Colorado state senator says HIV testing for pregnant women rewards ‘sexual promiscuity.’
Colorado state senator says HIV testing for pregnant women rewards ‘sexual promiscuity.’
Today, Colorado State Sen. Dave Schultheis (R) caused outrage by announcing that he would vote against a bill requiring HIV tests for pregnant women because the disease “stems from sexual promiscuity” and he doesn’t think the government should reward “unacceptable behavior.” Schultheis explained his motives before casting the lone vote against the bill:
We do things continually to remove the negative consequences that take place from poor behavior and unacceptable behavior, quite frankly, and I don’t think that’s the role of this body.
As a result of that I finally came to the conclusion I would have to be a no vote on this because this stems from sexual promiscuity for the most part, and I just can’t vote on this bill and I wanted to explain to this body why I was going to be a no vote on this.
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Oh my GOD has this guy lost his mind?
February 25th, 2009 at 6:56 pmWell, we let republicans keep breathing – doesn’t that reward stupidity?
February 25th, 2009 at 6:58 pmThere is definitely something wrong with this man.
February 25th, 2009 at 6:59 pmThis goes beyond the false “compassion” shown by repugniscum.
Are they all so ignorant about sex as they seem to indicate by their ignorant and ridiculous comments?
I can’t take it anymore (today). Rarely has TP had a string of such right wing a**holery in a row. Seriously, if I keep looking at this I’m going to lose my mind.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:00 pmI’m off. I’ll check in tomorrow when (hopefully) some sanity has returned to our politics.
Doctors need to know to appropriately treat mother and child in utero. So he wants the hospital or medical clinic to eat the cost?
Here’s some poor behavior, Congressman Shultheis, Larry Craig, David Vitter, Mark Foley, Tim Mahoney. Let’s not pay their health insurance.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:03 pmRepubs = the idiots just keep giving!
February 25th, 2009 at 7:03 pmAre you fracking Kidding ME? Frell!
Vyan
February 25th, 2009 at 7:04 pmIs this guy from the military-evangelical complex in Colorado Springs? What a condescending, misogynistic, patronizing, petty, male chauvinistic, spiteful, meddling, priggish, PIG.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:06 pmWhat is going on in Colorado? Something in the water? This is the 2nd repugnant republican spewing nonsense today. Is this man losing his mind? He needs to retire! What if a woman gets pregnant by rape or incest? Answer that Schulteist.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:08 pmA great day for Colorado politics.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:09 pmThe ignorance that is so rampant in the Repignican Party and its mantra is absolutely boundless. I don’t know how else to describe it.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:14 pm#9….you mentioned repugnant republican
Just call them Repugnicans. I’ve been using that word for several years and it feels so refreshing to say and type it.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:16 pmAre ALL Republicans self centered ignorant anti-Christian demi-gods or do they BECOME that way from the meetings????
February 25th, 2009 at 7:19 pmI guess the corollary to that reasoning is that sexual promiscuity are punishable by death.
Reichwingers, and their friends the Christofascists live in a strange, strange world…
February 25th, 2009 at 7:26 pmare = is
February 25th, 2009 at 7:27 pmI guess this republitard is not aware that alot of women aquire HIV and other STIs from their cheating husbands.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:27 pmBeing tested for HIV is not a reward for anything, by any stretch of the imagination.
Geeeeez.
With all the testing, probing, prying and sonic assault involved with pregnancy today, one more test that could have a lifelong benefit to mother and child is nothing.
This wacktoid’s rationale is astoundingly absurd.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:29 pmSomebody should just flush this rightwing buffoon down the toilet.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:32 pmOMFG! What the flock is he even talking about? An AIDS test promotes sexual promiscuity? Doesn’t the fact that the woman is already pregnant sort of indicate that sex has already occured? I’m not implying that it was promiscuity that led to the pregnancy, but other than that happy myth about Jesus’ mother, I don’t recall any other “virgin births” and, as the GOOPers prove over and over, even a monogamous wife is at risk because of her GOOP husband’s behavior.
They are rapidly moving from the Party of NO to the Party of MO, and in MORON!
PEACE
February 25th, 2009 at 7:34 pmto Jess Wonderin… CPAC is having its annual pow-wow in DC this weekend.. I’m sure over there you’ll find plenty of the stuff that makes them BECOME what they are….;)
(closing speaker at this pow-wow: you guessed it — the one and only PRIMO rabble-rouser and demagogue in the country: the big fat idiot himself…..;)
not kidding..
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/05/limbaugh-cpac/
this is who these folks now look UP to… unbelievable, when you think about it..)
February 25th, 2009 at 7:34 pmTell it to Elizabeth Glaser, you twit.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:34 pmCurlew Says:
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#9….you mentioned repugnant republican
Just call them Repugnicans. I’ve been using that word for several years and it feels so refreshing to say and type it.
Yeah, I like that Repugnicans!
February 25th, 2009 at 7:35 pmUpdate:
February 25th, 2009 at 7:38 pmHe isn’t through yet with his insanity…
http://coloradoindependent.com/22746/state-senator-hiv-babies-are-punishment-for-promiscous-moms
My money is on Dave Schultheis being yet another preachy, self-righteous, pompous reichwinger blowhard who will caught in an ongoing gay extra-marital affair.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:38 pmHe’s the senator representing Colorado Springs.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:40 pmSay no more, say no more…
No wonder they are the party that will be extinct in four more years. The internet will enable us to educate the masses of their stupidity.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:41 pmOk, let me see if I’ve got this right —
They don’t want to give girls HPV vaccines because it will make them want sex.
They don’t want to give HIV test to pregnant ladies because, obviously, they once wanted sex.
I wish I was a Republican politician so I could think about sex all day.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:44 pmI’m beginning to believe that the single requirement for being accepted into the GOP (other than overt perversion and hypocrisy) is a room temperature IQ.
This guy obviously hasn’t had a normal sexual experience (not the least of which could be called ‘promiscuous’) in a very, very long time.
Amazingly, these days you can spot the Republiscum by the way they look, speak, and act in public. Amazing.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:44 pmThe Repugs in Colorado are smoking some really bad shit. I guess that you could call it “a mile high”. Those buttwipes are really infected with Toxic Thought Syndrom.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:44 pm“What I’m hoping is that, yes, that person may have AIDS, have it seriously as a baby”
February 25th, 2009 at 7:45 pm~Colorado State Sen. Dave Schultheis (R) -the ‘R’ standing for both Republican and Retarded. But I repeat myself…
This coming from a man who probably hasn’t had sex for years w/out porn or viagara to help him out…
February 25th, 2009 at 7:46 pmRepublicans…. sexually oppressed, angry ancient white guys with nothing new to offer anyone on anything…they are polluting the human gene pool…
why is it that I always get snagged by the censors when attempting to describe the Repukes in the most apropos of adjectives….just happens to be douc*ebags!
February 25th, 2009 at 7:47 pmrealpat: Bingo! Just take a gander at this nerd and you can see that he hasn’t been sexually active in decades. That’s why his head is up his a$$.
February 25th, 2009 at 7:48 pmDoes he also think that Blood Sugar monitoring encourages gluttony???
February 25th, 2009 at 7:53 pmThe terrifying thing about this dim bulb’s statement is that, since he said it, there are significant numbers of people who will think he’s a hero, a maverick.
Wash your minds out with CSNY “Teach Your Children” and prepare to NOT teach the next generation this kind of unreasoning fear and hatred.
“Your’s is a vengeful, angry and hateful God— Please, come to Jesus instead.” Beth Elderton
February 25th, 2009 at 7:58 pmTWO republican lunatics from CO. in less than 24 hours!!! No wonder the state went democratic last year.
February 25th, 2009 at 8:14 pm“and he doesn’t think the government should reward “unacceptable behavior.”
The republicans’ ongoing campaign for religious behavior modification in the form of ‘moral blackmail.’
I hope your constituents understand that re-electing you would reward @sshat behavior…
February 25th, 2009 at 8:15 pmHepatitis and other food-bourn illnesses are spread due to poor hygene: Does this moron vote against restaurant regulations and inspections?
Idiot.
February 25th, 2009 at 8:23 pmto Rich H, who “can’t take it anymore”:)
you want some more right wing a**holery???? :) :)
did I fall asleep and wake up on April 1???
Limbaugh To Convene A ‘Female Summit’ To Figure Out Why Women Hate Him
February 25th, 2009 at 8:28 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/25/limbaugh-women/
I’m speechless. I guess all that sanctity of life is just a big lie.
February 25th, 2009 at 8:29 pmTotal goober.
February 25th, 2009 at 8:31 pmLet’s also stop testing for lung cancer since this only encourages smokers to smoke.
** sarcasm off **
February 25th, 2009 at 8:37 pmSchultheis is an idiot from Colorado Springs (El Paso County) home of Focus on (your own damn) Family and the nut jobs there. Colorado Springs has the largest base, and the densest population of evangelical churches and morally “superior” people of anywhere in the world I would guess. In one way it good to have them concentrated in one spot, the bad thing is Colorado Springs is a beautiful place and it is fouled with the Christian “better than thou” trash.
Colorado Springs home of rightous Rev. Ted Haggard crackhead gay bashing gay minister. No one there saw it.
“Intellectual sodomy, which comes from the refusal to be simple about plain matters, is as gross and abundant today as sexual perversion and they are nowise different from one another.” – Edward Dahlberg
February 25th, 2009 at 8:43 pmThe Ghost of Lee Atwater is alive and well and living in the G.O.P. He was a deplorable person and so is this guy!
February 25th, 2009 at 8:57 pmTo paraphrase Winston Churchill, HIV will eventually find a cure. This man will remain hopelessly stupid forever.
February 25th, 2009 at 9:07 pmYeah, all those kids want to catch the HIV because dying young is the new black!
Does this guy also sit on the state abstinence board? I want to know his views on the stork and promiscuity.
February 25th, 2009 at 9:17 pmDoesn’t Sen. Dave Schultheis have a wife or daughter(s) educated enough to help this excuse understand why a pregnant woman and the unborn baby might benefit from an HIV tests?
Isn’t there anyone in his office or among his circle with enough brains to give this man a clue?
This degree of ignorance on the part of Schultheis and so many in the Greedy Obstructionist Party and their base is truly frightening.
February 25th, 2009 at 9:18 pmThe man is a Republican. When you say that, you say everything.
February 25th, 2009 at 9:21 pmI wonder how many rapes this guy has committed. He whereof he speaks, right?
February 25th, 2009 at 9:41 pmYup, Sen. Schultheis, those sexually promiscuous fetuses must be taught that their behavior is just unacceptable and will not be rewarded!!
Oh. My. Aching. Head. The dumb just keep getting dumber, and then they just go flat out insane.
February 25th, 2009 at 9:49 pmRepublicans, I have your messages here… let’s see.
Oh yeah, Reality called. She said it’s sorry about the rough breakup you guys had, but she’s willing to get back together with you if you make it up to her and really,honestly try to pay attention to her more often. I think you should give her a call!
February 25th, 2009 at 10:01 pmAhhhh yes! That makes two wonderful representatives from my home state that are wingnut whackjobs!
February 25th, 2009 at 10:17 pmI thought the water there was good for making beer.
February 25th, 2009 at 10:29 pmIt’s only a matter of time before this loathesome reptile is found with slithering with prostitutes or minors of either sex. Anybody this judgmental, willfully ignorant and religiously arrogant must have some very dirty laundry in the closet.
February 25th, 2009 at 10:45 pmAre this guy’s parents brother and sister?
February 25th, 2009 at 11:21 pmIs the air in Colorado becoming even thinner?
February 25th, 2009 at 11:29 pmHave they opened the doors to all of the and let out all of the GOOPERS from the Asylums this week……..why do these irrelevant morons get any attention at all?
February 25th, 2009 at 11:51 pmAnother hypocrite.
SHE’S ALREADY PREGNANT FCUKWIT, LET HER CHECK THE CONDITION OF THE UNBORN CHILD.
They never cared about the unborn.
They just chose the opposite side of a liberal position and created an argument of it.
GET IN REPUKES FACES, AND SHAME THEM FOR THEIR UNHOLY IGNORANCE.
February 26th, 2009 at 12:07 amHow is an HIV test a reward?
February 26th, 2009 at 12:32 amYes, reward promiscuity with a god damn blood test! I’m sure that the fun of going into the public health clinic and getting stabbed in the arm by a resident doing their community service and then waiting for the phone call which will let them know whether they have contracted an STD or HIV is going to be so much fun that the girls are just going to go out and have sex in order to secure their place in line. If you offer scabies treatments and pap smears then even Dave Schultheis might be able to get laid.
February 26th, 2009 at 1:00 amSkullthighs says: I just can’t vote on this bill and I wanted to explain to this body why I was going to be a no vote on this.
You don’t have to explain, Skullthighs. We already know why you would vote against the bill: You’re a repuke.
February 26th, 2009 at 1:07 amnormalasf Says:
I wish I was a Republican politician so I could think about sex all day.
A goodly number of them have no sex life [except with their 5-fingered friend] UNLESS they “think.”
February 26th, 2009 at 1:15 am.
So, Colorado State Sen. Dave Schultheis (R) is against promiscuity and if people contract a venereal disease and pass it on to his daughter, don’t worry…
… None will ever be the wiser, NO?
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February 26th, 2009 at 1:16 amRepugnants must have a secret weapon… a time machine! They recruit these king of people from the 13th Century…
February 26th, 2009 at 2:42 amSomeone mentioned cases of rape or incest? Well, to a cancervative/repugnican (and, espescially, fundie xian) way of thinking there really are no such events, unless it happens to their family. All other women are strictly to blame for any sexual activity: one of the first thoughts to enter a cancervative or fundie head when hearing of a rape is, “What did she do to cause it?” (even fundie and cancervative women think in this manner). That is how they think, and that is why they do not accept the rape/incest arguments when legitimately presented to them.
Besides, HIV is a curse from gawd, and only sinners get it, because gawd protects the righteous. Gays and sinners get aids, and no one else (in fundie repug land, anyway — where there is no rape, only overly suggestive and promiscuous women…. which seems more like a fantasy for the partiarchial christo-bots).
When the stupid reaches a certain level, these idiots lose my compassion — I would NOT be sorry to hear of something ironic happening to these hateful, small-minded, closeted, toe-tapping theocratic twits.
“American Taliban” indeed….
February 26th, 2009 at 7:19 amHold on here…receiving a test to determine whether or not a woman, as a mother, has HIV and a likelihood of transmitting the virus to their unborn child “rewards” negative behavior?
This guy is completely INSANE. It sounds really unlike someone who most likely is full blown pro-life to want to risk exposing fetuses to a life of full blown AIDS.
Sick and disgusting.
February 26th, 2009 at 8:18 amHere’s a quote from this morons webpage:
“Tolerance is a virtue of a man without convictions.” — G. K. Chesterton
Seriously, this guy is a shithead.
February 26th, 2009 at 8:23 amI just e-mailed this clown the following:
Dear Senator Schultheis,
In casting the lone vote against SB 179 you have violated your own purported pro-life principles as laid out on your own website. I quote:
“If unborn children are indeed unique human beings, they deserve the full protection of the law. The issue is not the rights of the mothers but rather the humanity of the children. If these children are indeed human before birth, then their right to life outweighs their mothers’ right to choose.”
By voting against HIV tests for pregnant mothers, you are exposing innocent unborn children to potential HIV infection while in the womb. It is reprehensible and contradictory to your pro-life stance to punish an innocent unborn child and threaten them with a life potentially fraught with the perils of this terrible disease. As a pro-life representative of the 9th District of Colorado you have failed this cause tremendously with your short-sighted and callous vote.
To view an HIV test as a reward for the “promiscuous behavior” of the mother totally ignores the potential impact on the unborn child. It is imperative for you to issue an apology concerning your vote in this matter, as it in no way squares with your claim of wishing to protect the sanctity of life.
Sincerely,
A concerned citizen
February 26th, 2009 at 8:48 amThese people scare me.
February 26th, 2009 at 8:56 amSchultheis was interviewed by Dan Caplis and Craig Silverman on KHOW-AM in Denver The interview starts at about the 20 minute point during the 5:00 p.m. hour on Wednesday. It can be found here. http://www.khow.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=fullshows_capsil.xml
It is very entertaining.
February 26th, 2009 at 10:49 amDave, Sweetie, I think your photo says it all.
February 26th, 2009 at 11:13 amThis state senator implies that only women are promiscuous, and that women, once again, need to be punished for having engaged in sex. Does he not care for women who are faithful lovers but given HIV by their unfaithful, male, partners?? Evidently, once again, EVE gets the blame for everything.
By his logic, pregnancy testing, in and of itself, would reward the ‘unacceptable behavior’ of promiscuity, and chest xrays would promote smoking….
February 26th, 2009 at 11:57 amYou can tell just by looking at him that this fellow lacks “skills”.
February 26th, 2009 at 1:23 pmThe Republicans have now, and always have had, a strong “Puritan” streak – and we all know what happens to folks who are sexually repressed… This colors everything they do – the whole reason they were in such a snit over Bill Clinton and Monica was because there were no women (unpaid ones at least…) who were interested in having sex, especially oral sex, with them. Look at them – a big bunch of overfed, overloud, underintelligent, smarmy guys with absolutely NO sex appeal, no charisma. Then you had Clinton, smart, sexy, extra charisma – I was at a book signing of his once and I am telling you, there was a palpable aura in the building, and there were even a couple of 65-70ish women in the ladies room crying about how much they loved him! Of course, this is what the Repubs, with their Paula Jones thing, never got – Clinton TALKED women into sex; he certainly never had to “force” them, which was why the Jones thing was not believable. Anyhow, imagine some young girl coming to DC to “get her kneepads” with Rush, or with Cheney, or with Trent Lott or any of those guys – UGH. NOT likely, but of course, that was Monica’s plan (get her Presidential kneepads), and the R’s just couldn’t take it that he had so many female options and they had none. After all, they are the Entitled Rulers of the Universe and he was just a Rhodes Scholar with a poor single mother. So, they paid Ken Starr $40 million plus to make up for their own lack of sexual desireability and to punish Clinton for his. Sexual repression + envy = a big waste of taxpayer money!
February 26th, 2009 at 1:37 pmMAYBE, JUST MAYBE if the bill had been to provide curb-side / drive-up STD testing, there might be some possible shred of connection that it encouraged promiscuity.
But after you’re pregnant, you’re 1) probably not going to be having sex as much and 2) the fact that you have an STD means you can transmit it to your child with all sorts of serious, long-term effects.
February 26th, 2009 at 3:15 pmAnd if Tedd Haggard gets a woman pregnant that isn’t his wife?
February 26th, 2009 at 5:36 pmOh wait, that can’t happen…I’m sorry, he’s not that kind of an ADULTERER; he’s just sort of carries around the Wesson oil.
Oh, so it’s Tedd’s WIFE that caused his “problem” regardless of who, what, where he was sticking it…so it’s OK for the Neanderthal Jackass from Colorado legislature to pass judgment on other people’s lives…see, this is what will happen all over the place if these dominionist get power and start running their play book. This is the exact kind of world they envision.
Ultimately this man will have to answer to his voters — but if he were my senator I’d try to fire his ass – not just because of his clearly misogynistic comment – but for his sheer demonstrable stupidity.
Teh Stupid — it hurts.
February 26th, 2009 at 7:07 pm*
What is really sad is that there was a time in history when a Republican’s objection against mandatory HIV testing would be the very legitimate legal issue that it invades a person’s right to privacy.
“Anybody here…seen my old friend Abraham…can you tell me where he’s gone?…..”
February 26th, 2009 at 7:21 pmAs sent to State Senator Jennifer Veiga
jennifer.veiga.senate@state.co.us
Senator Veiga stated: “Sen. Schultheis drew the conclusion that anyone who may have HIV is sexually promiscuous,” said Sen. Jennifer Veiga, a Denver Democrat and the Legislature’s only openly lesbian member. “I find that offensive in the context of this bill and I find it offensive in the context of the gay community.”
Dear Jennifer:
Good start but that is an inadequate response. This vicious elected imbecile assumes that anyone who is by his definition “sexually promiscuous” DESERVES to die of some terrible disease. It is the same sort of Christian imbecility that Fleming faced after penicillin was found to cure venereal disease. People, like Schultheis, objected to man interfering with God’s punishment for sex…
The fact that this creep would extend that punishment to an unborn baby requires an even more perverted view of primitive theology. I have a different take. I assert that sex is better than Christianity; that believing lies never saved anybody and that if this ignorant, bigoted scum-bag is an embodiment of anything “Christian,” we should protect our children from it. I’m not a Christian, but Christianity seemed kinder when I was a kid. It has sure gone down hill since it got into bed with right-wing politicians.
Sincerely,
Joey Tranchina
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February 27th, 2009 at 11:39 pmAIDS Prevention ACTION Network
I see that ou didn’t accept the first posting of my missive to State Senator Schultheis. I will modify it for your delicate sensibilities. However since you published the true obscenity of your elected creeps’ comments, this causes me to question you sense of values.
As sent to without censorship:
DAVID SCHULTHEIS
Colorado State Senate, District 9
Office Location: 200 E. Colfax
Denver, CO 80203
Capitol Phone: 303-866-4835
E-mail: senatorschultheis@gmail.com
Senator David Schultheis:
I am writing for everyone who has ever cared for a child suffering with HIV;
for everyone who has held someone they loved while they died of AIDS.
You arrogant and ignorant piece of human garbage
F++K YOU.
Sincerely,
February 27th, 2009 at 11:45 pmJoey Tranchina
“Tolerance is a virtue of a man without convictions.” — G. K. Chesterton
I actually like the quote from Chesterton on this nitwit’s web page. Anyone who would tolerate this level of ignorance and cruelty in an elected official who represents their state has no sense of values and no convictions worthy of a human being.
The worst thing is that this hysterical nonsense is a response that he thought about; it was not a spur of the moment mistake. A commitment to cruelty, ignorance and evil is deeply ingrained in the character of this grown man. He is a truly perverse and perverted human being. He thought about this and nothing in his heart told him that it is wrong to ignore the health of a baby in order to punish the mother for a “sin” that he imagined she committed. There is something seriously wrong with this man.
I consider James Dobson to be the worst sort of demagogue; a truly power-corrupted and destructive human being. Yet, I would almost bet that James Dobson, himself, would not justify or defend this act of evil. There is no logic in theology so perverse as to willfully and intentionally condemn an unborn child to a life of suffering, disease and early death for a “sin” of its mother. Compared to this self-righteously irrational ugliness, abortion would be a sacrament. State Senator David Schultheis must be senile.
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