Obama Hits GOP Governors Rejecting Stimulus Funds: There’ll Be ‘Ample Time For Campaigns Down The Road’
Obama Hits GOP Governors Rejecting Stimulus Funds: There’ll Be ‘Ample Time For Campaigns Down The Road’
This morning, President Obama addressed members of the National Governors Association, focusing his remarks on the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. During the speech, Obama specifically took aim at the GOP governors who have said that they will reject some of the package’s funding, hinting at the fact that many of them seem to have put their political ambitions over the needs of their states:
OBAMA: I just want us to not lose perspective of the fact that most of the things that have been the topic of argument over the last several days amount to a fraction of the overall stimulus package. This sometimes gets lost in the cable chatter. [...]
And so, if we agree on 90 percent of this stuff, and we’re spending all our time on television arguing about 1, 2, 3 percent of the spending in this thing, and somehow it’s being characterized in broad brush as wasteful spending, that starts sounding more like politics. And that’s what right now we don’t have time to do. [...]
What I don’t want us to do, though, is to just get caught up in the same old stuff that inhibits us from acting effectively and in concert. There’s going to be ample time for campaigns down the road.
Obama also went after criticisms about funding for unemployment insurance. Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA), for example, turned away nearly $100 million in federal aid for his state’s unemployed residents. The Emergency Unemployment Compensation alone would have benefited 24,981 Louisiana residents. Jindal justified his decision by claiming that expanding unemployment benefits would result in tax increases for businesses. From Obama’s remarks:
For example, I think there are some very legitimate concerns on the part of some about the sustainability of expanding unemployment insurance. What hasn’t been noted is is that that is $7 billion of a $787 billion program. And it’s not even the majority of the expansion of unemployment insurance.
So it is possible for those who are concerned about sustaining a change that increases eligibility for part-time workers to still see the benefit of $30 billion-plus that is going — even if you don’t make the change.
The White House pool report noted that during his comments about the “cable chatter,” Obama looked directly “towards Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and S.C. Gov. Mark Sanford, who were to his right.” Other Republican governors who have said they may turn down some recovery funds: Butch Otter (ID), Sarah Palin (AK), Sonny Perdue (GA), Rick Perry (TX), and Bob Riley (AL).
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Don’t worry, Obama, they will take the money.
¶ AIO
February 23rd, 2009 at 1:52 pmState legislators can request the money.
February 23rd, 2009 at 1:53 pmThat’s all nice ‘n everything, but let’s get back to other matters, shall we?
Like Rove blowing off another subpoena…
Or all those missing emails…
Or infinite detention w/ no rights…
February 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 pmYes, Mr. President. They are acting like spoiled children who need a timeout.
February 23rd, 2009 at 1:54 pmPerhaps they’ll get a permanent timeout next election.
Rick Perry has more corporate giveaways to fund. The Carlyle Group’s Vought Aircraft took $35 million and cut jobs. Company wide, they don’t employ enough workers to meet the Dallas/Ft. Worth promise.
February 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 pmI do love that he gets to the point so that there’s a great soundbite that points out how shallow and stupid Republicans are being about this.
Am I going to cite a confusing Republican quote on cable that seems to go on forever or a sentence from Obama that points out something in a reasonable manner? Personally I’d go with the latter.
I think no matter who you agree with in the end, he comes of as far more together and intelligent about this stuff. That’s something I’ve been missing for a long time: reassurance that we’re going to get through this stuff from the people in charge.
February 23rd, 2009 at 1:57 pmAll the constituants of Jindal should decide where his loyalties are: Either with the folks who elected him to serve, or Jindal’s own political ambitions. It is one or the other, it cannot be both. Can they recall the Governor of Louisana?
February 23rd, 2009 at 1:58 pmWhat is the problem? Most of the federal revenues come from blue states anyway. If the redneck states no longer want us to help them, big deal.
February 23rd, 2009 at 1:59 pmAnd Palin’s justification for her grandstanding is what? To get back in the news again, not doubt.
Fine. Don’t take the f’ing money. Watch what the people hurting in your states have to say at the polls next election.
PEACE
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:00 pmI think I’m laughing: this is high stakes poker and he is calling their bluff. They are blowhards and Jindal is the worst: brain dead, party-liner, thought processes frozen in time.
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:05 pmYes, it’s possible to recall Jindal here in Louisiana. But he remains a popular governor (go figure). He made a couple pretty awful stumbles early in his term and recovered nicely. This one may backfire though, at least with the 20,000 plus people who would get benefits that he’s refused. I’m fairly certain our legislature will override this decision and take all the unemployment money. We’ll find out soon enough.
Ferd
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:11 pmI know it’s not been long that our new President has been in office but I hope he soon learns that the Republic666ans will not ever, in any way, at all, ever, meet him in the middle.
Enough with the pleasantries and the veiled words, tell it like it is, these people are ruining…no check that, have ruined this country and all the gladhanding will do nothing for this once great nation unless he can totally marginalize the wingnuts, and pleasantries aint gonna do it.
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:11 pmPerry of texas has an election just around the corner. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R) will run against him. She voted against the bill. He says he might NOT take the money……
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:11 pmSounds to me like its time to elect more Democrats in Texas !!!
Sanford & Jinghal can leave their $’s on the table; Ahnold has already said he’d take it.
God, I wish we had Kucinich as Speaker. He’d already have grabbed these ‘Party first’ a-holes & made a public spectacle of them.
Time to kick ass & take names, not kiss ass & drop names…
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pmspencers mom Says:
Fine. Don’t take the f’ing money. Watch what the people hurting in your states have to say at the polls next election.
I hope it’s more in the line of pitchforks, tar and feathers. Reprehensible!!
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pmshoeless Says:
What is the problem? Most of the federal revenues come from blue states anyway.
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You do raise an interesting point here, shoeless.
GOOPers are notorious for calling for “fiscal responsibility” yet many of GOOPer Congresscritters were elected from RED STATES… or in other parlance – the perpetual WELFARE states. Kind of ironic, huh?
Now… given out perilous fiscal state these days, the FED just might be forced to cut off some of those endlessly needy supplicants in the near future, giving these same righteous GOOPers a taste of the “fiscal responsibility” they’re always demanding… at the direct expense of the very people who… put them… into… office… to get them that Federal support… they depend on…
No, wait… that didn’t come out right… must mean sumpin else…
Lemme see… GOOPer Congresscritters, from Red States, are allus demanding more fiscal restraints… but their states are perpetually begging hand outs… from the Blue States, whom the Red Staters are allus accusing of being for welfare… man… kinda makes yer head hurt, huh?
Talk about confusing… no wonder GOOpers allus wanna rag on flag burning and gay marriage, huh?
Oh, look… sumpin shiny!
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:12 pmkrystalviews,
I’ve been a Democrat my whole life, and in Texas for most of my life. I can say without fear of contradiction that Texas will never be a place where Democrats hold anything more than a few token seats. My votes have been wasted my whole life.
These people are bigoted, black-hearted, backward assed, rednecks, and that wont soon change
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pmOne of Obama’s talents is his ability to calmly call the childishness what it is. In this case, petty campaigning.
OTOH – I wonder how NOLA will vote when Jindal runs for the next time.
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:17 pmMy best advise to Obama is – FCUK THE REPUBLICANS
Let the Red State Losers rot, they are Amerca hating regressive idiots.
Let them believe that dinosaurs lived along side man.
Let them believe in a Invisible magical faerie in the sky, who was made up by sheep herders.
They will say that they don’t want the money…and then will take it away…
….then make political hay about how wasteful it is.
So…PHUCK THE REPUBLICANS.
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:21 pmTo expose the American Taliban Members as the hypocrites and the America-haters they are, all President Obama had to was say, “I’m going to help the American people!”, and they all screamed in terror and cringed. See? Had President Obama said, “I am going to help the CEO’s and the uber wealthy!”, they would all be worshiping President Obama right now.
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:24 pmInteresting point TRoS. Red states get more dollars per capita. These are the same folks always calling for a flat tax. How about and equal amount of money per capital going to each and every state instead.
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:25 pmWho else is grateful for the way the President shames those gopers with such style and grace on an almost daily basis?
I know I am.
re: Obama, the “p” in “pwned” = “Presidential”.
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pmThe White House pool report noted that during his comments about the “cable chatter,” Obama looked directly “towards Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and S.C. Gov. Mark Sanford, who were to his right.” Other Republican governors who have said they may turn down some recovery funds: Butch Otter (ID), Sarah Palin (AK), Sonny Perdue (GA), Rick Perry (TX), and Bob Riley (AL).
I cannot see that there is the slightest need to retain civilized relations with any of those states. In sum, and individually, they consume more of the “commons” than they return to it.
Scroom.
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:42 pmrock911 says
I’ve been a Democrat my whole life, and in Texas for most of my life. I can say without fear of contradiction that Texas will never be a place where Democrats hold anything more than a few token seats. My votes have been wasted my whole life.
These people are bigoted, black-hearted, backward assed, rednecks, and that wont soon change
I couldn’t agree with you MORE !!!
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:44 pmBut I also heard for 18 months… “America will NEVER elect a black man for president”. Texans are also very arrogantly selfish and narrow-minded people. They are only loyal to themselves. When the sh*t hits the fan…..they crawl under the tree that gives them the most shade. They always do!
Those governors can send their money to Ohio, we need so much help here, and I bet Michigan will gladly accept their share also. Honestly, how can they do this? You are going to sacrifice the people of your state so that you can run for President in 2012?! That’s the reason that I think they are doing it and I say, shame on them. Thank God, Ted Strickland is our governor here in Ohio. I believe he will take any moneys we can get and say thank you in the process.
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:44 pmOTOH – I wonder how NOLA will vote when Jindal runs for the next time.
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Not to worry. Folks say they’re slowly turning NOLA into a gated community for wealthy whites and servant blacks (again).
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:46 pmShayne Says:
Interesting point TRoS. Red states get more dollars per capita. These are the same folks always calling for a flat tax. How about and equal amount of money per capital going to each and every state instead.
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I dunno, Shayne… true fiscal responsibility would prolly require the parting out of the red states and selling the rest off as scarp… seeing as they can never support themselves on what they don’t earn…
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:49 pmBert – where’d ya get the bucket of pills?
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:05 pmThe repugnican cancervatives become more and more worthy of pity. What a pathetic philosophy os life !
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:06 pmGeez, PhilbyBuster, is that all ya got? Weak shit…
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:07 pm(i think bert’s still runnin’ on “Operation Chaos” – thinks he has an “assignment” from Rush on how to “sow havoc” and whatnot.)
kinda like those lost japanese soldiers after WWII…
except not quite as bright.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:07 pmCome on Bert – Come on Pillsbury,
you know your raw-nerved angst turns me on -
don’t hold back – don’t tease me with your manliness…
tell me what you really think.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:12 pmMr. Philby Says:
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“There’ll Be ‘Ample Time For Campaigns Down The Road”
That’s awful rich coming from someone who spent his whole time as a senator “campaigning.”
Hypocrite much, obama?
February 23rd, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Coming from someone who voted for a wrinkled old moronic Senator for president and who never introduced a useful piece of legislation in an almost 3 decades career in DC , that’s almost mildly amusing ……..
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:14 pmBert, dude. The Red Dawn shout out doesn’t help your credibility here.
You see, we liberals and progressives have something on our side; we call it the TRUTH. In the end, justice prevails and truth is rewarded. The American electorate finally saw through the haze of Republican lies and obfuscations. Obama won with an electoral college landslide, and more of a public majority than Bill Clinton.
He has accomplished in one month what your Fuhrer Herr Bu$h managed to do in almost a year. Of course, he was on vacation for a lot of that time.
At any rate Mr. Bert “Wolverine’ Red Dawn guy, you arguments are as old and as lame as your apparent favorite movie.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:16 pmYou’ll have to forgive Bert – he’s trippin on Oxy and speed.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:17 pmWhat red state trailer park did philby come from. Lame assed stuff.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:18 pmWell, Phuckby and Barf are shinning examples of why we should just..
…PHUCK THE REPUBLICANS
Their posts show just who regressive and stupid they are, and they will remain…
…you can cure ignorance…but stupid is forever.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:19 pmBERT CONVY Says:
*WOLVERINES!
I take it you are in Michigan… how’s it going with that double digit inflation?
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:19 pmOr are you too busy with your stupid and sophomoric feud with the Spartans to notice?
I have never understood such an ignorant and meaningless rivalry as the buttheaded Michigan boys and their Strohs fueled foolishness.
It’s one of the reasons I left my home state to Engler, Van Andel and DeVos and their fellow Republicrooks.
Oh, not to forget the butcher for hire Erik Prince….
“that double digit inflation?”
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:19 pmsorry, double digit unemployment…
Now you’re bringin’ it, Bert – attaboy…don’t be shy now…
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:22 pmOh, old Barf Convoy is just spouting the new propaganda the Glen “Liar” Beck has been spewing lately…
….that the repukes are going to have a revolution on taxes in 2014…
…America haters united against America…worse than the taliban.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:23 pmMore racist crap from the troll named after a muppet.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:23 pmI am an Alabama resident and I just wanted to say Bob Riley is a poohead. Thank you.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pmYo! Bert! Ernie’s looking for you. Something about being late for the skit. Again.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pmPhuckby do you change your wet sheets or your diapers everyday?
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:27 pmJust knowing that you’re in a heavily-armed militia bunker somewhere has me all hot and bothered Bert.
If I came over with a couple cases of ammo and a few beers, would you share some spam with me?? We could just see where it goes from there, mm’k?
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:27 pmBERT CONVY Says:
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So let me get this strait, Obama who made it to ONLY 40-some days of work as a congressman after getting elected, the boy who has done nothing But campaign since he got out of his federally funded college days has the stones to tell anyone that there will be time “later, after they get done worshiping him” to campaign? Is that what you loons are trying to defend?
Yippie-Ki-Yay & Stay away from bridge salesmen
*WOLVERINES!
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
As opposed to the horseshit former pilot you voted for , who finished 4th from the bottom of his joke naval academy graduating class out of 800 , and which granddad and dad got him into in the 1st place ?
Shut up , you rube pissant…….
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:27 pmBERT CONVY Says:
*WOLVERINES!NOPE…WYOMING.
Got it. Let us know how your sheep/human genome project turns out.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:27 pm[imagine how crazed these guys will be after a year. i for one can't wait]
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:28 pmBert, you mean people don’t like to be invaded and occupied? You mean they turn into insurgent evil-doers? Fancy that!
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:29 pmBert hearts Insurgents.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:30 pmHey Bert – want some freedom fries with that?
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:31 pmNevar,
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:32 pmMichael Moore was one good thing to come out of Michigan. Gerald Ford, not so much.
I’m still trying to get “Turning Japanese” out of my head! Thanks a lot.
“WOLVERINES Were the Americans that stood against the insurgents in the classic movie RED DAWN.”
I thought they were the insurgents… you know, fighting against the occupiers…
Is your Spam past the due date?
Oh, and Red Dawn is a classic in the same sense that any old car is a classic after 25 years…
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:33 pmYou know, I have this vision of Mr. Bert Wolverine Red Dawn Guy: Remember the militia movement of the early, mid 90’s? A bunch of fat ass rednecks running around the woods with their Colt AR-15’s playing GI Joe, hunting for those black UN helicopters?
There you have it, and there you have the modern GOP in a nutshell, or rather, a wing nut shell…
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:35 pmThe INSURGENT Americans that stood against the invaders/occupiers, moron! You got it backwards!
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:36 pmCall ‘em out, Mr. President. Shove it in their faces. Show their stupidity for the world to see.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pmKeith Says:
Nevar,
Michael Moore was one good thing to come out of Michigan.
Heh. I don’t mean to rip too hard on the Michigan boys, after all, I was one. There’s some other good things to come out of there as well, like Uncle Ho, and Dr.XJ and a few others. Jennifer Granholm has faced a monumental task, inheriting the fiasco of John Englers debacle.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pmGlad you liked the tune…
;)
citizen_pain, Wasn’t Timothy McVeigh really into that movement?
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:37 pmAnything, to keep a handsome devil like you around, Pillsbury.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:38 pmKeith Says:
“The INSURGENT Americans that stood against the invaders/occupiers, moron! You got it backwards!”
That’s what I thought, WTF is Bert smoking? He should know better than to collect his cowpies from under the oil rigs.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:39 pmOh yes he was. And I’d bet if you ask Mr. Bert Wolverine Red Dawn Guy, he’d say McVey was a hero.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:39 pmAnd Eric Rudolph?
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:41 pmObama Hits GOP Governors Rejecting Stimulus Funds: There’ll Be ‘Ample Time For Campaigns Down The Road’
fine and good.
What I want to hear again from now President Obama:
Then let’s see the breaking news of Karl Rove’s arrest.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm“A bunch of fat ass rednecks running around the woods with their Colt AR-15’s playing GI Joe, hunting for those black UN helicopters?”
In Wyoming, Bert and his buddies play army in the oil fields. They hide behind the drill rigs and stalk the storage tanks. When they run out of beer they crawl into the natural gas pumping stations and hyperventilate.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:44 pmSame goes I bet. Chances are Bert Wolverine Red Dawn guy has a cut out of Bill Clinton behind his rusted out double wide and practices head shots with his Chinese assault rifle, in just the way G. Gordon Liddy instructed him to.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:45 pmy’know what?
I think Bert really is Ted Nugent.
what up, Nuge?
hey, Nuge, tell us again how you handled’em down at the Draft Board back in the day. That’s a good one.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:45 pmThe White House pool report noted that during his comments about the “cable chatter,” Obama looked directly “towards Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and S.C. Gov. Mark Sanford, who were to his right.
OMG!! He shot them a stern and withering look, the old stanky eyeball. I wonder if Grannie from Kenya taught him that one? Makes me shudder just to think of it.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:51 pmbetter rub some witch protection lotion on yourself, jammie
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:51 pmtombaker,
I know how Nuge did it! He went in with his clothes full of his own filth.
I went to the physical with my best bud, Wayne LaPierre (N.R.A.). He told me he got a friendly doctor to say he had a nervous condition—and that it was false. Thus he got out with a low lottery number. I had a high number.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:52 pmy keith – if bert really is the Nuge, I knew that would send him packin.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:53 pmthere’s just something kinda “gonzo” about those Bert posts.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:53 pmCall ‘em out! There is no need for this now. I know if you simply look at it as “throwing” money at the problems in the states, you will only see the forest for the trees. But if these guys(and gal) would actually LOOK at the situations in their states, I’m sure they could find some manner of investing the money in the right areas so they can get the most out of it. That’s the whole purpose of the state aid portion of this stimulus. Each state has its own issues and set of problems, but its up to the Governors to address these with the money as best as they can, so collectively the country can start moving as an economy as a whole.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:56 pmjacambece,
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:56 pmYou’re in the debt collection business? That’s why you love Republican rule?
Bert had to go whack one.
February 23rd, 2009 at 3:57 pmWhy do the Republicans insist on becoming even more irrelevant?
We’re moving into the worst recession most people alive have ever seen. Government aid is the ONLY thing that’s going to pull us through. And yet they keep up this bullshit.
Sigh.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:01 pmInteresting that there are people starving in all of the states where these Govenors “Govern.”
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:02 pmdon’t jinx it tigger.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:03 pmSo why do you care if the governor’s take the money or not? It’s money coming OUT of your pocket they’re rejecting; they are not rejecting money going IN to your pockets. The less this ridiculous spend-a-thon costs our children the better.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:06 pmmchamma Says:
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So why do you care if the governor’s take the money or not? It’s money coming OUT of your pocket they’re rejecting; they are not rejecting money going IN to your pockets. The less this ridiculous spend-a-thon costs our children the better.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Because the worst presidency during the last 8 years was so “cost efficient”………..?
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:08 pmBERT CONVY Says:
I have news for the messiah, just under half of the American voters voted against YOU.
Why do you people keep calling him the messiah? Planning a crucifixion?
And quit pretending like a loss is a victory. A lot of the people who voted for McCain thought Obama was OK, but they liked McCain better. Only a portion of less than half of the electorate voted “against” Obama.
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BERT CONVY Says:
Yeah I know “You won” so the rest of us are supposed to just like it or lump-it… Nope, B.O. we plan on voting your a$$ out in 4 years and thanks to this trillion dollar democratic swindle the GOP will be back in Two. (in time to stop 3/4 of it).
Your game plan is basically to destroy the country (more) to get elected. Good luck with that.
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BERT CONVY Says:
So let me get this strait, Obama who made it to ONLY 40-some days of work as a congressman…
Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress. Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become law since he joined the Senate in 2005. Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate. Link.
If he did all that in only 40 days, then it’s still impressive. But that 40 day thing is a lie anyways.
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BERT CONVY Says:
WOLVERINES Were the Americans that stood against the insurgents in the classic movie RED DAWN. Hollywood’s attempt to portray Americans who would not be subjugated by tyrants. You wouldn’t understand.
What I don’t understand is how it’s relevant to anything. It just makes you sound like a howling lunatic.
KHAAANNNN!!!!
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:27 pmBERT CONVY Says:
I have news for morons like YOU. You are stupid. You are a worthless punk. A RePUNKlican weasel. You are irrelevant. We stopped listening to the terminally ignorant like you LONG ago and America stopped listening a few years ago. You can snivel whine and throw your tantrums but they only reinforce what we already know about you. You are too stupid to be taken seriously. Do the world a favor and give yourself a vascectomy with a rusty piano wire. It is the ONLY good you can possibly do for the world. Our gene pool simply cannot take any more pollution from ignorance of your level. You give morons everywhere a bad name.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:29 pmThere’s going to be ample time for campaigns down the road.
This is such an elegant way to put it. I never liked the “playing politics” accusation, mainly because it was so abused – it’s not playing, politics is how we decide things in a Democracy. But pointing out that we’re nowhere near an election cycle and there’s no point to the grandstanding is a much more specific, and therefore likely valid, criticism.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:29 pmI cannot believe the arrogance of this President. Some GOP Governors have actual conservative principles. If a Governor does not want to commit to paying part-time workers unemployment, that does not make it a political game. Some (and I mean most) disagree with the majority of what is in this stimulus package.
Whatever happened to rough times and hard work? If you suckle from the tit of the Government you will only lose liberty. How we have bastardized to Constitution. This is the same garbage Bush did, didn’t you all vote for change?
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:30 pmRP2012 Says:
You have been brainwashed well grasshopper. The stupid is STRONG in you. You regurgitate what Rush told you to think with pride. WHY are you so proud to be so stupid is the question but that is for others. You have become a superb propaganda parrot and since you are too stupid to ever think for yourself that is all you will ever be. Good luck with that.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:35 pmRP2012 Says:
I cannot believe the arrogance of this President. Some GOP Governors have actual conservative principles
Like Sarah Palin and her socialist redistribution of oil profits among Alaskans.
Get a life you clown.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:37 pm“At any rate Mr. Bert “Wolverine’ Red Dawn guy, you arguments are as old and as lame as your apparent favorite movie.”
Hey! Hate the troll, not the movie. I phucking love that movie (for some reason).
What Bert doesn’t understand is that, while Obama was “campaigning” for a ridiculous amount of time, he wasn’t doing it by holding up help that Americans desperately needed.
There is a HUGE difference and if they’ve got a better solution than the stimulus bill that actually addressed the situation, they should have put up or shut up.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:49 pmmchamma Says:
“So why do you care if the governor’s take the money or not?”
Because it’s not for the governor’s, it’s for the people who really need it right now… you do get that, don’t you?
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:51 pmOr do you just pick on poor people because you think you’re better than them?
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:16 pmRP – Welfare works great for Lockheed – why nobody else?
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:16 pmThey dont want you succeed mr obama, they don’t care about their state citizens, all they care is themself. forget them, do what u think is right for you to do for this country.
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:20 pmRP2012 Says:
I cannot believe the arrogance of this President. Some GOP Governors have actual conservative principles.
If they were in Congress they could shape national policy. They’re not in Congress. Their jobs are to perform the executive functions of their states. Refusing to implement the portion of Federal programs aimed at their state is refusing to do their job. If they don’t believe in government doing things, they shouldn’t run for Governor.
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RP2012 Says:
Whatever happened to rough times and hard work?
Times are rough, and people are working hard. It sounds to me like you want everyone in the country to be as poorly off as possible.
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:49 pmRED DAWN. Hollywood’s attempt to portray Americans who would not be subjugated by tyrants. You wouldn’t understand.
Saw it in High School, when the country was brain-washed by the “Cold War”.
Some of us grow up, and learn along the way.
Obviously, you wouldn’t understand.
February 23rd, 2009 at 5:50 pmThey came back when Bush got into office. Where have you been?
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:20 pmRED DAWN political porn for delusional wingnuts. One of the problems with the braindead hivemind is they learned everything they know about foriegn policy from watching Red Dawn and John Wayne movies and everything they know about torture from watching 24. This fixation on the fantasies they watch on TV leaches into their lives and makes them inordinatly fond of the fantasies they make up in their heads or hear from Rush Limbaugh. Reality is for those with enough higher brain function to know it from FICTION.
February 23rd, 2009 at 6:49 pmElBruce Says:
If they were in Congress they could shape national policy. They’re not in Congress. Their jobs are to perform the executive functions of their states. Refusing to implement the portion of Federal programs aimed at their state is refusing to do their job. If they don’t believe in government doing things, they shouldn’t run for Governor.
The Governor is a STATE official elected to run the state and do what’s the best for that state. They do not work for and pander to the federal government. Have you ever heard of the tenth amendment? There is a reason that the Constitution limits the power of the federal government! But as we all know Washington has bastardized the Constitution and has been abusing and growing their power since the 1930’s.
ElBruce Says:
Times are rough, and people are working hard. It sounds to me like you want everyone in the country to be as poorly off as possible.
That comment is actually laughable. I have the utmost sympathy for the people who are struggling right now. I am from Detroit for God sake, my whole family in some way works for or with the BIG 3. At any rate, it is not the job of the federal government to bail out failing banks and corporations! Some people do not have enough of an income to own a home so like myself, you rent. I work hard and one day I will own a home….That is how America works. I don’t even want to get into the economic repercussions for this madness.
February 23rd, 2009 at 9:12 pmRP2012 Says:
You really are a cute but ignorant propaganda parrot arent you. Lets see. The arrogance of the President came from Hannity and the basterdization of the Constitution came from Rush, which is why you repeated it. Got anything from Coulter? Booooore? How about the Weinerdog Savage? I swear if a moron like you EVER had an original thought you would think it was a brain aneurysm. You do understand you are very stupid right?
February 23rd, 2009 at 11:08 pmNice try but I don’t listen to Hannity or Rush. (obviously you do) In the words of C.S Lewis “No one has ever had an original thought, we are all just plagiarists in one form or another.”
Your argument (or lack there of) leads you to hurling insults. Well I’ll answer your question, no I am not stupid. A person like yourself who has no real counterpoints to the foundation of my argument realizes 1)I am right or 2) is ” very stupid”. So which is it? Maybe EugeneDebs you could try to grow up and respectfully disagree with opposition.
February 24th, 2009 at 12:37 amRP2012 Says:
Sure you came up with the EXACT SAME WORDING of your argument as Hannity AND the same argument as Limbaugh right after they did. RIIIIGHT. You are stupid. You know it and I know it. That is why you have wingnut screechmonkeys do your thinking for you. I dont BELIEVE you just came up with them by osmosis.
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200902230016
Barack Obama is “arrogant,” “dishonest,” and “radical,” Fox News’ Sean Hannity announced during a single 10-second chunk of prime-time TV last week
Then he goes on to talk about the assault on the constitution. The sucking on the tit of government is also words RIGHT OUT OF HIS MOUTH he has been saying it for years. You are either lying or you got them from someone who GOT them from Hannity and Limbauh.
I could easily tear your stupid arguments apart just like I have done MANY times before but what is the point. It has been done countless times before. Explain to hungry children how bad they are being hurt by being fed.
Again what is the point. We demolish these idiotic heard a thousand times before talking points you wont be able to answer them like either you couldnt last time or no mindless conservative has done before then you will just repeat them again. This isnt the special olympics. I am not going over the same stupid arguments over and over and over and OVER just because YOU only heard them recently and actually think they make sense. They are cliches of idiocy. Only a moron would take them seriously anyway a heartless moron at that. Find another sucker. I am tired of the treadmill of rehashing age old arguments brainwashed into new recruits of the Limborg hivemind.
February 24th, 2009 at 1:23 amBy the way. CS Lewis was a mediocre writer at best so I understand originality wasnt his strongpoint. Except for the Screwtape letters every book I ever read of his was cliched and boring. Though I have to admit the Screwtape letters was astonishingly good.
February 24th, 2009 at 1:24 amAlso I forgot to put this in my first post. You cant really expect anyone to believe that you came up with Obama is assaulting or basterdizing the Constitution all on your own after 8 years of Bush ACTUALLY assaulting the constitution with his unitary executive nonsense, logic cannot get you there. It isnt happening. It is nothing BUT a talking point.
February 24th, 2009 at 1:30 amDude… you guys really need to leave Red Dawn out of it. It’s up there with my other favorie 80’s movies like The Breakfast Club and Real Genius.
You’re about to hurt my feelings.
February 24th, 2009 at 11:02 amLike I said, you still have no valid points against my argument. You have the time to write three paragraphs to why I might be quoting two DJ’s I don’t listen to or watch. You also must not have read my posts, I said that WASHINGTON (as a whole) for the past 80 years or so has been bastardizing the Constitution. President Obama is very arrogant. You are also very arrogant and not to mention a very weak and hateful progressive. You will grow out of it when you have to actually pay your taxes. And just for the record your starving children argument doesn’t work. That’s what church’s and non for profit charities are for, not the Federal Governement. Why don’t you read your Constitution and Declaration of Independence. But you are right on one thing, my arguments are not my own, they are our founding fathers.
“A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned – this is the sum of good government. ”
Thomas Jefferson
“The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.”
Ben Franklin
“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
- Samuel Adams.
I could go on and on and on. But I feel you will not actually come back with any sound opposition. Just try to belittle someone you don’t know behind the safety of your computer screen.
February 24th, 2009 at 11:15 amRP2012,
I’ll bite.
“I cannot believe the arrogance of this President. Some GOP Governors have actual conservative principles.”
If this is true, then where were their “principles” under Bush? Their opposition is so transparently political and he is calling them out. There is a major difference between “arrogance” and keeping it real to achieve results.
“Some (and I mean most) disagree with the majority of what is in this stimulus package.”
Based on?
“Whatever happened to rough times and hard work?”
These are most certainly “rough times”. The problem is for the people willing to work hard for whom there is no work available, hence: “unemployment”. We are in different times. This money will go directly back into the economy. (State economies included). What is so difficult to understand about that?
“If you suckle from the tit of the Government you will only lose liberty.”
If the system you have in place isn’t working, try something else. -666lattes
Whatever “Socilaism” tendancies these “conservatives” are afraid of, they only have themselves and their own policies to blame for its arrival.
While they may have the right, (although state legislators may be able to overrule them), it is wrong for these Governors to deny the help that their constituents need. Let the individuals decide whether or not to use the help. You don’t know their situations and may one day (soon) find yourself in a similar predicament. “There go I” and all.
February 24th, 2009 at 1:38 pmLORD, You have promised in Your holy and true Word to provide. Jehovah Jireh, it is written in the Holy Scriptures of Philippians 4:19, that You will meet all of ours needs according to Your glorious riches in Christ Jesus. Your children born of Your Spirit – born-again sons and daughters -are trusting You to do just that on a daily basis.
LORD, You have also stated in Matthew 5:45, that You cause Your sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. So, I pray that You move by Your Spirit on the hearts and minds of the members of Congress, governors and all elected officials to submit to the will of Your Word, so that the people that they have been elected to work for will receive teh full benefits outlined in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Bill that Your servant Pres. Barack Obama has signed into law. And if they are hell-bent on opposing and hindering, I ask You to remove them from office !
LORD, I ask that You continue to bless and guide Barack in Your will. It is in Jesus’ Name I pray and believe what I have asked for will be done. Thank You. Amen.
February 24th, 2009 at 4:34 pm666lattes
Good arguments, I disagree on the change the system comment especially when the system that was and is being used is not free market conservatism ( or Libertarianism which is where I lean) and not all Governors agreed with bush, Liberals need remember that a whole lot of us true conservatives despise what the Bush did and stood for.
Stimulus… well I’m going on polls and economic analysis I have read. I’m sure that we could both easily find opposite views on the internet and I realize that.
“Whatever “Socilaism” tendancies these “conservatives” are afraid of, they only have themselves and their own policies to blame for its arrival.”
You are absolutely right.
THANK YOU 666lattes for a real discussion that is all I want when I come here. It stimulates and makes me think!
February 25th, 2009 at 12:27 am