Obama Justice Department Re-Hires Attorney Fired By Goodling Because Of Lesbian Rumor
Obama Justice Department Re-Hires Attorney Fired By Goodling Because Of Lesbian Rumor
In October 2006, Leslie Hagen, who was working as the liaison between the Justice Department and the U.S. attorneys’ committee on Native American issues, was informed that despite her “outstanding” job performance reviews, her contract would not be renewed. In April 2008, NPR reported that the Justice Department was investigating whether Hagen was fired after a rumor reached former Justice Department official Monica Goodling that she was a lesbian.
When the DoJ Inspector General report on Goodling was released in July 2008, it concluded that Goodling was motivated by Hagen’s perceived sexual orientation and “that Goodling’s actions violated Department policy and federal law, and constituted misconduct.”
Last night, however, NPR reported the good news that Obama Justice Department has re-hired Hagen for old position:
Last year, the Justice Department posted Hagen’s old job again. The department conducted a national search. Applications came in from around the country. After several rounds of interviews, Hagen eventually won the job.
The paperwork makes it official as of Monday, Feb. 2. Hagen now has her old position back, but this time it’s a little different. Her contract no longer comes up for renewal every year. Now, the job is permanent.
NPR’s Ari Shapiro notes that “it is not a perfectly happy ending for Hagen” because “nobody official from the department ever apologized to her for what happened” and she still owes thousands of dollars in attorney fees that the Bush Justice Department refused to pay.
Hagen’s rehiring is only the latest move in an effort by President Obama and new Attorney General Eric Holder to provide a “a clean break with the past policies of the Bush administration.” Not only does Holder say that the Department is “no place for political favoritism,” but he is also expected to embark on “a broad doctrinal shift in policies” from the Bush administration.
(HT: Queerty)
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Good. Another injustice remedied – at least in part.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:57 pmGood news! Good luck to Ms. Hagen! First!
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:57 pmDoes anyone know what happened to the odious Ms. Goodling?
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:57 pmThey should pay her legal fees from Bushes retirement.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:58 pmM.Goodling was given immunity from prosecution.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:00 pmI certainly hope that will not prevent her cooperative testimony at the trial of Alberto Gonzales…
Eat shite, Darryl.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pmRaptureReady Says:
Another Lawyer to do his socialist bidding.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
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Why is socialism bad?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:04 pmI would be happy, indeed, if Obama was a socialist. Socialists, however, know better. Perhaps right winger trolls would be better off talking about things they actually know about. Like, I dunno, the Bible.
In fact, why don’t you people just Rapture already?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:07 pmMonica Goodling has gone forth to prepare a mansion for Daryll.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:07 pmOh, joy. It’s that irksome Christian fundamentalist.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm“Too happy to be deterred.”
Isn’t the new administration a joyous thing?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pmPraise ye all creatures here below!
Frosty Cupcake Says:
I would be happy, indeed, if Obama was a socialist. Socialists, however, know better. Perhaps right winger trolls would be better off talking about things they actually know about. Like, I dunno, the Bible.
they think they know the Bible…but a lot of them don’t.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
Why is socialism bad?
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Because we all know what a $hithole Sweden is.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:10 pmDid you go to school with Monica, Daryll?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:10 pmDaryll is naught but a rabid fundamentalist who craves attention.
Don’t give it to him.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:11 pmMonica’s teaching a fell*tio class in Amsterdam, I hear.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 pmI hope Holder takes the broom out and gives a clean sweep to every Bush/Cheney appointee at Justice–most of the hires Bush put in had very marginal legal backgrounds.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm. Also, I am only happy because my wife is with child (2 1/2 weeks), and I lost my current contracting billet (IT).
Let’s pray that his child becomes homosexual/socialist.
Perhaps it would teach Daryll to get a life.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 pmCongratulations Daryll, is this the first one? We all know how hard you were going to try in Brazil a couple of winters ago…
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:18 pmSorry about the IT contract, was it tied in with Blackwater getting booted out of Iraq?
Give our regards to Tiffany, and we pray for the soul of your offspring.
RaptureReady Says:
How about we allow you to be a slave for the government because you refuse to be independent. Socialism is communism.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
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Wrong. Socialism is not communism. Socialism is not about “refusal to be independent,” whatever that means.
Try again. Answer my question. Why is socialism bad. Please explain in economic terms, without blanket statements that only show off your lack of education.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 pmCanny55,
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:20 pmI am not religious, but I give you an AMEN!
RaptureReady Says:
Another Lawyer to do his socialist bidding.
It’s funny how when there’s a Dem in office, the word “lawyer” becomes an epithet to the wingnuts.
I suspect what they really despise is the “law.”
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RaptureReady Says:
How about we allow you to be a slave for the government because you refuse to be independent. Socialism is communism.
No, they’re different words for a reason.
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Canny55 Says:
Oh, joy. It’s that irksome Christian fundamentalist.
Of course, the word “lesbian” is in the title.
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RaptureReady Says:
In this early stage, this administration is confused and horrid.
I’ve seen a lot more rocky nomination proceedings. The administration is doing just fine. Most don’t get this much done this fast. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever seen any get this much done at this pace.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:20 pmBetter make sure it is YOURS Ruptured!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pmRaptureReady Says:
No, but we both attended religious universities.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
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Well, that explains your complete lack of understanding of basic fundamental economic concepts.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pmRaptureReady Says:
No, but we both attended religious universities.
That’s no proper substitute for an education. Did Monica get her law degree there?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:23 pmIf Rapture Boy is now against socialism, he must have given up on Jesus of Nazareth.
Who’s your savior now, Daryll?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 pmYes, it is my first. Also, I no longer hold my billet because I have been promoted, which includes a generous increase in my salary. If you put Jesus first, you can obtain anything. Sinners lose out on everything.
Hm, I’m an atheist. I’ve had a very successful life, with a loving partner, a wonderful job, terrific friends, and success with my publishing endeavors. I have been promoted twice in my lifetime. I don’t need Jesus for success; the weak and delusional do.
I am also bisexual. I have never lost a thing, my friend.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:24 pmRaptureReady Says:
How about we allow you to be a slave for the government because you refuse to be independent. Socialism is communism.
Why don’t you come to Canada and say that??? You piece of shit.
You are the perfect poster boy for dumbing down America!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:26 pmRaptureReady Says:
Also, I no longer hold my billet because I have been promoted, which includes a generous increase in my salary. If you put Jesus first, you can obtain anything. Sinners lose out on everything.
They promoted you for being a Christian? Interesting.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:26 pmI hope Leslie Hagen sues Monica (Wicked Witch of the GOP)Goodling in civil court and takes everything she will ever earn.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:26 pmRuptured Spews;
If you put Jesus first, you can obtain anything. Sinners lose out on everything.
Bwa haaahaaaahaaaahaaaa
Gee Daryl,
That argument does not work for me. I do not put jhesus anywhere, yet I have been able to achieve and obtain anything I put my mind too. Your bedtime story hero does not have A DAMN THING TO DO WITH IT.
Your a pathetic waste. I really feel sorry for your spawn. I really do.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:26 pmRapture boy:
“Yes, it is my first. Also, I no longer hold my billet because-
there is enough sperm in the freezer for the next one.“
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:27 pmI see Daryll is an adherent to the “theology of abundance” in which God blesses those He favors with material comfort.
Doesn’t that kind of clash with the Beatitudes, though?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:28 pmRaptureReady Says:
I tell you what, I refuse to pay for every aspect of your life. If you cannot afford health insurance, etc., get a second or third job. Your failure is not my problem.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
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How very Christian of you.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:28 pmHave you been promoted to spy?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:33 pmdixie blood Says:
I hope Leslie Hagen sues Monica (Wicked Witch of the GOP)Goodling in civil court and takes everything she will ever earn.
They can’t give you immunity from that.
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RaptureReady Says:
I tell you what, I refuse to pay for every aspect of your life. If you cannot afford health insurance, etc., get a second or third job. Your failure is not my problem.
That’s the most un-Christian thing I’ve ever heard.
I don’t expect you to pay for me. I expect you and me to chip in to help out people who really need a hand up.
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ralph the wonder llama Says:
I see Daryll is an adherent to the “theology of abundance” in which God blesses those He favors with material comfort.
It logically follows that all corporate executives are without sin, and all people working in entry-level positions are sinners. I disagree with this conclusion.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:33 pmRaptureReady Says:
No for taking the initiative to think outside the box, enhance projects, give educated consultation on possible risk, etc. I don’t depend on others, unlike you libs. I refuse to let somebody help me when I can help myself.
I thought Jesus gets the credit for your promotion. Which is it?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:34 pmCareful there Daryll the pinhead.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:34 pmDon’t give out too much information. You do realize that you are breaking the law? Not to hard now to figure out where to have the DOJ raid. LOL
RaptureReady Says:
If you put Jesus first, you can obtain anything.
If you get 30 pieces of Silver first, you can be Republican…
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:36 pmRaptureReady Says:
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hussein toasterhead Says:
RaptureReady Says:
Another Lawyer to do his socialist bidding.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:01 pm
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Why is socialism bad?
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How about we allow you to be a slave for the government because you refuse to be independent. Socialism is communism.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm Recommend (0) | Report Abuse Actually,their on opposite ends of the political spectrum.
You know that don’t you fool?
tony and lido
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
RandomChaos Says:
Careful there Daryll the pinhead.
Don’t give out too much information. You do realize that you are breaking the law? Not to hard now to figure out where to have the DOJ raid. LOL
RaptureReady is lying about his place of employment. Probably about the promotion and the baby too. That’s what wingnuts do.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:37 pmAnd they wonder why I am successful during this economic period.
Try God.
A child just died a few days ago, because his parents refused medical treatment, since it went against their religious beliefs. They tried God, and now they have a dead child.
Works wonders, eh?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:40 pmBooz Allen Hamilton is majority owned by the Carlyle Group
Wonder what they would do to an employee breaking the law?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:40 pmRaptureReady Says:
No for taking the initiative to think outside the box, enhance projects, give educated consultation on possible risk, etc. I don’t depend on others, unlike you libs.
As usual, the “Christian” spends his time sitting in judgment on others, even though Jesus explicitly taught people not to do so. And as usual, Daryll likes to pretend that liberals don’t work hard and have jobs, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.
Liberals, like Jesus, have empathy for poor people, Daryll. Only selfish fake “Christians” behave as you do by hoarding your money and looking down on those less fortunate. Hell has a special circle for hypocrites, Daryll. You should take a harder look at yourself.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:42 pm“Only IT. Thanks be unto God for my success. And they wonder why I am successful during this economic period.
Try God.”
You call him IT now? Have you got the website address?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:43 pmNevar Says:
“Only IT. Try God.”
You call him IT now? Have you got the website address?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Deus ex machina INDEED!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:47 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Indeed. Daryll can’t grasp the irony that he constantly criticizes others for depending on the very government that pays his salary. Assuming he’s not making up his job entirely.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:48 pmbarfly,
That happens more than we will ever know. Prayer is cheap, it’s easy, you don’t have to get off your lazy ass. And if the kid dies, oh well. God has a plan and she’s in a better place.
The parents should be on trial for first degree murder.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:49 pmRaptureReady Says:
Thanks be unto God for my success. And they wonder why I am successful during this economic period.
Try God.
What happened to “…taking the initiative to think outside the box, enhance projects, give educated consultation on possible risk, etc. I don’t depend on others…”
You’re flipping back and forth on this with every other post.
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barfly Says:
A child just died a few days ago, because his parents refused medical treatment, since it went against their religious beliefs. They tried God, and now they have a dead child.
Works wonders, eh?
Obviously, one of them must have had buttsex. Or the child did. That’s how it works with RR’s “God.”
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:49 pmHey Rapture – I heard that Jesus was a socialist. Do you hate Jesus?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:51 pmgummitch Says:
Assuming he’s not making up his job entirely.
Darryl is making up his job entirely. The only reason wingnuts like to post what they do for a living on the Internet is to try to create a fantasy life where they’re independent, brilliant hard workers who rely on nothing and no one. Entrepeneurs, business owners or professionals (but not lawyers) etc.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:52 pmWhat is this all powerful IT deity? Do you have to tithe to be showered with an afterlife? Wear silly underwear? Suck the toes of IT?
Beats the shit out of believing in some three day old corpse, tell me more about your new god Daryll.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:53 pmRaptureReady Says:
Yes, it is my first. Also, I no longer hold my billet because I have been promoted, which includes a generous increase in my salary. If you put Jesus first, you can obtain anything. Sinners lose out on everything.
Hey rapture, did you know that I am next in line for Pope. We all can be whatever we want to be on the Internet, including delusional. I’m betting that this one lives in a doublewide some where in the middle of nowhere. But, he ban say he is whomever he wants to be on the Internet. Isn’t it grand.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:53 pmAlso, I will give you a hint about my firm, Sen. McConnell is a former VP, and we are the largest CIA contractor in the United States.‘
Ahh, RR? Sen. McConnell has been a Senator since 1984… are you’re not thinking of John ‘Mike’ McConnell not Sen. Mitch McConnell?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:54 pmRaptureReady Says:
Another Lawyer to do his socialist bidding.
I guess RR never uses the postal system, drives on the interstate system or vacations in a national park…I hope that RR never has need of the fire department and never has need of the police department.
I’m sure that RR has adequate long term care insurance in the event an accident rendering him unable to work and will have no need for Social Security in that case.
On the other hand, he might be thankful that Social Security will be there for his minor children if something ever happens to him even after his meager Life insurance runs out.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:55 pmAhh, RR? Sen. McConnell has been a Senator since 1984… are you’re not thinking of John ‘Mike’ McConnell not Sen. Mitch McConnell?
Good catch, belac.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:56 pmEither Daryll is fabricating again, or he is as dimwitted as we truly believe him to be.
Or both.
I miss bit
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:01 pmdbadass, I don’t.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:02 pmBut rectal rapture would be screaming like a stuck pig if they fired monica underling for being a bible beater.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:02 pmGive us this day our daily drivel
Thank you, Darryyll By the way, does IT stand for
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Daryl is a closet Jew, or at least a follower of the Old Testament. New Testament calls for a whole new ball game with things like, ‘He who is without sin casting the first stone’, ‘Walk a second mile’, ‘Take the plank from thine eye’, ‘The meek shall inherit’ and scores of other statements that turn back the vindictiveness of the Old.
I often wonder if these new fundies have ever even read the New Testament.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:09 pmRaptureReady Says
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I tell you what, I refuse to pay for every aspect of your life. If you cannot afford health insurance, etc., get a second or third job. Your failure is not my problem.
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So you believe in “every man for himself”, eh? How very CHRISTIAN of you! (not!)
But just for laughs — how is a person who has no health insurance becaus he doesn’t have ANY job despite months of looking for one supposed to get a “second or third job”?
I don’t know if you read the news much, but there are far more job seekers out there than there are jobs. Until we find a way to create a few jobs, this is the way it’s going to be for awhile.
But it’s not your problem, is it? Not your problem if people die in an emergency room for a problem that could have been prevented with proper care. Not your problem if people lose their home and live in the street because medical bills wiped out their ability to pay for their mortgage (and this can happen to people who DO have insurance!). Not your problem if people who are out of work and/or homeless drag the rest of the economy down because they have no money to spend (oh, and the crime rate tends to go up) — oh wait, that COULD be your problem. The domino effect can catch up to you, so you might not want to be so smug.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:11 pmHoodathunk Says:
“I often wonder if these new fundies have ever even read the New Testament.”
I’d argue most of them haven’t even read the bible, period. most of them sound like “ted haggards greatest hits” when they go off on their ranks.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:11 pmHoodathunk Says
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
I often wonder if these new fundies have ever even read the New Testament.
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Just Acts (the part about the Pentacost) and Romans (the gay reference) — the Gospels are pretty much ignored by them. In fact, their bibles are rather thin — they only contain a handful of verses they interpret to validate their bigotry against gays.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:14 pmHoodathunk, I am obviously not an expert on Christianity (some of my best friends are Christians!) and I have heard this separation of the New T. and Old T. to put distance between the vengeful God of the Old and the more peaceful and benign teachings of the New. Now comes the but part…BUT didn’t Jesus acknowledge and validate every whit of the Old T.?
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:16 pmMy apologies to those of the Jewish faith for even suggesting fundies like the Rupture are of your faith. They are their own brand of religion. One that claims belief without believing.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:17 pmnanlichi, acknowledging the old was out of respect. Supposedly the purpose Jesus came to earth was to supplant the Old with a New. There was a new message that beat the crap out of one where children were killed for laughing at an old man’s baldness.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:20 pmRaptureReady Says:
…Also, I am only happy because my wife is with child (2 1/2 weeks)…
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
That poor fetus…
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:23 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
Just Acts (the part about the Pentacost) and Romans (the gay reference)
Aside from the fact that our present day Bible is an edited version the surviving texts (both accepted and not) portray Jesus as a uniter. His words were primarily about compassion and caring. A total change from the old.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:24 pmZooey Says:
RaptureReady Says:
…Also, I am only happy because my wife is with child (2 1/2 weeks)…
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
That poor fetus…
Leaving aside the question of who knows they’re pregnant that early, there is this:
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Thanks Hoodathunk. And thanks for the laugh. Little shits should be beaten severely for laughing, but killing them is over the top.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:26 pmand for anyone concerned, I am not a Christian but I am something of a biblical scholar.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:26 pmGee! One would think that Daryll would be afraid his employers might find out about his association with these traitors, unless he just makes stuff up.
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?p=1014220#post1014220
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:27 pmRaptureReady Says:
“…Also, I am only happy because my wife is with child (2 1/2 weeks)…”
CONGRATS, rectal rapture. have you figured out who’s the baby daddy?
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:28 pmYou are welcome, nanlichi. The Old Testament is loaded with weird stuff but that one is one of my favorites.
I also love to chuckle over the apocalyptic stuff John wrote for the New Testament. The man was on serious drugs.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:29 pmLet’s get this out of the way Right Wing trolls. America WANTS socialism. Now go back to church.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:31 pmpete, i clicked on your link and I will be sending you my monthly therapy bill over ron4jesus’ picture.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:32 pmOf course, being a confirmed habitual liar might concern his employers too.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:33 pmMy favorite is the one about touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean. That, and the fact that pro-football is on Sunday. Those guys throwing the pigskin on Sunday are doubly screwed.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:35 pmWow pete, thanks for that link, I guess… had no idea there are that many wackos out there in rapture la la land…
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:39 pmDaryll/Rapture Ready is still a tough call… he is either a very, very clever con artist, or a seriously psychotic individual.
Or both.
Thanks for the link pete. I may have to post a comment or two there to stimulate a conversation. Probably won’t get to the second, but I will try.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:40 pmThen again, if Daryll was really a contractor for the CIA there’s no way in Hell he would be posting on “librul” websites. I grow more and more convinced that Daryll, already a proven liar on many subjects, is actually a janitor for a tent ministry or a rodeo.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:41 pmYou’re welcome, Nevar. Even if most of them are parodies I think that Rapture Ready is a collection of dangerous freaks. I will continue to expose them when it is even remotely topical.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:45 pmI registered over at pete’s website with the name “rectal rapture”. i figure turn around is fair play
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:46 pmTwo years ago Daryll was on the “conceiving a child” and the “working for the government-secret IT” kick.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:46 pmI think he is recycling his older on-line phantasms.
Is it possible to go there and have a little fun?
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:47 pmMaybe pull a Daryll on them?
:)
I’m a little leery of them selling my e-mail address to porn companies….
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:48 pmnanlichi Says:
Thanks for the link pete. I may have to post a comment or two there to stimulate a conversation. Probably won’t get to the second, but I will try.
One would need to be sneaky to pull it off. My account was canceled before my one attempted comment was even posted.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:49 pmIt would be great to see Hagen in charge of an investigation and prosecution of Monica Goodling. Goodling should lose her ability to practice law along with Kyle Sampson and others. Even if Goodling and Sampson dodged the bullet it would be good to see them financially broken mounting a defense – yes, I hate people like Goodling and Sampson.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:53 pmI have tried posting RR links before, I guess you folks are just in the right mood. If you would like to see a collection of their crazier comments try this site. That way you don’t need to wade through so much of the disgusting crap.
http://www.fstdt.com/default.aspx
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:55 pmCan’t wait to see your avatar Bozo. We will be recognizable if we can get past the gatekeeper. I think pete’s right though, they don’t allow dissension.
Actually, it sounds like fun to be a troll for a day, but it makes you feel a little dirty. What kind of sick bastard would hang around all day just to be a troll?
Dynamo? Proud? J. Davis? any clues?
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:00 pmbelac Says:
Ahh, RR? Sen. McConnell has been a Senator since 1984… are you’re not thinking of John ‘Mike’ McConnell not Sen. Mitch McConnell?
Told you he was lying.
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Hoodathunk Says:
Daryl is a closet Jew, or at least a follower of the Old Testament.
Jews tend to be cooler than that. In fact, I’ve known a lot of Jews, and never met one that was into the “wrathful God of destruction” thing at all like the “Christian” biblethumpers are. (more on that later)
All of that “your flesh is vile” crap comes in the later New Testament. That’s excluding the Gospels (Matthew/Mark/Luke/John) which are the only parts in the NT that actually relate what Jesus said and did. Furthermore, most “evangelical/fundamentalists” actually believe in a bunch of things that aren’t even in the bible at all, but come in through Augustine, Calvin, the “Left Behind” books, etc.
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nanlichi Says:
Hoodathunk, I am obviously not an expert on Christianity (some of my best friends are Christians!) and I have heard this separation of the New T. and Old T. to put distance between the vengeful God of the Old and the more peaceful and benign teachings of the New. Now comes the but part…BUT didn’t Jesus acknowledge and validate every whit of the Old T.?
The Jews say no.
Here’s a significant difference: Judaism views most of the Old Testamant as being stories – this happened to this guy, that happened to that guy, whatever – except in the very specific places where a law is handed down from God to everybody: “Thou shalt/not.” That part they take completely seriously. Christian “fundamentalists” take anything that anybody said or did and extrapolate rules and prophecies from it. Which is why you’ll see them posting out-of-context stuff as if it was from God to us, when it’s usually actually one person talking to another in a very limited situation. So you won’t see a Jew, say, suggesting that a disaster was caused by God because people were sinful, because those OT instances are viewed as isolated instances. With the fundies, it’s wide open, and you can extrapolate pretty much anything you want. The more creative the better.
Personally, I think that if someone wanted to call theselves a “fundamentalist Christian,” they should throw out everything but the four Gospels and stick to those. The OT is background, and the later NT is just commentary by bishops of the nascent Catholic church, and should carry no more theological weight than Rick Warren’s book.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:09 pmY’know, I always saw Daryll as self-deluded Christianist (well, truth be told, not always — for a long time I was convinced he was just an internet performance artist putting us all on…) but now I see what a really hateful human being he is.
Really hateful.
It’s kind of ugly.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:09 pm“All I wanted to do was serve this president” Monica Goodling,
an Oral Roberts U grad like Michele Bachmann MN06 and Ted Haggard, Bush2’s 3rd wave coach, is still NOT in jail. In fact she is engaged to a RedStateBlog co-founder. Gruesome. White and pastey is not in. Don’t miss the wicked commentary here.
http://www.abovethelaw.com/2008/02/breaking_monica_goodling_is_en_1.php
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:12 pm“Really hateful.”
It is that exact contradiction between the theology Daryll espouses and the comments he makes; that suggest to me he is simply a clever con artist.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:15 pmI think I’ve got Rapture Ready’s formula:
socialism = communism = fascism = Islam = terrorist = Satan’s Fantastic Army = gay
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:15 pmElBruce Says:
Personally, I think that if someone wanted to call theselves a “fundamentalist Christian,” they should throw out everything but the four Gospels
Sort of what like Constantine did at Nicea. “Ok, boys, I’m putting together an empire here. Give me a book I can do it with.’
I do agree with you though. And I did apologize. The Jews I know are real rational decent folks. Like the Christians who avoid the hate speak.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:19 pmGotta keep those urinals secure…..
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:19 pmAre you the little red-eye motion detector specialist?
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:20 pmwiley Says:
I think I’ve got Rapture Ready’s formula:
socialism = communism = fascism = Islam = terrorist = Satan’s Fantastic Army = gay = socialism = communism = fascism = Islam = terrorist = Satan’s Fantastic Army = gay and so on ad infintitum.
Circular logic is so entertaining.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:21 pmMy apologies. Mike McConnell, not Mitch.
You didn’t say Mitch McConnel the first time, o thou font of false witness…
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:25 pmHi Rapture Ready;
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:31 pmHow are you? Still all nudie and such? Doesn’t it bug you that that bullshit cold no snacks arial ascention never happens? I would be pissed if I was you. Somebody done there fooled you with that whole crap
You really give true followers of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth a bad name, Daryll.
You portray a self-serving promulgator of greed, bigotry, and discord.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:32 pmWhich I believe to be your intent.
Which makes you truly evil.
I guess this Daryll bashing is symbiotic: it gives the rest of the posters a stress-relieving punching bag, while allowing D-bag to indulge his persecution complex.
But I am a sadist, and so, refuse to strike him.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:33 pmYay!
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:36 pmI would be pissed if I was you.
They keep moving the ETD farther into the future. Just Daryll’s luck, it’ll happen a week after he’s dead, so there’ll be no empty suit at the job as evidence of his ascention.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:40 pmRaptureReady Says: “I apologize, I had the day off to celebrate my promotion.”
That’s rectal rapture code for pink slip from arby’s
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:41 pmRaptureReady Says:
I apologize, I had the day off to celebrate my promotion.
Ah heh… It’s a bit awkward that I have be the one to break this to you: when they send you home, that’s not really a “promotion.”
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barfly Says:
I guess this Daryll bashing is symbiotic: it gives the rest of the posters a stress-relieving punching bag, while allowing D-bag to indulge his persecution complex.
I’ve often thought that TP trolls have a masochistic streak. I’ve tried, but I can’t really stick it out over in Right Blogistan, so I can’t really understand what makes them keep coming back for more over here.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:45 pmFrom the ‘08 article:
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‘Even Worse Than Being a Democrat’
Goodling’s conversation with Scott focused on whether Republican Party loyalty factored into her hiring decisions. But by all accounts, Hagen was a GOP loyalist.
So, what was Goodling’s problem with Hagen?
The Justice Department’s inspector general is looking into whether Hagen was dismissed after a rumor reached Goodling that Hagen is a lesbian.
As one Republican source put it, “To some people, that’s even worse than being a Democrat.”
There’s that big republican tent! Doesn’t matter how fervently you support them, if you’re on the lesbian list.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:58 pmI’ve tried, but I can’t really stick it out over in Right Blogistan, so I can’t really understand what makes them keep coming back for more over here.
They are working on their rhetorical kung fu. Most days, it’s more like kung pao.
backup seems to fancy himself an aikido student;
JOHN KERRY, more the sucker-punching-someone-in-church type;
Daryll, the Righteous Rocky, trying to punch his way out of the corner, and getting hammered until he can barely stand.
February 3rd, 2009 at 7:07 pmWow, a man, Manning-up. A gentleman posed like a Gentleman. Wow, a president being Presidential.
repugs eat your black hearts out.
HAHAHAHAHA
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:21 pm“How about we allow you to be a slave for the government because you refuse to be independent. Socialism is communism.”
Well, no. Socialism is socialism, and works fairly well as a form of government in several European countries that have a higher standard of living than most parts of the United States.
Communism is a dead form of government that even China has abandoned.
You probably shouldn’t participate in blogs that discuss government if you cannot tell the difference. I understand “communist” and “socialist” are just name-calling tools for you, but you’re embarrassing yourself in front of people who actually understand what’s going on.
February 4th, 2009 at 12:07 amRR, if YOU were the only example of a “Christian” available to me, I’d be an atheist.
No one in his/her right mind could POSSIBLY want to become acquainted with your spiteful, selfish, erratic, cruel, rigid, hateful, scornful, bullying, and unloving god.
The god in the Bible bears NO relation to your god, the god you evidence by your actions, accusations, egomania, hatred of fellow humans, and attitudes.
February 4th, 2009 at 12:42 amJust look at the credentials of the lawyers. Many of them are graduates of the lowest ranked law school. Liberty Law. It was started by the evangelist Falwell I think. Monica Goodling is the example of what it takes to graduate from that school. This example of the law had no idea of the Constitution or her place in the government. She said her loyalty was to President Bush. Till one of the committee had to tell her, it was not. Her loyalty was supposed to be to the law and the Constitution.
What many of those lawyers in Justice believe is in ideology. And that is what happened to Justice. It became persecution by ideology and not the law. The hammer of the law was used to bash the ideological opposites of Republicans. Many of the lawyers in the Dept of Justice are political toads. The good ones got fired.
February 4th, 2009 at 12:47 am.
Oh now come on, Monica was just being the good Loyalist she was paid to be…
… Along with that oath to serve the Bush and not the Nation.
Why else would she project her fears about homosexuality upon a competitive female if she wasn’t secure about her own Bushy?
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February 4th, 2009 at 3:05 am.
However…
… None dared to call it TREASON!
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February 4th, 2009 at 3:08 amRupturedRetard. You are just an ignorant brainwashed moron who spouts talking points without even knowing what they mean. The Limborg programs you and you regurgitate this kind of abject stupidity like a demented propagnda parrot
February 4th, 2009 at 7:48 amRupturedRetard
Too happy to be deterred.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
YOU are too stupid to be believed
February 4th, 2009 at 7:49 amRupturedRetard
YOU are a slave and too stupid to know it. You are a brainwashed moron who does the bidding of those a whole lot smarter than you and who have no decency. Something you share with them. You are ignorant. You are a hater, a bigot and a stupid piece of garbage. The world is lucky that the grown-ups are in charge now and stupid punks like you are no longer relevant.
February 4th, 2009 at 7:52 amRapture Ready here is a Muslim, masquerading as a Christian.
February 4th, 2009 at 12:14 pmHe’s ignorant of the Bible, and called Jesus a prophet–which is the belief of Islam.
His persistent obnoxious trolling is a Muslim plot to sully the reputation of Christianity.
Notice his scurrilous portrayal of a Christian as smug, glorying in his own wealth, trumpeting his own importance.
Just another piece of Muslim psyops aimed at destroying America.
To barfly: It’s true.
Well before joining DOJ, Hagen was a very loyal Republican. What was done to her, IN THE NAME OF RUMOR, is wrong in every sense of the word. Anyone who has an opinion about it must speak up. The next time around, it really could be you in the rumor target. It could be me. Remember that.
February 9th, 2009 at 9:43 pm