Comments on: Leahy endorses ‘truth commission’ to investigate Bush DOJ abuses.

By: fantheflames

fantheflames — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:08:35 +0000

The Senate and House Judiciary committees are just as clueless as are the 9th district judges and 9th circuit court of Appeals judges out here in California.
Just once in a long while Congress gets a glimmer of reality like in the Pledge to the Flag case, in calling the Judges out here crazy. Even the US Supreme Court has stated the judges out here do not even know how to interpret the law.
Judge Sullivan’s recent discovery of Illegal acts by the DOJ is nothing new. It is a decades old Standard and Practice of DOJ attorneys to be unethical, deceitful, use perjury both verbal and written, to use suborned false statements obtained from government agencies to insert into filed court documents.
It is very well hidden by the DOJ through the efforts of the OPR and OIG. The OPR ignores any complaints made by citizens of such abuses by DOJ attorneys. The OIG on the other hand just never investigates any complaints made by citizens of such abuses by DOJ attorneys.
The entire Judicial system is heading for a major meltdown if nothing is forth coming to rectify these abuses of our legal rights by the DOJ.

By: A Patriot Acting

A Patriot Acting — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:12:22 +0000

Simply put, if Nixon and his crew had been prosecuted and jailed we would NOT have had to suffer Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and Karl Rove for eight years. They were ALL behind the scenes players in the Nixon Administration and the ONLY lessons that the Nixon pardon taught them was that government looks out for it’s own and don’t leave behind any overt evidence. So they acted under the pretense that there would be no consequences for there crimes and guess what…they appear to have been right. The crimes were committed in broad daylight, under our noses, with a proponderance of evidence left behind and STILL they knew that there would be no consequences. In the words of a prominant Republican who just happened to be a Progressive and a Historian, “Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.” He also said, “Justice consists not in being neutral between right and wrong, but in finding out the right and upholding it, wherever found, against the wrong” and “The death-knell of the republic had rung as soon as the active power became lodged in the hands of those who sought, not to do justice to all citizens, rich and poor alike, but to stand for one special class and for its interests as opposed to the interests of others.” Those words from President Theodore Roosevelt sadly ring as true today as they did in his time. If crimes can be proven to have occured we have no choice as a Nation of laws but to prosecute. For ALL men are considered equal in the eye of American law. If not then our Nation as we know it is dead.

By: Wang111

Wang111 — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:03:12 +0000

Leahy has become one of my role models.

The American people must continuously constructively aspire to bring Bush down.

Bush was absolute evil.

Bush was like Hitler.

Bush must be incarcerated without exception.

Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993

“GEORGE W. BUSH IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY” BLOG OF ANDREW YU-JEN WANG

ONLINE, ANTI-BUSH, EDUCATIONAL, SCHOLASTIC RESEARCH: LISTING OF MAJOR ISSUES

http://andrewyu-jenwang.blogspot.com/2008/10/bush-is-worst-president-in-american.html

By: Max-1

Max-1 — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:59:46 +0000

#49 acv said:

Obama said tonight, “We don’t torture.”

Now, where have I heard that before?

Same sh!t, different a$$hole, no?

Sorry people, the only “CHANGE” we’re gonna see is that it’s a different person repeating the same lies… What’s new?

By: acv

acv — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 04:24:30 +0000

A truth commission is a dead end and it is the making of someone who says “I’m more interested in looking forward.”

Obama said tonight, “We don’t torture.” My question is; who is “we,” the Obama Administration or the United States of America?! If we don’t do something about what happened here then the next guy might make Bush look like a good guy.

We don’t people see the dangers in all this?

By: athena12345

athena12345 — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:54:25 +0000

I appreciate that this issue is being addressed, but I ask the question: If I go and murder someone, and there is clear evidence of that, would there be a “truth commission” to find out what happened or would I be prosecuted for murder? Others may find this a simplistic example but I think it’s appropriate. Why should Bush/Cheney be above the law???? They are responsible for so much death, poverty, fear and misery. Why should they get away with murder and walk into the sunset? I am in agreement with prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi who wrote a book on the subject. (Here’s the link: http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/ ) When I think of Bush and Cheney walking into the sunset with those ridiculous smirks, without a clue as to the devastation and misery left in their wake, I feel so angry I hardly know what to do with it. I think Americans need to see JUSTICE SERVED. If anyone knows of a petition we can sign, please let us know.

By: dbearton

dbearton — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:06:42 +0000

The Criminal Bush must go to jail; to set an example for the future and to restore America.

By: SharksBreath

SharksBreath — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:25:24 +0000

I support a new holiday.

Drag any Republican and the Democratic leaders in the street and beat them day.

By: barrelhse

barrelhse — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:21:11 +0000

Leahy talks a lot. Doesn’t seem to do much else, though.

By: Ape-Man

Ape-Man — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:58:47 +0000

Let’s see how far TV goes to cover this development. CNN i’m looking in your direction… what’s the real situation?

By: 666lattes

666lattes — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:22:28 +0000

These criminals have already admitted to a number of their crimes on TV, with impunity. Anything other than a criminal trial is to be considered an attempt to cover-up the truth.

By: coskibum

coskibum — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:06:46 +0000

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy — One of the few people in Washington DC who have spoken the truth during the last eight years… I would like to heard the truth, better yet, I’d LOVE to see those who perpetrated crimes and lies against the American people brought to justice!

By: Robert M.

Robert M. — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:54:49 +0000

Zimzone Says:
——————————————————————————–
This will uncover ‘facts’ at the same level the 9/11 commission did.
Let’s start by an IRS audit of everyone holding office.
Everyone!

Next, randomly select U.S. Citizens for your commission. NOT elected officials or former office holders, but some folks from real government, say City Council or County Commissioners.
An American Voter

I have an idea. Let’s have a “Town Hall Commission.” This Commission will travel from town to town across the nation. At each town, a panel of recently unemployed retail store employees, bankrupt business owners, and foreclosed ex-home owners will listen to randomly selected bush administration officials explain why it was so important to send their sons and daughters off to become victims of IED’s in Iraq while Wall Street billionaires looted the economy, the Treasury, and the equity belonging to the middle class.

By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins

Bilbo Hussein Baggins — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:49:35 +0000

Leahy later added, “Rather than vengeance, we need a fair-minded pursuit of what actually happened. And sometimes is the best way to move forward is to find out the truth, find out what happened. And we do that to make sure it never happens again.”

The only way we can make sure that it never happens again is if we prosecute the people who committed the crimes.

By: Hoodathunk

Hoodathunk — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:43:30 +0000

The fact is there are lots of big think gurus who think that investigating the previous administration for possible crimes will ‘undermine the confidence of the American public in their government’ and lead to many bad things.

News Flash!!!! Most Americans already don’t trust the government and are saddened that because they believe there is nothing they can do about it! If you want to give America a real shot of confidence, show them that the law is the law. It isn’t a tradeable commodity. Investigating and prosecuting crimes isn’t a political game, it is a fact of life.

It is way past time to send the message out…if you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.

By: Hoodathunk

Hoodathunk — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:33:55 +0000

A note to the Obama administration…The phrase Justice is blind does not mean it cannot see. It means all are equal.

Not pursuing investigations of wrongdoing by the previous administration is pandering. It also renders Justice not only blind but deaf and dumb as well.

By: Max-1

Max-1 — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:31:52 +0000

Dear Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT),
If we can’t take care of our own, then how are we supposed to take care of al-CIA-duh?

By: MapleStreet

MapleStreet — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:30:40 +0000

Can the good senator come to my bank robbery trial and argue for fact finding and not vengance ?

By: Max-1

Max-1 — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:29:53 +0000

If “We The People”, in order to form a more perfect Union, aren’t equal under the law, then Justice is not equal. Period!

If Bush Officials, including Bush and Cheney aren’t held to account and made to bear consequences, then Justice is denied. Period.

MLK Jr. said it best. “Silence is a betrayal of Justice.”

A “TRUTH COMMISSION” is a way of silencing the truth when it does not support consequential accountability, which, Leahy has already objected to.

By: Zimzone

Zimzone — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:28:35 +0000

This will uncover ‘facts’ at the same level the 9/11 commission did.
Senator, as the object of Cheney’s infamous ‘go phuck yourself’ statement, do really believe a commission will resolve anything?

I didn’t think so.

Let’s start by an IRS audit of everyone holding office.

Everyone!

That will at least tell us who’s honest in office and who could be considered for your ‘commission’, and it will resolve the current issue of Republicans claiming all Dems are tax evaders.

Next, randomly select U.S. Citizens for your commission. NOT elected officials or former office holders, but some folks from real government, say City Council or County Commissioners.

It’s imperative to have honest, objective citizens find justice. America cannot trust you Congress Critters anymore.

Thank you, Senator,
An American Voter