Senate GOP’s ‘stimulus plan’ costs 3.5 times as much as Obama’s.
Senate GOP’s ‘stimulus plan’ costs 3.5 times as much as Obama’s.
This morning, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said that President Obama’s recovery package, priced at roughly $819 billion, is too expensive. GOP “members” believe that they can pass a “very robust” stimulus at a cheaper price, he said:
Most of my members believe that we could pass a very robust stimulus for less than the amount currently before us. We have been throwing figures around like it was paper money. We are already looking at, before we even do this, at over a trillion dollar deficit for this year. We all agree that we need to do something, but I don’t think we should not just completely act like the amount is irrelevant.
Watch it:
But McConnell’s cheaper plan doesn’t exist. Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) is pushing the Senate GOP’s only alternative, “American Option: A Jobs Plan That Works.” A new Wonk Room analysis finds that DeMint’s plan will cost $3.1 trillion over ten years, more than 3.5 times the cost of Obama’s:
Not surprisingly, DeMint’s plan consists of permanent tax breaks for corporations and lowering income tax for the wealthy. For the Senate GOP, it seems that deficit spending is permissible as long as it is done via tax cuts for the rich.
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February 2nd, 2009 at 1:54 pmBut what would republicans hate facts think about this?
I’m sure we all want his FOAMING AT THE MOUTH opinion.
ROTFLMAO
¶ AIO
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:54 pmWay to go GOP! You’ve got a sure winner with that one!
You know, since this whole problem was caused by ridiculus spending and running up the deficit to give tax breaks to the rich and large corporations, obviously the solution is to give tax breaks to the rich and large corporations…
These guys are starting to remind me of Saddam Hussein somehow. Particularly the South Park version.
February 2nd, 2009 at 1:57 pmIt’s so inconvenient for the corporations and the uber-wealthy to have to hide their money in Cayman Island bank accounts. Let’s cut all of their taxes to zero so they can be close to their money.
The rest of you 98% losers pony up, goddamnit. We need some money to pay Wall Street bonuses and to kill more brown people!
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:00 pmIs there money in the GOPer’s version for a chin implant for McConnell? He makes Lieberman look macho.
PEACE
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 pmRepublicans: Once, twice, three times a f uck up…
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 pmWas there just a huge run on sheep’s clothing today?
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 pmalphainfinityomega, keep spinnin child. You are just as guilty as rhf. I’m flagging both of you for personal attacks.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:06 pmNot surprisingly, DeMint’s plan consists of permanent tax breaks for corporations and lowering income tax for the wealthy. For the Senate GOP, it seems that deficit spending is permissible as long as it is done via tax cuts for the rich.
We will not hear much of this on corporate media which is also invested in defense, banking, health care , big pharma, insurance…
They want their tax cuts and their boys back in power.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:06 pmOh I’m sure Mr. Turtle would like to pass his parties stimulus package but guess what Mr. Turtle??? You are in the minority party now sucker!
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:12 pmJ.Davis, no Obama just hates stupid, ignorant, redneck, knuckle dragging racists like you. Phuck Dixie!
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:13 pmFred Says:
alphainfinityomega, keep spinnin child. You are just as guilty as rhf. I’m flagging both of you for personal attacks.
Yeah, Fred, but I don’t foam at the mouth.
Seriously, if RHF doesn’t stop being a mouth breather, I fear (hope) he might choke himself.
¶ AIO
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:13 pmUmm, Davis, J as in Jerk, President Obama would like to have you visit this link . Then STFU. In that order.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:15 pmThom Hartmann has a good idea:
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:16 pm
God is punishing all of the hateful backwoods rednecks and counterfeit Christians who live in Kentucky.
Hey J.Davis did it ever occur to you that the State officials in Kentucky never requested any help from the government and unlike you, the people of Kentucky aren’t whiny little cowards like you apparently are.
Sell the South back to Mexico, along with all of the ignorant republikkkans who live there!
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:18 pmDid you check out that link, Jefferson Davis? NOW STFU.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:22 pmWhile they argue and block the ’stimulus pack’, the US’s economy continues to slide downwards.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:23 pmJ.Davis is quite the comedian. I mean he can’t be for real, right? Pretty good parody of an ignorant right winger though.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:24 pmJ.Davis Says:
Well the State of Kentucky has had the worst natural diaster in the Commonwealths history and obama hasn’t visited yet.It’s been 7 days now and still no comment or visit,so I just concluded that sense bush didn’t show up fast enough in N.O.,he hates blacks, so the same must be true in regard to obama and whites. Is this correct?
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:12 pm
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Last time I checked, President Obama was not a licensed electrician. What he could possibly accomplish by personally travelling to Kentucky is a mystery to me.
However, he did declare a state of emergency in Kentucky and Arkansas immediately following the winter storm.
And he’s trying to get Congress to pass a stimulus package that would invest in a better electrical grid that would prevent a winter storm from knocking out power to millions of people, but some people think that the powerless people of Kentucky would be better served by tax cuts.
Now, if Obama allows his cronies in to Arkansas and Kentucky and takes advantage of the disaster to ethnically cleanse these two states of their white populations and move in low-income African-Americans, you’ll have a point. But that’s not going to happen.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:25 pmJ.Davis Says:
“God is punishing all of the hateful backwoods rednecks and counterfeit Christians who live in Kentucky.” Is that so…can you give me your insite to New Orleans and Katrina then? What was God’s angle there?
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:21 pm
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What’s “insite?”
You people really need to do some better book-learnin.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:26 pmWhat I do not understand is, the GOP supports corporate tax cuts,again, cutting taxes for the wealth, again. WTF – this has not worked ANY of the times that the GOP has done this is the past what the heck makes them think it will work this time?
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:27 pmThey know it will not work BUT they are SO stuck in the past that they can not see anything but the rich, the rich and the corporations……………
JUST SAY NO TO TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH AND INFAMOUS(corporations)………
WOW!
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pmWay off topic.
Razor_boy, what does your attack on rhf have to with anything here?
And Jerk Davis, what does your pathetic, racist view of blacks have to do with the GOPs expensive stimulus plan?
Republicans don’t care if it works, they want to create the myth that it does so that they could fool the sheep…the Dittoheads who proudly proclaim that they are for tax cuts to the wealthiest…
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:34 pmI didn’t know Kentucky had a gay parade!
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:36 pmJ.Davis Says:
1 trillion,3 trillion, whats the difference? It’s like comparing suicide by a .38 or a .44.
This kind of precise mathematical analysis is why wingnuts don’t get to be in charge of the economy any more.
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Does obama hate white people? I remember that someone made a statement that bush hated blacks because he didn’t get to New Orleans for 4 days after the hurricane.
Actually, the complaint was that not enough was done by the government, the National Guard wasn’t mobilized quickly enough, and there wasn’t enough follow through. I always thought having the President physically go there or fly over a disaster in this day and age was ridiculous.
From CNN:
Sixteen deaths and you’re comparing it to New Orleans?
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:36 pmThey brought electricity to unappreciative bumpkins, like you.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 pmSixteen white people.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:41 pmJ.Davis Says:
Please,h.t.,what did the federal tyrants ever do that they didn’t screw up? I don’t have time today to chronicle all of y’all’s bold hypocrisy,continue on in all of your radiant self righteous,intolerant,ignorant,bigoted glory.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
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Oh, I can think of a few things. They put a bunch of people on the moon… Built a network of interstate highways connecting the country… Kept a bunch of inbred hicks from seceding from the union… That sort of thing.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pmShow me the socialism!
I want to see this much-vaunted socialism that the GOP is so worried about. I have yet to see it.
So…. where is it?
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pmJ.Davis,
If I may be so kind…
Proper Punctuation
Hope this helps!
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pmSweden.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pmOh, I can think of a few things.
The Aqueduct?
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:47 pmOh, and the internet… you remember what crazy theories used to be like, J.Davis…
What doesn’t Mitch McConnell understand about the American people voted for CHANGE??
TAX CHANGE, got it??
The top 1% doubled their income during the last 8 years. ENOUGH ! !
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:49 pmJ.Davis is an example of why we have laws against incest.
consequenses instead of consequences
insite instead of insight
sense instead of since
the banjo player in the movie Deliverance comes to mind.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:51 pmThis morning, on either CNN or MSNBC, I heard a brief reference to (some) Republicans saying they won’t support the stimulus bill in the Senate, unless the Bush tax cuts are made permanent. Didn’t hear any further details, as I was getting ready to leave the house. But if this is the case, then Reid better tell them to go ahead and filibuster, and the Dems not just roll over (again). Let the Repukes filibuster and let the American people SEE it. Their obstructionism needs to be perfectly clear! As the RNC’s new chairman, Michael Steele just said, “Bipartisanship is overrated.” Obviously, when it comes to the Republicans, bipartisanship really means their way or now way!
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 pmJ.Davis Says:
Yea,they are just a bunch of crackers….their deaths don’t matter……
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
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Why do you hate white people, racist?
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm“Sixteen deaths and you’re comparing it to New Orleans?”
Seriously. Hyperbole.
It’s a bad situation for sure and I certainly feel bad for those dealing with it. I think the whole race thing is irrelevant either way… But what else should be done at this stage?
He declared the area a state of emergency. Is there anyone else in this country that would rather Obama showed up to stand around on some ice and look sad instead of dealing with this stimulus plan stuff? I can see a benefit of a President trying to show some solidarity with the people of New Orleans… But what is happening in those states now is not comparable and is not being exacerbated by repeat federal government stupidity (such as the whole levee issue in New Orleans).
Come on.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:54 pmToasterhead, as far as I’m concerned, the South can secede now.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pmJ.Davis should be happy with the situation in Kentucky – state’s right and the federal government incompetence and all that nonsense.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pmJ.Davis Says:
Well,your right,the federal tyrant did one hell of a job of destroying it’s own Constitution! Now that they did well and completely!
Since you are referring to Bush, you are right on this one. But not completely. Those of us who are sane are trying to redeem it now.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:00 pmJ.Davis Says:
Please,h.t.,what did the federal tyrants ever do that they didn’t screw up? I don’t have time today to chronicle all of y’all’s bold hypocrisy,continue on in all of your radiant self righteous,intolerant,ignorant,bigoted glory.
February 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 pm
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Yeah, and they kind of funded and built a little thing called the Internet.
and so here we are…
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:02 pmTeam Obama is once again playing an excellent game of chess. The news all weekend was about how the richest 1% of Americans doubled their incomes over the past eight years.
Now let that sink in with the American people, and when the GOPers come out with their “make Bush’s tax cuts permanent” We the People will sit up and take notice of what they’re really saying.
Obama is promising larger, deeper tax cuts for 95% of the population. A few percent will see no change at all. The 1% who doubled their wealth in just eight years? Time to pay the piper.
Well played, Obama!
PEACE
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:02 pmNow wonder bush loves abe so much!
Bush understands Lincoln about as well as you do, J.Davis… which is to say, not at all.
Time to put aside Confederate things and join the modern world.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:05 pmWe are witnessing the death of the Repugnant Party and it looks like a mass suicide. Tax cuts for the wealthy? The R dickheads were told it wouldn’t work but they did it anyway and guess what? It didn’t work. And now they want to roll that corpse out again?
Why not try to help all of America instead of the top 1%?
Oh, and J. Davis, go with the .44 please, there IS a difference.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:08 pmThat’s the first time I’ve heard George W. Bush referred to as “the federal tyrant”. I like it. Keep up the good work.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 pmHAHA half of the working population pays no tax at all! Y’all don’t really believe all this crap do you? How do you cut the taxes of someone who pays no taxes?
All Working People pay taxes when they purchase things… sales taxes.
All Working People pay taxes everytime they get a paycheck… payroll taxes.
Your have no idea what you are talking about… you are just repeating the dopey things those Republican’s tell the suckers.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:14 pmYou choose 819 billion or 2,876 trillion. The GOP needs that pork and they wont pass a bill without it. It’s there job to make sure the Rich and Wall Street get that 5000 percent profit even if it is at the cost of the starving, jobless, homeless taxpayers. Look after reading comments from voters in John Boehner’s hometown newspaper those voters agree with him they would rather lose everything they have and follow he will he laughs all the way to his off shore bank. Kenturky Citizen’s are not only losing everything but the weather is taking what little they have left. But Kentucky is still supporting Mitch McConnell and his Wife who have robbed that State blind and will continue until the new AG does the investigations of their crimes. This is an example of why Republican Law Makers can do what they do. Vitter’s is now fat because Wendy # 1 put him in lock down so he can’t get sex from Wendy # 2. Americans are starved for food and shelter, while Vitter’s is starved for sex from Hookers.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:15 pmWhat is this J.Davis, where did it come from, and is there some pill or cream that will make it go away?
It’s like watching network TV without the benefit of the DVR. Too many commercial interruptions, no way to fast-forward.
PEACE
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pmThey are all about the same thing.
How about you join the 21rst century? Or if you must embrace the politics of the 19th century could you also embrace the technology of the 19th?
A nice newsletter or pamphlet would be infinitely preferable to your continued posting on the internet created by a tyrannical federal government- don’t you agree?
(also stay off our roads and out of our hospitals, okay? We’re tired of subsiding your ungrateful @ss…)
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 pmThere is something very wrong with the Quick Vote question on cnn.com… which asks:
It should ask:
CNN = gopper infomercial.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:22 pmNicely put spencers mom.The GOOPERS would rather see America go down the tubes and take credit for it at any cost to us the middle and working class than see any form of scialism to the people that need like us,who are struggling unless you are Wall Street material.The REICH Wing has already bankrupted this country with their BUSH TAX CUTS and the fine war in messopatamia(IRAQ).
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:28 pmJ.Davis,
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:33 pmWhy don’t you just leave? You don’t seem to like it here. There is nothing keeping you here but your own ignorance.
What? More trickle down?
And Repukes would stoop to lying and deception?
Now that IS a surprise.
Why are the “Liberal Media (LMAO)” giving Air Time to these scum bags?
Oh, forgot…never mind.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:34 pmThe Red Team has officially become a one-trick pony.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 pmWe get these sorts of disastrous power outages because it is cheaper to hang power lines from artificial trees where everything from squirrels to ice storms can have fun with them.
Money spent properly on infrastructure would see them buried in conduit, those removing a tremendous number of power poles from our road sides. Of course we would take away the potshooting targets from idiots and make fewer things to hit when sliding off icy roads.
Cheaper is better has been the credo for too many projects that impact our daily lives.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 pmJ. Davis- put it in a telegram… I’m done reading what you post on your ‘federal masters‘(sic) created web. You’re tiresome…
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:38 pmIsn’t there a definition of insanity to continue to do the same thing expecting a different outcome? Tax cuts for the rich and corporations are the only thing that the republicans know how to do? Isn’t that how we got here? Isn’t that why we voted for something different this past election? Whatever happened to elections have consequences?
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:40 pmJ.Davis,you sound as ignorant as the of the GOOPERS you helped put in office,why do you refuse believe that Reaganomics,neoconservative and the current Re-puke ideology has not and will not work?Your party`s values are not that of middle and working class America and we make up most of the population.If you are middle or working class you are continously voting against yourself aren`t you ?
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:41 pmA note to all who truly feel that the country is now headed in a dangerous direction, that no government funded program has benefits for them in their daily life or who are discontented with life here in general…you don’t need an exit visa.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:41 pmJ.Davis Says:
“Sixteen deaths and you’re comparing it to New Orleans?” Yea,they are just a bunch of crackers….their deaths don’t matter……
Your complaint lacks credibility. Katrina was allowed to spiral out of control and far more people died/were displaced then in Kentucky.
So, what is your point?
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pmYou want to be subsidized, you damn Socialist! Why don’t you go live in France or somewhere if you like Socialism so much?
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 pmJ.Davis Says:
“Obama is promising larger, deeper tax cuts for 95% of the population.” HAHA
When Obama campaigned on it, he said 95% of taxpayers would receive no tax increases. 90% of taxpayers would receive a cut. That was the deal then, and as far as I know, that will still be the proposal coming down the pike.
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Davis Says:
Oh belac, should I come crawling up to my federal masters feet and beg forgiviness? Good grief,y’all whine about bush and tyranny,but you only had it for 8 years,we have had tyranny as our form of govt. for 144! You cry about subsidizing us…it’s just the cost of your conquest! ;)
The Southern states were originally a part of the Union before trying to secede. It’s not is if they existed as states and were forced into the Union originally.
And yes, if you’re going to mention what the Federal government is doing to help people in Kentucky, you should realize that a State of Emergency declaration entitles Kentucky to emergency Federal funds to help with the crisis. That option would not exist if Kentucky were not a part of the United States of America, as you would prefer.
Therefore, you want more people in Kentucky to die. Obama is doing things to prevent that. Your initial complaint is now completely reversed.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:48 pmJ.Davis Says:
Why! I love it here! Y’all don’t want me to leave,I’m the best think that’s ever happened over here! Without me,y’all would sit around telling each other stuff y’all already know.Shoot! I don’t want to waste time talking to folks that think exactly like I do,what’s the point or fun of that? Now really,without me,y’all would be bored stiff wouldn’t you?
Shoot! Make a point J.Davis. How about some sort of side-by-side comparison of the governments response to Katrina versus the response to the ice storm last week?
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:48 pmScarborough forgets this…
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pmDoes J.Davis even try and read his illiterate, poorly constructed sentences before he posts?
Apparently not.
Everyone makes typos and stuff once in awhile, but come on, this is just truly uneducated, home schooled, bad grammar.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pmEmergency federal funds!?!? THAT’S SOCIALISM!!! Socialism is a bad thing, so no federal emergency funds for Kentuckians.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:53 pmJ.Davis Says:
Shoot! I don’t want to waste time talking to folks that think exactly like I do,what’s the point or fun of that?
All of the folks who think exactly like you do have one tooth and twelve chromosomes between them and are named “Cletus.” I wouldn’t want to talk to them either.
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pmAs for love of country,I loved my country,but your country destroyed mine,now I’m just your little ole colonial burden!
WTF?
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:56 pmBy my count this makes J.Davis about 160 years old… no wonder he sounds senile and delusional…
Republicans being republicans. Stick it to the (vanishing) middle class, and pander to corporate America and the wealthy.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:01 pm“Tax cuts, especially temporary ones, and fiscal relief to the states are likely to create fewer jobs than direct increases in government purchases.” As Mark Zandi of MoodyEconomy.com illustrates, the tax cuts so often sought for by the GOP actually do far less than what had been hoped.
Lump sum rebates actually put a mere two cents of stimulation back into the economy, with across the board cuts offering only three cents over each dollar of benefit. A cut in corporate tax rates does do better but by only thirty cents on the dollar. You can actually gain nothing by accelerating depreciation.
While the GOP points to the need for businesses to operate in a low tax environment, and this has been well documented, does not directly create jobs. The shareholders are pleased that the company they have invested in can operate with less tax burdens on the profits but then, these same shareholders rejoice at any cost cutting measure including mass layoffs. Looking for Wall Street’s approval is not what the economy needs. -Paul Petillo
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:05 pmI hope the DEMS all vote “NO” on the re-pukes stim plan!!!!
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pmI doubt the figure but please tell me what the Obama “stimulus” bill would stimulate besides cow flatulance!!
The economy, Wall Street, Job Creation, Infrastructure… etc. etc.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 pmWell, it definately would not stimulate any intelligent thoughts by you.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:10 pmI doubt the figure but please tell me what the Obama “stimulus” bill would stimulate besides cow flatulance!! -John Kerry
Tell us what the republican plan does.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pmIt cuts taxes on the uber-wealthy and the corporations so they can create lots of jobs. You know, like they do now.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:17 pmNo.South Carolina was acting in self defense.
Bull… even if we buy your argument that South Carolina could ‘divorce’ itself from the Union at will (which I don’t) how can you claim ’self defense?’
That would be like a husband declaring himself divorced from his wife because he renounced her three times and legally justified in shooting her because she didn’t move out of his house after he warned her several times… no one entered and pointed a gun- Ft.Sumter was already there… you don’t get to declare someone an intruder and open fire when their presence becomes irksome to you… that’s illegal…
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pmJohn Kerry Says:
I doubt the figure but please tell me what the Obama “stimulus” bill would stimulate besides cow flatulance!!
It stimulated your idiotic post which is about three levels lower than cow farts if we were sorting by intelligence.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pmJ.Davis Says:
If he can spread enough around to all the right people,
Uhh….who? what?
make a bunch of illegal criminals into citizens
If you are an illegal criminal, wouldn’t that mean you are someone who is innocent yet convicted? It’s illegal to imprison an innocent person (not so much under GWB), but if you are incarcerated then you are a criminal? Huh? Wait…
and kill the 1st amendment
How so? When?
he and his party will be able to tyrannize the minority section of his own countrymen for decades!
What does this mean? Do they speak American English where you are from?
Boy!ain’t life grand!
I think this J.Davis character is laying it on waaay too thick with his “folky, good ole boy” lingo. I smell a fraud with less fight in ‘im than a toothless coon hound! Why, shoot, I was watching good ole Andy Griffith the other day and I got ta thinking…that ole bell Auntie May could sure butter my biscuit any day of the week – twice on Sundays! Woooo hooooo, golly, y’all, I’m sweatin’ like hog jus’ thinkin bout her. Yessir, ma’am, I am.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:27 pmSo J.Davis, are you a Libertarian who wants to “smoke dope and get laid”? Or are you a TROLL in democrat clothing.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:35 pmawwwww…the rich are getting really hit during this economic downturn…and they’re not used to having things not go their way. TEE-HEE! So they take some auld lang syne trips on their corporate jets, manage to spend millions of dollars celebrating the Super Bowl, and send SOS signals to their shills like chinless McConnell and Do-Do DeMint and Rush Limpballs. I only hope the Dems won’t cave on this one. If the Senate doesn’t support Obama’s plan, it means it’s just going to be business as usual in DC. I hope, hope, hope Obama and the Dems won’t let that happen.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:36 pmJohn Kerry Says:
I doubt the figure but please tell me what the Obama “stimulus” bill would stimulate besides cow flatulance!!
It stimulated you enought to pinch off another lamebrained comment.
Mission Accomplished!
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:37 pmJ.Davis Says:
You might be taken a little more seriously, if you didn’t insist on using the name of a traitor to the country.
Just a suggestion, mind you…
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:38 pmWhat exactly did we get of value from the $10 trillion borrowed by Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.?
Which minority has it’s own section? Is there some roped off area just for you dumbass redneck wingnuts?
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 pmMaybe that’s the way it is where you live,but not here.If somebody comes in my house and points a gun at me,they are dead,period.
And if it’s a cop, say goodby to your freedom. Or didn’t you know that cops sometimes enter, before identifying themselves?
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 pmOr didn’t you know that cops sometimes enter, before identifying themselves?
Except in this case it was a cop who stayed in the Police Station and didn’t leave fast enough when the crazy neighbor declared that Police Station his property… you’d really go down for that one J. Davis.
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:47 pmAnd he was not a traitor to your country because he was not a citizen of your country.
Really?!? Then how in the Hell did he get into West Point? Or the Senate? Someone was asleep at the switch there…
February 2nd, 2009 at 4:54 pmBelac ,you have only heard one side of this thing till I started talking to y’all haven’t you?
Put it in a pamphlet… if your logic is to remain suspended in the 19th century- you should at least have the courage to distribute your message in the 19th century way…
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:19 pmCourtesy of Mitch McConnell, more voodoo economics from the party that brought you that pile you just stepped in…
http://jackrabbitcafe.blogspot.com
February 2nd, 2009 at 5:21 pmTweedster Says:
How about some sort of side-by-side comparison of the governments response to Katrina versus the response to the ice storm last week?
Remember when Bush was complaining that if he had landed in Baton Rouge people would be mad at him? Apparently J.Davis also thinks the only thing a President can do about a crisis is to show up personally.
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J.Davis Says:
“STEALING THE LAND – you know like GOVERNMENT FORTS and then SHOOTING AT US while doing it!”
Are you a Native American? No?
For the love of Pete, quit whining about the Civil War, or we’ll send troops down there and do it again just to shut you up.
Seriously, you’re single-issue “South will rise again!” fetish is the most bizarre thing I’ve seen here. At least RaptureReady’s singleminded obsession with butt sex is also shared by a number of biblethumpers today. But you might as well be whining about orbital mind control lasers for how popular or relevant your opinion is to today’s issues.
Besides, you weren’t alive during the civil war. You were born and raised in the United States of America.
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J.Davis Says:
Let talk about all the borrowed money hussien is gonna waste on paybacks!If he can spread enough around to all the right people,make a bunch of illegal criminals into citizens,and kill the 1st amendment,he and his party will be able to tyrannize the minority section of his own countrymen for decades!(or till his policies lead to the implosion of the country)and he will be able to make a killing in the mean time!Boy!ain’t life grand!
If you replace 1st with both 4th and 5th, you just described the Bush legacy in a nutshell.
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J.Davis Says:
If somebody comes in my house and points a gun at me,they are dead,period.
But they’ve got the gun pointed at you, so that doesn’t make sense. Do you have the power to kill people with your mind?
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J.Davis Says:
Nope,I’m a States Rights Conservative.
To quote the late great Michael Palin, you’re a flippin’ fruitcake is what you are. You don’t get to secede from the U.S.A. It is not allowed. There is no provision in the Constitution for seccession. Also, states don’t have rights, only individuals do.
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J.Davis Says:
He was not a traitor to our country,he was our President.And he was not a traitor to your country because he was not a citizen of your country.
You don’t get to have your own country. It is not allowed. There is no provision in the Constitution for seccession. If you want to do so, you are invited to leave the land owned by the U.S.A. and start one somewhere else, on somebody else’s land.
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J.Davis Says:
belac,he was a citizen of the State of Mississippi,Mississippi was a party to the compact known as the United States.When Mississippi withdrew from the United States,Davis responsibility to that govt. ended. Belac ,you have only heard one side of this thing till I started talking to y’all haven’t you?
Missisippi did not have the right to “withdraw” from the U.S.A. It is not allowed. There is no provision in the Constitution for seccession.
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:03 pmUm, ElBruce, Michael Palin is still very much alive.
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:12 pmpete Says:
Um, ElBruce, Michael Palin is still very much alive.
Obviously, I was referring to his predisposition for tardiness.
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 pmmillions for bees and fish..
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 pm–
Do you have any idea how important these two things are. Shall we start with the bees? See the thing is that most of the plant based nutrients you survive on reguire these little fellows to move their gametes about. And don’t even get me started on ocean based proteins…
The GOP’s other stimulus plan is invading Iran.
February 2nd, 2009 at 9:42 pm- John F. Kennedy, January 24, 1960.
To say the Republican alternative will cost more than the Demoncratic bill is disingenuous or simply ignorant of the difference between the arithmetic effect of tax cuts and the economic effect. The arithmetic effect ignores all economic incentives and effects of a tax cut that the golden child Kennedy recognized over 40 years ago.
February 2nd, 2009 at 10:50 pmGood ole boys can’t help themselves…They whine when the money goes to help the middle class…so they try and use the rules of the Senate to block what the People really want. Let’s just line them up and shoot them all. Or better yet let’s send them to China so they can destroy their economy.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:03 amAll I was pointing out is that this study provides no evidence that a tax cut would not increase (or decrease for that matter) revenue. Any analysis of the costs of a tax cut should at least consider what, if any, the tax cut would have on revenues. To think that a tax cut will automatically reduce revenue shows an utter lack of knowledge of economics. The issue, once that calculation is made, is whether such a cut would be offset by revenues. If it would not increase revenues more than the cost, fine then the cut is not in the country’s best interest. But to dismiss it out of hand without evidence is disingenuous. Even Keynes admitted that tax cuts can increase revenue beyond the cost of the cuts themselves.
I think everyone can agree taht 91% was too high. There is probably agreement that 70% was still too high. The question is whether we have found the marginal tax rate to maximize tax revenue. Obviously, there is some point in that rates too low will not properly cover expenses. I do not subscribe to lowering marginal rax rates to that level. I do not believe that that analysis has been undertaken — to determine the optimal level of a marginal tax rate to optimize revenues.
Until that analysis is done your ad hominem attacks against me and generalized statements about everyone in my “party” show nothing more than you are incapable of entertaining reasonable discourse about the subject, have no understanding of basic economic principles and using anger and these attacks to mask it.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:52 pm