Recession Reality: Sen. George Voinovich and Rep. John Boehner’s Ohio
Recession Reality: Sen. George Voinovich and Rep. John Boehner’s Ohio
Of the GOP members opposing the recovery package, Sen. George Voinovich (R-OH) and Rep. John Boehner (R-OH) seem among the most willing to ignore the economic toll being inflicted on their constituents. In pressuring his caucus to unanimously oppose the plan, Boehner claimed the package would not create jobs. Voinovich feigned interest in compromising on the legislation, only to drop out of negotiations halfway through. Yesterday, he voted against the package. Meanwhile, economic conditions in Ohio continue to deteriorate:
As local news reports explain, automakers and other businesses are downsizing and relocating to save costs, while cities across the state are cutting their budgets and laying off employees. Ohio’s other Senator, Sherrod Brown (D), who voted in favor of the bill, explained how the plan will help Ohio residents: “It’s going to help with Medicaid, it’s going to help…with extension of unemployment benefits, and it will help with weatherization to put more people to work. And it will create jobs.”
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Party over Country again, eh?
Boner will tow this line until reality sneaks up on him and bites him in the ass. Then, he’ll feign ignorance and claim he always supported the bill.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:01 pmI think Obama needs to do a Town Hall in Ohio, preferably in Boner’s district.
Ohio still has Boehner because they still keep voting for Boehner! Gerrymandering must be working well in his district.
All GOPers from the Rust Belt who continue to vote against these emergency measures better watch their backs. There is far more at stake for their constituents than their desire for ideological purity.
PEACE
February 11th, 2009 at 1:02 pmRepukes are only interested in helping their wealthy and corporate benefactors. Ordinary commoners are only to be pissed on.
Leona Helmsley- the queen of mean said: Only little people pay taxes.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:02 pmLast time I checked, the deficit that Mr. Obama claims to “have inherited” was in part the result of the last two budgets he voted FOR.
Lies, lies and more lies…
February 11th, 2009 at 1:03 pmUncle Ho,
Maybe if we all beg Santa Obama-Claus for a new house or a better job, he will deliver for us…
That’s the role of our government now…
Welcome to the United Nanny States America!
February 11th, 2009 at 1:05 pmsure, Mr. Tread – it’s all his fault – brilliant surmisal, libertarian friend.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:05 pmNo, not all his fault – but he is part of the problem…
February 11th, 2009 at 1:06 pmwhat kind of half-baked, belligerent welfare rant is that, Mr. Tread?
not familiar with decimal places? powers of ten? you work for BofA or something?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:06 pmHow do you claim to have inherited a deficit that you in fact voted for?
Please explain…
February 11th, 2009 at 1:07 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
No, not all his fault – but he is part of the problem…
February 11th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
You obviously support what went on in this country for the last 8 years. You’re a larger part of the problem.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:07 pmthere are some websites where your comments would make sense to the other commenters – try them out.
Redstate
February 11th, 2009 at 1:07 pmLittle Green Footballs
Free Republic
Yeah, tom
Just got my big “bonus” and I’m sitting on easy street now…
February 11th, 2009 at 1:08 pmDon’tTread says;
Does that mean you will refuse your social security checks?
Didn’t think so.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:08 pmhis was the deciding vote, huh?
without Obama’s vote, Bush’s budgets wouldn’t have passed?
that is what you’re saying, and it doesn’t compute.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:08 pmActaully Zooey, I don’t.
I am angry at the deficits and the increase in the debt and I blame everyone who created it – Dems and Repubs.
The Governing Class is the problem – the system of kickbacks and political payoffs that I thought Obama would end, but he is going to allow Pelosi, Reid et al. to continue and in fact increase the size and scope of the corruption.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:09 pmLet me get this straight. The economic collapse is President Obama’s fault, and 9/11 was Clinton’s.
Looks like that last guy just did a great job keeping us safe and prosperous, and any perceived problems are all the Dem’s fault.
PEACE
February 11th, 2009 at 1:09 pmdon’t look now, libertarian friend, but you’ve been getting trodden on for a long, long time – you’re just blaming the wrong set of boots for it.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:09 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
Yeah, tom
Just got my big “boner” and I’m sitting on easy street now…
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Ewwwww… must you, in front of the children?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:10 pmUncle Ho Says:
Don’tTread says;
Does that mean you will refuse your social security checks?
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And until then, he won’t be turning down the welfare checks either.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:10 pmtom – unlike yourself, I don’t need to hear people slobberingly agree with me to feel good about myself – I like the challenge of a debate.
I’m sorry you fear just that.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:10 pmAhh, DTOM2009?
Last time I checked, Bush ‘inherited’ a budget surplus and quickly turned it into a record deficit in large part thanks to his ill conceived war on Iraq… something Obama, and most Americans, were AGAINST.
also,
DontTreadOnMe2009 Says:em>Lies, lies and more lies…
Can you post this before every one of your posts?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:10 pmIt’s truly helpful when one is just skimming and doesn’t have time to read everything you’ve typed, thanks!
15 – and you figured it would just be about a 3-week job? are you serious?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:11 pmI think we should take him up on the request an not tread on him in 2009. Obviously, someone HAS tread on his head in some previous year and brain damage has resulted. We bleeding heart liberals should pacify him.
Voinovich can talk an independent game but he falls in line when it is time to vote. I will be glad to see him replaced in 2010 as he has announced his retirement. Sherrod Brown, on the other hand, is a pleasure to listen to and he votes progressively.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:11 pmlook up “debate” one more time.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:11 pm@ #1, Zimzone Says:
Party over Country again, eh?
That’s what ‘parties’ do. That’s why Washington and others among the Founders cautioned against them.
It’s exacerbated by the fact that there is no more than a dollar’s worth of diffeence between ‘em. Oh, there are individual differences. But look at the parties, themselves– not their proclamations, their records, and you will see that both are pursuing the same ends: more corporatism, more militarism, more globalism, less liberty, less govt. service, less benefits.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:12 pmI’m sorry you folks can only blame those responsible for part of the problem but can’t see that the Dems are just as culpable…
a little shortsighted, I think.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:12 pmYou know, I live in Ohio, and I wrote both of my senators and my representative: Mike Turner, Republican, last week to urge them to pass the stimulus bill. The only one I have heard back from is Senator Brown. The stories of people who live in my town and have been laid off after working hard for years just break my heart. It appears, that Voinovich and Turner have not gotten the message about how tough it is for ordinary people here in Ohio. This morning the on my way to work I saw a place where the Catholic church distributes food for the needy. The line was very long. I only conclude that they don’t give a rat’s behind about the people of Ohio. They have theirs, and to heck with the rest of us.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:13 pmSpenser’s mom:
And the problems in the Middle East are all Carter’s fault, and we would have “won” in Vietnam if it weren’t for the dirty hippies, and FDR caused the Great Depression, and if only we’d elected Strom Thurmond in 1948 we wouldn’t have had all that unpleasentness of the Civil Rights Movement.
What did I miss?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:14 pmHas everyone heard the latest GOPer talking point about how Bush inherited a recession, and was able to climb out of it with his tax cuts?
It’s funny about that pesky history/fact stuff, but I don’t recall the ’90s being a recession. But perhaps I don’t have access to those special insurgent economic factoids.
PEACE
February 11th, 2009 at 1:14 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says nothing of consequence:
February 11th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Ah, you’re here to b!tch and moan about everyone at fault — excluding yourself, since you don’t have the balls to take a position, and don’t even attempt to offer a solution.
Dismissed.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:14 pmtom,
No, it wasn’t only Obama’s vote that passed the last two budgets…
So are you exonerating him from all responsibility for what he voted for?
Why does he get a pass?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:15 pmanyone have the link to the graph of GDP compared to party in power over the last 80 years.
very informative. illuminating, even.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:15 pmbecause I understand how things work in Congress.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:15 pmZooey,
Here’s one for you…
Limit spending to infrastructure and the military.
That’d cut this boondoggle down by about 75%
February 11th, 2009 at 1:16 pm(and 50cent words won’t salvage your nickel-and-dime arguments)
February 11th, 2009 at 1:17 pmcut the defense budget by 30% – there would be more money in the system than anyone’s ever seen.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:17 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
Zooey,
Here’s one for you…Limit spending to infrastructure and the military.That’d cut this boondoggle down by about 75%
That’s a pretty straight forward position, where are the numbers that back it up? Or are you just pulling percentages out of your a$$?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:17 pmI always wondered why reasonable people would think that the owners of the country would turn management of their property and system over to anybody who wasn’t completely trustworthy, or who posed even the tiniest, remotest, slightest, slimmest CHANCE of threatening to undo the Status Quo. Obama’s ultimate ineffectiveness as a “change agent” is testified to by his being where he is. If there were the slightest danger that he’d actually offer substantive change, he’d not be where he is today: that is, I think he’s probably a combination of a caretaker and a scapegoat, a placeholder until the next overt fascist coup comes along to plunder whatever’s left…
February 11th, 2009 at 1:19 pmSooo.. donttread…… it sure sounds like you are an anarchist, and hate everything about the government. Are you for privatization of everything? Do you believe that the corporations will do better at seeing to the needs of the country? Or, perhaps, you’d rather some OTHER country came in and took us over. Which would that be, then? Who do you think should be the owners of all the Americas? Who should be “running” this show?
Just curious.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:19 pmHope you all enjoy being dependent on the Nanny State…
Oh, Mr. Obama – can you get me a kitchen and a bathroom? and maybe a new car?
How pathetic the American people have become because of dependence on Government…
What happened to the American Enterprise and Ingenuity and the unbreakable Spirit….
Oh, I know – it’s all Bush’s fault – you guys are a bunch of frickin parrots…
How about using your brain, folks?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:20 pmtom,
Cut HHS by that much and you’d have even more!
February 11th, 2009 at 1:21 pmTreadless, how about responding to a serious question in post 39? Or are you all talk?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:21 pmI have watched how Ohio has deteriorated over the past 30years. The first time I visited south eastern Ohio to visit family (I was 12 then)the place was jumping. A town of about 50,000 back then is now 19,000. Great progress!!
I don’t visit much anymore. Besides my family…stores are empty…no bars for good times, the good people have left leaving the red necks. It seemed like a time warp…go back to the days of John Boy.
My family immagrated to the US over 80years ago…my parents immigrated to Canada back in 64. Living in Canada under our system, we have accumulated greater wealth and prosparity then our counter parts in the US who had a one generation head start.
You may all fight over claiming the US will never be a socialist country….keep fighting, while the rest of us who have been living in a socialistic society progress even further ahead.
The definition of US Insanity ….is doing the same thing over and over and waiting for a different result.
I wish I could give some hope to my family in Ohio, however if they keep voting for idiots…expect idiot laws for the idiots.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:21 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
Zooey,
Here’s one for you…
Limit spending to infrastructure and the military.
That’d cut this boondoggle down by about 75%
February 11th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
How would you make that work, genius? I’m guessing you are home-schooled, you can fight the fire that breaks out in your trailer, your kids actually like peanutbutter and salmonella sammies, and you can fund the legal system with the change you find in your cat piss-soaked sofa?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:21 pmGee, Retread, I can’t help but applaud your astute perception that a single Senator carries major responsibility for the outrageous spending approved by a 6 year controlled Republican legislature. Or that when the said Dims managed to get a voice in the House, the evenly divided Senate was more than happy to negate any dissension before it was passed on to a President who enjoyed using his veto power knowing full well the votes weren’t there in Congress to over ride. Not to mention his use of signing statements to ignore the things he didn’t like.
Your repug buddies are fully responsible for the state we are now in. Just listen to them whine and distort.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:21 pmAfter 3 weeks on the job???
How long would it take you and your friends from the vegan co-op cafe to fix the country??
Seriously dude – do you think there is magic that could be employed or something?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:21 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
tom,
No, it wasn’t only Obama’s vote that passed the last two budgets…
So are you exonerating him from all responsibility for what he voted for?
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Just went over to Wiki to take a closer look at how the Fed budget is passed.
One thing for sure, the PRESIDENT presents the budget he wants to Congress.
Then, both chambers go at it, piecemeal.
To say Obama voted FOR the deficit is mendacious, at the very least.
I’d say the deficits are a rolling consequence of EIGHT years of Botch’s policies… endless tax cuts, endless war. Sorry, you DON’T get to pass off Botch’s disastrous admin on Obama.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:23 pmLet’s check the facts…
The Surplus budgets you all praise were passed by Republican controlled Congress.
The Democrats have not passed a balanced or surplus budget since Andrew Jackson was Prez.
Suck on that.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:23 pmCheck the third graph down, “Change in Average Revenue and Spending by Administration” and then defend the assumption that GOPers are the fiscal conservatives:
http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm
Not a single Democratic president spent more than revenues, and not a single Republican president spent less.
PEACE
February 11th, 2009 at 1:23 pmMr. Tread – you’re not familiar with the Federal budget at all are you??
(and no, you can’t count what you heard from Rush or Hannity as “knowledge”)
February 11th, 2009 at 1:24 pmZooey,
You call that an argument?
Sounds more like a diatribe to me…
I recommend Zoloft.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:24 pmNo, Mr. Tread – you suck on it.
You’re about to get yourself flagged the F outta here, broseph.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:24 pmREtread, I’m still waiting for a serious, civil response to the question below. Here’s your chance to prove you are more than a mindless troll reguritating right-wing talking points.
DontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
Zooey,
Here’s one for you…Limit spending to infrastructure and the military.That’d cut this boondoggle down by about 75%
I’m
February 11th, 2009 at 1:25 pmWow, a repug troll mentions the word Surplus. The last surplus we had was a result of 8 years of a Democratic President. And pissed away by a repug.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:25 pmOpps, forgot the question…Please offer the numbers to support your claim.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:26 pmStill waiting for Tokin Librul to tell me how he would fix everything in 3 weeks or less.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:26 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
Hope you all enjoy being dependent on the Nanny State…
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Funny, innit?
Red states traditionally receive more Federal dollars than they pay in… I’ve never herd you complain about THAT bit of welfare.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:27 pmRep of Stupidity,
So, now the entire Congress get a pass on their Constitutional responsibility for spending our money…
The Prez submits a budget request, which the Congress can accept, revise or reject…
Too bad Congress has lost their cojones.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:28 pmThat was President Clinton’s budget, dumbass.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:28 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
Suck on that.
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Oh, PUL-LEASE…
The three biggest debtors amongst US presidents have been Bushes I & II, and Reagan, by far. And W ran up a bigger debt in his eight years than all other pres COMBINED.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:29 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
Zooey,
You call that an argument?
Sounds more like a diatribe to me…
I recommend Zoloft.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Thanks for letting me know you’ve got NOTHING.
I recommend a spine.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:29 pmHoodathunk.
Who controlled Congress when those Surpluses were passed?
Out of control government spending is the problem – both parties have proven themselves capable of it.
The National Debt is now at 80% of our annual GDP.
You all ok with that?
You have any proposals to reduce it?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:29 pmSo why do so-called “blue collar Ohioians” keep sending back Boehner? Does he hate the gays and love guns?
Don’t forget, Jean Schmidt is from Ohio and she keeps going back every 2 years.
Maybe those districts shouldn’t get any stimulus money because it’s so “socialistic”.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:30 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says: The Prez submits a budget request, which the Congress can accept, revise or reject…
Too bad Congress has lost their cojones.
Don’t worry, retread, we are working on that one. BTW, the control of said Congress that agreed to these budgets was repug.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:30 pmTreadless is a concern troll.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:31 pmSarah Palin = real life welfare queen.
(sorry – that’s nuthin but troll bait, but I couldn’t resist)
February 11th, 2009 at 1:32 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
Rep of Stupidity,
So, now the entire Congress get a pass on their Constitutional responsibility for spending our money…
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Huh??? That’s not what I said. Nice try at obfuscation. My point was just how complicated the whole budgeting process is. The budget doesn’t get passed as a whole. Botch presented the budget he wanted. Both chambers went at piecemeal, putting monies in, taking them out. Botch then did the same. In the end, they passed a series of bills. Lord only knows what Botch did behind everybody’s back w/ his infamous “magical” signing statements malarky.
To say that Obama “voted for both budgets” is nonsense.
Botch may have presented both budgets, but past that it’s a free-for-all.
Nice try. No cigar. Not doing so well here this morning, are you?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:33 pmWho controlled Congress when those Surpluses were passed?
Actually, it was begun by the Dims. In the last few years the repug control was starting to dismantle regulation and control to undo the work. They did a good job of laying the groundwork for where we are today.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:35 pmClinton, Bush 1 & 2, Reagan, Carter – none of them voted on or passed the budgets that spent us into this mess.
It’s the Congress you uneducated fools, who are responsible for spending our money.
If you’d get past your need to follow a Cult of Personality, you might stop blaming and praising one person for all the problems or successes of our Government.
Did anyone here even go to college?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:36 pmtom,
The real welfare Queen is the Octo-mom out here in California.
A fitting example of how you can game the system to get the government to support your lifestyle…
February 11th, 2009 at 1:38 pmNo Tread says;
with your multiple posts blasting the nanny state , you still did not answer my question.
Does that mean you will refuse to accept your social security and welfare checks?
*crickets chirping*
February 11th, 2009 at 1:38 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
The National Debt is now at 80% of our annual GDP.
You all ok with that?
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Excuse me, what were you saying?
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/new/html/Fri_Dec_29_151111_2000.html
December 28, 2000
Today, President Clinton will announce that The United States is on course to eliminate its public debt within the next decade. The Administration also announced that we are projected to pay down $237 billion in debt in 2001. Due in part to a strong economy and the President’s commitment to fiscal discipline, the federal fiscal condition has improved for an unprecedented nine consecutive years. Based upon today’s new economic and budget projections for the coming 10 years from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB):
The United States can be debt-free this decade. By dedicating the entire budget surplus to debt reduction, The United States can eliminate its publicly held debt by FY 2009. The next Administration and Congress will need to decide what priorities to address: eliminate the public debt by FY 2010 and still use part of the surplus for responsible tax cuts, prescription drug benefits for Medicare recipients, and investments in key priorities like education and health care.
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http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm
If you look at the 60+ year record of debt since the end of WWII, starting with Truman’s term, the difference between the two parties’ contributions to our national debt level change considerably. Since 1946, Democratic presidents increased the national debt an average of only 3.2% per year. The Republican presidents stay at an average increase of 9.2% per year. Republican Presidents out borrowed and spent Democratic presidents by a three to one ratio. Putting that in very real terms; for every dollar a Democratic president has raised the national debt in the past 63 years Republican presidents have raised the debt by $2.84[5].
February 11th, 2009 at 1:39 pmDontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
It’s the Congress
ALL that you have a reichwing talking points. YOU are catapulting the reichwing propoganda, whether you know it or not. THAT right there is a recent new strategy — blame congress (low approval rating) NOT a person (say, a popular president). Nice try. You righties just LOVE some lies to try to gain power for partizan ends.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:39 pmGOP to citizens:
February 11th, 2009 at 1:40 pmWho cares about the economy when we have a culture war to fight and we must make sure Barack Obama fails so we can get back to our agenda of drowning the government in a bathtub.
Since both Carter and Clinton managed to have employment numbers increase in their terms, your lumping them in with the repug types is specious.
And it is the function of the Executive branch to provide direction, said direction to be implemented by the Legislative branch. Under Carter and Clinton, the American economy grew. Under Reagan and the Bushes, it declined.
Did you skip high school Civics class?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:40 pmnot very many people actually do that, dude. you’ve got some prejudice problems down in there that need to be addressed.
if you’re looking for how to “game” “the system” look to Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff, and all their golf buddies.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:40 pmNo tread;
February 11th, 2009 at 1:41 pmYes, I did graduate from college. I attended college under the Vietnam era GI Bill, but I EARNED it via the draft.
DontTreadOnMe2009 Says:
The real welfare Queen is the Octo-mom out here in California.
No — the REAL welfare queens are on Wall Street – and you gladly tossed them big fat welfare checks without a wimper, and you haven’t looked back, just like the rest of your kind. AND you still give them a pass on it all, too.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:41 pmCal Malenky says:
February 11th, 2009 at 1:43 pmI would have laughed if that were not sadly accurate.
When is Voiny up for re-election? Well, now it’s 2010…Hmm, maybe Ohio can do something very nice for the rest of the nation, real soon.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:44 pmMethinks the treaded on one is a bit too late with his moniker. The car that ran over his head when he was an infant is probably in a junk yard now.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:45 pmCould Tread be Grover Norquist’s alias?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:46 pmAs to your college question, retread, I doubt you studied psychology, sociology or anthropology. I also highly doubt you could have fit into one of the science programs. Economics is definitely out as are political science or history. That sort of leaves the Arts programs and you definitely lack the sensitivity for those so I’m guessing Communications.
If you even have any kind of degree.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pmRep. John Boehner and Sen. George Voinovich are paid to vote against the Stimulus Package. Sen. George Voinovich will not run for re election so what does he care if the people suffer he got his money to retire. Rep. John Boehner is th Majority Whip and get 10,000 dollars check from all the business for his vote. Look Boehner was even given out kick back checks for votes on the Floor of the House Rep.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pmRetread troll = pwned
Well done, y’all.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pm92 – Voinovich is retiring after this term.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:54 pmAnd retread, even your pitiful assertion that the octo-mom out in Ca is the ultimate welfare queen…she would get what a couple a grand a month for 18 years which works out to about $432,000.
Checked the retention awards for 1 year of the welfare queens on Wall Street?
February 11th, 2009 at 1:55 pmspencers mom Says:
Ohio still has Boehner because they still keep voting for Boehner! Gerrymandering must be working well in his district.
February 11th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
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Exactly. Why do you think the Republicans opposed funding for the Census Bureau in the stimulus package?
February 11th, 2009 at 2:00 pmHoodathunk,
I’ll bet anyone $1 the Octopussy Mom is a Republican.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:20 pmAnd remember, according to the head of the RNC, we shouldn’t vote for the bailout because it only creates jobs.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:22 pmTrolls are no longer needed with my patent pending TrollBlogger2009. Just fill in the blanks using the various options from the assigned list and you have an instant trollism. By using this device, you hold me blameless for any and all adverse reactions.
You ____A____ liberals are promoting ____B____ government and
_____C_____ with your ______D_____. If it weren’t for you and your _____A_____ leader, _____E_____, we’d have a great country. Why don’t you ____F_____.
A = unpatriotic, idiotic, whiney, fascist, criminal
February 11th, 2009 at 2:26 pmB = marxist, fascist, European, nanny, Big, godless
C = a welfare state, shia law, islamofascism, immorality
D = bleeding hearts, relative morality, hate, sinful ways
E = NObama, Clinton, Carter, Kennedy
F = love it or leave it, die, move to a muslim country, STFU
Zooey, with 14 kids, does it matter?
February 11th, 2009 at 2:27 pmOh she’s definitely a Republican. She asserted she doesn’t get any welfare while receiving food stamps and disability payments for two of her children.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:34 pmPLC; methinks you scored a bullseye with #103.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:50 pmRetreat better head down to Oklahoma and tell all those red staters who want federal relief for their disasters that they are a bunch of whiny babies who want to live in a nanny state.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:31 pmBoehner needs to hold a press conference and tell the good citizens of Ohio, who will be forced to take a pay cut or quit their job, why he voted NO! OH WAIT – that might be his funeral! Shyte he might get shot or shot at! LOL
Hey Donttread – if what you stated made any sense, then it’d be debatable. Check your facts. It’s that same attitude that’s gotten America into this horrible mess! You need a serious reality check!
February 11th, 2009 at 4:17 pmThe stooges, that voted for these RepubliCons, will inherit the wind.
February 11th, 2009 at 7:35 pmTrolls are equipped with what they think are electronic tar, feathers and a rail. Ugh.
Why is it no one mentions the cost of the Iraq War in comparison with these bailouts? $600 Billion according to some estimates and $2 Trillion by some. That this cost was mostly funded with debt and was off the budget? Who manipulated the truth to convince well intentioned people to support it?
These bailouts are needed now because we are starting to pay for our country’s excesses, and it is not just the credit market. It is all the money spent on destruction.
I remember saying back in 2002, if we can deliver a remote controlled cruise missile through the door of a suspected terrorist then we could certainly deliver health care through the door of most every American.
Stimulative spending must be measured as a creative force – as building something together. We have no idea what tax cuts will get us, that is left for the wealthy to decide. Last year mine went to gas. I’m sorry if some people are not stimulated by helping their country build something and solve problems.
I find it interesting that today is the 200th birthday of two of humanity’s luminaries – our 16th President Abraham Lincoln – and – Charles Darwin. Bush like Lincoln’s predecessor, James Buchanon, was more concerned with foreign adventures during a time when partisan divides were testing the Union. Meanwhile in many ways many people are stuck in a pre-1848 mindset – Absolutely!
For the Love of Humanity, Evolve towards Peace!
February 12th, 2009 at 2:56 pm