NY Post issues qualified apology for its chimp cartoon.
NY Post issues qualified apology for its chimp cartoon.
Yesterday, the New York Post published a cartoon by Sean Delonas showing two police officers shooting a chimpanzee and saying, “They’ll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill.” Many people immediately questioned whether the chimp was meant to be President Obama. Hundreds of people protested outside the offices of the Rupert-Murdoch owned NY Post today, calling for the paper to be shut down. This evening, the Post put up an editorial apologizing to some people who were “offended by the image.” At the same time, however, editors said they were disgusted by “opportunists seek to make it something else“:
It was meant to mock an ineptly written federal stimulus bill.
Period.
But it has been taken as something else – as a depiction of President Obama, as a thinly veiled expression of racism.
This most certainly was not its intent; to those who were offended by the image, we apologize.
However, there are some in the media and in public life who have had differences with The Post in the past – and they see the incident as an opportunity for payback.
To them, no apology is due.
Sometimes a cartoon is just a cartoon – even as the opportunists seek to make it something else.
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Obviously, Murdoch, and the Editorial Board at the Post still don’t get it. As shills for the White Regional Party formerly known as the Republican Party, I’m not surprised.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:37 pmThe great non-apology apology.
Typical.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:39 pmThat’s an apology? Could have fooled me.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:40 pmThe problem with most racists is that they don’t understand why what they say or do is racist. Often, they are the same kind of people who do not recognize hypocrisy when they commit it. More at TheZoo.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:40 pmWayne A. Schneider has a post on the non-apology over at TheZoo.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:40 pmI get the history of the comparison, but I’m just not seeing it in this particular instance.
There was actually a rampaging chimpanzee in the news. The cartoonist wanted to deride the stimulus bill. Saying that it had been written by the rampaging chimpanzee is an effective insult. Ties two current events together, which is a standard poli-cartoon formula.
Normally I’m among the first to cry foul, but I think they’re going a little over the top this time.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:40 pmJINX!!! :-D
February 19th, 2009 at 10:40 pmIf its Murdoch it not news, its a tabloid.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:41 pmwe need backup here.
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for balance!
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February 19th, 2009 at 10:42 pmPower of suggestion in the Cartoon ElBruce.
Just sayin…..
February 19th, 2009 at 10:42 pm“It was meant to mock an ineptly written federal stimulus bill.”
Apparently the cartoonist felt that he could only get his message mocking the stimulus bill across by showing a bullet-riddled dead chimp. Because that spells “ineptly written federal stimulus bill” to everyone? And turning the ‘apology’ into an attack is a nice touch, isn’t it?
February 19th, 2009 at 10:44 pmThe cartoon is about as funny as Coulters ‘joke’ about putting poison in judges creme brulee.
IE If you dont like something kill it.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:45 pmThis cartoonest is just plane evil, he and the editor should be fired for this disgusting display…In a good world it would be possible, in the media evil world it is not possible…Hate is a learned family value….P.B.& J
February 19th, 2009 at 10:46 pmElBruce,
Try looking at it this way. I admit I’ve been among the many who called Bush a chimp. (Not the only one.) Imagine if this cartoon was done seven years ago, and instead the cops said, “Looks like we’ll need someone to write a new Patriot Act.” I think we’d all agree that the cartoonist could be suggesting an assassination on Bush, since he would be considered, for credit purposes, as the “suthor” of the Patriot Act. Not look at this cartton with the chimp representing the author (the President) of the stimulus bill.
This cartoon was wrong on so many levels.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:52 pmSorry for the typos. TP, can we please get a “preview” screen? Thank you. Sometimes typos are hard to see in the small box we have to se our comments, especially if we use HTML in it.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:53 pmPerhaps the timeline I have in mind is off — was this posted before or after the chimpanzee attack in Connecticut? That, for some reason, has me wearing the blinders on this incident. My indifference doesn’t matter though — the concerns of the black community take precedence. I just want to be candid with my fellow commenters, since I know you all see through sugar-coated bullshit.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:54 pmOh, poor New York Post, what a victim you are! Cry me a river.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:55 pmThe color of change. org has a petition going if any one is interested…colorofchange.org…….P.B.& J
P.S. Wayne you are correct on all level’s, to bad it must be explained to so many…
February 19th, 2009 at 10:56 pmFrom Hume’s Ghost:
Why do people think it’s a racist cartoon? Because even the racists think it is….
February 19th, 2009 at 10:57 pmYay, Wayne!
February 19th, 2009 at 10:58 pmNYP = I’m sorry I got caught.
February 19th, 2009 at 10:59 pmthis was announced on COUNTDOWN just after guest michael wolff stated that murdoch would just bury this story, no reaction…
su-prise!
wolff also stated that rupert was very angry about this…
February 19th, 2009 at 11:00 pmthat he is an obama fan and didn’t want this kind of thing…
that the editor, col ?, is gone…
This is no apology whatsoever. The cartoon depicted the shooting of an image meant to be the president , therefore it depicted the killing of the president. And they still think it’s okay? Losers, racists, & hate-mongers. What part of killing the president & likening him to a crazed chimpanzee do they think was appropriate?
February 19th, 2009 at 11:00 pmangry about the cartoon
February 19th, 2009 at 11:00 pmUpdate: Wayne A. Schneider over at The Zoo has more on why this isn’t really an apology.
U rock!
February 19th, 2009 at 11:01 pmWayne A. Schneider over at The Zoo has more on why this isn’t really an apology.
Wayne & Jane are very bright lights. I like how they pair up and post at the same time. Interesting arrangement that adds character to the commentary section.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:01 pmthere was nothing “thinly veiled” about it.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:01 pmMcWars Says:
February 19th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
We luvs us some Wayne & Jane. :-)
February 19th, 2009 at 11:03 pmkaty Says:
there was nothing “thinly veiled” about it.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Absolutely not, katy.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:04 pmFrom “The Unpology: How Republicans Never Say They’re Sorry”:
“In 1997, Seinfeld introduced Americans to the “unvitation.” The unvitation enables the cynical person to seemingly satisfy the demands of social etiquette by extending an invitation to an event or gathering which they know the recipient will – or must – reject.
Americans are witnessing Republicans perfect a similar act of social hypocrisy and cynicism: the Unpology. Facing recriminations for ethical failings, racist behavior, sexist statements or outright criminality, this new generation of Republican wrong-doers delivers the facade of apology by uttering obligatory words of remorse devoid of actual regret, contrition – or even an admission of guilt.”
February 19th, 2009 at 11:06 pmTHIS FAKE APOLOGY IS UNACCEPTABLE, UNACCEPTABLE, UNACCEPTABLE! I’M AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN – ORIGINALLY FROM NEW YORK – WHO WILL NOT PURCHASE THE NEW YORK POST’S TRASH UNTIL THEY CHANGE THEIR RASCIST WAYS! THIS IS WHY ERIC HOLDER MADE THE STATEMENT HE MADE ABOUT FOLKS BEING COWARDS WHEN TALKING ABOUT RACE! I’M OUTRAGED!
February 19th, 2009 at 11:09 pmAw, shucks, thanks guys! :D
February 19th, 2009 at 11:09 pmIf it wasn’t racist why would they have two white cops shooting the chimp. They could have had a hunter, or a bank robber, or a gang banger.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:10 pmAL SHARPTON – KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DO! YOU ARE THE ONE ACTIVIST WHO IS NEVER AFRAID TO STAND UP FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS IRREGARDLESS OF CRITICISM!
February 19th, 2009 at 11:10 pmMcWars Says
February 19th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Wayne answered my question in his article. NY Post is a tabloid paper with a loony bin staff. If it were most other newspapers, I’d say they were referring to the Chimp attack. But the line, “They’ll have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill.” draws a lot of suspicion, as if the chimp is meant to refer to someone involved in crafting the stimulus bill.
Not a good choice of words.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:11 pmMcWars,
First, thanks.
Second, it’s also disturbing because the cartoonist said that the “author” of the stimulus bill could be considered to be Speaker Pelosi. So the chimp could represent her, and that’s why it’s not racist. (Misogynist, then?) This isn’t any better than if it was supposed to represent the president.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:15 pmI think my indifference is fading now. It wouldn’t be off the mark to say about a tabloid paper that they thought a woman getting her face nearly torn off by an animal that should have been left in the wild would serve as a clear pass to insinuate that Obama could use some roughing up, typical as portrayed on shows like “Cops”.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:17 pmMcWars Says:
Perhaps the timeline I have in mind is off — was this posted before or after the chimpanzee attack in Connecticut?
is that a serious question?
of course it was after the attack?
otherwise, why…?
February 19th, 2009 at 11:17 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
Try looking at it this way. I admit I’ve been among the many who called Bush a chimp. (Not the only one.) Imagine if this cartoon was done seven years ago, and instead the cops said, “Looks like we’ll need someone to write a new Patriot Act.”
Yeah, but Obama didn’t write the stimulus bill. He sort of punted the drafting to the Democratic caucus. If I squint at it with one (chimp = Obama) eye, it’s horrifically racist, so much so that I can’t believe it was printed. If I squint at it with the other (stimulus bill = so bad it could have been written by that enraged chimpanzee that was in the news) eye, I can see how it could be done without that connection occurring to anybody.
If the author had a history of racist-coded cartoons, that would be another story entirely. And even if one complains that cartoonists shouldn’t have to self-edit to the degree of catching and avoiding all offensive alternative interpretations, I suppose the editors should have.
But the criticism still seems kind of over the top this time. For some reason this one just doesn’t ring “intentional” to me. Probably because the racist interpretation wasn’t the first one that came to my mind when I saw it. That had to be explained to me.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:20 pmHere’s my comment from yesterday’s thread http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/18/nypost-chimp/#comments (so I don’t have to re-type it here):
I didn’t hear about the chimp attack story until Wayne told me when I got home from work. Shortly afterward, Tweety showed the “cartoon” on Hardball. Before seeing the “punch line” in the balloon, I already questioned what could possibly make this funny. My first visceral reaction after reading it was “Oh my god – he’s making a racist joke plainly showing a dead, bullet-ridden chimp as President Obama? And if that wasn’t the cartoonist’s intention, then WTF was? I’m totally confused, and the cartoonist’s own ‘explanation’ that the dead chimp wasn’t President Obama, and referring to Nancy Pelosi doesn’t help us understand exactly what he is trying to portray. Also, he has to realize that not everyone seeing it is aware of the chimp attack incident, so was he counting on only the tri-state area (NY/NJ/CT) would see it? Anyone who had not been aware of the chimp attack would be seriously wondering ‘why the dead chimp?” The whole thing, no matter what way you look at it, is disturbing at the very least.
And, as others have said here, there was nothing funny about the chimp attack itself. It goes without saying that no one should keep a chimp as a pet. Some here have mentioned that ‘it served the owner right’, and in my mind that would be true if the owner had been attacked, but it was the owner’s friend who was attacked and is now in critical condition. Just wanted to clarify that.
Wayne and I also discussed what we thought our reaction would have been if this ‘cartoon’ had been published 6 months ago by a liberal-leaning cartoonist/paper, with 8 years of ‘Chimpy” references in mind. We honestly believe that we would have been similarly outraged. It’s just wrong.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:21 pmi mean, of course it was after the attack.
your comment confuses me…
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btw, i heard on ed that the woman lost her eyes and part of her chin…
February 19th, 2009 at 11:22 pmunimaginable…
No, thank you, Wayne, for quickly getting me up to speed on an outrage I was ignoring.
I can’t believe the author would play musical chairs with whom the chimp could be referring to. Our duly-elected leaders should have a couple of bullets pumped into them for crafting a bill representing a new era of important social spending?
February 19th, 2009 at 11:23 pmelbruce – the “cartoonist” did have a history of ugliness…
February 19th, 2009 at 11:24 pmWayne said on The Zoo post:
“We aren’t tribal hunter-gatherers out foraging for food, like we were tens of thousands of years ago. When you were out looking for food, and you came across someone who clearly didn;t look like they were from your tribe, you had to fear that they would take your food. I can understand that. There was no “civilization” to speak of in those days.”
Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, are unedumacated or what?
The hunter only had to turn to Eve to tell her to run from the Dinosaur. /snark
C’mon this was too easy. Good post dude.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:25 pmElBruce,
Forget the racist aspect for a moment. One way or another, the cartoon suggests shooting dead the author of the stimulus bill, whichever politican it might be referring to. And that’s wrong, to suggest killing that person. And rather blithely at that. It’s a violent metaphor that doesn’t need to be suggested.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:25 pmNot only is it racist but also connects political differences with the use of violence. This cartoon is wrong on so many levels.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:29 pmdasm Says:
This is no apology whatsoever. The cartoon depicted the shooting of an image meant to be the president , therefore it depicted the killing of the president. And they still think it’s okay? Losers, racists, & hate-mongers. What part of killing the president & likening him to a crazed chimpanzee do they think was appropriate?
Thank you!
What does the stimulus package have to do with killing a wild monkey that maimed a woman?
I agree he’s a bald face liar. Man up punk.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:31 pmThey did a caricature of the wrong Chimp. The Chimp they should have been showing in cartoons left the White House at noon on January 20 never to return.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:31 pm#1
rec. And spot on.
Except I think that they do in fact get it, and don’t give a crap.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:32 pmI’m going to throw my $0.02 in here, and I don’t know if it will be too popular, but oh well. I agree that the cartoon was insulting, insensitive, and perhaps racist. The NYP should know that even if they think this should not be offensive, they are capable of recognizing that many will consider it to be offensive. (As my comments may be.)
The rub comes when many of us (as Wayne pointed out in full disclosure) referred to the former President as a chimp or many other manifestations on the theme. Yes, I recognize a different historical context. Yes I recognize that dumbasses were selling shirts with monkey depictions of Obama (also done for Bush). Yes, I recognize the the racist neoNazis cheered it (what vaguely racial reference wouldn’t they cheer? Intentional or not?) Isn’t the point that it isn’t fair to discriminate/belittle people in regards to attributes over which they have no control? Isn’t that the essence of racism? Isn’t that why so many people were upset about the comments O’Reilly made about Helen Thomas? Isn’t that why people were upset with the way people commented about HiIlary Clinton’s appearance? What about the way we comment about gays? Is it okay to refer to posters/subjects of threads purported sexual preferences with backhanded negativity to those of another orientation?
I’m not above the fray here. I know that. But let’s just remember, that there is a non-racial context for the idea that monkeys/chimpanzees could accomplish the tasks that humans can.
I’m not trying to instigate, I just know this issue has made me think about my own thoughts and comments. They surely haven’t all been mature or directed at attributes the target could control.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:35 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
ElBruce,
Forget the racist aspect for a moment. One way or another, the cartoon suggests shooting dead the author of the stimulus bill, whichever politican it might be referring to. And that’s wrong, to suggest killing that person. And rather blithely at that. It’s a violent metaphor that doesn’t need to be suggested.
I think that is the most succinct final response. Racist, sexist or whatever, I’m tired of the creeping suggestions of political assassinations. George Bush, while his policies have killed, displaced and otherwise ruined a great deal of lives, does not deserve to be assassinated out of respect to the Office of the President. It would be no different for the officeholders who have more regard for human life. It is only appropriate for one to hope that the justice system takes up George Bush’s case.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:39 pmkaty, there are times where I don’t easily put 2 and 2 together. That is a testament of my impatience.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:42 pmtbone,
let’s put this in context.
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the author’s previous work
belies your thesis.
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nice try.
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February 19th, 2009 at 11:44 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
Forget the racist aspect for a moment. One way or another, the cartoon suggests shooting dead the author of the stimulus bill, whichever politican it might be referring to. And that’s wrong, to suggest killing that person. And rather blithely at that.
The thing I’m having a hard time getting around is that there was an actual monkey, and it was actually shot. So this was a real topical news item. Rampaging monkey. Had to be shot. He didn’t make up the monkey, and he didn’t just decide to have it be shot. He didn’t decide the shooters were cops. He didn’t exhort that somebody in particular should be shot. That all had already actually happened. It was a topical news item.
The logical flow of the joke doesn’t seem to support a racist construction to me. Now usually my response to bigots who claim “just joking” (Rush, Coulter, etc.) is that their statement doesn’t work when interpreted as a joke. But as I mentioned before, this does: “the stimulus bill is so bad that it could have been written by that rampaging chimpanzee that was recently in the news.” Ha ha, I get it.
Maybe the difference is that I take most actual legislative authors to be anonymous people working in committees on behalf of political figures, rather than as the political figures themselves? I don’t know. Usually I’m completely in agreement with all the leftists around here, especially on calling out racist code, so this is slightly disconcerting for me.
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katy Says:
elbruce – the “cartoonist” did have a history of ugliness…
I found this… It’s very wingnut, extremely homophobic, but not specifically racist from what I’ve seen so far. I was actually kind of hoping to find some racist stuff in that link so I could pick up a torch and pitchfork too, but nope. Still lookin’ for a reason.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:47 pmLike I said yesterday, I remember people in the 1960’s saying they wish somebody would kill JFK, MLK, and RFK. And they DID get killed! It’s not my imagination running away with me!
February 19th, 2009 at 11:50 pmjoe cantwell’s link at # 53 is what I was trying to find. This clearly shows there is a history of ugliness.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:51 pmWhile I understand and to some extent agree with the argument “tbone” is making, I do agree that there is one vital principle being neglected. Whether or not there is a “non-racial context for the idea that monkeys/chimpanzees could accomplish the task that humans can”, the fact remains that the use of that idea in this cartoon was BLATANTLY irresponsible! Just the fact that it can be misconstrued as racist should give one the notion that “Hey, maybe I shouldn’t do this”…
Racism is far too sensitive a subject for people to act irresponsibly. If you are not a racist, why on earth would you publicize ANYTHING that can lead others to believe so? And if you just didn’t think it would go this far, you should be held even MORE accountable. Why? Because your didn’t THINK.
February 19th, 2009 at 11:53 pmMr. Philby, haven’t people already been arrested for “planning” Obama’s assassination?
February 19th, 2009 at 11:54 pmMr. Philby Says:
Sometimes a cartoon is just a cartoon – even as the opportunists seek to make it something else.
Bingo.
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and your point is?
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bingo.
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February 19th, 2009 at 11:54 pmMr. Philby Says:
“I remember people in the 1960’s saying they wish somebody would kill JFK, MLK, and RFK. And they DID get killed! It’s not my imagination running away with me!”
I can remember seeing hundreds of “bush should be hung” and worse right here on this blog.
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link?
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bingo.
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February 19th, 2009 at 11:56 pmIf it was the gunning down of a white woman as a reference to Pelosi—-that would also be horrible!
February 19th, 2009 at 11:56 pmIf the New York Times had a cartoon of Dubya being lynched as a humorous cartoon—-then that would be an@logous.
Can I say an@logous?
February 20th, 2009 at 12:00 amJoe C. that may be. I’m not aware of this person’s history to be honest. And that history is relevant here. But isn’t it also relevant that if you were making a political commentary about a bill that you thought was irrational, that you could metaphorically state that said bill was written by a crazed chimpanzee? (Especially since one was in the news. Plus I know that I could’ve easily said to myself that only a simpleton like Curious George Bush could come up with some legislation like – oh I don’t know – let’s say torturing people.) I don’t know what the answer is here. I just interpreted the cartoon as someone saying they thought the bill was irrational -without knowing anything about the author. I recognized the historic significance, but that didn’t seem the point of the cartoon to me. Now, maybe it is a nice opportunity from the author’s perspective to send a message of both racial intolerance and disdain for the bill. I don’t know. Your historical viewpoints speak to that. But on its face in the absence of that, I can see another interpretation.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:01 amKeith,
That is suggests the gunning down of anybody is wrong. It encourages the use of violence as a solution to conflicts. Racism is just another problem with it, but even if you skip the racism, it’s still wrong to make light of killing someone.
Good night, everyone. And thank you TP for linking to my post. And thank you everyone for reading it.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:03 amanalogous
;)
February 20th, 2009 at 12:03 amDisregarding the racist or violence in the piece. A woman was horribly attacked. Lost both of her eyes and her jaw and is clinging to life. And some so called human makes a related drawing that shows no sympathy for anybody. Even the shooting of the chimp is a sad thing for most of us as it wasn’t his fault he was driven to psychosis by being treated as a human.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:04 amElBruce, I find nothing wrong with your post. But, whew, get a load of that guy’s past cartoons and out of that you will find an author who enjoys being provocative in bigoted ways. The paper put out this non-apology, but Sean Delonas is no doubt sitting back and enjoying our wrangling as to the full intent of his cartoon.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:05 amIheartpower:
February 20th, 2009 at 12:06 amI agree with you. I think the editors should’ve recognized that. No doubt. I don’t necessarily doubt that they did. Maybe they liked the not so-veiled controversy of it because they could hide behind an argument like the one I made. Maybe the didn’t see it. I don’t know.
Hey Zooey, how come you can say an#logous? That’s not fair!!!
February 20th, 2009 at 12:07 amMr. Philby, that’s not an@logous!
February 20th, 2009 at 12:09 amiheartwordpower Says:
Just the fact that it can be misconstrued as racist should give one the notion that “Hey, maybe I shouldn’t do this”
Presumably, the Post has people called “editors” who would be responsible for considering various interpretations of the cartoon and deciding whether or not to run it. Even if I can give a pass to the cartoonist on racism, the editors should have known better. And honestly, they probably did.
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Mr. Philby Says:
SP Biloxi Says:
“Bush at portrait unveiling: ‘Welcome to my hanging.’”…
Good work, now go find all of the posts where we make fun of Rush Limbaugh for being fat. Fetch!
February 20th, 2009 at 12:12 amThere is no excuse for the cartoon and no amount of spinning and lying can undo it’s harm.
Last I heard it is illegal to make statements of assassinating a president… this is what the cartoon has done.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:12 amMaybe people are mad at Bush because he spent $3 Trillion of our money killing 1.3 million innocent people.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:12 amKeith Says:
Hey Zooey, how come you can say an#logous? That’s not fair!!!
February 20th, 2009 at 12:07 am
I suck up to all the right people. ;)
February 20th, 2009 at 12:15 amNo, many scientists. I never listen to Rosie, but I see your cartoonist has a thing about her.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:16 amWho’s rosie, Traj?
February 20th, 2009 at 12:16 amWhy should people want him hanged? The final stimulus bill was very similar to the original Republican proposal. They are just claiming it is wildly different—so they can oppose him.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:16 amkiss, kiss, kiss, I’ll follow all your rules, TP!!! ;P
February 20th, 2009 at 12:19 amJohns Hopkins University knows how to conduct social science research.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:19 amMr. Holder keep talking about rascism in America. Al Sharpton and other activists keep marching on!
February 20th, 2009 at 12:22 amMr. Philby Says:
“They are just claiming it is wildly different—so they can oppose him.”
Like?
I don’t have time to be your personal tutor. Educate yourself.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:23 amMr. Philby. I don’t know if you are aware of this or not, but tallying birth, death, immigration, emigration, and other population demographics would in fact be done using scientific methodologies. So, the answer to your question is – Yes.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:24 amMr. Philby Says:
SP Biloxi Says:
“Bush at portrait unveiling: ‘Welcome to my hanging.’”
Memo to Bush: Ah, be careful what you say and what you wish for.
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sacopenapa Says:
Burn the painting hang the bastard!!!!
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sectionop92 Says:
Can we get a hold of a time machine and switch out Saddam for Sheriff G.W. Pepper?!
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Curlew Says:
If only it was…and the noose was tied around his scrotum.
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TheLarch Says:
Much like Sadam.
Laura should finish the term.
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TexasVietVet Says:
I’d pay my last dollar to watch that idiot hang.
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Leftside Annie Says:
Hanging?!?!?
They’re gonna HANG Bush?!?!? COOL!
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Need more?
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i need one that “called for his hanging”.
keep trying.
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February 20th, 2009 at 12:24 amPhlag the Philby troll.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:25 amThanks oh so much for the compilation, Mr. Philby. Now, go back and ask those commenters, if they’re still around, if they’d actually approve a citizen’s execution of Bush. Chances are, they’d note that their comments were made out of frustration at his disastrous policies, not an endorsement of any punishment handed down outside the justice system. Cooler minds prevail. The three branches of government are bigger than George W. Bush.
I say, put him on the docket in the judicial branch, or the international court, and let justice prevail.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:26 amMr. Philby Says:
I had a feeling jc would cut and run.
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why would jesus christ “cut and run”?
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he’s god.
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February 20th, 2009 at 12:26 amMr. Philby
Yep. They don’t ever want it to go away.
Go ahead, sit back with your lazy one-liners. Contrary to what you think, your work isn’t done.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:28 amSure, Trajie… what is the “truth”?
February 20th, 2009 at 12:30 amMr. Philby Says:
i need one that “called for his hanging”.
keep trying.
I don’t have time to be your personal tutor. Educate yourself.
That also was not an@logous.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:31 amI repeat, Mr. Philby, your one liners are easily deflected by the extensive analysis present at this site. Curt responses only portray you as arrogant, but I’m sure you get a kick out of that.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:31 amTranslation–If any of our loyal, white, conservative subscribers were offended by the cartoon, we apologize. Everybody else can kiss our asses.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:34 amtbone Says:
The rub comes when many of us (as Wayne pointed out in full disclosure) referred to the former President as a chimp or many other manifestations on the theme. Yes, I recognize a different historical context. Yes I recognize that dumbasses were selling shirts with monkey depictions of Obama (also done for Bush).
My problem wasn’t so much with the chimp, but with the violence that was implied in the cartoon. I know that we referred to Bush as the “Chimp”, but how often did people advocate shooting the “chimp” or how often did you see a political cartoon about the “chimp” being shot?
I fear every day for the life of President Obama and I couldn’t help but see this cartoon as a veiled threat of violence towards him.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:34 amMr. Philby Says:
What would sharpton do if racism suddenly went away? Go live happily ever after? I think not.
We didn’t take Al Sharpton at his word, we studied the possible implications and prior publishing of this author. It’s called research – look into it.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:35 amMr. Philby Says:
What would sharpton do if racism suddenly went away? Go live happily ever after? I think not.
What has Sharpton to do with anything? Why is it that “conservatives” obsess about this single individual?
February 20th, 2009 at 12:35 amMr. Philby Says:
What would sharpton do if racism suddenly went away? Go live happily ever after? I think not.
Why not? I would think so. In any case, there are a wide variety of other issues that he deals with, and other things that he does.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:35 amMr. Philby Says:
“Phlag the Philby troll.”
Can’t take the truth, coward?
If you think there is any truth in your idiotic rambling, you are one seriously deluded person. Perhaps a change in your medications might help.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:37 amMr. Philby Says:
i need one that “called for his hanging”.
keep trying.
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I don’t have time to be your personal tutor. Educate yourself.
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“I don’t have time”
you’re here aren’t you?
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you have time.
you just don’t have facts.
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February 20th, 2009 at 12:38 amMr. Philby Says:
“Phlag the Philby troll.”
Can’t take the truth, coward?
February 20th, 2009 at 12:27 am
You have no acquaintance with truth — only ignorance.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:39 amZooey Says:
Mr. Philby Says:
“Phlag the Philby troll.”
Can’t take the truth, coward?
February 20th, 2009 at 12:27 am
You have no acquaintance with truth — only ignorance.
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lol,
this is sooo easy!
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mr. p?
more, please.
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February 20th, 2009 at 12:42 ammr. p?
mr. p….?
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February 20th, 2009 at 12:46 amBilbo:
I see your point, and understand your concern. I have exactly the same concerns. I don’t know what to say. I know that comparisons to other individuals in other contexts aren’t directly analogous. It’s a classic art imitates life vs. life imitates art question. I don’t mean to be flippant about any of this, but I really don’t think it is intellectually, legally, or morally straightforward. My original point (prior to any knowledge of this person’s history povided by Joe C) was simply that a non-racial statement could have been made with the same imagery. Isn’t there an old saying about a thousand monkeys typing randomly will eventually reproduce a Dickens’ novel or some such thing? I don’t know, maybe that old saying in and of itself is racially loaded, but monkeys/chimpanzees are commonly used to illustrate that some non-intelligent entity could’ve produced what a human just did. Isn’t it possible that was all it was?
And no, I am not so naive as to think that the alternative could also be true.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:46 amOh. I forgot to address the violence thing. I have to admit. I have a wide tolerance for – I don’t know how to say these things because art is not something I have ever studied- liberal expression in art. I think art making political statements is a good thing. I wouldn’t agree with the political statement as you described in regards to assassinating the President. But I think that wide latitude must be given in art to speak as a metaphor for life. And that is the context in which I interpreted the cartoon. I have no claims to the correct interpretation. I can see potential ulterior motives. I’m just not sure I am convinced those motives are the driving force of the message.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:55 amtbone, mr. p,
you can ignore this.
color of change has a formal
e-mail protest to the ny post.
you can sign on and add your
thoughts here.
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thank you.
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February 20th, 2009 at 12:59 amJoe C.
February 20th, 2009 at 1:21 amActually, I think that making your opinion known about the issue, as you suggest, is a good thing. In my opinion that is all part of the discussion of race that Mr. Holder referred to the other day. I think we need to discuss these issues candidly and openly.
Tenessee Skank…
February 20th, 2009 at 1:35 amMr. Philby.
February 20th, 2009 at 1:39 amHistory has taught us to see racism at every turn. Racism has been there at every turn and continues to be at many still. So, when people scream racism at every turn it shouldn’t be a surprise. What we need to do is continue making racism obsolete. In many ways, the younger generations are doing that for us. Don’t mistake my comments about the POSSIBLE motives of the cartoonist as absolution of what may in fact be the true intent of said cartoon.
Mr. Philby Says:
At 2:48, they toss to John Gibson who complains that he can’t get away with saying “bright blue scrotum” on the radio then follows that up by saying, “We were talking about Eric Holder today on the radio and his bright blue scrotum.”
LOL!
February 20th, 2009 at 1:22 am Recommend (0) | Report Abuse
Mr. Philby Says:
“I think we need to discuss these issues candidly and openly.”
These guys just want to scream racist at every turn.
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Mr. Philby Says:
huffpo lies, again!
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Mr. Philby Says:
Debunking the huffpo’s is sooooo easy!
http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=DNiIOcCBpjI&eurl=http:/ / homepage.mac.com/ mkoldys/ blog/ jdp.html
February 20th, 2009 at 1:28 am Recommend (0) | Report Abuse
Mr. Philby Says:
Cue….”Gibson is a racist!”
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spam anyone?
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“I think we need to discuss these issues candidly and openly.”
trollese for “go ahead and get your hate and bigotry on!”
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February 20th, 2009 at 1:43 ammr. p?
mr. p…?
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or should i say
mr. pw?
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February 20th, 2009 at 1:45 amjoe cantwell Says:.
“I think we need to discuss these issues candidly and openly.”
trollese for “go ahead and get your hate and bigotry on!”
I have no idea what Charles Gibson says, and in the absence of TP I wouldn’t know who the hell he is. But I beg to differ with your implication that my statement (post 120) is an open invitation to “get my hate and bigotry on.”
I posited a less racially charged POTENTIAL interpretation of a cartoon. That is all.
February 20th, 2009 at 2:11 amElBruce Says:
I disagree and this is why. Obama is DEFINITLY associated with the bill when drawing the Chimp you cant possibly believe he was somehow unaware of the racial overtones of basically associating a monkey with a black man. So he KNEW the way it WOULD have racial overtones and did it anyway. I dont see any way out of that.
February 20th, 2009 at 2:11 amMr. Philby Says:
“Phlag the Philby troll.”
Can’t take the truth, coward?
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What a laugh moron. You wouldnt know the truth if it kicked you in the nuts, slapped your face, stole your wallet and slept with your rubber wife. You ignorant propaganda parrot.
February 20th, 2009 at 2:16 amI didn’t see any apology in the “apology.” I’ve read enough from people who don’t see this as a big deal.
February 20th, 2009 at 2:33 amThis is probably the most blatant racist depiction, cartoon or otherwise, that I’ve ever seen in a major publication.
Which reminds me of the New Yorker cover. This is far far worse.
Mr. Philby@71&74
Are you lonely?
Do you keep a database of what is posted on TP?
February 20th, 2009 at 2:35 amMost of the talk I’ve seen about hanging Bush was in regard to judicial hanging for treason and war crimes, not hanging him out of sheer spite for his personality. Obama has been president for almost a month now and hasn’t committed any grave crimes that we know of.
February 20th, 2009 at 3:36 amLushMoron is back. Still no self respect still begging us to pity him for being so stupid and pathetic. How sad it must be to crave attention so much that he pretends to be a retarded monkey just so we will pity him. What a pathetic creature he is. Apparantly he will never have any pride or self respect and he will come back over and over. Addicted to our pity. Begging us over and over to show some sympathy for the stupidest most pathetic creature on the internet. How sad.
February 20th, 2009 at 3:45 amLush why dont you go away and try to evolve. Obviously higher brain function is not in your future but you could aim for centipede or maybe a dragonfly.
February 20th, 2009 at 3:55 amThe cartoon was offensive on at least two levels.
February 20th, 2009 at 4:52 amThese neo-thugs are laughing their way into political perdition.
more aptly: only a monkey would “read” The Post. The paper is complete crap.
February 20th, 2009 at 5:22 amLushmoron says: Something stupid and pathetic of course as you arent capable of anything else
Its just painful to see anyone as pathetic and ignorant as you try to be clever. It will never happen. You are a moron. You are stupid beyond belief. Clever is something you will never achieve. You may as well try to grow wings and fly to the moon. It is beyond you it will always be beyond you. As with higher brain function, decency and a human level of hygene. You are a subhuman moronic piece of garbage and that is all you will ever be. Pathetically hounding us to pity you for your stupidity. Lacking in pride, self respect, and of course a woman in your life and no the rubber one in your closet doesnt count. It must be a sad thing to look at your pathetic life. No hope, no brain, no decency no one who will EVER love or respect you. Tough. You were a moron yesterday you are a moron today and you will be a moron tomorrow. Second grade cliched idiocy isnt going to change any of that. Those taunts were stupid when we heard them as a child and since we already know how stupid and pathetic you are repeating them really doesnt do you ANY good. You already elicit all the pity from us you will ever get. I am tired of being embarassed for you, I mean since you have no self respect to feel embarassed for yourself. Go away, stop humiliating yourself. Stop begging us to pity you all the time. Try a monastary or a cave in Sri Lanka or anywhere that decent people dont have to pity you.
February 20th, 2009 at 6:09 amFinally, someone who stands benind their work. I’m sick of people who backtrack on things they say or do because of public pressure.
February 20th, 2009 at 7:36 amI agree, drew3rd!
February 20th, 2009 at 8:21 amWe can’t have people considering other people’s feelings or other people’s opinions or facts they didn’t consider before. Why, this might make them smarter and unwilling to march to our conservative drum beat!
Keep up the good fight, drew3rd.
drew3rd Says:
Finally, someone who stands benind their work. I’m sick of people who backtrack on things they say or do because of public pressure.
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I totally agree, drew. None of this mamby-pamby stuff. There’s nothing I hate worse than those uncommitted racist and violent-inciting dweebs. Say what you want about Hitler, but man.. he certainly stood by his ideals, or lack of. Right Drew.. I mean there’s nothing wrong with being wrong as long as your proud of it, right? Despite the fact that it’s impossible not to see that cartoon as, if not racist, than certainly inciting of violence to a man who is trying to help our country out of a huge mess. BUT.. Ol’ Rupert.. he’s a tough ol’ bastard, and he’s not going to back down. No matter how irresponsible.
NOTE: To all those capable of nuanced thinking.. the above paragraph is sarcasm. (Thanks)
February 20th, 2009 at 8:23 amJane E. Schneider Says:
February 19th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Hey, what happened to my post at #40 – all I did was repost my comment from the first cartoon thread from Wednesday! What’s up, TP?
February 20th, 2009 at 8:30 amOkay, never mind, it’s back up now. Weird.
February 20th, 2009 at 8:34 amLet’s try this.
The cops depict American voters and the chimp is equated with Michael Steele and the dying repugs party….
Get it yet repugs?
February 20th, 2009 at 8:48 amThe NY Post:
February 20th, 2009 at 8:58 amGarbage printed on paper. It is not worth the cost of the paper itself.
It is high time to put this so called news-paper to DIE.
New York doesn’t need yellow news paper.
Improve the quality or shut the doors for good.
Hi, It’s me again, President Obama. I must say that I’m deeply offended by that cartoon. It is repugnant and ill conceived. That monkey does not look anything like me! Why can’t the Post hire a cartoonist that at least knows how to draw a proper caricature. Look at my Dumbo sized ears for a moment and tell me that chimp has these gorgeous lobes. If you’re going to mock your President, please get it right. That chimp could be anyone! Pelosi, Reid, Feinstein, Frank, take your pick. I am appalled!
February 20th, 2009 at 9:02 amB*ll Sh*t, Post. The caption of the cartoon clearly implied a person or people not the bill itself. No amount of gymnastics can make it otherwise.
You’re a bunch of racist Murdoch neocon nazi fascists and everyone knows it.
I suppose it would have been different if you’d have put a turban on it’s head and said “I guess someone else will have to write the next Koran?” No. Racist. Pure and simple. I’m not in the media and I can see it clearly.
February 20th, 2009 at 9:03 amThis is hardly an apology.
First of all, what right do the editors have in saying what the cartoon’s purpose was? If they state explicitly what the statement of the cartoon was supposed to be, they are providing their interpretation of what the cartoon is. When an athlete needs to apologize for something, it isn’t an apology if his agent explains things.
Second of all, apologize to those who see your cartoon as one that is offensive in its non-racist way. There is no need to mock current events by drawing a dead chimpanzee. Death has NO place in cartoons as humor.
Third of all, how about apologizing to the non-opportunists out there? Sometimes outrage is just outrage.
February 20th, 2009 at 9:05 amTo Pat and NYC,
In high school we learned that “congress” crafts bills. The bill referred to, in the cartoon, is widely recognized as being crafted by Nancy Pelosi’s congress. Many of us wished President Obama would have interjected himself a little more, it can be done, even though he is the head of the “executive” branch. No rational person believes this is Obama’s bill, therefore the cartoon is not racist. It speaks to the congress of the United States.
Now for a little cultural enlightenment. In America, we refer to low skill work or product as “a monkey can do it” or “Mickey Mouse”. Lately, monkey is being challenged by cavemen, evolution and all that. None of these metaphors are racial and in fact have been widely used. The largeness of Mickey’s ears are not symbolism for President Obama.
Lastly, the Post could have printed this, ” We regret printing the cartoon. We now realize that it could be construed as offensive and even racist. That was never our intent and we apologize for the deleterious effects it may have had on our readership”. You, of course, being rational, reasonable human beings would have replied, “They don’t mean a word of it” or “Rupert Murdoch only did that to save his skin” or, and my personal favorite, ” That’s a non apology, apology”.
In closing, I like people who put their work out there and stand behind it. It means they were focused in what they were doing, invested in it and that they are living their life on purpose. I’m discovering that TPer’s are throwing stuff against the wall and seeing what they can get accolades for. It is a major echchamber in here for the most part.
February 20th, 2009 at 9:09 amIn closing, I like people who put their work out there and stand behind it. It means they were focused in what they were doing, invested in it and that they are living their life on purpose.
I would agree with you here, but so far we haven’t heard from the person who SHOULD be standing behind it–Mr. Delonas. If he really believes in his work, he must be the one defending it, not his editors or the Post itself.
February 20th, 2009 at 9:17 amThis is my response I sent to the Post regarding this ‘apology’.
I noticed that you failed to make any reference to ‘That Cartoons’ reference to the assasination of the Stimulus Bill writer. How very convenient and cowardly.
Yes I will grant you that sometimes a Cartoon is just a Cartoon as long as you grant me that sometimes a politically motivated Chickenshit is just a politically motivated Chickenshit.
February 20th, 2009 at 9:21 amIn closing, I like people who put their work out there and stand behind it.
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Even when they make it up like those data relative to gay lifespan in nations with gay marriage?
Oh and btw how are Washington politicians the greatest threat to the nation and how are they handcuffing a great people and just which reservation did you not live actually on but near with your moving on up native american clan?
February 20th, 2009 at 9:48 am“In closing, I like people who put their work out there and stand behind it.”
You mean, like insurance policies?
February 20th, 2009 at 10:00 amDbad, if you can’t figure out that this stimulus bill is going to implode our country I can’t help you. Washington politicians just authored a bill twice as large as the last money grab. How did that one work out? It made things worse? Ding, ding, ding. If you believe this money will create jobs and generate economic power, I’ve got a gay man who will infect you with AIDS to point you towards. It will just take a little flight to Finland.
If my data is fraudulent, you shouldn’t have any trouble proving gays live reasonably long lives. Find me data that points to 60 years. That’s all, 60 year life exopectancy for gay men. Shouldn’t be hard, Dnotbad.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:29 am[The N.Y. Post]: Sometimes a cartoon is just a cartoon – even as the opportunists seek to make it something else.
Sean Delonas has been a racist, RW azo for a long time. This kind of sh*te from him is nothing new.
Cheers,
February 20th, 2009 at 10:30 amDbad, are you saying I didn’t grow up near the Navajo res. I didn’t know you knew me? Come on down to my office. I have great places to protect the money you might want to invest. You certainly don’t want to buy stocks or bonds with the money grab that is going to bring down the dollar.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:31 amdrew3rd Says:
“Dbad, are you saying I didn’t grow up near the Navajo res.”
In Texas?
February 20th, 2009 at 10:35 amWhy doesn’t anyone address the meet of my post. No one has a counterargument to the monkey and it’s place in American culture? No one thinks I’m wrong about Nancy Pelosi being tied to this bill? Where is Belac? I need a proper foil.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:35 amCome on, drew. That’s all you have? Answer the question. What does this mean?
or this?
Who are you talking to, and what are you talking about?
February 20th, 2009 at 10:37 amNevar, sometimes people move. I have lived in Arizona (born and raised), Philadelphia, Miami and now Texas. I am actually going to be moving again. My company wants me to put out some fires in Western New York. Don’t get confused when I start posting about things happening there.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:38 amAlpuz, Dbad is sland for dbadass’ handle. Do try and keep up.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:39 amdrew3rd Says: “No one has a counterargument to the monkey and it’s place in American culture?”
Perhaps most of us here accept the notion of evolution. Evolution implies moving on, progress if you will.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:41 amTo anthropomorphize a symbol which is derogatory in nature reinforces immaturity and mental stagnation. If not actual regression.
Yes, I know that, goofball What I’m asking is what in the heck are you talking about. I never saw dbadass ask you about investing money or being infected with aids – whatever the hell that twisted comment meant.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:42 amNevar, you’re psychoanalyzing the maturity of a cartoon? Irrational.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:43 amAlpuz, he was reiterating a problem he had with me from yesterday. Do try and keep up.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:45 amdrew3rd Says: “Don’t get confused when I start posting about things happening there.”
Sorry dude, it’s just that a couple of days ago you made a direct connection with the rez you grew up near, and your present location.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:46 amI’ve wandered a good deal as well, and have a good memory to boot. It’s easy to keep facts straight when one tells the truth.
drew3rd Says:
Nevar, you’re psychoanalyzing the maturity of a cartoon? Irrational.
I was psychoanalyzing your infatuation with monkeys in popular culture. Irrational.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:48 am:)
They should just change the caption to:
“Now they’ll have to find someone else to ruin the economy and cause the new Administration to pass a Stimulus package.”
and be done with it.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:48 amYes, Goofball. I know this… but the problem he was “reiterating” had nothing to do with either investing money or this very bizarre post:
What was the point you were trying to make. I’m trying to keep up, goofball… you’re just not making much sense.
Understand?
February 20th, 2009 at 10:51 amAlpuz, you bore me. Dbad was making a statement as to how well he knows me. I suggested that if he knows me so well, he can come visit me and I can assist him with his financial future. I guess I broke TP’s rules of not soliciting business. Sorry, it’s what I do.
February 20th, 2009 at 11:06 amAs far as the gay man. It was his evidence of heterosexuals being exposed to AIDS. Some fellow in Finland who infected 100 women once he learned he had AIDS. The mysoginy of it was lost on him, he just wanted me to know how threatened we non gays are of contracting AIDS. It’s silly. Don’t spend too much time on it.
February 20th, 2009 at 11:10 amYeah, goofball… that’s what you did. You broke TP’s rule regarding soliciting business.
Drew, you really need to get some help. I don’t think I’ve ever come across someone in such complete and total denial over what the hell they actually are.
But since I have your attention, you nasty little goofball, what does this mean?
February 20th, 2009 at 11:12 am
I’m not so sure it’s silly in the way you think it is, goofball.
February 20th, 2009 at 11:13 amdrew3rd Says:
.. It is a major echchamber in here for the most part.
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do try and learn to spell.
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February 20th, 2009 at 11:13 amdrew3rd Says:
Alpuz, you bore me. Dbad was making a statement as to how well he knows me. I suggested that if he knows me so well, he can come visit me and I can assist him with his financial future. I guess I broke TP’s rules of not soliciting business. Sorry, it’s what I do.
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are you an escort?
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February 20th, 2009 at 11:16 amNo, are you a John?
February 20th, 2009 at 11:22 amGotta go guys, clients are calling. Thanks for the “debate”.
February 20th, 2009 at 11:23 amdrew3rd Says:
Gotta go guys, clients are calling. Thanks for the “debate”.
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what’s your hurry?
larry craig won’t mind if you’re a little late.
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February 20th, 2009 at 11:32 amdrew3rd Says:
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Alpuz, Dbad is sland for dbadass’ handle. Do try and keep up.
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February 20th, 2009 at 11:44 amHow many times do I have to tell you the “d” is lowercase?
Dbad, are you saying I didn’t grow up near the Navajo res.
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No I was asking which reservation. I too have spent considerable time on and near that one.
Now as to the life expectancy thing. I don’t have to do shit as I was not the one that posted data as fact which you made up. All that read the exchange know what we are talking about which is why you are again outleagued. Like I told you this will most likely end in a name change. Know what I mean Mr. 53 years?
February 20th, 2009 at 11:48 amdrew3rd Says:
“Gotta go guys, clients are calling. Thanks for the “debate”.”
Why does this guy remind me of the lawyer from Sex, Lies, and Videotape?
Oh, maybe it was because he looked Italian…
February 20th, 2009 at 11:59 amOT
February 20th, 2009 at 12:07 pmNevar:
Three day trip planned starting Sunday. Hoping for 100+ species which is pretty tough in the location we will be. I’ll give you the highlight upon return
best-
Excellent, have a good outing.
February 20th, 2009 at 12:09 pmThis strikes me as odd:
This most certainly was not its intent; to those who were offended by the image, we apologize.
However, there are some in the media and in public life who have had differences with The Post in the past – and they see the incident as an opportunity for payback.
To them, no apology is due.
So what they’re saying is: “We apologize to everyone, unless you’re a member of the enemy conspiracy that’s out to get us, in which case our apology doesn’t apply to you.”
Does this strike anyone else as incredibly paranoid and juvenile? Especially for the editorial board of a major newspaper?
February 20th, 2009 at 1:24 pmwatchdog Says: 156
What an ignorant punk you are. Calling OUT racism is so much worse than racism to the unalterably ignorant like you. You ate too stupid for words.
February 20th, 2009 at 5:53 pmHello this is Mr Tibbs again I just want to remind you how incredibly stupid and racist I am. I cant stand it unless everyone is exposed to my abject stupidity. I am am moron of vast proportions and just love to parade my ignorance. I think I am funny though many tell me I am just pathetic and ignorant. Just didnt want you to forget what an ignorant loaf I am
February 20th, 2009 at 5:57 pmAs far as the gay man. It was his evidence of heterosexuals being exposed to AIDS. Some fellow in Finland who infected 100 women once he learned he had AIDS. The mysoginy of it was lost on him, he just wanted me to know how threatened we non gays are of contracting AIDS. It’s silly. Don’t spend too much time on it.
Uhh, drew?
That was my evidence and the man was a heterosexual, you know- not gay?
He infected 100 women ’cause he wanted to have sex with them without protection, not ’cause he was gay… which was clearly explained in the link… can you read?
February 20th, 2009 at 7:07 pmThe fisrt thing is you create that picture and then apology, didnt you think before you pictured, make it HEADLINE ny post thats only way to say sorry , dont just jump and say we are sorry.
February 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pmNY Post should not apologize in any way: that Obama is racially discriminated against is poetic justice.
Obama is a disgrace to black people.
Is Obama going to financially reward black Katrina victims for having been racially discriminated against by Bush?
Where is the money?
I don’t think Obama would have any problem, hypothetically, with slavery happening all over again.
Maybe one remembers that Kanye West said, “Bush doesn’t care about black people.”
We have uncovered something far more horrifying.
It is practically like Obama “doesn’t care about black people.” (And Obama is black.)
There are all sorts of personalities.
There actually are screwed up black people who secretly don’t like their own kind.
There may even be black lunatics or freaks who would fancy themselves prancing around wearing a KKK outfit or uniform with the swastika on it.
Maybe Obama even fantasizes about hanging black people by nooses.
I like black people.
Black people are cool!
Black people are great.
But now, white people don’t have to worry about Obama interfering with racial discrimination inflicted by white people against racial minorities while Obama is president of the United States.
It is practically just as bad as if the white supremacist at heart, George W. Bush, is still running the country.
For example, Bush murdered a black woman—Margie Schoedinger.
“One of those very least were George Bush’s personal complicity in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003. Determining the exact whereabouts and contacts of [then] president-elect George Bush on September 21 thru 22, 2003, should be entirely lacking in difficulty” (Leola McConnell (Nevada Progressive Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010). Retrieved November 29, 2008, from http://leolaforussenate.blogspot.com/2008/02/leola-mcconnell-for-us-senate.html).
Obama should have the guts to assemble workers from the FBI and/or one or more state attorney general offices and say something similar to the following:
“I, Obama, am the most powerful person in America now. Bush is no longer the president and thus no longer the most powerful person in America. I, Obama, am in control now. I, Obama, demand that the ultimate law-enforcement workers in this country investigate Bush and then proceed to have him locked away for life or executed for murdering the black woman—Margie Schoedinger. I, Obama, am black, and I find Bush’s murder of Margie Schoedinger to be personally offensive. I, Obama, feel it is once again like the time of slavery when white people killed black people with no sheriff, prosecutor, or court to stop it from happening or prosecute it. I, Obama, am not going to go around in the modern-day democracy feeling like a black slave of white people—especially while I am the president of the United States. I, Obama, want Bush brought down for murdering a black woman. I, Obama, want Bush brought down for racially discriminating against black people pursuant to Hurricane Katrina. I, Obama, am going to supply financial rewards to the black people who were harmed by Bush’s racial discrimination and who are still alive. I, Obama, am taken aback by Bush having been so evil in wrongfully causing the deaths of so many black people pursuant to his racist response relative to Hurricane Katrina. I, Obama, am going to take advantage of my time as a racial-minority president and not allow “Bush’s KKK-Neo-Nazi mentality” to rule over and oppress black people in America.”
Obama is not doing anything about Bush’s murder of Margie Schoedinger.
Obama has not given a penny to any black victims of Bush’s racial discrimination.
Obama needs to say: “I can change and act like a black person instead of disgracing myself all over the place!”
Obama needs to say: “Change—Yes I can!”
Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang
February 23rd, 2009 at 8:31 pmB.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993