Holder: America is a ‘nation of cowards’ on racial matters.
Holder: America is a ‘nation of cowards’ on racial matters.
Today, Attorney General Eric Holder spoke at the Justice Department in honor of Black History Month. As the first African-American leading the DOJ, he called for a national dialogue on race — something the United States has generally avoided:
Though this nation has proudly thought of itself as an ethnic melting pot, in things racial, we have always been, and we, I believe, continue to be, in two many ways, a nation of cowards. Though race related issues continue to occupy a significant portion of our political discussion, and though there remain many unresolved racial issue in this nation, we, average Americans, simply do not talk enough with each other about things racial. [...]
And we, in this room, bear a special responsibility. Through its work and through its example, the Department of Justice — this Department of Justice — as long as I’m here, must and will leave the nation to the new birth of freedom so long ago promised by our greatest president. This is our duty, this is our solemn responsibility.
Holder’s remarks are a refreshing break from the Bush administration, during which Justice Department officials allowed conservative political interests to trump civil rights concerns. Watch Holder’s speech here.
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February 18th, 2009 at 4:16 pmThis is crazy talk. Cowards? This guy keeps talking stupid like this and he’ll be gine in no time.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:16 pmAnd we, in this room, bear a special responsibility. Through its work and through its example, the Department of Justice — this Department of Justice — as long as I’m here, must and will leave the nation to the new birth of freedom so long ago promised by our greatest president. This is our duty, this is our solemn responsibility.
Be afraid, skinheads. He’s got you in his crosshairs, and the resources of the Justice Department to back his play.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:18 pmHas anyone noticed how Japan, Europe and Germany deal with their race issues? We do a nice job here of trying to eradicate all racism and we have become a very equitable country.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:18 pmYeah — repuglicans certainly aren’t cowards; why, they step right up and spew their racism openly all the time!
February 18th, 2009 at 4:18 pmCowards?
Does self-centered, and bigoted sound better?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:19 pmwoo-hoo – this’ll set righty hair on fire from coast to coast!
February 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pmWell since the GOP is almost 100% made up of bigots and unAmerican racists, it is clear Holder is correct – at least for the 30 something percent still clinging to Bush and his failed policies. When the dialog is driven by 18th century thinking, there is not much hope for progress. The right side likes their little view of the world to remain unchanged. They feel safe in their worldview. Actually, they all appear terrified of any change which would force them to adjust to a new direction. Their success lies in never having to admit that they were wrong.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pmDid I miss something, or did we just elect a black president? The first black man to be a serious contender for his party’s nomination? Where does this racism come from? The idea that America is segregated at this late date is absurd. He needs a reality check.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pmWhen you have a major political party actually openly using “Barack the Magic Negro”, then, yes, I think that race is still an issue.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:22 pmWe do a nice job here of trying to eradicate all racism and we have become a very equitable country.
Dig up James Bird, and ask him how far we’ve come.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:22 pmdrew3rd Says:
Did I miss something, or did we just elect a black president? The first black man to be a serious contender for his party’s nomination? Where does this racism come from? The idea that America is segregated at this late date is absurd. He needs a reality check.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
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You’re absolutely right. The fact that America is still segregated and that racial inequality still exists more than 150 years after the abolition of slavery is indeed absurd. But it’s unfortunately true.
What’s even more absurd are the deniers like yourself who believe that racism ended in this country on November 4th.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:23 pmRacism is alive and well, it’s name is Eric Holder.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:23 pmI also hope he’s going to seriously crack down on sweatshop
February 18th, 2009 at 4:24 pmlabor abuse.
Hussein, where is there segregation?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:25 pmoh god – the tried-and-tedious “reverse racism” card.
get a new deck drew.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:25 pm30% of Americans still believe Bush should be king. Shoot, look at limbaughs viewship for more evidence of racism. In a sane world, limabaugh and o’reilly would be pennyless and living under a pier somewhere. Here in America they are revered and nicely compensated for their spew.
Racism in America? It is very much alive and very easy to see.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:26 pmdrew3rd,
February 18th, 2009 at 4:26 pmas long as we have people sending out “christmas greetings” featuring “barack the magic negro” this country has race problems.
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Racism is alive and well, it’s name is Eric Holder.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Claims a redneck rube living in Texass ……..Boy , tough to argue with all the experience and insight drew(L) brings to the table …………….
What the hell ………???????????
February 18th, 2009 at 4:26 pmyou’ve never been to a major American metropolitan area, have you drew?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:27 pmWho advanced the idea that “America is segregated”?
Oh, you were just moving the goal posts. My bad.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:27 pmdrew3rd Says:
“Hussein, where is there segregation?”
let’s check at the white only country club one of the dudes running for RNC chair belonged to, shall we drew?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:28 pmGet back, Loretta. Real talk about real things in an AG? Have I died and gone to Nirvana?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:28 pmoh well – that’s just more $ for MoveOn.
gimme your address drew, and i’ll get you on their newsletter mailing list as a thank you for all the $.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:28 pmThis is crazy talk. You have got to climb out of your sad pathetic neighborhood, job or area and take a good look at America. This is a place of unparalleled opportunity. Look at France, Germany and Japan and then take a look at how advanced we are concerning race. This is the best place in the world for anyone. Color has no bearing on the opportunities available here. You go on and pretend it’s Selma back in the day. I’ll be a light of truth in the darkness.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:29 pmCorrection — Who advanced the idea that “America is segregated” before you suggested that they had in post #9?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:29 pmtombaker Says:
you’ve never been to a major American metropolitan area, have you drew?
They don’t let drew out very much anymore. He was last seen wandering the highway looking for ways to become relevant. I am afraid his handlers had to take him back to the home. He is not a well boy.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:29 pmdrew3rd Says:
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Hussein, where is there segregation?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Just ask Chris Rock , who is perhaps the TOP comedian in the world today.
He lives in a town (that really isn’t a town) in Jersey ; his neighbors ?
Mary J Blige and a friggin WHITE DENTIST …..
February 18th, 2009 at 4:29 pmRalph, Hussein said segregation still exists. He couldn’t reply as to where.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:30 pmdrew3rd Says:
Hussein, where is there segregation?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
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Strong racial disparities still exist in schools, neighborhoods, corporate board rooms, prisons, foreclosed houses, formerly black neighborhoods of New Orleans, that sort of thing. You can shut your eyes and pretend that it deosn’t exist, but segregation is alive and well in 2009. It’s just very subtle.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:30 pmAlthough his speech was good, what it lacked was acknowledgement of cultural animosity that extends past race. His omission of that is troubling, like he might view racial hate-crimes as more deserving of prosecution than gay hate crimes.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:31 pmdrew3rd Says:
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This is crazy talk. You have got to climb out of your sad pathetic neighborhood, job or area and take a good look at America. This is a place of unparalleled opportunity. Look at France, Germany and Japan and then take a look at how advanced we are concerning race. This is the best place in the world for anyone. Color has no bearing on the opportunities available here. You go on and pretend it’s Selma back in the day. I’ll be a light of truth in the darkness.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Lemme’ ask you : Have you EVER been out of Texass ?
I find that highly unlikely ………….
February 18th, 2009 at 4:32 pmdrew3rd Says:
Ralph, Hussein said segregation still exists. He couldn’t reply as to where.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
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I just did, moron.
And I forgot to mention the anti-Latino crusader who marched immigrants through town in their underwear.
But yeah, racism is dead. Uh-huh.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:33 pmActually, in the past 2 years I have spent two weeks in France, Germany and Japan. There is nowhere as segregated as Japan. I went to a Takarazuka show “Elisabeth”. It is primarily a womens gathering and they made me very unwelcome just for being a man in their territory. France, blacks and whites don’t work or live together like Chris Rock and his white dentist. Germany, forget about it. Berlin, you see some blacks but they are not working with or in business with Germans. America rules the world in melting the pot. YOU need to get out more.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:34 pmIf you want to find racism, I suggest looking at the videotapes of one of Palins rallies – or McCains, or Romney’s, or Gulliani’s, or Bush’s (41 & 43), or just poke your head out of your a$$ long enough to notice.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:34 pmNo, drew, I haven’t noticed. Why don’t you explain what that has to do with us.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:34 pmI am literally standing up and applauding Holder!
Truth hurts, doesn’t it drew?
we, average Americans, simply do not talk enough with each other about things racial. […]
And we, in this room, bear a special responsibility.
Truer words have never been spoken.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:34 pmThis is a place of unparalleled opportunity. Look at France, Germany and Japan and then take a look at how advanced we are concerning race. This is the best place in the world for anyone.
Canada has a better record, for both gays and blacks. And it’s a better cultural climate for all races.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:36 pmDrew – you do mean the same France that welcomed black artists from the States dating back to the ’20’s, extending thought to the 60’s and 70’s, and provided a safe haven and loads of income to people who were not welcome here, don’t you?
If you do, then maybe you’ll explain how and when they veered so sharply to the right, ’cause I missed it.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:36 pmFolks, thwere is no segregation in America apart from self segregation. Not because of race, but because of class. White people don’t live in North Philly because it is racist. They don’t live there because it is dangerous and lacks opportunity for their children. Black neighbors are not a defining characteristic. You want to scream segregation, then you need to ask black people why they congregate around and accept the lack of opportunities in North Philly, not the other way around.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:37 pmAnd just because we have fought long and hard to diminish discrimination, we aren’t done yet. Not by a long shot.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:38 pmdrew3rd Says:
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Actually, in the past 2 years I have spent two weeks in France, Germany and Japan. There is nowhere as segregated as Japan. I went to a Takarazuka show “Elisabeth”. It is primarily a womens gathering and they made me very unwelcome just for being a man in their territory. France, blacks and whites don’t work or live together like Chris Rock and his white dentist. Germany, forget about it. Berlin, you see some blacks but they are not working with or in business with Germans. America rules the world in melting the pot. YOU need to get out more.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Hey Johnny Ignoramus ; do you understand anything ? (apparently not)
CHRIS ROCK : probably the TOP COMEDIAN in the world today.
Mary J Blige : One of the TOP SINGERS in the world today.
Their neighbor is a non-descript , NON-TOP , WHITE DENTIST ; you don’t see any discrimination in that , nitwit ?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:38 pmdrew3rd Says:
Look at France, Germany and Japan and then take a look at how advanced we are concerning race. This is the best place in the world for anyone. Color has no bearing on the opportunities available here. You go on and pretend it’s Selma back in the day. I’ll be a light of truth in the darkness.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
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We’re not pretending it’s “Selma back in the day.” You’re the only idiot advancing that strawman idea. We don’t deny that the movements of the 60s made considerable progress in racial equality in this country. I also agree that other countries have FAR worse ethnic and racial tensions. France is a good example. So is China. So is India. So is Guatemala. Fair enough.
But “better than China at race relations” isn’t a very good metric. We know we can do much better than that. I salute AG Holder for acknowledging this so publicly.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:39 pmAs long as we have the GOP, we will always have knuckle dragging losers thinking they are superior because of their skin color. Think about it: The GOP has at it’s leadership Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin. Both slightly dimwitted and uninformed bigots. What a team you have assembled there!
February 18th, 2009 at 4:39 pmtombaker is right when he says;
woo-hoo – this’ll set righty hair on fire from coast to coast!
Unless they are to busy frothing about something else. How dare this traitor call us cowards? Why does he hate America? He should resign now. Drew says any mention of race issues makes you a racists.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:39 pmYou want to scream racism, then you need to ask black people why they congregate around and accept the lack of opportunities in North Philly, not the other way around.
Your strawman was leaning horribly, so I fixed it for you.
Gratis.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:39 pmYes Tom, there are areas into which blacks cannot go. Have you been lately? It is a sad, depressing place. I’m not talking about DeGaulle in Paris. You have to look around from the tourist areas to see how the people really live. It would be like saying the people in Cancun live in opulent timeshares with sparkling blue pools and waiters there to priovide for their every need.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:41 pmdrew picked up a killer deal at the strawman store last week -he’s got them stacked like cordwood in his basement.
they’re manufactured in a Marianas sweatshop that’s owned by a holding company whose biggest stockholders are John Cornyn and Tom DeLay, so he was able to pick them up for a song.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:42 pmdrew3rd Says: Actually, in the past 2 years I have spent two weeks in France, Germany and Japan.
Well I grant you that this gives you more credibility than say Bush or Palin, but still 2 whole weeks is sufficient for such a broad statement?
There is nowhere as segregated as Japan. I went to a Takarazuka show “Elisabeth”. It is primarily a womens gathering and they made me very unwelcome just for being a man in their territory.
They MADE you unwelcome? Or did you FEEL unwelcome? Big difference. And might it be because you weren’t a good guest in some manner – you know, kind of like how you are visiting us at TP?
Finally, who cares how we rank in the world? If we have problems at all, we should acknowledge them and work at fixing them to be OUR best, a more perfect union.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:42 pmdrew3rd Says:
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Yes Tom, there are areas into which blacks cannot go. Have you been lately? It is a sad, depressing place. I’m not talking about DeGaulle in Paris. You have to look around from the tourist areas to see how the people really live. It would be like saying the people in Cancun live in opulent timeshares with sparkling blue pools and waiters there to priovide for their every need.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
What does your prattling on about Paris , Cancun , or wherever the hell else have to do with your ridiculously fraudulent claim that there is no segregation in the US ?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:43 pm“then you need to ask black people why they congregate around and accept the lack of opportunities in North Philly,”
oohhhhh, let me field this one: because it’s all they can afford?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pmtombaker has a point!
Isn’t that why Josephine Baker moved there? And what about Eartha Kitt?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pmI’m sorry that everyone hates America so much. It really is the grandest place on earth. I get to travel extensively so I realize I have a different perspective. You must look at how other countries live before you start deriding America as a cowardly, racist place. Nowhere on earth do black men and women live, work and play alongside white men and women. Martin Luther King Jr’s dream has taken hold. I am happy for it. I only wish you could see how great a place this is. It must be a sad thing to live somewhere you see as so ugly.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pmI think drewlast is just not able to open his eyes, or he’s just peeved at the “coward” reference.
We, as a nation, have made great strides in reducing racism, but we are still way behind.
It doesn’t matter where Japan and it’s women are at.
It doesn’t matter where France and it’s so called segregation is at.
What matters is here, right here, right now!
And if you think racism has all but been eliminated from the good ol’ U S of A, I dare you, if you’re white, to walk down Compton during sunset. I dare you, if you’re Jewish or African American, to walk into any trailer park in the south (or Texas).
If you are Middle Eastern descent, I dare you to walk onto an airplane.
We have skeletons my friend. Skeletons with blood. And it’s being passed down from generation to generation.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:45 pmhooray! good on ya, sir…
and talk about timing… thanks!
February 18th, 2009 at 4:45 pmeartha kitt actually lived in fairfield here in connecticut. she was married to a nice jewish doctor. her obituary was in the local news a month ago.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:45 pmGosh Drew, let me jot off a note to my friend Mark from college who has lived there for the last 10 years or so – I should alert him to the fact everything he’s reported about the place is mistaken – some of those “surrender-monkey” propagandists must’ve gotten to him. I’m sure he’ll be grateful to you for clearing it up based on a canned vacation you once took.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:46 pmYou can’t talk about superstars moving anywhere. I’m talking about the life the people lead. Is Hollywood the greatest place on earth? It is if you are Rich and famous. Otherwise it’s a real bummer the first time you go, same with South Baech, Miami.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:47 pmFor someone who travels so very much, you’ve sure got a lot of time to hang out posting on blogs.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pmdrew3rd -
You’re comparing apples and oranges. Japan, Germany and France are not “melting pot” countries. It’s pointless to compare a 200+ year old country against one with a 4,000-year traditon of racial purity.
Holder is correct. We’ve made great strides, but we still have a long way to go.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pmIt is real hard to build equality (a guarantee of our Constitution) when we have an organized group fighting that very same idea. That we have come as far as we have speaks highly of the American populace.
That we still have a ways to go says there are still people who don’t get it.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pmThere is nowhere as segregated as Japan. I went to a Takarazuka show “Elisabeth”. It is primarily a womens gathering and they made me very unwelcome just for being a man in their territory.
Like a rabbi at a revival. Your cultural ignorance was their fault?
Nowhere on earth do black men and women live, work and play alongside white men and women.
How about…prison? So you’re saying America — is like a prison?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:48 pmDR you are talking like a moonbat. Blacks won’t walk the streets of Compton. I won’t enter a trailer park in the South. Stop with the America is a racist nation crap. It is the best place on the earth for anyone to succeed, regardless of Muslim, Jew, black, whatever.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pm…not that I object to you hanging out and posting – it just contributes more to the causes I support.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pmnobody said the USA was the worst place in the world drew.
…step away from the man made of straw.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:50 pmdrew3rd Says:
I’m sorry that everyone hates America so much. It really is the grandest place on earth. I get to travel extensively so I realize I have a different perspective. You must look at how other countries live before you start deriding America as a cowardly, racist place.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
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Ahh, more idiocy from the right. Criticizing America = hating America.
Obviously, travelling hasn’t given you a different perspective at all. It’s just reinforced your preconceived notions. Next time you travel, I suggest opening your eyes while you’re on the tour bus.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:50 pmCould you go see a broadway show that was manly barfly? Of course you could. No one would care that you are gay. Japan segregates by race AND gender. America is not that way. You just won’t see it. Are there racist people in America, yes, black and white racists. Do I think America is racist simply because Al sharpton and Jesse Jackson are? No!!
February 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pmWell, I guess Eartha was exiled more because of her outspokenness regarding Vietnam than regarding race, but, she was banished to Europe for at least a decade.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm“It’s hard to laugh, when the jokes on you.”
The only culture worth having is one where the members can stand up and cry coward when coward needs be called.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:53 pmdrew3rd Says:
I’m sorry that everyone hates America so much.
Finding fault in order to correct it is LOVE and CARING
It really is the grandest place on earth.
Yes it is, but it’s not PERFECT.
I get to travel extensively so I realize I have a different perspective.
Arrogant and presumptive little bastard aren’t you?
You must look at how other countries live before you start deriding America as a cowardly, racist place.
According to you. When I raised my daughter, I didn’t look to how other kids lived before I worked at correcting her misjudgments and misconduct. I looked to OUR family values.
I only wish you could see how great a place this is.
Blind allegiance is not patriotism.
It must be a sad thing to live somewhere you see as so ugly.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:53 pmIt is cowardly to not look at the imperfections in your society and seek to improve them. And it is foolishness to think that anything human is without blemish.
Blacks won’t walk the streets of Compton.
Ridiculous. I was therejust yesterday, and saw hundreds, at busstops, walking, in McDonalds, and yes, some just hanging out.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:53 pmGoldberg: Hackneyed and reprehensible. And stupid to the xxxx degree.
Now I always thought of the US as a very racist country, tho some of us were trying not to be. Anyone who thought otherwise is a moron.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:54 pmThere are two classes of racists – Republicans and red necks. Michael Steele is a clone of Clarence Thomas.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pmYes, posters have said America is racist and segregated. It is a ridiculous statement and I wish to proclaim that america is the melting pot of the world. No one integrates as well as we do. The truth is, no one even tries. We are the only nation that works to equalize everyone, regardless of natioanlity. I don’t need an AG standing up like it’s Alabama in 1865. We’re not even Alabama in 1985. We continue to progress. We are a great nation.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pmdrew3rd Says:
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I’m sorry that everyone hates America so much. It really is the grandest place on earth. I get to travel extensively so I realize I have a different perspective. You must look at how other countries live before you start deriding America as a cowardly, racist place. Nowhere on earth do black men and women live, work and play alongside white men and women. Martin Luther King Jr’s dream has taken hold. I am happy for it. I only wish you could see how great a place this is. It must be a sad thing to live somewhere you see as so ugly.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Fu(k you clown ; waving your little Chinese-made American flag while adorning the same in pin form to attach to your lapel doesn’t make you arbiter of who is patriotic or loyal to the US.
That’s the same nonsense the Chimpy administration insisted on pushing , and which the GOP still tries to use ; you’re either “with us or against us”.
If you want to stumble through life blindly while sporting rose-colored glasses , that’s your perogative ; it is those like yourself that have been pre-eminently responsible for the decay and falling in standing of this country , while you desperately search for scape-goats or others to pin it upon.
Instead of viewing the situation for what it truly is and try to work out a reasonable solution for it , you deny and deny it some more , and when finally confronted with it personally , your only interest is to try to lay it at the feet of those who are completely blameless.
You are cowards of the most despicable sort , and a GOD-DAMN disgrace……..Get out of MY COUNTRY
February 18th, 2009 at 4:56 pmAnyone else find it funny that drew3rd has spent an entire thread refusing to confront America’s racism on a thread devoted to the cowardice of most Americans when it comes to confronting racism?
I do…
February 18th, 2009 at 4:56 pmAfter dark Barfly? Compton is a dangerous place for young black men. It isn’t white people who mean him harm.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:56 pmMy mother always used to say she wasn’t racist, until I brought a black boy home.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:56 pmOf course you could. No one would care that you are gay.
I was wondering when your comments would beging traveling south.
And how did you suss me? Was it my lispy grammar?
Or are you cruising?
February 18th, 2009 at 4:57 pmDoughy Pantload (from the link):
I haven’t read the whole speech, just some press reports but I find Eric Holder’s comments on race both hackneyed and reprehensible. He says that America is “essentially a nation of cowards” because it doesn’t talk about race enough.
“I haven’t read the whole speech, but I’m going to sit in judgment on it, anyway.”
First, I think this is nonsense as we talk about race a great, great, great deal in this country. Endless courses in colleges and universities, chapters in high school textbooks, movies, documentaries, after-school-specials and so on are devoted to discussing race. We even have something called “Black History Month” — the occasion for Holder’s remarks to begin with — when America is supposed to spend a month talking about the black experience.
Hey, Pantload, a few academic courses on race does not mean “we talk about race a great, great, great deal.” Not even close.
Idiot.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:57 pmdrew3rd Says:
Japan segregates by race AND gender. America is not that way.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
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In today’s lesson, you learn that Japanese culture is different from American culture. Bravo!
Next lesson – water is wet. Are you sure you can handle this, Drew? It’s a little complicated!
February 18th, 2009 at 4:57 pmall holder said, which as true a statement as can be made, is that we shy away from discussions of race, and we do.
comedians are the only people who touch the subject, and i’m grateful they do.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:57 pmdrew3rd Says:
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Yes, posters have said America is racist and segregated. It is a ridiculous statement and I wish to proclaim that america is the melting pot of the world. No one integrates as well as we do. The truth is, no one even tries. We are the only nation that works to equalize everyone, regardless of natioanlity. I don’t need an AG standing up like it’s Alabama in 1865. We’re not even Alabama in 1985. We continue to progress. We are a great nation.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
What country has the words “All Men Are Created Equal” written on legal parchment to define it , you dummy ?
Jesus , you are an idiot ………..
February 18th, 2009 at 4:58 pmdrew3rd Says:
After dark Barfly? Compton is a dangerous place for young black men. It isn’t white people who mean him harm.
Have you EVER been? I think not, with these comments.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:58 pmdrew3rd Says:
Yes, posters have said America is racist and segregated. It is a ridiculous statement and I wish to proclaim that america is the melting pot of the world. No one integrates as well as we do.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
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Yup. We do just fine, as long as everyone melts down their own culture and starts acting white.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:59 pm“…..a nation of cowards” is one that allows WAR CRIMINALS to roam free ejoying their blood-money and mocking justice at every turn!!
February 18th, 2009 at 4:59 pmMaybe Mr. Holder can focus on THAT too as a priority.
Japan, France, and Germany doesn’t have black populations that are descendants of their slave economy.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:59 pmThere is no racism to confront. I don’t think coward is an appropriate word for Holder to use. He acts as if we have racial issues that need to be rectified. There are none. The American people continue to integrate on a daily basis. Here in Texas, my city of 350,000 is 70% Hispanic. Hispanics, whites, blacks, Vietnamese, Filipino, Koreans all work together in our economy, schools, stores and places of business. That is what America is all about. That opportunity for everyone. Holder hasn’t got a clue, he has an agenda.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pmthe Department of Justice — this Department of Justice — as long as I’m here, must and will leave the nation to the new birth of freedom so long ago promised by our greatest president.
Fine with me, no problem there, just don’t forget to investigate the crimes of the last eight years.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:01 pmI think we should talk about the GWOT and racism.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:01 pmHolder hasn’t got a clue, he has an agenda.
Let me fix this…
drew3rd hasn’t got a clue, he has an agenda.
… that’s better.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:01 pmWho is the rat that stuck a Johan Goldberg link on this story? My eyes! My eyes! Hackneyed? And reprehensible? The slob hadn’t even read Holder’s speech, by his own admission!
Jonah = Hackneyed
Goldberg = Reprehensible
Where’s the Visine?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:01 pmOne of the problems of confronting race issues, is that they are divisive. If you talk about race issues, you put yourself in jeopardy of being misconstrued as a racist.
I think that is why many avoid the discussions altogether. It’s kind of a catch-22.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:02 pmwiley Says:
Japan, France, and Germany doesn’t have black populations that are descendants of their slave economy.
February 18th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
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No, but France and Germany have black populations who are descendants of their colonial economies, which is just as bad.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pmdrew3rd Says:
It really is the grandest place on earth. I get to travel extensively so I realize I have a different perspective.
Wow! The uncontestable power of anecdotary evidence and personal opinion.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pm“There is no racism to confront.”
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/
Drew – here’s a link – explore the site, then come back and repeat the quote I’ve copied above.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pmIf you’re too scared drew3rd, just take 91 west to the Santa Fe exit (just before the casino), and head north, into a clean, well-lit (and patrolled) area of new shops, homes, and commuter rail service. You’ve been listening to too much gangsta’ rap, if you really believe the picture you’re drawn of Compton. Just sayin’…
February 18th, 2009 at 5:03 pmdrew3rd says:This is crazy talk. Cowards? This guy keeps talking stupid like this and he’ll be gine in no time.
drew3rd ~ what planet do you live on? You’re the one talking crazy. I guess you haven’t heard “Barack the magic Negro” or seen any of the billboards showing President Obama sporting a towel wrapped around his head??? We need to stand up against radical neo-nazi, skinheads, KKK groups and any other group out there that thinks they’re superior to everyone else! We can’t sweep it under the rug forever!
February 18th, 2009 at 5:04 pmdrew3rd Says:
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There is no racism to confront. I don’t think coward is an appropriate word for Holder to use. He acts as if we have racial issues that need to be rectified. There are none. The American people continue to integrate on a daily basis. Here in Texas, my city of 350,000 is 70% Hispanic. Hispanics, whites, blacks, Vietnamese, Filipino, Koreans all work together in our economy, schools, stores and places of business. That is what America is all about. That opportunity for everyone. Holder hasn’t got a clue, he has an agenda.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Yeah , because Rodney King was looking to get his head beat in and Abner Louima wanted to have a colonic performed on him with a plunger handle …………
February 18th, 2009 at 5:04 pmLike Colbert, I’m color blind.
Drewtheturd, what color am I?
Right, color me blue
February 18th, 2009 at 5:05 pmbelac Says:
Anyone else find it funny that drew3rd has spent an entire thread refusing to confront America’s racism on a thread devoted to the cowardice of most Americans when it comes to confronting racism?
I do…
LOL – me, too. He sure is going out of his way to prove Holder’s point.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:06 pmdrew3rd is demonstrating that he has the same definition of “patriotism” as the “love it or leave it” crowd only with more subtlety, kind of like comparing the racism of 1950’s and today.
In MY travels around the world and here in the U.S., I have seen more racial epithets against blacks, Hispanics, and Arabs right here in the good ole US of A. In fact, I don’t even have to leave my own bigot-ridden county to find the worst. Holder’s comment fit people like drew3rd very well.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:06 pmIt’s kind of a catch-22.
And in the wrong neighborhood, maybe a catch-.45.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:06 pmdrew3rd Says:
There are none. The American people continue to integrate on a daily basis.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
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Except, you know, that whole class thing. They don’t integrate by class, remember? You said it yourself.
Tell me – how does the mean income of the Hispanics in your Texas town compare to that of whites in your town? How about African-Americans? Vietnamese? Filipinos? Koreans? They must be all the same, if we’re truly integrated.
Check that stat and get back to me about whether we’ve achieved equality of opportunity in this country.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:06 pmdrew3rd is making a day of it aren’t they? Still I think they can’t hold Bartlebee’s jockstrap
February 18th, 2009 at 5:09 pmHolders simply being honest.
Deal with it.
I for one find it incredibly refreshing after 8 years of being lied to.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:10 pmhopefully, drew followed my link over to stormfront’s site, and is busy finding out more about how racism doesn’t exist, or whatever the hell he was trying to say.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:10 pmDrew, America jumped light-years ahead of Japan on racial equality on July 4, 1776. How america fares against other countries is irrelevent, in this respect.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:10 pmWTF does this mean??? I’m can’t believe someone would type, much less think this…?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:11 pmCha-Ching Dummy – more $$ for MoveOn – arentcha proud???
February 18th, 2009 at 5:11 pmHey, OlbySucks, have you ever put a jig-saw puzzle together? You know, “unified” the pieces? You can’t do it until you admit that they aren’t together already can you? Your party WANTS disunity, a caste system.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:11 pmNow if you want to talk segregation, walk down Harry Hines blvd in Dallas. On one side there are cowboy bars, the other, Mexican-American joints. Cowboys occasionally get too drunk, and wander over to the “Mexican” side of the street, with little trouble. But if a hispanic accidently goes on the other side, he could get killed – and many have.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:12 pmJust an aside, but the idea that anyone who stands up and says the US isn’t perfect and being called on it as unAmerican is contradictory. America has been built by nay sayers, challengers, independent thinkers. We pride ourselves on being innovators, iconoclasts, free thinkers. We don’t follow the rules, we make them.
So how come we listen to the pitiful repugs tell us that we have to follow their rules?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:13 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
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drew3rd Says:
There are none. The American people continue to integrate on a daily basis.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
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Except, you know, that whole class thing. They don’t integrate by class, remember? You said it yourself.
Tell me – how does the mean income of the Hispanics in your Texas town compare to that of whites in your town? How about African-Americans? Vietnamese? Filipinos? Koreans? They must be all the same, if we’re truly integrated.
Check that stat and get back to me about whether we’ve achieved equality of opportunity in this country.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
drew(L)’s idea of equality , integration , opportunity and freedom are as pale as his skin ….
His “this is the best country , and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it” rhetoric reads like a grade-schooler composed it …..Or a Republican…..Which is the same thing , anyway
February 18th, 2009 at 5:13 pmMr Sucks is going to be sad if drew3rd gets all the attention.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pmOlby Sucks Says:
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Holder: America is a ‘nation of cowards’ on racial matters.»
The party of “unity” at it, again.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Claims a “you’re either with us or against us” chickenshit coward who merely mirrors those who coined the term ………..
February 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pmHoodathunk, I think we should listen but then shout right back with the combined power of emotion and reason, telling them in no-uncertain terms that WE are the patriots.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:14 pmPLC, that be what we are. Its time we used our voice.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:16 pmWhy is it okay for France, Germany and Japan to have “a different culture”, but Americans are racist. We integrate and we’re racist. Europe and Japan segregate and they have a different culture? You can’t be serious. Folks, america has a few racists, oooohhhh what will we do. At least we are a melting pot and not a segregated nation like Japan, Germany and France.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:16 pmdrew3rd Says:
I’m sorry that everyone hates America so much. It really is the grandest place on earth. I get to travel extensively so I realize I have a different perspective. You must look at how other countries live before you start deriding America as a cowardly, racist place. Nowhere on earth do black men and women live, work and play alongside white men and women. Martin Luther King Jr’s dream has taken hold. I am happy for it. I only wish you could see how great a place this is. It must be a sad thing to live somewhere you see as so ugly.
Any semblance of progress is not for you to take credit. If this was 1964 I’d bet you’d be among the whiners against the newly-passed civil rights bill.
Shut the hell up.
For a party that claims to love America so much, they sure do a good job weakening her defenses, putting her in debt, and downplaying any problem of which they have neither the stamina nor the tolerance to take on. The GOP sits on their asses and enjoys the fruits of labor earned by the little guy in the worst of conditions they create.
I repeat: Shut the hell up.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:17 pmdrew3rd Says:
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Why is it okay for France, Germany and Japan to have “a different culture”, but Americans are racist. We integrate and we’re racist. Europe and Japan segregate and they have a different culture? You can’t be serious. Folks, america has a few racists, oooohhhh what will we do. At least we are a melting pot and not a segregated nation like Japan, Germany and France.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
If you would merely purchase a compass and a map (perhaps from the Miss Carolina contestant) , you’d realize you don’t live in France, Germany or Japan ………
February 18th, 2009 at 5:18 pmdrew3rd, ever hear of the Atlantic Ocean? Or the Pacific? We do what we do because it is what we feel is right. They all get to make their own choices.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:19 pmAlpuz, you haven’t sen the DoJ’s or FBI’s black on black crime statistics. they are widely read and well known. they are sad and disheartening in many ways. Fortunately, many of these young men are figuring out that they are smart enough and talented enough to break out of the inner city and actually make a nice life in Racist America.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:19 pmdrew3rd Says:
At least we are a melting pot and not a segregated nation like Japan, Germany and France.
The USA is a melting pot. It’s just that occasionally they don’t let the darker bits float to the top of the pot.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:20 pmDrew,
Just go away, far far away.
The adults will handle it for you.
Thanks,
February 18th, 2009 at 5:22 pmOlby,
Time for your meds. Please logout.
Thanks
February 18th, 2009 at 5:22 pmThat was sort of unexpected. I hope he prosecutes Bush and co.
Hey guys, check out my new blog at http://plunditry.com
February 18th, 2009 at 5:23 pmdrew’s got a point. we still have significant race issues to overcome. But, by comparison, America is more integrated than the ones he mentions.
Has there been a black Japanese prime minister, black German chancellor, black French President?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:23 pmMac, it was Herbert Brownell, a personal hero of mine, who helped author and pass the Civil Rights acts of ‘58, 60′ and ‘64. He was a repug strategist and he use repugs to get it done. Don’t try and act like only Democrats were down for the struggle. the aforementioned Chuck Heston marched for Martin Luther King Jr. He was my kind of Democrat, even if he did defect later. Americans got the Civil Rights act done. It was white Americans who got them passed. Repugs, Democrats, Independents, everyone. From that day forward, Martin Luther King’s work has grown and grown. When I travel, I am proud of America for many things, equality is among them.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pmJonah Goldberg says that he finds Holder’s comments “both hackneyed and reprehensible.”
Took that scumbag this long to figure out how a lot of us feel about his existence , did it ?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pmdrew3rd Says:
Why is it okay for France, Germany and Japan to have “a different culture”, but Americans are racist. We integrate and we’re racist. Europe and Japan segregate and they have a different culture? You can’t be serious. Folks, america has a few racists, oooohhhh what will we do. At least we are a melting pot and not a segregated nation like Japan, Germany and France.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
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Who said it was “okay?”
Recognizing that different cultures handle racial issues differently is not an endorsement. It’s simply a recognition of the fact that you can’t compare apples and orangutans. Racism in Japan (which, allow me to state for the record, is a bad thing) must be looked at from a Japanese perspective in order to be fully understood. Racism in France (which, allow me to also state for the record, is a bad thing) must be looked at from a French perspective in order to be fully understood. Same thing with racism in China and India (which I’ve witnessed personally during my travels, and which I’m also stating for the record to be a bad thing).
America has done pretty well with race over the last 50 years. We’ve made great strides in equality, and we can be proud of that fact. But that doesn’t mean we’re finished. It doesn’t mean racism is over, just because we’re not as bad as China. It doesn’t mean we don’t have room for improvement.
The fact that you’re here denying the fact that racial disparity exists in this country is proof positive that we have a long ways to go, and is exactly what Holder was referring to. Thank you for proving him right.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pmdrew3rd Says:
Why is it okay for France, Germany and Japan to have “a different culture”, but Americans are racist.
I agree. We should bomb everybody into racists.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pmShall I give you a list of Golf Courses Mr. Woods is not welcome on?
idiot
February 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pmGee, ya THINK?
:|
Oh and by the way. If you want to continue to sell us on your patriotism you might not want to type the name of our great nation in lower case.
While illiteracy may be a plausible excuse it still doesn’t bode well for your chest thumping speeches on patriotism.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pmdrew3rd, your post #121 is nothing more than a rehash of the hash you were slinging previously. We have confronted, debunked, argued, and refuted your strawmen and general lack of logic on this issue.
There is only one conclusion left: you, sir, are a coward who cannot objectively reflect on your own or your country’s faults. I, for one, know damn well that there is still considerable prejudice in this country, which is itself racism. I know because I have to fight it whenever it raises its ugly head in ME. I am not afraid to admit that. Rather, I am proud that I can and that I try to overcome it. That is true patriotism.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pmAt least we are a melting pot and not a segregated nation like Japan, Germany and France.
And the template for a “One World” culture, and society. Won’t it be great when scarcity and greed cause the rest of the world to capitulate to us, and beg our governance? We’ll be clean when that work is done, eternally free, and eternally young…
February 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pmI feel for you , drew. You put out these claimed beliefs about how we are less racial than other countries and then turn around and argue it isn’t so. Has to be tough having two voices in the same head.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:25 pmTell us how much you love America, member of the regional party. How do you like your America? Deep-red?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:25 pmbackup Says:
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drew’s got a point. we still have significant race issues to overcome. But, by comparison, America is more integrated than the ones he mentions.
Has there been a black Japanese prime minister, black German chancellor, black French President?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
No , but there HAS BEEN a female chancellor in Germany ; and an Oriental Prime Minister in Japan (duh)………
Have there ever been either as President of the US ?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:26 pmso you didn’t check out the stormfront like drew?
didn’t figure you would, because it doesn’t jibe with your neat-and-tidy preconceptions.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:26 pms/b link.
here it is again drew – check it out.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Olby. How bout Oprah, Michael Jordan, Clarence Thomas? What about attorney general Eric Holder? Former Secretary of State Colin Powell?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pmCalling Americans cowards for creating an equitable nation that provides opportunity to everyone is counterproductive and shows Mr. Holder is a race baiter. I’m not sure the DoJ is where we need race baiting.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pmFebruary 18th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
It’s always interesting to me how often “white” people profess that racism no longer exists in America. With that, I am going to take a huge leap of faith and assume Drew is white. Drew cannot see the racism in all its forms because he can choose not to.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:28 pmhttp://www.stormfront.org/forum
February 18th, 2009 at 5:28 pmdrew3rd Says:
When I travel, I am proud of America for many things, equality is among them.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
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Speaking of equality, what’s the ETA on those income statistics from your town? I’m curious to know just how equal everyone is.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:28 pmListen to the other voice, drew.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:28 pmbackup Says:
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Olby. How bout Oprah, Michael Jordan, Clarence Thomas? What about attorney general Eric Holder? Former Secretary of State Colin Powell?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
EXCEPTIONS are not THE RULE ……….Get it ?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:29 pmbut thanks from the MoveOn team nonetheless.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:29 pm“Calling Americans cowards for creating an equitable nation that provides opportunity to everyone is counterproductive and shows Mr. Holder is a race baiter. I’m not sure the DoJ is where we need race baiting.”
Wow – You were able to take Holder’s comment SO far out of context he might as well not have said it.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:29 pmhuh? WTF are you babbling on about now? Tell me, drew where in Texas do you live. I lived there for 12 long years and my experience is quite a bit different than yours.
In fact, nutter… I think you’re lying.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:30 pmdrew3rd lacks the stamina. Olby Sucks is just lame. Can we get some odds over here?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:30 pmbackup Says:
Has there been a black Japanese prime minister, black German chancellor, black French President?
Nicaragua had a women president about a decade ago (supported by the US, yes), Evo Morales is an indian which is president of Bolivia. No indian was president before. Lula was a lathe worker before being unon leader and then president of Brazil. India has had on its provinces, women leaders that come from the lower indian classes.
The US example is noteworthy due to all the racism there, but around the world there are dozen of examples of people from a minority in positions of power. Nothing new. Nothing to applaud.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:30 pmThe deep red states that held on to the GOP in the 2008 election have very little in opportunity: their populace is less educated, less healthy, fewer jobs are created and retained, and their workers are paid less.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:30 pmcreating an equitable nation that provides opportunity to everyone
On Mars? Go to Watts, and take a look at all the opportunities.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:31 pmLet’s take a look at some statistics, shall we? Linky linky:
Whites: 66% of the population, 94% of the Senate.
Latinos: 14% of the population, 3% of the Senate.
African-americans: 13% of the population, 1% of the Senate.
Asians and Pacific: 5% of the population, 2% of the Senate.
Native Americans: 2% of the population, 0% of the Senate.
Figures from 2007.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:31 pmShall I give you a list of Golf Courses Mr. Woods is not welcome on?
yes
Well, there’s this one for starters… http://www.forestlakeclub.com/
February 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pm… you may remember it Mr. Sucks…Mr. Dawson, one of the candidates for RNC chair, was a member there…
What About the So Called Criminal Justice System.
America leads the Industrial World in INCARCERATIONS, and A DISPROPOTIONATE Number of these Unfortunate INMATES are Minorities.
Why is that…Genetic???
The WAR ON DRUGS…Ethnic Cleansing American Style.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pmMcWars Says:
The deep red states that held on to the GOP in the 2008 election have very little in opportunity: their populace is less educated, less healthy, fewer jobs are created and retained, and their workers are paid less.
I forgot to mention: the deep-red states are the headquarters of racism.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pmdrew3rd Says:
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Calling Americans cowards for creating an equitable nation that provides opportunity to everyone is counterproductive and shows Mr. Holder is a race baiter. I’m not sure the DoJ is where we need race baiting.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
What do you think hiring practices performed by the Bush-run DOJ was for 8 years ?
An open-minded , equitable endeavor ?
You are EXACTLY what Holder is referring to ; a coward……
February 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pmI am native american. I have dealt with prejudice when I was younger. I haven’t seen it since high school. Not the same as being black I know, but where I grew up, Indians had behaved pretty poorly and people expected me to be the same. A drunk who slept with my sister. When I didn’t turn out that way, I became a respected member of my hometown. I moved to bigger and better places and have always found people willing to wait for me to reveal the content of my character. Some people don’t don’t like me, it’s never been becuase I am Indian.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pmYesterday Jonah Goldberg wrote that Jews were “oppressed.”
Enough said.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pmThe only people who would be bothered by such an honest and frank statement would be to those to whom it applies.
On the flip side, at least we taught you how to show proper respect for our country by capitalizing the A in America.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:33 pmOlby Sucks Says:
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tombaker-
http://www.michaelsavage.com/
February 18th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You sorry little speck of shit ; Michael WEINER ?
Get lost
February 18th, 2009 at 5:33 pmThanks Dummy – That’s another great example of how racism is far from gone.
(cha-ching)
February 18th, 2009 at 5:34 pmI have witnessed episodes of racism. The most blatant was the the local union 252 in Philly. They put all of the blacks in the laborers union. I was surprised, it really turned me off to the union, I left within the year. That was the only sanctioned racism I’ve ever seen. I understand it’s been rectified since.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:35 pmThank you Eric Holder for your courage.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:35 pmRacism is epidemic in America, we are only beginning to see its depths. The election of a non-white President is flushing all the race haters out of the woodwork.
I am Anglo, and a minority in my community and my workplace.
Racism works its insidious divisiveness wherever there is prejudice and bigotry.
We will see the end of racism in this great nation of ours, but it will be a painful exorcism.
*Grumbling* America is a whole continent, you know?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:35 pm/Pet peeve.
here’s #2
February 18th, 2009 at 5:35 pmhttp://www.aronimink.org/
Chambliss had a fundraiser here!! That’s fun…
more lame fiction drew?
imagine my surprise.
now take you lithium – it’s nap time in the solarium for patients in your ward.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:36 pmMCMetal. Obviously, we had a Democratic frontrunner for President (Hillary Clinton). She probably would have been President, if it weren’t for Obama. And Republicans ran a female for Vice President. And the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi.
I think Senator Inouye of Hawaii is oriental descent. Richardson is hispanic. As is, former attorney general Gonzales.
Here’s a twofer. former secretary of labor Elaine Chao. Oriental, woman.
The point is, by comparison, the record of U.S. domestic race relations, while we still have a way to go, isn’t horrible.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:36 pmOops.
Spoke to soon.
Oh well, there’s always the illiteracy defense.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:36 pmRight-wingers think no investment can be made in order to create opportunity. That is, investing in education, health care, infrastructure, addressing disparities, and helping anyone who wants to get up do so if they fall.
You can’t merely speak well of America; you have put in the work to make her a great country.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pmJonah Goldberg – isn’t he the son of the Goldberg who wired Linda Tripp – he’d never be anywhere if it weren’t for that.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pmdrew3rd Says: I am native american.
THIS week.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:37 pmdrew3rd Says:
Calling Americans cowards for creating an equitable nation that provides opportunity to everyone is counterproductive and shows Mr. Holder is a race baiter.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
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Ohhh, so racial and ethnic disparities are just a product of Eric Holder’s imagination, right? He’s just making it up, isn’t it?
Perhaps you should mention this to the Census Bureau, cause they were apparently also victims of an overactive imagination in their Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States report:
So about that “equitable nation” with “opportunity for everyone…”
February 18th, 2009 at 5:38 pmdid i mention how happy i am to see all you righty dudes in here all wound up and ravin’?
Yes we can!
You guys lost!
Get over it!
(cha-ching)
February 18th, 2009 at 5:38 pmWhen I didn’t turn out that way, I became a respected member of my hometown.
In Wasilla?
The bar seems set a bit low, if every non-drunk was automatically rated “respectable.”
February 18th, 2009 at 5:38 pmTo be fair: African americans: 13% of the population, 100% of the White House.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:40 pmWhen no one bats an eye at interracial marriage, I think we will have beaten racism.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:40 pmbackup Says:
The point is, by comparison, the record of U.S. domestic race relations, while we still have a way to go, isn’t horrible.
If you don’t consider just ONE incident of prejudice or other form of racism “horrible”, it becomes easier to justify TWO incidents, then THREE, then ….
February 18th, 2009 at 5:40 pmHas there been a black Japanese prime minister, black German chancellor, black French President?
Since when do you look for “our” reflection in the actions of others?
These “consequences” of the last election are palpable.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:40 pmBackup is right to point out how diverse we are. If you’re okay with a race baiter running the DoJ, I think you are a small, mean, person. Whatever trauma affected you as a child needs to be excorcised and got on with. America is not cowardly, it is not racist and it deserves the defense of reasonable people. Screaming, bogeyman, doesn’t make you hip or cool, it makes you marginal. Scream racism, soon no one will know what the word means when it actually shows up.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:40 pmYou stick around as part of this regional party, drew. Dwight Eisenhower would take a long piss on the modern-day GOP if he were alive.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:41 pmThat likely has something to do with the fact that most Americans haven’t seen too many blond haired blue eyed Indians named Drew.
:|
Give em time.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:42 pmdrew3rd Says:
Scream racism, soon no one will know what the word means when it actually shows up.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
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Yeah, you’re proof positive of this.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:43 pmbackup Says:
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MCMetal. Obviously, we had a Democratic frontrunner for President (Hillary Clinton). She probably would have been President, if it weren’t for Obama. And Republicans ran a female for Vice President. And the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi.
I think Senator Inouye of Hawaii is oriental descent. Richardson is hispanic. As is, former attorney general Gonzales.
Here’s a twofer. former secretary of labor Elaine Chao. Oriental, woman.
The point is, by comparison, the record of U.S. domestic race relations, while we still have a way to go, isn’t horrible.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
“Isn’t horrible” is not the same as claiming it doesn’t exist at all , which is drew(L)’s laughable contention …………
February 18th, 2009 at 5:43 pmJuan. I agree. But, is it cowardly? Is it somehow deficient in comparison to the rest of the world?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:43 pmMcWars Says:
The deep red states that held on to the GOP in the 2008 election have very little in opportunity: their populace is less educated, less healthy, fewer jobs are created and retained, and their workers are paid less.
And more domestic violence, alcoholism, children having babies, school dropouts, higher crime rates, incest (yes, incest). The GOP stronghold is a cesspool of backward thinking and male dominated cronyism.
Unfortunately for us, our trolls all seem to be from that area. Obama could do wonders for their neighborhoods, but they don’t want a black guy walking through their streets. Sucks to be them…
February 18th, 2009 at 5:44 pmDrew Logic:
Blame Black people for being slaves
Blame Black people for remembering history
Blame Democrats
America is great and has never done anything wrong
Except for black people
America has no racism since nov 04
The Magic Negro isn’t racist.
America is great cuz compare to irrelevant land B
we’re better
Did I miss anything?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:44 pmHmmmm, “small mean person” ay?
I think you’ve got them confused with Alberto Gonzales.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:44 pmI am glad I am not paranoid otherwise I would be harboring suspicions that the repugs have actually hired people who understand the Internet (since they don’t) to send out non sequitor trolls to harass and confuse non-repug websites.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:44 pmBarfly, you need to travel to the Navajo reservation. Then you will see why outsiders found us difficult to take. Was the bar low? Maybe, but I rose quite well. The point is, I didn’t listen to goofballs like you on the Res who said”the white stole my pride”. Even a s a young man it seemed to me that pride couldn’t be stolen, it was earned through hard work and success. I found America a very welcoming place from the start. That’s why I love her so much.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:45 pmYou guys can throw posts up here all day and all night.
Won’t change a thing.
But it will make MoveOn a lot of money.
Choice is yours.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:45 pmdrew i had no idea you were actually a Harlequin author.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:46 pmThe last time I checked, drew3, Holder is presiding over a weakened civil rights division. He’s right to bring up race in one of many addresses he’ll be giving as attorney general. I’m not bothered for a minute that he brings it up. Explain your view as to why it strikes a nerve so easily within the GOP.
In order for societies’ disadvantaged to enjoy freedom, the bigots need to be pushed out of the way.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:46 pmSo much that you spell her name in lower case every other post.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pmRat and Mac need to look at that again. The coasts and the north are failing. The middle of the country is humming along just fine. Doesn’t change the fact that the only racism I’ve witnessed in my life was in Philly, not Texas or Florida.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pmI work with Native Americans in the majority, followed by Hispanics, with Anglos in the minority.
The Hispanics think they are superior to Native Americans and treat them as second class citizens, they also feel the same towards Anglos, but are much less blatant about it.
The Native Americans keep their distance from the Hispanics, not trusting them, and expect Anglos to give them whatever they ask for, as Anglos owe them.
Both Hispanics and Native Americans hate the Negroes.
I realize there are many exceptions to what I have described, and I have witnessed these exceptions personally. Understand that I am speaking from my own experiences and observations only.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pmdrew3rd Says:
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Backup is right to point out how diverse we are. If you’re okay with a race baiter running the DoJ, I think you are a small, mean, person. Whatever trauma affected you as a child needs to be excorcised and got on with. America is not cowardly, it is not racist and it deserves the defense of reasonable people. Screaming, bogeyman, doesn’t make you hip or cool, it makes you marginal. Scream racism, soon no one will know what the word means when it actually shows up.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
I find it socially unconscionable , along with morally reprehensible , that those WHO ARE NOT BLACK , can speak so willingly and wantonly for those who are black ……..
That’s pretty sad.
You don’t see me speaking randomly about the plight of American Indians ; BECAUSE I AM NOT AMERICAN INDIAN.
Get it ?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pmdrew3rd Says:
I found America a very welcoming place from the start. That’s why I love her so much.
Unless you’re an immigrant looking for a way to sustain your family. Then, it’s all “these outsiders are stealing our jobs” and “send them back to their countries”.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pmsaying that as a country we’re reluctant to directly address issues of race makes you a “race-baiter”!?!?
what does that make Chris Rock, an “anarcho-syndicalist radical”??
talk about thin-skinned and hyper-sensitive.
MoveOn thanks you for your hissy fit.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pmdrew3rd has gone from globe trotter to Native American. backup is displaying bits of rationality. The new sexist troll is confining activities to posts the less rabid and offensive trolls are effective on.
Plz don’t tell me the repugs actually bought some sense.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pmI don’t see how disclosing your nationality justifies your apparent bigotry, drew3.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pm#40
Dude, let me give a little anecdote about segregation. A former white classmate from LA said this to me. I paraphrase,
“In the south we don’t care how close African Americans get as long as they don’t get uppity” In the North you don’t care how uppity they get as long as they don’t get close.”
You might pick up a book called “Sundown Towns” by Loewen and read it.
Let all that roll around in that empty head of yours for a bit.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pmdrew3rd Says:
Backup is right to point out how diverse we are.
Being diverse and being free of any and all racism are not equivalent.
If you’re okay with a race baiter running the DoJ, I think you are a small, mean, person. Whatever trauma affected you as a child needs to be excorcised and got on with.
Pointing to a problem is not “baiting”. If it was, wouldn’t it be fair to say that your are “baiting” in this screed. Or are you just masterbating?
America is not cowardly, it is not racist and it deserves the defense of reasonable people.
There are cowardly and racist people in this country. Reasonable people acknowledge that and demand equality, not platitudes and pollyanish pronouncements.
Screaming, bogeyman, doesn’t make you hip or cool, it makes you marginal. Scream racism, soon no one will know what the word means when it actually shows up.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:49 pmPutting your fingers in your ears, closing your eyes, and singing “la,la,la, I love America” doesn’t make you patriotic or of any benefit to race relations. It makes you ignorant of what reality is. It makes you complacent. It makes you part of the problem.
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Rat and Mac need to look at that again. The coasts and the north are failing. The middle of the country is humming along just fine. Doesn’t change the fact that the only racism I’ve witnessed in my life was in Philly, not Texas or Florida.
Another 180 degrees off true statement. Great imagination drew.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:49 pmhave witnessed episodes of racism. The most blatant was the the local union 252 in Philly. They put all of the blacks in the laborers union. I was surprised, it really turned me off to the union
February 18th, 2009 at 5:50 pm—-
Burning down half the city with that whole MOVE “incindiary device” sort of turned me off…
Well that’s because they have so much time for “humming” now that their jobs have gone away.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:50 pmCha-Ching, special boy.
Thanks for helping the cause of Liberal Progress.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:50 pmNevar, what you say has some credence. There is hierarchy amongst the Latino population. I don’t know about Native Americans and Latino’s hating blacks, I never saw that. The Latinos could upset the balance of tings as there is a pride problem among the people here in Texas. I am hopeful that like every minority that comes to this coutry they will see how much opportunity there is and let go of some of that old cultural stuff they carry from their home countries. Only America can suffuse these differences.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:51 pmNettles Says:
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Lost in all this race hoopla was a very important acknowledgement by AG Holder:
Even as we fight a war against terrorism, deal with the reality of electing an African-American as our president for the first time and deal with the other significant issues of the day, the need to confront our racial past — and our racial present, and to understand the history of African people in this country — endures,” he said.
He acknowledges that we are at “war against terrorism”.
Well Done, Mr Holder.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Which still doesn’t absolve your heroes in the Chimpy administration of their criminal behavior , nettles…….
February 18th, 2009 at 5:51 pmI wonder if those words mean what Jonah Goldberg thinks they mean? Seeing that they can be applied to virtually everything he says, maybe he thought he was complimenting Eric Holder.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:52 pmLuis M Says:
Unless you’re an immigrant looking for a way to sustain your family. Then, it’s all “these outsiders are stealing our jobs” and “send them back to their countries”.
The GOP loves to watch groups at the bottom of the totem pole fight for the few jobs their ideology can possibly create.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:53 pm“Yes we can hire lobbyists even though I said I wouldn’t!”
o-bomber
Oh goodie, we’re off topic…
now, Mr. Sucks, a question… how do supply-side solutions designed to stimulate ‘production’(i.e. tax breaks)we’ll debate the merits of this argument later alleviate a problem of over-supply? (i.e. new housing, new autos)
Shouldn’t the stimulus bill have contained fewer and not more of these wrong-headed ’solutions’?
You dodged it twice before… I was wondering if you’d answer me here…
February 18th, 2009 at 5:53 pmOlby Sucks Says:
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Can we get some odds over here?
by dnotsobad
Odds are, you’re a flaming hypocrite.
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February 18th, 2009 at 5:53 pmLet’s talk made up guy of a thousand names…
CA may be failing thanks to their Fictional Republican Governor, but they’ll be fine once they’re rid of him.
The rest of your stuff might as well have been pulled hannity’s ass, and I imagine it was.
CHA-CHINNNNNGGGG!!!!
February 18th, 2009 at 5:53 pmHe acknowledges that we are at “war against terrorism”.
Well Done, Mr Holder.
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February 18th, 2009 at 5:54 pmand drugs, and poverty, and fill in the blank…
:|
The credibility of your comment aside, I don’t think we call them “Negroes” anymore.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:54 pm“The middle of the country is humming along just fine.”
Hilarious. The middle of the country is always anywhere from 6 months to 6 years behind whatever is happening on the coasts, and the south is about 150 years behind.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:54 pmDrew – You check out that stormfront link yet?
Feeling a little, how should I say, cowardly about it??
February 18th, 2009 at 5:54 pmdrew3rd Says:
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Rat and Mac need to look at that again. The coasts and the north are failing. The middle of the country is humming along just fine. Doesn’t change the fact that the only racism I’ve witnessed in my life was in Philly, not Texas or Florida.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
When did I mention the coasts or the “heartland” , and when have I ever claimed that racism is relegated merely to location ?
Why do you continually misinterpret everything I post ?
Is that intentional or do you truly have reading and comprehension issues ?
February 18th, 2009 at 5:55 pmSorry, waynebro, African Americans.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:56 pmSincerely.
I was using the kinder version of what they are commonly referred to by the others mentioned.
Fine Nevar, Texas is in Good shape, and since it is as big as the coasts we’ll use it to measure up.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:57 pmdrew3rd Says:
The coasts and the north are failing. The middle of the country is humming along just fine.
OK, that’s it. drew3rd is engaging in his own baiting. Here in Ohio, the “heart of it all” we are definitely NOT “humming along just fine”. There are almost weekly reports of major layoffs and cutbacks. Houses aren’t selling. Cars aren’t selling. Schools are financially crashing and burning. Local governments can’t make payroll or continue to afford to provide basic services.
I’m done with drew3rd, who never responded to any of my points to him anyway.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:58 pmTom dtormfront is anecdotal evidence and you know it. Like Obama said, he won. That proves that America is not racist.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:59 pmPatriotic, Ohio is the North.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:59 pmlame argument. you’d get a D in my PHI 101 class.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:00 pmNext time I’ll say Upper Midwest. You guys are supposed to be so laid back. It’s why you make such great factory workers.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:00 pmYou wouldn’t know it to hear them talk.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:01 pmBaker, you do not teach Philosophy. You are so bad at it.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:01 pmTom dtormfront is anecdotal evidence and you know it.
Huh, like ‘I went to women’s play in Japan and they were WAY more SEXIST and RACIST there than here…’
Anecdotal like that?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:01 pmand you know it.
Cha-Ching – another thank-you from MoveOn for Drewski!!
February 18th, 2009 at 6:01 pmdrew3rd Says:
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Tom dtormfront is anecdotal evidence and you know it. Like Obama said, he won. That proves that America is not racist.
February 18th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
57 MILLION VOTED AGAINST HIM ; and that , after 8 years of perhaps the worst presidency in US history.
What was that based upon ? Policy issues ?
Get a clue………….
February 18th, 2009 at 6:01 pmdrew3rd Says:
Patriotic, Ohio is the North.
Sure, if you are an arrogant Southerner. It’s the same as I heard from NY City natives when I lived in Western NY. Those from “the city”, said I live “upstate”.
You are apparently only here to argue. Put a sock on each hand and have at it.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:01 pmdrew3rd Says:
Next time I’ll say Upper Midwest. You guys are supposed to be so laid back. It’s why you make such great factory workers.
Not anymore, thanks to the Bush recession! No more laid back, now they’re laid off.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:02 pmyes I do – I’m the first Asian Transgendered faculty member at Princeton, where I am a Professor of Philosophy.
(you’re not the only one who can make it all up as you go along drew – this ain’t a jr. high book club)
February 18th, 2009 at 6:03 pmSo you’re a glass half empty type? Sorry, I like America. I think it is always moving and changing, but, Americans are good people and the idea that there is some blatant racism going on is silly.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:03 pmWell gee, that’s mighty white of you.
Using the “kinder” version of the word and all.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:03 pmPatriotic, I’m considering a move to Buffalo. I would love to get your opinion of the place. Is it unbelievably racist?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:05 pmYou’re slipping.
A minute ago you loved it.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:06 pmPLC – Drew’s just another one of those nickel-a-post hacks.
Another day, another couple bucks for him and another couple hundred dollars for MoveOn.
cha-ching
d-d-d-d-duhhhhh, i’m lovin it! (there drew, i threw in a McD’s reference for ya)
February 18th, 2009 at 6:06 pmbackup Says:
African-americans: 13% of the population, 1% of the Senate.
To be fair: African americans: 13% of the population, 100% of the White House.
For 1/59th of the nation’s history…
And Drew, I’ve hitchhiked through Arizona, New Mexico, and through the Crow nation. I’ve seen the brightly-lit businesses that line the interstate, and the shabby shacks that are behind them. I’ve also seen the trashed government housing on the Crow res, and the junked cars that fill each yard. These things aren’t new to me. I also was a carny, and traveled extensively through the west; saw all the sights, including Canadian Sioux women so poor, they tried to get jobs with the carnival, to escape their plights, even though it meant being used for sex, as well as for the staggering amounts of labor necessary to get the carnival going, and to keep it running.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:06 pmuh, drew. Do you consider a white man killing a black man by dragging him behind his truck, racism?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:07 pmBoy is that ever right. We do not discuss race as individuals or as a society. We are afraid. And there is the possible anger that comes from discussing. We never will either. No one wants to face racism. And it is not simply white racism. There is black racism too.
In a country where civilized discourse is now dead, and the savage talk is now the norm, I don’t look for it to change anytime soon. We are cowards.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:07 pmSorry WayneBro, I don’t want you confused litle fella. I LOVE AMERICA.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:07 pmWait- drew3rd… I’d still love to get your opinion of ‘anecdotal’ evidence and it’s place in this discussion…
February 18th, 2009 at 6:07 pmwho doesn’t, Drew. other than the strawmen in your basement?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:08 pmThe Latinos could upset the balance of tings as there is a pride problem among the people here in Texas.
Obsessive talk of a race war falls under the category of racism, drewy. You quickly canceled your claim that no bigotry exists in Texas, an argument you based on supposedly never witnessing such bigotry in person.
And FLORIDA!? Don’t get me started on that dump of sex offenders.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:08 pmdrew3rd Says:
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So you’re a glass half empty type? Sorry, I like America. I think it is always moving and changing, but, Americans are good people and the idea that there is some blatant racism going on is silly.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Kidding yourself and being in absolute denial doesn’t further your argument , just in case you were wondering ……….As well as your constant mentioning of your (phony) patriotism
February 18th, 2009 at 6:08 pmWAYNEBRO Says:
“Well gee, that’s mighty white of you.
Using the “kinder” version of the word and all.”
I’m sorry you have missed my point, as well as my perspective.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:10 pmYour comments towards me have a racist overtone, by the way.
Nettles Says:
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dbadass Says:
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He acknowledges that we are at “war against terrorism”.
Well Done, Mr Holder.
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and drugs, and poverty, and fill in the blank…
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I just quoted off of the speech’s transcript, DB. No mention of a war on poverty or drugs, but he speaks plainly of a war on terrorism.
Funny how TP left out the part about the war against terrorism when they cherry-picked Holder’s quotes.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
See any quote(s) by Holder that torture is legal and acceptable ?
Neither do I ; then why did you always excuse-make for Chimpy and CO’s illegal behavior ?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:10 pmBarfly, you know what life is like on the res. That’s why escape is so important. My family wouldn’t think of living on the res. I liken it to the inner city for Native Americans. The people just get stuck in a rut hoping that the government will keep sending those checks even though it means living like a sub-human. I split that scene. Some called me a sellout to the white man. I called it getting a life.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:10 pmI LOVE AMERICA.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:10 pm—
So do I. Costa Rica, Mexico, Belize, and Canada rock!
WayneBro lacks common sense Nevar. Don’t let your white guilt get to you. We all know you didn’t mean anything by it.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:11 pmWell gee thanks.
But that will be a better sell if you can remember to capitalize her name more often.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:11 pmYeah, try living there Dbad. You can’t even flush your toilet paper.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:12 pmdrew3rd Says:
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Barfly, you know what life is like on the res. That’s why escape is so important. My family wouldn’t think of living on the res. I liken it to the inner city for Native Americans. The people just get stuck in a rut hoping that the government will keep sending those checks even though it means living like a sub-human. I split that scene. Some called me a sellout to the white man. I called it getting a life.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Yeah , you’re a real fu(king American hero , GI Joke …….
Surprised Chimpy didn’t present you with a Medal Of Freedom long ago …….
February 18th, 2009 at 6:12 pm265:
February 18th, 2009 at 6:12 pmWhat a lovely tale. So now let’s fill in the details with evidences of your rise to upper income I just want more money “success”
I am over 50, and I grew up in the South. I always lived in multi-cultural neighborhoods – always. As a child, I had Asian Neighbors, Hispanic Neighbors and Black Neighbors. All the kids played and did everything together. It wasn’t until adults tried to tell us that we shouldn’t get along did we have any problems and I don’t mean our parents. We could walk to a local park and there were enough of us that we had our own baseball team. When we tried to join a park commission league, we were not allowed because we had ‘coloreds’ on our team. Because public schools were still segregated, we couldn’t go to the same school. It was so stupid and we kids vowed that things wouldn’t be that way when we grew up. I think that we’ve come a long way but we still have a ways to go. But for the AG to completely and totally ignore the progress that has been made, I think his comments are the insulting and insensitive ones.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:12 pmOh my bad.
I wasn’t aware there was a perspective to your “point”.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:12 pmYou go mouth. Finally someone is speaking my language.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:13 pmdrew3rd Says:
Backup is right to point out how diverse we are. If you’re okay with a race baiter running the DoJ, I think you are a small, mean, person. Whatever trauma affected you as a child needs to be excorcised and got on with. America is not cowardly, it is not racist and it deserves the defense of reasonable people. Screaming, bogeyman, doesn’t make you hip or cool, it makes you marginal. Scream racism, soon no one will know what the word means when it actually shows up.
Either you’re in deep denial or you really haven’t been paying attention. And calling Holder a “race baiter” doesn’t make him one.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:13 pmdrew3rd Says:
Don’t let your white guilt get to you.
LOL… thanks dude, it’s such a Burden, you know…
February 18th, 2009 at 6:13 pm;)
Drew – if you feel this passionately about Mr. Holder’s remarks, why don’t you and your pals here get together, and get a rope, and head on down to D.C……
Seems like the only logical conclusion to the tangent you’re on. Be courageous – cut to the chase – fight for your deeply-felt love of country and boundless self-righteousness.
You’ll show that bad, old race-baiter who’s boss, wontcha??
February 18th, 2009 at 6:14 pmYeah, try living there Dbad. You can’t even flush your toilet paper.
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February 18th, 2009 at 6:14 pmI have lived and or visited all of them. Now about that reservation…
another few posts and drew will be an Ashkenazi Jew, Polish immigrant, Chinese slave and whatever else it takes to sell his game.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:14 pmWayneBlo, get off your high horse. Your acting like a prancing little fairy. LET IT GO!!!
February 18th, 2009 at 6:15 pm“. But for the AG to completely and totally ignore the progress that has been made, I think his comments are the insulting and insensitive ones.”
When did he do that?
Show me the transcript.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:15 pmDo you love America more than you did eight years ago, troll? Are you enamored at starving her into the shape of a Popsicle stick?
It’s pointless to tell America that you love her when you’ve been beating her for the last eight years.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:15 pmReally?
Well gee, can’t have that.
Lets take another look at what you said again.
Hmmm, which one of us are you stating was saying the racist stuff again?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:16 pmWAYNEBRO Says: I wasn’t aware there was a perspective to your “point”.
That much was obvious.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:17 pmMouth of the South Says:
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I am over 50, and I grew up in the South. I always lived in multi-cultural neighborhoods – always. As a child, I had Asian Neighbors, Hispanic Neighbors and Black Neighbors. All the kids played and did everything together. It wasn’t until adults tried to tell us that we shouldn’t get along did we have any problems and I don’t mean our parents. We could walk to a local park and there were enough of us that we had our own baseball team. When we tried to join a park commission league, we were not allowed because we had ‘coloreds’ on our team. Because public schools were still segregated, we couldn’t go to the same school. It was so stupid and we kids vowed that things wouldn’t be that way when we grew up. I think that we’ve come a long way but we still have a ways to go. But for the AG to completely and totally ignore the progress that has been made, I think his comments are the insulting and insensitive ones.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
So you , a white individual , have a more accurate and reasonable assessment of race relations as far as black-white integration and racial matters are concerned , than an educated black man ?
What the hell planet are you people from , and why have you come to mine ??????????
February 18th, 2009 at 6:17 pmWell if you’ve spent as much time as you claim, you would know that there aren’t toilets or sewer systems that can handle toilet paper South of our border. In Costa Rica, there are only flushing toilets where the tiourists stay and you certainly don’t drink from the tap. People live in cardboard and tin shelters and subsist on very little. Just a few more reasons I’m glad to be an American
February 18th, 2009 at 6:18 pm“What the hell planet are you people from , and why have you come to mine ??????????”
They call it “Planet Jingo”
February 18th, 2009 at 6:19 pmdrew3rd Says:
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You go mouth. Finally someone is speaking my language.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Invite Chimpy and you 3 can have a meeting of the mindless ……
February 18th, 2009 at 6:19 pmOh, Mr. Sucks… 50 post and no answer to #226… :(
February 18th, 2009 at 6:19 pmSad… and no answer any of the other times I’ve asked it… I’m beginning to suspect you aren’t as interested in ‘discussion’ as you say you are…
drew3rd Says:
Rat and Mac need to look at that again. The coasts and the north are failing. The middle of the country is humming along just fine. Doesn’t change the fact that the only racism I’ve witnessed in my life was in Philly, not Texas or Florida.
So the only “racism” drew has ever witnessed was when a labor union was top-heavy with Blacks. The only “racism” drew has ever acknowledged is black-on-white. If this isn’t a perfect example of blindness to reality, I don’t know what is.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:19 pmThat sounds like an issue for your travel agent.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:21 pmI offered a simple observation, waynebro. From my personal observations. It is not a racist comment, no more than Eric Holder saying that America is a nation of cowards with regards to race.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:21 pmAn objective observation is necessary to recognize social imbalances. And hopefully heal from them.
I’m sorry, Gummitch, was Holder speaking of the strain between Taiwan and China. who do YOU think he was speaking about? Russians and Jews? Go home, your gonna get hurt here.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:22 pmNo Blo, it is more proof that America is the greatest country in the world.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:24 pmdrew3rd Says:
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Well if you’ve spent as much time as you claim, you would know that there aren’t toilets or sewer systems that can handle toilet paper South of our border. In Costa Rica, there are only flushing toilets where the tiourists stay and you certainly don’t drink from the tap. People live in cardboard and tin shelters and subsist on very little. Just a few more reasons I’m glad to be an American
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February 18th, 2009 at 6:24 pmdrew3rd is clearly insane and has never crossed the Spittle County line. I suppose folks in Africa wear loin clothes, live in huts, and throw spears. BTW drew anyone that lives in the Americas is an American…
The simplest even.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:25 pmNevar, forget Blo, he’s a functional illiterate. Why do you care so much what he says? Blo him off.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:25 pmNo Blo, it is more proof that America is the greatest country in the world.
Okay, if we agree to your premise will you then confront the racism in America, greatest country in the world?
’cause that’s all Holder is asking us to do here…
You still won’t?!?!
Coward…
February 18th, 2009 at 6:26 pmSorry Dbad, I thought I was converisng with people who could follow basic principles. Maybe you should take a break. Not being able to follow puts you at a major disadvantage when discussing important issues like a race baiting head of the DoJ.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:26 pmdrew3rd Says:
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No Blo, it is more proof that America is the greatest country in the world.
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February 18th, 2009 at 6:26 pmShow me the map which identifies a country called America. Maybe that beauty queen was right about the need for more maps. Didn’t you start out this day telling everyone how much brighter you were?
drew, you are getting to be a nifty little 5th columnist. Get inside, divide and conquer. Someone has coached you well. Or bought you. Getting Nevar and Waynebro to bicker is quite an accomplishment.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:27 pmFolks, go back over his posts, he’s baiting everyone.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:27 pm“Citizens of Planet Jingo – we come in peace, to thank you for driving so much donor money our way”
-The Earthlings from MoveOn
February 18th, 2009 at 6:27 pmIt’s my nature drew, wanting to understand. There is no knowledge without understanding.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:28 pmAll I understand so far is that he has a raw nerve somewhere regarding race relations. Don’t even know where he’s coming from, indicating fear of something…
I agree with Holder. For far too long, blacks and Mexicans have been cowardly, refusing to acknowledge their own racism, refusing to acknowledge that European-Americans ended slavery before any other modern country, and European-Americans have built the most tolerant, most generous, most inclusive society in human history. Instead of expressing gratitude, they retreat to the cowardice of their own racist bigotry. As part of Black History Month, let’s examine the cold-blooded regimes of today’s Africa, where Europeans are hunted down and their property stolen, where cannibalism, rape and slavery are still used as instruments of government oppression. Let’s look at the outrageous levels of crime that blacks commit against european-americans. Let’s look at the un-COnstitutional preferential treatment programs that permeate American society and that have apparently done nothing to improve the lot of blacks. European-Americans hsould be indebted to Eric Holder for his statements, because they illustrate the futility of an appeasement approach to the race-baiting liberal fascists of the Democrat party. It is clear that Obama is wasting no time in promoting race war and anti-European genocide as part of his illegitimate regime.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:29 pmdrew3rd Says:
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Nevar, forget Blo, he’s a functional illiterate. Why do you care so much what he says? Blo him off.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
YOU , OF ALL PEOPLE , IS TRYING TO CLAIM SOMEONE IS ILLITERATE ?
Are you joking ?
You have repeatedly misinterpreted , misrepresented and even OUTRIGHT LIED in response to any number of my posts .
You really are a pathetic specimen ……….
February 18th, 2009 at 6:29 pmbelac, there is no racism in America. There are some racists, but the idea that America, as in the American people, need to confront racism is preposterous for the head of the DoJ. First of all, it isn’t illegal. If there were racism, The DoJ would have nothing to do with it. Good people would have to shout it down. Something that has been done and is being done today. That’s why racism in America is all but eradicated.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:30 pmI wasn’t aware that tossing out a few one liners constituted “bickering”.
:|
Who’dvethunkit?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:30 pmdrew3rd Says:
I’m sorry, Gummitch, was Holder speaking of the strain between Taiwan and China. who do YOU think he was speaking about? Russians and Jews? Go home, your gonna get hurt here.
Can someone render this into English?
Holder was speaking about racial relations in the US, drew. And, seriously, your condescension is hysterically funny.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:30 pmdrew is from Texas, Hoodathunk…
;)
oops, I may have made a statist comment….
February 18th, 2009 at 6:30 pmThe only coward around here is Holder. Unless of course it has to do with Mark Rich or his wife writing a check.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:31 pmDrew! One more time!
Do you think a white man killing a black man by dragging him behind a truck is racism?
do you?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:31 pmFolks, go back over his posts, he’s baiting everyone.
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February 18th, 2009 at 6:31 pmI am a fisherman. I control the bait and never touch anyone elses
Well you keep wanting long enough and maybe some day you will.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pmSomeday nevar comes bro…
February 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pmI’m trying to get Nevar to stop trying to appease Wayneblo. I’ve got nothing to do with their bickering.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pmNevar Says:
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drew is from Texas, Hoodathunk…
;)
oops, I may have made a statist comment….
February 18th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
There’s a place on Mars called “Texas” ?
Interesting …………
February 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pmA toast to my wingnut friends! It is now happy hour for me, and I thank you all for your tortured, credulous screedery.
Not only is it a joy to know your panties are uncomfortably bunched, it really feels good to have given as much as I have to worthy causes over the last couple days, thanks to your diligent efforts.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pmWhich reservation was that drew3rd? Come on yours is such a rags to riches Horatio Alger story….
February 18th, 2009 at 6:33 pmThe liberal fascists of the Democrat party are the world’s biggest racists.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:34 pmAplz, I think it is murder. If he did it because the man was black then he is a racist. Do the American people share the blame? Of course not.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:34 pmIt’s all your fault drew.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:34 pmKhamron Says:
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The only coward around here is Holder. Unless of course it has to do with Mark Rich or his wife writing a check.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Claims a backer of those who outed an undercover CIA agent for retribution purposes………..
Yeah , that shows real “toughness”……..
February 18th, 2009 at 6:34 pm@311 we have a new volunteer – how very exciting!! welcome, mr. khanram!! thanks for pitching in to make MoveOn the wealthiest little activist group in the USA!!!
February 18th, 2009 at 6:34 pmHmm…
belac, there is no racism in America.
I would say you’re wrong here, based on my own anecdotal evidence…
First of all, it isn’t illegal. If there were racism, The DoJ would have nothing to do with it
This is just factually wrong… boy, don’t know where to start on this one…
Good people would have to shout it down. Something that has been done and is being done today. That’s why racism in America is all but eradicated.
Wait, how does that square with this?
belac, there is no racism in America.
A complete circle in the space of one paragraph! You’re so scared you can’t even look up from chasing your own tail!
Coward.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:35 pmWould you like to know where that happened, drew?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:35 pmdrew is what they used to call an agent provocateur. Trolls are noted for single mindeness. Drew has shifted his story to fit the crowd. Fresh Blow and Mr. Suck get the crowd riled and drew slips in the knife.
His posts slip and slide, “Blo him off’ and sneak very nicely. The guy is a pro.
And Nevar, if drew is from Texas, I will make you the best pizza you ever tasted.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:35 pmI’ll give it a try. I speak a little jive.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:35 pm“Go home, you(re) gonna get hurt here” I think means, “quit picking on me I’m having a hard enough time keeping track of what I’m saying to the rest of the people”….or words to that effect.
doctorfixit Says:
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The liberal fascists of the Democrat party are the world’s biggest racists.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
As opposed to someone who was on the final ballot to head the RNC , and happened to belong to a “white only” country club ………….
February 18th, 2009 at 6:36 pmand @320 another!!!
I knew things would get exciting when I saw Mr. Holder’s comment.
Seventh Heaven, I tell ya!!!!
Cheers, wingnuts – my glass is raised in honor of your hysterical overreaction!!!!
Hissy on, brave ones!!!
CHA-CHINNNNNNNNG!!!
February 18th, 2009 at 6:36 pmexit drew, enter khamron. They are getting tricky.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:36 pmDbadass, I didn’t live on the res, I grew up near the res. My family is part Native American and we had to deal with the negative stereotypes that were created by folks from the res tearing stuff up on the weekends. I am part indian and I looked it when I was younger. Now people think I look Italian, go figure. My grandparents are the great ones. they left the res and refused to live off of thwe tribal money. they started farming and did quite well. My parents were entrepreneurs and taught us Martin Luther King’s Dream speech when I was young. My family broke out. That’s the important thing. People who live on the res are the same as crack addicts. the difference is a tribal check versus crack.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:37 pmAnd Nevar, if drew is from Texas, I will make you the best pizza you ever tasted.
Will it still be warm by the time it gets here?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:37 pmDrewL says: Most people do not like not becuase I am Native American…….
I would have to say they probably do not like you cause
1. Your an idiot
2. Your an a$$wipe
3. Your living in a different reality.
4. You are an attention whore.
5. You project terribly.
That should help you.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:37 pmp.s. – correction addressed to Mr. fixitperson:
we are communistosocialisticofascists!!!
learn it, know it, own it!!
February 18th, 2009 at 6:39 pmSo you , a white individual , have a more accurate and reasonable assessment of race relations as far as black-white integration and racial matters are concerned , than an educated black man ?
Here we have the time-worn liberal fascist argument: only a black person can talk about (white) racism. And this “well-educated” moron Holder womders why no one will talk to him about race?
And to answer the question, as a european-american, yes, I have a more accurate and reasonable assessment, because my brain is not addled with hate, as all liberal fascist brains are.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:39 pmthat’s the biggest batch of nonsense bs of the day mr. fixitperson.
$50 to MoveOn in honor of your hysteria!!!
Congratulations, and cheers, special friend!!!
February 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pmDo you think a white man killing a black man by dragging him behind a truck is racism?</em
The act of one person killing another is not automatically racism unless their is evidence to prove that racism was the motivation for the killing. For example, if a 500 lb JDAM is dropped on two Al Queda members in Afghanistan, does it automatically make it racism if the pilot was white? What if the pilot is black? What if it was a Predator drone and it was a hellfire missle fired from Texas via remote control?
You see racism is not always the underlying cause of murder. Despite attempts to make it so. If there is credible evidence that it was racism, then in Texas and Oklahoma, we have taken positive steps to shorten the time that maggots sit on death row. ‘Hate Crimes’ is a ridiculous classification. If you kill someone here, then you get the needle. Simple as that.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:41 pmRandom, have you come to run and duck again? I can see by your post that you are a psychologist. I’m not, but I can tell you are a coward. Now befiore you get mad, you need to explain your position on Holder’s cowardly Americans comment.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:41 pmdoctorfixit Says:
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The liberal fascists of the Democrat party are the world’s biggest racists.
I agree. drew3rd, U DA MAN
February 18th, 2009 at 6:41 pmKhamron, I like the way you think.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:42 pmdoctorfixit Says:
And to answer the question, as a european-american, yes, I have a more accurate and reasonable assessment
wait for it…
because my brain is not addled with hate, as all liberal fascist brains are.
Whatcha get the Doctorate in? Doesn’t seem to have been in logic or critical thinking…
Tee hee, you’re so funny!
February 18th, 2009 at 6:42 pmSo you’re claim to racist persecution is that the American Indians were picking on you?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:43 pmdrew3rd Sez:”…the difference is a tribal check versus crack.”
I understand drewturd now.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:43 pmWhadda ya know, waynebro, someday did come!
some of your brainiac pals are here now Drew – we’ll let you guys yuk it up together while we tally the donations.
have fun – sounds like you guys will have all kinds of highbrow dialogue to engage in.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:43 pmRight-wingers think no investment can be made in order to create opportunity. That is, investing in education, health care, infrastructure, addressing disparities, and helping anyone who wants to get up do so if they fall
Another lib-fascist idea: governemnt spending as “investment”, as in building a bonfire with the money is an “investment” in heating. You want to make an “investment”? Use your own money.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:44 pmNevar, I’ll send it frozen. I’ll recommend cooking it on a grill but an oven will do. But watch the show here, drew is on a roll.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:45 pmno doctor – we’re usin’ yours – get used to the idea.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:45 pmDemocrats are the all-time world champions of racism.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:45 pmcha-ching!!
February 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pmWell guys, I have been posting all day. It’s time for me to get going. Remember, America really is the best country on the planet. It is not a racist country. It is also a huge problem to have the head of the DoJ calling Americans cowards and racists. It does not bode well for mister Holder’s tenure. You heard it here first. Call me the conscience of TP. Signing off.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pmDrew Sh$t4Brains. The last thing I need to do is explain anything to an idiot such as you.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pmS T F U
Khamron Says:
So motive and intent should no longer play any role in sentencing?
There are gonna be a whole lotta people who see their Manslaughter convictions bumped up to Murder who disagree with you there, Khamron…
February 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pmdrew3rd…
I think that your arguements are quite intriguing…
Most of the people on this website are from the east and west coast aren’t they?
(Thank God) – Can you say that here?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pmokey dokey, mr. drew.
thanks for the “story hour”
February 18th, 2009 at 6:46 pmIt was pretty rough for him.
When they played Cowboys and Indians Drew had to play the Buffalo.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:47 pmHolder called it like he saw it…more power to him. And anyone who thinks that by having a black president we have overcome racism needs serious therapy.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:47 pmGee, I wonder why Drew ignored my posts? DrFixIt, Khamron, could you explain that?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pmI’d wager that time has come and gone.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pmMost of the people on this website are from the east and west coast aren’t they?
(Thank God) – Can you say that here?
Are you referring to the disproportional share of tax revenue that you recieve from those ‘blue states’ on the East and West Coast there in the middle of the country?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pmdoctorfixit Says:
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So you , a white individual , have a more accurate and reasonable assessment of race relations as far as black-white integration and racial matters are concerned , than an educated black man ?
Here we have the time-worn liberal fascist argument: only a black person can talk about (white) racism. And this “well-educated” moron Holder womders why no one will talk to him about race?
And to answer the question, as a european-american, yes, I have a more accurate and reasonable assessment, because my brain is not addled with hate, as all liberal fascist brains are.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Perhaps
But you’re obviously ignorant and stupid enough to overlook that an anonymous blogger on an anonymous political internet site , and whose credentials (if they possess any to begin with) , cannot possibly be proven nor corroborated ; that puts kind of a damper on “credibility” , except to gullible , ignorant GOP nut huggers like yourself ………..
February 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pmhey doctor – are you all angry about all this???
’cause i hope so.
we’ll have someone from the UN come around tomorrow to pick up your ammo and assault weapons.
also, we’re going to “integrate” your neighborhood, so get ready for that.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pmshift-change at the troll plant – always a wonder to behold.
wave to the red-faced righties everybody – big smiles now!!!
February 18th, 2009 at 6:49 pmbelac…
Motive and intentions have everything to do with it. What makes race such a special motivational factor? Or sexual preference? Suppose a guy comes in and finds his wife sleeping with another man. He shoots the man and woman and kills them both. Is that any LESS heinous than a person getting killed because they are gay?
If a person ties a chain around a man and drags him for several miles resulting in his death, what makes the individuals race so important? Obviously, it was NOT a crime of passion because tying a chain to a truck and then around a person kind of takes time.
Use your head my man… don’t listen to your emotions.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:49 pmdoctorfixit Says:
Here we have the time-worn liberal fascist argument: only a black person can talk about (white) racism. And this “well-educated” moron Holder womders why no one will talk to him about race?
White people do not have the same experiences at black people, and it is people like you who refuse to listen — therefore, yes, someone like you can say nothing about racism because you don’t know what it means — and because you’ve completely closed your mind to any new information about it.
Ditto drew. “Racism doesn’t exist here, everything is perfect, and anyone who says otherwise is a race-baiter.”
Not only ignorance but stubborn and stupid ignorance.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:51 pmdoctorfixit Says:
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Democrats are the all-time world champions of racism.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Claims a willing and continued backer of the worst president in US history who allowed a mostly black area and populace inside the US to drown ……….
You’re as credible as a Drudge or Michael Savage Weiner headline , jerkoff……..
February 18th, 2009 at 6:52 pmweak tea Mr. khanrom.
use your own head, and leave others alone.
kisses from the gals at CodePink – they love the money I give them when you post.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:53 pmWell for starters I’d imagine the fact that they wouldn’t have done it had he been white.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:53 pmIf a person ties a chain around a man and drags him for several miles resulting in his death, what makes the individuals race so important?
Because then it is a Federal Crime… see, we’ve had this problem with crimes such as this going unpunished ’cause the local juries knew the ‘good ol’ boy’ who did it and they let him off… now legally, they used to get away with that all the time in the South and I know that such a strong advocate of Capitol Punishment (you said:If you kill someone here, then you get the needle. Simple as that.) would be opposed to a murdered getting off simply because he was the right race, right?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:54 pmdoubt it.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:54 pmtombaker… I don’t drink tea sonny.
Code Pink? I seen real hotties in that org one time. Maybe I could go to one of their rallies.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:54 pmbut you can go to CPAC and get bored stupid and “rock out” to Lee Greenwood.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pmI knew drew3rd lacked the stamina of Bartlebee. What a sissy.
February 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pmKhamron:
February 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pmEver looked at the percentage of people that live on the coasts globally. Your weird ass is in the way minority
Waynebro… if he killed him, it doesn’t matter. Dead is dead… and if he killed some dude by dragging him behind a truck. The needle awaits Lethario…
February 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pmWell thank you Matlock.
However, normally folks don’t drag people to death, peeling their skin slowly off until they’re dead without at least a inkling of dislike for the individual.
:|
Credit where credits due, you know?
February 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pmmore your speed.
(and only a couple of “coloreds” around – you’ll feel all safe and cozy)
February 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pmand if he killed some dude by dragging him behind a truck. The needle awaits Lethario…
ahh, but too often in the South, it didn’t…
February 18th, 2009 at 6:58 pmKhamron Says:
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Waynebro… if he killed him, it doesn’t matter. Dead is dead… and if he killed some dude by dragging him behind a truck. The needle awaits Lethario…
February 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Really , it doesn’t ?
Well you better inform the laws throughout the entire nation of that , seeing as how a distinction is ALWAYS made when it comes to murder , and if it was a moment of insanity or if it was planned and carried out in a diabolical manner …….
Man , you aren’t very bright ……….
February 18th, 2009 at 6:59 pmWhen a bunch of beer swilling sausage eating rednecks drag a black man behind their truck by a chain until he’s dead, I don’t think its too much of a stretch to acknowledge the racist element there.
Unless of course you’re a racist, beer swilling sausage eating redneck.
Then you might not want to acknowledge it.
February 18th, 2009 at 7:00 pmSo still no reservation eh drew3rd? You made that shit up didn’t you? Geez that is weak.
February 18th, 2009 at 7:00 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_v._Mitchell
Here’s one just for the trolls… even your hero Rehnquist recognized that ‘hate crimes’ deserve special status… use your head, read.
February 18th, 2009 at 7:02 pmThe only reservations this guys ever seen were at Applebee’s.
February 18th, 2009 at 7:04 pmWAYNEBRO Says:
When a bunch of beer swilling sausage eating
Hey! As a beer swilling sausage eating non-rednecks, I resent the implication. In fact, I’m going to go buy some beer sausages from the German deli right now!
February 18th, 2009 at 7:11 pmdrew is an apple.
February 18th, 2009 at 7:13 pmLol, I said “racist” beer swilling sausage eating rednecks.
You don’t think I’d have included myself in that equation do you?
Now, where’d I put that summer sausage?
February 18th, 2009 at 7:14 pmI just made a truly racist comment, waynebro, didn’t want it to slip by you…
February 18th, 2009 at 7:16 pmYou people are commenting even faster than I can read, and I read very fast!
Right on, Mr. Attorney General. And about damned time.
RIP Oscar Grant
February 18th, 2009 at 7:17 pmI see. Are we next going to pass laws that desegregate our personal lives? Will there be quotas on how many parties I need to attend with various ethnic groups? We probably also need a new government organization to figure out who needs to mingle with who and to enforce compliance. Heck, we could put all those unemployed folks to work keeping an eye on who is socializing with who. How about research money for mind control? That would be a lot more efficient.
I don’t get it. What does the justice department have to do with our private lives over the weekend?
February 18th, 2009 at 7:18 pmNevar Says:
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drew is an apple.
February 18th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
A rotten one ………..With a hollow core
February 18th, 2009 at 7:18 pmI don’t get it. What does the justice department have to do with our private lives over the weekend?
Nothing, (although to see the emphasis Bush’s DOJ put on prosecuting Pot and Porn charges you wouldn’t know it)
February 18th, 2009 at 7:24 pmunless you wanna be a violent racist over the weekend… that’s what we’ve been saying all along… keep up sieche.
Having an argument all by yourself aren’t you siche?
February 18th, 2009 at 7:26 pmDaryll- you’re a coward…
February 18th, 2009 at 7:28 pmAnd with Nevar stuck up his rump he doesn’t even need a worm.
February 18th, 2009 at 7:29 pmDaryll is silly
February 18th, 2009 at 7:44 pmWhat is a Whitey County Councilman?
:|
Is that like a Klansman?
February 18th, 2009 at 7:48 pmNext to Uncle Tom in the dictionary they have a picture of Daryll.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:25 pmSilly and dumb.
Ever heard of discrimination, Darryl? It’s a crime. The AG is our head crime fighter.
Got it?
Boy, they really grow them stupid in Whitey County.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:26 pmKilling somebody is a state crime. Hate crimes are a federal crime. Two trials for the stupidity of one.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:30 pm389 – short answer – No. You’ve completely misunderstood the whole thing. Take a nap.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:33 pmShayne Says:
Next to Uncle Tom in the dictionary they have a picture of Daryll.
She isn’t Black. Don’t put that shit on African-Americans.
;>
February 18th, 2009 at 10:31 pmThis is good news. Holder is basically stating we must talk about the past and present to move towards a better future.
>It’s a smart move.
>It’s a positive move.
>It’s a healing move.
>It’s a healthy move.
>>Good for All.<<
I have more confidence that AG Holder will apply his philosophy to chimpy and his gang.
BTW — I’m feeling that AG Holder is coming against some blatant institutional racism.
BBTW — President Obama talked about race like no other. Bravo, my man. Brav-thef0ck-O!
February 18th, 2009 at 10:50 pmI didn’t read through all of the comments, so if I’m repeating someone else’s comment, my apologies.
TP, coupla typos in the thread: “…in two many ways…” should be “in too many ways; and “…will leave the nation” should be “will lead the nation…”
Thank you.
February 19th, 2009 at 12:04 amHolder and Obama: a couple of cowards on racial matters.
Holder and Obama are a disgrace to black people.
Is Obama going to financially reward black Katrina victims for having been racially discriminated against by Bush?
Where is the money?
I don’t think Obama would have any problem, hypothetically, with slavery happening all over again.
Maybe one remembers that Kanye West said, “Bush doesn’t care about black people.”
We have uncovered something far more horrifying.
It is practically like Obama “doesn’t care about black people.” (And Obama is black.)
There are all sorts of personalities.
There actually are screwed up black people who secretly don’t like their own kind.
There may even be black lunatics or freaks who would fancy themselves prancing around wearing a KKK outfit or uniform with the swastika on it.
Maybe Obama even fantasizes about hanging black people by nooses.
I like black people.
Black people are cool!
Black people are great.
But now, white people don’t have to worry about Obama interfering with racial discrimination inflicted by white people against racial minorities while Obama is president of the United States.
It is practically just as bad as if the white supremacist at heart, George W. Bush, is still running the country.
For example, Bush murdered a black woman—Margie Schoedinger.
“One of those very least were George Bush’s personal complicity in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003. Determining the exact whereabouts and contacts of [then] president-elect George Bush on September 21 thru 22, 2003, should be entirely lacking in difficulty” (Leola McConnell (Nevada Progressive Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010). Retrieved November 29, 2008, from http://leolaforussenate.blogspot.com/2008/02/leola-mcconnell-for-us-senate.html).
Obama should have the guts to assemble workers from the FBI and/or one or more state attorney general offices and say something similar to the following:
“I, Obama, am the most powerful person in America now. Bush is no longer the president and thus no longer the most powerful person in America. I, Obama, am in control now. I, Obama, demand that the ultimate law-enforcement workers in this country investigate Bush and then proceed to have him locked away for life or executed for murdering the black woman—Margie Schoedinger. I, Obama, am black, and I find Bush’s murder of Margie Schoedinger to be personally offensive. I, Obama, feel it is once again like the time of slavery when white people killed black people with no sheriff, prosecutor, or court to stop it from happening or prosecute it. I, Obama, am not going to go around in the modern-day democracy feeling like a black slave of white people—especially while I am the president of the United States. I, Obama, want Bush brought down for murdering a black woman. I, Obama, want Bush brought down for racially discriminating against black people pursuant to Hurricane Katrina. I, Obama, am going to supply financial rewards to the black people who were harmed by Bush’s racial discrimination and who are still alive. I, Obama, am taken aback by Bush having been so evil in wrongfully causing the deaths of so many black people pursuant to his racist response relative to Hurricane Katrina. I, Obama, am going to take advantage of my time as a racial-minority president and not allow “Bush’s KKK-Neo-Nazi mentality” to rule over and oppress black people in America.”
Obama is not doing anything about Bush’s murder of Margie Schoedinger.
Obama has not given a penny to any black victims of Bush’s racial discrimination.
Obama needs to say: “I can change and act like a black person instead of disgracing myself all over the place!”
Obama needs to say: “Change—Yes I can!”
Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
February 19th, 2009 at 1:40 amB.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993
Goldberg is a pro wrestler, whether you call him Lucianne, Bernard or Jonah. Freedom of the press belongs to those who own the press.
February 19th, 2009 at 3:31 amWhat did Karl Rove debate in high school except commies and the race issue?
February 19th, 2009 at 4:00 amIt is amazing that Mr. Holder challenges Americans to talk more about race by calling them “cowards”. Why not really stimulate the discussion by calling them “honkies” or “crackers”? Right, let’s encourage civil discourse by starting with name calling. You don’t start building bridges with this kind of discourse, you continue to burn them. If there is a failure to adequately discuss race in this country, it is not borne of cowardice, but disgust.
February 19th, 2009 at 7:10 amHolder is right. The liberal fascists refuse to confront their own anti-european racism. They use racist terms like “white”, they stereotype all european-americans. Of course every european-american knows about racism – their own government hates them because of the color of their skin. A fringe minority of commu-nazi liberal bigots runs the country, and using their Hitler-style tactics in the media they run a relentless racist anti-european hate campaign. Liberalism is a hate crime we can no longer afford to tolerate. The only way we will ever wipe out racism in this country is to exterminate liberal fascism. The haters must go!
February 19th, 2009 at 10:41 amThe haters must go!
What time’s your bus, Dr.?
February 19th, 2009 at 10:47 amHolder is merely preparing the groundwork for Obama purging european-americans from all institutions, setting up internment camps, and beginning his Final Solution genocide against european-americans. It is clear from Obama’s connections with Ayers and Wright, the statements from his wife, and other actions that Obama intends to follow through on his promise to “get in the face” of european-americans. His release of al Qaeda members is another indication. Anyone who values freedom, regardless of skin color, should join the resistance. Because not only is Obama a racist tyrant in the vein of Mugabe, Pol Pt,and Idi Amin, he’s also a Muslim, which means that even black Baptists will be at risk fro mhis genocide programs.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:49 amA Democrat lecturing on racism is like a Muslim giving shaving lessons with a machete.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:51 amLiberalism is a hate crime we can no longer afford to tolerate.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:54 amRacist Democrat Pres. FDR refused to allow black soldiers to serve in the same units as european-american soldiers.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:55 amDrfixit sez:
Libs are crazy!!! They come into empty threads and spew hate to no one and refuse to talk about their inadequacies and fears… wait, that’s me, sorry all!
February 19th, 2009 at 11:16 amSad, but, true.
Well, the first part is right…
True? Not so much…
February 19th, 2009 at 11:17 amdoctorfixit Says:
WOW Doc, An absolute explosion of ignorance. I see your brainwashing and conditioning are coming along well. You do know that you are incredibly stupid dont you? Of course you do. That is why you just repeat stupidity you were told to believe because you KNOW you are too stupid to think for yourself. Thanks for the laughs. It might be cruel to laugh at ignorance as extreme as yours but I cant help it. Whenever you braindead, brainwashed zombies come in here and show just how stupid a human being can possibly be its fun to laugh at you. I know we should pity you for your obvious intellectual handicap but I cant work up any sympathy for anyone as bone ignorant as you obviously are. Keep up the good work the world needs laughs and as stupid as you are you CLEARLY are good for nothing else
February 19th, 2009 at 3:48 pmdoctorfixit Says: 407
Ya got it wrong of course. Anyone as stupid as you naturally would. It is that CONSERVATISM is a form of stupidity so virulent it is a mental disorder. We can afford it though, we will just laugh hysterically at your astonishing ignorance.
February 19th, 2009 at 3:50 pmMr. Philby Says:
sure someone as stupid as you would believe that. I mean its both bigoted AND stupid. The conservative daily double.
February 19th, 2009 at 3:51 pmdoctorfixit Says:
Holder is merely preparing the groundwork for Obama purging european-americans from all institutions, setting up internment camps, and beginning his Final Solution genocide against european-americans. It is clear from Obama’s connections with Ayers and Wright, the statements from his wife, and other actions that Obama intends to follow through on his promise to “get in the face” of european-americans. His release of al Qaeda members is another indication. Anyone who values freedom, regardless of skin color, should join the resistance. Because not only is Obama a racist tyrant in the vein of Mugabe, Pol Pt,and Idi Amin, he’s also a Muslim, which means that even black Baptists will be at risk fro mhis genocide programs.
Right, I think Hitler said something to that same effect about the Jews…how they were the greatest threat to Germany…
February 20th, 2009 at 8:03 amHERE’S A SYNOPSIS OF THE SO-CALLED PROGESS AMERICA HAS MADE TOWARD ELIMINITAING RACISM :
A) Modern Slavery 1442 Ghana (aka The Gold Coast )
to the Present (Media-Suppresed ) Slave Trade In Sudan
B) 1884 – 1885 : Fourteen European Nations , Turkey & America got together in Berlin , Germany (called The Berlin Conference). Here they divided up among themselves the riches of Black Africa ( Daniel 11:14).
* NAACP Lynchings Records / Tuskegee Institute Lynching Records
From the 1880s to 1940s : 4,700 + Black Africans were reported Lynched.
Sometimes crowds of 10,000 would gather to watch THE SHOW.
- (See “100 Years Of Lynching ” By Ralph Ginzburg
* The CONVICT LEASE SYSTEM – forced Blacks back into slavery by imprisoning them for refusing to work for some white man who were cheating them out of their wages
(Daniel 11:14) . .
C) March , 1957 – Ghana , West Africa became the 1st Black African Nation to declare its independence from the U.K. .
Kwame Nkrumah was their 1st President. Within a few years he was overthrown.
* This was followed by a host of other Black African countries declaring their independence. And being overthrown.
The Congo via Patrice Lumumba was overthrown by U.S. CIA backing (trouble-makers of the World).
* On the surface it looked like Black Africans were in charge, but who had control of the natural resources of the country (Daniel 11:14). DeBeers via Cecil Rhodes for one.
D) The phony CIVIL RIGHTS era : used a lot of well-meaning people (who sincerely wanted peace ) for public viewing , while America found some new NI**ERS to kill (In Asia). Using their Old Black African NI**ERS To Do The Job for The Bush Dynasty started by Prescott Bush and company.
F) RACE, RELIGION, AND RACISM – A lecture series by Apostle Dr. Frederick K.C. Price Jr. went in-depth for 76 Weeks ; pulling up the roots of Racism in American Society & The Church .
* During this Lecture Series, many Americans showed there true colors no matter what so-called race they were.
* 1990s – Besides infesting our Black Communities with Crack, America made a law for crack & a law for power cocaine. And they added the 3 strikes Life sentence . All designed to lock up more Black Africans. {The New Form Of Slavery )
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February 23rd, 2009 at 12:31 am