Santorum ignorantly refers to language of Qur’an as ‘Islamic.’
Santorum ignorantly refers to language of Qur’an as ‘Islamic.’
Yesterday, former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) delivered “a lecture on Islam” at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln. Santorum argued that the American public knows too little about the Islamic faith, and to prove his point, he asked the students whether they knew the difference between Sunnis and Shias. Only three audience members raised their hands. He continued:
Santorum said he believes Muslims’ religious views cannot be changed or altered, so Middle Easterners reject American, democratic ideals.
“A democracy could not exist because Mohammed already made the perfect law,” Santorum said. “The Quran is perfect just the way it is, that’s why it is only written in Islamic.”
As a self-anointed scholar of Islam, it’s surprising that Santorum would assert that the Qur’an is “written in Islamic.” It is, of course, originally written in Arabic. Islam is not a language, but rather a religion. Santorum concluded, “I think that if every citizen was fully informed about the war, it would create a commonality between faiths.” Indeed, much work remains to be done.
Topic Cloud
ArchivesBlog Roll
I forgot about this tool. Too much thorazine in the Santorium
February 18th, 2009 at 8:39 pmAnybody know the ‘Islamic’ words for Man and Dog?
February 18th, 2009 at 8:39 pmJust Duh!
February 18th, 2009 at 8:39 pmThese idjuts need to learn how to speak of things they are informed about.
Just keep phucking a dog. Ricky is dumb as a post and not afraid to show it.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:40 pmSantorum is not a person, but a fluid…
February 18th, 2009 at 8:41 pmMy santorum, having been felched out of my gaping anus, smells of fried feces and boiled vinegar.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:42 pmDidja ever have a teacher who was about an hour ahead of the class in the book?
February 18th, 2009 at 8:43 pmhe was once a rising
star in the republican party.
*
February 18th, 2009 at 8:45 pmewww, nasty, Santorum. I thought it had been locked up in Pa.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:46 pmi wondered what have become of ricky sanscrotum. irrelevency must suck, giving speeches at fifth tier schools.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:47 pmhe asked the students whether they knew the difference between Sunnis and Shias. Only three audience members raised their hands
– - And one of those raised hands belonged to Karen Hughes.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:48 pm“Santorum said he believes Muslims’ religious views cannot be changed or altered, so Middle Easterners reject American, democratic ideals.”
Then why the fcuk didn’t one of the three audience members ask him why he beat the drum “to spread democracy in the middle east” so loudly.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:50 pm“A democracy could not exist because Mohammed already made the perfect law,”
he must mean USA type democracy, but regardless – it took gazillions of dollars and lives to reach that conclusion…
February 18th, 2009 at 8:51 pmwhich thinking people already understood…
Rick’s religious views, on the other hand, are SO FLEXIBLE.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:52 pmHOW can wrong wrong wrong Neocon Clowns like this, MUCH LESS bodily fluids,
get any air time?
I lose it every time I hear that John Bolton even gets a radio audience or The Prince of Darkness Perles leaves his casket.
BEAUTIFUL however that Santorum got named and defined! ewwww
February 18th, 2009 at 8:54 pmEverytime I see this dweeb, I am reminded of Dan Savage. See post #5…
February 18th, 2009 at 8:54 pmnotice how the article doesn’t state how many students were in attendance. must have been a poorly attended flop.
February 18th, 2009 at 8:56 pmIf their views cannot be changed or altered, then why are their Shia and Sunni?
February 18th, 2009 at 8:58 pmI have an Islamic prophesy:
February 18th, 2009 at 9:02 pm” Signs of end of this world starts when Santorum begins to show the world his knowledge about Islam”.
What gives Santorum the expertise to lecture students about Islam ?!!!
I’m shocked…
I hope colleges are not paying money to this ignorant man to lecture about Islam.
In spite of volumes of literature on the subject, a vast majority of Muslims young and old are ignorant of Islamic history.”
February 18th, 2009 at 9:03 pm–
As if Christians have a clue about their own crap…
An Idiot Imaginary Latin King’s Guide to the Qur’an…
February 18th, 2009 at 9:07 pm“A democracy could not exist because Mohammed already made the perfect law,” Santorum said. “The Quran is perfect just the way it is, that’s why it is only written in Islamic.”
I guess that means the Bible is only written in christian?
Oy…
February 18th, 2009 at 9:07 pmThe University of Nebraska-Lincoln?
Is that like Lincoln Tech?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:09 pmOlby Sucks Says:
The Qur’an in Islam
__________
One can only wonder what point you think you’re making.
Did you know Islam follows the same line of prophets as Christians and Jews?
And that all three religions use the Pentatuch as their starting point?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:11 pm(Olby doesn’t understand the academic book title he found a link to either)
Hey Dummy.
First off, cha-ching, thanks for donating to liberal causes.
Second, the title you so eagerly linked up for us refers to the role of the book in the religion – it does not specify which language the book is written in.
And you wonder why I call you Dummy?
Run along, special boy, before CodePink and MoveOn have all the money.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:13 pmOlby “rejects the God of Abraham” too.
woops, dummy.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:15 pmrefuted, you are – and dumb, too.
cha-ching.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:17 pmRemember, PRick is a member of the fundie fringe of Christianity, the ones who created the myth of the Rapture, who believe that Jesus hated teh gay, the neocons who believe that only by uniting the state of Israel will we get Jesus, Part 2. You know, the “I can quote chapter and verse and interpret the meaning for ya” religious extremists.
He’s a moron. Truly. Luckily, his political life is over. Let’s hope he’s done breeding, too.
PEACE
February 18th, 2009 at 9:17 pmI refute that.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:17 pmI’m no hater – wanna make out?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:18 pm“think befour you poast, moran”
tee-hee
cha-ching
let’s make out Olby.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:18 pmSo I guess the old testament was written in Jewic and the new testament in Christianic?
And just who paid this idiot to lecture on a subject he knows little or nothing about?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:21 pmIn the interest of fund raising shall we discuss the ladies of Tenessee?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:22 pmWould that be the poster that links to shit which goes nowhere?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:26 pmOlby Sucks Says:
When haters, like yourself, can’t refute they resort to childish name calling.
_____________
Said the poster who chooses to call him or herself “Olby Sucks”…
Irony… it does a troll good!
February 18th, 2009 at 9:26 pmOlby,
February 18th, 2009 at 9:26 pmYour pathetic. FACT
He appears to be saying that we aren’t fighting terrorists, we’re fighting Muslims, and Muslims are a threat to “our way of life”.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:27 pmHardy – it was in Nebraska, so you gotta cut’em a little slack – they don’t even have chemistry classes in High School.
And I still want to know whether you’re the Hardy Haberman I know from Chicago circa ‘89-’90.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:28 pmName calling, Sucks?
So tell me, stud. Would you consider “dick smoker” to be name calling?
hypocrite!
February 18th, 2009 at 9:28 pmCome on Mr. Sucks let’s talk about that skank or would you rather discuss that Trajan man/boy love stuff?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:28 pmDummy, do those links mean you want to make out with me?
cha-ching.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:29 pmhuh? your confusion is contagious…
So, Sucks… you a hater?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pmYeah… “Olby Sucks” gotta point…
Beheading is worse… than walking into a church and shooting an unarmed woman at point blank range… a little… I guess…
But I’m not quite sure how it rates next to dropping white phosphorus on a civilian population and melting the skin off of babies’ faces.
How would you rate that, “Olby Sucks”?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:31 pmStop confusing him
February 18th, 2009 at 9:32 pmOlbeysuckshisowndick:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/multimedia/2008/02/gallery_abu_ghraib
February 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pmhttp://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9806E5DE173CF934A35756C0A9629C8B63
Since when has a lack of knowledge stopped any rethug from demonstrating his/her expertise of a subject?
It’s typical rethuglican hubris. Just think Coulter, O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Malkin, Hannity, Beck, McCaughey, and most recently, Bachman. And as we know, the list goes on and on.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:34 pmOlby Sucks Says:
and Muslims are a threat to “our way of life”.
by wiley
Are you saying they are not?
__________
This is too vague.
Are you talking about Mulims in general? All 1.5 BILLION of them?
Are you talking about the hard-core extremists?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:34 pmHow can Santorum lecture about Islam when he does not know what language Mohammad spoke,and what’s the language of the Qu’ran?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pmI doubt it that Santorum knows what the Shiite theology is based on and what makes one a shiite and one a Sunni Moslem when he asked students what’s the difference between a Shiite and a Sunni.
He is getting himslef into a subject that’s much much bigger than his capacity to comprehend or even to cover.
Olby Sucks Says:
“But I’m not quite sure how it rates next to dropping white phosphorus on a civilian population and melting the skin off of babies’ faces.”
o-bomber hasn’t done that, yet…………
no, but your boyking did use dirty bombs in iraq… http://www.rense.com/general64/du.htm
February 18th, 2009 at 9:36 pmThat’s the story of the dumb bastids life. sheesh.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:37 pmThis story is so, so sad.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:38 pmOlby Sucks Says:
“But I’m not quite sure how it rates next to dropping white phosphorus on a civilian population and melting the skin off of babies’ faces.”
___________
No… but the Botch Admin DID…
______________
Last Updated: Wednesday, 16 November 2005, 11:25 GMT
US used white phosphorus in Iraq
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4440664.stm
Heh… you’re so fond of links… there’s one for ya…
February 18th, 2009 at 9:38 pmOlby Sucks,
February 18th, 2009 at 9:38 pmWho do you think is more bizarre? You or Rick Santorum?
Santorum contiues to be a buffoon.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:38 pmso does Olby Sucks
February 18th, 2009 at 9:40 pmOlby Sucks Says:
Islam: Poll Finds Most British Muslims Hate The West
http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/002399.html
So what? You hate America too. You hate Obama, most of America likes Obama, therefore you hate America. Why don’t you go back to Russia?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:40 pmEric Cantor looks and acts a lot like Santorum. I am sure that he will go down the same way.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:43 pmOlby Sucks Says:
Islam: Poll Finds Most British Muslims Hate The West
__________________
June 22, 2006
A survey by the Washington based Pew Global Attitudes Project, described in the Guardian, Knight Ridder in Pioneer Press and the Fort Louis Dispatch has found that globally, countries are more opposed to America than ever. In Britain, for example in 2000, 83% held a favourable view of the States, but that has sunk now to 56%.
____________
Do you even read the links you post to, or do you just see a blurb that excites you?
Notice how that disapproval dropped from 83% in 2000, BEFORE Botch launched his self-professed bloody f-in’ crusade, down to just 56% in 2006, after the Toy Emperor had managed to kill prolly HUNDREDS of thousands of Iraqis, all in the name of democracy…
Ah… the smell of Freedom Fires in the morning air… reminds me of Victory!!!
February 18th, 2009 at 9:44 pmWhy do you think they hate the West?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:45 pmWorth Repeating
February 18th, 2009 at 9:45 pmOlby you are pathetic.
S T F U
RUCerious Says:
——————————————————————————–
Anybody know the ‘Islamic’ words for Man and Dog?
February 18th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Yeah …….It’s pronounced : S-A-N-T-O-R-U-M
February 18th, 2009 at 9:47 pmOlby Sucks Says:
Who here is a “weeper and fainter?”
___________
Other than yourself?
February 18th, 2009 at 9:48 pmYes, Olby. I’m saying they’re not.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:48 pmOlby Sucks Says:
——————————————————————————–
Islam: Poll Finds Most British Muslims Hate The West
http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/002399.html
February 18th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
The GOP : Most POLES Find Their Way Into Olby Sucks’ Stupid Ass
February 18th, 2009 at 9:48 pmNah. You were hoodwinked by a depraved ideology.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:50 pmI don’t hate obama. I think it’s funny that he was able to hoodwink so many people.
February 18th, 2009 at 9:52 pm-Olby Sucks
says the bush supporter…HAHAHAHAH!
Rick Sanitarium lecturing others on Islam is the intellectual equivalent of Bush rhapsodizing on about atom splitting ; not really a whole lot of background or accumulated knowledge there to rely on ……
February 18th, 2009 at 9:54 pmSantorum also doesn’t under the subjunctive tense. It’s “if every citizen were …” not “if every citizen was …”
February 18th, 2009 at 9:59 pmThe GOP : Most POLES Find Their Way Into Olby Sucks’ Stupid Ass
C’mon guys, even totally plastered, I never seem to reach this depth. Check any of my posts.
Hetero sex is just as funny. Why not keep it above the belt-line? We ain’t sex-starved republicans, so show some friggin’ couth.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:03 pmTom,
Yup same one!
February 18th, 2009 at 10:07 pmbarfly Says:
——————————————————————————–
The GOP : Most POLES Find Their Way Into Olby Sucks’ Stupid Ass
C’mon guys, even totally plastered, I never seem to reach this depth. Check any of my posts.
Hetero sex is just as funny. Why not keep it above the belt-line? We ain’t sex-starved republicans, so show some friggin’ couth.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
So , everyone should be like you ?
I must not have noticed the barfly = GOD of TP sign near your name and posts ………..
February 18th, 2009 at 10:09 pmDon’t you just love conservanazi idiots like Santorum?
February 18th, 2009 at 10:10 pmThe conservanazis have totally taken over the leadership of the republikans. I love it. The goofiest of the conservanazis are out spreading their PR message obviously dictated to them by the likes of Druggie limpblaugh. ;) Or even Michael Savage, the true blue wingnut conservanazi.
Does anyone know how many people were in attendance at this pathetic event? Republicans only know 2 things, fear and hate.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:14 pmAnd now I’ll post my first thought, which was, while we always play the caption game, Faiz is the undoubtable master.
The picture of pointy-fingered Santorum, coupled with “The Quran is perfect just the way it is, that’s why it is only written in Islamic.” is comic platinum.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:15 pmWoW!
Anyone wanna bet he hasn’t touch the Qur’an.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:16 pmSo, everyone should be like you ?
I must not have noticed the barfly = GOD of TP sign near your name and posts
Hey, if junior high is your forte’; don’t forget to tell us about his cooties, and how fat he is.
Really indulge yourself…
February 18th, 2009 at 10:17 pmbarfly Says:
——————————————————————————–
So, everyone should be like you ?
I must not have noticed the barfly = GOD of TP sign near your name and posts
Hey, if junior high is your forte’; don’t forget to tell us about his cooties, and how fat he is.
Really indulge yourself…
February 18th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Yes , because bragging about ingesting too much alcohol while simultaneously attempting to chastise others over “couth” sure screams unmatched “adult behavior” ……
February 18th, 2009 at 10:28 pmStop me if I’m wrong here, but don’t colleges and universities usually invite people to lecture who are actually schooled in the areas they are lecturing on?
February 18th, 2009 at 10:33 pmWhat Rick Sanitarium said here was equivalent to someone speaking on Judaism declaring “I speak Jewish“.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:35 pmHey, what happened to the guy who sucks?
February 18th, 2009 at 10:35 pmTom – Hardy
Hardy – Tom
Small World.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:35 pm6Degrees
The GOP : Most POLES Find Their Way Into Olby Sucks’ Stupid Ass
———————————————————
drew3rd Says:
WayneBlo, get off your high horse. Your acting like a prancing little fairy. LET IT GO!!!
I rest my case.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:36 pmBunch of posts are missing. Mr. Sucks must a gone Buhbye!
February 18th, 2009 at 10:37 pmShayne Says:
——————————————————————————–
Hey, what happened to the guy who sucks?
February 18th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Not to worry ; they will always be associated with the former administration …….
February 18th, 2009 at 10:38 pmand in the future?
Santorum ignorantly refers to elbow as his ass.
*
February 18th, 2009 at 10:39 pmbarfly Says:
——————————————————————————–
The GOP : Most POLES Find Their Way Into Olby Sucks’ Stupid Ass
———————————————————
drew3rd Says:
WayneBlo, get off your high horse. Your acting like a prancing little fairy. LET IT GO!!!
I rest my case.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
barfly Says:
——————————————————————————–
The GOP : Most POLES Find Their Way Into Olby Sucks’ Stupid Ass
C’mon guys, even totally plastered, I never seem to reach this depth. Check any of my posts.
Hetero sex is just as funny. Why not keep it above the belt-line? We ain’t sex-starved republicans, so show some friggin’ couth.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Now how about resting your holier-than-thou bullshit ?
February 18th, 2009 at 10:39 pmSo, McDrew, have any thoughts that originate above the sternum?
February 18th, 2009 at 10:40 pmSomeone say Sterno?
Great, going to have to slog through more LTDan crap.
Thanks
February 18th, 2009 at 10:44 pmI’m just tired of the gay innuendo.
Quit, and you won’t hear a peep from me.
Deal?
February 18th, 2009 at 10:45 pmbarfly Says:
——————————————————————————–
So, McDrew, have any thoughts that originate above the sternum?
February 18th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Not at the present moment , BarfBag …….Any half-empty bottles laying around you feel compelled to polish off ?
February 18th, 2009 at 10:45 pmOf course, the Bible is in Christianic. Except for the OT — that’s in Judaic.
I understand Berlitz offers crash courses in Islamic, Christianic, and Judaic for anyone who wants to read these texts. Also how to say “Santorum is a complete maroon” in all three languages.
Seriously (snark over), Santorum is onto something in that we truly need to understand faiths other than our own. It makes absolutely no sense to fight people and attempt to change the lives of other people without even bothering to understand the fundamentals of what they believe. And Santorum needs to learn a great deal more before he attempts to educate others.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:47 pmAnd no, I’m not gay. But I’ve had experience with them, and there’s no reason to bring them into any discussion that doesn’t directly affect or concern them. They ain’t so bad, and deserve the same respect as anyone, even an opinionated drunk like me.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:47 pmThat’s like saying that the bible was written in christianity. or that the constitution was written in freedom. aahh just another republican revealing his inner stupitude.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:48 pmRandomChaos Says:
Bunch of posts are missing. Mr. Sucks must a gone Buhbye!
February 18th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Which is why TP should start repalcing deleted comments with one of their own. They can say whatever they want like, “Stupid ignorant posted deleted by Admin”. Keep that phrase on the clipboard and use it often. But just deleting the comments, often long past time the damage was done, just screws up those comments that reference comment numbers.
TP, I appreciate that you excise the disgusting crap (and people) from the blog, but please do us a favor and leave the comment numbering intact. There are a couple of other threads with missing comments. It’s hard to follow the conversations when the comment numbers they reference aren’t the right ones.
Here’s a suggestion. Have someone who didn’t write the thread go through the comments and try to follow the comment number references. See how difficult it is when you come in later. Thank you.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:49 pmHardy!! well good to see ya (so to speak) – have seen some other posts from you in the past but never got a message through to you.
I used to work painting with Sean Peterson back then, and will never forget the pickup you painted highway-stripe yellow.
Hope all is well for you – doin’ ok myself out here in the NW.
Keep givin Righty hell.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:49 pmAny half-empty bottles laying around you feel compelled to polish off?
Just quit showcasing your innate hatred of gays, and we’ll be fine.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:50 pmRicky Sanitarium – the name says it all.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:50 pmbarfly Says:
I’m just tired of the gay innuendo.
Quit, and you won’t hear a peep from me.
Deal?
*
yeah but what about lisa lampanelli?
b*tch really gets my goat!
*
February 18th, 2009 at 10:52 pmbarfly Says:
——————————————————————————–
And no, I’m not gay. But I’ve had experience with them, and there’s no reason to bring them into any discussion that doesn’t directly affect or concern them. They ain’t so bad, and deserve the same respect as anyone, even an opinionated drunk like me.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
You need to sober up ………..I’m not a gay-basher ; nor can you point out any post I’ve ever written that is critical of gays or lesbians.
Closet gay Republicans who are gay bashers themselves ………………?
Hell , yeah…………………
February 18th, 2009 at 10:52 pmbarfly Says:
——————————————————————————–
Any half-empty bottles laying around you feel compelled to polish off?
Just quit showcasing your innate hatred of gays, and we’ll be fine.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Check my previous post you retarded drunk ; you’re embarrassing yourself ………
February 18th, 2009 at 10:52 pmsorry barfly,
wrong link,
try this one.
:(
February 18th, 2009 at 10:54 pmhuzzah everybody – looks like we blowed Olby up real good.
helluva a couple of days of trollery ’round here…
wow – like before the election.
Plus I run into some dude I knew 20 years ago.
F-in wow.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:55 pmb*tch really gets my goat!
Dice, in a dress (figuratively speaking, of course).
February 18th, 2009 at 10:55 pmMCMetal Says:
Check my previous post you retarded drunk ; you’re embarrassing yourself
By sounding… just like Drew?
Um, that was YOU, dude.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:57 pmI’m not a gay-basher ; nor can you point out any post I’ve ever written that is critical of gays or lesbians.
———————————————————–
The GOP : Most POLES Find Their Way Into Olby Sucks’ Stupid Ass
Do you really not understand the import of what you say?
Really?
Think, before posting again.
February 18th, 2009 at 11:00 pmbarfly, both Santorum and Sucks have said some pretty off the wall stuff about homosexuality, and homosexuals.
I personally think that the fact that Rick and his supporters are so completely nutz about same sex marriage and the whole being gay leads to bestiality tangent, that it sets them up for more than their share of ribbing.
Gay = bestiality? Come on, barfly… if you can’t take a poke at that, what’s a moonbat to do? It’s such a preposterous idea all around.
February 18th, 2009 at 11:00 pmbarfly Says:
——————————————————————————–
MCMetal Says:
Check my previous post you retarded drunk ; you’re embarrassing yourself
By sounding… just like Drew?
Um, that was YOU, dude.
February 18th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
According to whom ? Some drunken sot who believes in his own non-existent superiority and holier-than-thou bullshit ?
Here’s a better “deal” : How about you ignore my posts , and I won’t treat you like the complete assh0le you truly are ………….. OKAY ?
February 18th, 2009 at 11:02 pmalpuz3 Says:
barfly, both Santorum and Sucks have said some pretty off the wall stuff about homosexuality, and homosexuals.
And you’re using troll’s comments as justification?
Good night. You guys can have your fun. But what do you say when your gay granddaughter hears you cracking jokes like that?
Sorry?
February 18th, 2009 at 11:04 pmbarfly Says:
——————————————————————————–
I’m not a gay-basher ; nor can you point out any post I’ve ever written that is critical of gays or lesbians.
———————————————————–
The GOP : Most POLES Find Their Way Into Olby Sucks’ Stupid Ass
Do you really not understand the import of what you say?
Really?
Think, before posting again.
February 18th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
The GOP is replete with closeted gays who are gay bashers themselves :
You need to sober up ………..I’m not a gay-basher ; nor can you point out any post I’ve ever written that is critical of gays or lesbians.
Closet gay Republicans who are gay bashers themselves ………………?
Hell , yeah…………………
February 18th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
How “convenient” for you to leave out my entire statement.If you need it explained , just ask ; I can tell you are someone who struggles with plenty of things , with reading and comprehension being high up on that list ……..
February 18th, 2009 at 11:06 pmbarfly Says:
——————————————————————————–
alpuz3 Says:
barfly, both Santorum and Sucks have said some pretty off the wall stuff about homosexuality, and homosexuals.
And you’re using troll’s comments as justification?
Good night. You guys can have your fun. But what do you say when your gay granddaughter hears you cracking jokes like that?
Sorry?
February 18th, 2009 at 11:04 pm ——————————————————————————–
I’ll show her your posts and she’ll understand immediately …….
And she won’t ever need worry about her feeling in any way “inferior” ; unlike what you attempt to do to others here , even though you’re an unrelenting drunken slob with a warped self-view and self-worth …..
Congrats.
February 18th, 2009 at 11:09 pmLast comment. This is an anti-gay statement:
The GOP : Most POLES Find Their Way Into Olby Sucks’ Stupid Ass
I’m drunk, and you’re…
A closeted homophobe, or simply an adolescent intellect.
Adios.
February 18th, 2009 at 11:12 pmI’m not using trolls comments as justification. I’m trying to explain to you that anyone who takes such an absurd position on an issue they seemingly know little about, should have it thrown straight back into their face.
How do you know my granddaughter isn’t gay? How do I know my granddaughter isn’t gay? Why would I care if she was gay? What does it matter?
As long as dipsh*ts like Rick and Sucks aren’t equating her relationship w/ someone who mounts an animal for sexual gratification I have no problem w/ the situation.
It’s when they do, that I will throw their own insecurities right smack back into their face.
I’m not going to pull the old my good friend was gay card, barfly… but I will pull the you’re misplacing your anger one.
February 18th, 2009 at 11:15 pmBadmoodman Says:
he asked the students whether they knew the difference between Sunnis and Shias. Only three audience members raised their hands
- – And one of those raised hands belonged to Karen Hughes.
They only had 10 people in the audience.
February 18th, 2009 at 11:17 pmbarfly Says:
——————————————————————————–
February 18th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
I’m certain science journals are absolutely overflowing with info on how truly accurate the perception of a drunk is ; especially when it comes to reading and comprehension , and while on an internet political blog site……….
Get lost , you arrogant d0uchebag ………
February 18th, 2009 at 11:19 pmAnd the Bible is written in Christian.
February 18th, 2009 at 11:20 pmWhy is dog sex boy allowed to roam free?
February 18th, 2009 at 11:20 pmSantorum ignorantly refers to elbow as his ass.
The ‘medical’ term is “anal-ulnal confusion.”
February 18th, 2009 at 11:30 pmThe ‘medical’ term is “anal-ulnal confusion.”
– Dr Jane E. Schneider, one of Psychoproctology’s foremost authorities
February 18th, 2009 at 11:32 pmSo when someone claims you’re a “stupid ass” , they’re actually talking about the elbow …………..???
February 18th, 2009 at 11:34 pmGood post Faiz.. :-)
February 18th, 2009 at 11:35 pmAnother republican trying to sell bullshit.
February 18th, 2009 at 11:37 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfVEcrEy0-A
TRoS, BTW, I responded to your ‘proper’ comment on yesterday’s Bobby Jindal thread.
I’m not a doctor and I don’t play one on TV, but I always liked that term. :)
February 18th, 2009 at 11:40 pmJane E. Schneider Says:
TRoS, BTW, I responded to your ‘proper’ comment on yesterday’s Bobby Jindal thread.
____________
Missed it, jane… I’ll go look…
February 18th, 2009 at 11:50 pm“Psychoproctology”? Eww!
February 19th, 2009 at 12:05 amWell, shucks Jane…
I don’t worry too much about TP like that.
What are they going to do? Kick half of us out of here?
The active half that does much of the posting?
TP’s like a good saloon… it’s only as interesting as the crowd it draws…
Pssssssssssssst… psssssssssssst…
***cough***
(thru clenched teeth…)
Care for one, Jane?
February 19th, 2009 at 12:07 amJane E. Schneider Says:
“Psychoproctology”? Eww!
___________
What??? What???
It’s a perfectly valid field of study – “Why DO some people behave like *ssholes?”
February 19th, 2009 at 12:09 amA democracy could not exist because Mohammed already made the perfect law,” Santorum said. “The Quran is perfect just the way it is, that’s why it is only written in Islamic.”
So…let’s change it a bit to delight the Santorum paleo-Catholic base.
A democracy could not exist because Je-hay-sus already made the perfect law,” Santorum said. “The Bible is perfect just the way it is, that’s why it is only written in Papal Bull.”
February 19th, 2009 at 12:16 am“The Quran is perfect just the way it is, that’s why it is only written in Islamic.”
(banging head against wall)
It is too bad Chevy Chase is too old to do a Rick Santorum impression, I think he’d nail it.
On the bright side, I can add “U.S. Senator” to jobs I am qualified to do, alongside CEO earning a mere $500, 000.
February 19th, 2009 at 1:08 amKeltoi at Night Says:
“The Quran is perfect just the way it is, that’s why it is only written in Islamic.”
(banging head against wall)
____________
Careful, Keltoi… you’re sounding more and more like us every day…
February 19th, 2009 at 1:15 am——————————————————————————–
The Republic of Stupidity Says:
——————————————————————————–
Keltoi at Night Says:
“The Quran is perfect just the way it is, that’s why it is only written in Islamic.”
(banging head against wall)
____________
Careful, Keltoi… you’re sounding more and more like us every day…
Calling rank stupidity rank stupidity is not the purview of any particular political ideology, IMO.
I am just always astounded at the incredible idiocy of people who make it to such high levels of power. The guy was a Senator! And he goes to a college to lecture on a topic and he invents an entire language?!?!?! I mean, did he seconds later say, “Duh, I meant Arabic” or can he possibly believe there is a language called Islamic??? It just beggars the imagination.
February 19th, 2009 at 1:26 amKeltoi at Night Says:
Calling rank stupidity rank stupidity is not the purview of any particular political ideology, IMO.
______________
Geez… I was just kidding… ‘n I thought we were engaging in detente ‘n all that…
I don’t ever recall defending Spitzer, or Blago, or any other heinously stupid Dem on party lines, just because they had a “D” after their names…
AND… many a troll has come here and defended the GOOP in said manner…
February 19th, 2009 at 1:31 amI would simply love to see anyone defend this particular instance of galloping stupids. There surely must be no level of partisanship so blind that you would say “yeah, Islamic, thats what they speak!”
February 19th, 2009 at 1:34 amThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
Jane E. Schneider Says:
“Psychoproctology”? Eww!
___________
What??? What???
It’s a perfectly valid field of study – “Why DO some people behave like *ssholes?”
And, further, it can explain such neocon phenomena as “thenar anal occlusion,” “cehphalorectal syndrome,” “pummeling the primate,” rushophilia, dominicus jailbaitus, cogitophobia, newtolingus, and “rhinofaecalis,” a sad condition afflicting bottom-bussers and suckophytes. . .
February 19th, 2009 at 1:36 amBadmoodman Says:
he asked the students whether they knew the difference between Sunnis and Shias. Only three audience members raised their hands
And then a progressive, caught by accident in a crowd of trolls, asked skankorum whether he knew the difference between s**t and Shinola. . .
February 19th, 2009 at 1:38 amFrom the article, Keltoi…
“Santorum said Christians, who believe in Jesus Christ, never governed or conquered anyone, but Mohammed was a warrior and killed people.”
____________
Apparently Ricky has never heard about the Crusades, or the Spanish Inquisition, amongst other acts of Christianity…
____________
“Santorum received two standing ovations from the crowd.”
February 19th, 2009 at 1:39 ambelac Says:
Santorum is not a person, but a fluid…
I’m gonna get you for this, belac! Because I enjoy your posts, I clicked on the link which you provided. . . WHILE TRYING TO EAT A LATE DINNER. . . I may never be able to look my homemade, RICHLY BROWN vinaigrette dressing in the eye [as it were] again.
[Gave you a recommend as soon as I finished choking.]
February 19th, 2009 at 1:45 am“Islamic Writing” and the study of it has been a topic of Theologians and Philosophers alike for 0ver 800 years.
Your article exposes you as the ignorant one, especially when relying on another article that is incorrect. There is a recording of the speech you know.
Do yourself a favor start by reading this:
February 19th, 2009 at 2:12 amDonner, F.M. (1998): Narratives of Islamic Origins: The Beginnings of Islamic Historical Writing.
dcrover Says
But are they written in Islamic? That’s what the brilliant scholar said……
do yourself a favor and read the article. Then we can discuss it.
February 19th, 2009 at 2:18 amdcrover Says
Oh, and why don’t you tell us what a wonderful and intelligent person rick is too. Got some links for that? If not, read back through the thread. A mental giant or a moral leader this man is not……
February 19th, 2009 at 2:21 amIsn’t there a Catholic language?
February 19th, 2009 at 2:22 amThink Hebrew, as in one can speak, be and practice Hebrew.
Islam, Islamic is no different.
February 19th, 2009 at 2:24 ambgluc15 Says:
Santorum also doesn’t under the subjunctive tense. It’s “if every citizen were …” not “if every citizen was …”
Although retired English prof moi relishes finding bloggers who revel in the possibilities of language, I must fine-tune your statement: the subjunctive is a mood, not a tense. Tenses show time. Moods show “mode,” such as interrogative [the question mode] or declarative [the statement-making mode]. The subjunctive, however, is my personal favorite; it’s the mode of possibility, the mode of “what if?”
Using the subjunctive, we can indulge in such delicious speculations as “If Santorum had half a wit more, he’d be a half-wit.”
February 19th, 2009 at 2:25 am.
LOL…
… Like he matters.
.
February 19th, 2009 at 2:28 amP.S. to my post #143: neocons prefer the imperative mode, the mode of giving orders: “Vote against _______ [fill in the blank with a person, a bill before Congress, an ideology not their own, a civil right, or a good idea that does not involve lock-stepping with noses up rethug rumps].
February 19th, 2009 at 2:30 amHebrew is a language, Islamic is not and you can’t make it be just by saying it. Hebrew is not a religion….
Think Southern Babtist, they don’t speak Souther Babtist, they speak English…
February 19th, 2009 at 2:35 amYeah, it’s called Latin I believe.
February 19th, 2009 at 2:37 amHebrew is not a faith?
You are embarrassing yourself.
February 19th, 2009 at 2:40 amHebrew is also a language used by others than the religious, just as Latin is.
Don’t tell me I’m embarrassing myself, you said Islamic was a language….
February 19th, 2009 at 2:50 amFirst off I never said “Islamic was a language” and second writings including the Quran can be described as being written in Islamic. There is no discussion you and this story are wrong.
February 19th, 2009 at 2:54 amAnd yet in another article he imply’s that you get criticized for saying negative things about Islam…..which is it Rick?
The Elephant in the Room: Intimidating critics of Islam
I guess aside from his hypocricy surrounding sex it’s the two facedness that makes him so unattractive to thinking people.
February 19th, 2009 at 2:59 amOh why won’t he go away? He’s such an embarrassment… For what, 5-6 years now he’s made himself a public clown. He’s actually giving lectures on Islam????? LOL!!! With what qualifications? Why would any University allow someone who obviously has an agenda pretend they are “teaching” the audience? I bet the teachers were pissed…
February 19th, 2009 at 3:04 amBut you implied that we are ignorant because that’s what this thread is about and you implied that we were wrong as you are still doing…..can’t have it both ways anymore….
And you are wrong, there is a discussion and it is relevant to people who claim to be authorities who don’t know what the hell they are talking about…..re: santorum and you.
Your links to Judism and Christianity holding hands through the ages is cute but not necessarily true….there have been plenty of problems…
February 19th, 2009 at 3:05 amWhen Santorum attends Mass, is it celebrated in the Catholic language?
February 19th, 2009 at 3:08 amThis sure sounds like you are contradicting yourself….you say you never said Islamic was a language….then you say it was written in Islamic…then you get huffy…
You must be a blast at parties.
February 19th, 2009 at 3:37 amIslamic is not a language, because there are plenty of Muslims who speak Farsi, Pashto, Urdu,Turkish, Albanian, Indonesian, and English.
February 19th, 2009 at 3:56 amThere is Islamic literature written in all these languages.
Modern Hebrew is a reconstruction, and was not in use as a living language even in Jesus’s time. At that point, Jews in Judaea spoke Aramaic, and most Jewish writing was done in Greek.
There is Hebrew literature, and there is Jewish literature.
What are you talking about?
You don’t “practice” Hebrew.
:|
I know no one practicing “Hebrew”. Its not a religion.
Its a race, and a language. The faith you are looking for is Judaism. People can practice Judaism but they can’t practice “Hebrew”. Its not a religion.
Islam and Islamic are not languages. Islam is the religion and Islamic denotes the practice thereof.
If you, like Rick Sanitarium knew anything at all about the subject you’d know that most of the people he is usually referring to speak “Farsi”.
:|
No wonder we’re losing the war.
February 19th, 2009 at 4:04 amdcrover Says:
Ah NO d YOUR Post outs you as a complete moron. Santorum didnt SAY the Koran was written as Islamic philsophy or that is an Islamic writing he said it was written IN Islamic which obviously is NOT a language. What he said was stupid, like you, incredibly and mind numbingly ignorant, like you
February 19th, 2009 at 4:12 amdcrover Says:
Think Hebrew, as in one can speak, be and practice Hebrew.
Islam, Islamic is no different.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
OH MY GOD. Could you POSSIBLY be any stupider? There is ONE difference, actually a very BIG difference, that being that Hebrew IS a language and Islam, you know, ISNT. My GOD you are ignorant
February 19th, 2009 at 4:16 amdcrover Says:
Hebrew is not a faith?
You are embarrassing yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
After parading your ignorance around in a way too jumiliating and pathetic to imagine did you REALLY tell someone else they were embarassing themselves? I have to thank you. That is proof positive that no level of irony is fatal or your head would have simply exploded
February 19th, 2009 at 4:17 amdcrover Says:
Thanks for the free clown show. THIS vintage piece of abject stupidity will keep me laughing for days.
First off I never said “Islamic was a language”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Followed by
and second writings including the Quran can be described as being written in Islamic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So to follow your monumental stupidity are you REALLY saying that the Koran can be described as written in something that is NOT a language? REALLY? WOW. Total bugfukcINSANE. I have to admit this MAY be the stupidest thing ever written in the English langauge. Do you just post whatever floats to the top of that sump you have in place of a brain? Do you even TRY to make sense? Do you have any idea how stupid you are? Can anyone as bone ignorant as you long exist without forgetting to breathe?
There is no discussion you and this story are wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Oh no the story isnt wrong you are just the stupidest thing imaginable. Did you imagine you were having a discussion? I thought you were doing performance art or just babbling the stupidest bits on idiocy I have ever read while drooling on your keyboard. Are you for real? Tell the truth you are a lefty trying to make wingnuts look even stupider and more ignorant than they naturally are.
February 19th, 2009 at 4:27 amGood stuff, pbg!
February 19th, 2009 at 4:28 amSunnis and Shias is easy. I’m still trying to figure out the difference between a Baptist and a Presbyterian.
February 19th, 2009 at 5:28 amEugeneDebs Says:
Ah NO d YOUR Post outs you as a complete moron. Santorum didnt SAY the Koran was written as Islamic philsophy or that is an Islamic writing he said it was written IN Islamic which obviously is NOT a language. What he said was stupid, like you, incredibly and mind numbingly ignorant, like you
February 19th, 2009 at 4:12 am
OK, well if you really stretch the definition of language you could make a case for what Santorum said. Sort of. Bear with me here, I haven’t had any coffee yet:
Arabic isn’t A language. It’s three. Maybe seven.
The language of the Qur’an is technically Arabic, but it’s not a language that anybody speaks, or even writes in, today. It’s a classical, extremely formal version of the language that’s only used for reading the Qur’an. At the same time, the Qur’an is largely credited with formalizing the rules and patterns and measures and structures of Arabic, so it is a grammar text as well as a religious one. This classical language is intimately tied to the religion, and among certain circles over the past one-and-a-half millennia it was considered sacrilegious to, say, use the wrong vowel when speaking.
Arabs speak in local “dialects” of Arabic that are based on this classical language. Note that these are “dialects” in much the same way that Spanish and Romanian are “dialects” of Latin. They have their own distinct vocabulary, phonemes, and grammar.
Modern Arabs read and write in al-fu97aa (Modern Standard Arabic) a 20th-Century blending of the classical and colloquial languages with some commonly used loanwords. Literacy in Arabic is not merely a matter of learning to read the script – native speakers have to learn an entirely new language to become literate. On the positive side, this language is standard from Morocco to Iraq, so it enables Arabs of widely different dialects to communicate.
That all said, one could make a (very convoluted) case that the modern spoken dialects are “Moroccan,” “Levantine,” “Iraqi,” “Egyptian,” and “Gulfic,” the modern standard language is “Arabic,” and the classical language of the Qur’an is “Islamic.”
Whether Santorum was actually thinking along these lines is, of course, highly doubtful.
February 19th, 2009 at 6:01 amHighly inventive and entertaining argument. Far from compelling but a VERY good effort. I doubt Chomsky or any other Linguist would subscribe to it. Your argument could just as easily be used to say that the Koran is written in Koranic. Not only is it HIGHLY doubtful if Santorum was thinking in those terms. A troll stupid enough to argue that not only is Hebrew a faith but that someone with the basic knowledge that it clearly ISNT was somehow embarassing it couldnt POSSIBLY be thinking in those terms.
February 19th, 2009 at 6:10 amFunny, because Santorum believes the Bible is already the perfect law, which cannot be changed or challenged by human law…
February 19th, 2009 at 6:35 am@hussein_toasterhead:
Please read up on historical linguistics. You are sadly mistaken about the difference between dialect and language, mode and dialect, as well as to the nature of language evolution over time.
Simply put: Spanish and Romanian are not “dialects” of Latin in any way. They are languages historically derived from Latin (as all Romance languages are). The relationship between Classical Arabic and Modern Standard Arabic is significantly closer that that between Spanish and Latin; whereas the language of the Qur’an and the language of Modern Egyptian newspapers are recognizably the same, although in different dialects and different modes, no one can mistake a text in Spanish from one in Latin and claim they are the same language.
Arabic is not 3 languages, not 7 languages. It is one language, with numerous variants of various kinds; just like any other language spoken by more than a few thousand people. Only languages limited to small geographic areas, or tiny population have the luxury of homogeneity. Arabic is certainly not that.
February 19th, 2009 at 6:43 amEugeneDebs Says:
Highly inventive and entertaining argument. Far from compelling but a VERY good effort. I doubt Chomsky or any other Linguist would subscribe to it. Your argument could just as easily be used to say that the Koran is written in Koranic. Not only is it HIGHLY doubtful if Santorum was thinking in those terms.
February 19th, 2009 at 6:10 am
_________
Fair enough. In fact, I’ve also seen classical Arabic referred to as Qur’anic Arabic. But yes, no notable linguist would actually refer to the language as Qur’anic. That would be rather Mor’onic.
And the semantic debate rather buries the larger, even more Mor’onic point Santorum was trying to make, which is that Islam is unchanging and somehow incompatible with democracy. There would be a lot of Islamic scholars and clerics out of work if that were the case.
February 19th, 2009 at 6:46 amdrobert_bfm Says:
Please read up on historical linguistics. You are sadly mistaken about the difference between dialect and language, mode and dialect, as well as to the nature of language evolution over time.
Simply put: Spanish and Romanian are not “dialects” of Latin in any way. They are languages historically derived from Latin (as all Romance languages are). The relationship between Classical Arabic and Modern Standard Arabic is significantly closer that that between Spanish and Latin; whereas the language of the Qur’an and the language of Modern Egyptian newspapers are recognizably the same, although in different dialects and different modes, no one can mistake a text in Spanish from one in Latin and claim they are the same language.
February 19th, 2009 at 6:43 am
___________
I have read up on this, quite a lot. The difference between language and dialect has little to do with linguistics and a lotto do with the power politics of in-groups and out-groups. Cantonese is considered a “dialect” of Chinese because of the Chinese government’s desire to unify China. Meanwhile, Uyghur, Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Uzbek, and Turkmen are considered languages rather than Turkic dialects because of the desire of Russian and Chinese occupiers to break up a group they considered threatening. The distinction is political.
Speakers of Arabic dialects identify their language as Arabic because of the prestige attached to Arabic by its association with Islam. Yes, the basic structures are common, but there are vast differences between the dialects, from the existence of the verb “to be” to the formation of the future tense to the structure of negation to the pronunciation of the Qaf. This is why MSA was created – to unify the colloquial variations.
Perhaps the comparison to Latin and its derivations is not an exact depiction, but I think it’s still illustrative of the gulf between colloquial and classical.
February 19th, 2009 at 7:07 amStudents at Nebraska think the N on the teams helmets stands for “Nowledge” i.e. Knowledge
February 19th, 2009 at 7:10 amBoy, Santorum can’t be acting like a professor of Islam. He’s crazy. I wonder what the students thought of his statement? Did they laugh, gasp or walk out?
February 19th, 2009 at 7:14 amRick Santorum is BFF with Sen. Susan Collins of Maine. Makes sense that these two would see eye to eye.
February 19th, 2009 at 8:41 amHere’s Susan Collins supporting Santorum’s failed re-election run in 2006:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09nF39O5Q80Ob/610x.jpg
Notice how Norm Coleman is standing next to Suzie-Q! Yep, she just gave Coleman $2000 in his race against the Senator-Elect Al Franken while at the same time trying to pass off the image that she’s a champion of bipartisanship, because she voted in favor of President Obama’s economic stimulus bill!
February 19th, 2009 at 8:44 amSince we kicked him out of Pennsylvania, he now has to go to other states to preach his nonsense. My god, can’t we be rid of this fool?
February 19th, 2009 at 8:47 amWe all know that the Koran is written in arabic and so do two men sentenced to death in Afghanistan by (not the Taliban) the government we are surging to protect.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hITyqVOjG08VRKlLCe5j7Wx4nhCQD96C3FEG4
Well, at least we are bringing freedom to Afghanistan.
February 19th, 2009 at 8:59 amSurge on, Obama. Surge on.
Cats r Flyfishn Says:
” Since we kicked him out of Pennsylvania,he now has to go to other states to preach his nonsense. My god,can’t we be rid of this fool?
___________________
Simple, help other states by advertising your formula of kicking him out of Penn. state.
Your ideas will be appreciated in many other states.
February 19th, 2009 at 9:14 amdbadass Says:
In spite of volumes of literature on the subject, a vast majority of Muslims young and old are ignorant of Islamic history.”
–
As if Christians have a clue about their own crap…
February 18th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
He probably means things like these: the number of battles in which Mohammad participated or commanded; the number and ages of his wives; the two important communities where he lived; and his community organizing activities.
Remember, with Islam it’s always RPM – religion, politics, and military.
To the best of bit’s understanding Christ never sought power in any of these arenas.
February 19th, 2009 at 9:30 ambitblt Says:
Remember, with Islam it’s always RPM – religion, politics, and military.
____________
Ya mean, kinda like “God, guns, and gays”???
February 19th, 2009 at 9:33 ambitblt Says:
To the best of bit’s understanding Christ never sought power in any of these arenas.
_____________
Whilst Christ himself, IF he actually existed, may not have, it certainly never stopped many a Christianist after him from trying.
Crusades, anyone?
White man’s burden?
February 19th, 2009 at 9:35 amdrew3rd Says:
I wonder what the students thought of his statement? Did they laugh, gasp or walk out?
___________
Actually, according to the lined article, they gave him two standing ovations.
Santorum lecturing about Islam is the equivalent of drew3rd lecturing about the “gay agenda”…
February 19th, 2009 at 9:37 amwell, the guy’s a religious fanatic; these folks foster ignorance and irrational thinking; I don’t expect him to be too knowledgeable on any subject not related to his own rigid ideology or religious dogma…
February 19th, 2009 at 9:43 amSO YOU’RE SAYING HIS KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE QUR’AN IS A LITTLE FROTHY?
February 19th, 2009 at 9:44 amFirst, let’s just go ahead and state the obvious: Rick Santorum is an idiot. His ignorance is frankly astounding. He is an embarrassment to this country and to the Senate where he served.
In regards to Islam, Santorum is perhaps one of the worst choices to deliver a lecture on the religion and culture. “Islamic” is an adjective; “Arabic” is a noun. If he can’t get the basic terminology right, then how can he be reliable on anything else on the topic?
“A democracy could not exist because Mohammed already made the perfect law.”
Well, Muhammad did not “make the perfect law”. He didn’t write anything – he was illiterate! The Qur’an was recited by him, following revelations from God. It was not written down until much later, some sources indicating that a written version of the Qur’an as we know it today did not exist until decades after the death of the Prophet.
It is also false to declare that Islam is incompatible with democracy. Muhammad was not a dictator; he regularly met and consulted with others and would follow the decision of the majority even if he disagreed with it. These councils are called “shura” and were an early form of democracy within the Muslim community. In fact, the nation with the largest Muslim population – Indonesia – is a democracy! Turkey is a democracy!
Yes, these are indeed exceptions. Most countries with a Muslim majority population are not democratic. This is not the result of Islam, but rather the legacy of colonialism and centuries of rule by monarchs and oligarchs.
Having Rick Santorum speak about Islam is no better than having the Ayatollah Khomeni speak about Judaism or Christianity. Both of these men have/had an ideological bias against those not of their own faith. Why anyone would listen to Rick Santorum is beyond me.
Besides, I bet Santorum doesn’t even know the answer to his own question re: the difference between the Sunni and the Shia.
February 19th, 2009 at 9:59 am“I think that if every citizen was fully informed about the war, it would create a commonality between faiths.” Indeed, much work remains to be done.
This kind of logic is so stupid and so onesided. Translation: if all the “Islamics” converted to christianity we would own the Middle East.
Dear Mr. Santorum, the only work that needs to be done here is you, you’re not even a work in progress. Remember Terrie Schiavo you cluck head and the mess you made of what was left of her life, ON A FEEDING TUBE? Go Home and shut the f**k up!
February 19th, 2009 at 10:00 amIs it just me, or does Santorum remind anyone else here of Neidermeyer, from “Animal House”?
February 19th, 2009 at 10:17 amViva Senator “Sanitorium”!
Just saying . . .
February 19th, 2009 at 10:42 amI guess he is another guy who thinks people in Latin American speak Latin.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:35 amCan the university demand the Santorum’s speaking fee be returned??
February 19th, 2009 at 12:41 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
And the semantic debate rather buries the larger, even more Mor’onic point Santorum was trying to make, which is that Islam is unchanging and somehow incompatible with democracy. There would be a lot of Islamic scholars and clerics out of work if that were the case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Mor’onic, VERY good. Not only that if it had ANY reality we wouldnt have had to overthrow the FIRST Islamic democracy in Iran in 53. Santorums cookie has clearly crumbled.
February 19th, 2009 at 2:48 pmbitblt Says: 176
Wow bit you really are an astonishingly stupid moron. How many battles are recorded in Judges, Chronicles Kings? How many times did God instruct Joshua to kill everyone in a village every man woman and child and the farm animals? How many wives and how old did Solomon have? You are not only a bigot you are stupid. You dont know your own religion and just hate Islam out of knee jerk stupidity and being brainwashed. Being an ignorant brainwashed bigot is no way to go through life moron. Save yourself.
February 19th, 2009 at 2:54 pmActually, the Koran was ‘ORIGINALLY’ written in Aramaic, which is the reason that scholars argue over some specific meanings such as the whole 72 virgin thing. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
February 19th, 2009 at 8:46 pmEurope schools does teach christian and jews religions and muslim, in usa seems like they don’t teach anything about islam, if you don’t teach then you don’t know anything about it.
March 21st, 2009 at 11:18 am