As Economy Sheds 600,000 Jobs In One Month, Senate Conservatives Ask: What’s The Rush?
As Economy Sheds 600,000 Jobs In One Month, Senate Conservatives Ask: What’s The Rush?
Today, the Labor Department reported that the economy lost 598,000 jobs in January, the worst monthly jobs loss since 1974. 1.8 million jobs have been lost in the last three months alone, and U.S. unemployment now stands at 7.6 percent, the highest in nearly two decades.
While President Obama and congressional Democrats are pushing for a recovery and reinvestment plan that the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office predicts would create up to 3.6 million jobs by next year, Republicans are stonewalling action to help the economy recover. Even as millions of Americans are losing their jobs, conservative Senators insist that there’s no rush to help them:
LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): We do not need any more news conferences. What we need is getting more than 16 people in a room. We need to slow down, take a timeout, and get it right.
ROGER WICKER (R-MS): As Thomas Jefferson reminded Americans in his day — and I quote — “Delay is preferable to error.” Let’s not rush into doing this the wrong way.
JOHN ENSIGN (R-NV): So we need to act much more responsibly than this bill acts. It’s still time. There is no hurry.
TOM COBURN (R-OK): There’s no reason for us to hurry up, number one. There’s no reason for us not to look at every area of this bill and make sure the american people know about it.
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Speaking to House Democrats last night, Obama emphasized that the soaring jobless rates “aren’t just statistics”; they’re real people who are counting on Washington to reinvest in America’s economic future — and to do it now:
[T]hese aren’t just statistics. This is not a game. This is not a contest for who’s in power and who’s up and who’s down. These are your constituents. These are families you know and you care about. [...]
We’re not moving quickly because we’re trying to jamb something down people’s throats. We’re moving quickly because we’re told that if we don’t move quickly, that the economy is going keep on getting worse, and we’ll have another 2 or 3 or 4 million jobs loss this year.
I’d love to be leisurely about this. … We’re not doing this because we think this is a lark. We’re doing this because people are counting on us.
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Jeebus! What does it take for these phuckwads to see we’re in one hell of a mess?
If we were losing 3 million jobs a month, the Rethugs wouldn’t bat an eye.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:08 amMemo to Sen. Whicker: just a note to remind you that Delay was a mistake. So is McConnell, Kyl, McCain, Graham and all of the rest of you obstructionist conservatives. Get with the program or get out of the way.
signed: the 57,000,000 voters
February 6th, 2009 at 10:09 amThe Republicans are trying to say that none of the problems of the last eight years are their fault and that they possess no responsibilities for the situation the country is in now. What’s even more brazenly shameful, on their part, is to claim that the same ideological failings, that led to an economic situation approaching the Great Depression in severity, is the only solution to the problems that a fanatical adherence to these beliefs caused.
Unfettered negligent free market cultists led to this economic crisis we are all facing now. The GOP are dominated by it’s worshipers. Anything less than pure doctrinal loyalty is, in their paranoid selfish eyes, socialism.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:09 amObama rocked last night! If the republicans are squealing, he’s doing something right.
Did anyone catch the clip of Boxer calling Lindsey Graham a drama queen? It was hilarious.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:11 amI really wish President Obama could start laying THEM off. Perhaps, then they’d finally get the urgency here.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:11 am3.6 million Americans (and counting) strongly disagree with the sentiments of the American Taliban Party.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:12 amBREAKING NEWS…….7.6% unemployment.
So when are they going to start telling the truth?
February 6th, 2009 at 10:13 amWell, Republicans have always been the “I got mine” party…
February 6th, 2009 at 10:13 amROGER WICKER (R-MI): As Thomas Jefferson reminded Americans in his day — and I quote — “Delay is preferable to error.” Let’s not rush into doing this the wrong way.
Jefferson was the Father of the Democratic Party – I hardly think he would have agreed with you. After all, he partly wrote the Constitution!
February 6th, 2009 at 10:15 amObama is “fired up and ready to go”. His efforts to engage the republicans and find a bipartisan solution has been admirable. At some time soon, however, it will be time to call the question and leave the seedy minority party behind. The stakes are too high to allow their political motives to get in the way of doing the right thing.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:15 amBobwurst Says: Obama rocked last night! If the republicans are squealing, he’s doing something right.
That was another amazing speech. I’m sure the American people, who approve of President Obama by nearly 80%, were moved. Unfortunately, the Republican Taliban cannot be moved by anything except their own greed.
I think we’re gonna see even less Republicans in 2012, and they still won’t get it.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:18 amWhy must we move quickly?
All the major Banks on Wall St. are seeing mounting losses and the failure of one will increase the losses of the other. They are joined at the hip and will fall like a house of cards.
Our government is covering this up. There is no way they want us to know the extent of the bad paper in the banks. This is so much worse than 1930’s. Over 600 trillion in derivatives out there. Look at that number once again. 600 trillion. Now do your math.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:22 amI’ve said it before. Obama and the Dems are making a huge mistake in handling the Re-thugs. The Re-thugs learned their politics at the knees of the likes of Newt Gingrich and Tom Delay. They have no respect for the hand held out in bipartisanship (remember they call it “date-rape”). Any Dem who does had better be prepared to draw back a bloody stump. No, the only way to gain respect and cooperation from those thugs is a fast punch in the face. Then let them mull over where the power is for a minute before offering them a hand up off the floor. Obama MUST deal with them from a demonstrated position of strength, or they will think he’s just another weak-kneed Democrat ala Harry Reid, and run right over him. It’s not pretty. It just is.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:24 amAnd how stuck are we with ol’ Harry, anyway?
February 6th, 2009 at 10:26 amconniptionfit Says: I’ve said it before. Obama and the Dems are making a huge mistake in handling the Re-thugs.
I think you could be underestimating his strategy here.
He’s shown them inclusion, and this is how they behave? Well, now, he’s showing them that he’s not going to tolerate their antics. He slammed them in that speech last night.
He’s been gracious, and they’ve peed on the rug. Who will the American people support? Obama. Hands down.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:27 amMeanwhile, in their districts, the newly unemployed are sharpening their axes, knives, pitchforks, making torches.
I would love to see these asshats tell an assembled crowd of laid-off workers there is no need to rush. They would not leave there alive.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:28 amWe’re doing this because people are counting on us.
Well 80% of the people. There are 20% of the people who believe the government shouldn’t be counted on at all. Right Tim43, TimmyV, Lush, Daryll…..?
February 6th, 2009 at 10:28 am“As Economy Sheds 600,000 Jobs In One Month, Senate Conservatives Ask: What’s The Rush?”
BINGO! We have our sarcastic winner.
Why the rush, indeed, when you’re guaranteed your job, paid 6 figures with health and other benefits.
Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands are without employment, without health care, some soon to be without food and shelter.
It’s the mentality of “we’ve got ours, screw the rest”.
I hope and pray that those in the red states that voted for these mucking forons are paying attention.
(normally, my blood pressure stays well controlled, but man, these fcking idiot Republican Senators have angered me to no end.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:28 amThe AMERICAN PEOPLE mandated change! LET ME REPEAT: CHANGE!!! Take that you Rush fellating arseholes and shove it where the sun don’t shine!)
conniptionfit Says: And how stuck are we with ol’ Harry, anyway?
Harry’s got to go. Pelosi got the bill through the House of Reps very quickly, without tolerating the Republicans very much. Why cannot Reid do the same? He has the votes to get it passed.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:29 amMy apologies for my profanity laden post, but when you see the unemployment rate here in Michigan reach staggering heights, and nothing gets done, it makes me break from my normal composure.
I think about the kids not eating, the families not sheltered, the moms and dads stressing each and every day of what to do, and it makes my blood boil.
And these fcking CONservatives DON’T CARE!
And that pisses me off!
February 6th, 2009 at 10:31 amIt looks like the Repuyblicans are working hard to make Thrush “I hope Obama fails” Rimjob’s wish come true.
Rush Limbaugh is indeed the de facto “intellectual” leader of the GOP.
I’m glad to see Obama is finally starting to fight back but it isn’t enough–the Democratic representatives and senators need to do the same.
The mass media is still overwhelmingly at the service of the Republicans and the Dems need to make every moment of air-time count…. they need to fight, not simply debate(as though the Republican ‘arguments’ have any merit).
The bipartisan overture has run its (unnecessary) horribly naive and mistaken course. Democrats have the power to pull this country out of the ditch without the ‘help’ of the Republicans.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:32 amWhat, nothing from their leaders? How does Joe tthe Economist feel? this’ll make Limbaugh’s go back on “pain killers” and poor Graham got the effen’ vapors yesterday, all in all a good day!
February 6th, 2009 at 10:32 amI wish there was a way that these asshats would be derived for a month or two of such necessities as paychecks, use of credit cards and utilities and transportation, then be on the receiving end of calls from collection agencies and others.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:33 amI don’t think they’d like it very much.
DRxJ Says: And that pisses me off!
No need to apologize – we’re right there with you. This is appalling no matter how you look at it, and every American should be just as angry.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:33 amMitch Mcconnell is has a new toy! And the know-nothing rethugs are playin’ with it! It goes like this: If you spent a million dollars every day since Jesus was born, you STILL wouldn’t have a Trillion dollars!
February 6th, 2009 at 10:34 amThis commenter on TPM has it right and has the penultimate comeback:
“Senator McConnell is flaunting his economic ignorance because if you started the day Jesus was born and created TWENTY million dollars in wealth every day you would have the wealth created in the US economy each year. AND if you flushed TWO million dollars down the toilet every day since Jesus was born you would have the credit losses in the US economy just last year. AND if you flushed THREE million a day, you would have lost less than the money that this recession is projected to cost by the end of next year. We no longer measure boats by cubits and we should not design economic stimulus based on a Jesus’ birthday, so will the Minority Leader please either engage in a serious talk about economic policy or step aside and let the adults handle it?”
Thank you, and sorry for the theft.
I think we need to start an online petition. I bet we could have several million signatures in one weeks time. Even backwaters want to keep their jobs.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:39 amDoes anyone know how to start one?
unbelievable: Who will the American people support? Obama. Hands down.
So one would expect.
Except that public support really only has an effect during elections.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:44 amIf Obama and the Democrats keep acting like they don’t have public support, they will lose it.
And if they keep acting like they need Republicans more than they need public support, they will lose again.
If, having been given the power to govern, they FAIL to govern, then they will lose–and then we all lose.
conniptionfit Says:
But, but Mitch said not to worry. The Repubs are working on their very own stimulus package which they hope to begin rolling out sometime in the upcoming months. Take your time, Mitch. No hurry. Let me guess, the Regressive’s plan will be laden with ineffective tax cuts, cost about three times what Obama’s plan would cost, and benefit big business and the wealthy. Am I on the right track, Mitch? Mitch?
February 6th, 2009 at 10:45 amDRxJ; I know where you’re coming from. I’m in Michigan too, and when I see a thread like this, it makes me want to explode. I’m no less guilty than you.
Stress: The confusion created in one’s mind when you resist the urge to reach out and choke the living shit out choke the living shit out of some asshole who desparately needs it.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:46 amI think that it’s time for another Reaganville to be erected on the National Mall. I would be willing to cough up a hundred bucks to help buy bus tickets for the unemployed people to travel to D.C. and camp out in front of the Senate Office Building. Just imagine 3.6 million angry out of work citizens in one place. The obstructionist members of the Limbaugh Party would soil their silk underwear. The time for endless debate has passed. It’s now time for some old-fashioned grassroots political activisim, ie: street demonstrations, civil disobedience, sit-ins, etc. Where are the campus leaders of the ’60’s, who have the experience and know-how to organize these things? Probably, they’ve all gone corporate. Too bad.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:47 amlet me rephrase that;
Stress: the confusion created in one’s mind when you resist the urge to reach out and choke the living sh!t out of some a$$whole who desparately needs it.
Fed up in Michigan
February 6th, 2009 at 10:47 amObama is right, people voted for change. If tax cuts (the Republicans only solution) worked we would all be rolling in clover right now! Republican solutions don’t work!
February 6th, 2009 at 10:49 amThese repugnant a$$wipes don’t feel a sense of urgency because they’re not hurting for cash. They don’t know what it’s like to be unemployed, homeless or hungry. These repugnant republicans have no clue and neither do they give a shyte about it. If Graham, Coburn, Wicker, or Ensign had to go through being unemployed or underemployed their attitude would be different. These rat bastards should all burn slowly in hell!
February 6th, 2009 at 10:49 amGiven the stakes, Congressman Wicker should consider the appropriateness of Jefferson’s warning that “Delay is preferable to error”. He should also note that Jefferson was the president who—when informed of Napoleon’s offer to sell the Louisiana Territory—did not say, “Hmmm. We’ll think it over, take a close look at our budget, form a committee, and get back to you when we’re good and ready.” Instead, he moved quickly to nail down what has been called the greatest land deal in history.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:51 amThey didn’t hesitate to bail out the investment banks and the insurance companies, they didn’t hesitate to pass the Patriot Act….
February 6th, 2009 at 10:58 amROGER WICKER (R-MS): As Thomas Jefferson reminded Americans in his day — and I quote — “Delay is preferable to error.” Let’s not rush into doing this the wrong way.
JOHN ENSIGN (R-NV): So we need to act much more responsibly than this bill acts. It’s still time. There is no hurry.
TOM COBURN (R-OK): There’s no reason for us to hurry up, number one. There’s no reason for us not to look at every area of this bill and make sure the american people know about it.
Right on! Now that the Bush Administration gave away trillions to the financial industry without oversight or accountability, there’s no rush to help the very taxpayers who must foot the bill.
Besides, the longer Republicans string this out, the worse it gets, and they will blame Obama. After all, he didn’t give in to their call to make permanent tax cuts for the uber rich the centerpiece of the economic stimulus package.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:59 amHmmmm, looks like the moderation on my post @ 10:46 has been lifted.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:01 amUncle Ho Says:
Meanwhile, in their districts, the newly unemployed are sharpening their axes, knives, pitchforks, making torches.
I would love to see these asshats tell an assembled crowd of laid-off workers there is no need to rush. They would not leave there alive.
The repugs understand two sorts of “rush”:
1. The ignorant pederast who pontificates on hate radio;
February 6th, 2009 at 11:03 am2. the speed with which they are disavowing ANY responsibility for the horrors of the last 8 years.
GOP = TERRORIST ORGANIZATION.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:04 amlivelongandprosper Says:
We’re doing this because people are counting on us.
Well 80% of the people. There are 20% of the people who believe the government shouldn’t be counted on at all. Right Tim43, TimmyV, Lush, Daryll…..?
Are you neglecting Proud and RaptureReady? Shame! [or perhaps they are all the same spiteful spewer.]
February 6th, 2009 at 11:05 amI don’t think the Republican party legislators, and the Wall Street CEOs who prop them up, have a clue about just how angry the American populace is growing over their whining and posturing as they try to maintain their gluttonous lifestyles.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:08 amThey may be in for a very rude awakening when they are aroused some night to a street full of torches and pitchforks.
DRxJ Says: Take that, you Rush fellating arseholes and shove it where the sun don’t shine!
Piquant turn of phrase, there, DRxJ–coffee on my monitor again. But I must question a bit of your logic: since the Repug mind ALREADY dwells largely “where the sun don’t shine,” whoyagonnacall? ASSBUSTERS!
February 6th, 2009 at 11:09 amThese smarmy jerks are much more interested in taking that extra time with this and looking so closely at it than they were in taking the extra time and looking closely at their pre-invasion intelligence and their handing of the hatchet to their highly respectable non-president.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:10 amWhat’s your solution, gopny?
February 6th, 2009 at 11:10 amHmmm. Didn’t Osama bin Laden say that he wanted to bring America to it’s knees?
Well, he has – with the help of the Republican Party.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:11 amGraham doesn’t see the rush as he’s from the state with the motto “Thank God for Mississippi” ?
February 6th, 2009 at 11:12 amunbelievable Says:
ROGER WICKER (R-MI): As Thomas Jefferson reminded Americans in his day — and I quote — “Delay is preferable to error.” Let’s not rush into doing this the wrong way.
Jefferson was the Father of the Democratic Party – I hardly think he would have agreed with you. After all, he partly wrote the Constitution!
This one I just cannot allow to pass.
If you know anything, anything at all about Thomas Jefferson’s philosophy of government, then you know damn well he is spinning like a turbine in his grave at this bill passing through Congress. Jefferson would be a radical Libertarian in today’s political millieu.
Also – Andrew Jackson founded the modern Democratic Party.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:13 amThe Republicans deliberately tried to conceal how farked-up the economy was from us during the last election. Remember John “The fundamentals of the economy are strong” McCain? He was saying THAT as late as July of last year.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:13 amAdmittedly, the Wall Street Bailout was rushed through without control or thought (kind of like the Commander and Chief that engineered it). We need to spend money where it is going to have effect. and perhaps Congress actually sees its mistake on the Wall Street debacle.
At the same time, things ARE urgent and have to be pushed through. Obama has been quite generous in trying to work with everyone only to be met with obstructionist tactics.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:14 amIt’s very simple really. For the republicans to admit that we are on the brink of collapse would be for them to admit they have been the cause of it for the past eight years and they will never admit to this. Selective memory and denial runs rampant in the republican party.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:18 amgopny
You had your chance, you failed……own it. Sucks to be you.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:18 amgopny, how about we deport all republicans instead.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:19 amGopny
Wasn’t the money that went to the wall street and bailed out their corruption a terrible burden on tax payers? It’s about paybacks to trial lawyers and unions? WTF. If your lucky you’ll never need a lawyer and as for unions, our country wouldn’t be in such a mess if Reagan didn’t see fit to start breaking them. Repealing constitutional rights to Americans – you’ve got that confused with the reppublcans actions of the past eight years.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:19 amAethism and religion? Are you kidding me? Look what the religious fanatics have done to this country. And last but not least, killing babies. Oh my god are you off the deep end. I really don’t think you’ll find anyone at TP that has any idea what your talking about.
Yeah, Goopy, that’d work.
Starve children, let old people die, and spend a whole bunch of money rounding up, imprisoning and deporting people who would not only cripple the agribusiness in states like California and Texas — but they’d come right back anyway.
You are ignorant. Truly. You just aren’t smart enough to post here. Get back under your bed, you moron.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:20 amgopny Says: “Cut Scohool aid by 15%”
LOL
We’d better not cut aid to your school district any further….
Thanks for the best laugh I’ve had in a long time!
February 6th, 2009 at 11:24 amgopny Says:
this bill is not about stimulating the economy. its all about opening the door to socialism, and the undoing of america, the getting 20 million illegal aliens on medicare, welfare and giving them a vote.
its about saddling future generations with a terrible tax burden.
its about paybacks to unions and trial lawyers.
its about repealing constitutional rights to legal americans.
its about pushing forth atheism and bashing religion.
its about killing babies.
Thank God that we have gooperknee to explain this proposal! And all this time, I’ve thought it was about promoting democracy [government BY CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED]; rebuilding America; opening a way for would-be residents of the US to become viable and productive parts of the economy; easing the terrible burden of debt with which THIS generation is already saddled and which could continue for decades; stopping the overpay to industries and banks who have received bailouts; giving unions a chance to fulfill their purpose [the trial lawyers will have enough to do prosecuting the crimes perpetrated by gooperknee and his ilk]; PROTECTING the Constitutional rights of “legal Americans” from Patriot Act trashing of the last 8 years; ensuring freedom of religion; educating people about birth control–that’s CONTRACEPTION, gooperknee, PREVENTING rather than ending pregnancy–what your mother should have practiced. . . silly me. I thought the plan was intended to RESTORE the US to Constitutional guidance after 8 years of violation.
Thanks, gooperknee. Now go away. And take your repug friends with you.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:25 amgopny Says:
My solution:
Suspend the payroll tax for two years
Cut Welfare Spending by 25%
Cut Medicaid Spending by 25%
Cut Scohool aid by 15%
We will then have a 700 billion dollar surplus
Reduce entitlement program spending
deport all illegal aliens.
I’ll just bet you would, pissant. But you lost. Go fcuk yourself.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:27 am“i hope the economy tanks in the next 2 years”
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The mighty O needs to take all of the pay from every last CEO in the Fortune 500 and distribute it to health care, the homeless, students, libraries, food banks, etc… No more Big Financial bailouts.
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February 6th, 2009 at 11:29 amThese “conservatives” rushed to approve a bill to bail out Wall Street and now that Main Street needs help, they say “what’s the hurry?” These are the same folks that rushed into an illegal war and rushed to fund this illegal war. How unpatriotic of these Republics.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:30 amMy solution:
February 6th, 2009 at 11:30 amLegalize and tax prostitution and marijuana. Tax the hell out of soda. Problem solved and less diabetes and fat little kids as a pleasant byproduct
gopny Says: “…deport all illegal aliens.”
Are you having a hard time finding a job?
February 6th, 2009 at 11:30 amgopny Says:
My solution:
Suspend the payroll tax for two years
Cut Welfare Spending by 25%
Cut Medicaid Spending by 25%
Cut Scohool aid by 15%
Obviously, “scohool” aid was cut during your formative years. Cutting welfare and Medicaid spending will kill adults as well as “killing babies”–but that doesn’t bother you?
Of course not. You prefer to see the US spend billions to kill ARAB babies. They’re not human, right?
You complacent, hate-filled, egomaniacal bastard!
February 6th, 2009 at 11:31 amThe wealthy don’t give a Sh*t if there is a depression or deep recession because everything (real estate, companies,labor etc.) will become real cheap and they can buy at rock bottom prices and wait for the upturn.
Is this whom the republicans are representing???? No wonder their party is in shambles.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:33 amI’m kind of surprised by the “suggestion” that the solution is to a) cut welfare programs (what will those who can’t find a job live on?) and b) deport all aliens so US workers can take the jobs (long term effect of locking US workers in extremely low wage jobs).
Oh well, if the poor are gonna die, they’d better do so quickly and decrease the surplus population. (There’s an idea, cure the joblessness by releasing smallpox!)
February 6th, 2009 at 11:33 amRepublicans ask “What’s the Rush?”
I’m surprised they have to ask. The Rush is a big fat lying blowhard, the emblem of a failed political movement.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:33 amHey, GOP Pony, how long is it supposed to take before we see the prosperity that was supposed to arrive with the last round of tax cuts?
I’d have thought eight years would be enough time. No?
So your new proposals for cutting taxes (and vital services for the massive numbers of unemployed we now see) — will they take eight more years to bring us prosperity?
“Cause I’m thinking that might not be quick enough.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:34 amThe rethuglicans are afraid of Obama having success because it is just more proof that they were failures. The rethuglican party is the reason we are in the shape we are in and they are the ones who are doing everything in their power to stall any recovery because they are more interested in obstruction than they are doing what is right. These thugs are not worth the positions they have been entrusted.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:36 amKeltoi says:
If you know anything, anything at all about Thomas Jefferson’s philosophy of government, then you know damn well he is spinning like a turbine in his grave at this bill passing through Congress. Jefferson would be a radical Libertarian in today’s political millieu.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:37 amYou know, if Jefferson is “spinning like a turbine in his grave”, he’s probably been doing it since 2001, when chimpy decided to start giving away our nations wealth to the already wealthy and privileged through tax cuts they didn’t need. His RPM’s would have increased noticeably when chimpy decided to sacrifice the blood of our sons and daughters in unnecessary wars to enrich defense contractors. I’m guessing that after these miserable long years of rethuglican abuse, there’s not much left of Thomas, maybe just a tibia ricocheting around inside his coffin.
Um, the Regan Revolution (heaven forbid we touch the sacred Regan)of tax cuts is over!!!
February 6th, 2009 at 11:40 amYou know, if McCain had won, ridiculous measures such as ‘gopny’ suggests would probably be what they would have enacted.
I’m becoming convinced that they were planning on using this crisis to overhaul government spending, but, Obama got in the way. They knew it was coming.
We saw how gleefully the Bush admin took advantage of 9/11 after all.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:40 amreleasing smallpox is a bad idea. It is a little random, takes too long, and may end up spreading to unwanted sectors.
Better plan is to simply gun down the homeless. A few fly-by’s over tent cities, dropping some “surgical strike” type armaments.
Better yet, round them all up (man, woman, and child), and use them a live target practice training for the military, so they are better prepared to do battle. Repugs are ONLY concerned with the ’sanctity of life” when it is in the womb — so the “man, woman, and child” bit would not bother them at all. Add to that the repugs LOVE of seeing people killed by munitions and military actions, and you have the repug wet dream.
That would eliminate homelessness, reduce poverty, reduce overpopulation, and overall help to stimulate the economy.
Kill ‘em all, and let the ‘Flying Baloney Sandwich in the Sky’ sort ‘em out.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:42 amGO Pony must be freebasing that koolaid.
He thinks tese programs cost $700 billion. He must have pulled that amount right out of Rush’s a$$. But it’s your plan genius, show us a link that shows this kind of money goes to these programs.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:44 amgopny:
You are one of those who are what is wrong with this country. You are one who helped elect W Bush two time, you listen to a drug addled gas bag, and you hate America. Go to another site.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:45 amSo, GOP Pony, you’re saying that Bush didn’t enact ANY tax cuts in his eight years in office?
You really wanna stick with that story?
February 6th, 2009 at 11:47 amIllegal aliens pay payroll taxes usually under phony social security numbers so they never get anything back from them. It’s just free money to the rest of us.
And the Bronx like many working class areas had good schools back then because there were factories around that paid taxes. Well guess what, Einstein, all the factories are gone.
Everybody has a right to be stupid but you are abusing the privilege today.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:51 amYet no one bothered to read the Patriot Act before it was foisted on the public.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:54 amgopny Says:
I grew up in the bronx in the 1960s and the schools were the best, no illegal immigrants. no welfare students. went to the bronx high school of science. great school. i started to see the change in the 1970s under your failed jimmycarter ahole. thats when the ruination of this country began.
goop, thanks for showing all of us here that the Great Society worked. You went to school, like most of us, when Americans understood that a great country was something we needed to pay for. We all got a great education, because we all bought the best schools in the world. But education didn’t go downhill under Jimmy Carter. It went downhill under Reagan. In my state it was Deukmejian who began carving millions out of school budgets year after year after year, followed by Pete Wilson who continued the process for years beyond that. The schools my children go to now are a shadow of what they were when their parents were there. DEMOCRATS BUILD SCHOOLS, and like they do everything else, REPUKES TEAR THEM DOWN AND THEN BLAME SOMETHING ELSE.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:55 amI agree absolutely. I think the wealthy are sitting on their money like spiders in a web waiting to pounce. They happy the value of regular peoples assets are going in the toilet so they can buy up everything in sight and end up richer than ever while the middle class disappears.
I’m convinced more every day that nothing will stop these greedy bastards and eventually they will drive us to a revolution if Obama is unable to stop them now.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:55 amPay attention, people, this is an excellent illustration of a primary troll technique: scattershot stupidity. Our lovely assistant GOP Pony has offered us a melange of falsities here, hoping to draw fire in several different directions, thus dissipating its effect. For instance, if one pushes back on both the absurdity that Bush didn’t enact tax cuts, on;y “tax rebates” during his disastrous presidency and that Jimmy Carter somehow changed the direction of this nation from that established by conservative icon Richard Nixon and caretaker Gerry Ford, then the impact of either retort will be diminished.
On the other hand, if we push back only on the foolishness of Bush’s non-tax cuts and ignore the foolishness of “your failed jimmycarter ahole. thats when the ruination of this country began” then that bit of intellectual flotsam has a chance of slipping through the lines undetected.
It’s a clever strategy, really. Too bad the strategy is the only thing about the comment that’s clever. Clever strategy works best when married to sound execution. It doesn’t look like that’s something we have to worry about from GOP Pony.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:57 ammarlow Says:
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Keltoi says:
If you know anything, anything at all about Thomas Jefferson’s philosophy of government, then you know damn well he is spinning like a turbine in his grave at this bill passing through Congress. Jefferson would be a radical Libertarian in today’s political millieu.
You know, if Jefferson is “spinning like a turbine in his grave”, he’s probably been doing it since 2001, when chimpy decided to start giving away our nations wealth to the already wealthy and privileged through tax cuts they didn’t need. His RPM’s would have increased noticeably when chimpy decided to sacrifice the blood of our sons and daughters in unnecessary wars to enrich defense contractors. I’m guessing that after these miserable long years of rethuglican abuse, there’s not much left of Thomas, maybe just a tibia ricocheting around inside his coffin.
A sad image, though one I agree with completely vis Bush’s Presidency. Truth be told, Jefferson would probably not understand what became of us that we had not revolted long ago. Philosophically, we would in all likelihood had backed secession in 1860. And he sure as hell would have advocated armed insurection with the passage of the Income Tax in 1913.
No, I don’t think any of the Framers would be too happy with us. I think even Alexander Hamilton would be shocked at the power and profligacy of the Federal Government.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:57 amDamn ralph, I like it. I like it alot. Maybe we can coauthor a scholarly piece in the future when I am done my present project.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:01 pmbest-
GOP Ponyboy (does your real name end with the letter “Gannon”?) is JUST saying that ANY proposal by dems and specifically Obama are useless programs that need to be rejected outright on principle. NO plan presented by a dem or Obama is going to work simply because it was conceived by a dem.
Remember, folks — this is a GAME!!!! Wheeeeeee!!!!! And it is ALL about whose team wins and whose team loses. The republicans are on the defense this quarter, but you know the old addage: the best defence is a good offence.
See, if the dems get a bill passed, then that is a score for them, so the republicans have to bolster their defensive line and block all possible passage to the goal posts (its harder for them to move the posts around nowadays, as they are not in charge of the field).
GO TEAM!!!!!!!!!!
The republican party is a party of admitted traitors to America and to the Constitution. They will obsruct on partizn lines. They will accept measures with ONLY 100% of their ideas or none at all. They will obsruct as political manuvers, playing politics with an unprecedented national crisis (FAR worse that 9/11). And they have chosen to pattern their political ploys after the Taliban. Nice.
The party of traitors, hoping for the complete failure of America.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:02 pmI would be honored, dbaddass.
Perhaps we can co-present some symposia at various conferences?
February 6th, 2009 at 12:04 pmDidn’t Bush dodge the immigration issue and ultimantely came up with a lame half baked policy??
For one thing certain business needed illegal (guest worker or whatever you want to call them) to keep costs down and profits up.
There is the slaughterhouse industry where the union labor was gutted and illegal immigrants were/are being used so we can enjoy cheap meat in fast food restaurants as one example.
Farm labor in general have kept our produce costs down for years.
Another would be the construction industry (semi skilled and laborers).
The problem isn’t so simple as just getting rid of illegals.
Unless we are willing to pay a higher price for labor, and therefore creating an inflationary situation in a recession?
February 6th, 2009 at 12:06 pmPerhaps your speculation is well grounded, perhaps not.
I suspect that Jefferson would be too busy being transfixed Beyoncé videos on that strange box with moving pictures to worry about what has become of his invention of these United States.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:09 pmsquidbilly, you make excellent sense.
I’m afraid we’ll have to deduct a few points, however, for taking seriously the drivel that our lovely assistant GOP Pony tried to sell.
Still, from a disaster like GOP pony’s comment can come something useful, like your post.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:11 pmDang ralph, I got a visual of that and it certainly had me laughing.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:21 pmIf these MFs know so much, why is the US economy in its current condition? [crickets] Anyone?
February 6th, 2009 at 12:23 pmThe only disagreement I have with you squidbilly is that the big corporate agribusinesses and construction companies didn’t employ this cheep labor to keep inflation down. They used it to keep their profits up.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:24 pmYeah, no need to hurry as long as YOU have a JOB, you republican fcuks.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:24 pmThe legislation process is ugly. The GOP is filled with morons. The result is predictable.
http://www.pufferfishblog.com/
February 6th, 2009 at 12:25 pm#93
February 6th, 2009 at 12:25 pmI think it might be because they weren’t paid enough to apply their genius. If only we had been willing to pay them their “fair” market value
Phuck you A$$hats and your take your time strtategy because America wants to know what is in the package,people are losing their jobs left and right, they are losing their homes,health care is through the roof and you a$$hats want to take your time, well you sure didn`t take your getting into Iraq much less did you take your time cutting taxes for the wealthy,all the while the real people of this country middle and working class Americans are getting SCREWED,go to hell all of you damn re-puke speak TROLLS.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:27 pmGet to work comrades.
We thought we’d give you guys a chance to work with us on this… but if you’d really rather have us pursue ONLY our agenda, it’s no skin off our noses… thanks for the go-ahead Proud!
February 6th, 2009 at 12:34 pmWhen and where did he get his clown training? I always was interested in clown college as well. Damn President Obama is talented. What a truly educated man
February 6th, 2009 at 12:34 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
I suspect that Jefferson would be too busy being transfixed Beyoncé videos on that strange box with moving pictures to worry about what has become of his invention of these United States.
Sigh….can we just stick with the image of his thighbone richocheting inside his coffin? Bit more dignity…
February 6th, 2009 at 12:35 pmgopny Says:
how will giving 4.6 billion dollars to ACORN ’stimulate’ the economy???
Please cite in the bill where that line-item exists. Because it doesn’t, yet you people keep saying it does. So maybe you’re looking at a different bill?
Also, ACORN is awesome and does good work. They deserve public funding, even though they’re not getting it.
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gopny Says:
actually only 37% of americans currently support the shitulus
Funny, the Rasmussen article you cited said their results were “very similar” to the Gallup poll on the subject, which showed 38% wanting to pass the bill as proposed. But that glosses over the following:
So while we have some disagreements about this or that detail, the bill overall is actually quite popular.
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gopny Says:
My solution:
Suspend the payroll tax for two years
Cut Welfare Spending by 25%
Cut Medicaid Spending by 25%
Cut Scohool aid by 15%
We will then have a 700 billion dollar surplus
Reduce entitlement program spending
First of all, your math is off by a couple orders of magnitude. Which is typical of a wingnut, and an important reason why you people should be kept far away from any major economies.
Look, you guys are the “run government like a business” party, right? You ever heard of any successful businessperson who rose to the top solely by cutting costs? Typically a slash-costs-only approach signals a huge downturn for any company. Businesses do well by investing spending wisely (aka. high ROI) to attract revenue. That’s the idea behind this stimulus bill.
It’s also the idea behind the things you want to cut. Businesses can’t thrive in an environment that lacks a healthy educated workforce.
So far, everything you’re suggesting is designed to depress the economy further.
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gopny Says:
deport all illegal aliens.
All illegal aliens caught by law enforcement are deported. It’s already the law. That’s hardly an “idea.”
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gopny Says:
payroll tax cuts would put immediate money into the pocket of every WORKING legal american.
Actually, that would save money for their employers, but it wouldn’t direct any more money to employees. Those are not the same thing.
So far, everything that you’ve said is incorrect.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:36 pmO.k. Mr. president, sir, with all respect: the republicans are NOT your friends — they are… well, let’s just paste it in their own words (and i am so stunned that this statement was made, AND that there has been no legal action following it):
Sessions said… “I simply said one can see that there’s a model out there for insurgency,” …(and)… that Republicans “need to get over the idea that they’re participating in legislation and ought to start thinking of themselves as ‘an insurgency’ instead.”
So, their intention is to NOT participate in legislating, but to act like a radical theocratic terrorist insurgency.
Mr. President, sir, this is not just a bunch of silly words. This is not even “just” (?!?!) thinly veiled racism. This is a clear declaration that they, as a party, are no longer serving the interests of the country, nor are they upholding their oaths of office. They do not want to do the business that they were hired to do — they want to work on gaining power and encating their self-motivated policies ON, not for, the country. This is not the only comment along these lines or of this caliber from these traitors in the last few weeks (we could go back farther, but no need — the rabid anti-American sentiment has been prominent in them recently).
Something must be done. They want the office of the president to fail, they want the majority party to fail, and, most importantly, they want America to fail.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:38 pmAnd if the majority party, and the president, do not recognize this AND act upon it appropriately, legally, then they will succeed.
Wicker obviously misspoke. He meant to say he wants to delay into the wrong way.
As President Obama clearly pointed out yesterday, we tried it his way for the last 8 years and that is why we are in the messs we are in. As I have been posting for weeks, each 1 week delay results in another 150,000 people joining the unemployed ranks. Delay is a clear enemy. It would be better to clean up a few small “wrongs” after the fact than to have any further delay. Such is the nature of the consequences.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:43 pmHmmm… in the interests of decorum I agree.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:44 pmThank goodness Prod showed up to relive GOP Pony, who was getting his ass handed to him.
Let’s see if Prod can hold up his end of the debate.
He sure is off to a slow start…
February 6th, 2009 at 12:47 pmgopny Says:
My solution:
Suspend the payroll tax for two years
Cut Welfare Spending by 25%
Cut Medicaid Spending by 25%
Cut Scohool aid by 15%
We will then have a 700 billion dollar surplus
Reduce entitlement program spending
deport all illegal aliens.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:14 am
None of that would stimulate the economy but does indicate a need to stimulate your homeschooling curriculum.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:53 pmProud Says:
Yes illegal aliens are deported when found, unless they are related to Obama. Then they stay here free and clear and live in public housing.
From da news:
So what’s your point?
Actually, it looks to me like the wingnuts are the ones trying to circumvent the existing legal process and make a politicized exception here:
And her housing situation doesn’t look like something to be envious of either.
Wow, you wingnuts are just plain mean. You are bad human beings, you realize that?
February 6th, 2009 at 12:54 pmProud Says:
Yes illegal aliens are deported when found, unless they are related to Obama. Then they stay here free and clear and live in public housing.
A living arrangement of which they’re reduced, because your party is too busy treating them like inhuman shit.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:57 pmProud is a proud member of the Repugnicunt Taliban. Her task is to throw pipe bombs on blogs to disrupt the process. Not contribute, not hope to make a positive difference, but to stir shit.
Rather see a failed America than a successful Democratic President.
And the handle Proud? If there were anything to be proud of, the insecure punk wouldn’t be crying for attention from the rest of us. Ignore the pathetic b*tch’s cry for attention.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:59 pmThat is as close to the truth as this particular friend has ever come on these boards.
Assuming he’s talking about his contribution, of course.
And besides, with apologies to dbadass… “Proud” of what?
February 6th, 2009 at 1:00 pmProud Says:
Until the dems give the boot to Reid and Pelosi nothing good can happen.
Wow, Proud. You might actually get some agreement around here on that. I’m marking this day on my calendar.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:10 pmProud thinks that Obama should have fixed in two weeks what Reaganomics has been destroying for 30 years. Typical Republican thinking.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:12 pmProud Says:
Yes illegal aliens are deported when found, unless they are related to Obama. Then they stay here free and clear and live in public housing.
A moron in action! Go get ‘em Proud! Proud to be ignorant – Proud to be insensitive – Proud to be a xenophobe – Proud to vote against one’s self-interest…
You are a complete stinker buddy.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:12 pmElBruce Says:
Proud Says:
Until the dems give the boot to Reid and Pelosi nothing good can happen.
Wow, Proud. You might actually get some agreement around here on that. I’m marking this day on my calendar.
ElBruce, I agree. I think quasi-sensible posts from Proud are like leap years and blue moons…they don’t happen all that often.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:13 pmSo the Limbots have found one issue to address, the illegal Kenyan immigrant problem. I hope it’s not to complicated for them.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:15 pmBingo, Shayne!
February 6th, 2009 at 1:26 pm4 years of Herbert Hoover = Great Depression
8 years of George W. Bush = Great Depression II
Heck of a job chimpy.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:27 pmCageyCretin Says:
gopny Says:
you dims own this shitulus bill. i hope the economy tanks in the next 2 years
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You hit the nail on the head. Here’s goopny’s take on it.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:28 pmI’m late to this, but I remember living in a ghetto neighborhood many, many years ago and all the young people ever wanted or asked for was a decent job. Some way to make an honest living.
Now I see the country losing jobs all over the country, in every sector of the economy. And all the people want is jobs. Someplace to earn a living so they can raise their kids and maybe retire with a little money after a little while. No one wants to be fabulously rich, this is their American dream… just to have a good life and give a little bit more to their kids than they had.
The Republican policies of the last 8 years are turning the whole country into a ghetto. Trickling down on all of us peons.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pmgopny Says:
how will giving 4.6 billion dollars to ACORN ’stimulate’ the economy???
gopny, do you get your information from anywhere but Rush’s big mouth? figures a sheep like you would repeat a GOP talking point without question…If the GOP told you to eat e.coli tainted spinach, would you?
February 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pmgopny Says:
My solution:
Suspend the payroll tax for two years
Cut Welfare Spending by 25%
Cut Medicaid Spending by 25%
Cut Scohool aid by 15%
I have a better idea…Cut military spending by 50% and eliminate those wasteful Star Warseque programs…
Of course you GOPers always have to cut education, because you want a stupid populace that will only take marching orders and because critical thinking is anathema for the GOP…
February 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pmMaybe the Dems could all walk around backward, thereby convincing the Replugs they’re just like conservatives. Then we can get a good bill passed.
February 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pmWe should be spending every dime of this stimulus package this year. Waiting until 2011 and 2012 to spend this money does those who are out of work now no good. They’ll be out of their homes by then. Let’s get this passed now, let’s cut the spending for 2010 and beyond or make sure it gets spent asap.
February 6th, 2009 at 2:21 pmsounds like mcconnell and the rest are starting to make their excuses for a filibuster – no need to hurry, let’s just talk about this some more!
February 6th, 2009 at 2:40 pmThis thought just occurred to me, a few weeks ago, the GOP polled its members as to who the GREATEST Rethuglic party president ever. Remember that?
Winning hands down was Ronnie Ray-gun. To my knowledge, neither Eisenhower nor Lincoln even got honorable mention.
So I think it would be appropriate to use one of his own quotes. It DOES pertain to this thread enormously. It illustrate PERFECTLY the knuckledraggers mentality.
Is it really news that some guy in South Succotash lost his job? -Ronnie Ray-gun 1982(?) at a press conference.
February 6th, 2009 at 2:46 pmSeptember 2008…Holy Crap, the banks running my investment funds are going under…throw them some more cash or THE WORLD WILL END!!!!
February 2009…workers are losing their jobs at a rate we haven’t seen since the last time Wall Street went under…slow your butts down, this isn’t serious.
February 6th, 2009 at 2:50 pmOBAMA RUSHED — ECONOMY CRUSHED
Obama seems to be getting testy. His eye twitch is back. He looks to be close to a nervous breakdown. I don’t think he’s going to be able to take the pressure of four years let alone eight. The guy hardly works and has already had to take time off to go to a spa, a resort and a musical.
February 6th, 2009 at 6:05 pmNervous breakdown, Erkel? Project much?
February 6th, 2009 at 7:09 pmTo all of you who are worried about leaving a mountain of debt for our children:
1) Why weren’t you worrying about the mountain of debt we incurred for the last 8 years? Bush came into office with a balanced budget.
2) Our children will be happy to worry about the debt when they’re old enough to do so. Right now they’ll be grateful for a roof over their heads and a full belly every day.
3) “Entitlement’ was invented and perfected by the rich and/or powerful.
This has been true throughout history, and is demonstrated by the quick passage of the bank bailout bill with little or no oversight of the banks who accepted the money, no plan to administer the bailout and the ‘I want my bonus even if I have to take it from the taxpayers!” mentality of the mental midgets who drove this country to financial destruction. So socialism, when it bails out the wealthy and powerful is ok, but when it helps anyone else, is not.
February 6th, 2009 at 7:25 pmExterminate the RepubliCons, like the rats and roaches, they are.
February 6th, 2009 at 7:37 pmHey, GOPNY, you’re going to confuse them by injecting facts into the discussion. They might also chew on this, from the Congressional Budget Office, as reported by the Washington Times:
President Obama’s economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.
CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate bills will help in the short term but result in so much government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing.
I’m extremely underwhelmed by the quality of the discussion on this board. Except for rare posters like GOPNY who actually interject something factual into the discussion, it’s seemingly a collection of ignorant, foul-mouthed louts.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:05 pmgopfl [gooper fellatrix?] and gopny [gooper pony boy] are the same person.
February 7th, 2009 at 12:29 amgopny Says:
Just shut up you ignorant troll. We all know you are stupid. We all know you are desperate. We all know you WISH the stupid you spew after the Oxymoron feeds it to you were true and we all know its just the opinions of a brainwashed moron without a single functional braincell.
February 7th, 2009 at 7:57 amgopny Says:
You are ignorant. You are a liar and you are a fool. ACORNs own CEO says they arent even ELLIGIBLE for any federal funds. Acorn has never GOTTEN a Federal contract. Your lies are old, they are stupid, they have long ago been debunked. You are a liar and a moron and a troll. Go back to your bridge and STFU
February 7th, 2009 at 7:58 amACORN will receive funds from this bill through one of its schill organizations. I suggest you take your blinders off or better yet READ THE BILL. I know you are much to busy to be responsible and do something like that before you mouth off.
dbearton Says:
Exterminate the RepubliCons, like the rats and roaches, they are.
dbearton, Your intelligent. Not.
Here’s something for you Liberal Socialists out there. The Constitution guarantees a “Republican form of Government”. Yup right there in the good ol’ Constitution that you morons know nothing about. Not a liberal form or even a Socialist Form of government but a “Republican Form Of Government”
ESTD. Ha Ha Ha Ha.
February 7th, 2009 at 9:58 amto ucsbclassics53:
Of course you GOPers always have to cut education, because you want a stupid populace that will only take marching orders and because critical thinking is anathema for the GOP…
This is not a Education bill. It’s the liberals controlling the school system in this country. That’s why Johnny can’t read but he knows how to put a condom on.
The school system collects approx 1 trillion dollars a year in revenue in this country and yet Johnny still can’t read.
Talk about marching in lock step. Your to stupid to see that it’s the Liberals who control the subject matter in the public school system. They have one of the largest unions in this country and yet you still can’t make a trillion dollars a year work. What do you want, another trillion a year?
You must be a product of that great educational system. Oh did I call you an idiot? I’m sure I meant to.
February 7th, 2009 at 10:11 amrepublicans hate facts Says:
Or if they’re CIA Agents like Ali Mohamed that the GOP got into the country by hiding he was a terrorist and KEPT in the country after he was involved in the WTC bombing… ROTFL!!! I’ll take the Democrats – thanks anyway LOSER!
I’m sure you also think building 7 at the WTC was imploded by George Bush to destroy FBI and CIA files too.
Your an Idiot.You need to get out more or have your therapist talk you down.
February 7th, 2009 at 10:17 amchristopher wiwi Says:
Phuck you A$$hats and your take your time strtategy because America wants to know what is in the package,people are losing their jobs left and right, they are losing their homes,health care is through the roof and you a$$hats want to take your time, well you sure didn`t take your getting into Iraq much less did you take your time cutting taxes for the wealthy,all the while the real people of this country middle and working class Americans are getting SCREWED,go to hell all of you damn re-puke speak TROLLS.
All started by the Democrats when the housing industry collapsed. Of course you know nothing about this because you only read Liberal Talking Points and Hate Bush articles. It must be dark inside a closed mind.
February 7th, 2009 at 10:25 amwiwi, Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Go do some wiwi, Ha Ha Ha.
February 7th, 2009 at 10:27 amWhat is going on here is that the Democraps won a battle and they think they won the war. Want some cheese with that whine?
We’re not going anywhere. Deal with it.
You control the House and Senate. You don’t need us Republicans except to blame this bill on when it fails because of all the PORK in it.
When the people in this country get hit with the tax bill for this boondoggle it will solely be on the shoulders of you Liberal Socialists. I’m going to jump up and say “I told you so”. The devil will demand his payment.
Latest poll shows that this bill has a 20% approval by the American people as passed by Queen Nancy of the Fairy Lands.
What’s wrong? Has Obie lost control of things? Lets see, Soldiers are still being killed, Bin Laden is still sitting in his Lounge Chair drinking Ice Tea, and the jails are still full at Gitmo. Yup, Obie’s magic pen is a wonderful thing isn’t it?
You Liberals are such Idiots.
Not everyone in this country marches in lockstep with the Liberal Socialists.
February 7th, 2009 at 10:52 amHere I am reading a day old post and I come across an absolute ahole like you perfesser. What do you teach, denial?
February 7th, 2009 at 2:31 pmEverything that’s wrong with this country is because of the lunatics (such as yourself) in the republican party. I could go over everything line by line and refute your perverted logic. By why bother. It’s enough to say your an ahole. Go somewhere else where delusional thinking is appreciated. It’s not appreciated here. Democrats like to fix things not totally fu*k them up like your party.
By the way, go fu*k yourself.
Rich H Says:
Here I am reading a day old post and I come across an absolute ahole like you perfesser. What do you teach, denial?
Everything that’s wrong with this country is because of the lunatics (such as yourself) in the republican party. I could go over everything line by line and refute your perverted logic. By why bother. It’s enough to say your an ahole. Go somewhere else where delusional thinking is appreciated. It’s not appreciated here. Democrats like to fix things not totally fu*k them up like your party.
By the way, go fu*k yourself.
Thank you Rich. You make my point very nicely.
February 7th, 2009 at 5:21 pmRich thinks that only vulgar people like himself are allowed to post an opinion.
Why aren’t you happy Rich? You won.
One more thing. I’m not going anywhere just because of people like you.
Deal with it.
February 7th, 2009 at 5:25 pmFolks Rich’s post shows the Liberal mindset when confronted by an opposing opinion. He uses Vulgarity and insults instead of facts. It’s a Liberal tactic that I am very familiar with. All mouth.
I chose this very site because of the amount of Liberals here and their type of responses.
Lets see 1st Amendment. Now does that mean anything to you people who are constantly trying to silence those who don’t believe as you do.
Try this one on. Article IV, section 4.
I’ll check back to see if your intelligent enough to understand the English language.
February 7th, 2009 at 5:34 pmObama rocked last night! If the republicans are squealing, he’s doing something right.
Did anyone catch the clip of Boxer calling Lindsey Graham a drama queen? It was hilarious..
February 8th, 2009 at 7:05 amIt’s mutual self gratification for the “cons”, one big circle jerk enjoying the fact that for everyday they delay they feel they are punishing “the people” that voted for change. What they fail to reconize is there is no discrimination in the jobless and the future jobless (and all that comes with it)when it comes to party affiliation. Then again, the con’s (not beliving in science, physics and other useless knowledge)never have understood that little used principal “for every action there’s a reaction”. They soon will.
February 8th, 2009 at 10:52 amhomerandivot Says:
It’s mutual self gratification for the “cons”, one big circle jerk enjoying the fact that for everyday they delay they feel they are punishing “the people” that voted for change. What they fail to reconize is there is no discrimination in the jobless and the future jobless (and all that comes with it)when it comes to party affiliation. Then again, the con’s (not beliving in science, physics and other useless knowledge)never have understood that little used principal “for every action there’s a reaction”. They soon will.
What’s wrong. Republicans getting under your skin. Hey you Liberal Socialist won. You don’t need the Republican vote. Tell Obie to go for it. Why are you listening to the Republicans any way? Push the vote.
February 8th, 2009 at 11:21 pmRich H Says:
Here I am reading a day old post and I come across an absolute ahole like you perfesser. What do you teach, denial?
Everything that’s wrong with this country is because of the lunatics (such as yourself) in the republican party. I could go over everything line by line and refute your perverted logic. By why bother. It’s enough to say your an ahole. Go somewhere else where delusional thinking is appreciated. It’s not appreciated here. Democrats like to fix things not totally fu*k them up like your party.
By the way, go fu*k yourself.
Hey Rich. Enlighten me on why all those Liberal Democrat run States are all bankrupt. You guys are so great at economics and spending money.
And there you go again. 1.2 trillion dollars. You couldn’t handle the 800 billion you got last September. You Socialist are really smart. No kidding. I bow down to you. I just had another good Idea. Why don’t you put Chris Dodd and Barney Frank in charge of the Mortgage industry.
Now you’re cooking.
February 8th, 2009 at 11:42 pmRasmussen Poll: Only 37% Now Support Existing Stimulus Plan
February 4th, 2009
By JOE GANDELMAN, Editor-In-Chief
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Pollsters vary in their findings, and Rasmussen’s polls don’t always agree with Gallup’s — but this clearly shows a steep drop in support for the present incarnation of President Barack Obama’s economic stimulus plan:
Support for the economic recovery plan working its way through Congress has fallen again this week. For the first time, a plurality of voters nationwide oppose the $800-billion-plus plan.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 37% favor the legislation, 43% are opposed, and 20% are not sure.
Two weeks ago, 45% supported the plan. Last week, 42% supported it.
Opposition has grown from 34% two weeks ago to 39% last week and 43% today.
Sixty-four percent (64%) of Democrats still support the plan. That figure is down from 74% a week ago. Just 13% of Republicans and 27% of those not affiliated with either major party agree.
Seventy-two percent (72%) of Republicans oppose the plan along with 50% of unaffiliated voters and 16% of Democrats.
The two main shifts seem to be the continued mobilization of GOPers back to the party line as articulated by members of Congress and talk show hosts. Some will say it shows how easy it is to push a button and turn on the partisanship light. The other is the erosion in support from independent voters.
Just as George Bush couldn’t be successful morphing from a Texas governor who was popular among people of both parties, Obama will need to retain his bipartisan appeal to succeed. It has also been evident in recent weeks that — so far, at least — Obama has not used the bully pulpit and all of the tools at his disposal to clamor (not ask) for the bill’s passage and/or to get Democrats to seriously fine tune it and peel off some of the Republican opposition.
Look for a VERY unhappy day at the stock market if this comes to a vote and fails to pass or is fillbustered and doesn’t come to a vote.
I guess if you give the people of this country the time to read the bill the more they think it is full of PORK.
OBTW the ACORN funds remained in the new bill. How do I know? Long hours of boring reading.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:02 pmWASHINGTON (CNN) — Two new national polls suggest that support for an $800 billion stimulus plan to pump up the economy has slipped since mid-January, but may have stabilized in the past week.
Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, works with his aides on the economic stimulus package. Polls show support for the bill is slipping.
1 of 2 Fifty-one percent of those questioned in a CBS News poll released Thursday evening approved of the stimulus package. That’s down 12 points from a poll taken January 11-15, the last time CBS asked the question. Thirty-nine percent opposed the plan, up 15 points from the previous poll, taken before President Barack Obama was inaugurated and before the House of Representatives passed an $819 billion stimulus package, with no Republican support, on January 28.
A new USA Today/Gallup poll, also released on Thursday, shows virtually identical numbers to the CBS News poll — 52 percent favoring an economic stimulus plan and 38 percent in opposition. Fifty-two percent also favored an economic stimulus plan in a Gallup poll conducted on January 27, a week after the inauguration and the day before the House passed the bill that the Senate is currently considering.
“These two polls, taken together, indicate that support for a hypothetical stimulus package dropped once an actual piece of legislation was introduced and debated in the House,” said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Opinion about the specific bill that is now before the Senate has remained consistent since the details of the House bill were made public. A slight majority favor the current package, with just under four in 10 opposing the bill.”
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The public often changes its mind about proposals made by a president or by Congress once the details are known, Holland added. “It’s easy to express support for a bill when the goal is clearly stated but the details are not well known. Traditionally, the bigger the bill, the more there is in it that will eventually turn some voters off.”
And the USA Today/Gallup poll seems to indicate a desire for a smaller bill. Forty-eight percent favored Congress cutting the size of the bill by up to $200 billion, with 41 percent opposing such a move.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:07 pm