Gingrich’s obstructionism becomes role model for House GOP.
Gingrich’s obstructionism becomes role model for House GOP.
In 1993, former Speaker Newt Gingrich notoriously whipped the House GOP into opposing President Clinton’s major initiatives, ranging from the budget to health care reform. The New York Times reports that Gingrich has been advising the GOP leadership to follow the same path with President Obama’s agenda:
[Rep. Eric] Cantor said he had studied Mr. Gingrich’s years in power and had been in regular touch with him as he sought to help his party find the right tone and message. Indeed, one of Mr. Gingrich’s leading victories in unifying his caucus against Mr. Clinton’s package of tax increases to balance the budget in 1993 has been echoed in the events of the last few weeks. “I talk to Newt on a regular basis because he was in the position that we are in: in the extreme minority,” he said.
As ThinkProgress has noted, despite being out of office, Gingrich still has found a key role in current legislative debates. In September, he “was whipping against” the first TARP package “up until the last minute” and was said to have been largely responsible for the GOP voting against it.
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I am so happy for Eric. He is a dangerous man; much the same as Gingrich, Norquist, Kristol and others. The public is in favor of Obama’s stimulus package. Mr. Cantor’s obstructionism has set him up for a mediocre, rather than a meteoric, political career. Can you imagine this nimrod in a position of true power – scary as hell?
February 15th, 2009 at 10:41 amThis illustrates the fundamental flaw in conservative thinking; they are seemingly incapable of looking at a situation objectively, assessing its causes and adjusting their judgments.
Clinton’s tax hikes led not to the recession that Newtie predicted, but to a steadily growing economy and record surpluses, which were, of course, squandered by Bush.
Newt’s stunt to shut down the government was not a triumph for the GOP; it helped Clinton to an easy reeclection victory the following year.
The Newt-led impeachment of Clinton didn’t dent his popularity a bit, and it led to significant losses in Congress for the GOP, and Newt’s retirement in disgrace.
But I’m happy to see the generosity of republicans toward their otherwise disgraced former leaders.
By all means, listen to them! Follow where they lead!
February 15th, 2009 at 10:43 amUpdate: In 1993, speaking about Clinton’s budget, Gingrich warned: “I believe this will lead to a recession next year. …”
how about a counterpoint statement to that prediction – a brief comment on what REALLY happened – included in that update.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:53 amIn 1994 the voters were angry about the members of Congress having massive overdraft priviledges at their exclusive bank. Gingrich took advantage of that to paint Dems as out of touch with the citizenry. Indeed, at that time, he might have been right.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:59 amFor them to gain any inroads to returning to power, they will try to make that same case again.
Even my 16yo son tells me that Cantor is the most dangerous of the twitheads. F uckin chode.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:00 amThe Pied Piper of Hamelin.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:03 amHumpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall
February 15th, 2009 at 11:11 amLynn Lightfoot Says:
The Pied Piper of Hamelin.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:13 amMake that the “pie-eyed piper”: drunk upon his own inanities. But the part about the rats following works PERFECTLY. Kudos.
That perfectly describes the GOP and their insane obsession that tax cuts are the only thing that will bolster the economy. Their refusal to see tax cuts as have the same effect on the bottom line as spending bills… and their blindness to the costs of war, e.g. Iraq.
The way the GOP frame the discussion, selective blindness, faith over fact… I’m thinking GOP is more a religion not a political party.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:14 amConservatives, who trumpet the “values” meme are led by, and gather inspiration from, the worst examples of values possible.
Limbaugh: a drug addict and proven liar who takes illegal viagra on an “all male” fishing trip to one of the child-prostitution capitals of the world.
Gingrich: An admitted philandering liar who cheated on both his first two wives, and carried on an affair while investigating Clinton. Also sanctioned, after pleading guilty, by the House Ethics Committee to the tune of $300,000.00.
Glenn Beck: A dry drunk and drug addict. Beck is a mormon and a racist.
Conservatives are enamored with weak, angry sociopaths, yet seek to dictate how others should exist. Republicanism should be declared a disease whose side effects include delusion, rage at one’s shortcomings, and diminished sexual ability.
Or, it would be simpler to have it declared an insect…
February 15th, 2009 at 11:16 amGreat to see the Republicans EMBRACE the FAILED “Contract” concept . . . led America to CHANGE and allow CLINTON to give us such PROSPERITY that it took George Republican 8 YEARS and 2 wars to decimate . . . .
(Does this mean Eric can bang HIS secretary, TOO????)
February 15th, 2009 at 11:17 amI appreciate the optimism on this board that the republicans are marching themselves off the plank, but some of these guys have revealed themselves to be such narcissistic sociopaths with absolute contempt for truth and the American public. I’m genuinely nervous that we have a bunch of crazy people controlling the message and all they have to do is threaten the masculinity of anyone that would disagree with them. I don’t want to see a repeat of the last 16 years.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:17 amAs bad as newt and the repug/neocon noisemakers are – the bigger problem is the mainstream media that give these lying liars a platform, “catapulting the propaganda.”
We know that gingrich is a hypocritical liar and that the interests he represents go against the interests of the vast majority of Americans.
Our problem is not the folks that represent the criminal cabal behind the repug/neocons, its the media they use dishonestly manipulate public opinion and justify stolen elections.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:17 amHe [Newt] said House and Senate Republicans “forgot the core principle” of the party and embraced Congressional pork. “Some of the guys,” he said, have come down with a case of “incumbentitis.”
When Newt points a finger just remember that in his hand three fingers are pointing back.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:18 amPresident Obama ….
“said in Fort Myers last week, he will ultimately be judged by his results. If the economy isn’t turned around, he told the crowd, then “you’ll have a new president.”
Gingrich and the Republicans have placed their bets . If the Economy gets worse, and shows no sign of a turnaround, then they will all say “I told you so.”
Republicans have a vested interest in things getting Worse.
Obama and the Democrats ( as well as the Average American) have a vested interest in things getting Better.
Americans will KNOW if things are Better, and will Vote Accordingly. The Die is Cast.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:18 amWhat a great role model! I wanted in a role model someone who took off and refused to pay child support and alimony, who knows how to use chemotherapy and “I want a divorce” in the same sentence!
February 15th, 2009 at 11:18 amRepuBillys again voting to throw America and Americans under the Bus and into a full blown (this time) depression strictly to quench selfish greedy Motives..!?
( blame the Dems for their own RepuBilly obstructionism and worsening of Economy )
No surprise! The mode of operation for the past 8 years
because that is what the RepuBillys always do non-stop!
Thank God the Drunk Cowboy RepuBilly-in-Chief got (0) zero results or traction from his Inaugural 2005 train stop “initiative” to privatize (destroy) social “security” by putting it all in (disastrous) Wall Street!!
RepuBillys revealed their deranged true colors and being completely unable to govern or write Policy.
Obama has his 2009 Inaugural initiative signed, sealed and delivered in 3 weeks.
Now that is genuine Leadership all Americans can Live with!
February 15th, 2009 at 11:19 amWhat the hell is wrong with people who idolize these pigs?
Fewer people idolize these pigs than most realize – it is the platform they are given and the resulting echo-chamber this creates.
They are not constantly held up in the media because they are popular or idolized. It is just propaganda.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:20 amIf the Ameritaliban keeps this up, they’ll be nothing more than an afterthought after the 2010 midterms. What a delightful prospect!
February 15th, 2009 at 11:21 amObstructionism? This is the party that stole two Presidential elections. Democrats and Republicans should be fighting in the street right now.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:22 amThink about this: the best Eric Cantor can do is to “channel” Newt? This is the best he can come up with? I’m glad they are still trying the same stale old won’t work theories.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:23 amJim Wolf359
I hope you are right, but am afraid you underestimate the staying power of the political-economic interests they represent and the fact that there is no real “market” for ideas or in our media – a handful of companies control virtually all of it.
They have decided these assets are more useful as propaganda vehicles. What we prefer to watch, listen to, or support does not matter.
The issues we are blogging about today are deeply ingrained in the system.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:24 amJust like Newt-toadie, Cantor and the GOP will go down in flames.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:26 amHere’s a cool way to get a college grant, libs. You don’t need the government to help you out. First, marry one of your teachers. Second, have her pay your tuition. Third, give her a couple of kids in return. Fourth, dump her and the kids and leave it to the church to support them. That way you won’t to pay any of it back. See, a loan becomes a grant with a little manipulation.
Credit: Newt Gingrich
February 15th, 2009 at 11:27 amEric Cantor is the quintessence of hypocrisy – feigning and ozzing faux-christianity while submitting blasphemy is the height of hypocrisy. I did notice that he’s become a bit more restrained publicly and reticent. When he speaks he reminds me of a little girl in “rhumba pants”.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:28 amDidn’t dinosaurs go extinct?
February 15th, 2009 at 11:28 amlindsey grahm sure has trouble looking people in the eyes when speaking… unless he’s reading from a script on the table…
abc is maddening this morning… if i were maxine, chuck would have bruised shins from my pointy shoes… he cut her off rather rudely i thought.
anyway… …
February 15th, 2009 at 11:29 amPerryLogan: And 3/4 of americans KNOW what they did in 2000 and 2004 and will make sure that their numbers continue to tank in congress. We know who they are; we know what they did and just because no criminal charges have been filed doesn’t mean that the american people are very well informed about the criminal activities they each have in their closet of horrors.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:29 amNewt Gadget is the epitome of personal hypocrisy.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:30 amGingrich is more fitting as a thug out of Compton than a government leader in that photo.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:31 amcantor’s shooting for top lobbyist… not sure what for…
February 15th, 2009 at 11:31 ambesides himself.
How’s Eric Cantor going to convince some chubby WH intern to put the moves on the president? That’s his only hope, at this point.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:34 am26. rimhotep Says: Eric Cantor is the quintessence of hypocrisy – feigning and ozzing faux-christianity while submitting blasphemy is the height of hypocrisy.
Cantor is jewish.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:35 ambarfly Says:
How’s Eric Cantor going to convince some chubby WH intern to put the moves on the president? That’s his only hope, at this point.
Drill, baby, drill! Drill, baby, drill!
February 15th, 2009 at 11:36 amThe problem is that they have been using the same line of attack all along but people aren’t buying it any more. So, sure thing Newt, keep kicking that dead horse. Soon you guys will be such an irrelevant minority that you’ll need the Fairness Doctrine back to force reporters to pay attention to your tantrums.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:37 amGreat strategy.
For 1993.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:38 amThe GOP leadership and Newt continue to miss 2 key points that are right in front of their noses that differentiate 2009 from 1993:
1. We are in the midst of the worst GLOBAL economic crisis since the Great Depression. Is not just a recessionary downturn as in the early 1990s.
2. The public support for Obama and a stimulus bill are high to very high.
Tactical political patterns can be used as context for new strategies. But replicated a previous tactic within a completely context does not make for a solid strategy.
Just look at the current polling numbers for the congressional GOP. They are not good AT ALL.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:39 amNewt’s a legend in his own mind. He hasn’t been elected to anything in years and the only people listening to him are dead-end Republicans. I know he imagines himself as President in 2012 but, hey Newt! Ain’t gonna happen!
February 15th, 2009 at 11:40 amIn 1993, Republican’s success at the polls relied on Something that they no longer possess.
The Absence of a TWELVE Year Record of calling the shots in Congress.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:42 amGingrich wouldn’t last five minutes in Compton.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:43 amPresident Isaac Newton Gingrich. You know it!
February 15th, 2009 at 11:45 amHumpty Dumpty cannot be put together again
February 15th, 2009 at 11:50 amThe Republicans now are grooming their Cantor to lead them.
If Cantor sees Newt as his model…good luck for such party,and such leadership.
Did Cantor know why Newt left the Congress..?
It was not like Newt wanted to, but he had to..!
Newt is not different than Rush Limbaugh in his style, thinking, and attacks on his opponents , except one chose to use the radio waves and his microphone,and the other one chose to be a representative in Washington.
They both survive on empty rhetoric that has no real basis spiced with hate,hypocrisy,and toxin venom.
The era of Newt successes in the early Nineties cannot be repeated,because people are waking up to such cheap rhetorical of governing approach,that thinks only of ‘my own party first’ while ignoring peoples business and affairs,and yet sinking the government in more and more debt to please the few at the top,using God and religion sold to the masses to achieve the GOP party’s goals.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:52 amRepuBillys are recalling old playbooks that won them back the majority in Congress in 1994, 2 years after the Clinton Presidency started.
They reLIED on Lush to energize the ditto (clones) into swallowing oceans of deranged non-qualified brain fudge.
PIG-Baugh has not served (1) one day and has (0) zero education or actual experience in Politics, Govt, Economics, Civics, Medical or Military services or operations.
Why do ditto-Clones worship no-talent, no-experience crusty fat criminal evil Pigs like LimpBong, Cheney and Rove?
Simply because they are Rich!
RepuBillys are brainwashed to believe that anyone who is wealthy must be smart and good - Get Real!
February 15th, 2009 at 11:56 amDemocrats have been given the keys, and the public is willing to get out and push (at least for a little ways), but the ditch is steep with many unseen obstacles, and republicans are sitting on the hood, hoping we flatten a tire. And you can bet that after we get out of the ditch, they’ll be demanding to drive again. I suggest we take’em on a snipe hunt (reimposing the Fairness Doctrine), and then leave their worthless asses by the side of the road, after we get free of Bush Gulch.
February 15th, 2009 at 11:58 ami could be mistaken, but earlier in george’s show, i think it was cokie who remarked that comedians were not making jokes about obama himself – because he’s so popular – but plenty about congress (mostly as it conserns this “stimulus”)…
every joke featured in ‘the funnies’ was about president obama…
cokie’s wrong again.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:00 pmWow. The House GOP really is out to lunch if they are taking advice from Newt Gingrich, orchestrator of the government shutdown which cost the GOP plenty in the ‘98 midterms and Gingrich his speakership.
John Boehner was around then, too.
Keep up the good work, Newt!
February 15th, 2009 at 12:05 pmCokie Roberts is a liar. Period.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:05 pmI don’t know what’s sadder. A group of congressional idiots
February 15th, 2009 at 12:05 pm(rethugs) getting paid 200 grand a year and having to suck on Newt the Nitwits privates. Or that Gingrich thinks he matters to anyone but the 20%ers.
Note to rethugs, you may be going the way of the Know Nothing Party, and I won’t miss one of you slime buckets.
take care
tony and lido
Gingrich’s obstructionism becomes role model for House GOP.»
February 15th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
And Frank Rich refers to TP in his column today.
here it is..
“As the liberal blog ThinkProgress reported, G.O.P. members of Congress wildly outnumbered Democrats as guests on all cable news networks, not just Fox News, in the three days of intense debate about the House stimulus bill.”
We’re Famous :)
February 15th, 2009 at 12:12 pmThe president’s job approval percentage now ranges from the mid 60s (Gallup, Pew) to mid 70s (CNN) — not bad for a guy who won the presidency with 52.9 percent of the vote.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pmOh Noes! Frank Rich has burst the liberal media myth!!
February 15th, 2009 at 12:17 pmralph! i confess – i hadn’t read any comments when (and since) i posted my request at #3… you covered it handily at #2!
didn’t mean to slight it.
i keep trying to read but now the victory garden is distracting me…
February 15th, 2009 at 12:19 pmtime to start thinking about that finally!
And let’s all look at how successful Newt and his cronies were. He has a lot to do with where they are today.
Oh well, I don’t think that the Republican’t party is capable of dealing with reality or learning from their mistakes. This fatal flaw will make them extinct in the not to distant future.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:28 pmGuido the Loving OBGYN Says:
Newt, Jeb, Rush- All fatties. What the hell is wrong with people who idolize these pigs?
They have very little ego strength and they need a “father figure” to tell them what to think and how to act. Read John Dean’s “Conservatives without Conscience”, he describes these people to a T.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:31 pmThis is the same b.s. that Republicans were pushing back in 1933 when they condemned FDR’s New Deal. Their needle is stuck in an old groove on a worn-out vinyl record. Their time is over.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:33 pm[Rep. Eric] Cantor said he had studied Mr. Gingrich’s years in power and had been in regular touch with him as he sought to help his party find the right tone and message.
For the retugs the right tone is:::: Vote NO on every proposal.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:34 pmI feel sorry for the lame-ducks in Congress.
katy Says:
lindsey grahm sure has trouble looking people in the eyes when speaking… unless he’s reading from a script on the table…
abc is maddening this morning… if i were maxine, chuck would have bruised shins from my pointy shoes… he cut her off rather rudely i thought.
katy – why are you watching these shows? You are only rewarding them for bad behavior. The only way that “we the people” are going to be able to turn the republican’t owned media around is by giving them the finger and turning them off. You can get all the news you want on the Internet. The Internet is the one place where they do not have control over the message, and this is a good thing.
February 15th, 2009 at 12:39 pmCongrats to half the Repubs who joined sane America by supporting the President and joining the Recovery (from Bush) programs.
56% election victory and 78% current approval = 52% gain in Repub support for Obama
There still are those stubborn rooted-in-”FOX”hole militant NeoCONS who refuse to understand that the Civil war is over!
First take responsibility for supporting and “handing all the weapons” to the Bush “Shock n’ Awe” assaults and carnage on the Constitution, generational-Theft in the $Trillions, and directly on the American middle class and poor for 8 years.
Even GOP congressman are now favor investigating Bush War Crimes:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/13/walter-jones-gop-congress_n_166761.html
February 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pmThe GOP are positioning themselves as the Speed Bump on the road to progress. Good luck with that guys, and please stick with it for many years to come… please.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:14 pmThe GOP is a one trick party. They selectively choose, from history what they want. He looks at what Newt did, but not the situation Newt was faced with compared to today. The mess we have today was created by the GOP and their single-minded ways. If they would go back in history they would see that their party did much the same in theh 1920s and with similar results. They are not the party to lead but maybe the party to challenge forever. The GOP has proven over and over and over to be poor leaders.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:14 pmIf Newt is the best the GOP has to offer, their status as minority, regional party is going to solidify for a long time.
Go for it, GOP. The MSM has your back, like always.
February 15th, 2009 at 1:17 pmSO, Newt is the new Dick, and Cantor is his Dubbie-style ventriloquist dummy?
Really original guys. How’d you ever come up with that?
February 15th, 2009 at 1:31 pmUh oh, another Gingrich thread. Do I need to wash this lovely shade of green paint off my hands and head back into the kitchen to bake another batch of brownies?
I’m gettin’ old… don’t know if I can do another party… still recovering from yesterday.
*shhh* not so loud.
PEACE
February 15th, 2009 at 1:37 pmAm I the only one who feels that in voting as a bloc against the stimulus package the Republicans are in essence voting against America? After all, for them to do well politically, Americans must do poorly economically. Otherwise, the Republicans face disaster in 2010. Who is the genius strategist over there who came up with that plan?
February 15th, 2009 at 1:48 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says: …
katy – why are you watching these shows?
i dunno… because i still feel lazy that time of sunday morning, i guess…
i had my laptop full of internets with me… don’t worry…
i wanted to see how maxine would do also… she’s better on radio…
February 15th, 2009 at 1:49 pmand i really like maxine waters…
After eight long years of goose-stepping along with the Bush gangsters, Republicans are finding that obstruction of Obama and the Democrats is the only activity that they are capable of… The GOP is in a state of deep denial. They cannot face up to the fact that their policies have come close to wrecking the American economy… Heck of a trashing, Republicans. If they insist on following Rush L. and the Newster, they will go the way of the Whig Party back in the 1840s…
February 15th, 2009 at 1:58 pmdid cantor also “study” newtie’s rather pathetic demise? Mr. cantor, that’s why you’re in the minority. you assclowns never learn from your mistakes.
February 15th, 2009 at 2:14 pmThe Republicans have jobs for two more years. That’s more than they can say for the people they “represent”.
They should enjoy those two years.
http://www.YourPartyIsOver.com
February 15th, 2009 at 2:18 pmI thinhk they want to detonate any possiblility to get back in government ever again…
February 15th, 2009 at 2:38 pmthey had no problem in destroying the USA when they were in government, why would they have any problem in continuing doing so after loosing the election?
Spencer’s Mom, at least we had a good time yesterday, right? I don’t know if any of us are up to another party today! How’s the dining room coming along?
February 15th, 2009 at 3:14 pmBilbo, Katy watches the Sunday morning shows “so we don’t have to.” ;-) Of course, she is now suffering from bleeding from the eyes – Katy, please, you don’t have to do this to yourself for us!
February 15th, 2009 at 3:18 pmdon’t worry ’bout me… but thanks for the concern…
i do refuse to watch meet the putz…
except that time recently when barack was on…
no, i indulge in my sunday stay-in-bed-late show: cbs Sunday Morning… get up about half way to get some coffee, move to the living room and just keep it on for schieffer…
then turn it to abc for kicks… which i used to just listen to, until i got that laptop…
ah well…
February 15th, 2009 at 4:10 pm,
Maybe Contor tan take advice from Newt as to why America should have been attacked again…
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5lmje_newt-gingrich-bush-should-allow-rem_news
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February 15th, 2009 at 4:21 pmKaty, considering that we have 3 tv machines in our small house, none of them is in the bedroom – I envy you. Of course, if we had one in the bedroom, the gods know that we would probably never get out of bed! :(
February 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pmMy concern with the president’s $790 billion stimulus package is the effect on the federal debt. Our children will end up footing the bill.
Forecasters expect the 2009 deficit to hit $1.6 trillion including new stimulus and bank-bailout spending. That’s about three times last year’s shortfall.
The national debt — the sum of all annual budget deficits — stands at $10.7 trillion. Or about $36,000 for every man, woman and child in the U.S.
The 4th-largest federal expenditure, after Medicare-Medicaid, Social Security and defense, is interest payments on the national debt. This year it will be nearly $500.
Our future: higher taxes, reduced government services, & more indebtedness to China, Saudi Arabia and other foreign creditors.
What do those payments look like, just for the stimulus bill and TARP? $183.3 million dollars a DAY in new tax revenue required, or $5.5 billion a MONTH…equating to a yearly repayment bill of $66 billion a year for 87.6 years to pay off these two alone (assuming %4 percent interest, which the Treasury will eventually have to offer to anyone dumb enough to lend us money). Total loan payoff, including interest, is $5.785 Trillion including interest.
It’s time the haters on both sides give it up and start finding solutions. There is not enough wealth in this country to fix everything. It has been drained by those intrusted to govern. Let’s face it, we need leaders in congress, not politicians.
February 15th, 2009 at 5:55 pmEric Cantor’s “About” webpage is here:
http://cantor.house.gov/about.htm
and contains as itslast two paragraphs:
“Eric Cantor is a lifelong resident of the Richmond area. He got his start in politics as a student at George Washington University by interning for Congressman Tom Bliley in Bliley’s Washington office and serving as a driver on Bliley’s first re-election campaign. Eric received his law degree from The College of William and Mary and his Master’s degree from Columbia University in New York.
While in New York, Eric met his wife Diana and brought her back to Virginia. The Cantors have three children, Evan, who is currently attending college, and Jenna and Michael, both of whom attend Henrico County Public Schools.”
I think those two paragraphs subtly make Cantor seem slimy, particularly this sentence, “While in New York, Eric met his wife Diana and brought her back to Virginia.”
Kind of creepy, too.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:07 pmI’ll bet Mrs. Cantor, the kids, and his parents are really proud that Eric has ascended to the status of being the ideological sock-puppet of a washed-up and discredited political hack whose 15 minutes elapsed 15 years ago.
Quite an accomplishment, Mr. Cantor. You epitomize the ruggedly independent character of your party.
February 15th, 2009 at 6:12 pm“My concern with the president’s $790 billion stimulus package is the effect on the federal debt. Our children will end up footing the bill…”
Can I assume that you were also as concerned with the Bush administration’s blowing of the surplus he inherited; somehow losing, actually losing, billions of dollars between 1/20/2001 and 9/10/2001 (Cheney announced it on 9/10/2001, but it got kinda lost after 9/11); starting a trillion-dollar illegal war of choice that was supposed to ‘pay for itself’, etc.; losing (again, actually LOSING) millions of dollars in Iraq–not just overpaying for shoddy contracting services for our troops, but losing a literal truckload of money; and, finally, completely trashing our economy and the lives of people here and around the globe? ‘Cause our children and grandchildren, etc., were already going to be footing the bill for those fiascos.
“Our future: higher taxes, reduced government services, & more indebtedness to China, Saudi Arabia and other foreign creditors.”
We’re already there.
“There is not enough wealth in this country to fix everything.”
I’m not so sure about that, but I bet there’s a lot of this country’s ‘wealth’ safely hiding in offshore bank accounts. And it’s not like the really wealthy are jumping in to try to fix everything anyway.
I may be wrong, and if so I apologize in advance, but I think you just don’t want any spending bill, despite the fact that the majority of economists agree that it is not only necessary, but should be BIGGER than what has passed.
While I freely admit that I am not proud of many of the Democrats in the Senate and in the House, most of them are at least making an attempt to lead. The Republicans, nearly to a man, are simply saying ‘no’.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:38 pmiamwil Says:
I think those two paragraphs subtly make Cantor seem slimy, particularly this sentence, “While in New York, Eric met his wife Diana and brought her back to Virginia.”
Kind of creepy, too.
I agree. That does sound kinda creepy. Like she was something he found in the wild and took in. Then had sex with it.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:39 pmSorry, I messed up my italics. And Wayne just reminded me that it was Rumsfeld, not Cheney, who announced on 9/10/01 that the Pentagon couldn’t account for over two trillion dollars.
I apologize for these errors.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:41 pmApology accepted. Moving forward, Nation…
(You know I love you, Honey. :) )
February 15th, 2009 at 9:42 pmOK – so we have the playbook for the season.
Repubs know they can’t win, so they obstruct in public like they did in the 90’s. Not to mention that they secretly follow Limbaugh and hope that the nation fails.
February 15th, 2009 at 10:04 pmI do not understand why anybody is concerned with what conservatives/republicans think or do in the near future. They have no power to stop anything that the democrats in the house or senate want to do. The door to power has been opened
February 15th, 2009 at 10:52 pmto them with nothing to impede thier actions. Now we will see what this brings for our culture and economy.
Some in the media deceptively portray President Obama as being Partisan! For example, this morning, Joe Scarborough said on his show that if Presdent Obama does wants to be a partisan presidency, that that is his perogative! That is an outright, deceptive lie and deceptive seed to plant into the minds of the American people. Joe Scarborouh knows very well that President Obama has reached out to the GOP and even in the face of adversary, still plans to reach out, this President Obama has said time and time again. For Joe Scarborough and others in the media to use their position to plant lies and deceptions is a betrayl of the public trust.
It is true that President Obama states that he won the election, but his actions portray that he is was and is also willing to compromise with the GOP, enough so, to incorporate GOP ideas into the stimulus plan in an effort to work in a bipartisian fashion. This compromise did not satisfy the GOP. They want all or nothing, even in the face of a crisis! It is the GOP who do not want to be bi-partisan and had rejected his plan even before they met with President Obama to discuss the plan. The word from GOP leaders had gone out to REJECT!!!!!!
On November 2008, the people voted or change — that they want to try the Democratic way — President Obama’s way, not the GOP way! On this fact the GOP have a duty to compromise and work with the Democrats and the ideas that won the day. We have come to expect them to be parisan.
However, the media’s role is to be unbiased and fair (the third wheel of democracy), and any and all media who continue to distort President Obama’s words and actions in an attempt to put accross their agenda and who show they are unable to be unbiased should not be on the air.
February 16th, 2009 at 7:47 amPresident Obama and his party has every right to be partisan. The 2 major economic approaches for producing and distributing wealth in the world are laid out along party lines. Being partisan about such things brings clarity in what each party stands for and allows a stark contrast of thier ideas. Instead of a cry for bipartisanship as some have made,we should stand up and demand that our leaders stand up and act on thier beliefs. That way will make for the most effecient method to determine what works best;sociolistic collectivism or free market individualism
February 16th, 2009 at 11:49 pmIt is truly a blessing to have a person as smart as Gingrich in the USA. He is probably one of the best hopes to get us out of this downward spiral over the next four years. Along with Carl Rove and advise from Mr. Cheney, this nation could be saved yet.
February 17th, 2009 at 2:16 pmDeuce Coupe, not even a good try. You are just more dead weight that will have to be dragged along while the left works on fixing the destruction of the right wing over the past several years.
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