In the Washington Post yesterday, conservative columnist George Will chastised Energy Secretary Stephen Chu for “doomsaying” about global warming, arguing that concerns about climate change are just “eco-pessimism.” As evidence to support his point, Will claimed that “according to the University of Illinois’ Arctic Climate Research Center, global sea ice levels now equal those of 1979.” But, as TPMmuckraker notes, the Arctic Climate Research Center (ACRC) quickly disputed Will’s claim:
We do not know where George Will is getting his information, but our data shows that on February 15, 1979, global sea ice area was 16.79 million sq. km and on February 15, 2009, global sea ice area was 15.45 million sq. km. Therefore, global sea ice levels are 1.34 million sq. km less in February 2009 than in February 1979. This decrease in sea ice area is roughly equal to the area of Texas, California, and Oklahoma combined.
In its statement, the ACRC added that “It is disturbing that the Washington Post would publish such information without first checking the facts.” Washington Post editorial page editor Fred Hiatt told TPMmuckraker that “he’d try to respond to questions about the editing process later today.” They have yet to hear back from him.
Perhaps one of these days it will be explained why, every time I encounter a global warming denier, he or she turns out to also have far-right-wing political views.
Every frickin’ time.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:42 pmBut George Will is a columnist and not a reporter. People like him and Billy Crystal don’t have to worry about trivial things such as facts and accuracy.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:43 pm“eco-pessimism”
Everyone wish real hard, be OPTIMISTIC, and if we truly truly believe in unicorns and pixie dust — the soil will not dry and blow away, drinking water will never become scarce, and only African babies will starve — not ours.
It’s George Will’s world!
February 16th, 2009 at 3:43 pmIn its statement, the ACRC added that “It is disturbing that the Washington Post would publish such information without first checking the facts.
– - Will’s column is an op-ed and therefore not subject to truthiness. He double-checked that point with Billy Kristol before publishing.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pmGeorge Will is such a friggin doofus. I can’t wait til that bookworm shuffles off into the sunset…
February 16th, 2009 at 3:45 pmWill once blew off global warming on one of the Sunday talk shows with the undergrad community college Philosophy 102 “subjectivist fallacy,” i.e., that because there was no identifiably “objective” ideal long-term climate, then no intervention action was warranted.
What’s “ideal,” though, is a climate that can sustain current and projected human populations. End of “controversy.”
How this cat gets taken seriously at all is beyond me.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:45 pmThe basis for reichwingnut blow hard philosophy is dishonesty. Think about it: If they told you the truth about what they are trying to accomplish and what they do, you would dismiss them as crazy as batsh@t. They must lie. They cannot tell the truth and they cannot face reality. That is why it seems that reality has a liberal twist to them. That is why educated people seem liberal to them. That is why well informed people seem liberal to them. And most of all, that is why science and math seem liberal to them. They cannot use any of these to back up their insanity.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:46 pmIn its statement, the ACRC added that “It is disturbing that the Washington Post would publish such information without first checking the facts.”
It may be disturbing, but it’s hardly surprising. If the NYT couldn’t bother to fact check Kristol, why should the Post be any better? “He’s a columnist. He’s just giving his opinion, so we don’t need to check his facts.”
February 16th, 2009 at 3:48 pmPoor guy. Everything he ever said about politics turned out to be wrong, and now he has to go out and find new things to be wrong about.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:48 pmZooey Says:
“eco-pessimism”
That and “doomsaying” are two example f another extremely annoying thing about Will. He is soooo concerned about portraying some really really smart guy he ends up using lame sounding archaic terms or making up new word-combos to try and project how truly genius he is. His whole tone is condescending and stupid.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pmThe worst part of this is George Will’s smart enough to know better.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:50 pmWait, did Will actually say “subjectivist fallacy,” Bobby? If he didn’t, I bet he wished he had.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:50 pmBobbyG Says:
Will once blew off global warming on one of the Sunday talk shows with the undergrad community college Philosophy 102 “subjectivist fallacy,”
AGAIN! Will ALWAYS tries to sound sooo academic and bookish in his pieces (of garbage) and it is just lame. Especially since he isn’t all that smart and lies through his veneers.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:51 pmThe industries that are financing the “global warming denial campaign” share the same unethical “profit at all costs” philosophy that has dominated the decision-making process of the tobacco industry as it repeatedly denied any health-related consequences of using their products.
Economic impact cannot be the sole factor in every regulatory policy of the U.S. government. Those that do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them. We can no longer afford to be so short-sighted when the long-term consequences of our inaction are so great.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:52 pmWAYNEBRO Says:
The worst part of this is George Will’s smart enough to know better.
Let’s not get carried away here…he “projects” academic authority, but I don’t think he is actually all that bright.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:52 pm“Let’s not get carried away here…he “projects” academic authority…”
That’s why Tucker Carlson always wore that silly bow tie as well.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:53 pmConservative optimisim..Katrina was a mere rainstorm. Black is white, up is down and so forth. Republican fascists always have to oppose something no matter the science or facts..it’s in their DNA. Real science is ‘intellegent design’..it’s easier to understand and facts and theories don’t get in the way.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:54 pmNot surprising. When the MSM got bought out, is it surprising their ‘opinions’ are bought and paid for?
February 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pm“eco-pessimism”
– - Not to be confused with the GOP’s “econ-pessimism.”
February 16th, 2009 at 3:57 pmMore conservative idiocy from George Will. How desperate is he for some sort of argument that he has to go out and blatantly misrepresent the facts like that.
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February 16th, 2009 at 3:58 pmOur pundits have filled the smart rocket with ignorant fuel
February 16th, 2009 at 4:00 pm“eco-pessimism” or “ego-journalism” ?
February 16th, 2009 at 4:00 pmFox News Alert Says:
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But George Will is a columnist and not a reporter. People like him and Billy Crystal don’t have to worry about trivial things such as facts and accuracy.
February 16th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Not to nitpick , but it’s “Kristol” ; you named the actor , who should not be confused with that effiminate , grinning NeoCon moron ………
February 16th, 2009 at 4:00 pmBobbyG Says:
That’s why Tucker Carlson always wore that silly bow tie as well.
Nothing makes me smile like when Jon Stewart went on Crossfire and totally mashed on Tucker and his idiotic bow-tie.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:03 pmIn the Washington Post yesterday, conservative columnist George Will chastised Energy Secretary Stephen Chu for “doomsaying” about global warming, arguing that concerns about climate change are just “eco-pessimism.”
Is Will attempting to coerce others into viewing everything with the same conservative rose-colored bifocals he sports ?
What a dishonest d-bag ………..
February 16th, 2009 at 4:03 pmIsn’t Will universally acclaimed/viewed as the brightest in the conservative world ?
Man , if he’s their “brightest” , I’d certainly hate to be the one who is the opposite of him in that camp…………
February 16th, 2009 at 4:07 pmTerror Alerts!
Mushroom clouds!
Aluminium tubes!
Yellowcake!
Flying anthrax laden sheep!
Martial Law if no bank bailout!!
The (R) doomsayers dont think global warming is scary enough…
February 16th, 2009 at 4:07 pmWill’s claim of expertise in the climate change issue suggests he is engaging in “eco-narcissism”.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:10 pmHe only missed it by the size of Texas, California, and Oklahoma combined. Pretty close for wills standards……..they call it hand grenade range.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:11 pmMCMetal Says:
Isn’t Will universally acclaimed/viewed as the brightest in the conservative world ?
And I’m the world’s tallest leprechaun…
February 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pmMostly it seems Will knows how to type what he is told to type.
“Research? We don’t need no stinking research.”
February 16th, 2009 at 4:18 pmThe Washington Post op/ed page is among the worst at allowing its “opinion” writers to simply make up whatever “facts” they want. I understand the difference between a newspaper’s reporting and their opinion pages. However, I still think the Washington Post owes it to their readers to ensure that whatever facts are presented anywhere within the paper are reasonably known to be true. Allowing opinion writers to simply lie does a great injustice to all the readers of the paper.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:28 pmGotta keep calling them on stuff like this. THANKS!
Republicans share traits that make them unable to function within or to govern within a democracy. Republicans come in all forms, but for all of them the most human parts of their social development have been arrested or atrophied away. Take pity on them and teach them, but for god sake get them out of the Washington loop before they destroy everything.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:30 pmAnyone remember when “O.Bigfoot” would pop in on any and every climate thread and start rattling off garbage he picked up from a winger page somewhere?
Seems there used to be a brand of troll that focused pretty narrowly on enviro issues/
Where are they now?
Hey Al Gore haters – where y’all at now?
February 16th, 2009 at 4:31 pmWhen big bucks met the press, facts went down the toidy. Opinion (Op/Ed) became the trash bin where the owners could have their paid toadies write anything they liked. They being the owners.
I really would like to see the libel laws enforced in this country. Opinion columns are not free speech in that you can lie.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:36 pmJust like the economy. Eco-pessimism is ” all in our heads” ” We’re a planet full of whiners”
February 16th, 2009 at 4:36 pmtombaker, I think the recession has hit the troll industry pretty hard. The RNC seems like they’re out of funds for the astroturf troll operation, and it’s only the truly committed trolls who still make it their business to try to “catapult the propaganda”.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:38 pmIt pleases me to no end to see “the right” in such dire straits.
Sure miss the entertainment sometimes though.
I suppose things will pick up a little as we head toward the midterms.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:40 pmIt may be that op ed pieces are subjected to the same truthiness test as straight reporting (if even that’s true), but the average joe doesn’t know the differnece and thinks that these opinion-writers are providing factual information. Seems like more of the right wing willful ignorance to me.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:41 pmsorry – should be that they are not subjected to the same truthiness test. lousy editing.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:42 pmMaking up facts — it’s the Republican/conservative way.
All the more appalling when folks like ABC news put idjits like this on for “balance” against experts in their fields, like Paul Krugman on economics as ABC recently did.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:43 pmDave, you really need to temper your appreciation of Colbert if you think truthiness is anything other than a word he made up.
There is no yardstick in our media for honesty anymore. The repugs sort of cashiered that idea.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:44 pmThe fact is that Will, the most exhaustive and hot-air filled pundit of them all, and the rest of the Washington punditocracy are in a time warp; they haven’t left the 80’s and the supposed glorious years of the greatest leader in the history of the universe, Ronald Raygun. They are mired in a fictional account of that time period, where their class reigned supreme, and words were taken as scripture.
They still carry themselves as if average Americans take them seriously. They are so wrapped in a alternate reality they have no clue how ridiculous they sound. Does Will realize he has aligned himself with a party and philosophy that takes it’s marching orders from a drug addicted talk radio show host?
It didn’t happen overnight that they became so firmly entrenched in our society, and we won’t be able to get rid of them overnight, but it will happen. The plague of Reaganomics and right wing regression shall pass.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:46 pmin AN alternate reality that is…
February 16th, 2009 at 4:48 pmI once worked with a sports editor who got fired from a daily newspaper for cropping the name of the rival newspaper out of a photo on a ballplayer’s jersey from a baseball tournament that rival paper sponsored.
It’s nice to know that a lack of competence/ethics goes a long ways for a editor at one of the nation’s leading newspapers. A good editor isn’t a shill for their writers.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:51 pmRaise the JK poo shields!
February 16th, 2009 at 4:54 pm**psst**, BoldfaceLiar, it was George Will who first claimed the data from ACRC as support for his position. The ACRC indicated that George Will, um, well, ah, printed a BoldfaceLie about their data.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:58 pmHi John Kerry. Shall we have brocolli or kale? You can have the tuna steak. I’ll have the sword since, you didn’t take me up on that last time. I am assuming you don’t like swordfish. Do you mind bringing something to drink? Thanks. I look forward to seeing you real soon. We have so much to talk about.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:58 pmAre you kidding? Will holds a BA from Trinity, a BA and a MA from Oxford and an MA and a PHD from Princeton. He taught Philosophy at Michigan University’s James Madison College, the University of Toronto and was a professor at Harvard.
Not to mention he is a Pulitzer Prize winning author.
Will is accomplished, highly educated and highly intelligent, which is why I said he’s smart enough to know better.
February 16th, 2009 at 4:59 pmWaynebro, somebody had to pay for all those letters.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:00 pmAnd I bet it wasn’t George.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pmDoesn’t Will pay attention to current events ? Surely he must
have read about all the countries that want to explore
the arctic for resources now that it’s opening up.
I would think he would have at least heard about the polar bears being threatened by the reduction of sea ice.
He must not read the paper.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:02 pm“Old farts smell dusty. And wish they didn’t.” Master Goo.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:03 pmWhy don’t we have a thread about how Eric Cantor is pretending he’s “rallying” the Gopers and comparing himself to Winston Churchill?
February 16th, 2009 at 5:10 pmGee, benny boy, it just might be because the Industrial Revolution and it’s aftermath have forestalled the next Ice Age?
Either that or you fart too much.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:11 pmIf you Think Progressives were partly responsible for this, thank you from the bottom of my heart for booting Hal Turner’s fat ass off Blogspot and in record time. I cannot possibly take all the credit. The guys and gals who swarmed his blog and reported him to blogger deserve all the thanks so… Thanks!
February 16th, 2009 at 5:13 pmI’m surprised that it wasn’t also pointed out that much of the ice is “1st year ice” because the older stuff has all been melted. So not only is it smaller in area, but it’s thinner and so much smaller in mass. That means even though a lot of the area has grown back over the winter, it can still melt very quickly because there’s not as much mass there. Another point too subtle for the righties.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:14 pmMr. Will, one question for you Mr. Doctor of Everything:
If the data you quoted (and I’m assuming you believe it because you wrote it) is correct, why then are the polar ice caps and glaciers MELTING?
February 16th, 2009 at 5:15 pmYou’re trying to tell me that a global warming denier not only making up facts but claiming a study says just the opposite of what it really says ?
Shocked, I tell you! Just Shocked !
BTW – Water is wet.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:16 pmIf anyone is watching Hardball, Chris Matthews just crucified a GOP stooge on the stimulus.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:16 pmWill never will correct anything.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:17 pmbenmaller Says:
Oh my GOD. Look bubba. You were always stupid. I mean galactic level stupid. Now it seems the stupid is overwhelming your entire being. It is time for you to get some help of the stupid will consume you entirely. I wouldnt have thought it possible for you to get even stupider but you seem to be pulling it off. You are pretty far gone with the Republicancer of stupid eating what was always a substandard brain. Get help fast. You have gone from just sad and pathetic to alarmingly, round the bend, blasted off of even Planet Wingnut stupid. Seriously, get help
February 16th, 2009 at 5:18 pmbenmaller Says:
But George, if Global Warming doesn’t exist why aren’t we still buried under glaciers from the last ice age? Huh George? Answer that all you deniers!
Did God have a bad case of dandruff or did he pee on the Earth when it was cold?
February 16th, 2009 at 5:20 pmI’m always stunned when right-wingers start portraying themselves as “up” people, which George implictly does here.
Wow. These are the people who think there’s a holocaust (of abortions) going on, gays are plotting to take over the government, and we’re in a war on terror which will go on forever. And which we cannot possibly win.
And yet we’ve all heard them say liberals are sourpusses and righties are the really fun people. Rush Limbaugh thinks he’s a fun person. Ann Coulter thinks she’s a fun person. Dennis Miller thinks he’s funny. I’m not kidding.
Their incredible optimism must explain the Republicans’ staggering ability to fiddle while Rome burns–cf. 9/11, Katrina, the fundamentally-sound economy, not to mention the dire emergency global warming itself. When the going gets rough, the Right get optimistic and giggly.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:23 pmMapleStreet Says:
You’re trying to tell me that a global warming denier not only making up facts but claiming a study says just the opposite of what it really says ?
In 1942 Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:24 pmPerry logan Says:
WAIT are you seriously trying to tell me Dennis Miller thinks he is funny? The delusions of wingnuts obviously know no bounds
February 16th, 2009 at 5:32 pmI will make an suggestion to all repugs and folks who do not think global warming is a consideration. Buy waterfront real estate, preferably something that is less than 10 feet above the present tide line.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:41 pmWhat is the latest projection for raised sea levels in the next 20 years?
The highest point in Florida is 345′.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:45 pmManhattan is 265′
February 16th, 2009 at 5:46 pmFolks like George are counting on Manhattan becoming the Venice of North America.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:49 pmGeorgie Will pretty much sets the WaPo standard for fumbduckery.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:49 pmHoodathunk Says:
What is the latest projection for raised sea levels in the next 20 years?
The highest point in Florida is 345?.
The residents of Florida should reference the Wiki page of the pilot for Stargate Atlantis and invest in a whole lot of scuba diving gear.
February 16th, 2009 at 5:56 pmNow they got that Lars Larson guy on Hardball telling people he will kill anyone in his house. They were talking about prosecuting Bush and Cheney when he said if someone came in his house he would “kill them” – his eyes wild, voice raised. Now that’s Republican. Check it out!
February 16th, 2009 at 6:07 pmBut George, if Global Warming doesn’t exist why aren’t we still buried under glaciers from the last ice age? Huh George? Answer that all you deniers! -=Bin Mauler=-
China — Melting mountain g;sciers in the Himalayas provide the water source for one-sixth of humanity
What part of melting doesnt Bin Baller understand?
February 16th, 2009 at 6:09 pmWill will ignore his errors and blithely continue dispensing disinformatia. The mainstream media will, once again, fail to hold the Right’s noise machine’s feet to the fire.
February 16th, 2009 at 6:13 pmbenny, did you apply for the job running Will’s gondola yet?
February 16th, 2009 at 6:39 pmIs men baller — damn, I keep doing that — I mean benmaller, is he on the sauce already?
He never makes much sense, but now he sounds like he’s talking to an invisible gorilla named Davey or maybe the talking walnut.
February 16th, 2009 at 6:43 pmI’m betting he understands it real good, since he’s witnessed his own own party melting down around him, and his sanity seems to be following suit.
February 16th, 2009 at 6:45 pmWAYNEBRO Says:
The worst part of this is George Will’s smart enough to know better.
No, the worst part of it is that people still believe what you just said there. WaPo could buy a chimpanzee a pair of wire-rimmed spectacles, a bow tie and a thesaurus and… actually come to think of it, maybe they did.
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John Kerry Says:
So we are now supposed to believe the very well known (???) and of course highly respected ACRC!! Sure!!!, no problem!!
It would be like if I cited you as saying that increased government spending promotes economic growth. So when you pointed out that you never said any such thing, somebody else pointing out that you don’t know what you’re talking about hardly refutes the unfairness of the original citation.
If ACRC doesn’t know what they’re talking about (and if they don’t, who does?!?) then Will shouldn’t have been citing them. And if they do, then he shouldn’t have been lying about what their study said.
February 16th, 2009 at 6:48 pmGeorge Will, like the rest of the right-wing, are a gang of liars!
February 16th, 2009 at 7:03 pmI think you mean “let’s”
February 16th, 2009 at 7:29 pmmenballer… er– benmaller…. do you really want to go there?
Are you really prepared to proofread your posts to guard against looking like a fool? After all, it looks kind of foolish to criticize another’s grammar and then turn around and, say, use a period to close an obvious question, or something like that.
Of course, if you haven’t got any substantial argument to make, zeroing in on a typo or a grammatical mistake is always an option, I suppose.
February 16th, 2009 at 7:33 pmbenmaller Says:
Do you ever just look at yourself in the mirror and cry with the embarassment of your abject stupidity? Did you take pills or a program to be so stupid or is it a natural gift? Do you even realize how incredibly ignorant you are?
February 16th, 2009 at 8:08 pmHoodathunk,
Of course the 350 feet elevation is the highest point.
Typical numbers for the southeast are that for every one foot rise in sea level, the horizontal distance lost is between 1 1/2 feet and 10 feet.
So how much of Florida disappears with just a 1 foot rise in sea level ?
And we couldn’t handle even a cat 3 windstorm in NOLA!
February 16th, 2009 at 9:25 pm“The first questions most people ask me these days are how could all those global warmers have got it so wrong and is there any good news? My answer is to remind them of the millennium bug, the dot com bubble and the credit crunch, together these have caused tens of thousands of the worlds most highly paid and computer literate people to succumb to a mass hysteria. The good news is that despite all the carbon dioxide pouring into the atmosphere over the past decade the temperature has not gone up a jot. The reason is that the sun which provides all the energy that warms the Earth, has put a new spotless hat on. The bad news is that we should not shout hooray to loud because we may be jumping out of the frying pan into the freezer.” – David Bellamy, CCNet
February 16th, 2009 at 9:28 pmLTdan is in the House and hittin’ all the threads.
February 16th, 2009 at 9:32 pmLTdan Says:
My GOD you are ignorant. Till you can tell the difference between climate and weather just STFU. Stop embarssing yourself by showing how stupid you are. The world needs people like you to LEAVE it.
February 16th, 2009 at 9:48 pmNo the worst part is that people still spout empty juvenile rhetoric like what you just said. It is a fool who disrespects his enemies abilities and capabilities or accomplishments simply because he does not like him.
Once more, Will holds a BA from Trinity, a BA and a MA from Oxford and an MA and a PHD from Princeton. He taught Philosophy at Michigan University’s James Madison College, the University of Toronto and was a professor at Harvard.
And on top that he’s won a Pulitzer Prize.
Ignore those facts in your juvenile attacks on him to your own peril as they only make you look silly and uninformed.
February 16th, 2009 at 9:49 pmUnfortunately, however, on only two of six cylinders.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:06 pmSo then LoserTroglyditeDan is not just stupid beyond belief he is also a liar. Of course he is what was I thinking?
February 16th, 2009 at 10:19 pmJust googled current conditions for Tampa and Miami.
57 in Tampa, 64 in Miami.
Yes, LameTroll Dan is a liar as well as being a really lame troll.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:32 pmIt was 119 degrees Fahrenheit in Southern Australia Saturday–the highest temperature ever recorded there.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:36 pmWill should be fired like Dan Rather…This psudo-intellectual keeps distorting facts as if they are Gospel. Didn’t Paul Krugman teach him not to mistate the facts ofn “This Week With George?” He should be totally embarassed.
February 16th, 2009 at 10:50 pmThe LOLs and ROFLs read like tics, LTdan. That’s a simple thing you could do to make your posts seem less spastic.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:22 pmGeorge W. Bush is responsible for global warming:
http://andrewyu-jenwang.blogspot.com/2008/12/george-w-bush-is-to-substantial-extent.html
Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
February 17th, 2009 at 1:10 amB.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993
benmaller Says:
Of course Will and his ilk believe that the world is only 6 or 7000 years old so there never really was an ice age.
Aren’t you a member of that “ilk” club?
February 17th, 2009 at 1:22 amWilll someone please hire Andrew to do something else with that B.S.?
February 17th, 2009 at 6:01 amPaul Krugman took George Will to school about the great depression and now George Will again shoots off his mouth without regards to any facts.
These people are nothing more then TALKING HEADS with no knowledge of any particular subject…..STOP THE BS MSM….WE KNOW IT’S BULL SHITE.
February 17th, 2009 at 9:48 am“Once more, Will holds a BA from Trinity, a BA and a MA from Oxford and an MA and a PHD from Princeton. He taught Philosophy at Michigan University’s James Madison College, the University of Toronto and was a professor at Harvard.
And on top that he’s won a Pulitzer Prize.
Ignore those facts in your juvenile attacks on him to your own peril as they only make you look silly and uninformed.”
Really??? If he is so smart, WHY DOES HE CONTINUE TO MAKE STUPID COMMENTS WITHOUT FACTS???? TELL ME HOW HE IS AN EXPERT ON THE ECONOMY?????
Individual view points do not justify telling us what the facts are….until then ….SHUT THE F*** uP!!!!
February 17th, 2009 at 9:53 amslightly OT, but
February 17th, 2009 at 11:03 amhttp://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-02/asoa-wla021609.php
Large amounts of soil carbon will be released if grasslands are converted to energy crops.
Well….. what makes Gore an expert on climate? No matter that over 30,000 earth scientists and climatologists say that man made climate change is a hoax, as do scientists from most every industrial country on earth? It matters not that the average Earth temp leveled off in 1998?
It matters not that there’s more Argon in the atmosphere than C02? As someone once said “It’s the Sun, stupid.” The global
environment is determined by the interaction of the Solar activity (spots and flares) and WATER VAPOR, the most active and reactive of the atmospheric gases!! Now, go to the following web site and check out the Suns activity. http://www.solarcycle24.com/
Go read about the Maunder Minimum, which it appears we’re headed for. For those of you still alive in 20 to 50 years, remember what president put Americas resources off limits at a time when we should be stockpiling PROVEN energy sources of heat, transportation and electric power generation
It’s sad that most every person on this site, on most every topic, simply roll over and believe everything you’ve been taught in the government run school system. Spend a day or three and educate yourselves:
http://www.sepp.org/key%20issues/keyissue.html
http://www.sepp.org/research/scirsrch/EOS1999.html
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/308/5730/1898
I can provide dozens of scientific links debunking HCGW.
Even the much vaunted IPCC, if you took the time to read the entire document (I did) and not just the summary, finally admitted that the relationship between human activity and climate change is still unproven.
March 11th, 2009 at 11:55 amThe entire Global Warming scenario was ginned up in the mid-80’s by George Soros, Maurice Strong and Algore, as a way to enact a global tax on industrialized nations. The Anointed One said as much during His campaign.
Doesn’t it seem odd to many of you that if you plug KNOWN DATA into the “Climate Models” from the beginning of recorded weather, that it can’t come up with the weather we have now?
March 11th, 2009 at 12:02 pm#7 kasinca Says:
“The basis for reichwingnut blow hard philosophy….”
Reply: How odd that you would use the word “Reich.” National Socialism = Nazi = government control of most every part on your life. And what current president is attempting to enact that control? Three guesses…..
March 11th, 2009 at 12:07 pm