 3:21 pmThe clothes one wears in the oval office has as much to do with one’s respect for the Presidency as wearing a flag pin has to do with one’s patriotism.
Typically rediculous conservative comment.
January 31st, 2009 at 3:33 pmhttp://pufferfish.typepad.com/ More thoughts on this from another observant soul! Great site….Great picture of what working looks like….
January 31st, 2009 at 3:36 pmDisgusting!
January 31st, 2009 at 3:43 pmI was hoping to find more intelligent dialogue on this site.
- disappointed
livingfree
January 31st, 2009 at 3:47 pmWhat is disgusting?
livingfree Says:
- disappointed
January 31st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
We took the high road, and have no expectations of you — so we are not disappointed.
January 31st, 2009 at 3:49 pmI am thinking it might have been those man boobs that are the what disgusted livingfree. I was more just put off by them more than disgusted. Either way to each their own
January 31st, 2009 at 3:58 pmCard could have been shirtless — that would have been disgusting. :D
January 31st, 2009 at 4:14 pmlivingfree Says:
Disgusting!
I was hoping to find more intelligent dialogue on this site.
- disappointed
January 31st, 2009 at 3:43 pm
You think there’s nothing intelligent about pointing out the hypocrisy of claiming that they should show respect for the Office by dressing a certain way, but not by adhering to the Constitution that every single one of them swore to preserve, protect and defend?
You think there’s nothing intelligent about pointing out that this very office, for which they claimed to hold such deep respect, was used to commit War Crimes?
January 31st, 2009 at 4:27 pmZooey Says:
Wayne,
Like this formal attire worn by Dick Cheney?
January 31st, 2009 at 3:06 pm
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Not fair Zooey – the v.p. wasn’t in the oval office so he really didn’t break with the ‘dress code’. Dick was supposedly representing the country at a very solemn gathering.
Thanks for digging that one up! Hypocrisy thy name is G.O.P.
“Like other attendees, the vice president was wearing a hat. But it was not a fedora or a Stetson or a fur hat or any kind of hat that one might wear to a memorial service as the representative of one’s country. Instead, it was a knit ski cap, embroidered with the words “Staff 2001.” It was the kind of hat a conventioneer might find in a goodie bag.”
January 31st, 2009 at 4:54 pmAravosis already knocked down this GOP myth – http://www.americablog.com/2009/01/so-much-for-lie-that-bush-always.html
January 31st, 2009 at 5:11 pmAndy, sincerely, fu*k you.
January 31st, 2009 at 5:11 pmshawnfassett,
Thanks for finding that pic.
TP: You really should update this post with that picture from shawnfassett’s link in current comment #174 (5:11 PM). Not just a link to it, but the picture itself. And was that the infamous “It’s a slam dunk” moment, or the meeting in which it happened?
January 31st, 2009 at 5:22 pmSometime in the eighties or nineties, the air conditioning was broken in Congress and it was sweltering. There was a confrontation over the (usually more junior) congresspersons taking off their coats. The coat-guard was adamant and they wanted to stop all business until everyone had their coats on. It was one of the more ridiculous things I’ve ever seen. Have to wonder if anyone has ever written their thesis on the psychological/emotional attachment political officials have to their coats.
But leave it to Republican to think of the “office of the President” as the room rather than the responsibilities.
January 31st, 2009 at 5:49 pmcard probably thinks President Obama is disrespecting the office by being an African-American.
January 31st, 2009 at 7:20 pmGame of Life Says:
card probably thinks President Obama is disrespecting the office by being an African-American.
January 31st, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Or a Democrat.
January 31st, 2009 at 7:53 pmWhen you tell the truth it doesn’t matter what you wear.
January 31st, 2009 at 8:53 pmThe bushcon mentality thought if they all wore the same official cloths everyday no one would pay attention to their behavior.
It worked with the press and the paid help.
Telling people like card anything simple like this leaves them searching for clues about life.Or not.
Card et al, are of the class of posers that subscribe to the axiom that ” AN OUNCE OF IMAGE IS WORTH A POUND OF PERFORMANCE”
Wasn’t the third Reich big on dress codes too?
January 31st, 2009 at 9:49 pmWhat a total schmuck.
January 31st, 2009 at 9:50 pmsuzysmom Says:
BARRY MESSIAH ALREADY SET FIRE TO THE WHITE HOUSE MANTEL
HOPE HE HAS TO PAY FOR DAMAGES.
:YOU LIBERALS WONT BE TREATED ANY DIFFERENT WHEN HIS CIVILIAN POLICE FORCE PUTS ALL OF US UNDER HOUSE ARREST
BUT YOU VOTED FOR THIS ISLAMOFACSIST MUSLIM
Did we neglect to take our lithium this morning? We’re getting delusional again. . .
January 31st, 2009 at 10:42 pmTenet in Oval Office with no jacket.
suzysmom Says:
BARRY MESSIAH ALREADY SET FIRE TO THE WHITE HOUSE MANTEL
HOPE HE HAS TO PAY FOR DAMAGES.
No, he didn’t. Wait… the only link in that entire Google search that suggests he did is… Hannity quoting Savage? No, a random person on Hannity’s forum quoting Savage. Well, I see you’re a well-informed crazy person!
suzysmom Says:
YOU LIBERALS WONT BE TREATED ANY DIFFERENT WHEN HIS CIVILIAN POLICE FORCE PUTS ALL OF US UNDER HOUSE ARREST
He won’t let anybody in America leave their houses? Why would he do that?
January 31st, 2009 at 10:43 pmDid glezzy and rr have a devil spawn? Is this where this new deluded troll came from? Jesus, what a failure our educational system to allow this much ignorance to happen. It is spraying hate and bullshit over a large number of threads. It is unbalanced. I hope suzy is in a foster home.
January 31st, 2009 at 10:58 pmI hope TP is carefully comparing this suzysmom troll’s IP address with past offenders, just to see if one slipped back through security.
Not only do I find you offensive, suzysmom, I find you ignorant, too. Not a good combination.
January 31st, 2009 at 11:17 pmNote to susysmom —
For Susy’s sake, as well as your own, please know that there is help available for your condition. Remember that seeking help for mental health problems no longer carries the stigma that it once did.
And, don’t forget, when you resent someone, you willingly become their slave.
It seems that you somehow associate fascism and the islamic faith.
Particularly perplexing, and perhaps inconvenient in terms of your argument, is the geographical location of most fascist movements that have occurred to date. In most cases, such movements seem to have arisen in the 1920s through 1940s in various European countries, the best known surfacing in Germany and Italy, and to a lesser extent in Spain and Portugal. It seems that the only other areas in the world where such movements have taken place are Brazil, Japan and Lebanon (the Kataeb Party, which was secular, but primarily supported by Maronite Christians).
Given the preceding, it would appear that, with the lone exception of Japan, fascist movements have been primarily associated with the Christian organizations or in most cases, countries where Christians far outnumber those who subscribe to non-Christian beliefs.
Please enlighten us with your best scholarly explanation as to how fascism and the islamic faith are related. We are eagerly awaiting your informed and learned reply.
February 1st, 2009 at 1:17 amI know. It’s just that the repressed homosexuality of wingnuts like windsuck is so sick. windsuck obviously wanted to blow Bill Clinton, and now he is going to freak about Barack Obama’s cock for years.
Good lord, please deliver us from these right-wing nutcases. We have more important things to deal with.
February 1st, 2009 at 1:45 amTo all the Democrats and “sane Republicans, we need to remain focused and vigilant!
We have a nation to build and its called The United States of America.
February 1st, 2009 at 2:55 amYES WE CAN!!
Card and his cronies disrespected the White House by walking into the building.
A clear indictment of the Republicans who laud form over substance.
February 1st, 2009 at 8:09 amDid I miss something?
February 1st, 2009 at 10:29 amAndrew card is fixated with the garb, rather than the monk. It explains the shallowness of some policies of the last President. It was about appearances, and not substance.
Bush shills like Card need to watch their mouths. Through their actions, policies and behavior, the Bush administration has desecrated the office of the American presidency unlike any other previous administration. Everyone from Bush all the way to Card has shown such a lack of respect for the office and its responsibilities to the American people, the Constitution and the Rule of Law, Card’s statements are just plain absurd. The sheer audacity of saying this is incomprehensible. I’m certain Bush created the “appearance” of “professionalism” to compensate for the fact that he was the most juvenile, incompetent, idiotic president of the last 100 years. But if you look the part, well, golly, that’s just half the battle, now isn’t it?
February 1st, 2009 at 10:39 amsuzysmom Says:
BARRY MESSIAH ALREADY SET FIRE TO THE WHITE HOUSE MANTEL
HOPE HE HAS TO PAY FOR DAMAGES.
:YOU LIBERALS WONT BE TREATED ANY DIFFERENT WHEN HIS CIVILIAN POLICE FORCE PUTS ALL OF US UNDER HOUSE ARREST
BUT YOU VOTED FOR THIS ISLAMOFACSIST MUSLIM
Are you trapped in the basement of your trailer, which has been foreclosed upon by the financial ruin of four years of Bush?
Being force fed propranganda by gun-blow-jobbing republican civil rights haters or what?
You don’t get out much, do you?
February 1st, 2009 at 10:41 amOh, I get it!!!!! It’s OK to ruin our country’s economy and moral standing in the world as long as you look good doing it.
February 1st, 2009 at 10:56 amCard’s words “And some of that respect was reflected in how they expected people to behave, how they expected them to dress when they walked into the symbol of freedom for the world, the Oval Office.” shines a bright spotlight on his hypocrisy.
People who are truly free do not dress or behave as “they” (Reagan, Bush, etc.) expect them to dress or behave. To do so is more indicative of a dictatorship, not a Democracy. Of course, G.W. Bush made no secret that life for him would have been easier if only he could be dictator.
February 1st, 2009 at 11:19 amActually, Mr. Card failed to mention the bushes wanted all staff members to wear brown shirts, but they didn’t match well with the yellow streaks down their backs. The staff, however, did wear blood-red socks, and purple undies. True patriots, all.
February 1st, 2009 at 11:27 amAndy Card is a dou***bag. There. I’ve said it. This comment has no redeeming value. Sorry that for my failure to contribute (in a positive way) to the level of discourse.
February 1st, 2009 at 1:44 pmI would love it if O [what a hunk; no male boobs on him] and his staff were nude while working FREELY on the important problems of putting our country back together [moral standing, economic meltdown, Iraq war, and everything else that turned to chit with W 'supposedly' in charge of trying to make it fail] with W. Wonder what Card would say about working in the nude? Is that considered an insult to the oval office?
No one could ever insult the office more than W did!
February 1st, 2009 at 1:56 pmOne word: “redamdiculous!” Also, someone needs to get Suzy out of that house – immediately!
February 1st, 2009 at 2:24 pmI found Card’s argument to be misleading. Just because Obama permits “Business Casual” (which is dockers or slacks, belts, lace up or loafer style shoes, rolled up shirt sleeves while working and sports jackets during work, in a work approrpriate way, IS NOT dressing down like in a lockerroom.
There’s nothing wrong with having Obama arrive in shirt and slacks, sleeved rolled up for the work-a-day thing, with a suit jacket hanging on the back door, with an appropriate tie.
If you’re a file clerk… perhaps jeans and polo shirt is appropriate. The right dress code for the right job, at the right time, for meeting with the appropriate people. That sounds SO MUCH more reasonable to me.
Uber-formality and blind regard for whatever Cheney says, is so passe. Let’s permit the Bushies to fade out of consideration on any subject, including fashion sense, like leisure suits and gold medallions. No nostaglia. No reminiscing. Just donate them to the Salvation Army and be done with them.
February 1st, 2009 at 3:54 pmDoctorRobert Says:
Oh, I get it!!!!! It’s OK to ruin our country’s economy and moral standing in the world as long as you look good doing it.
February 1st, 2009 at 10:56 am
TP, this should be the featured comment for this thread.
February 1st, 2009 at 4:33 pmsuzysmom Says:
Why dont you increase your medication and just STFU you incredibly stupid living talking point. If you ever had an original thought in your entire life you would mistake it for a stroke. Reading your abject stupidity and monumental ignorance has my braincells begging for the sweet release of a coma
February 1st, 2009 at 4:47 pmgiven the choice between a suit and tie or a blowjob … hmmm … i’ll take the blowjob … seems to me that a blowjob in the oval office gave us a surplus economy …
February 1st, 2009 at 6:38 pmsuzysmom is a Far Right loon, ban her!!
February 1st, 2009 at 9:07 pmWhat a card, Card! “Casual, laissez faire” attitude, you say? Is that kind of like the “deregulation” you guys were so fond of? I can see why you’re so miffed. Didn’t work for you guys. You all ran around in ties locked away in the White House while Wall Street and the banks threw our money around like a basketball in short sleeves and jocks, and spread their B.O. over the whole economy. You should know, dip stick.
February 1st, 2009 at 9:32 pmWhy are we so stuck on traditions and customs? G.W. didn’t do a darn thing while in office. Who cares if President Obama comes to work in pajamas? As long as he gets the job done I don’t care what he wears or what time he gets into work.
February 1st, 2009 at 10:38 pmOn the scale of relative importance, I have to say that what one wears to work figures several notches above what one actually does at work. For example, if an investment broker takes your money and invests it in a Ponzi scheme but wears smart well-tailored Brooks Brothers suits, you will have no choice but to smile, give him more money, and hope you’re not the last tier in the pyramid. Similarly, if your president respects the oval office by wearing a jacket and refraining from twiddling the twaddle of a plump, willing intern, the country will be most forgiving when that well-dressed president leads the nation into a trillion-dollar war against a nation because of weapons that nation doesn’t actually have. And even when the president disrespected the people of New Orleans by taking off his shirt and then rolling up his sleaves for a photo op, we all knew that this was justified, because this was a symbol of getting work done, something that, as we all know, is hard to do while wearing a jacket.
February 1st, 2009 at 11:51 pmDoctorRobert Says:
Oh, I get it!!!!! It’s OK to ruin our country’s economy and moral standing in the world as long as you look good doing it.
They didn’t look nearly good enough to get away with that. I’d expect nothing less than a Reservoir Dogs lineup to even try to pull off the shit they were up to.
February 2nd, 2009 at 12:45 amThis is the same guy that THAT HELD UP A PAPER TELLING Bush “Don’t say anything yet” AFTER HE TOLD Bush the second plane has hit the WTC. All the delays gave the debacle time to play itself out—as was planned. And wasn’t that “respectable to the office of POTUS and “patriotic”? NOT!!!
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:28 amOne would think that he would be ashamed to make any comparison between the work habits of the last President Bush and President Obama. President Obama goes into the Oval Office to do the work of the President of the United States not to look like he’s doing the work, in between vacations.
I’d like to see this jester’s last boss dressed appropriately for his new calling… in an orange jumpsuit. After all, prison is the appropriate reward for betraying the constitution and committing crimes against humanity. I think a case can be made for those charges. If President Obama lacks the stomach for that part of his responsibility, there are a bunch of judges in den Haag who are experienced in the proper procedure, for dealing with the former criminal heads of failed-states. We’ll see.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 amCard is right……..
Bush and his minions wore jackets….long tails to be exact….
They used it to wipe their a##es over the rule-of-law and the constition…………..
Thanks for nothing Card……………
February 2nd, 2009 at 7:36 amRepublicians are all about form over substance..
February 2nd, 2009 at 8:10 amReagan and both Bushes showed proper respect for the office by committing felonies and by reneging on their oaths of office. None of those men upheld the constitution and none of them felt that committing a crime was beneath the dignity of the office. At least Reagan had a mental illness, What exactly is the Bush family excuse?
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 am911=Inside Job – Send these fascists to the Hague!
February 2nd, 2009 at 12:54 pmyes we can!
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:18 pmSome SNL actors said they would have a very hard time finding any comedy-worthy material in Obamaland. Perhaps the free press has struggled to find newsworthy dirt on Obama. Naturally, they must slander him, he’s a DEMOCRAT after all. If the man can reverse some of the Bush/Cheney damage,then I don’t care if he comes to work in his pajamas.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:14 amhttp://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/02/oval_office_dress_obama_w_clin.html
February 6th, 2009 at 12:41 pmIt’s all about priorities. Remember the RNC decision to fund $180,000 in campaign clothing for Sarah Palin? Contrary to a popular saying, clothing does NOT make the man (or woman). Honesty, integrity, and hard work do. So let Presdent Obama and his aides roll up their shirt sleeves and get to work on cleaning up the mess that we currently find ourselves in. (It’s hard to scrub a toilet in an evening gown.)
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