Huckabee: ‘One thing is clear,’ the economic recovery package is ‘anti-religious.’
Huckabee: ‘One thing is clear,’ the economic recovery package is ‘anti-religious.’
In an e-mail to supporters yesterday, former Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR) wrote, “The dust is settling on the ‘bipartisan’ stimulus bill and one thing is clear: It is anti-religious.” To support his claim, Huckabee “pointed to a provision in both the House and Senate versions banning higher education funds in the bill from being used on a ‘school or department of divinity.’” But as Steve Benen explains, “Huckabee is bearing false witness“:
[T]his myth has been making the rounds in right-wing circles for about a week. Originally, the American Center for Law and Justice, a right-wing legal group formed by TV preacher Pat Robertson, said the stimulus bill includes a provision that would prohibit “religious groups and organizations from using” buildings on college campuses. [...]
[T]he standard language in the bill simply blocks spending for on-campus buildings that are used primarily for religion (like a chapel, for example). This same language has been part of education spending bills for 46 years. It’s just the law, and it’s never been controversial.
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That’s the good news, Chuckleberry…
February 11th, 2009 at 9:41 amThe only separation these clowns understand is about people and their money.
The government isn’t supposed to support religion. Its why they get tax exempt status. If you can’t get enough money from your ‘flock’ in donations, you might want to take a look at your message.
February 11th, 2009 at 9:45 amThe rule is “areligious”, not antireligious. Big difference, preacher.
February 11th, 2009 at 9:48 amWho let the Squirrels out?
February 11th, 2009 at 9:50 amThe Huckster needs to take a deep breath, head down to the nearest Taco Bell and thank the Good Lord for Nachos Supreme. The more he keeps his mouth full, hopefully the less he will speak.
February 11th, 2009 at 9:52 amHuckabee: “One thing is clear…I’ve got nothing.”
February 11th, 2009 at 9:52 amThanks for the link to Huck PAC. I couldn’t help thinking it should read P-Huck.
February 11th, 2009 at 9:52 amAs in “What the P-Huck?”!
February 11th, 2009 at 9:53 amWhy rely on the government to help y’all, Huck… don’t you have a gawd for that?
February 11th, 2009 at 9:55 amI should hope that any bill coming out of our secular government should direct taxpayer funds to secular projects.
I say, eliminate the deficit by taxing the churches that stick their noses into politicking!
February 11th, 2009 at 9:57 amYeah, well? Is this a bad thing?
The devoutly religious are the most dangerous people on earth and contribute more to the divisiness of people across the world than any other factor.
Why on earth would we wish to promote religion with tax dollars – it’s like putting a gun to our own head.
February 11th, 2009 at 9:58 amWhy would the stimulus bill have anything to do with religion at all? We need to get America working again. Religion has nothing to do with it. This is a stupid argument.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:02 amHuckabee and the other wingers need to concentrate on the Book, the Bible. They are not in government and need to stay the hell out of it and they should allow the government to stay out of their churches, otherwise, they should start paying income tax, property tax, etc.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:04 am“Bearing false witness” means nothing to ‘holier than thou’ types like Huckabee, Palin, Bush, etc.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:04 amJeezuz Christ, Huckleberry — give it a rest!!!
February 11th, 2009 at 10:05 amlarkohio says:
BINGO… it’s the old misdirection tactic. But really, what an old OLD piece of garbage argument Huck is raising.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:06 amDr. Matt Hussein,
February 11th, 2009 at 10:06 amThanks for the link. I am printing it now so I can read it later.
One would hope that the entire federal government would be anti-religious.
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog/
February 11th, 2009 at 10:06 ami forget her name and the organization, but nancy skinner interviewed a guest on monday who claimed that even the wealthy – “even george bush!” – would could get medicaid because of provisions in the bill…
nancy set her straight, calling her arguments disingenuous…
i didn’t hear it all – maybe someone else could elaborate…
February 11th, 2009 at 10:09 amit was just such an obvious and ridiculous ploy…
This thread should be bringing out ruptured rectum in short order. Ooohhhhhh, Darrylllllll………
I just watched Inherit the Wind the other day. One line worth repeating. READ YOUR DARWIN
February 11th, 2009 at 10:14 amhuck, the gop was in complete power for 6 years, why didn’t they ban abortion and kill all the gays for you?
February 11th, 2009 at 10:16 amIt is all about keeping the base fired up. Huckabee has to manufacture false issues since talking about the record of the Bush administration is a sure loser. His greul is getting pretty thin by now, however.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:17 amHuck is working the base to raise his profile and $$ for his next prez campaign.
Fact is, this claim is bogus, overblown and FoxNews blown up.
All this tries to do is to not have the gov’t fund building places of worship or those meant primarily for worhsip.
This is not new. This have been in Fed Govt bills for a long, long, long time.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:21 amThat’s “President-elect Huckabee” to y’all.
…right, Daryll?
February 11th, 2009 at 10:22 am(… let’s see if that Daryll-proofs this thread…)
February 11th, 2009 at 10:23 amralph the wonder llama Says:
(… let’s see if that Daryll-proofs this thread…)
Nothing about homos in the subject, Ralph. I think we’re safe.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:25 amBoy… these guys sure are determined to SOMETHING to soil themselves over, aren’t they? What will it be next? Will one of them decide Mother nature has a liberal bias because both the oceans and sky are, well, BLUE, and not red?
February 11th, 2009 at 10:26 amPass the collection plate, Huckster, then STFU.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:29 amAin’t seen Darlyy around these parts much since November…heh.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:30 amSO the corollary to Half-a-bee’s argument would be that the bill should therefore include funding for religious groups to use (rent) campuses facilities?
That sounds like PORK to me (ironic as even Christians aren’t supposed to consume pork, according to ‘God).
February 11th, 2009 at 10:40 amMike Huckabee is the worst kind of zealot. He not only wants to preach his divisive religion views with a megaphone, he wants the taxpayers to pay for the megaphone.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:41 amby the way, that is one fugly lectern! Who the hell made that?
February 11th, 2009 at 10:42 amRUCerious Says:
Ain’t seen Darlyy around these parts much since November…heh.
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He hasn’t been around much since Zooey went to his house when he was gone and peed in the bird bath, amongst other atrocities.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:44 amApollo
February 11th, 2009 at 10:44 am5th Estate Says:
by the way, that is one fugly lectern! Who the hell made that?
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That’s gotta be Regent University. It’s so “Imperical Roman”.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:45 amHuckleberry is a standing joke…ANYONE who can go on Fixed Noise to fill the continuation of the black hole expansion that Foxed Noise is clearly talking to himself and maybe three-four others..
He is clearly delusional and should be allowed to continue and make his case to the peeling paint on the walls..
February 11th, 2009 at 10:46 amWhat a dipstick. Trying to whip up the reactionary conservative right’s favorite emotion: victimhood.
Brings out the anti-religious in a person, doesn’t it?
February 11th, 2009 at 10:53 amOld Goat Says:
Why rely on the government to help y’all, Huck… don’t you have a gawd for that?
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That’s the basic cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy all those red state fundies live with, Old Goat. Condemn the “evil” government, pray to God for salvation, then wait back at the doublewide for the welfare check.
Take a closer look at the postmark on the envelope, fundies. That check was wasn’t delivered from Heaven.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:54 amTROS says;
Zooey peed in Daryll’s bird-bath? You GO girl! Zooey rocks!
Good morning, Zooey, wherever you are.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:54 amDr. Hussein Matt Says:
The right-wing wackos can bring religion into the schools as soon as they allow biology and chemistry into the churches. Deal?
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Well, from the rate of teen pregnancies in red states, I’d say they already let at least biology into the churches.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:56 am5th Estate Says:
That sounds like PORK to me (ironic as even Christians aren’t supposed to consume pork, according to ‘God).
The prohibition was given to the Jews; was lifted for Christians under the “new covenant” which did away with blood sacrifice and the old Levitical laws.
I enjoy and agree with most of your posts, but don’t accidentally take a page from Huckster’s book by flexing a fact out of context. . . as he’s trying to flex the prohibition of the State establishing any religion.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:56 amUncle Ho Says:
TROS says;
Zooey peed in Daryll’s bird-bath?
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Amongst other things. Don’t you remember when Darryl came here, complaining his house had been vandalized back in Virginia? Zooey led the charge on that one and then we all pitched in.
I personally made the milk in his fridge go bad… heh…
February 11th, 2009 at 10:58 amIf religion wants some economic stimulus, they should lobby for a tax cut. Oh wait…
February 11th, 2009 at 11:01 amWill one more Trillion of stimulus get rid of religion completely???? I’ll pay higher taxes just for that!!!!!
February 11th, 2009 at 11:03 am5th Estate Says:
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by the way, that is one fugly lectern! Who the hell made that?
Anybody know where to find a good carpenter? These clowns don’t have a clue.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:05 amWhat else can be expect after Rev. Huck did his magic act of the fake floating cross. Rev. Huck is showing he’s really not that Regligious at all.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:06 amTROS; I either missed that or I can’t remember. They say memory is the 2nd thing to go.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:08 amTRoS, Daryll’s house gets broken into and suddenly Mrs. Daryll is with child?
Got something to tell us?
February 11th, 2009 at 11:10 amI think I figured out what happened to poor Daryll:
He [Huckabee] is the next President. It is God’s will.
Comment by Daryll January 2, 2008 @ 11:34 am
Deuteronomy 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:15 amby the way, that is one fugly lectern! Who the hell made that?
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That’s gotta be Regent University. It’s so “Imperical Roman”.
but…but…weren’t the Gooooopers dissing Obama for the use of similar columns in his nomination acceptance? but…but…don’t the same stylistic rules apply? Wouldn’t that lecturn be considered pretentious and too Greek in the lets-worship-gods-not-Gawd way?
February 11th, 2009 at 11:18 amnanlichi Says:
“Daryll’s house gets broken into and suddenly Mrs. Daryll is with child?”
It’s a miracle!
February 11th, 2009 at 11:21 amUncle Ho Says:
I just watched Inherit the Wind the other day. One line worth repeating. READ YOUR DARWIN
February 11th, 2009 at 10:14 am
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Who’s turning 200 tomorrow, FYI. And his Origin of Species turns 150 this year.
Happy Birthday, Charles!
February 11th, 2009 at 11:25 amDr. Hussein Matt says;
No, not raptured, ruptured.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:28 amThere, I fixed it for you. :-)
What?! Huckabee concerned about something else besides sodomy – oh my goodnissss! Huckabee, another example of hypocritical godlessness – if that’s a word – LOL
February 11th, 2009 at 11:29 amhussein toasterhead.
we celebrate the birthday of Charles Darwin and The Origin of Species.
One of the all-time enlightened thinkers.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:31 amCould Charles Darwin ever have imagined the evolving of our species to the point of humans having heating elements in their skulls?
February 11th, 2009 at 11:32 amHuckabee’s recovery package: Everyone gets a Bible, a popcorn popper and a .410 shotgun.
Too bad if you’re a squirrel.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:36 amHuckabee: ‘One thing is clear,’ the economic recovery package is ‘anti-religious.’
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Um…by this logic, the U.S. Constitution is “anti-religious”, too — by the way Huckabee apparently defines the term.
Huckabee needs to give it a rest.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:37 amNevar, please explain the heating element comment.
Obviously, some of us haven’t evolved as far as we should have…..
February 11th, 2009 at 11:41 amthe man’s name is “huck”,
“huck” huckabee.
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and he’s a jesus man.
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February 11th, 2009 at 11:43 amnanlichi … I was just poking at toasterhead… knowing he has a sense of humor…
February 11th, 2009 at 11:43 am;)
Jesus freak, rather.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:52 amCould the American public possibly be as stupid as Huck has concluded? Perhaps but I think that they are getting smarter – simply for their own survival. The Christian right just repeats and repeats and repeats the same tired nonsensical rhetoric.
February 11th, 2009 at 11:56 amYou guys are missing the point. If you play the Stimuls bill backwards, you heard words in Aramic that say “God is dead”
February 11th, 2009 at 12:00 pmThanks Nevar. I looked at that from every angle, and just felt dense. That was a pretty obscure reference so I don’t feel so dumb.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:00 pmOne thing is clear, the world was created 4.5+ Billion years ago.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:05 pmtelestai #46…( on Pork) The prohibition was given to the Jews; was lifted for Christians under the “new covenant” which did away with blood sacrifice and the old Levitical laws.
Fair enough ( and I appreciate your frequent comments too).
But, if God is the Alpha and Omega and His word is law, and HE is perfect, why the change, why the ‘nuance’?
It’s a rhetorical question of course. I am as guilty in this instance, as you charge me, as Huckabee is.
Except that I was making a joke with a play on words) whereas Huckabee makes policy and whilst I’m subject to challenges here, Huckabee is well protected from the same.
No need to take this further, it’s good to have you around telestai, and I shall remember your correct admonishment–the quality of a joke is arguably defined by it’s truth or absurdity and mine was somewhere in between. Joking about religion is a serious business.
Cheers!
February 11th, 2009 at 12:10 pmHuckabee is the Prophet of the AntiChrist.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:11 pmnanlichi #50 Anybody know where to find a good carpenter? These clowns don’t have a clue.
I happen to be a good carpenter ( actually cabinet/furniture maker and architectural woodworker)–or rather I was. Interestingly although most of my clients were millionaires ( and multimillionaires) they always stopped spending during economic downturns, so in fact when times are tough the rich DON’T create jobs for the working classes–they either hoard or invest elsewhere.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:20 pm5th Estate Says: But, if God is the Alpha and Omega and His word is law, and HE is perfect, why the change, why the ‘nuance’?
Maybe he can change his mind when he sees people don’t get the message? Don’t forget, he has a sense of humor too. Just look at the platypus.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:32 pm5th Estate, I too was joking about religion with a reference to the Huckabee type Christians not being able to find a good carpenter.
I work with carpenters, most are wood butchers, but the cabinet maker is an artisan. Slow as molasses but quality.
The rich will spend their money eventually. They will swoop in like vultures to pick the bones clean of those of us who can’t keep our homes. There are winners in this economy, no doubt. Those that have the cash to take advantage of other’s losses.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:32 pmWhew. I love to read the comments here on TP because you all make me feel just a bit more sane. Sometimes I get so disillusioned with the American public that it makes we want to leave the country. Thank goodness….not gawd…that there are others who think this way.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:37 pmnanlichi Says:
TRoS, Daryll’s house gets broken into and suddenly Mrs. Daryll is with child?
Got something to tell us?
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Ewwwwww… t’anks a lot for THAT one. I may be guilty of a a lot of, ummm, “interesting” sins, but knocking up an inflatable doll isn’t one of them.
If “the Missus” is indeed “w/ child”, no wonder Darryl believes in miracles.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:45 pmPoor Huckleberry was just jealous that Rush was named King of the GOP. You can’t get any street cred with that group making logical arguments.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:54 pmThe trolls must be at some kind of meeting this morning. Maybe their picking up they pay from the RNC. Some of them are so proficient it could take them awhile to haul away all those rolls of nickels.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:55 pm“It is anti-religious.”
That’s a good thing!
February 11th, 2009 at 12:59 pmA damn good thing!
Definition of a republican: Someone who has the innate ability to lie, cheat and steal with impunity all in the name of some higher purpose.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:03 pmShayne – They’re just listening to their political soaps on the radio, absorbing a fresh selection of lies to tell when they come honking through here later on. Just like the fictional Borg, they have to “plug in” for a while each day to stay in sync with the hive mind.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:04 pmYeah that was my other thought, they hadn’t received their talking points yet. I didn’t know they got “plugged in” to get them. It makes sense now though. :)
February 11th, 2009 at 1:17 pmnanlichi… the carpenter reference blew right by me the first time, LOL!
NB: Funnily enough a lot of Christians of Huckabee’s ilk I’ve noticed often describe Jesus as a carpenter whereas the Bible only describes his cuckolded father Joseph as such.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:20 pmTHANK GOD!!!!!!
February 11th, 2009 at 1:42 pmIdiots like Huck give religion a bad name. Spend a little more time is silent prayer and contemplation.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:52 pmRepublicans – A four syllable word for liars.
Don’t pray in our schools and we won’t think in your churches.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:52 pmIf God exists, may he strike Huckabee with a lightning bolt!
February 11th, 2009 at 2:04 pmMay he also help Obama if the Bush/Chenney officials get away with War Crimes, treason, crimes against the Constitution!
February 11th, 2009 at 2:06 pmWherever three gather in my name doesn’t require a government subsidy.
February 11th, 2009 at 7:56 pmOne thing is clear, Huckabee, like Palin, is a Christian right-wingnut. Huckabee is a typical Baptist hypocrite (fear-monger, hate-monger, war-monger), more Anti-Christ then Christian.
February 11th, 2009 at 8:12 pmHuckabee is right, and it’s a damn good thing! Conservative Christians have enthusiastically, unreservedly and aggressively supported the Bush-Cheney agenda, including massive tax cuts for the wealthy, astronomical deficits, reductions in services for the needy, warmongering, war profiteering, war crimes such as torture, forced disappearance and slaughter of civilians, infringements on civil liberties, carte blanche for Wall Street predators, corrupt defense contracting, and other outrages.
Since these things are part and parcel of the religious right’s agenda, we should be pleased that the stimulus package doesn’t pass muster with them.
February 11th, 2009 at 10:57 pmWe already endured a Dick who was head of the vice presidency for eight, torturous years…so what is Huckabee’s excuse?
February 11th, 2009 at 11:24 pm