Conservatives Deny Reality, Claim Increasingly Popular Recovery Plan Is Losing Support
Conservatives Deny Reality, Claim Increasingly Popular Recovery Plan Is Losing Support
In his Wall Street Journal column today, former Bush adviser Karl Rove claims that House Republicans “are playing their hand extraordinarily well.” “House Republicans have used the stimulus bill to redefine their party, present ideas on how to revive the economy, and force congressional Democrats and the president to take ownership of the spending programs soon to be signed into law,” writes Rove.
As proof of their success, Rove claimed that “support for the stimulus is failing“:
The payoff is that support for the stimulus bill is falling. CBS News polling reveals a 12-point drop in support of the bill over the past month. Pew Research and Rasmussen have turned in similar numbers. The more Americans learn about the bill, the less they like it.
On Fox News this afternoon, Deputy Managing Editor Bill Sammon pushed the same message, saying that “public support has gradually declined as more and more details of this stimulus bill have come to light.” Later, during an interview with Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, Fox’s Trace Gallagher said the American people “support what the president is doing,” but “they don’t support this plan.” Watch it:
Though pollsters found “a modest decline” in support last week, the popularity of a recovery package has risen this week.
For instance, a Gallup poll released Monday found that 67 percent of Americans approve of Obama’s push for an economic recovery package. Another Gallup poll out today finds that support for an $800 billion recovery plan has increased from 52 percent to 59 percent:
It’s also ironic that Rove cites Rasmussen today, considering that hours after his column was published, Rasmussen released a new poll showing that Obama has “boosted support for the economic recovery plan working its way through Congress.” According to Rasmussen, 44 percent of U.S. voters now support the plan, compared to 37 percent last week.
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February 12th, 2009 at 6:29 pmWhy on earth is Rover still in the newspaper? I would love to have one of our trolls educate us as to what exactly did Rove do correctly while he drank at the public trough. Please name one thing Rove did which created a positive result on America.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:30 pmWOW you mean that rove and the rethugz arent tellin tha truth??? well blow me down.. naw rove just blow me!!!!
February 12th, 2009 at 6:30 pmTo be Republican is to be unfamiliar with reality.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:30 pmI’m sure the bill is losing support among hardcore Repubs, but hardcore Repubs are losing support among the vast majority of Americans, so…
WTF cares? And it’s FuxNews after all. They never get bogged down with pesky facts.
PEACE
February 12th, 2009 at 6:32 pmThey have to say it’s going badly..If Obama and his administration start to have success they’re doomed..
February 12th, 2009 at 6:32 pmBy the way the talking head pictured works for the Washington Times…owned by Mr. Moon…you know, the cult leader from Korea.?…
why does newcorp want us to fail as a country?
February 12th, 2009 at 6:33 pmWhat’s new! The sooner the conservatives exterminate themselves, the sooner America will be restored.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:36 pmStratRat Says:
Why on earth is Rover still in the newspaper?
Because that newspaper is now owned by Rupert Murdoch.
Funny thing, it turns out that Murdoch was misquoted. What he actually said was, “We are not an organization that tolerates fat.” (as opposed to ‘facts’). Well, if they don’t tolerate fat, then why is Rove on the payroll?
February 12th, 2009 at 6:37 pmTo be Republican is to be unfamiliar with reality.
Hmm, I take slight exception to this Zooey…
Since they manage to come down on realities opposite side every single time and the chances of that happening every time are astronomical I would argue that they are not unfamiliar with reality… they just to stand in ‘principled opposition’ to reality…
February 12th, 2009 at 6:37 pmrealities should be reality’s in #9…
February 12th, 2009 at 6:37 pmConservatives Deny Reality
TP, your headline could have stopped there.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:38 pmZooey Says:
To be Republican is to be unfamiliar with reality.
I believe it would be more accurate to say that the term reality is undefined in the Republican system of logic.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:42 pmThe more they spin it, the higher the ratings for it goes. America has patently rejected all Republicans and the GOP ideology.
The only ones who haven’t gotten the message are the brain-dead hard-core, reichwing locksteppers. Of course, they’re suffering from serious delusions and out of touch with reality.
Just wait until 2010 – soon we will have so few Republicans in office that the party will be extinct.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:42 pmLater, during an interview with Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, Fox’s Trace Gallagher said the American people “support what the president is doing,” but “they don’t support this plan.”
Just as war supporters spouted that you can’t support troops, without supporting the war, the same holds true here.
And if not for stale propaganda, republicans would have nothing to say. It’s just like trolls who tout long-debunked studies, and specious talking points. If not for day-old intellectual bread, they would starve.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:43 pm44 states are now solidly democrat – and definitely moving this week.
Fact: The stimulus plan’s popularity went up 12 points this week!
Get a grip Repturds. Your heyday is over.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:43 pmNo, no, no—they’re creating reality.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:43 pmbarfly: The GOP talking points have become so transparently propagandist that they’ve become the new laughingstock of this country.
Once the “word” comes out from Rush Limpballs and his cadre of criminals, every sycophant media whore clicks their heels and lines up to screw the american public.
It’s actually quite funny to observe.
Let’s see if we can predict their next “talking point” – it doesn’t take much more than a room temperature IQ to do so these days.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:46 pmYes, they’re so deluded and delusional at this point that they’re functioning in an altered universe. I fully expect some of the reichwing programming to crap the bed soon. No one, other than their fellow haters, listens or watches their shows.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:47 pmFact: The stimulus plan’s popularity went up 12 points this week!
The same week the stock market tanked, yet again.
There’s the evidence that Wall Street is disconnected from the concerns of Main Street.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:48 pmwiley Says:
No, no, no—they’re creating reality.
Shoe’s now on the other electoral foot. They are being forced to bear sidelines witness as Obama creates the new reality, which resembles their worst nightmare: a socialized society and culture.
Once the culture becomes used to it, game over, conservatives.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:53 pmThis is a very sophisticated analysis. belac has a good point; if Republicans were entirely unfamiliar with reality, one could reasonably expect them to land on a reality-based — sorry, reality-aligned position once in a while, perhaps even as often as 50% of the time.
But they don’t. This leads one to conclude that they do recognize reality as an entity, they’re just not sure what it is and they know that they don’t like it.
February 12th, 2009 at 6:58 pmrimhotep Says:
Let’s see if we can predict their next “talking point” – it doesn’t take much more than a room temperature IQ to do so these days.
Well, one of Newsmax’s sponsors is pushing the idea that this stimulus bill will give jobs to illegal aliens. Don’t be surprised if you start hearing that one (if they haven’t already thrown it out to see if it sticks to the wall yet.)
February 12th, 2009 at 6:59 pmAs detached as the Amertaliban are from reality, I sincerely hope thats how detached from power they become in 2010.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:00 pm- – “The GOP has declared war on Obama. This much is now clear. Their clear and open intent is to do all they can, however they can, to sabotage the new administration (and the economy to boot). They want failure. Even now. Even after the last eight years. Even in a recession as steeply dangerous as this one. There are legitimate debates to be had; and then there is the cynicism and surrealism of total political war. We now should have even less doubt about what kind of people they are. And the mountain of partisan vitriol Obama will have to climb every day of the next four or eight years.”
H/T Andrew Sullivan.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:03 pmThey hasten their demise. No one believes their drivel any longer. The polls prove it.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:04 pmThis isn’t the first time GOPers have lied to block the stimulus package. We saw this just a few weeks ago when the first bill was moving through Congress.
But Rachel Maddox nipped their lies in the bud: http://www.tv1.com/playlists/225
February 12th, 2009 at 7:05 pmThe Republican obstruction against Obama has incited americans against them like nothing else could ever have done.
I can’t wait to see what their poll numbers will be (the GOP)….probably down near Cheney’s.
Americans have finally awakened and realize that the GOP’s war on Obama is fightin’ words….the GOP self-proclaimed Taliban is definitely the new “enemy within” of the american people.
Way to go to self destruct, GOP! They’re imploding.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:10 pmRoket: Hastening their demise is an understatement. In one week’s time, they’ve descended to the pit of irrelevancy. People are now spitting on them. And, what’s even more priceless, they’ve done it to themselves.
This gives the analogy “HOIST ON THEIR OWN PITARD” new meaning. The GOP has now become the poster group for self-implosion.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:12 pmYou could have just left the headline as -
“Conservatives Deny Reality”
Generally applies to everything they say and do.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:15 pmWell, go ahead! Just pick my comment to death!
**runs sobbing from the room**
February 12th, 2009 at 7:29 pmNot only do R’s deny reality, but the few I (unfortunately) know are racist as well.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:36 pmOh, Zooey! No… I just thought it bared mentioning that they can’t be completely unfamiliar with reality if they take up a diametrically opposed position every time… that’s all.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:37 pmStratRat Says: #2
Because he was Bush’s brain. You know, the brain that stopped 47 potential terrorist attacks. Or was it 365? 4367 maybe? 21,498? Hmmmm… my bet is that it was and still is actually… ZERO!!!
February 12th, 2009 at 7:40 pmGotcha, belac. ;)
February 12th, 2009 at 7:44 pmYeah, Zoo, we weren’t picking your comment apart…
(turns to belac)
Now see what you’ve done?
February 12th, 2009 at 7:44 pmI’ll go to my room…
February 12th, 2009 at 7:48 pmGeez, you guys still fall for my shit, don’t ya? :-D
February 12th, 2009 at 7:49 pmLet’s remind the MSM what we really think. This onslaught of republican whining and distortion is not helping.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:55 pmAMERICA’S SABOTEURS
Republicans are practicing SUBVERSIVE forms of demagoguery and guerrilla obstructionism that are intended to destabilize our economy for purposes of political exploitation.
Republicans AREN’T making a sincere effort to stop the bleeding their incompetent leadership and failed policies created. Instead, they’re using conflicting economic theories as a smokescreen to conceal their real agenda, which is to undermine President Obama and cause him and America to fail.
Republicans are laughably professing that their disgraceful political whoring had nothing to do with the banking, real estate, stock market and employment catastrophes that resulted.
Republicans are trying to hamstring Obama to prevent him from undoing the incompetent negligence of George W. Bush.
Republicans are offering up subjective controversial arguments they know no one can agree on in order to disrupt and deny progressive change. They’d rather create political gridlock than endure the political consequences of effective Democratic governance. That’s how they gained power and that’s how they’re trying to retain it.
Republicans are not the LOYAL OPPOSITION. They are the ENEMY WITHIN whose political priorities have eroded their moral and ethical standards to the point that treachery and betrayal are their preferred methods of operation.
It’s one thing to vigorously advocate their conservative beliefs; it’s another thing entirely for them to willfully sabotage America’s government because a successful Democratic president would not be vulnerable to the fears and hatreds that have produced and sustained the radical Republican corporatism and extremism that have poisoned and divided America.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:58 pmIf medals were awarded for reality denial, Hucklebuck Graham would be in contention for Olympic gold. Asked what isses he thought Obama and he might work on in bipartisan fashion, the one he mentioned, was Social Security!
Like anyone would ever believe republicans on the issue.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:00 pm90% of Americans would rather have a prion infection than listen to Karl Rove’s opinion on any topic.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:14 pmTHAT’s the new head of the democratic party? oh no…
better get a spine, kaine… and get LOUDER!
February 12th, 2009 at 8:32 pmThe libs are in denial again. Nobody wants this porkulus.
You can post… why can’t you read, LTdan???
February 12th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
LTdan Says:
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As Belac just pointed out, the facts simply don’t support your hypothesis.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:36 pmThis has been a really good week for trolls bursting on the scene, calling all of us idiots, and then walking into walls thinking they were open doors.
It never gets old.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:44 pmLTdan Says:
I still havent been proved wrong. This stimulus will collapse the economy for good. I’ll be the first to admit Bush’s was failed from the start, what makes you libs think this one will work?
Don’t you want to defend your assertion that “nobody wants it”? I mean, before you go off on another glue-fueled rant, could you either defend it or retract it?
February 12th, 2009 at 8:49 pmGood call, gum. I almost took the bait and challenged the Looie’s new absurdity but you’re right — let’s make him defend his first ridiculous statement before we move on.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:53 pmgummitch Says:
I mean, before you go off on another glue-fueled rant, could you either defend it or retract it?
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So you think it’s glue, and not Sterno? Interesting… and worth looking into.
What about cleaning solutions, like Carbona?
February 12th, 2009 at 9:08 pmWhatever it is, it appears to have rendered him inert.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:12 pmOh for gosh sake! Here we have one of our most dedicated trolls, lost in a downward spiral of substance abuse and you guys are arguing about which household product he’s sniffing. Does it matter whether it’s glue, or Sterno, or spray paint??? He needs help!
February 12th, 2009 at 9:13 pmHey DannyBoy, better go breathe some fresh air.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:14 pmNo ralph, it doesn’t matter. Unless we are starting a pool. Then I want Scotchgard.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:15 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Oh for gosh sake! Here we have one of our most dedicated trolls, lost in a downward spiral of substance abuse and you guys are arguing about which household product he’s sniffing. Does it matter whether it’s glue, or Sterno, or spray paint??? He needs help!
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From here, it also looks like he’s ready a new can of “Pam”… and some fresh alveoli. BTW, we’re not “arguing”… we’re conducting a dignified scientific inquiry.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:21 pmWho is starting the pool?
February 12th, 2009 at 9:21 pmShayne Says:
Unless we are starting a pool. Then I want Scotchgard.
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Ooooo… Scotchgard… good choice.
Shall I put you down for a fiver on Scotchgard, Shayne?
And ralphie… you going w/ spray paint?
Anybody want acetone?
How about some truly nasty flouride compound of some sort?
February 12th, 2009 at 9:23 pmShayne Says:
Who is starting the pool?
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Heh…
Huh? Okay… which one of you tried to pass this wooden nickel?
February 12th, 2009 at 9:24 pmThere’s a simple answer to why the bill has ANY support at all, but you folks don’t want to hear it or wouldn’t understand in any event.
Here’s the bottom line.
I submit that:
a)the vast majority of Americans have NO IDEA what’s really in the bill to begin with. Even their representatives in Congress didn’t even bother to read it before the voted. Others wanted to, but were told it had to be passed or else!
b)the vast majority of Americans have no earthly idea how spending of this magnitude will impact future rates of inflation and how it will crowd out private investment.
c)the vast majority of Americans don’t really understand the true purpose of this bill – and it has much less to do with “saving jobs” than they realize.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:25 pmTim Vaculik Says:
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A whole lot of nothing. Just silly insults and unsupportable conjecture.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:28 pmYou jokers talking about us REpublicans is ALWAYS good for a laugh!
Remember, being a liberal means standing on your head and telling the rest of the world it’s upside down.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:30 pmLiberalism is a mental disorder. Every day that I come here and read the comments only reminds me how true it is.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:32 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Wow… Timmeh… you’re quite the cut up.
Thas some industrial strength smacky smack yer layin’ down.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:33 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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Mental disorder?
Ya mean, like convincing yourself the Earth is really only 6,000 years old and that dinosuars were on the Ark w/ Noah?
Or the kind of cognitive disconnect that could lead one to aver that “not every every violation of the law is a crime.”
Give us a little more info Timmeh… your concept is a little vague… and on the “sound bitish” side…
February 12th, 2009 at 9:37 pmThe next time I need some do-gooder, liberal socialist to tell me how to live, I’ll be sure to ask.
What is clearly UN-American is their tendency to set themselves up in government and DICTATE to free men and women how they ought to conduct their lives.
These apparatchiks would be all cozy and filled with warm thoughts whether they were in Caracas, Havana, Beijing, Moscow OR Washington D.C.. It makes NO DIFFERENCE to Marxists where they ply their social POISON.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:38 pmI’m just getting warmed up, stupid(ity)
February 12th, 2009 at 9:38 pmAre we telling Vacuous how to live? Who invited him here anyway…?
February 12th, 2009 at 9:39 pmTim Vaculik Says:
What is clearly UN-American is their tendency to set themselves up in government and DICTATE to free men and women how they ought to conduct their lives.
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Ya mean, like denying some people the basic civil right of marriage based on gender preference alone? That sort of dictating?
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These apparatchiks would be all cozy and filled with warm thoughts whether they were in Caracas, Havana, Beijing, Moscow OR Washington D.C.. It makes NO DIFFERENCE to Marxists where they ply their social POISON.
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Huh? What do you have against the Marx Brothers?
Oh… excuse me… you were making a POLITICAL statement… well, then, allow me to retort… WTF are you talking about? This doesn’t make the least bit of sense.
While you’re still spewing… define “social POISON”, so’s we all know what you’re muttering about. Clearly, and exactly.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:44 pmthis is bcuz the rove doesn’t follow polls, remember? And he probably just saw an opinion piece somewhere on washington times or worlddotnet spouting some crazy sh*t and he took it for fact.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:44 pmZooey Says:
Are we telling Vacuous how to live? Who invited him here anyway…?
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He came in freely, of his own accord.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:45 pmThe ugly truth is that people like our newly minted President are socialists at their core. They aren’t cut from the same cloth as the true American.
The true Americans in this once great nation of ours had better WAKE UP before it’s too late. Our very freedoms are at stake. Ideas and notions about the way to run this country that once would have been greeted with outrage and met with resolute opposition now seem commonplace and barely cause people to stop what their doing in their day-to-day lives.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:45 pmJesus, Tim. Stop pissing your pants.
FYI, it’s not people like YOU who condone the destruction of the Constitutional foundation of this country who are the “real” Americans.
Go f uck yourself.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:47 pmTim Vaculik Says:
The ugly truth is that people like our newly minted President are socialists at their core. They aren’t cut from the same cloth as the true American.
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What a silly statement. Rhetorically speaking ,what is this… hyperbole? It certainly isn’t a meaningful position of anything.
The True American… now THAT sure smacks of the totalitarian mindset.
Who was complaining about dictators around here?
February 12th, 2009 at 9:48 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
Zooey Says:
Are we telling Vacuous how to live? Who invited him here anyway…?
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He came in freely, of his own accord.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I guess that means he’s just naturally a big fat whiny-assed titty baby.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:48 pmTim Vaculik Says:
The true Americans in this once great nation of ours had better WAKE UP before it’s too late. Our very freedoms are at stake. Ideas and notions about the way to run this country that once would have been greeted with outrage and met with resolute opposition now seem commonplace and barely cause people to stop what their doing in their day-to-day lives.
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Well, come to think of it… Botch did joke about being a dictator… and he did say the Constitution is just a g-damned piece of paper… and Alberto did claim there was no right to habeas corpus in said Constitution…
I’m sorry, Timmeh… did I just interrupt your hissy fit?
Hope you didn’t lose your concentration.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:50 pmZooey Says:
I guess that means he’s just naturally a big fat whiny-assed titty baby.
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Hmmm… you do have a valid point there.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:51 pmHere’s one form of social poison that’s KILLING our country – cultural Marxism.
You should read Saul Alinsky’s book! Your hero Obama has not only read it, but adopted the philosophy, tactics and methodology of an avowed COMMUNIST.
You see, the mechanics of cultural Marxism are thus: You foment discontent among groups and get them into a general state of unhappiness. You then assign the group a list of grievances which they willingly adopt. You tell them that they are OPPRESSED. These grievances then take on the mantle of civil rights and the group proceeds to demand that THEIR grievance be addressed! They are oppressed after all!
Starting to sound familiar?
February 12th, 2009 at 9:53 pmOh Timmy is scared. Poor baby.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:53 pmOh, in that case Bush and Cheney are the Marxists. They’re the folks who fomented all this unhappiness the last 8 years.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:56 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Here’s one form of social poison that’s KILLING our country – cultural Marxism.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Dude, seriously, you don’t have the first idea what Marxism is.
I’d tell you to educate yourself, but that would be assuming it was possible.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:57 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Starting to sound familiar?
February 12th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Yes. Your ignorance is well known here.
February 12th, 2009 at 9:58 pmZooey,
You’ve more than proven your own lack of knowledge on many occaisions so pardon me while I chuckle…
February 12th, 2009 at 9:59 pmShayne,
You obviously haven’t read the book.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:00 pmTim Vaculik Says:
You see, the mechanics of cultural Marxism are thus: You foment discontent among groups and get them into a general state of unhappiness. You then assign the group a list of grievances which they willingly adopt.
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Hmm… sounds suspiciously like you’re describing Jim David Adkisson
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29104696/
“… he planned the attack on the church because he hated the church’s liberal politics and Democrats, whom he believed “WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS WOES.”
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You tell them that they are OPPRESSED. These grievances then take on the mantle of civil rights and the group proceeds to demand that THEIR grievance be addressed! They are oppressed after all!
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-kim/right-wing-tn-church-shoo_b_115789.html
In a guitar case, he carried a shotgun and 76 rounds. Adkisson killed two church members, Greg McKendry (60) and Linda Kraeger (61)
Inside [Adkisson’s] house, officers found “Liberalism is a Mental Health Disorder” by radio talk show host Michael Savage, “Let Freedom Ring” by talk show host Sean Hannity, and “The O’Reilly Factor,” by television talk show host Bill O’Reilly.
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Wow… Timmeh… pretty prescient on your part. A Real American like Adkisson heard that call to arms and came to the aid of his country. He understood that “Liberalism is a mental disorder”, just like you do.
And he knew exactly who to blame and take his rage out on… in this case a church full of unarmed CHRISTIANS, including the 61 yr old woman he shot to death.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:06 pmYou folks should listen to people who have lived in other countries who, having made it to the United States are now HORRIFIED to hear a lot of the same rhetoric from the likes of “progressives” and assorted Democrats that reminds them of the socialist paradises they escaped from!
This reminds me of a comment I heard one day from a man who had lived in Cuba. He was absolutely floored when he saw young people in this country wearing CHE GUEVARRA t-shirts!
Che Posters in Obama campaign offices… Good God, what have we done?
February 12th, 2009 at 10:08 pm#
Tim Vaculik Says:
You see, the mechanics of cultural Marxism are thus: You foment discontent among groups and get them into a general state of unhappiness. You then assign the group a list of grievances which they willingly adopt. You tell them that they are OPPRESSED. These grievances then take on the mantle of civil rights and the group proceeds to demand that THEIR grievance be addressed! They are oppressed after all!
Starting to sound familiar?
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February 12th, 2009 at 10:10 pmOh my gosh yes, it does sound familiar. It’s the modus operandi of conservative talk radio, the new opiate of the masses.
Ah, fugget. You folks are part of the problem, not the solution. I’m through wasting keystrokes
February 12th, 2009 at 10:10 pm“Conservatives deny reality”
February 12th, 2009 at 10:13 pmThat should be beautifully stitched into canvases and put over the door of every house in the U.S.
Che is a hero of mine. My daughter is named Tania. You probably don’t know what that means because you obviously know nothing about what you are talking about.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:14 pmTim why are you such a fasist? Why do you think calling us socialist insults us, it doesn’t. You are a nazi though.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:16 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Ah, fugget. You folks are part of the problem, not the solution.
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Gee, Timmeh… I was so awaiting your rebuttal of my Adkisson post.
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I’m through wasting keystrokes
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No doubt, Timmeh… you do need to save ALL your strokes for sumpin’ important, huh?
February 12th, 2009 at 10:19 pmTim Vaculik Says:
…I’m through wasting keystrokes
So you realize what a waste of time your visits here have been,
and will continue to be.
Face it, you’ll be back.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:20 pmGee… where’d Timmeh go?
This was just getting started.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:31 pmTracy__5 Says:
A recovery package, not this legislative piece of crap.
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Wow… that sure is articulate. So why don’t you define for us what “legislative piece of crap” means… so’s we all know what you’re referring to?
February 12th, 2009 at 10:33 pmt5 you’re an idiot
February 12th, 2009 at 10:38 pmTracy__5 Says:
You’re an idiot, there are no earmarks in the bill at all….
its easy to be an internet tough guy t5, long as you can stay hidden. I’m looking for you right now though….
February 12th, 2009 at 10:45 pmThis is indeed good news for the McCain campaign. There is still hope that he can pull it off.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:48 pmt5
February 12th, 2009 at 10:54 pmbeing an internet tough guy is easy, you can even pretend to be intelligent on the internet. You have never convinced anyone but you can pretend.
t5, you go ahead and rant…I’ll be back to have the last word later…..and again later….you will never get the last word…..bu bye…
February 12th, 2009 at 10:56 pmSo Tracy_random digit…spell it out! List the earmarks and identify which congresscritters inserted them to satisfy which groups? Details, we need details.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:57 pmYou probably lied. bartlebee would have cleaned the floor with your weak ass.
You are systematically scared to death, a real weak wienie, a pushover that girls tease and make fun of.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:59 pmI see we’ve returned to given Tracy all the attention s/he craves. People must really be bored.
February 12th, 2009 at 11:17 pmSo Tracy_5:
February 12th, 2009 at 11:44 pmDid the American Museum of Natural History help you out at all?
Goppers = treasonous cowards..
Party first… screw the country.
February 12th, 2009 at 11:54 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Ah, fugget. You folks are part of the problem, not the solution. I’m through wasting keystrokes
February 12th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Balls.
GET SOME.
February 13th, 2009 at 12:02 amLooks like troll_5 is back to tell us all about how the tanking economy is because of all those people getting themselves laid off who won’t take lower paying jobs. The ignorance of this troll is beyond belief. I am really hoping this is an act and that no one could be the level of sociopath it appears to be.
February 13th, 2009 at 12:04 amDamn, y’all scared Tim away. And now the true study in how Darwin was wrong is off line – gafaw.
February 13th, 2009 at 12:06 amHi Zooey. I seem to keep missing you….
February 13th, 2009 at 12:08 amThere are actually people who think that Obama is communist, and that communism was started by campaigns to make people think they were oppressed. Silly peasants.
February 13th, 2009 at 12:55 amActually,
I’ve lost my support of TARP.
Not to be confused with the Stimulus Bill/recovery.
But there may be something to this support loss.
February 13th, 2009 at 2:02 amBecause everytime they cut domestic spending from this bill and call it pork, someones needs (not wants) aren’t helped.
To call domestic spending on Americans pork but spend billions on Israel and Egypt each year and it is foeign policy for our best intersests.
To pay Israel billions to blow up a city called Gaza while Americans are in need is beyond any republicans.
Where are the scales of balance.?
Lets weigh Wall Street aganst Main Street.
On the right scale we have Trillions to Wall Street.
On the left scale we have 780 billion.
My ECOMONIC eyes tell me the scale on the right with the trillions is by far heavier and more expensive and unaffordable than the scale on the left with the Main Street 780 billion.
Warning:
February 13th, 2009 at 2:09 amDo Not Try This At Home On Your Bath Room Scale. If irritation and headaches persist. We reccommend you either call your doctor or your Congressman.
Porkulus…so creative, LT Dan, did you come up with it yourself? *rolls eyes
February 13th, 2009 at 2:42 amThe democrats just passed one of the most regressive taxes ever!
February 13th, 2009 at 5:50 am25% of the people who smoke live below the poverty line.They will will pay for someone who makes up to 85,000 health insurance. I hope those people can quit. They may not be able to quit,may not just eat.Next they will want a fat tax,another one for not going to the gym,and one for not feeding your kids vegges.
So I suppose 75% live above it. Beside who in this era still smokes? I can not think of a single soul that I know personally that smokes cigarettes. See they learned it was a dumb thing to do and so they don’t do it
February 13th, 2009 at 7:12 amTracy__5 Says:
“For instance, a Gallup poll released Monday found that 67 percent of Americans approve of Obama’s push for an economic recovery package.”
A recovery package, not this legislative piece of crap. If the American people knew what was in it many or the elder folk would die of a heart attack on the spot.
Hilarious, from one of the war’s biggest boosters. As revelations of all the corruption and unamerican activities like torture have surfaced, Tracy was fine with it. But now that a democrat is president, suddenly Tracy remembers what “fiscal conservative” means. Trace, you squandered the right to complain, by supporting the Chimpy Administration. Sit down, shut up, and let responsible adults fix the mess your party has caused.
February 13th, 2009 at 7:45 amTimmy:
You see, the mechanics of cultural Marxism are thus: You foment discontent among groups and get them into a general state of unhappiness. [Or scare them with an existential threat so great, they fear for their very lives] You then assign the group a list of grievances which they willingly adopt. [such as Right to Life, and The Contract With America] You tell them that they are OPPRESSED. [By calling them "The Silent Majority," and "The Religious Right"] These grievances then take on the mantle of civil rights and the group proceeds to demand that THEIR grievance be addressed! They are oppressed after all!
Starting to sound familiar?
Very familiar. But aren’t you saying republicans resemble communists?
February 13th, 2009 at 8:10 amI do believe our little repug buddies are confusing various interpretations of Marx and Engel’s original theoretical analysis of capitalism. The whole bit about actively fomenting anything came from people like Lenin and his ilk.
February 13th, 2009 at 8:38 amI think in a few years we’ll be calling this the “Titanic Strategy”. Meaning, if it sinks hold on to it. This is really all that Rove and Grover have left in their bag of tricks and incredibly, GOPers and proving what good followers they are by swearing allegiance to this insanity because it dribbles out of the mouth of the Genius himself Mr. Rove.
Well I love my country and I hope the Dems peal off a few more GOPers in order to get some bills passed, but by and large I hope the GOP keeps to the Titanic Strategy for many, many, more years.
February 13th, 2009 at 10:07 amFacts have a liberal Bias!
February 13th, 2009 at 12:45 pmLTdan Says:
You ignorant troll. Is that all you can do? Just come in here and repeat Rush Limbaugh garbage. The man is an ignoramus. Clearly not as stupid and ignorant as YOU but it is beyond pathetic that you not only rely on him to do your thinking for you but actually repeat his idiocy like the ignorant hivemind moron you are. You are pathetic. You should be comitting supuku from sheer embarassment right now for humiliating yourself with this kind of mindless stupidity but you are actually too stupid to BE embarassed. Well the rest of the human race is embarassed for you
February 13th, 2009 at 1:12 pmLTdan Says:
I still havent been proved wrong.
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Yes you have moron. I get that you are stupid beyond human comprehension but when you say NO ONE WANTS something then another poster shows a poll that puts support for it at more than two people out of three that proves you wrong. My GOD you are ignorant beyond belief. You are incapable of understanding ANYTHING repeating Rush is all you can do you pathetic weasel
February 13th, 2009 at 1:15 pmTim Vaculik Says:
I submit that you are stupid Timmeh. You prove that every time you post. You never know what you are talking about and are a simpleminded moron. Nice of you to drop by from time to time to show just how stupid you are. See I keep thinking that the new Limborg propaganda is so beyond the pale that NO ONE could be stupid enough to believe it then you pop up and show that YES there are INCREDIBLY stupid people who will believe whatever they are TOLD to believe by their screechmonkey masters. They might even vote. Gotta keep that in mind. You are ignorant Timmeh. You are pathetic. You are however amusing in a free clown show kind of way
February 13th, 2009 at 1:17 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Zooey,
You’ve more than proven your own lack of knowledge on many occaisions so pardon me while I chuckle…
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Oh please Zooey is one bright lady. YOU on the other hand are unbelievably stupid. There is some propaganda so outrageously stupid even RUSH wont say it. HE would like to, or better yet to get other classicly stupid morons to spread it for him. For instance Rush tells his audience that Clinton taking the resignations of all the attorneys at the beggining of his term is like Bush firing HIS OWN nominees in the middle of his second term. Now RUSH isnt stupid enough to pretend Bush didnt do the same thing at the begining of his term because he doesnt want to look like a fool. He just leaves the implication. Timmeah brainwashed hivemind moron that he is PICKS UP THE IMPLICATION and IS stupid enoug to repeat it. He is not just brainwashed to repeat what he is told to believe no matter how ignorant he is programmed to pick up the implied idiocy and repeat IT. You are hoplessly stupid Timmeh. Beyond the pale stupid. The ONLY thing you do here is embarass yourself.
February 13th, 2009 at 1:26 pmTracy__5 Says:
Trace you are a punk, you are stupid, and you are worthless.
February 13th, 2009 at 1:28 pmAs if the Dems didn’t have a huge hand in causing the housing market problem? They were partly responsible. And no I am not going to let idiots like Pelosi and Reid push this country into the abyss with a special interest spending bill deceitfully cloaked as a economic stimulus package. BTW you boy Obama seems to be in way over his head considering he can’t seem to figure out what a vetting process is or how to run it.
Stale talking points, and bluster. I remember you since you were in your first incarnation, and you’ve never said boo about either, even after the proof surfaced.
February 13th, 2009 at 4:41 pmThe Limbo Hole
With only three Republicans in Congress voting for Obama’s Stimulus Package, and nearly 70% of Americans supporting the plan, Republicans continue to dig themselves deeper and deeper into their Limbaugh Hole. What a perfect name for the leader of the Republican Party — Limbaugh. Remember the old Limbo Dance — “How Low Can You Go?” How Low can the Republican Party Go? Limbaugh continues to lead the GOP further and further into a perpetual state of Limbo.
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