Historians rank Bush in the top 10 of America’s worst presidents.
By on Feb 15th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Historians rank Bush in the top 10 of America’s worst presidents.
Today, C-SPAN released its second Historians Survey of Presidential Leadership, in which “65 presidential historians ranked the 42 former occupants of the White House on ten attributes of leadership.” Coming in first was Abraham Lincoln, followed by George Washington, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt, and Harry Truman. Finishing last was James Buchanan. George W. Bush came in 36th, just beating out Millard Fillmore, who ranked 37th. A look at how historians judged Bush on measures such as his “economic management” and “moral authority”:
Looks like Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) was wrong when, in 2007, he predicted that Bush’s “ratings among the historians will be greater than his ratings in the polls today.”
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Surprise!! Surprise!! (in my best Gomer Pyle voice)
¶ AIO
February 15th, 2009 at 3:33 pmI’m a little surprised that they could find six presidents worse than Bush. He’s got to be able to console himself with the thought that at least he’s ranked higher than William Henry Harrison.
I’ll tell ya, if Bush’s tenure had been limited to 32 days, we’d all have been better off.
As long as Cheney wasn’t his replacement, that is.
February 15th, 2009 at 3:33 pmLooks like Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) was wrong when, in 2007, he predicted that Bush’s “ratings among the historians will be greater than his ratings in the polls today.”
Well, that ain’t the only think Lieberman was wrong about. He also thought he could win re-election without any help from the Republicans. Instead, he wouldn’t be in the Senate today without them.
February 15th, 2009 at 3:40 pmSmeh. These things are such parlor games it is ridiculous to put any weight behind them. As if it is seriously possible to judge a Presidents impact a month after he leaves office. Had this poll been conducted in February of 1952, there is no way Truman would have cracked the top ten, let alone the top 5.
BTW, before you get all excited about how this vindicates conventional wisdom here at TP, realize that this poll also says that Reagan was a better President than Clinton and JFK – with a whole 3 years in office that were very mixed at best – was a better President than Thomas Jefferson!
Again, an amusing parlor game and nothing more.
February 15th, 2009 at 3:40 pmI’ll disagree a bit with Keltoi (though I think he’s right about it being a bit early for judgments–bad President or worst President ever?). This wasn’t about general impact, but leadership, and I think that Reagan probably was at his best (such as it was) in this area. I find it interesting not only that Bush comes out at number 36, but also that he’s so consistent–he didn’t break out of the bottom half even once, with ten opportunities.
February 15th, 2009 at 3:45 pmYou’re right, Keltoi, about this being a parlor game and not worth very much in the scheme of things.
I wouldn’t put too much faith in Dubya’s rep recovering like Truman’s did, however.
February 15th, 2009 at 3:45 pmno one called it a palor game when they wanted to disparage a fine man like Mr Carter…
February 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pmThese historians must have been Republican to be so kind. Rankings of #’s 2, 4, 6, 8 and 9 seem way to favorable, based on facts anyway! As Keltoi at Night Says: “As if it is seriously possible to judge a Presidents impact a month after he leaves office.”
February 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pmYou’re right Keltoi, and by the time we have 55 ex-presidents, bush could well be ranked at the very bottom. ya never know. Do you really think he’s going to rise? Truman was ranked low because he took some unpopular but principled stands (dismissing Macarthur during the Korean War, nationalizing the railroads during a strike) that alienated both the left and the right. What are bush’s principled stands?
February 15th, 2009 at 3:51 pmYou’re supposed to wait a hundred years.
February 15th, 2009 at 3:51 pmthere is no way Truman would have cracked the top ten, let alone the top 5.
Comment by Keltoi
It seems to me that it’s pretty much the Rethugs who extol Truman now: probably because he dropped two bombs, got us entangled in Korea, and was instrumental in the establishment of Israel.
I’d take Eisenhower any day.
Democrats will NEVER extol Bush-ever; even his own party (i.e. Mike Pence) won’t mention Bush’s name.
Good luck with that turd polishing, Kelti
¶ AIO
February 15th, 2009 at 3:52 pmHow on earth were there presidents worst that Chimpy? And why on earth did he not rank last on moral authority, economic management international relations and pursuing equal justice for all? Rush Limbaugh must have been one of the noted historians sitting on the panel – thats the only reason I can muster why Chimpy didn’t come in dead last in the rankings.
February 15th, 2009 at 3:55 pmI still don’t think Bush was the worst we’ve had…I mean, c’mon…James Buchanan.
‘nough said.
All told, I’d say Bush ranks 41th of 43. Still ahead of Buchanan and Grant.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:01 pmI guess the minions are counting on the clarity of our memory to decline with time, which usually happens, to give Bush a pardon in public opinion.
You see, back in 2001 I liked politics but didn’t really cover much of any political analysis, and I could sense just a few months into his term that George W. Bush was a very weak president. It took the tragedy of 9/11 to artificially raise his approval ratings and he exploited that as political capital and nothing more.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:05 pmBush is #1 in history to allow his V.P. to act as a President.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:07 pmEven if it is a parlor game, it is a fun parlor game.
For the record, at the present time, I would agree Bush belongs in the bottom 25%. His hope of rehabilitation lies in Iraq getting much better and Obama’s clean break from his security and economic policies making things much worse.
Here is the whole list with my commentary:
Historians Survey Results Category
Total Scores/Overall Ranking
President’s Name 2009 Final Score Overall Ranking
2009 2000
Abraham Lincoln 902 1 1
George Washington 854 2 3
Franklin D. Roosevelt 837 3 2
Theodore Roosevelt 781 4 4
Harry S. Truman 708 5 5
No serious argument.
John F. Kennedy 701 6 8
While wildly charismatic and moments of greatness, a 3 year President is tough to put this high IMO. Yes, he handled the Cuban Missile Crisis well, but that is offset by the Bay of Pigs, etc. His Vietnam endgame will remain forever a mystery. His Civil Rights record is good, but not unblemished. We will never know whether he belongs here or not.
Thomas Jefferson 698 7 7
Please. Louisana purchase? Dec of Ind? French Embassy? Barbary Pirates? Overall genius and Renaissance Man? Put him with T. Rex at least.
Dwight D. Eisenhower 689 8 9
Woodrow Wilson 683 9 6
Ronald Reagan 671 10 11
Smeh. Okay.
Lyndon B. Johnson 641 11 10
WHAT???? The 11th greatest President in history is so disgraced he doesn’t even seek his party’s own nomination for re-election? This choice baffles me.
James K. Polk 606 12 12
Excellent choice for a President little heralded but who secured more territorial gain for the Repbulic than any other. Which is likely a black mark for pacifists, but it wasn’t just the Mexican War, it was also negotiating a Treaty with Britain that secured the Pacific Northwest. I have lived my entire life as an American on land Polk brought into the Union.
Andrew Jackson 606 13 13
Good, but I’d put him higher, even if he did found the Democratic Party :)
James Monroe 605 14 14
Bill Clinton 605 15 21
William McKinley 599 16 15
John Adams 545 17 16
George H. W. Bush 542 18 20
All good middle of the pack choices, though widely seperated in the country they governed and the times in which they lived.
John Quincy Adams 542 19 19
James Madison 535 20 18
Grover Cleveland 523 21 17
Gerald R. Ford 509 22 23
Ulysses S. Grant 490 23 33
Surprised Grant ranks this high. Utter failure as President, only so-so as a general, he was just smart enough to realize he held all the cards over Lee and used them.
William Howard Taft 485 24 24
Jimmy Carter 474 25 22
Calvin Coolidge 469 26 27
Richard M. Nixon 450 27 25
No fan of Carter…this still seems like a harsh group to dwell in, but we are getting toward the bottom so some real losers must start to appear. Man, it must chap his hide to be 2 ranks above Nixon! Everyone here still liking this poll?
James A. Garfield 445 28 29
Zachary Taylor 443 29 28
Benjamin Harrison 442 30 31
Martin Van Buren 435 31 30
Chester A. Arthur 420 32 32
Rutherford B. Hayes 409 33 26
Ah, the forgettable, Bearded Presidents of the late 19th century. Taylor and Van Buren have got to be pissed!
Herbert Hoover 389 34 34
Such a gifted public servant right up until his Presidency…I think he should get an award for unluckiest President.
John Tyler 372 35 36
George W. Bush 362 36 NA
Millard Fillmore 351 37 35
Warren G. Harding 327 38 38
William Henry Harrison 324 39 37
Franklin D. Pierce 287 40 39
Andrew Johnson 258 41 40
James Buchanan
Interesting that Lincoln, at number one, is bookended by the worst and second worst in this poll.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:10 pmKeltoi, the only rise that Bush may see is tying with Herbert Hoover. But I have a hard time distinguishing between the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis murdered, displaced, maimed and doomed to famine and the approx. 30%+ of Americans who suffered throughout the great depression. But if your indicators are lower right out the gate than Herbert Hoover, that isn’t a good sign.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:11 pmi was hoping for bm, but
i guess we can settle for keltoi.
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February 15th, 2009 at 4:11 pmKeltoi at Night Says:
Even if it is a parlor game, it is a fun parlor game.
For the record, at the present time, I would agree Bush belongs in the bottom 25%. His hope of rehabilitation lies in Iraq getting much better and Obama’s clean break from his security and economic policies making things much worse.
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hoping for failure.
there’s a policy
position for ya!
:)
keltoi,
the villager troll.
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February 15th, 2009 at 4:15 pmbenmaller Says:
How has Washington passed FDR since 2000? What has he done lately? And Truman # 5, I think he left office with worse approval ratings than any of them.
I did like Truman though, he had the guts to nuke the Japs and put an end to that war.
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i love the way bm translates
keltoi, don’t you?
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February 15th, 2009 at 4:15 pmI was watching C-SPAN this morning when they discussed this with the historians. I could not believe the apologists who called on the republican line to say that W would rise in a few years because of the peace and tranquility and freedom and democracy he so diligently spread in Iraq. Where do these morons get this idea?
February 15th, 2009 at 4:18 pmKeltoi: For the record, at the present time, I would agree Bush belongs in the bottom 25%. His hope of rehabilitation lies in Iraq getting much better and Obama’s clean break from his security and economic policies making things much worse.
I cannot agree that any improvement in Iraq from here on, especially as troop withdrawals get underway, can be attributed to Bush. Rehabilitation in this case is nowhere but up at this point because our invasion of Iraq caused massive bleeding throughout the middle east. Any destabilization as we do leave will be a sad irony — the intelligence agencies clearly laid out in years prior leading up to our invasion that doing so would destabilize the middle east.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:21 pmbenmaller Says:
I did like Truman though, he had the guts to nuke the Japs and put an end to that war.
Soothing bigotry to be spun as national security by our resident troll.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:24 pmMcWars Says:
Keltoi: For the record, at the present time, I would agree Bush belongs in the bottom 25%. His hope of rehabilitation lies in Iraq getting much better and Obama’s clean break from his security and economic policies making things much worse.
I cannot agree that any improvement in Iraq from here on, especially as troop withdrawals get underway, can be attributed to Bush. Rehabilitation in this case is nowhere but up at this point because our invasion of Iraq caused massive bleeding throughout the middle east. Any destabilization as we do leave will be a sad irony — the intelligence agencies clearly laid out in years prior leading up to our invasion that doing so would destabilize the middle east.
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if bm and keltoi would both
be wiling to send just five dollars
each they could get this bush
library thing over the top and
w. could overtake tyler and hoover
in the ratings. what do you say boys,
willing to chip in?
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February 15th, 2009 at 4:34 pmJust who was worse than Bush on foreign policy? If Georgie is 41/42, who was #42? The guy that died shortly after his inauguration?
And Joe Cantwell, I’m coming to find you! You conjur up bm better than a high colonic!
The best Bush could hope for is that he dies soon so that his “supporters” aren’t too old to line the streets for the procession. I suspect, however, we’ll be treated to more of the “drunk in Beijing” moments.
PEACE
February 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pmLTdan Says:
The worst president ever is still a democrat, Jimmy Carter. Obama might replace him though.
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lt has taken a break from
cruising his friend’s web sites
to join us.
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February 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pmfor all the damage he has done to our constitution, taking America from the world leader to the third of fourth most Feared nation in the world, and for the breakdown of the morality(ie. torture) of this country in eight long years.
On the accompanying chart from C-Span, GWB rates in the bottom half in ALL catagories. I have to question his highest ranking: 24 out of 43 in the area of “pursued equal justice for all”. This must obviously not include political prosecutions, and keeping the DOJ at it’s proper relationship to the White House.
GWB = WAE – Worst American Ever
February 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pmkeltoi:
When the rankings get to the point of not being a game (assuming they ever will) Bush will drop further down the list.
benmaller:
Dropping 2 nuclear weapons on civilian populations takes something, but I wouldn’t call it “guts”.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:45 pmLTdan Says:
The worst president ever is still a democrat, Jimmy Carter. Obama might replace him though.
Typical jackass comment. If we’d listened to Jimmy Carter then we wouldn’t be dependent on foreign oil now. He got it right, and “conservatives” got it wrong (again).
February 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pmbenmaller Says:
Oh please spare me the bigotry b.s. Even the Great FDR called the japs Japs as he ordered them rounded up, herded into concentration camps and stripped of their property and rights as citizens.
That makes it not bigoted?
February 15th, 2009 at 4:49 pmbenmaller Says:
McWars Says:
Soothing bigotry to be spun as national security by our resident troll.
Oh please spare me the bigotry b.s. Even the Great FDR called the japs Japs as he ordered them rounded up, herded into concentration camps and stripped of their property and rights as citizens.
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February 15th, 2009 at 4:50 pmgummitch Says:
benmaller Says:
Oh please spare me the bigotry b.s. Even the Great FDR called the japs Japs as he ordered them rounded up, herded into concentration camps and stripped of their property and rights as citizens.
That makes it not bigoted?
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they live in a parallel universe, gum.
and then die in their fifties of heart attacks.
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February 15th, 2009 at 4:51 pmbenmaller Says:
February 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pmOh please spare me the bigotry b.s. Even the Great FDR called the japs Japs as he ordered them rounded up, herded into concentration camps and stripped of their property and rights as citizens.
This is FDR’s shame, not honor and the fact that you hide behind FDR’s racism to shield yours is your shame. Hint: Libs can have a hero and still acknowledge his flaws… try it sometime.
LTdan Says:
The worst president ever is still a democrat, Jimmy Carter. Obama might replace him though.
Eh, Carter’s rankings are mild, if you read the survey. But that won’t stop you from being the ultra-illiterate troll you pride yourself to be.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pmBobwurst Says:
This is FDR’s shame, not honor and the fact that you hide behind FDR’s racism to shield yours is your shame. Hint: Libs can have a hero and still acknowledge his flaws… try it sometime.
B I N G O!
February 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pmbenmaller Says:
Marcus Aurelius Says:
Dropping 2 nuclear weapons on civilian populations takes something, but I wouldn’t call it “guts”.
Ask the guys sitting on the ships in the Pacific waiting for the order to invade the Jap Homeland how they feel about it.
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wtf, what guy?
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news flash, bm,
we’re in the 21st century.
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where are you?
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keltoi, help your friend.
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February 15th, 2009 at 4:54 pmbenmaller Says:
Marcus Aurelius Says:
Dropping 2 nuclear weapons on civilian populations takes something, but I wouldn’t call it “guts”.
Ask the guys sitting on the ships in the Pacific waiting for the order to invade the Jap Homeland how they feel about it.
Now you just sound like Bin Laden.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pmLTdan,
Care to add any facts to your “cogent analysis” of Jimmy Carter’s presidency? And remember, “facts” are things that are true.
benmaller,
Just because Truman used the term does not make it right. And his roundup of American citizens of Japanese descent was wrong for many reasons, not least of which was that they were Americans, regardless of where their ancestors were born.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pmbenmaller Says:
gummitch Says:
That makes it not bigoted?
Well now that you point it out, I guess FDR was a bigot. He didn’t round up those white skinned Krauts did he?
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fixed.
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February 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pmbenmaller thinks we pride marching in lockstep as much as he does.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:56 pmi would assume when all the dust settles, genital warts will rank higher than 43.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:58 pmbenmaller Says:
gummitch Says:
That makes it not bigoted?
Well now that you point it out, I guess FDR was a bigot. He didn’t round up those white skinned Krauts did he.
Yeah, uh oh. FDR wasn’t perfect. Unlike Ronald Reagan, he couldn’t walk on water, either.
February 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pmbenmaller Says:
gummitch Says:
That makes it not bigoted?
Well now that you point it out, I guess FDR was a bigot. He didn’t round up those white skinned Krauts did he.
Wow, you finally got it right. FDR also African Americans poorly in WWII as well. It took Truman to desegregate the military, which is one reason why his approval ratings were so low when he left, and why they rose. What is bush counting on?
February 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pmYou think we’d rest easy if President Obama were to sneak in a signing statement, troll?
February 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pmReagan should be much lower on the list. To my knowledge, he’s the only commanchero president.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:00 pmbenmaller Says:
Hide behind it? Are you kidding? I applaud it. We could use some of that same, bold, decisive action today!
You think we should put all the “conservatives” in camps? Really? That seems a little drastic to me, but maybe you’re right.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:00 pmben mauled all day by the progressives still hanging in there?
February 15th, 2009 at 5:00 pmbenmaller Says:
Bobwurst Says:
hide behind FDR’s racism
Hide behind it? Are you kidding? I applaud it. We could use some of that same, bold, decisive action today!
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there you go, bm.
put a little corn in
your argument.
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for texture.
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February 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pmbenmaller Says:
Hide behind it? Are you kidding? I applaud it. We could use some of that same, bold, decisive action today!
Oh boy, we’ve got ourselves a Hal Turner minion.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pmbenmaller says at #19
Dropping the Bombs was in all probability unnecessary at the point. Japan was on its knees ecomonically with a starving population, completly cutoff from its ability to import materials for warmaking, and little if any military potential left except for the Kamikazes. There was only one reason to drop the Bomb.
Russia.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pmbenmaller Says:
“Hide behind it? Are you kidding? I applaud it. We could use some of that same, bold, decisive action today!”
tokyo rose malkin…is that you?
February 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pmOh boy, we’ve got ourselves a Hal Turner minion.
If you say “gay” three times, Daryll will appear. Then they can tag-team.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pmyagyagyag
?krow ti diD
February 15th, 2009 at 5:08 pmbenmaller Says:
Bobwurst Says:
hide behind FDR’s racism
Hide behind it? Are you kidding? I applaud it. We could use some of that same, bold, decisive action today!
February 15th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
So, what you’re telling us, ben, is that you have no problem with being called a racist? Being racist isn’t being “bold”, it’s actually being quite cowardly. Why are you afraid of people who are different from you?
February 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pmExcuse me but this poll misses a major point. The ability of a modern day president to destroy the complex global financial and ecosystems and ruin international relations is so much greater than in Buchanan’s day. The population is huge, complexity is staggering. Also it is not just what a president does but what he does not do that makes him great – or a disaster. On the specific points e.g. Public Persuasion and Crisis Leadership does the president get points for persuading well but using lies to do so or leading out of a crisis into a dangerous direction?
February 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pmRandomC, ya gotta stop typing in the mirror.
Zooey’s right… the quality of the trolls has really dropped since they ended the McPoints program.
PEACE
February 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pmnotice how keltoi bails
out whenever bm, proud, ltdan, et al.
show up?
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he knows who’s in the charge
of the new republican party.
and he’s embarrassed.
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February 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pmgay gay — never mind, we’ll leave Darryl in his backyard to confirm that the piss in his birdbath belongs to Zooey.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pmGeorge W. Bu’ush. War Criminal.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pmHe’ll always be #1 in my book. (of miserable R a-holes)
February 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pmbenmaller Says:
Bozo The Neoclown Says:
tokyo rose malkin…is that you?
Malkin is a JAP? I thought she was an anchor baby from Puerto Rico.
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February 15th, 2009 at 5:21 pmI think there is some room for argument on this point. Is George W Bush the worst American President ever or merely among the worst?
February 15th, 2009 at 5:23 pmbenmaller <——–assclown extrodinaire
February 15th, 2009 at 5:25 pmthanks for the laugh
c’mon, you mean to tell me warren harding and millard fillmore were in the running to have a raw sewerage treatment plant named after them? that should count for something in the race for the worst.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:28 pmI would like to know what the track record of these historians are
in the past, when they rated a president did that rating stand the test of time?
I of course think bush falls into the top half of the top two worst presidents
February 15th, 2009 at 5:28 pmbenmaller Says:
Malkin is a JAP? I thought she was an anchor baby from Puerto Rico.
Don’t worry, ben. Michelle’s loyalty in unwavering. Go ahead, take another shot.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:28 pmWe are still savouring the bitter aftertaste of 8 years of criminal war, deceit and failed policy. 8 years of irreparable damage. The Bush worm pushed America off a cliff!
February 15th, 2009 at 5:29 pm*is
February 15th, 2009 at 5:29 pmjoe cantwell Says:
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notice how keltoi bails
out whenever bm, proud, ltdan, et al.
show up?
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he knows who’s in the charge
of the new republican party.
and he’s embarrassed.
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Wrong. I will stop ignoring you long enough to remind you you are on the ignore list.
Enjoy
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February 15th, 2009 at 5:39 pmWaitaminute, when did the historical debate about dropping the bomb on Japan become this politicized? As I’ve followed it, there is a traditional anti-bomb scholarly faction, a traditional pro-bombing scholarly faction, and various non-scholars chipping in on either side, some overtly political, some non-political.
Max Hastings’ Retribution is the latest big-seller on the topic, and the pro and anti-bombing discussions in the reviews on very enlightening. The moral case for not using the bomb is strong, but the practical, political case, after decades of research, still comes across as wishful thinking. The anti-bomb people still seem to insist that the Japanese government would have given up if we’d just made them the right offer. A reasonable action, but, if Imperial Japan had been governed by reasonable people, rather than fanatical militarists, it would not have picked fights with four continental powers (China, the Soviet Union, the British Empire, and the United States) over the course of a scant five years (1937-1941).
One of the more telling memes: several reviewers comment on how Truman and his people “knew” the Japanese were defeated. These critics miss out on an important point: Japan wasn’t going to surrender until the Japanese leadership knew it was defeated and those leaders found the courage to act on that knowledge. I have yet to hear a coherent argument that shows this happening before another million or so Japanese and another million or two of their Asian victims died of abuse and starvation in the months after the Allied victory off Okinawa. As it was, a political coalition willing to stand up to the militarists didn’t form until after the shock of Hiroshima, the Soviet invasion, and Nagasaki struck home over the course of four days in August, 1945. How much longer might the slaughter have continued if the radicals had had been competent enough to organize a counter-coup?
February 15th, 2009 at 5:39 pmI agree that this sort of thing really doesn’t change things in the big picture – it just makes for conversation — we already know Bush is among the worst, if not the worst, and we are going to suffer for it for many years.
I tell the young children in the family to remember this era because, when they have grandchildren, they can tell them they were alive to see the worst president in history.
BTW, when Repugs talk about the spending in the stimulus plan, why do they never mention the $10 billion per month in Iraq?
February 15th, 2009 at 5:42 pmOr the billions in cash that were just “lost?”
Or the enormous embassy built in Iraq?
All those billions of dollars, just lost, gone forever and what to show for it? More debt, more deficit, only death and destruction.
I think JFK deserves high marks for his Effect on the whole world.
If he had listened to his right wing, communist loathing advisers and handled the Cuban Missle Crisis with a BANG…we’d all be in our Bunkers rinsing the Radioactivity off of our Vegetables.
Fortunately, JFK had recently read Barbara Tuchman’s World War I book , The Guns of August…a great tale of how Nations Slide into a Disasterous War.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:45 pmThe same people who call Jimmy Carter bad call deregulation, Iran Contra, and tax cuts for the wealthy while running up the deficit Ronnie good. Go figure.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:46 pmDuring the 8 years of the Bush Regime, Americans knew we were witnessing the worst presidency in the history of our nation. By the time Karl Rove and others are done rewriting those years, ole Georgie will be the ‘bestest president evah’!
February 15th, 2009 at 5:48 pmhear!, hear! Kas – an insult from a Righty is always taken as a compliment from my p.o.v.
the minute you hear a R praising one of ours, you’ll know we’ve got trouble.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:51 pmOf course, since Bush II was never President, he gets off on a technicality.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pmSounds about right to me. Actually, I thought he’d be lower. Guess they’re feeling sorry for the sap.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pmKeltoi at Night Says:
joe cantwell Says:
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notice how keltoi bails
out whenever bm, proud, ltdan, et al.
show up?
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he knows who’s in the charge
of the new republican party.
and he’s embarrassed.
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Wrong. I will stop ignoring you long enough to remind you you are on the ignore list.
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February 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pmBush was rated #41 in International Relations by historians.
wow,
February 15th, 2009 at 5:58 pmThat’s what was supposed to be Bush’s strength,as we were told.
Cheney, Rove,Condi and many others of Bush’s buddies who spoke loudly about Bush being the man who was cut for international relations.
We were told by Bush’s party spin masters that Bush democratized many countries making the claim about his greatness and mastery in the field of International Relations.
When all the facts come out about two stolen elections and it turns out that W was never actually elected without caging and election fraud how will that improve his standing. In addition, shouldn’t the fact that so many people who lived through his presidency think he’s the worst ever count for anything? Not yet maybe but eventually when the spinners are all gone it will count.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pmI know it’s O/T, but this topic is silly…
However, THIS one is going to heat up over the next few days…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/14/burris-blagojevich-asked_n_166974.html
Burris: Blagojevich Asked For Campaign Money Before Senate Appointment
JOHN O’CONNOR | February 14, 2009 11:46 PM EST |
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. — Raising fresh questions about his appointment to Congress, Sen. Roland Burris admitted in a document released Saturday that former Gov. Rod Blagojevich’s brother asked him for campaign fundraising help before the governor named Burris as Illinois’ junior senator.
The disclosure reflects a major omission from Burris’ testimony in January when an Illinois House impeachment committee specifically asked if he had ever spoken to Robert Blagojevich or other aides to the now-deposed governor about the Senate seat vacated by Barack Obama.
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What did the fat one in Laurel and hardy used to say all the time?
“Well… this is another fine mess you’ve gotten us into…!!”
Perhaps the Dems that didn’t want to seat Burris were right after all.
When you decided to LIE, UNDER OATH, what did you think would happen, Roland?
February 15th, 2009 at 6:22 pmT – u must’ve missed the bulletin. “Smug foppishness” is the new “cool”.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:26 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
Perhaps the Dems that didn’t want to seat Burris were right after all.
When you decided to LIE, UNDER OATH, what did you think would happen, Roland?
February 15th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Holy Flurking Shnit! Will Senator Roland Burris become the First African American From Illinois to be Expelled From the US Senate? Will he have to add that to his mausoleum, or can he just leave that one out, the way Jefferson left the fact that he was the third President of the United States off his monument? (He grew to hate the job.)
I hope, for all our sakes, that there’s a good explanation for this. I really do.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:36 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
Holy Flurking Shnit!
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You can say that again…
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Wayne A. Schneider Says:
Holy Flurking Shnit!
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I was only kidding, but I can see your point..
Frivolity aside…
(Did you EVER think you’d see THOSE words coming from MY computer???)
Whatta Mucking Fess… sorry, but I’d reckon Burris is TOAST at this point.
Can’t wait to see how this ends up sliding down the wall…
February 15th, 2009 at 6:42 pmooh! – the shortbus got here!!
fun!!
February 15th, 2009 at 6:45 pmDon’t get too excited, tom…
JK is a master of the “Poo’nShoo”
He, or she, as the case may be, never sticks around to defend its inane ramblings.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:47 pmOne thing you can say on Carter’s behalf…
He didn’t get nearly as many people KILLED when he he made mistakes.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:48 pmNor did Jimmy manage to run up a SIX TRILLION dollar debt in just eight years.
Can we PLEASE make sure no one EVER uses the phrase “fiscally responsible” in the same sentence w/ “Republicans” ever again, unless the word NOT is included?
February 15th, 2009 at 6:49 pmapparently, john kerry troll, you’re the only one who thinks so. 43 was given a paltry 150g for his first speaking engagement. that’s roughly 1/10th of what bill clinton gets per engagement.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:53 pmy – i know ol’ jk. he’s been poppin’ and squattin’ ’round here as long as I’ve been coming.
can’t picture him without one of those old-school qb helmets on.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:56 pmI’ve been trying to understand the visceral hatred that people like our friend, “John Kerry” here, have for President Jimmy Carter. I’m coming to think that maybe it has to do with the fact that it was Carter that their “hero”, Ronald Reagan (who’s dead, BTW, in case anyone didn’t know), defeated in 1980, when most of the problems we have today can, arguably, be said to have begun.
Reagan was Good, so Carter had to be Evil, because that’s the way their two-dimensional worldview can see things. There is no in-between, and no room for subtlety. You are Good, or you are Evil. (I think the evangelical wing of the Republican Party had something to do with this thinking, too.) And because Carter was the first “Evil” one to be defeated by the Republicans, he has earned their “ranking” of him as the Most Evil President ever.
In their world, there was no USA before Ronald Reagan. Perhaps they were so busy trying to block Nixon out of their minds, and Gerald Ford and his “Whip Inflation Now” buttons, that they actually believe these things just didn’t happen. The world began with Ronald the Good and his victory over Jimmy the Evil.
Could it be that simple? I hope not. That would be scary.
Oh, well. Carry on, folks.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:58 pmTrajan75 IQ Says:
Keltoi says:
Wrong. I will stop ignoring you long enough to remind you you are on the ignore list.
Keltoi, for the benefit of those here trying to keep score, does your ignore list apply only to your Keltoi character or is it also shared with your various sock puppets?
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does this answer your question?
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John Kerry Says:
Where was the WORST President ever – Jimmah Carter?
Where was BK Clinton??
George Bush rules!
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and where’s keltoi?
bailed out.
again.
:)
February 15th, 2009 at 7:01 pmthe myth of “bad cater” was the necessary prerequisite to the myth of the “good reagan”.
can’t have a fake hero if he doesn’t have a fake dragon to slay.
February 15th, 2009 at 7:02 pms/b “bad carter” – i know nothing of how the various presidents have dined.
February 15th, 2009 at 7:03 pm…other than “better than I”.
February 15th, 2009 at 7:04 pmHAHAHA
Won’t the trolls bust their single braincell when President Obama will be the best president ever.
February 15th, 2009 at 7:18 pmKeltoi has an Ignore List™
Keltoi is Frank M.?
February 15th, 2009 at 7:27 pmhell – they might all be one person for all i know, ralph. they all run on exactly the same wavelength, albeit varying frequencies.
February 15th, 2009 at 7:36 pmThe wingnuts can really pick them can’t they? And they defend him as good! Go figure those wingnuts.
February 15th, 2009 at 7:45 pmThere’s no question that W. was America’s most successful president. Consider the following:
1. Before 2000, he said that, if elected, he wanted to be a “war president”
2. Toward this goal, he saw to it that Clinton’s advice about the danger posed by al Qaeda was ignored, and no meetings were held to consider terrorism until a week before 9/11.
3. Also toward this goal, he ignored a specific warning on August 6, 2001 about Osama bin Laden attacking inside the USA.
4. Due to his lead in ignoring terrorism, on 9/11/2001, W. got his excuse to realize his dream of being a “war president”
by invading Afghanistan, ostensibly to capture the mastermind of 9/11. He wasted lives and resources in this seven-year failed effort, yet almost totally escaped criticism for failure. He must be tremendously satisfied.
5. He invaded another country unrelated to the 9/11 attack on America for his own reasons, but told the American public a pack of lies for which he has not been held accountable. Is there any greater success a president can claim than to invade, occupy, kill, and maim for his personal pleasure even though it has been to the detriment of America’s security?
6. He wanted to transfer more of America’s wealth to the richest Americans and succeeded without opposition. Now his “base” has mega-mansions and riches beyond imagining.
7. He has led the way in ruining the economies of America and the world by escalating an anti-regulatory agenda beyond anything seen since the Great Depression…and has not been held accountable for it. His fiscal policies have seen more ordinary working Americans losing their homes to foreclosure than at any time since the Great Depression.
8. He has wiped his ass on America’s once-treasured Constitution, broken domestic and international laws with impunity and, when caught, said he would continue doing so.
9. He wasn’t happy with a Dept of Justice concerned with the rule of law, so he made it over into a politically-oriented organization to rig elections and punish those who didn’t do his bidding.
10. He convinced, coerced, perhaps blackmailed(?), the US Congress to support his every wish, with the exception of his desire to hand Social Security to his Wall St. cronies.
This brief list could go on and on. There hasn’t ever been another president so bent on destroying America’s principles, reputation, security, economy…and so dazzlingly successful in attaining these personal goals!
February 15th, 2009 at 8:04 pm“In” the top 10!?! I protest! That inept stooge should be ranked #1 worst president and should be sitting in a dark prison cell along with his evil minions.
February 15th, 2009 at 8:05 pmBush records, Michael Phelps don’t have sh^t on Bush:
*Holds the record for biggest national debt.
*Holds the record for biggest trade deficit.
*Holds the record for spending, defeated all previous administrations total combined spending.
*First president to send the country into two wars.
*First president with a criminal record.
*First president in history to give out tax cuts while the nation was at war.
*First president to flip off the Geneva Conventions.
*First president to legalize torture.
*First president to get a shoe thrown at him.
February 15th, 2009 at 8:15 pmHi John Kerry:
February 15th, 2009 at 8:16 pmIt is sort of family cuisine but I have a nice baked ziti loaded up with onions, peppers, and sausage. Of course the red sauce is home made. Oh and by the way are you a pussy because you seem like a pussy?
tHere is still people out there sohbet blames clinton about some chaos such as economy and osama bin ladin, they still think Bush has nothing to do in those crisis, who does extremist republicans, he was worst and he will be worst, don’t forget he has a brother don’t give their family another chance to wound us AGAIN.
February 15th, 2009 at 8:37 pmWhy do my spidey senses tell me that the youtube links are security issues? Is it just me?
February 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pmTrajan75 IQ Says:
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Keltoi says:
Wrong. I will stop ignoring you long enough to remind you you are on the ignore list.
Keltoi, for the benefit of those here trying to keep score, does your ignore list apply only to your Keltoi character or is it also shared with your various sock puppets?
Sock Puppets…well, that is a brand new baseless accusation, congratulations! Who the Hell are you again?
February 15th, 2009 at 8:46 pmKeltoi at Night Says:
Trajan75 IQ Says:
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Keltoi says:
Wrong. I will stop ignoring you long enough to remind you you are on the ignore list.
Keltoi, for the benefit of those here trying to keep score, does your ignore list apply only to your Keltoi character or is it also shared with your various sock puppets?
Sock Puppets…well, that is a brand new baseless accusation, congratulations! Who the Hell are you again?
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keltoi it would be more
enlightening if you were
to look in the mirror and ask,
“who are you?”
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i wish you luck.
^
February 15th, 2009 at 8:55 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
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I’ve been trying to understand the visceral hatred that people like our friend, “John Kerry” here, have for President Jimmy Carter.
I don’t hate Carter. My problem with him is he was the first ex-President to break the tradition of not criticizing current Presidents. I know he gets credit for that with some because he was “speaking the truth” (as he saw it) but I thought that it was fitting that one of the prices you paid for being a former President was not second guessing the current one, in public anyway. Carter thought it was more important everyone know what Carter thought than to not diminish the Office. But I certainly don’t hate him…I figure he deserves the low ranking he earned on this list, but that is about it.
February 15th, 2009 at 8:55 pmKeltoi at Night Says:
Wayne A. Schneider Says:
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I’ve been trying to understand the visceral hatred that people like our friend, “John Kerry” here, have for President Jimmy Carter.
I don’t hate Carter. My problem with him is he was the first ex-President to break the tradition of not criticizing current Presidents. I know he gets credit for that with some because he was “speaking the truth” (as he saw it) but I thought that it was fitting that one of the prices you paid for being a former President was not second guessing the current one, in public anyway. Carter thought it was more important everyone know what Carter thought than to not diminish the Office. But I certainly don’t hate him…I figure he deserves the low ranking he earned on this list, but that is about it.
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not a single fact to support
your thesis, k.
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baseless, anyone?
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Keltoi has an Ignore List™
Keltoi is Frank M.?
I am not getting this…I kinda remember a Frank M., but only kinda? And is an ignore list bad? There are some posters (rhf, McMetal, Joe, Fred) who don’t read what you write, project their own attitudes on you, pretend you are saying something you never said, then call you a name for it and think themselves clever. So I ignore them – why wouldn’t I, responding is simply nourishing them.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:00 pmKeltoi at Night Says:
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ralph the wonder llama Says:
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Keltoi has an Ignore List™
Keltoi is Frank M.?
I am not getting this…I kinda remember a Frank M., but only kinda? And is an ignore list bad? There are some posters (rhf, McMetal, Joe, Fred) who don’t read what you write, project their own attitudes on you, pretend you are saying something you never said, then call you a name for it and think themselves clever. So I ignore them – why wouldn’t I, responding is simply nourishing them.
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nourish us with some facts, k.
oh that’s right,
you “ignore” them too.
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btw, did you notice that
proud, jk, bm, trace, ltdan et al.
are not on k’s list?
iokiyarwt.
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(it’s ok if you’re a right wing troll)
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February 15th, 2009 at 9:05 pmKeltoi, I think it was Frank M. who had an extensive Ignore List way back when. He had another screen name before that, but my recall is not that good. If you remember Frank, he was rather haughty and arrogant, without any justification, and he made a big deal out of his Ignore List.
I believe that was Frank M, wasn’t it? can anyone help me out?
February 15th, 2009 at 9:07 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
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Keltoi, I think it was Frank M. who had an extensive Ignore List way back when. He had another screen name before that, but my recall is not that good. If you remember Frank, he was rather haughty and arrogant, without any justification, and he made a big deal out of his Ignore List.
I believe that was Frank M, wasn’t it? can anyone help me out?
Was he a righty or a lefty? I only vaguely remember him, I think he was a righty.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:09 pmKeltoi at Night Says:
I am not getting this…I kinda remember a Frank M., but only kinda? And is an ignore list bad? There are some posters (rhf, McMetal, Joe, Fred) who don’t read what you write, project their own attitudes on you, pretend you are saying something you never said, then call you a name for it and think themselves clever. So I ignore them – why wouldn’t I, responding is simply nourishing them.
I thought it was Jake that had the ignore list. It was simple enough to get on the list — all you had to do was present Jake with questions he couldn’t answer, points he couldn’t respond to and, bingo, you’re ignored.
But, Keltoi, you need to take more ownership. Why bother with all the second person commentary? “There are some posters (rhf, McMetal, Joe, Fred) who don’t read what I write, project their own attitudes on me, pretend I am saying something I never said, then call me a name for it and think themselves clever.” (fixed it)
For what it’s worth, I don’t think you’ve got sock puppets. Issues maybe. But not sock puppets.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:10 pmI always wished to be on Franks’s ignore list. The thing is you knew Frank M was reading everything he/she claimed to be ignoring. It has to do with that weird attention thing
February 15th, 2009 at 9:11 pmgummitch is correct. It was Jake
February 15th, 2009 at 9:12 pmrimhotep Says:
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Sounds about right to me. Actually, I thought he’d be lower. Guess they’re feeling sorry for the sap.
It’s only because he’s still alive – once bush is dead and gone he will be crowned America’s worst president ever!
February 15th, 2009 at 9:14 pmdbadass Says:
I always wished to be on Franks’s ignore list. The thing is you knew Frank M was reading everything he/she claimed to be ignoring. It has to do with that weird attention thing
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yes, but was he a righty or a lefty?
k really needs to find out.
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February 15th, 2009 at 9:14 pmThat’s right, gum — it was Jake, and I’m pretty sure that Jake and Frank were the same troll.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:14 pmYeah, Frank M was a righty, and pretty dim, even for a troll. He was fond of a certain phrase, and I can’t think of it right now — I think it was “for the record”. Yeah, that was it. He was fond of clarifying things for everybody by stating, “for the record, I believe blah blah blah,” if I remember correctly.
That was back in the golden age of trolling. These kids today, they just don’t have what it takes.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:14 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
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I’ve been trying to understand the visceral hatred that people like our friend, “John Kerry” here, have for President Jimmy Carter.
Keltoi at Night Says:
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I don’t hate Carter. My problem with him is he was the first ex-President to break the tradition of not criticizing current Presidents.
You know, someone more cynical than me might take this to mean that you are answering a comment directed at John Kerry because you post under that name, too.
But I’m not that cynical.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:18 pmWayne, if we discover that Keltoi also posts under the John Kerry brand, I will have immense respect for him, for being able to maintain the integrity of that character, so different from his primary voice.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:20 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
Wayne A. Schneider Says:
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I’ve been trying to understand the visceral hatred that people like our friend, “John Kerry” here, have for President Jimmy Carter.
Keltoi at Night Says:
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I don’t hate Carter. My problem with him is he was the first ex-President to break the tradition of not criticizing current Presidents.
You know, someone more cynical than me might take this to mean that you are answering a comment directed at John Kerry because you post under that name, too.
But I’m not that cynical.
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refer to k’s posted “ignore” list.
do you see the name john kerry?
neither do i.
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February 15th, 2009 at 9:21 pmRanked 24 for “pursued equal justice for all”? wtf!?!
February 15th, 2009 at 9:22 pmUnless Karl Rove gives free working iPhones, Starbucks gift cards and back massages to 55% of working Americans, Bush’s legacy can’t be talked or shoehorned into anything but what it is:
A complete pile of dog sh!t
February 15th, 2009 at 9:23 pmralph,
Some of you here pay more attention to those details than I. I usually try to tackle actual arguments made or outright lies proferred. Plus the odd snarky comment now and then.
But I do enjoy watching you guys dissect the trolls. It’s fun. Got my popcorn right here, and I just enjoy the show. :)
February 15th, 2009 at 9:23 pmEtherealStrife Says:
Ranked 24 for “pursued equal justice for all”? wtf!?!
Some people probably know of the unethical behavior some called “law” at certain points in the 19th century.
Then again, some neocons also bloated this number since they thought dumb wanna-be Arab “terrorists” could play terrorist Rambo pizza jihad on a U.S. military base.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:28 pmlike all things Bush it’s not even worth debating, he is so far and away the worst that debating his place in history and giving him scores denigrates the historians more than it does bush, he was good at giving nicknames, though
February 15th, 2009 at 9:40 pmJoe Liberman is always wrong. But the historians are right. I wonder just how successful the Bush legacy bunch will be in re-writing history? They are hard at it. And with most of the corporate media owned by conservative, neocons, it makes you wonder just how much truth will be forth coming.
With most Americans too stupid to read or know their own history, it is up for grabs. It is one reason why Bush and Cheney were so successful in lying for eight years. Why they were able to subvert the Constitution with barely a whimper out of nearly anyone. WE deserve what we get.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:42 pmthe hallmark of the bush administration
was the concept of “privatization”. in defense,
social security and energy policy. it failed in
so many ways it’s hard to count. here’s an example
of how it was used in the justice system to harm
our children.
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k, you can go ahead and “ignore” this link
so you can keep your bush fantasy alive.
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February 15th, 2009 at 9:43 pmWow. I only post every now and then, but because of that sometimes I forget how long I have been tuning into TP. Jake?! Oh I remember the ignore list. Frank M sounds familiar too.
As Wayne mentioned earlier, I am not too attuned to the multiple personalities.
That being said, I don’t picture Keltoi being one of them. Keltoi is far too socially aware. Unlike the virulent troll (imho). He values fitting in with only a modicum of dissent. He has his viewpoint but thinks he has a chance to persuade. Not necessarily an unwelcome characteristic. It’s just unfortunate the most of Keltoi’s ideas are not all that distinct from the right wing ho hum.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:51 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Yeah, Frank M was a righty, and pretty dim, even for a troll. He was fond of a certain phrase, and I can’t think of it right now — I think it was “for the record”.
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I beg to differ…
“For the record” was Jake D’s tag line… if I’m not mistaken.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:56 pmI like looking at groups.
Note that FDR and Teddy R were both grouped at the top. (And this , despite FDR causing the depression) :-(
Near the Bottom, Bush but also Pierce – direct ancestor of Bush through Barbara Bush nee Pierce.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:57 pmOoops… heh… that’s what I get for posting w/out reading the whole thread…
Youse guys already nailed Jake…
Boy… talk about your annoying trolls…
He even got himself booted off the NY TImes threads too. Someone here… Bilbo, or maybe Bartlebee, cut and pasted a comment from Moderation over at the Times stating unequivocally, “Jake D has been banned…”
Good times… good times… :-)
February 15th, 2009 at 10:00 pmIt really doesn’t matter what some polled historians say.
I will make sure any of the younger generation I come in contact with understands who the worst president in American history is:
George-Katrina-Abu Ghraib-Hillbilly Armor-Yellowcake-Plame-Patriot Act-Recession-Bailout-Blackwater-KBR-Halliburton-Iraq-Tillman/Lynch Lies-Abramoff-Drydrunk-AWOL-Mission Accomplished-Illegal Spying-Enhanced Interrogation-Waterboarding-Gitmo-Signing Statements-Stop Loss-PDB-Vacation Days-911-911 Stonewall-Jeff Gannon-Armstrong Williams-WMD-Enron-Curveball-Cheers Program-Medicare Fiasco-Bring ‘Em On-Scooter-Alberto Gonzales-My Pet Goat-Rendition-Office Of Special Plans-EPA Lies-Bush Doctrine-Mobile Chemical Labs-Ashcroft-Homeland Security-Terror Watch List-TIPS Program-Loyalty Oaths-Bush
There are more, but this should list bury the nearest conceivable contender…
February 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pmTrajan75 IQ Says:
JakeD also got himself banned at TPM and Josh Marshall even posted the reason why he took that step.
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Well, dang… sure wish I had witnessed that, just for the sheer entertainment value of it all.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:13 pmfacts:
hanshiro Says:
It really doesn’t matter what some polled historians say.
I will make sure any of the younger generation I come in contact with understands who the worst president in American history is:
George-Katrina-Abu Ghraib-Hillbilly Armor-Yellowcake-Plame-Patriot Act-Recession-Bailout-Blackwater-KBR-Halliburton-Iraq-Tillman/Lynch Lies-Abramoff-Drydrunk-AWOL-Mission Accomplished-Illegal Spying-Enhanced Interrogation-Waterboarding-Gitmo-Signing Statements-Stop Loss-PDB-Vacation Days-911-911 Stonewall-Jeff Gannon-Armstrong Williams-WMD-Enron-Curveball-Cheers Program-Medicare Fiasco-Bring ‘Em On-Scooter-Alberto Gonzales-My Pet Goat-Rendition-Office Of Special Plans-EPA Lies-Bush Doctrine-Mobile Chemical Labs-Ashcroft-Homeland Security-Terror Watch List-TIPS Program-Loyalty Oaths-Bush
There are more, but this should list bury the nearest conceivable contender…
fact free:
Keltoi at Night Says:
I don’t hate Carter. My problem with him is he was the first ex-President to break the tradition of not criticizing current Presidents. I know he gets credit for that with some because he was “speaking the truth” (as he saw it) but I thought that it was fitting that one of the prices you paid for being a former President was not second guessing the current one, in public anyway. Carter thought it was more important everyone know what Carter thought than to not diminish the Office. But I certainly don’t hate him…I figure he deserves the low ranking he earned on this list, but that is about it.
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thank you hanshiro.
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February 15th, 2009 at 10:14 pmRead the comments here to see talk about JakeD’s banning on TPM.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:25 pmBush was #1 in Corporafornication. He opened the door for private equity to invest in banks with fewer restrictions.
Geithner continues the gravy train, according to WaPo
Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner last week said he will seek private-sector help for the banks, offering loans at favorable rates and putting up government backing to reduce the risks to investors like Carlyle.
With $40 billion in cash on the sidelines waiting for the right play, Carlyle could find many profitable deals in the financial sector.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:28 pmyou know i thought keltoi
would stick around and
defend bush.
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i thought wrong.
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so much for his place in history.
:)
February 15th, 2009 at 11:06 pmI’m 90% sure that Frank M was the same troll as Jake. They had very similar styles, including the way they addressed other posters directly, and I think they even shared the signature “for the record” line.
I’m probably too enamored of Whack-A-Troll, but it’s just so much FUN!
I certainly appreciate the less-troll-centric contributions of Wayne and the, shall we say, more mature posters here?
TRoS and I, we’ll take care of the trolls, you guys take care of the arguments. And we’ll lend a hand when we can, you guys do likewise.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:33 pmCome on, face it, Bush is at the bottom of the worst ten…
…besides being the most criminal…
…and a WAR CRIMINAL to boot.
That makes him absolutely the worst…just wait till he goes to trial for war crimes…the repukes will be screaming that he was actually a liberal.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:33 pmAnd I agree, Keltoi is a stand-up dissenter, not a troll, not the operator of any sock puppets (I believe).
February 15th, 2009 at 11:34 pmI’d take 3 Millard Fillmore’s to a Bush in the Oval Office.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:35 pmIn a hundred years, they’ll still revile Bush, the president who set America back two generations.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:36 pmHow funny is it that the best attempt the Right can come up with in their quest to challenge Doonesbury on the funny pages is named after a president who scores even lower than Dumbya?
February 15th, 2009 at 11:40 pmAh yes, ranking Gerogie-The-Poo brings to mind this quote:
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” — H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)
February 15th, 2009 at 11:40 pmralphy, would that be the fumb duck Mallard Fillmore?
February 15th, 2009 at 11:46 pmHow in the Hell can he rank as high as 47? That means there’s like five others worse? Jeebus.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:46 pmSubmitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993
You seem to be a smart person Wang.
What are your thoughts on the future since Bush is no longer in office?
February 15th, 2009 at 11:47 pmEr, take 10 away, 37??
February 15th, 2009 at 11:48 pmDemocracy is not perfect because finance corrupts it.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:52 pmAny other administration….:
Inherit a surplus and take us to a $1.2 TRILLION annual deficit?
Have 935 recorded lies taking us into a counter-productive war costing $3 TRILLION?
Kill, needlessly, 1,304,200? (Nixon and LBJ about 1,600,000 each)?
Second only to Hoover in bad job creation?
Lost a city as large as New Orleans?
Allowed an attack as bad as 9/11?
Authorized torture and rendition?
Conducted such blatant aggression?
And everything hanshiro said.
February 16th, 2009 at 12:23 amDubya would have been rated dead last, but he’s not dead yet.
http://jackrabbitcafe.blogspot.com
February 16th, 2009 at 12:43 amWhat do you mean President Obama hasn’t been rated yet?
–concern repug
February 16th, 2009 at 1:29 amralph the wonder llama Says:
And I agree, Keltoi is a stand-up dissenter, not a troll, not the operator of any sock puppets (I believe).
Are you talking about Keltoi who couldn’t stop defending Bush?
February 16th, 2009 at 1:36 amI’ll never live down peeing in Daryll’s bird bath…
February 16th, 2009 at 2:43 amralph the wonder llama Says:
I’m probably too enamored of Whack-A-Troll, but it’s just so much FUN!
I certainly appreciate the less-troll-centric contributions of Wayne and the, shall we say, more mature posters here?
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TRoS enters, wearing baggy pants, floppy shoes, and red rubber nose…
“MORE MATURE”??? And what am I… a clown??? Do I AMUSE YOU???
February 16th, 2009 at 3:02 amZooey Says:
I’ll never live down peeing in Daryll’s bird bath…
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You forgot to blush demurely…
The problem won’t be living it down, Z… it’ll be living up to such high standards going forward. Talk about raising the bar for the rest of us…
February 16th, 2009 at 3:03 amActually, Michelle Malice is an American of Philipine descent.
benmaller Says:
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Bozo The Neoclown Says:
tokyo rose malkin…is that you?
Malkin is a JAP? I thought she was an anchor baby from Puerto Rico.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:04 amJust saw Oliver Stone’s W. Thought it was a little too kind to him, but I always thought he was a tragic character that was out of his depth.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:10 amLatest chapter in the Hal Turner saga: We’re not bigots, we’re patriots.”
February 16th, 2009 at 7:44 amHeh, heh, heh:
Ex-Bush administration lawyers who crafted the legal framework for waterboarding and other interrogation tactics – and assert that they do not constitute torture – may be on the verge of a bit of legal trouble themselves.
At least three former top Bush lawyers face possible disciplinary action from state bar associations for what a former Justice Department official has called “deeply flawed” and “sloppily reasoned” legal analysis.
Jay Bybee and John Yoo – who wrote last month that Bush’s torture programs were initially designed to outwit crafty defense attorneys – have been “sharply criticized” in an internal Justice Department report, according to Newsweek. A draft of the report from the Office of Professional Responsibility, the department’s watchdog unit, was submitted during the waning days of the Bush administration, but former Attorney General Michael Mukasey objected to it, according to the story.
Now, what sort of disciplinary action would be merited for providing arguments that directly contradict established precedent, and lead to an abrogation of a international treaty?
At the very least, they should have their law licenses revoked for a few years, and not be allowed to teach law, as a consequence.
February 16th, 2009 at 7:49 amBushwas/is the most pathetic human being (not just president)
February 16th, 2009 at 8:34 amI ever hope stains this country.
You don’t need to walk past a sewer plant twice to know it stinks.
Wasn’t frank m the guy who admitted he wouldn’t sign up because he was afraid for his own safety?
take care
tony and lido
Doesn’t say much for the American presidency that G.H.W. Bush is ranked 18th.
February 16th, 2009 at 9:21 amGEORGE W. BUSH- WORST PRESIDENT EVER!
Worse than pappy Bush
Worse than Tricky Dick
Worse than Ray-gun
Worse than Hoover
Worst of the worst
February 16th, 2009 at 9:21 amI’ll always remember GWB as the only President to have a male hooker lob softball questions to him at press conferences.
8 Years without a Leader
February 16th, 2009 at 9:28 amJake was the idjit who cut and pasted someone’s military career verbatim from a Korean War blog.
Tracist__5 is just an idjit!
February 16th, 2009 at 9:37 amHere’s a link that hints at the effectiveness of “KARMA”
http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2009/02/15/bush-libary-hit-by-bush-recession/
February 16th, 2009 at 9:38 amThe discussion of Jake and Frank M is definitely a trip down memory lane. I’m getting a bit nostalgic, missing some of the old troll gang (Mighty Aphrodite, Jason M Hendler, roger_roger). It’s too bad we didn’t have our own TP historian to keep a record of the “best” of the trolls. We could have had our own ranking.
February 16th, 2009 at 9:42 amHmm,
February 16th, 2009 at 9:58 amLooks like this is a holiday for TP.
The Chicago Sun has a listing ans a vote at the end. “Do you think President Bush should be ranked at 36?” It doesn’t give a selection as above or below. They can make every “NO” vote to mean he should be rated higher. I would rate him at 41.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:00 amoops – that would be DreamCrusher…
February 16th, 2009 at 10:05 amgood morning… forgot about the “holiday”…
hey, PLC – long time ago i started a list… some big names:
FrankJ (aka FrankM)
Billy Hill
muckdog
DrDog (?)
Usual Leftist
Beefeater
francie,,,,,,,
Hits-hits (aka bit bit ???)
O.Bigfoot
CreamCrusher
USA_Patriot
Stubain
anvilhead
hee haw
the all-time most dispicable would be I-Right-I……
February 16th, 2009 at 10:05 am~~~shiver~~~
wheee! time travel!
February 16th, 2009 at 10:06 amNo Darlyy?
February 16th, 2009 at 10:09 amMy take is that the trolls used to be paid by the RNC, and when that script ended, both trolls just went back under their bridges.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:10 amI would have ranked him as the worst.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:10 amCan’t we have a new thread please?
The only thing worse than living through dur chimpfurher’s reign of terror, brought on by the criminal cabal that fraudulently hoisted this abusive AWOL alcoholic/cocaine addict into the White House is reading 200+ comment threads about chimpy – even when the vast majority are spot-on.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:25 amfear not, watchdog,
February 16th, 2009 at 10:26 amas more and more becomes known of this administration, i am comfortable 43 will continue to sink lower and lower
watchdog may be correct in one aspect. It may take a generation to fully realize the damage the Bush legacy dumps on the American people.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:27 amseems the gypsy fortune tellers are in town
February 16th, 2009 at 10:31 amA surplus? You mean, like the one Clinton left in Dubay’s care?
Does this mean “RaptureReady” has been banned, and Daryll’s back with a new incarnation?
That makes me sad. I suspect the Christianist Daryll will prove to be a lot more entertaining than “Republican Councilman Daryll”.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:36 amWell, Darlyy’s back, albeit in a confused and delusional state. No populace in their right mind would elect you dogcatcher, or deer catcher, Darlyy.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:36 amLooks like Darlyy’s cushy DOD contracts are over, he’s now living in Dad’s basement in Whitley country Indiana, worshipfully staring at the tiny deer head mounted on the wall.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:37 amI am confused as to what this statement has to do with the comment it is somehow suppose to rebut
“Highly doubtful. Iraq is normalizing.”
February 16th, 2009 at 10:37 amLike the ‘librul’ media, right Darlyy?
February 16th, 2009 at 10:38 amFuture Whitley Co. Councilman
President-Elect Huckabee
Tooth Fairy
Santa Claus
Easter Bunny
Monster Under the Bed
Compassionate Conservative
So many fantasies, so little realities.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:39 amYep, it’s our Daryll, back in one of the pre-chosen forms.
(After the rectification of the Vuldranai the traveler took the form of a large, moving Tor.)
February 16th, 2009 at 10:40 amBear in mind, folks, that this is the guy who insisted on calling his chosen candidate “President-elect Huckabee” because God told him it was cool to go ahead and do so, it was a done deal.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:42 amFrom there, the sky is the limit.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:42 am—
Wonderful. Another Rapture loon…
“Daryll – Future Whitless Co. Councilman”
February 16th, 2009 at 10:42 amthat’s much better
DARYLL’S HERE! Parteee!
It is the liberals’ fault for making the public believe false accusations. Most citizens do not conduct extensive research on their politicians, so they believe the media’s point of view as gospel.
Setting up your fall back position when you lose your election? Good Republican strategy.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:42 amBigot much?
February 16th, 2009 at 10:43 amhey darryl,
February 16th, 2009 at 10:43 amwho’s entertaining your old gal while you post for 14 hours straight on thinkprogress? perhaps that’s why your mailman and paperboy have kool-aide grins on their faces these days
Nope. Same Rapture loon.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:43 amCrap, I was hoping Darlyy’d be raptured by now, or his cranium exploded by the FACT of the Obama presidency.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:45 amSteve Shine, former WFFT Reporter and the Allen County Republican Party Leader
It is the liberals’ fault for making the public believe false accusations. Most citizens do not conduct extensive research on their politicians, so they believe the media’s point of view as gospel.
You wouldn’t be counting on “the media” to help you in your campaign would you?
February 16th, 2009 at 10:46 amU.S. News reports;
George W. Bush is Fundraising Personally for His Library
February 14, 2009 01:21 PM ET | Paul Bedard |
By Paul Bedard, Washington Whispers
Don’t say that former President Bush hasn’t been hit by the crumbling economy he handed off to President Obama. Friends tell us that it has slowed the drive to raise some $500 million to build and endow the George W. Bush Presidential Center at Dallas’s Southern Methodist University. “It’s a bad environment,” says one. Bush is taking no chances: He’s making donor calls himself, and even his dad, the 41st president, is helping out, as are former aides like Karl Rove. In the future, say associates, look for Bush to host fundraising events in order to meet a goal of completing construction in 2013. But for now, “he’s laying low,” says one.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:46 amhelping us create a generous economic surplus. -Daryll
are you SURE it’s not a parody?
’cause it sure sounds like a parody…
gotta be a parody.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:47 amI thought Daryll lived in Virginia?
So he’s planning on carpetbagging on county council seat in Indiana? Has he so thoroughly trashed his own reputation where he currently lives?
February 16th, 2009 at 10:47 amAre you going to run on the ole “ready for rapture” platform big D? Because that will sell… religion always does.
“lets get reeeaaadddy fooorrr raaaptuuuureee!!!”
Sounds like a plan, D.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:48 amgodspeed.
Daryll: You should really appreciate that a young person, like me, is looking forward to running for office in the future.
Young person, old ideas. I would bet that any Democratic opponent you might have would REALLY look forward to you running against him or her.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:48 amdarrly,
February 16th, 2009 at 10:48 amare you in mclean courting jeff gannon of talon news to handle the publicity for your run for office?
God told me you are going to lose
February 16th, 2009 at 10:50 amSounds like a bit of a sinecure to me. And a pretty darn stable one, too. Daryll could spend all day “shaking the devil off” in his wastebasket and still keep his job, sounds like.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:51 ammatt,
February 16th, 2009 at 10:51 amlet’s not forget my favorite: the bill orally loon who showed up to a church and mowed down a bunch of old folks and kids putting on a performance of “annie” because he had a hard on for libruls.
katy, it may well be a parody. But if it is, it’s a pretty well executed parody. So I play along out of appreciation.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:53 amI beg to differ because he is on my side.
—
February 16th, 2009 at 10:59 amBut he talks to me.
Does this sound familiar to anyone else?
Think back…
“People say I’m an idiot because all I do is cut lawns for a living.”
“Oh, People don’t say that about you, as far as you know.”
“Well, I’m working on it so I don’t ever have to… I’ll be the head greenskeeper, hopefully within six years. That’s my schedule…”
February 16th, 2009 at 11:00 amMr. P has to be on the list. Although I think he is already present and accounted for on katy’s list. Is this the flip side of the Ignore List?
Mighty Aphrodite was reincarnated as Valient Venus and most recently (I think) as janette somethingorother.
Proud
February 16th, 2009 at 11:00 amRoger, rogerse, rozerge
LTDan
r2d2
lock box
prytania
dribbledick(?)
Tanqueray
Ice
JT
Hey the sky’s the limit. Why set such low expectations? Why not privatize Indiana?
February 16th, 2009 at 11:05 amDaryll, if you’re referring to Bush, you may want to be a bit more careful with your citation of “facts” in your campaign.
The unemployment rate was lower under Clinton than it ever reached under Bush.
You probably don’t have to worry about, though. Republicans don’t seem to concern themselves with “facts” when making their electoral choices.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:06 amYeah, well, you said that about “President-elect Huckabee” too.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:07 amum… daryll? did you know about this?
Meanwhile, in Fort Wayne, you can experience a tree lighting hosted by another former Fort Wayne news broadcaster.
Steve Shine and his partner, Allen County Bar Association President Tom Hardin, will be lighting the Broadway Plaza Holiday display at 5:45 PM this Saturday. This is the third year for the event.
good for them!
February 16th, 2009 at 11:09 amGonna build it up to blow it up, D? I have to ask, why all the effort if your end game is the Rapture™?
February 16th, 2009 at 11:11 amoh… i didn’t read for enough…
Broadway Plaza is in front of Chappell’s Restaurant and the Shine and Hardin Law Offices
never mind…
but, you’d THINK they would specify LAW partner… not?
February 16th, 2009 at 11:12 amblotchdog,
You have no business posting here, after you plagiarized Friday from someone’s blog regarding an alternative to the stimulus.
You cannot think and debate on your own, what makes you feel compelled to post here?
katy,
Can someone parody a parody?
Parodyll the Failure has always been an obvious contradicting poster here. It’s always been fun to whack-a-Daryll (oh don’t he wish), but I’ve never taken anything he posts seriously. The funniest was when he accused us of destroying his beloved sign in his yard.
As for memory lane, when I first posted here, it was I-Right-I (aka IHL et al.), who I have a sneaky suspicion is JK THE BOLD
February 16th, 2009 at 11:14 amI’ll bet they do it more than once a year
February 16th, 2009 at 11:18 amYo! Darlyy, I’ve got a tiny deer costume for you to wear on your next trip home, preferably during hunting season!
February 16th, 2009 at 11:19 amRepubican Councilboy Says:
dbadass Says:
God told me you are going to lose
I beg to differ because he is on my side.
(R) Parodyll – Future Whitley Co. Councilboy
Umm, this truly could be Parodyll. If you notice, Parodyll did not capitalize ‘he‘ in respect to God. Unless Parodyll was talking about Huck-a-puck!
February 16th, 2009 at 11:19 amLemme guess, Darlyy’s gonna get a law degree at Liberty U, since Oral SexU doesn’t pump out lawyers.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:23 amI’ll bet they’d find that Rio whore stuff amusing. On another not just how many felonies was that mayorial candidate out there facing and how did that all work out
February 16th, 2009 at 11:33 amNo , I am looking towards obtaining a Masters Degree in Foreign Affairs/Relations from American University.
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February 16th, 2009 at 11:34 amShouldn’t a guy with such an important DoD job already have an advanced degree?
DRxJ Says: …
As for memory lane, when I first posted here, it was I-Right-I (aka IHL et al.), who I have a sneaky suspicion is JK THE BOLD
oh, i don’t think so… IRI was completely despicable…
February 16th, 2009 at 11:35 amand i’m hoping he is locked up somewhere in texas…
for a looong time.
Think about this; if bush had done absolutely NOTHING during his tenure, the world would be MUCH better off today.
So, bush accomplished LESS THAN NOTHING.
That’s GOTTA hurt, huh bush?
February 16th, 2009 at 11:37 amAfter perusing this thread from way back yesterday, I came across Keltoi at Night’s little ditty:
Interesting that Lincoln, at number one, is bookended by the worst and second worst in this poll.
Interesting enough, so is Clinton!
February 16th, 2009 at 11:37 amRepubican Councilboy says:
I nothing to be ashamed of. Many Hoosiers have the same belief system as me.
WTF?
February 16th, 2009 at 11:40 amParodyll can’t offer proper respect to God, but capitalizes Indiana resident nicknames?
Where did Gerald Ford place? He was a real numbskull too… (And good thing, the way he kept bashing his head on things)
February 16th, 2009 at 11:44 amJesus Hussein Christ Daryll, you can’t be seriously considering running for office?
When the electorate find out about the despicable things you have admitted to doing with a crucifix, you will be run out of town.
Even I was disgusted, and I am not a particularly religious person.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:46 amSay, D. When will you announce your plan to cure teh gay?
February 16th, 2009 at 11:47 amI’d like to be there for that one.
Keep posting Daryll the Dipshit. Great stuff you provide for the election vetting. I’m betting your rants are going to pull in LOTS of supporters!
/snark off
February 16th, 2009 at 11:52 amIt is about the Certs
February 16th, 2009 at 11:59 am—
Oh I thought it was about the retsins…
Certs don’t mean shit in the REAL WORLD of IT Daryll.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:59 amI have been in the business for 20 Years.
You are a liar and a dipshit.
DB,
February 16th, 2009 at 12:02 pm“retsins”
Yep, your right. I have a coworker with alot of those;-{
retsyns.
February 16th, 2009 at 12:08 pmruptured rectum says
If you run for office, you’ll get whumped so bad that your momma is going to feel it. LOL!
February 16th, 2009 at 12:19 pmSo, Daryll, your platform will be to “privatize”? Since we already know that you really, really, really want sexuality to be “publicized”, could you tell us exactly what local government functions should be privatized?
February 16th, 2009 at 12:27 pmWell I’m around 50 years old. And I don’t need any poll to tell me that in that 50 years Bush has been the most hated, feared and loathed president ever.
So Keltoi and the rest can blah blah blah about how the poll doesn’t show this or that, but I know that in 50 years, no President has ever been more hated, …ever done more damage and wrought more disaster and devastation, than George W Bush.
That’s his legacy with the 50 and under crowd.
I can’t speak for the rest.
February 16th, 2009 at 1:11 pmILLEGITIMATE UNELECTED FAILED RULER LOSER WHO RUINED AMERICA AND THE WORLD! I don’t count that worm as former president!
February 16th, 2009 at 1:25 pmWAYNEBRO says;
February 16th, 2009 at 1:41 pmI’m nearing 60 and I loathe, make that truely hate Bush 43.
The 1st American president that would have been hung at the Nuremberg Tribunals.
I beg to differ because he is on my side.
(R) Daryll – Future Whitley Co. Councilman
February 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pm““““““““““““““““““““““““““““
It appears to me that God is on President Obama and the democrats side, which is why they won and the obstructionist haters on the right had their asses handed to them!
There were six worst than W??? I don’t see it. He would rank at the very bottom of the list to me. W=Worst President Ever!
February 16th, 2009 at 2:00 pmOne thing’s for certain: he’s the worst president of the 21st century!
February 16th, 2009 at 2:00 pmDarryl, now you are calling someone “lowly”?
February 16th, 2009 at 2:51 pmDaryll, care to address the discrepancy between your earlier claim that during his (Bush, presumably) tenure, that we had the lowest unemployment rate and the link I posted to the Bureau of Labor Statistics that proved otherwise?
You kinda skipped over all that.
February 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pmWouldn’t that be… y’know… judging someone?
February 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pmI still don’t understand how Daryll reconciles his right-wing hatred of government spending with the fact that his livelihood depends on that government spending.
February 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pmIt looks like all this politikin’ has already gone to D’s head. This doesn’t bode well for his campaign staff… poor bastids.
February 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pmBut it’s paid for by, y’know… taxes.
Well, not in Bush’s case… it was paid for by borrowing from the Chinese, because Bush didn’t collect enough taxes to pay for it.. But you get the idea.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:07 pmDaryll said: It’s called Defense. Somebody has to protect you.
Snarky PLC says: Why, can’t God do that for free?
ralph the wonder llama Says: Wouldn’t that be… y’know… judging someone?
PLC says: I remember once declaring Daryll to be “Judge Mental”. It still fits.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:11 pmDaryll, one more thing confuses me… I posted three comments in a row addressed to you. Yet you only responded to the last one.
Why is that?
February 16th, 2009 at 3:12 pmDaryll would be the perfect Grover Nordquist candidate, someone who would make government so incompetent that it would drown in a bathtub.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:16 pmYou know, Daryll, when you’re running for public office, you’ll have to answer all questions, not just the ones you think you can handle.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:33 pmwatchdog Says:
What a stupid post from an ignorant troll. So your point, if I can abuse the term so badly, is that this is some huge victory for the right or some crushing blow to the left that Dumbya isnt seen YET as the absolute worst president of all time? You do get that you are a complete moron dont you?
February 16th, 2009 at 4:15 pmignorant beyond human comprehension. Listening to your Limborg master is NOT doing research its being brainwashed you monumentally ignorant cretin. It isnt what you dont know that is so bad Darylldimbulb. Its all the really stupid things you know that just arent so, to paraphrase an old saying. You are bone ignorant. You are stupid, and you are brainwashed. Blaming the media for the little reality they put out is precious. Wildly ignorant but precious. Try to evolve moronic one. Dont even AIM for higher brain function that is far beyond your grasp go for some small amount of human decency and honesty. MAYBE you can pull that off.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pmwatchdog Says:
Yeah bad people all over. Wasnt the BTK killer a leader in his church? Wasnt Jim Jones? Are you really so incredibly stupid you thought that made a point? HA political party of rational human beings is the joke you punks are just so unbelievably stupid
February 16th, 2009 at 4:24 pmWhoever did this ranking, it still tastes a lot like voting for Prom Queen. And the Shrub still lost.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:31 pmralpie;
I think ruptured rectum is going to follow the example of his fuhrer, Bushitler.
You know, prescreened audiences admitting only supporters, no disssenters, loyalty oaths, softball questions, the whole course.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:40 pm…. that these “historians” put FDR as number three shows you how little they know, and what they’re (liberal) political bent is. I’d imagine they’d put Hitler as one of the top two greatest “community organizers”, alongside of BHO. History will put Bush Jr. right alongside Churchill.
Actually, Wilson, Carter and Clinton, in that order, are the worst.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pmdbadass Says:
“…. no one called it a palor game when they wanted to disparage a fine man like Mr Carter.”
REPLY: Yeah…….. the guy that created the present-day Iran, and gave the world a nuclear north Korea. Great guy.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:10 pmThe GUY that created the Modern Day Iran Was KERMIT ROOSEVELT…CIA Station Chief in Tehran in 1953.
Read some History!
February 16th, 2009 at 5:22 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Daryll dont need no facts. He has an ideology. Whatever floats to the top of that sump he has instead of a brain, from his laundry list of delusional fantasies is TRUE because he SAYS so. Just making things up he wishes were true or repeating what Rush TOLD him to believe is all he does. He calls it research. The man is a living breathing colostomy bag
February 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pmwatchdog Says:
So you ignorant piece of garbage I see you posted this in another thread. You are a moron and a disgusting punk troll. The BTK killer was a leader in his church, do we need to discuss Jim Jones? There are bad guys all over. There are pleanty of ignorant morons too. YOu are a perfect example. Just go play with the other special children and let the adults talk you worthless cretin
February 16th, 2009 at 5:48 pmOops got turned around this is the same thread. You are still a moron watchpunk
February 16th, 2009 at 5:48 pmMiddleoftheroad Says: 300
No it isnt you brainwashed moron. Your delusions do not define reality. YOU are stupid and that is the ONLY thing your list shows. Go play in traffic you ignorant troll.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:50 pmMiddleoftheroad Says:
REPLY: Yeah…….. the guy that created the present-day Iran, and gave the world a nuclear north Korea. Great guy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Oh my. Even for a brainwashed braindead troll that is vintage stupidity right there. How stupid do you have to be to take even let this abject stupidity form in your head. Eishenhower overthrew the first democratic Islamic nation in the middle east in Mohamed Mossedegh in Iran. We replaced him with the brutal dictator Shah Palahvi. Amnesty International called him the wolds worst torturer. He tortured and murdered thousands. Carter would have had to invade Iran and kill tens of thousands to stop the revolution of 79 I am sure that would have made your little thingy hard ignorant bloodthirsty warmonger punk you are but in the civilized world that really wasnt the best option. My GOD you are ignorant. Where do you get these ignorant fantasies. Let me guess it sounded good when Rush said it right? You truly are a moron
February 16th, 2009 at 5:56 pmBadger Says:
The GUY that created the Modern Day Iran Was KERMIT ROOSEVELT…CIA Station Chief in Tehran in 1953.
Read some History!
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EXACTLY I doubt the moron will read anything. Much easier to let screechmonkeys do his thinking FOR him. What a putz
February 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pmRoadkill Says:
The opinions of qualified historians don’t fit my ideological bias, so I naturally assume THEY are biased.
I don;t care what methodology they used, where they studied or what their other positions are. They’re leftist punks because they looked at a president who created 22 million jobs and left a record surplus to his successor, and they didn’t rate him the worst in history. That’s all I need to know to make me feel better about myself and my support for a president who took those record surpluses and dumped them into a hole in the desert, leaving with a national debt twice the size of the one he took over and the economy sliding toward another Depression.
And yes, I am very smart. Just ask me. Smart enough to pretend I’m a “centrist” even though my every utterance proves my right-wing lunacy.
February 16th, 2009 at 6:10 pmRalphLlama shoots, he scores and Moronoftheroad goes down in flames. Better than he deserves
February 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pmoo, nice one Trajan75 IQ.
I was just thinking how awesome it must be to believe so strongly in “liberal bias”, whether it be in the media, academia, the weather… whatever.
If you come across information you don’t want to acknowledge, all ya hafta do is yell “liberal bias!” and yer home free. The facts just magically disappear.
February 16th, 2009 at 6:48 pmAw gee, T75IQ, I’m humbled. I’m blushing even.
February 16th, 2009 at 7:12 pmI miss the pretend prof’s zany approach
February 16th, 2009 at 7:59 pmOh just the absurd suggestion of being an educator. Still I suppose that is more plausible than a Latin King
February 16th, 2009 at 8:05 pmFascinating information on the pretend prof
I’m with ya, dbadass. I have this thing where, if I see paint flaking off a surface, I have to peel it. That was what dealing with the pretend prof was like. Big sheets of paint just lifting off the surface of his story, and all we had to do with apply the lightest pressure and away it comes – a whole layer or two in one go.
Emotionally satisfying in a weird way.
February 16th, 2009 at 9:22 pmSort of like peeling dead sunburned skin in an effort to get the largest sheet…
February 16th, 2009 at 9:26 pmWow…they found 6 worse than him…man those historians were mighty lenient.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:18 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
Future Whitley Co. Councilman
President-Elect Huckabee
Tooth Fairy
Santa Claus
Easter Bunny
Monster Under the Bed
Compassionate Conservative
So many fantasies, so little realities.
And let’s add trickle-down economics, voodoo economics, WMD, “shock and awe,” “mission accomplished,” “bring it on,” “heck of a job,” “No Child Left Behind,” making the US “safe” from terrorism. . .
February 17th, 2009 at 1:49 amRepublican Councilman Says:
Who cares about the survey (biased). Within ten years, people will praise President Bush for the management of Iraq, 9/11 and helping us create a generous economic surplus. It takes time to see the results.
(R) Daryll – Future Whitley Co. Councilman
Dear Citizens of Whitley County:
Now that Obama is President, FEMA will undoubtedly be rehabilitated in time to assist you in your upcoming civil disaster: Darryl has admitted right here on line that he plans to become your councilman.
Take a proactive stance: contact FEMA now.
Sincerely,
February 17th, 2009 at 1:59 amTelestai2
Republican Councilman Says:
No , I am looking towards obtaining a Masters Degree in Foreign Affairs/Relations from American University.
My compliments. Most rethugs just have “affairs” and “relations” that involve their nether regions. Most rethugs think that “foreign affairs” means junkets abroad with a carry-on full of Viagra.
But YOU are going to get a DEGREE in this!
February 17th, 2009 at 2:03 amI’m outraged.
What are these historians thinking. They put people below Bush in the different lists. If he didn’t make 43’s in many of the lists, you know the historians were biased.
History will prove them wrong. He was definitely number 43 at least in critical thinkers books.
February 18th, 2009 at 2:30 amTRUMAN: REALLY?!! good ‘ole fry ‘em harry, huh? the inventor of the cold war and miniature purveyor of the acheson doctrine(oop! i meant the marshall plan). i must strongly disagree with the selection of truman as one of our top presidents regardless of who he gave hell. in fact, he challenged the constitutional rights of every decent american by forcing loyalty oaths upon many amricans in direct violation of their bill of rights. more on this monkey later.
April 14th, 2009 at 5:16 pm