ThinkFast: February 6, 2009
ThinkFast: February 6, 2009
The Treasury Department’s $700 billion financial sector bailout program is shortchanging taxpayers by about $78 billion. Treasury has “received bank assets worth about $176 billion in exchange for capital purchases of $254 billion under the Troubled Asset Relief Program.” Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) said, “These are massive handouts to favored institutions to try to make up with taxpayer money the mistakes they made with investor money.”
President Obama will name the members of his Economic Recovery Advisory Board today, which will be led by former Federal Reserve chairman Paul Volcker. The panel, which is modeled after the Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, will include businesspeople, labor experts and academic economists. Obama adviser Austan Goolsbee will serve as staff director and chief economist for the 15-member board.
A bipartisan group of about 20 senators spent yesterday in a committee room on Capitol Hill to candidly discuss “how to broker a political bailout of the economic recovery legislation.” But “notably absent” from the negotiations was Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) “who has dug in against the stimulus package and on Thursday lost an effort to rewrite it on the floor.”
The country’s largest labor and Hispanic groups are ratcheting up the confirmation fight over Labor Secretary nominee Hilda Solis. “Enough is enough, the gloves are coming off on Friday,” said one official with the AFL-CIO. ThinkProgress has already been engaging in the battle — check out our posts here, here, and here.
“A growing number of states are running out of cash to pay unemployment benefits, a sign of how far social-welfare systems are being stretched by the swelling ranks of the jobless in the deteriorating U.S. economy,” the Wall Street Journal reports. Seven states emptied their unemployment-insurance trust funds in recent months while “another 11 states are in jeopardy of depleting reserves by year’s end.”
“We are writing to affirm our continuing commitment to enacting comprehensive health care reform this year,” Sens. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) and Max Baucus (D-MT) wrote in a letter to President Obama yesterday. “As you have emphasized, we must act now.”
“Facing a furor in Parliament, British Foreign Secretary David Miliband all but confirmed on Thursday that the U.S. had threatened to break off intelligence sharing if details were revealed about the alleged torture of a British resident held at the Guantanamo Bay military prison.” The U.S. embassy denied threatening the British, but a spokesman said that even with a new president, “I don’t think the position on the confidentiality principle will change.”
The New York Times writes, “With the recession on the brink of becoming the longest in the postwar era, a milestone may be at hand: Women are poised to surpass men on the nation’s payrolls, taking the majority for the first time in American history.” Eighty-two percent of the job losses have hit men, although women still earn less than men in the workforce.
President Obama’s stimulus plan will pump $1 billion to states to help them hire more police through the Community Orienting Police Services (COPS), a program “all but eliminated” by Bush. “In police hiring, nearly 100 percent of the money goes to creating jobs,” Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) said, noting that “many police departments are already reporting increases in crime and cuts in their budgets and their forces.”
And finally: The Washington Post reports, “With permission from the Secret Service, the National Park Service has been in hot pursuit of a pack of raccoons spotted roaming the manicured grounds near the White House.” These critters are most likely just “passing through” and “looking for food,” according to the Humane Society’s John Hadidian. President Calvin Coolidge, however, had a pet raccoon named Rebecca, who “often sat on his shoulder or was cuddled by the first lady.”
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Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) said, “These are massive handouts to favored institutions to try to make up with taxpayer money the mistakes they made with investor money.”
It’s pretty much the biggest bank robbery in the history of this country.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:03 amPresident Obama will name the members of his Economic Recovery Advisory Board today…
This seems like a perfect assignment for Paul Krugman. Let’s hope that Obama isn’t too pissed at him to tap him for one of the board seats.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:07 amAnd who would want McCain there? After his bizarre reaction in September to the economic crises we knew for sure he should not be in charge of economic policy. As Bob Cesca points out, McCain and his fellow repubs have ZERO CRED on the economy.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:08 amstates are running out of cash to pay unemployment benefits.
Meanwhile, here in Michigan, the state is hiring more people to process unemployment claims. Oh, the irony.
Good morning, campers
February 6th, 2009 at 9:14 amTGIF
As states sink deeper and deeper in the mess the F ing re-pukes continue to obstruct the stimulus and America goes deeper and deeper into oblivion and the FAT CAT re-pukes want tax cuts that don`t work,with gov`t spending you get more bang for you buck by at least a 2 to 1 margin or better and don`t forget your tax cuts under the Shrub and your $12 billion a month in Iraq since 2003 by golly that`s alot of tax payer money that could have been used to fight poverty,build or refurbish our schools, make college alot less exspensive for the middle and working class,build better roads and bridges and I could go on but I won`t, so go to HELL all of you that speak re-puke because we will get this done without you.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:17 am“Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL)”
That’s my rep! I volunteered for his campaign and gave him money (albeit not much, but still!) So much better than that Bush enabler we had.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:18 amAnd Solis. Solis is the nominee I am most excited about so naturally the Republicans are stalling her.
Why can’t the GOP just go away?
February 6th, 2009 at 9:21 amAnd the economic stimulus to get past the Republican blockade in the Senate? A $15,000 tax credit for homebuyers!
While the newly unemployed lose their homes, the wealthy investors get a new tax break for snapping them up at bargain-basement prices. 40 Republican Senators are serving their Masters well.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:25 amFrosty;
February 6th, 2009 at 9:27 amthe ONLY way to make Repukes go away is to disappear them by ‘extra-ordinary’ rendition(their own brainchild btw), or lock them up at Gitmo for some ‘water-sports’.
For those who argued against equal pay, this gives pause to think. Could women be kept on the payroll because they’re being paid less to do the same job as men? It is certainly a possibility that this form of reverse discrimination is occuring as business seek to cut labor expenses.
Of course, the employer could aways say there was no discriminatory motive: he merely looked at two employees doing the same job, and kept the one drawing the smaller salary.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:30 amUncle Ho:
Maybe one day they’ll spontaneously Rapture . . .
(Good morning, Uncle Ho, btw.)
February 6th, 2009 at 9:32 amAnd the economic stimulus to get past the Republican blockade in the Senate? A $15,000 tax credit for homebuyers!
And who do you know that PAYS $15,000 in taxes????
February 6th, 2009 at 9:34 amWait for it….RICH FOLKS..
Briseadh na Faire:
Didn’t Greenspan say in his book that he always tried to hire female economists? He said he always knew they were just as good as men, but because other men wouldn’t hire them he could get their Just-As-good work for less.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:36 amFrosty;
or, maybe spontaneously rupture(rectum).
hee, hee,
February 6th, 2009 at 9:37 amsnicker
Wall Street CEOs, investment bankers charged prostitutes on corporate cards, madam saysJohn Byrne
Published: Friday February 6, 2009
Investment bankers racked up $100,000s in prostitution charges
Visa, Mastercard or American Express? Or maybe a credit card from JP Morgan Chase?
Wall Street CEOs, lawyers, bankers and media executives chalked up thousands of dollars in prostitution charges on their corporate credit cards — swiping their cards for $2,000 an hour prostitutes, according to a New York madam who plead guilty last year.
Among the names the network says it confirmed…
* an investment banker at JP Morgan Securities who “loves Brooke” and spent $41,600
February 6th, 2009 at 9:37 am* an investment banker at Goldman Sachs who “only wanted all-American girls” and spent $27,000
* a managing director from Merrill Lynch who saw “Lana” using the name “Nataly”
* a managing director from Deutsche Bank “who called about seeing Nataly again”
It’s time for Mr. Obama to go on the offensive. Above all, he must not shy away from pointing out that those who stand in the way of his plan, in the name of a discredited economic philosophy, are putting the nation’s future at risk. The American economy is on the edge of catastrophe, and much of the Republican Party is trying to push it over that edge.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:38 am-Paul Krugman / NYT / 2-6-09
Good morning all! I wonder what troll turds this Friday will bring? Seems as though Obama REALLY ruffled some feathers last night after he chastised the Greedy Obstructionist Party for trying to political games during this crisis.
Accusations of socialism were flying, Obama was accused of using the “politics of fear,” faithful TP’ers were called drones…it was a veritable cornucopia of shrill Right-wing hand-wringing, cmplete with someone calling the stimulus bill a sexual violation of the US tax payer!!
Good times…I love it when GOOPIES cry and go on at length about how evil Obama is – it increases the irrationality quotient immensely.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:39 am^This. Could a mod PLEASE send an email to John Podesta to pass along a note to Obama? This needs to happen.
Bilbo, I must have missed some drama, why would Obama be mad at Krugman?
February 6th, 2009 at 9:44 amGOP accusing Obama of using the “politics of fear”
oh, that’s REALLY rich, from the party who preyed upon the fears of John Q. Public with fear-mongering fairy tales about mushroom clouds, Saddam’s nonexistant WMDs, etc, etc, etc
February 6th, 2009 at 9:44 amAnyone see Krugman on Morning Blow? I missed it, and hope he p’wned that dunderheaded a$$hat.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:46 amThis:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/05/army.suicides/
Is a story that used to rate it’s own TP thread.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/15/army-suicide-rate-highest-in-26-years/
February 6th, 2009 at 9:49 amThank god McCain was NOT elected President. His inability to act boldly during this economic recession shows that he lacks the skills needed to help Americans that are losing their jobs.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:49 amI’d cut funding for them too… or give them 2 billion on the condition they change their name. Recursive acronyms give me vertigo.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:54 am“Facing a furor in Parliament, British Foreign Secretary David Miliband all but confirmed on Thursday that the U.S. had threatened to break off intelligence sharing if details were revealed about the alleged torture of a British resident held at the Guantanamo Bay military prison.”
This is one example of why the world let out one big collective sigh of relief when Obama was elected. I wonder how many more countries Bully boy Bush threatened to get them to go along with his program.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:54 amDamnit! I didn’t even know he was on. I usually watch Fox And Friends before work (for the lulz).
February 6th, 2009 at 9:54 amBriseadh na Faire Says:
“A growing number of states are running out of cash to pay unemployment benefits,
And the economic stimulus to get past the Republican blockade in the Senate? A $15,000 tax credit for homebuyers!
And don’t forget the tax credit for helping people buy cars. I don’t think that this is all that bad, but they cap the cost of the car at $35,000 and the income level at $125,000. So, we will be giving a tax credit for some wealthy guy to buy a new Lexus.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:56 amdeebaser Says:
Bilbo, I must have missed some drama, why would Obama be mad at Krugman?
Because Krugman has been a consistent critic of the “stimulus” package. He thinks that it doesn’t go far enough and he doesn’t support the tax cuts.
If Obama had been smart, he would have Krugman front and center on the economic team that created this bill.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:59 amleftzone Says:
Anyone see Krugman on Morning Blow? I missed it, and hope he p’wned that dunderheaded a$$hat.
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I only saw a tiny bit on accident (dammit!) but what I saw was priceless.
I’m totally paraphrasing here but:
Joe: Republicans are fiscal conservatives. We want lower spending, smaller government, and this bill blah, blah, blah.
Paul (mild incredulity in that Krugman way): Where have you been for the last eight years?
Joe: Bush wasn’t a true conservative!
Paul (raised eyebrows): Then you don’t know what a modern conservative looks like.
Joe (defensive): (Can’t remember what his protest was.)
Paul: Where is this mythical conservative of which you speak?
Joe: (Continued foaming at the mouth.)
Maybe it’ll show up on The Google Tubes. It was great.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:03 amoh really…
February 6th, 2009 at 10:04 amIsrael to Obama: hold Iran’s feet to fire, or else
Reuters – 50 minutes ago
By Alistair Lyon, Special Correspondent – Analysis BEIRUT (Reuters) – Israel will go along with US President Barack Obama’s Iran diplomacy, but try to shorten the deadline for results by signaling its willingness to attack Iranian nuclear sites if need …
Abdul Qadeer Khan
February 6th, 2009 at 10:06 amguardian.co.uk – 36 minutes ago
If the runaway threat of nuclear proliferation ever explodes into Armageddon, the chances are that someone will blame the Pakistani scientist and international salesman Abdul Qadeer Khan for the devastation.
Lawyer: Pakistani nuclear scientist freed from house arrest CNN
Pakistan court says nuke scientist is free citizen The Associated Press
PRESS TV – Times of India – BBC News – Bloomberg
all 286 news articles »
http://news.google.com/?ncl=1301562472&hl=en&topic=w
Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
And don’t forget the tax credit for helping people buy cars. I don’t think that this is all that bad, but they cap the cost of the car at $35,000 and the income level at $125,000. So, we will be giving a tax credit for some wealthy guy to buy a new Lexus.
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I thought that, too, until I read an economist (can’t recall where, perhaps Democratic Underground or Common Dreams) argue that that money (car tax credits) would be better directed at mass transit. Put construction workers back to work, wean us off of oil, and have some serious mass transit to show for it for years to come.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:07 amPanel: Bailout Overpaid $78B For Stocks
February 6th, 2009 at 10:08 amCBS News – 1 hour ago
The TARP Congressional Oversight Panel reviewed bailout money the Federal Government gave to banks and found that it overpaid by $78 billion.
Video: Money Minute: TARP, Retail, Madoff AssociatedPress
US watchdog attacks bail-out plan BBC News
Bloomberg – CNNMoney.com – Washington Post – Reuters
all 660 news articles »
http://news.google.com/?ncl=1301624204&hl=en&topic=b
Olbermann had Russell Tice on to his show a couple of nights to discuss his allegations that the government was spying on Americans, and in particular, journalists, even though Tice had flunk a psych eval and been let go by the NSA before he ever made any of the allegations about domestic spying.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUSZHC1Gu7U
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Tice
O’Reilly and Fox sent a reporter to talk with Tice over the past couple of days, but Tice refused to talk with O’Reilly or offer any proof of his allegations.
If Tice is a whistleblower that wants to expose inappropriate spying by the government, why wouldn’t he want the opportunity to get that message to the millions of people that watch Fox?
Tice refused to offer any proof of his allegations to O’Reilly. Did Olbermann consider what proof Tice had? Especially in light of the possible conflict from the previous failed psych eval, suspension and termination (that were unrelated)? Did Olbermann even ask?
What is more important to Olbermann, helping to inform the American public, or simply airing those with a message that furthers his agenda, regardless of the credibility or validity.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:11 am@Frosty: Thank you! That tidbit was enough to put a smile on my face! TaxCut Joe got schooled!
February 6th, 2009 at 10:12 amleftzone:
You’re welcome! :)
February 6th, 2009 at 10:14 amHere ’tis!
February 6th, 2009 at 10:17 amsirota is not happy…
Despite Obama’s promises, rival views are scrubbed from White House
DAVID SIROTA, Creators Syndicate
Friday, February 6, 2009
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/05/EDGO15O7A8.DTL
February 6th, 2009 at 10:24 amRemember how R’s were whining about how Obama’s “business casual” rule for the Oval Office showed disrespect for the Presidency? Here’s a picture of Bush jacketless in the Oval Office. Also Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Ford and Kennedy.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:27 ambilbo, @2… from my sirota link above:
… From former federal officials like Robert Reich and Brooksley Born, to Nobel prize-winning economists like Joseph Stiglitz and Paul Krugman, to business leaders like Leo Hindery Jr., there’s no shortage of qualified experts who have challenged market fundamentalism. But they have been barred from an administration focused on ideological purity. …
not liking this…
February 6th, 2009 at 10:34 ambackup faux is not news…..grow up.
The soldier suicides are an issue for an administration that has been ignoring it for 7 years. Obama hasn’t been in office a month…..grow up.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:41 amI don’t think Obama’s THAT petty. So far he seems like he can handle honest criticism. You may be confusing the current president with the last guy. =P
<3
February 6th, 2009 at 10:42 amDee
Leftzone:
Thanks for the link!
February 6th, 2009 at 10:44 ammorbid facination got me yesterday while waiting on my wife at the dentist office and I tuned in hanity to see what was flying in fantasy land.
Apparently the right wing radio and media are under some kind of assult. anyone know why they feel this way?
The screaming and crying was delicious.
The cries of killing the first amendment were flying to the tune of “come and take my microphone and place it on your mantle as a tropy of the day you killed the first amendment?
I don’t know what is happening yet but I love it.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:58 amElBruce says;
I don’t care if Obama wears a jacket, and/or tie or not. Hell, he could work in the Oval Office in his birthday suit if he wants-just as he gets the job done.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:58 amElBruce.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:00 amThanks for the link.
I’ve put that up on my FaceBook status!
backup Says:
What is more important to Olbermann, helping to inform the American public, or simply airing those with a message that furthers his agenda, regardless of the credibility or validity.
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Funnyy, innit… you’re doing EXACTLY what you accuse Olbermann of doing… cherry picking the information to promote your own agenda.
We went thru this about two weeks ago. Folks dug up all kinds of information about Tice, much of which countered YOUR claims. As for NOT going on Fox, who would want to deal w/ Billo the Clown? He’s hardly an expert on national security, no matter what he claims.
And what about Nacchio’sstatements or Dave Larson’s?
Why such a need to flog this one, Captain?
February 6th, 2009 at 11:01 ambackup Says:
This:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/05/army.suicides/
Is a story that used to rate it’s own TP thread.
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 08/ 15/ army-suicide-rate-highest-in-26-years/
It is tragic that Bush’s administration went into an illegal war so woefully unprepared of what to do once the “mission” was “accomplished” that his actions have caused our armed forces to be stretched beyond the breaking point. Once the GOP stops playing political games with the economic crisis, hopefully they won’t play the same games with the situation over in Iraq and allow us to bring our troops home so that they can get the treatment they deserve and a friggin’ break.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:04 amFred Says:
The cries of killing the first amendment were flying to the tune of “come and take my microphone and place it on your mantle as a tropy of the day you killed the first amendment?
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Perhaps they’re still wetting themselves over the non-existent attempt to revive the Fairness Doctrine.
Remember… righties simply MUST pick fictitious fights. Every time they try to tackle a real issue, they get their Cheneys kicked to Kingdom come and back again. Hence… the “War On Christmas”… flag burning… gay marriage… and now, it’s the Fairness Doctrine.
I’m waiting for Billo the Clown to get into a slap fight w/ Mr Tooth Decay. I just hope the cameras are running for that one. I’m betting BillO loses that one too.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:06 ambackup Says:
Olbermann had Russell Tice on to his show a couple of nights to discuss his allegations that the government was spying on Americans, and in particular, journalists, even though Tice had flunk a psych eval and been let go by the NSA before he ever made any of the allegations about domestic spying.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUSZHC1Gu7U
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Tice
O’Reilly and Fox sent a reporter to talk with Tice over the past couple of days, but Tice refused to talk with O’Reilly or offer any proof of his allegations.
backup…O’Reilly is not a journalist. If your counter to that is that neither is Olbermann, well, that is all well and good.
One thing I haven’t seen Olbermann engage in – which O’Reilly is notorious for – is to ambush people in specifically designed hit pieces. Why would anyone want to entertain that?
Seriously – pointing to someone’s aversion to appear on O’Reilly doesn’t hurt their credibility and actually bolsters it, IMHO.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:09 ambackup Says:
If Tice is a whistleblower that wants to expose inappropriate spying by the government, why wouldn’t he want the opportunity to get that message to the millions of people that watch Fox?
Why would anyone ever waste their time going on Fox? The Fox audience will only listen to the propagandists on their programs, and only as long as the propagandists continue to tell them what they want to hear. Anyone going on Fox with a contrary opinion or information is going to be mocked and shouted down and treated like sh1t.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:12 amYou’re probably right ros, good to see you here today.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:16 amOlbermann gave Tice a couple of nights, and I believe he didn’t question Tice’s allegations or his credibility on the issue. Only gave Tice a platform.
Maybe, I’m unaware. Did Tice ever offer any proof? Wouldn’t the fact that Tice went to a psych eval, because he believed a co-worker was a Chinese spy, he continued to raise the unfounded issue, after it had been dismissed. Questioned the competency of the FBI on their handling of his unfounded charges. Failed a psych eval. Was moved to the motorpool, base on his concerns of Chinese spies, and eventually threatened the NSA to go to the media (over the unrelated whistleblowing) unless he got reinstated to the NSA with his security clearance back.
All over issues that had nothing to do with wiretapping or domestic spying.
After all this, he comes up with the charge that the government is spying on journalists and regular people. Olbermann doesn’t think to question Tice’s credibility on the issue. Don’t the psych eval and the firing serve as possible motivations for false allegations?
I’m not familiar with Nacchio or Larson’s statements. Regardless of how credible they are, it doesn’t explain Olbermann complete lack of interest in getting to the truth about Tice and his allegations, but only interested in hearing a story that matches his world view.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:20 amHe’s a smart guy captain. He doesn’t have to explain his actions to you and neither do we.
Why don’t you explain why you think the republicans are killing thier chances to ever be viable as a political party?
February 6th, 2009 at 11:30 ambackup Says:
Why such a need to flog this one, Captain?
Olbermann gave Tice a couple of nights, and I believe he didn’t question Tice’s allegations or his credibility on the issue.
We’re not Olbermann, and you aren’t Tice…so let us talk about credibility backup. Where are your links refuting Tice’s claims? Did you not acknowledge that warrantless wiretapping occurred under the previous administration? Did you watch each minute of Tice on Olbermann? Bolster your credibility for us here backup. TP gives you a platform, but the “viewers” need these hard-hitting questions answered.
Whenever you are ready.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:32 ambackup Says:
I’m not familiar with Nacchio or Larson’s statements. Regardless of how credible they are, it doesn’t explain Olbermann complete lack of interest in getting to the truth about Tice and his allegations, but only interested in hearing a story that matches his world view.
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And both Limbaugh and O’Reilly are notorious for doing the EXACT same thing – only interested in hearing a story that matches their world view. Hell… they’ll both gladly MAKE UP a story that fits their world view if they can’t find one, as evinced by their totally contrived hysteria over the Fairness Doctrine.
I was listening to O’Reilly’s radio show one night back in 2005. It was right after a particularly nasty incident in which several immigrants had been beaten to death in Florida during a botched robbery. O’Reilly started to argue w/ a caller and when the caller pointed O’Reilly had said something to a previous caller, BillO erupted on him.
Billo claimed “we don’t take calls on this show”… think about it for a minute. Doesn’t take calls? Huh? Is BillO delusional? He said this DURING a call he had taken. Just… amazing… why does this man have even an aura of respectability about him?
Would YOU go on his show if you knew he wasn’t the least bit interested in the truth of what you were saying, but rather had an agenda? Do you REALLY think O’Reilly is the least bit interested in the truth on this subject matter? Or just in winning imaginary fights, like his crushing victory over “teh libruls” in the “War on Christmas”?
As far as Tice’s psych evaluation goes… gee, wasn’t that a preferred method for destroying your adversary’s credibility in the old Soviet Union? If you can discredit the messenger, you don’t have to take the message seriously.
I have to go Captain. Day to day life calls.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:35 amThe exact scope of the program is not known, but the NSA is or was provided total, unsupervised access to all fiber-optic communications going between some of the nation’s major telecommunication companies’ major interconnect locations, including phone conversations, email, web browsing, and corporate private network traffic.
Yea, I’m sure it is completely batty to even suspect the NSA or any other government agency with access to this information of doing anything untoward.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:37 amFred Says:
You’re probably right ros, good to see you here today.
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Morning, Fred. TGIF, huh?
February 6th, 2009 at 11:47 amRepublic.
I agree with you about O’Reilly and Limbaugh. I’m only saying that Olbermann falls in the same camp. He’s not a journalist, but a partisan like O’Reilly and Limbaugh. Not interested in the truth. More interested in agenda.
I don’t know about the others, but Tice is way less than credible.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:04 pmYou speak to us of “less than credible”? Seriously captain, you are just trying to be a grain of sand but you are just childish in your attempts.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:30 pmbackup Says:
I don’t know about the others, but Tice is way less than credible.
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Again, I am forced to ask… why such a need to label Tice? You seem bent on personally trying this man, here, on TP. I have to say, the more you complain about him, when this really isn’t on anyone’s radar right now, the more you will raise flags, Captain. I for one, now wonder, why is backup so obsessed w/ this one person? It’s called ‘blowback”….
February 6th, 2009 at 12:49 pmYou’re probably right ros, good to see you here today..
February 8th, 2009 at 7:04 am