Nobody should listen to Cheney in terms of the outcome he wanted relative to Libby.

Cheney attended Yale University, but he flunked out. Cheney was twice prosecuted for and convicted of drunk driving. Cheney lied to former U.S. House Majority Leader Dick Armey about the grounds for going to war in Iraq. Cheney is a pathological liar. Cheney would like to think that he is above the law. However, Cheney must pay for crimes against the United States and the world.

Maybe God is judging and punishing Cheney in afflicting Cheney with further heart problems in the here and now (15 October 2008) notwithstanding God’s fiery judgment against Cheney in the afterlife.

Maybe God also punished Cheney in having placed Cheney in a wheelchair for whatever period of time.

Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993

“GEORGE W. BUSH IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY” BLOG OF ANDREW YU-JEN WANG

ONLINE, ANTI-BUSH, EDUCATIONAL, SCHOLASTIC RESEARCH: LISTING OF MAJOR ISSUES

http://andrewyu-jenwang.blogspot.com/ 2009/ 01/ online-anti-bush-educational-scholastic.html

Your chosen quote was from over two years before there was a 111th Congress (quote was from 2006). First, it is totally irrelevant to the argument since its author had no knowledge of the 111th Congress. Second, you have changed the rules by using a single ‘expert’ when both the original post and my comment were based on public opinion as measured by Gallup polls.

The purpose of my comment was to suggest that we have a better debate when we make honest comparisons. When we instead stack favorable quotes/statistics which are neither relevant nor comparable we only show our partisan nature. If we are serious about debating the issues, we should constructively criticize actions with which we disagree, and give viable alternatives. If we do this, we learn and we improve our situation. When we spend our time saying the other guy is wrong by searching for things only to prove that point, we don’t.

I am new to this blog, but, to date I find that it is not a serious endeavor. My first impression is that it is an outlet for partisans to feel good about their views without fearing a challenge from those with opposing views. A one sided debate serves no purpose and is a waste of my time and yours. I hope to find some honest debate here in the near future.

Good luck! :) :) :) :)

~A

p.s. Republicans SUCK.

Truely exceptional teachers are those who FIND A WAY to teach a given subject to those who “don’t get it”.

I agree with you here to a limited degree. However, as your statement stands it still seems to assume that every subject can be learned by ANY student. Personally I have not had this experience with people, myself included. I can discuss with you the implications of the collapse of the wave function as it applies to the observer in scientific experiments, I can balance my checkbook, and tell you that a squared plus b squared equals c squared, but (despite several attempts with mediocre and excellent teachers and tutors) I cannot for the life of me perform mathematics above basic algebra and geometry. Different minds have different capacities, and I think it is delusional to believe anything otherwise: every person does not possess the SAME intellectual capacity as any other person.

However, the P4P with teachers is not meant as a reward system either (it might be less objectionable if that were the case). It is actually structured as a punishment system, meant ONLY to identify THOSE NOT MEETING THE CRITERIA, so as to terminate their employment or reduce funding. It is not an incentive program, it is a destructive program: meant to destroy the education system that is forced to abide by it (because, given time, every single teacher will “fail” the standards, becasue of the randomness of student populations, eventually every teacher will get a poorly performing classroom). Teachers should just get paid. Period. Performance issues should purely be at the local level (i.e. principals/boards).

The other assumption these P4P with teachers makes ALSO ignores the difference in intellectual potentials of students: the assumption that EVERY student IS capable of getting an “A”. This is completely adverse to the grading system, where the AVERAGE STUDENT (i.e. 70-75 % of the student population in ANY given school) should be a straight “C” student, and this should NOT be a negative stigma. Grades of “B” and “A” are supposed to be reserved for those who perform ABOVE the norm — the assumption of the system (and NCLB) is that the “norm” IS “A”. This is insane.

Personally, though, I believe that the whole grading system is ridiculous anyway. It should be pass or fail: you learned what you were supposed to learn or you did not.

Recently, claims that racism has any role to play in questioning whether Burris should be seated in the U.S. Senate ring similarly hollow. As his story evolves and we get more details about his prior contacts with the Governor I am more confident than ever that the U.S. people will be ill served by this tainted nominee.

Some interesting quotes from the past by doom and gloomer republicans:

Regarding President Clintons economic stimulus package

Rep. Robert Michel (R-IL), Los Angeles Times, 5/28/93:
They will remember who let loose this deadly virus into our economic bloodstream.

Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA), GOP Press Conference, House TV Gallery, 8/5/93: I believe this will lead to a recession next year. This is the Democrat machine’s recession, and each one of them will be held personally accountable.

Regarding Medicare

Rep. Tim Lee Carter (R-KY), 4/65: As one of the last country doctors… I ask my colleagues to vote to recommit… a bill which will within a few years cruelly overburden the Social Security System and the young workers with growing families, who will be forced to pay higher Social Security taxes.

Rep. Durward Hall (R-MO), 4/8/65: …we cannot stand idly by now, as the Nation is urged to embark on an ill-conceived adventure in government medicine, the end of which no one can see, and from which the patient is certain to be the ultimate sufferer.

Regarding Social Security

Rep. John Taber (R-NY), 4/19/35: Never in the history of the world has any measure been brought here so insidiously designed as to prevent business recovery, to enslave workers and to prevent any possibility of the employers providing work for the people.

Rep. Daniel Reed (R-NY), 1935: The lash of the dictator will be felt and 25 million free American citizens will for the first time submit themselves to a fingerprint test.

Rep. James W. Wadsworth (R-NY), 1935: This bill opens the door and invites the entrance into the political field of a power so vast, so powerful as to threaten the integrity of our institutions and to pull the pillars of the temple down upon the heads of our descendants.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/2/15/113912/339/871/697810

I don’t like the comparison of Obama’s 56 senior-level appointees to Bush’s first 28 nominees. Why not compare apple’s to apple’s? Bush’s administration is history, surely you could do a comparison to his senior-level appointees, maybe at the beginning and end of his term. I know you’re linking to a rag that published the original story, but it might be interesting to do the comparison for real. BTW, nice inversion of a hit piece!

hey TP !

you’re listed on the googlenews headlines… sorta…
the picture from your link is up there, and the name is listed:
[photo] Think Progress
Cheney urged Bush to pardon ‘Scooter’ Libby, ‘Daily News’ says
USA Today – 2 hours ago
President Obama was sworn in to office four weeks ago today. This afternoon in Denver, he’ll sign the $787 billion economic stimulus package his fellow Democrats pushed through Congress last week.
GOP watch Looking out for Scooter MSNBC
Ex-VP Dick Cheney outraged President Bush didn’t grant ‘Scooter … New York Daily News
Wonkette (satire) – Think Progress – Online Journal – AOL News Newsbloggers
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