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Santorum At CPAC: ‘Absolutely We Hope That’ Obama Fails, ‘I Believe His Policies Will Fail’

Just before President Obama was inaugurated, hate radio host Rush Limbaugh declared, “I hope he fails.” Though some Republicans have distanced themselves from Limbaugh’s sentiment, conservatives at CPAC have fully embraced it.

In an interview with ThinkProgress today, radio host Mark Levin and former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA) added their voices to the chorus of conservatives hoping for Obama’s failure:

TP: What do you think about what Rush said about, I mean, do you hope, should we hope that President Obama fails?

LEVIN: Yes.

TP: Yes?

SANTORUM: If…absolutely we hope that his policies fail.

“I believe his policies will fail, I don’t know, but I hope they fail,” added Santorum. Watch it:

On his radio show yesterday, Limbaugh announced that its is a “dirty little secret” that “every Republican in this country wants Obama to fail, but none of them have the guts to say so.” “I am willing to say it,” added Limbaugh.

At CPAC at least, more and more conservatives are “willing to say it.” Appropriately, Limbaugh will be the closing speaker at the conference tonight.

Transcript:

THINK PROGRESS: What do you think about what Rush said about, I mean, do you hope? Should we hope that President Obama fails?

LEVIN: Yes.

TP: Yes?

SANTORUM: If…absolutely we hope that his policies fail.

TP: Ok.

SANTORUM: Because, well, we, I believe his policies will fail, I don’t know, but I hope they fail, I don’t know. But I believe they will fail.



1,144 Responses to “Santorum At CPAC: ‘Absolutely We Hope That’ Obama Fails, ‘I Believe His Policies Will Fail’”

  1. ralph the wonder llama says:

    How long before the first troll is scheduled to interpret for us what they really meant?


  2. christopher wiwi says:

    Traitor to his country along with the rest of the CPAC circus!


  3. christopher wiwi says:

    Ralph, The re-puke machine will be hiiting the airways soon,Flash, Fux news reveals what is meant by “we hope Obama fails”.


  4. KayInMaine says:

    Well of course the reich wing of the American Taliban hopes President Obama’s policies fail, because it will remind them how wrong they were and how their policies hurt America/Americans under their Fuhrer, George Bush!


  5. christopher wiwi says:

    Spin, spin and more spin from the Reich Wings talking heads on Sunday,they didn`t mean what they said, re-puke speak spin.


  6. neoconsrscum says:

    Ahhhh, Sanitorium- still around, pondering man- dog love.

    They both looked a bit ‘abashed’ ? uneasy- embarrassed?

    Go ahead, speak out- you all sound like the little kid on the playground who hopes I fall off the swing set, ’cause, ’cause, they din’t gimme your last piece of candy.


  7. upside99 says:

    And we all wonder why Lil’ Ricky lost his Senate seat!!


  8. Max-1 says:

    .

    What a wad this Santorum is…

    Anyone ever see Star Trek?
    Anyone ever see members of the crew hope Kirk failed?

    .


  9. rastaman says:

    HOW FROTHY!

    IF SANTORUM KNOWS ANYTHING….IT’S FAILURE.


  10. KayInMaine says:

    Sen. Susan Collins of Maine wholeheartedly supported Ricky Santorum in the 2006 race:

    http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09nF39O5Q80Ob/610x.jpg

    Nice.


  11. Daddy-O says:

    I will never forget, as long as I live, the awful feeling I got when George W. Bush took office illegally in 2001. Never. Ever.

    But never did I ever wish he would fail. On the contrary, I wished fervently that the term would pass as uneventfully as possible, like his dad’s did–sort of. Except for Gulf War I. And the recession. And the CIA spook links. And Dick Cheney as SecDef.

    Never mind.


  12. Del Capslock says:

    I’d be interested in pulling the thread on what they mean by ‘hoping he fails’. What do they think success would look like? The stimulus works, and the economy begins to recover? And that’s what they are hoping doesn’t happen? It’s one thing to say “I know this stimulus package will fail to meet it’s objectives”, but another thing entirely, to say you hope it won’t meet it’s objectives. That puts you in asshole territory, because it implies you would rather throw the country under the bus rather than see your worldview invalidated.
    Perhaps that is the heart and soul of conservatism.


  13. hanshiro says:

    If Obama succeeds, that will be a double whammy to the republicans; the democrats will succeed where they failed miserably, and a black man will succeed where a bunch of butt-kissing, corrupt, blithering white yes-men will have been a complete catastrophe.

    It’s the republican’s only hope and their solemn credo: Don’t create a better product, create a mediocre, half-@ssed product and block progress on better products. If a better product does somehow get through, hope it fails and start rumors to discredit its achievements. Republicans cannot operate on a level playing field.

    It’s the republican way; like bush, they are underachievers who want to appear superior without all the hassle of actually working fairly for it.


  14. Daddy-O says:

  15. Witch1 says:

    A reminder, we still can’t fix stupid…Blessings


  16. texaslady says:

    Too bad someone doesn’t point out the Budget wouldn’t have to be so big if infrastructure, FDA, EPA hadn’t been underfunded for 8 years and now it is catch up, if we can. Wouldn’t you like to try and point out to these loons facts and see what they would say ? Like the deficit bush has left which has to be paid for in the next few years along with the Stimulus ?


  17. trapper914 says:

    I doubt many will backpedal initially, because Limbaugh gives them cover. Thinking they answer to him rather than their constituents will be their undoing.

    Look at the poll numbers. Obama was up among even Republicans in Kos’s latest tracking poll. If the MSM reports every time a Republican “hopes Obama fails,” I have a feeling it won’t resonate too well.


  18. kasinca says:

    Ricky “man on dog” Santorum. Need I say more.


  19. barfly says:

    “I believe his policies will fail, I don’t know, but I hope they fail,” added Santorum.

    What ever happened to conservative certitude? For the past eight years, they were absolutely sure about EVERYTHING. Now that it’s all imploded, they fall back on, well we hope his policies fail. By saying they hope he fails, they are announcing they don’t know anything.

    It’s going to be awfully hard to regain that certitude, now that we have confirmation that they’re ignorant.


  20. Daddy-O says:

    hanshiro, you’ve hit a nail on the head.

    The Republicans and their base–the richest of the rich, the CEO class–had a business plan. It was: To loot the Treasury with no-bid contracts, endless war, fearmongering, a new McCarthyism, etc.

    The business plan had a shelf life. It was never meant to be permanent; most criminal activities are not sustainable.

    And now their party is over, and we’re footing the bill. As much as they’re whining right now, they have proven one thing: Crime DOES pay.


  21. texaslady says:

    Republicans, conservatives have one thing in common if you know them, it is fear that the big bad boogy man is coming to get them and only a strong dad will save them.
    Well there have been boogymen from day one and you need to save yourself not depend on someone else. They are such cowards.


  22. kasinca says:

    I never wished W Bush would fail but he did by doing all the things that president Obama is trying to do differently. Go figure. Wingnuts just are no that smart. Face it.


  23. hanshiro says:

    8. Max-1 Says: Anyone ever see Star Trek? Anyone ever see members of the crew hope Kirk failed?

    Only once, off the top ‘o me head, and that was the episode with Ben Finney, where Kirk was framed for murder.

    My geek side emerges…


  24. hanshiro says:

    …and of course, Ben Finney was out of his fcuking mind…


  25. Wulf says:

    I’m not sure I understand how this is different from… well, anybody else in the world. We all hope our opposition fails. That’s what it means to oppose them. We all do that.

    Don’t fault Santorum for wanting Obama’s policies to fail. Fault him for having bad policies himself.


  26. stateofthedivision says:

    AT&T and Google are only big corporate sponsors for CPAC.

    http://www.cpac.org/sponsors.html

    I find this ironic as both groups are in a position to spy on people. Recall how revolutionary protesters at the RNC meeting were treated? Police in riot gear and canes.

    CPAC speakers inciting revolution eat cake. Welcome to America, the land of the bizarre.


  27. stateofthedivision says:

    Optimize a system for one part, the whole is suboptimized.

    Optimize a company for CEO executive pay, the firm is suboptimized.

    Optimize a country for a political party, the whole is suboptimized.

    America has abysmal leadership in corporate board rooms and our hallowed halls of government.

    60-80% of people want business or the government to cover more health care. This isn’t new, it was that way for years under George W. Bush. Yet the current political will stands to be watered down by K Street lobbyists. A pox on the house of Santorum and all tribal leaders.


  28. kali90 says:

    this is actually good for us… the more these idiotic Repugs and right-wingers spew out this “we want him to fail” message the worse off they will be politically, I think.. they seem to not be thinking about this too much.. but well, these guys have never been known to be very keen thinkers now, have they?? what a bunch of sore losers, I swear…


  29. spencers mom says:

    I hope they continue down this path of anti-Obamaism because it is driving thinking people away from the GOOP in droves.

    I was out getting petition sigs last night (off-year judges election here in PA) and carried along voter regs for new/change registrations. Normally, I only canvas Dem voters, but with judges, we need to get both Dem and Rep signatures to get on the ballot.

    Each time I went to a GOPer door and they were willing to sign (mind you, this is just to get on the ballot, not a vote) I also asked if they needed to make any changes to their current registration and used address, phone# and party affiliation as examples.

    By just visiting around 30 household, both D’s and R’s, I reregistered two R’s to Independents. I’ll take it, because it’s a first step and is the strongest indication that R’s are not happy with their party.

    PEACE


  30. stateofthedivision says:

    Socialism has never worked? Socialize the losses, privatize the profits seems to be doing just fine. It started under George W./Hank Paulson and is gaining steam.

    The question is how long the losses will go on?


  31. Bobwurst says:

    I thought it was unpatriotic to criticize the president during wartime. At least that’s what these CPackers said for the last eight years.


  32. stateofthedivision says:

    If Obama’s policies fail, will we all be speaking Islamism?


  33. unbelievable says:

    The Architect Says: Socialism has never worked.

    So, you don’t support the troops then? The US military is socialized. Deal with it…


  34. dbadass says:

    Socialism has never worked

    Are you kidding? It is what keeps the species alive


  35. dbschell says:

    Santorum has earned a free ticket on the ship soon leaving for Retard Planet.


  36. HighPlainsJoker says:

    @27 the architect And we also know now that capitalism does not work. What are you a communist? What’s else is left?

    Actually, I live in Europe for the nonce, and I think socialism does work. Its a matter of degrees.


  37. a0d7fzz says:

    Add that foamy mixture of semen and fecal matter to the list of traitors!


  38. ralph the wonder llama says:

    The Architect Says:
    Wulf Says:

    These fringe lefties have short term memory when it comes to things like hoping for failure in Iraq. That was ok, though.

    I don’t know anyone who “hoped for failure” in Iraq. That is stupid.

    You hope for the failure of an opponent in a zero sum game — whatever they fail to achieve falls to you.

    That’s not the case here. Electorally speaking, yes. But we’re talking about policies failing, not electoral campaigns. Our nation faces an economic crisis, thought by most experts to be unprecedented in the last sixty years. Obama is the man whose policies will be employed to try to stem and even reverse the damage. If he fails, WE ALL FAIL AS A NATION.

    That is what Republicans are publicly hoping for and trying to achieve. The failure of the nation. Way to go, guys.


  39. unbelievable says:

    The Architect Says: Really? So, 47-67% of the people oppose Obamas policies?

    No. Just you and your ignorant redneck friends.


  40. trooper says:

    who let the mouth breathing asshat with no authority in? oh yeah. the other asshats with no authority.


  41. Clumberfeet says:

    At least he is honest about his willingness to push the whole country under the bus for political gain.


  42. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    Wulf Says:

    These fringe lefties have short term memory when it comes to things like hoping for failure in Iraq. That was ok, though.

    Liar. us fringe lefties wanted our troops out of Iraq because we didn’t want them to die for your fringe fascist lies. And it’s instructive that your link to the halfwit hayseed song on YouTube has as its related videos naked brittany spears clips….wanker.


  43. ralph the wonder llama says:

    The Architect Says:
    60-80% of people want business or the government to cover more health care.

    Really? So, 47-67% of the people oppose Obamas policies?

    Math’s not one of your stronger subjects, is it?


  44. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    60-80% of people want business or the government to cover more health care.

    Really? So, 47-67% of the people oppose Obamas policies?

    First of all, for an architect, you’re not so with numbers. it would be 40 to 20%…idiot. But in responding to your piyash Jindal like point, the last president to have 667% of the people oppose his policies was, uhhhh bush?


  45. ralph the wonder llama says:

    The Architect Says:
    Socialism has never worked.

    This statement has the same “ring of truth” as Michael Steele’s pronouncement that
    “not in the history of mankind has government ever created a job”.


  46. TheAntichrist says:

    Being a republican must be a sorry existence these days.

    Watching the CPAC conference is like watching a display at Madame Toussards House of Wax.
    Old white men pontificating about socialism. That worked so well for them during the campaign against Obama.

    Perhaps that failed strategy might work now.

    What’s that satirical definition of insanity again?

    It’s equally sad that the most articulate expostulator of the republican philosophy is a sweet faced 13-year old boy.

    I, for one, am glad that we finally have an unabashedly progressive voice in the White House.

    Instead of redistributing wealth upwards, it’s being spread downwards.

    Thirty years of economic inequality is coming to an end.

    Tear down this MYTH————>Ronald Reagan


  47. ConcernedParent says:

    Oh how its wonderful that the gop has so embraced limbaugh. The hater of americans near and far, a traitor to his own country that he wishes to see fall to its knees. The same traitor who screamed not supporting the war in Iraq as un-american and hateful toward the troops. So what if americans are suffering, its their own fault, right? This once great nation is being dragged down by the very people who claim to be its’ true representatives. We should all burn a flag in limbaughs’ honor, take to the streets and show your support!!! The name Benedict Arnold does ring a bell, but what the hell, viva la limbaugh!!!! Let hate rule america once again, let the our country fall to the waste-side, after all we have no shame nor dignity. And all while we make a few million to pad our wallets as we trample upon the backs of our own.


  48. ralph the wonder llama says:

    The Architect Says:
    If he fails, WE ALL FAIL AS A NATION.

    Nobody said this during the heighth of the war. How come? Oh, Bush is an (R). My bad.

    “Nobody said this”?

    So if I could find a single person who said this, your tissue-paper argument falls to pieces, right?

    You really think overheated hyperbole is the way to go?

    Ah, well, I guess if you’ve got nothing else…


  49. kasinca says:

    I was always against the invasion of Iraq. I am a Vietnam Veteran and I have never wished the military would fail. Being against a careless, unnecessary, immoral invasion is not wishing it would fail, it is facing realiity. Wishing the new predident failure after the policies of the CPAC retards over the past twelve years of trying them, is stupidity. When you dig yourself into a hole, stop digging. The conservative ways did not work. They failed. We elected someone who promised to do something different. Live with it, retards.


  50. unbelievable says:

    The Architect Says: Nobody said this during the heighth of the war. How come? Oh, Bush is an (R). My bad.

    Failure in Iraq would not have destroyed the US. Not the same thing. And none of us wanted failure – we wanted NO WAR.

    By the way, the word is height.


  51. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    TheAntichrist

    Why can’t you make your own money?

    Why can’t you pay your own bills?


  52. ralph the wonder llama says:

    The Architect Says:
    If he fails, WE ALL FAIL AS A NATION.

    Nobody said this during the heighth of the war. How come? Oh, Bush is an (R). My bad.

    But let’s move beyond whether anybody held this view at the height of the Iraq war.

    Do you dispute its central truth?


  53. Bobwurst says:

    Hey architect, don’t run away yet. tell us about that skank in your you tube song. Are you the doofus on guitar? Or is the singer your mom and the guitar is this week’s “uncle”?


  54. texaslady says:

    To those of us who watched bush take a surplus in Texas, create more pollution and use the incompetent buddy system we were shocked he/Supreme Court put him in the highest office. But we hoped for the best only to see him flush America down the toilet.
    But the outright meanness, ugly rhetoric coming from the right’s mouth while President Obama is trying to get America back on track is just appalling.
    Either shut up and get out of the way or start helping !!!


  55. dbadass says:

    If he fails, WE ALL FAIL AS A NATION.

    That idiot Bozell that makes a living pissing and moaning about what’s on tv, claimed the nation had failed a long time ago. I am not too worried…


  56. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    No progressives said this during the heighth of the war. How come? Oh, Bush is an (R). My bad.

    That’s right, it’s your bad for supporting your (R) even though he lied us into that war and got real patriots killed.


  57. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    SANTORUM: Because, well, we, I believe his policies will fail, I don’t know, but I hope they fail, I don’t know. But I believe they will fail.

    Barfly was on to a good point. A few days ago, conservatives were positive our country was headed into the crapper because of Obama’s economic policies. Now, they “don’t know”? Why don’t they know? I thought everything they were saying about the results of Obama’s plans were bad things, and now, what, they think it’s possible it just might work? It might work, but they hope it doesn’t? Well, if it might work, then what possible reason could they have to hope it doesn’t work?

    TP, please have your people press them more closely on this issue. WHY do they hope Obama fails? (Or that his policies fail?) Have them spell it out, not simply infer it would be good for them. Make them come out and say exactly why they hope Obama’s policies fail. You’ve got cameras there filming them. And they’ve demonstrated in the past they have no idea what a camera does. (They must not know; they keep denying they said things that are on videotape, so they must know what a camera does.)


  58. kasinca says:

    There is a reason the wingers are not in the majority….they failed when given a chance. Now we have to listen to their whining and lies.


  59. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    Bobwurst Says:

    The Architect Says:
    TheAntichrist

    Why can’t you make your own money?

    Why can’t you pay your own bills?
    ———

    I’m not begging for a handout like most of you folks are. I’m just fine.

    The why aren’t you paying for your war?


  60. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    The why aren’t you paying for your war?

    It’s our war.

    You didn’t answer the question. Why won’t you pay for our war?


  61. texaslady says:

    When people demand facts to send over 4000 men and women to war in a country THAT HAD NOT ATTACKED US. Yes, I guess we who demanded a reason other than lies, are really mean.

    Architect – you along with us will be paying for the wounded from bush’s lies for a long, long time. Think about that when you are hoping for failure for our country.

    And so what do you call bailing out the airlines and the Carylyle Group when bush did it back in May of 2008 ? Are you aware of who has major shares in the Carlyle Group ?


  62. unbelievable says:

    The Architect Says: This is America….

    I bet you’re one of those 11% of Americans who couldn’t pick the US off an unmarked map.


  63. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    Memo to ricky sanscrotum:
    you also “thought” the repukie revolution was going to last for 50 years and you were going to be it’s leadership. I also remember you prostituting your kid the night you lost, crying and whining how it wasn’t fair. so, we should like to you why?


  64. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    Why won’t you pay for our war?

    Time for your nap.

    In other words, you got nuthin. figures.


  65. Wulf says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:
    You hope for the failure of an opponent in a zero sum game — whatever they fail to achieve falls to you.

    But it’s not just that. An opponent’s success in one arena is usually interpreted as overall capability, leadership, intelligence, etc. It’s a matter of large governing philosophies.

    The GOP is stuck now with the fact that they have to blame the last 8 years on either a) bad governing philosophy, or b) poor adherence to it. Are they wrong, or were they hypocrites? If Obama does well, GOP is seen as inherently wrong and can’t recover as easily. But if he does poorly, Conservativism itself can be vindicated while most Bush and some other individual GOP politicians can take the blame.

    Which should Santorum be hoping for?


  66. unbelievable says:

    The Architect Says: I’m not begging for a handout like most of you folks are. I’m just fine.

    You folks are always whining about paying taxes and begging for tax cuts – that’s a hand out. It’s unAmerican not to pay your taxes – it’s how we pay our socialized troops, after all…


  67. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    It appears The Architect (is he trying to make us think he’s Karl Rove?) is long on mindless comments, short on defending them intelligently.

    No progressives said this during the heighth of the war. How come? Oh, Bush is an (R). My bad.

    What point is this nonsense supposed to be making?


  68. kasinca says:

    The Architect Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    The why aren’t you paying for your war?

    It’s our war.

    ===========================================================

    And that is why we were against going in. Why pay for something that is unnecessary? Iraq was not our problem. The (R)s are so ignorant when it comes to this. The sad thing is that the vast majority of the chickenhawks have never served themselves including the drunken AWOL W and his five deferment VP. We are paying for that war for so long and it was completely unnecessary.


  69. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I made the point that if Obama fails, we all fail as a nation.

    The Architect (like George Costanza’s an architect, no doubt — must be our old pal Tracy__5) offered the rejoinder that “nobody said this at the height of the Iraq war”.

    One might presume from this that The Architect recognizes the truth of collective impact and thus, if a national effort fails, the nation as a whole fails.

    Thus, one might further presume that The Architect recognizes the anti-Americanism of wishing for the failure of the President’s policies in a crisis.

    Welcome to the Good side, Tracist!


  70. EnnuiDivine says:

    Socialism may not work, but social democracy works fine. Just look at:

    Canada
    United Kingdom
    Ireland
    France
    Luxembourg
    Lichtenstein
    Germany
    Netherlands
    Belgium
    Spain
    Portugal
    Norway
    Sweden
    Finland
    Italy
    Austria
    Switzerland

    …and so on.

    All have private enterprise, mixed with nationalization of certain utilities and SINGLE-PAYER HEALTHCARE. Those countries aren’t tearing themselves apart with nonsense tirades about “class warfare” and “socialism”…


  71. Bobwurst says:

    unbelievable Says:
    The Architect Says: This is America….

    I bet you’re one of those 11% of Americans who couldn’t pick the US off an unmarked map.

    It’s best not to use numbers with this one. see post 33 for details.


  72. ralph the wonder llama says:

    The Architect Says:
    Why won’t you pay for our war?

    Time for your nap.

    Wow. As an experienced troll-whacker, I’ve seen some lame performances by trolls over the years, but this has to be in the top five lamest troll responses of all time.


  73. dbadass says:

    The Architect Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Why won’t you pay for our war?


    Which one? Will you help me pay for mine on shallow calories and poor national cuisine?


  74. ralph the wonder llama says:

    The Architect Says:
    Thus, one might further presume that The Architect recognizes the anti-Americanism of wishing for the failure of the President’s policies in a crisis.

    Which bob obviously doesn’t!

    Congrats, Tracist, for finally reaching a progressive position on something.


  75. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    i am glad our new troll the architect makes “perfect sense” to himself since he’s sure baffling the hell out of me with his inane drivel


  76. dbadass says:

    Pointing out the liberals sudden patriotism makes perfect sense, to me.


    I suppose talking snakes and women being made from ribs while dudes dirt makes sense as well….


  77. texaslady says:

    President Obama and the First Lady each earned their own way and believe in encouraging those standards. I have not heard about anyone getting a free handout. If you want to discuss EIC look to who signed the original Bill, that would be Gerald Ford.
    You don’t like it, write your Congressman.

    America needs good schools, our education standard all the way to college is way behind other countries. We have an infant mortality rate like a third world country.
    So, your republican policies haven’t done much, now have they ? But I totally get, a republican’s mindset, all for me and to heck with my neighbor.


  78. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    The conservatives really do have nothing. They claim they “hope” Obama’s policies fail. Well, if they know what words mean, then they are admitting the possibility that Obama’s policies just might be a rousing success. (But they “hope” they are not.)

    Now, when we try to point out that the conservative policies of the past eight years are what led us into this mess, they quickly shoot back that Bush wasn’t “conservative”. (Then why did they all vote for him?)

    They are convinced, without any evidence, that conservative policies will work better. They “hope” that what they are calling “Socialist” policies don’t work, but they claim that conservative policies have never really been implemented in this country. So how can they be so sure that their policies will work?

    Every time we criticize conservative policies (tax cuts for the rich, and for big corporations), they claim the policies weren’t really conservative. (They even claim Reagan’s policies weren’t, at times, conservative enough.) Yet they still insist that a more conservative economic policy is what we need.

    What the conservatives fail to understand is that every time we moved toward what they want (even if we didn’t get there entirely), the country just kept getting worse and worse economically. The economic inequality in this country kept rising. I don’t have to “hope” conservatism fails; it’s already proven to me that it will fail.


  79. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    i guess they forgot grampy mclame’s slogan of “country first”


  80. unbelievable says:

    EnnuiDivine Says: Those countries aren’t tearing themselves apart with nonsense tirades about “class warfare” and “socialism”…

    They also don’t pitch temper tanrums over gay rights, legalized abortion, or actual sex education for teenagers that works…


  81. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    How can I answer an idiotic question like that, bob
    ?

    Well Archie, (Or should I call you Jughead?) you could start by explaining why you people who so fervently believed that the war you people started in Iraq was so essential to saving democracy, our culture and humanity that you chose to pay for it by throwing away the huge budget surplus given to you by bill clinton and then borrowed the rest from the Chinese (who are communists by the way) and now are complaining about President Obama’s plan for the all of us to pay the bill you people incurred.


  82. Perry logan says:

    Q: Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?

    A: Anyone who listens to the Repubs for five minutes.


  83. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    What point is this nonsense supposed to be making?

    Pointing out the liberals sudden patriotism makes perfect sense, to me.

    We were patriots all along, you were just too stupid to see it.


  84. gitrdone says:

    Mark Levin, that little hatemonger sure doesn’t seem so tough in person.


  85. unbelievable says:

    The troll proves why Obama has education reform as such a high priority…


  86. Bobwurst says:

    Oh archie????

    If you can’t answer my question now that I explained how, maybe you respond to one of my other questions…like who is the skank in the video you link to on YouTube, or why people who watch that video also like to look at videos of britnany spears naked?


  87. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    The Architect Says:
    No progressives said this during the heighth of the war. How come? Oh, Bush is an (R). My bad.

    I said:
    What point is this nonsense supposed to be making?

    The Architect Says:
    Pointing out the liberals sudden patriotism makes perfect sense, to me.

    You’re still not making sense. What exactly are you claiming shows “the liberals sudden patriotism”? And what did any of this have to do with the Iraq War? Please make sense. Otherwise, you’re just being evasive (like your slimy namesake, Karl Rove.)


  88. hanshiro says:

    An earlier poster, (Rich H?) observing the idioti of the bush-suck posts, opined:

    “I wonder what it would be like to just go to a site like TP and post absolutely the stupidest sh¡t I could think of.”

    Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you, “the architect.”

    Socialism has never worked.

    These fringe lefties have short term memory when it comes to things like hoping for failure in Iraq. That was ok, though.

    Really? So, 47-67% of the people oppose Obamas policies?

    Why can’t you make your own money?

    This is America….

    Time for your nap.

    Pointing out the liberals sudden patriotism makes perfect sense, to me.

    The subtotal of his “wisdom” is exactly that, “say the stupidest sh¡t you can think of.” No followup, no defense, no debate, no sources, just move on to the next ignorant talking point. This is what’s known as a time-sucker/energy vampire.

    Anyone who still believes the crap that he’s posting doesn’t get that the public overwhelmingly rejected the republian party’s incompetence and wants them out. “Out, damned snot! Out I say…Yet who would have thought the GOP to have had so much crud in them?”


  89. Castelcomerkid says:

    Living proof that ‘misery loves company’ is Santorum, the total screw-up and failure, whose only success was producing children (God help them and preserve them from getting bitten by the same idiot bug that got their father). He who is the poster child for failure calling for someone else to fail would be funny, except it is so sad.


  90. texaslady says:

    The architect’s comments are so ann coulter, who said the “surplus” Clinton left was just on paper, but the deficit President Obama is doing is real. Just once I would like a real answer on anything from a republican/conservative.


  91. dbadass says:

  92. dbadass says:

    Einstein, you’re not.

    Good one. I almost lol’ed….


  93. Zooey says:

    Y’all hit that dumb-assed troll outta the park!!! Well done!


  94. texaslady says:

    I agree with Spencers mom let the repubs spew their ugly garbage so the public can see who they really are and perhaps wake up. Alexander Pelosi’s documentary was an eye opener and frightening to think some people really think as they do.


  95. Zooey says:

    Oh well, I guess he got replenished with talking points.

    Carry on.


  96. McWars says:

    Eh, troll, if there were no such thing as history, your pivoting talking points may have some footing.

    But this is reality. Not a dime-a-dozen conservabook.

    Look! A new PS3 title, Call of Duty: Chickenhawk Bloodletting

    !!


  97. texaslady says:

    Say architect, did you sign up and serve in the war ? Afganistan or Iraq ? Or are you a young republican who has other priorities. So many who cheer for war are absent when called.


  98. ralph the wonder llama says:

    dbadass, I think he means the War on Christmas.

    Or maybe the War on Traditional Marriage?


  99. texaslady says:

    Remeber President Obama was right on voting against war with Iraq….maybe he should be given some time to see if he is right on the policy for our country.


  100. hanshiro says:

    The ‘architect’ wants reaction. He will never defend a stand, he just wants reaction. He will try to keep a ‘proactive’ position, getting others to always react to his stupidity, never reacting to a cogent counterpoint, never sourcing a substantive point to further dialogue.

    He will not engage, only annoy.

    Like all his republican brethren. Whiny, dumb as sh¡t and screaming for attention.

    I’m gauging his actual age around…13 and using daddy’s talking points. That’s being charitable.


  101. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Is the troll trying to say that Democrats started the War in Iraq?

    The only thing that would keep such a suggestion from being the stupidest thing ever posted here, is the earlier body of work of the same troll.


  102. tombaker says:

    SO VERY CONSERVATIVE…

    …that no one at CPAC will even talk to him, so he’d off in a corner, tapping at his laptop, smirking for himself.

    Happy Saturday Tpeeps.

    We didn’t even have to wish for Ricky Santorum to FAIL – he did it all by his little self.

    If these Righties had any class AT ALL, they’d let nature take its course, and draw conclusions from results.

    Mr. Architect – tell Mr. Vandelay I said “hey”.


  103. hanshiro says:

    Watch the architect amp up and bring the stupid!


  104. dbadass says:

    I suppose in the War on Poverty, the imaginary welfare queens are the terrorist freedom haters…


  105. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Hey, Architect,

    Are you actually going to point to the vote for the Iraq War by Democrats as evidence that they supported illegally invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 just to enact regime change?

    Are you aware that the Bush Administration lied not only to Democrats but to Republicans, too? They called Dick Armey into their office and told him that Saddam had suitcase nukes ready to hand off to al Qaeda. It was a total bullshit lie, but since they wanted that invasion come hell or high water, they felt that lying was justified to get it.

    Tell us, Architect. Do you have <em?any respect for the truth?


  106. McWars says:

    Ending the Christmas party for the rich (circa 2001) is “class warfare” if you get all of your info from the networks.

    You know, stupid troll, if you actually worked for a living or otherwise worked hard at something in your life, you’d be more conducive to the data that wealth really has trickled up from the poor to the rich.


  107. Zooey says:

    hanshiro Says:

    I’m gauging his actual age around…13 and using daddy’s talking points. That’s being charitable.
    February 28th, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    Hey, I’ve had to apologize to the mentally ill and beavers in the last two days. I think you owe an apology to 13 year olds. :-D


  108. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    I think Architect is trying to make next week’s edition of “The Weak in Review” on Rachel Maddow’s show. All his “arguments” are just that – weak.


  109. dbadass says:

    It would be way off topic but I would like to make fun of the Architect’s totally absurd YouTube link. F’ucking hillbillies are always a riot


  110. hanshiro says:

    126. Zooey Says: Hey, I’ve had to apologize to the mentally ill and beavers in the last two days. I think you owe an apology to 13 year olds. :-D

    Oh c’mon…I spotted him 10 years (that was the charitable part…*rimshot*)


  111. McWars says:

    I quote recently passed Lt. Gen. Victor H. Krulak (son Gen. Charles Krulak was 31st CMC), “I never got enthusiasm out of war, and I’m convinced that the true pacifists are the professional soldiers who have actually seen it.”


  112. Zooey says:

    The Architect Says:

    “[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” — From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998
    February 28th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    That means BushCo was supposed to find out FIRST, dingleberry.

    You really want to go this way, huh?


  113. Pennsylvanianne says:

    Of course every member of the GOP hopes Obama fails. It is their only hope of ever regaing the White House and Congress, which they deem more important than helping save our country. Just goes to show the lack of nobility in these jokers — and definitely a lack of ideas and solutions to our major problems. Hate, lie, bash and terrorize. That’s all they know to do. Working together for the good of Americans? They won’t do it.
    The GOP said it was unAmerican to criticize Bush in any way after 9/11, but says it’s OK to bash Obama now. Hypocrites. Other Pennsylvanians finally joined with me in recognizing Santorum for what he is and voted him out of office.


  114. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    …to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.

    A threat that existed only in the Bush Administration’s mind.

    You do understand, don’t you, that this was all a lie? That Saddam did not have WMD? That the sanctions were working (even Sec Powell said this)? You do understand all that, don’t you?

    Do you believe that the United States should have a foreign policy based on preventive war?


  115. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I’m going to stay out of any buildings designed by this “architect”.

    If they’re as well-designed as his arguments, they won’t survive a decent rainstorm.


  116. Bobwurst says:

    Archie, you really are a jughead aren’t you. Congress voted based on falsified intel from your deserter in chief. But so what. You still won’t explain why you won’t pay for the bill for this war. If it was justified, then there’s even more of a reason why we should pay for it. Maybe you missed that part because you were cruising the rest rooms at CPAC looking for larry craig.


  117. Bob says:

    The sore winners quickly became the sore losers and now the former Senator is hoping things get worse. Of course now the false accusation becomes claiming everyone against the policies of the past eight years was hoping for failure when the reality was hoping to be wrong but constantly being proven right.

    I hoped to be wrong eight years ago thinking we’re headed for disaster, but I had no idea of such colossal failure on so many issues.

    Sadly, the constituents that support these traitors will find vindication no matter what degree of success is acheived. They can’t see that their policies are what got us in this mess, so why would facts and reality change their minds in the future?


  118. shoeless says:

    Archie seems to be under the impression that the Clinton administration invaded Iraq. What ’s matter Archie, aren’t you proud of Bush’s war anymore.


  119. Bobwurst says:

    Hey folks, I’ve got bette things to do, so I’m going to leave archie in your more than capable hands. Please make it cry.


  120. hanshiro says:

    127. Wayne A. Schneider Says: I think Architect is trying to make next week’s edition of “The Weak in Review” on Rachel Maddow’s show. All his “arguments” are just that – weak.

    It’s worse than that. Republicans have a routine, consistent pattern of trotting out debunked crap every few months to re-introduce it to those who don’t know they’re full of crap.

    It’s a cheesy ploy and one that probably contributed to their being unceremoniously booted from office. It’s an old tactic to get people to react and see if they remember why the crap was debunked.

    Next up: Clinton’s fault for 9-11, or something similar.


  121. McWars says:

    Do you really want to play that deck of cards, troll, that we have walked in lockstep with the dems who voted for this disaster?

    You do know that once the commander-in-chief is handed the authority to proceed with war, he/she has the authority to STOP the war?

    After the massive blood-shedding, no timetable, no coherent strategy, Bush refused to order the troops home.


  122. shoeless says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    How long before the first troll is scheduled to interpret for us what they really meant?

    Well, we have no idea to whom Santorum was referring.

    SANTORUM: If…absolutely we hope that his policies fail.

    See, Ricky used a pronoun. He could have been talking about anybody’s policies. There is just no way to know.


  123. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Architect,

    None of the people you are quoting had first hand evidence that Saddam had any WMD, or any active WMD programs. Former generals whop went on TV were being told by the Pentagon what to say. (Fact.) Most Members of Congress (from either party and in both Houses) did not read the full, classified report on pre-war intel. Most based their public comments (the ones you are quoting) on falsified reports that exaggerated the danger for Iraq. Intel that suggested Saddam “might” be trying to do certain things was changed to Saddam “is” doing certain things. The intel they released was a bunch of lies and distortions, so any public comments (or votes for war) ased on those lies and distortions cannot be used as a sound argument that the invasion was justified.

    But you refuse to believe that, so what’s the point in anyone listening to you?

    Like I said, “weak”.


  124. tombaker says:

    Hook us up with some clips from “The Path to 9/11″, Mr. Architect??


  125. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    But so what.

    bob waives white flag……:)

    I was going to go but this is too funny to pass on. First of all, when someone “waives” something, they pass, or forego it. So yes, I am “waiving the white flag” in that I am indeed forgoing the ‘waving” of said flag.


  126. tombaker says:

    Do you feel powerful when you pretend-win arguments on blogs, Mr. Architect?

    Really?


  127. Zooey says:

    I can’t decide if it’s cute or just sad that the troll thinks it’s taunting us.

    :-D


  128. tombaker says:

    Kind of Exley-ish m.o., imho.


  129. Bobwurst says:

    Archie, perhaps you could point to some place on the thread where you actually, rebutted a point. (And to save you some time, rebutting doesn’t mean replacing a butt).


  130. shoeless says:

    Bill Cohen is a Republican. What do you expect from him? He was even more fooled by Bush’s lies than most. Again, Archie where did you get the idea that the Clinton administration invaded Iraq? I remember 1998 very well, and I’m pretty sure there was no invasion.


  131. tombaker says:

    rhf – you think it’s muckdog?


  132. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Tracist the “architect” thinks he handed someone’s ass to him?

    That’s almost as funny as his claim that Democrats started the Iraq War.

    But at least he recognizes that Republicans who hope for Obama’s failure are traitors to their country.

    If he takes away that little bit of progressive wisdom today, we can let him have his other delusions.


  133. dbadass says:

    Seems I am on the architect’s ignore list…
    Bummer…


  134. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Architect,

    You haven’t handed anybody’s ass to them. You haven’t intelligently proven a single thing you’ve said. All you’ve proven is that Members of Congress were sufficiently duped by Bush to support his illegal invasion of Iraq. And even when they did give him the authority, he was supposed to do certain things before the invasion which he refused to do.

    The War in Iraq was illegal. Period. It was also completely unjustified. Period.


  135. tombaker says:

    selectively clipping quotes proves what?

    nice parlor trick, if you run with a slow enough crowd, i suppose.


  136. Bobwurst says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:
    Tracist the “architect” thinks he handed someone’s ass to him?

    Ralph, it’s a republican, it believes in the magic of it’s own words: if it says it, it must be true…


  137. barfly says:

    The Architect Says:

    “I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons…I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out.” — Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

    Kapow! :)

    So absence of evidence = evidence?

    That one missed, Archie.


  138. Zooey says:

    The Architect Says:

    Commence attacking the messenger. What else can you do? :)
    February 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pm

    Awwwww, the troll’s feeling picked on. Poor thing.


  139. tombaker says:

    be smugly content with the fact that our party is in charge.

    and yours is consigned to the brushy outskirts of town.


  140. ralph the wonder llama says:

    So… muckdog was Tracist?


  141. dbadass says:

    Commence attacking the messenger. What else can you do? :)


    Well I can’t rotate my right foot in a clockwise direction while writing an imaginery 6 in the air but still I can mess with your head if I want to…


  142. shoeless says:

    So now it’s John Kerry and Ted Kennedy who invaded Iraq. I thought it was the Clinton administration. Archie, you’ve got to stop shifting responsibility for the invasion of Iraq between all of these Democrats. You are getting everyone confused.


  143. barfly says:

    Trifecta!

    On evidence provided to them by Bush. Strike two…


  144. tombaker says:

    “messenger” is a bit of a stretch, for someone delivering years-old recycled news.


  145. Bobwurst says:

    Archie still won’t explain why he’s a deadbeat who won’t pay his bills, regardless of whether the war was justified or not, or who supported the war or not, we’re paying for bush’s choices now and archie isn’t man enough to man up.
    If he’s not going argue rationally the least he could do is provide us with more malaprops.


  146. McWars says:

    Kapow! :)

    That would be the thumping sound of your remaining brain cell, “HELP! Let me out of here!”


  147. had enough says:

    Wishing President Obama to fail is a wish for the failure of America.

    How obvious is the hatred for America going to get from these righty whack jobs?

    They just continue to give the dems more campaign material for election ‘10 and ‘12 with this wish for failure.


  148. barfly says:

    Not to many people refer to Rove as the Architect, now that his party has been marginalized. His last prediction failed horribly – didn’t he plan on voters rejecting permanent war?


  149. spencers mom says:

    Archie’s argument fails to reflect the lies upon which the Democrat’s lucid and thoughtful responses were based.

    Again, I hope there is a full investigation into awarding the contract for the 28 Marine One helicopters from BushCo to an Italian firm. Payback for the forged Niger/yellowcake documents?

    PEACE


  150. labman57 says:

    So much for “Country First”.


  151. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    The Architect Says:

    Commence attacking the messenger. What else can you do? :)

    You’ve been completely ignoring those of us who attacked your message. You just keep trotting out old quotes that only prove Bush successfully lied to Congress. You’ve proven nothing.


  152. Briseadh na Faire says:

    The Republican “base” is the evangelical Christian voter – those who vote for any candidate as long as the person is anti-abortion and anti-gay.

    How is it that so many who profess to be Christian are so filled with hate?


  153. gummitch says:

    Not to avoid wasting time on a troll, or anything, but:

    Reading Charles Krauthammer is generally a great purgative. Like a blind squirrel, he finally managed to find a nut yesterday and wrote a column that didn’t require him to froth and bay at the moon.

    Obama made clear Tuesday night that he intends to be equally transformative. His three goals: universal health care, universal education, and a new green energy economy highly funded and regulated by government.
    [. . . .]

    But just picking winners and losers is hardly sufficient for a president who sees himself as world-historical. Hence the carbon cap-and-trade system he proposed Tuesday night that will massively restructure American industry and create a highly regulated energy sector.

    These revolutions in health care, education and energy are not just abstract hopes. They have already taken life in Obama’s $787 billion stimulus package, a huge expansion of social spending constituting a down payment on Obama’s plan for remaking the American social contract.

    Obama sees the current economic crisis as an opportunity. He has said so openly. And now we know what opportunity he wants to seize. Just as the Depression created the political and psychological conditions for Franklin Roosevelt’s transformation of America from laissez-faireism to the beginnings of the welfare state, the current crisis gives Obama the political space to move the still (relatively) modest American welfare state toward European-style social democracy.

    Of course, Krauthammer isn’t happy about any of this, but I think he presents a remarkably clear-headed view of President Obama’s agenda. And I like it.


  154. shoeless says:

    labman57 Says:

    So much for “Country First”.

    Republicans define “country” as GOP.


  155. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Don’t you have to have quotes from three different people in order for it to be a “trifecta”?


  156. flex says:

    these are treasonous and dangerous right wing extremists. we should take be aware \


  157. dzinn1264 says:

    So, the Sheeples do have a scorched earth policy when it comes to our country.


  158. McWars says:

    So if I take a dump in my neighbor’s yard, run back inside and watch him complain and gesture from my window, he must be attacking the messenger!


  159. Bobwurst says:

    Wayne A. Schneider Says:
    The Architect Says:

    Commence attacking the messenger. What else can you do? :)

    You’ve been completely ignoring those of us who attacked your message. You just keep trotting out old quotes that only prove Bush successfully lied to Congress. You’ve proven nothing.

    Thanks for saying this so well Wayne. And when we all grow bored with Archie he will claim victory. Kind of like how the house republicans claimed victory when they voted in such a partisan fashion against the stimulus bill.


  160. angels81 says:

    I’ve been reading all the posts and have a question for the troll. Archie, with all your BS about who said what when, I ask you… Were are the WMD? What happened? Did they all just disappear into thin air? It was bush and his necon thugs who said they were there what happened? Why was your fearless leader so full of shit? I’ll wait for your answer.


  161. Bobwurst says:

    Wayne A. Schneider Says:
    Don’t you have to have quotes from three different people in order for it to be a “trifecta”?

    This one doesn’t have a solid grasp on logic, or language, or math for that matter. In his favor however, he can spell better than most of his ilk…


  162. shoeless says:

    This is a perfect example of how these right-wingers operate. Archie is blaming the Iraq War on the Democrats who were lied to, while absolving the liars in the Bush administration.

    Now, they are blaming the homeowners who were taken advantage of by predatory lenders, and whose jobs were shipped overseas by greedy CEOs, while granting a pass to the corrupt a-holes who pocketed trillions of dollars from their ponzi schemes.


  163. alpuz3 says:

    Oh, Architect… just post the link to the page you’re pulling these posts from.


  164. tokin librul says:

    For eight, long, bloody, torture-wracked, impoverished years, I wished with every fivber of my being that The Chimp would fail, could be blocked, frustrated, obstructed in his plans for the Country.

    Literally every time I aw him speak, I waited in hopes that a dime-sized hole would appear in his forehead, just over the left eye.

    I wanted (and still want) the GOPuke caucus to be struck with mortal paralysis.

    Does that make ME a traitor?


  165. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    And when we all grow bored with Archie he will claim victory.

    Which would prove, Bobwurst, that trying to intelligently persuade us that he was right and we were wrong was never his “goal”. He’s just trying to drive us away. Sadly, he will succeed, because after a while, it just gets boring constantly proving him wrong. That’s his measure of “victory” – not in being right, but in being wrong enough to make people get sick of arguing with him. It’s a form of mental illness, and I hope he gets the help he so desperately needs soon.


  166. upside99 says:

    The good news out of all this is that with the Rusher in charge of the Repug party, dittoheads like Archie will be the minority party for decades to come.

    Heh Heh


  167. Bobwurst says:

    shoeless Says:
    This is a perfect example of how these right-wingers operate. Archie is blaming the Iraq War on the Democrats who were lied to, while absolving the liars in the Bush administration.

    It also claims that it’s patriotic to want obama to fail because liberals were unpatriotic when they wanted bush’s war to fail.


  168. Bobwurst says:

    Tokin, if you wanted to see bush get shot in the head then yes, you are a traitor.


  169. Zooey says:

    Hey, Archie!

    Where is Osama bin Laden?


  170. shoeless says:

    Bobwurst Says:

    It also claims that it’s patriotic to want obama to fail because liberals were unpatriotic when they wanted bush’s war to fail.

    What? It wasn’t Bush’s war! Bush had nothing to do with the invasion of Iraq. I heard it was Ted Kennedy and John Kerry who did the Shock and Awe thing.


  171. labman57 says:

    The GOP has no idea what it stands for, and their leadership is totally devoid of fresh ideas to present to the American public. So instead they use the “shotgun” approach to politics–randomly attack Democrats and their policies, juvenilely call Obama names (”Socialist!!!”) in a feeble attempt to stir fear and hatred among the masses, desperately hoping to hit something, anything.

    So far, they’ve mostly just hit air.


  172. angels81 says:

    Zooey, He’s down on the ranch with his buddy George.


  173. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    alpuz3,

    Thanks for providing the link that “Architect” was too cowardly to provide. The author’s argument proves nothing. If all those people quoted had done their own independent investigations and came to the conclusions they publicly stated, then there might be validity to the argument that “everyone thought Saddam had WMD”. But they didn’t, because they couldn’t. They relied on “evidence” provided by the Bush Administration, and that “evidence” was not objective. It was constructed for the purpose of duping people into believing that invading Iraq was necessary (even though it wasn’t.)


  174. Bobwurst says:

    So how do we balance trying to engage someone in a thoughtful way with not feeding the trolls? Seriously. I started out trying to have an adult conversation, and kept trying. But at some point I turned to whack a troll for some comic relief (which says something about my own maturity level..).


  175. tokin librul says:

    upside99 Says:
    The good news out of all this is that with the Rusher in charge of the Repug party, dittoheads like Archie will be the minority party for decades to come.
    Heh Heh
    February 28th, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    Mebbe, mebbe not.

    It the economic conditions get significantly worse–and they not only can, but predictably will–the Pukes will come to power again blaming Obama & the Dims, Satan, Homos, Hippies, Atheists, and Al Gore for all of it…

    and the sheeple–the ones enraptured by American Idol and MMA–will fearfully rise to follow the “man on the horse”, especially if wrapped in the flag and waving a crucifix.


  176. P.D. says:

    Good ole Ricky! Can you beleive that moron was my senator? Isn’t there a Terri Shivo or a some cutural misgiving that Rick can fixate on? By the way, who gives a crap what a washed up politician thinks, Santorum, DeLay, Gingrigh? Is this all the Repugs have to offer? Jeez!


  177. angels81 says:

    All the people on the trolls list, all thought that the inspectors should be allowed to finish their job before numb nuts took any action, which didn’t happen.


  178. Bobwurst says:

    Getting back to Santuroum, did he have the pickled fetus in a jar with him?


  179. McWars says:

    It’s “pro-America” if you don’t speak out against tinkering in another country’s affairs uninvited.

    But it’s in no way “anti-America” if you oppose the necessary domestic spending (and increases) to keep the people inside America educated, healthy, civilized, and politically and culturally aware. Apply any buzz word, “income redistribution”, “socialism”, “stealing from our kids”.

    Pardon me, but I thought that domestic spending had in it list of priorities investment in our kids.

    The GOP is the largest definition of catch-22 I will ever witness in my lifetime. Their policies have squeezed millions like a turnip to benefit the benefited few.


  180. tombaker says:

    This year’s CPAC theme?

    “Heaven’s Gate”


  181. angels81 says:

    I see Archie ran out of talking points that Rush provided, so he had to go away and leave us.


  182. shoeless says:

    No, I’m sure that bin Laden is still a big proponent of the Iraq War. Archie doesn’t like the war any longer, as he is trying to find someone to blame for it.


  183. Bobwurst says:

    Excellent point rhf. All these republicans are on the same side as bin laden now. And we’re the traitors…


  184. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    architard is still rambling on? geez i thought he would have given it a rest by now.


  185. McWars says:

    I think dbadass should add one more topical question to his research — “How many military-themed video games have you played?”


  186. Petey Wheatstraw says:

    These people are counting on “The Master Plan” put forth by He Who Must Not Be Named (for fear of polluting the thread). Never forget this: these people will kill for their beliefs – logic and honesty be damned.


  187. angels81 says:

    So the repugs at CPAC have trotted out all the up and coming leaders of the Party of NO. Bachman, Rush, Jindal, Steele, Ann(I’m a man) Coulter, Kantor, Malkin and Joe the plumber. Now I ask you, would you buy a used car from any of these clowns?


  188. iamwhoiam says:

    The more of these clowns, the better. People need to be reminded constantly who are the bad guys here.


  189. tombaker says:

    Tonight, in the climactic moment, Rush will bid them don their black tracksuits and adidas tennies, swig the juice of freedom, and lie down to await the Mothership, piloted by St. Ronald, to wisk them away to planet Dystopia, where they will amass and plot their revenge against the wicked, wayward Earthmen (Libtard Moonbats).


  190. dbadass says:

    231
    McWars has an excellent idea


  191. angels81 says:

    Don’t ban the trolls. I would hate to see this site become like the Puma sites were everyone has the hive mind. From what I’ve seen in my short time here, the trolls are put in their place.


  192. angels81 says:

    Since watching CPAC on and off the last few days, I think they should take their show on the road and hit all the comedy clubs. This has been better then SNL.


  193. McWars says:

    tombaker Says:
    Tonight, in the climactic moment, Rush will bid them don their black tracksuits and adidas tennies, swig the juice of freedom, and lie down to await the Mothership, piloted by St. Ronald, to wisk them away to planet Dystopia, where they will amass and plot their revenge against the wicked, wayward Earthmen (Libtard Moonbats).

    Hey tom!

    “For Whom The Bell Tolls” will be heard in the background as the minions bow on the knees relentlessly and beg to cast their ballot twice for their new leader.

    “You da double whopper man” — Bachmann


  194. RUCerious says:

    The repuglycans want a full blown depression.

    Guess what, idiots? That will be placed squarely on the tiny shoulder of your fuhrer if it does happen, so why don’t you get behind the repair/restore/replenishment of America instead of being shitfaced whiners.


  195. hanshiro says:

    Endgame: From PNAC September 2000

    Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.

    Indeed, the United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of SaddamHussein.

    This bush wet-dream war had been percolating for some time.

    Kinda makes them previous quotes moot…


  196. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    From now on whenever a Republican states an opposition to one of President Obama’s plans or policies, the FIRST question which should be put to that Republican is: “Are you opposing the President to make him fail?”

    Bobwurst Says:

    So how do we balance trying to engage someone in a thoughtful way with not feeding the trolls?

    I like (but often fail to follow) a “three strikes and you’re out” guideline: a troll gets two comments that are nonsense, baiting, attention seeking and after the third I switch from debate to whack-a-troll and/or talking about rather than to the troll. I do not want trolls banned however if they are giving us the opportunity to put forth our arguments.


  197. tombaker says:

    I can dialogue with y’all on topics just fine, even if I have to kick an anklebiter occasionally to do it. Kinda spices thing up, keeps the snarkfin sharp.

    Face it – with their limited reading and comprehension skills, it’s easy to stay 3-4 posts ahead of them, and still pay attention to the contributions of substance that are made.

    (parentheses work well, too – it’s a signal that the comment is directed at the goodly posters and not the troll (and I think it means they can’t hear me, too)) aggravates them particularly, to know a back has been turned to them.


  198. angels81 says:

    Give me a break will ya. Have you tried posting an opposing view point on any Puma site? I find most of them no different then rightwing sites, which was my point. It seems like everyone had good fun with Archie, seeing as half this thread was responding to him, so I don’t get your point.


  199. barfly says:

    From James Wolcott:

    Chewing the Kud

    O, pray, let this be so.

    At Contentions, a little birdie poops into Jennifer Rubin’s ear:

    Here at CPAC a well placed source with knowledge of the Republican Senate Committee plans tells me that Larry Kudlow is “considering” a Senate run against embattled Connecticut Senator Chris Dodd.

    Yes, the same Larry Kudlow who natters about “mustard seeds” nightly on CNBC and was the chief evangelist for the Goldilocks economy (a.k.a., “the greatest story never told”), and who, in 2007, following the Capitol Hill testimony of then-rookie Fed chairman Ben Bernanke, hyperventilated:

    Senate Democrats like Christopher Dodd and Chuck Schumer kept harping about income inequality and wage stagnation, trying to change the subject from the excellent economic news and to pave the way for a tax hike on the top, most successful American earners. But wages are booming. And the rest of the inequality story is so much statistical illusion and faux arithmetic. (Just ask Washington economics scholar Alan Reynolds).

    [snip]

    America’s bull market economy stands at the epicenter of the newly-capitalist world market economy. Therefore, it is no surprise that America’s stock rise is being emulated around the world. This is called economic leadership.

    The reality is that non-inflationary growth and rising living standards are occurring all around the globe. For this, thank the spread of American-style, free-market capitalism. Some call it cowboy capitalism, but I prefer to think of it as prosperity capitalism.

    Record wealth is now being created among a hundred million plus investors in the U.S., including union and public employee pension fund holders who are 60 percent invested in the Bernanke bull market. This, even though they rail against stock market wealth and business in general, and still don’t get it that their retirement wealth bread is being buttered by the fabulous expansion of the portfolio value of the ownership society.

    Stocks are the best barometer of future business and economic health. They are signaling that the wealth of the nation currently and prospectively looks excellent.

    [snip]

    The recessionists are wrong. The bears are wrong. The pessimists are wrong. The doom and gloom crowd is wrong.

    We are witnessing the Bush/Bernanke boom. It is still the greatest story never told.

    Let’s start a “draft Larry” campaign. If the RNC was actually stupid enough to support him financially, his loss would drain RNC coffers, and perhaps cause another repub candidate to fail, from lack of aid.


  200. schwartzie says:

    Is there any wonder why Pennsylvanians decided to cut Rick Santorum loose. Conservatism really does screw up one’s head.


  201. had enough says:

    This is good.

    President Obama’s weekly address:

    2/28/09: Your Weekly Address


  202. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    i wonder if they’ll be giving the jeanne kirkpatrick freedom award to a gay porn star/hustler again at cpac this year?
    ahhh yes, thanks for the years of laughs at your expense attendees of cpac


  203. Patty says:

    Seems like the first word-of-response to blogging trolls or real-live-reactionaries who wish the president’s policies fail should be a simple retort:

    “Treason.”

    Nothing more. Repeat the word enough and others will begin to see the truth of their hatred.


  204. angels81 says:

    Patty, I agree, repugs have always put party first country second. It is more important to them that they gain control of congress then the country falling farther into the abyss.


  205. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    schwartzie Says:

    Is there any wonder why Pennsylvanians decided to cut Rick Santorum loose. Conservatism really does screw up one’s head.

    Personally, I think it’s the other way around. I think being screwed up in the head causes one to become a Conservative.


  206. ralph the wonder llama says:

    A little troll post mortem, if you will:

    Interesting evolution of the troll’s argument. He first complained that “Socialism has never worked”.

    When that was demolished, he moved on to try to attack the notion that Republicans were unpatriotic for hoping for failure. He did this in a fateful way: by claiming that progressives all wished for the Iraq war to fail.

    This wasn’t very effective, in that it indicted his own side and essentially acknowledged that Republicans who hoped for Obama’s failure were, in fact, hoping for the failure of us all. But he was committed to it.

    Nevertheless, his next move was rather odd. Cleverly challenged on Republican willingness to wage war yet unwillingness to raise taxes to pay for it, our friend began producing cut-and-paste comments from prominent Democrats seeming to support taking action against Saddam.

    The troll failed to note that these statements completely undercut his earlier assertion that the Left wanted the Iraq war to fail.

    So let’s review:

    the troll went on the attack but soon inadvertently admitted that a) Republicans are traitors and b) liberals did not “all wish for Bush to fail”, while at the same time making no ground on any front, and posting one of the Top Five lamest troll responses of all time.

    Quite a morning for our friend.

    (This analysis will be published in the April edition of Troll Psychology Journal.)


  207. Patty says:

    Wayne A. Schneider Says:
    ———————
    schwartzie Says:

    Is there any wonder why Pennsylvanians decided to cut Rick Santorum loose. Conservatism really does screw up one’s head.

    Personally, I think it’s the other way around. I think being screwed up in the head causes one to become a Conservative

    Thus, the clear-as-mud circle of life continues.


  208. barfly says:

    Personally, I think it’s the other way around. I think being screwed up in the head causes one to become a Conservative.

    So you’re arguing that it’s a matter of biology, and not a matter of choice?


  209. tombaker says:

    If you can’t debate, conflate – right Mr. Vandelay?


  210. Reaganman says:

    I hope Obama fails as well. I want the America designed by the Founding Fathers. What Obama puts forth for policy will bankrupt the country. I want freedom – not dependency on the US Government. Someday…someday…you will see that your freedoms have been taken away and you will have only yourselves to blame.

    Remember: The government that gives you everything you want…is the government that will take everything you have!


  211. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    ralph the wonder llama, excellent summary and I trust you were wearing an anti-motion sickness patch when you did the analysis (I’m glad I can use that word now!).


  212. darter22 says:

    CPAC. Traitors all. Their greatest fear is that Obama succeeds and further marginalizes the Rethugs more than they already are.


  213. barfly says:

    Hey, Arch…

    Betty’s got the crabs, and she’s been looking for ‘ya…


  214. tombaker says:

    tee hee, Mr. Vandelay – bluster won’t save ya none.


  215. had enough says:

    part of text of 2/28/09 address
    … the part that has the righties panties in a knot:

    I realize that passing this budget won’t be easy. Because it represents real and dramatic change, it also represents a threat to the status quo in Washington. I know that the insurance industry won’t like the idea that they’ll have to bid competitively to continue offering Medicare coverage, but that’s how we’ll help preserve and protect Medicare and lower health care costs for American families. I know that banks and big student lenders won’t like the idea that we’re ending their huge taxpayer subsidies, but that’s how we’ll save taxpayers nearly $50 billion and make college more affordable. I know that oil and gas companies won’t like us ending nearly $30 billion in tax breaks, but that’s how we’ll help fund a renewable energy economy that will create new jobs and new industries. In other words, I know these steps won’t sit well with the special interests and lobbyists who are invested in the old way of doing business, and I know they’re gearing up for a fight as we speak. My message to them is this:

    So am I.

    The system we have now might work for the powerful and well-connected interests that have run Washington for far too long, but I don’t. I work for the American people. I didn’t come here to do the same thing we’ve been doing or to take small steps forward, I came to provide the sweeping change that this country demanded when it went to the polls in November. That is the change this budget starts to make, and that is the change I’ll be fighting for in the weeks ahead – change that will grow our economy, expand our middle-class, and keep the American Dream alive for all those men and women who have believed in this journey from the day it began.

    Thanks for listening.


  216. tombaker says:

    reaganman – thanks for the 50-year-old red scare talking points – when exactly did they thaw you out?


  217. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    barfly Says:

    Personally, I think it’s the other way around. I think being screwed up in the head causes one to become a Conservative.

    So you’re arguing that it’s a matter of biology, and not a matter of choice?

    Well, physiology, yes. I don’t think it’s “biology” in the sense of it being necessarily genetic. (Not necessarily.) I think it’s more like somewhere along the line, their fears took over their minds and they refused to stop, calm down, take a deep breath, and think. Every single one of their justifications for doing what they think we should do is based on an unsubstantiated fear that something that disgusts them might happen if we don’t do what they say. Some conservatives are, I believe, born with a predisposition toward letting their fears rule their thinking, but I think the rest are probably just bitter and hateful towards liberals. (Many of the more rabid right wing “thinkers” are former lefties, and they seem to have the most hate-filled rhetoric. Think David Horowitz and his ilk.)

    Something went horribly wrong (as in anti-social, or psychotic) in their heads, and they started believing in Conservatism.


  218. angels81 says:

    So Archie you are back. Maybe you could go back up to #203 and answer my question or is that to hard for you.


  219. continuum says:

    Absolutely no one is surprised at Limbaugh’s or Santorium’s statements.

    These self-important, self-absorbed conservative butts would rather that 90% of Americans suffer, than have their own delusions shattered.

    The CPAC folks live in a non-reality. These neocons project their own bad faith actions upon everyone else.

    As their own philosophy failed during the last 12 years, they are afraid that a different approach will succeed.

    You can only describe these neocon Republicans as pitiful, sad and dangerous in the sense of a rabid dog.


  220. barfly says:

    I want the America designed by the Founding Fathers.

    Another southern loser who dreams of owning slaves…


  221. WestCoastLiberal says:

    Of course they hope Obama fails, that’s their credo..government doesn’t work so it’s every man for himself. The GOP has become the party of failure, pure & simple. It amazes me that any American would want to be affiliated with them.


  222. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Mr. Vandelay, what exactly in my “screed” was false?

    I’d like to make sure it doesn’t contain any errors before publication.

    Thanks.


  223. tombaker says:

    Seriously – They’ve got 6 rhetorical parlor tricks (those that young Rove stole from Atwater’s fil-a-fax)

    false choice
    false moral equivalency
    conflation
    strawman
    red herring
    ad hominem

    couldn’t pass COM101 on that skillset guys.


  224. barfly says:

    Something went horribly wrong (as in anti-social, or psychotic) in their heads, and they started believing in Conservatism.

    So you’re actually arguing the opposite, that environmental factors (childhood beatings, ingesting paint chips, being dropped on one’s head as an infant) are the dominant factor?


  225. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    had enough,

    It was a great address. I loved the part where he said, “So am I.” The right wing is scared out of their panties, because they know he will put up a fight. And they also know that with a near-80% approval rating, they won’t get the support of the American people to fight Obama. That just leaves lying and cheating. I guess it’s lucky for them they’ve been honing the arts of Lying and Cheating to where they can do them in their sleep.


  226. angels81 says:

    I will repeat, look at their leaders. Rush, Malkin, Steele, Kantor, Jindal Bachman, Ann(I’m a man)Coulter and Joe the plumber. Would you buy a used car from anyone of them?


  227. Xisithrus says:

    Limbaugh should probably be worrying about his heart failing


  228. Xisithrus says:

    But, this is funny, Limbaugh doesnt have the guts to say that Jindals speech was a failure.

    I know Limbaugh has plenty of guts, but where are they on Jindals speech?


  229. McWars says:

    Even with the irritableness of walking in trash (trolls) to unearth fresh roses (progdemlibs), posters like ralph the great @ 256 explain the undying inferior troll complex and polish our side, one thread at a time.

    Kudos, ralph!


  230. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I love how wingnuts dream of this idyllic past when “The Founding Fathers” had all the answers and a unified vision for America.

    Which Founding Fathers did you mean, Reaganmummy?

    Did you mean the America designed by Thomas Jefferson, who believed in liberal ideals of equality but also owned slaves and supported states’ rights in order to preserve the right to own slaves?

    Or did you mean the America designed by John Adams, who supported a strong federal government and abhorred slavery, but who signed the Alien and Sedition Acts?

    Which America did you mean?


  231. barfly says:

    Would you buy a used car from anyone of them?

    If I was a chop shop, perhaps. But then, I’d be taking for granted it was hot.


  232. McWars says:

    The Architect Says:
    ralph the wonder llama Says

    Your false screed shows you are desperately trying to cover your ass. No soup for you. :)

    Yeah, ralph, enough of that intelligence, “Troll Determined to Attack TP threads.” You’ve covered your ass!


  233. tombaker says:

    I though real-man Conservatives eschewed “victimhood” Mr. Vandelay. Why do you so eagerly insist you’re victimized?

    Isn’t that what some shiftless loser would do to get a handout?

    Grab your bootstraps, friend – you’ll be ok.


  234. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Not quite, barfly. I believe that there is no “one size fits all” explanation for why people become conservative. Some are born with a genetic pre-disposition to let their fears rule their thinking, and some started thinking that way because of something traumatic in their lives (physically or emotionally).

    Whether they were born that way, or came to be that way later in life, there is something wrong with them. Either way, they are letting their fears do their rationalizing for them, and that’s why they are always wrong. And that’s why Hope will win in the end.


  235. Bobwurst says:

    Reaganman Says:
    I hope Obama fails as well

    Something else you have in common with Bin Laden.


  236. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    Reaganman Says:

    I hope Obama fails as well. I want the America designed by the Founding Fathers.

    OK, could you provide a quote from one of the Founding Fathers which could be directed toward President Obama as an indication that he is going against the original design of our representative democracy. Thank you in advance.


  237. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    I love how wingnuts dream of this idyllic past when “The Founding Fathers” had all the answers and a unified vision for America.

    Which Founding Fathers did you mean, Reaganmummy?

    Did you mean the America designed by Thomas Jefferson, who believed in liberal ideals of equality but also owned slaves and supported states’ rights in order to preserve the right to own slaves?

    Or did you mean the America designed by John Adams, who supported a strong federal government and abhorred slavery, but who signed the Alien and Sedition Acts?

    Which America did you mean?

    Which side was Ronald Reagan on during the Founding Fathers’ debates?


  238. barfly says:

    A classic example of attacking the messenger.

    If Betty sees you, you’ll really get a taste of “attack the messenger…”


  239. tombaker says:

    He who delivers a handful of navel lint is not really considered a “messenger”.


  240. Bobwurst says:

    Archie, you’re a bore.


  241. barfly says:

    I’m just using the gay arguments Wayne. Lame joke, but oh, well…


  242. Pseudonym says:

    You only say you “hope” something fails if you are afraid that it won’t fail. This language demonstrates that A) They care more about ideology than the success of America and B) They actually KNOW that their ideology and the policies that result from it don’t work and the KNOW that progressive policies do work and that they are about to be exposed as failures themselves.

    Therefore, they hopeObama’s policies fail so that their conservative ideology/policies aren’t proven to be inept and wrong for America.


  243. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Which side was Ronald Reagan on during the Founding Fathers’ debates?

    I believe he was performing in a roving theatre troupe at the time. He usually played the part of a bear.


  244. barfly says:

    Archie, you’re a bore.

    And Betty’s a whore. That’s the only way he can get laid.

    But those crabs he special deliveried to her are no joke…


  245. angels81 says:

    Archie, can’t you answer my question I posted #203? I’m sure Rush has given you a talking point you can refer to, so you can sound like you know what you’re talking about, or did your guy leave you speechless.


  246. tombaker says:

    I’m pretty sure rhf was fed up with your odious presence Mr. Vandelay.

    Others, however, are fully prepared to delight in your odd form of entertainment for as long as your stamina will bear.


  247. McWars says:

    If you made me look so foolish, why would you ask that? I rest my case. :)

    February 28th, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    I hope you write that on an essay for admission to the crappiest law school in the country. You’ll never get in.


  248. Xisithrus says:

    hope Obama fails as well. I want the America designed by the Founding Fathers.

    Those guys who said government was for, by and of the people?


  249. tokin librul says:

    Who was it said conservotards are engaging in one of humanity’s great quests: to formulate an ethical excuse for selfishness.

    or a paraphrse thereof..


  250. tokin librul says:

    Those guys who said government was for, by and of the people?

    that was Lincoln, 90 years on from the founders.
    It wasn’t true of the Founders. They were oligarchs, who mostly feared and detested the ‘people.’


  251. Bobwurst says:

    tombaker Says:
    I though real-man Conservatives eschewed “victimhood” Mr. Vandelay. Why do you so eagerly insist you’re victimized?

    Isn’t that what some shiftless loser would do to get a handout?

    Grab your bootstraps, friend – you’ll be ok.

    It’s too late for this generation of conservatives, we need to help their children not be so whiny:http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20060326/ai_n16174533


  252. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    I’m sure Rush has given you a talking point

    This gets funnier every time I see it. :)

    If you think it’s funny now, try repeating it while looking in the mirror.


  253. tombaker says:

    (he’s off into the alternaverse of trolling now – his imaginary audience emitting waves of approving giggles with every post, he glancing back over his shoulder with a smirk of appreciation, and a wink to the duhluminati who await his next master-stroke)


  254. angels81 says:

    Archie, but you still can’t answer a very simple question, unless you don’t really have a clue about what you are talking about. I thought you rightwing necons believed in what you say you stand for. If so, you should be able to answer my simple questions.


  255. curious says:

    These Republicans. Just think about how little they care if the country goes under. Just as long as a black, democrat does not pull us out of the depression. What must it be like to care so little about their own country and their own fellow citizens.

    And yet they still have middle class Republicans that will continue to vote for them. And you have to wonder why.


  256. Bobwurst says:

    Archie is real patriot, that’s why he comes here to “waive” the flag…


  257. tombaker says:

    Now worries Bob – their kids have already given up on them.


  258. Bobwurst says:

    Archie was whiny as a child.


  259. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    architect designs
    shallow and weak foundation
    his own wind topples


  260. Fred says:

    The Architect Says:
    If you made me look so foolish, why would you ask that? I rest my case. :)

    From what I see, you did that all by your little self. Maybe you could improve yourself if you took a forign language course.


  261. tombaker says:

    except for that child-bot they put on stage like a trained monkey at CPAC. that caused me to shudder just a bit – like seeing those white supremacist kids in a documentary…


  262. ralph the wonder llama says:

    tokin librul Says:
    Who was it said conservotards are engaging in one of humanity’s great quests: to formulate an ethical excuse for selfishness.

    or a paraphrse thereof..

    Tokin, that was John Kenneth Galbraith:

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.


  263. Xisithrus says:

    An overhang with no visible means of support


  264. angels81 says:

    Archie comes here with cute little remarks, but can’t back up anything he says. I asked him to respond to what I posted at #203, but he can’t. It tells me that he really doesn’t have a clue about why he believes in, its just someone else’s talking points.


  265. Bobwurst says:

    I know that basic logic carries no “wait” (that’s for you archie) with conservatives but:
    Archie wants Obama to fail
    Al Queda wants Obama to fail,
    Therefore Archie is aligned with Obama.


  266. tombaker says:

    uh-oh – someone’s tank is running dry…

    watch out for an all-caps outburst, followed by an imaginary, upscale “previous commitment” that will require flouncing off into the sunset.


  267. Bobwurst says:

    Oh crap, that should be Therefore Archie is aligned with Al Queda…


  268. ralph the wonder llama says:

    The Architect Says:
    forign language course.

    Is that libtalk?

    …says the guy who talked about “waiving” the flag…

    That Art Vandelay is one funny guy.



  269. Xisithrus says:

    Rush is not a conservative, hes a country clubber.


  270. Fred says:

    The Architect
    It’s trajen, to much weak sause to be anyone else.


  271. angels81 says:

    Hey Archie, be a man and try to answer my question. I know its hard for a 13 year old to be a man, but give it a try.


  272. Bobwurst says:

    Yeah Ralph, Archie has nothing stronger than pouncing on typos to support his argument.


  273. ralph the wonder llama says:

    tombaker Says:
    uh-oh – someone’s tank is running dry…

    watch out for an all-caps outburst, followed by an imaginary, upscale “previous commitment” that will require flouncing off into the sunse

    Could be, tom, but my money’s on a strategic playing of the victim card. It’s a classic.


  274. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    Al Queda

    Who’s that?

    That’s the Islamic wing of the republican party.


  275. Reaganman says:

    To all my kind American friends so in fear of my comments about Freedom and the Founding Fathers…I happen to loathe all of you…(kind of like Clinton Loathed the military). I need painkillers like Rush does too just to live in a country so filled with immoral and pathetic Liberals such as your selves.

    Maybe I should have just done a little crack like Obama??? I could perhaps see that utopian run government you all do.

    Till then, I will keep my money, guns and bible in safekeeping till you try to take them.

    Oh and by the way…I am a 29 yr. old Conservative (not a thawed out 50 year old)- the son of an alcoholic father – payed for my education through military service and waiting tables – worked my ass off and now am in the tax bracket that Obama calls rich.
    I personally wouldn’t piss on you liberals if you were on fire.

    I despise all that you stand for that much. Conservatism is not perfect – but it is a far cry better than being dependent on the governments Tit for their livelihood.


  276. joe cantwell says:

    the arch

    is mr. p.

    *

    busted.

    :)

    Mr. Philby Says:

    There will be a post dedicated to pointing out the lies and smears of tp (appropriately named) on fri at J$’s Place. I’ve been documenting them for 7 days. Thanks!

    *

    so what happened,

    your dog eat it?

    ***


  277. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    I guess Reaganman isn’t going to answer my post #289 or, more accurately, can’t answer it.


  278. Fred says:

    The Architect Says:
    “See What A Conservatard Thinks”

    see…..to rock stupid to be anyone else.


  279. Xisithrus says:

    Al QuedaThe Architect Says:
    Al Queda

    Who’s that?

    Runny Raygun called them freedom fighters


  280. spencers mom says:

    TokinLib at 3:12, Mario Cuomo made a statement years ago on one of the Sunday morning shows that has stayed with me. “The legacy of the Reagan administration was that it became socially acceptable to lack compassion.”

    Bush II legacy is to update the mission to “lack compassion and integrity”.

    PEACE


  281. Bobwurst says:

    Reaganman, nice pose. but if you want President Obama to fail, you are on the same side as Bin Laden, you traitor.


  282. Fred says:

    Archie:

    El arquitecto ha construido una casa de la paja


  283. angels81 says:

    Raygunman, Feel better now?


  284. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Can anyone explain why the Reagan worshipper thinks we are “in fear” of his comments about Freedom and the Founding Fathers?

    Is it possible he smelled the fear scent wafting in from Archie’s direction and decided that it was us?

    “In fear of” comments about the Founding Fathers?

    WTF?


  285. Reaganman says:

    TO: PatrioticLiberalChristian

    I can answer your question when I return from taking my children to dinner. Not that you are worth my effort…


  286. angels81 says:

    Raygunman, Take your time, you won’t be missed.


  287. Xisithrus says:

    Conservatism is not perfect – but it is a far cry better than being dependent on the governments Tit for their livelihood.

    Why do you hate Cheney and Halliburton?

    Why do you hate wall street?


  288. tombaker says:

    I’d piss on you Reaganboy – fire or no.

    That’s what makes me nice, and you a ho.


  289. E Z Rider says:

    What I don’t understand is, this CAPC meeting was a gathering of a collection of some of America’s must notorious criminals in one place. Why didn’t the FBI raid it and make arrests like they did the Mafia in upstate New York years ago.

    I guess their intel computer was down.


  290. angels81 says:

    Is Raygunman and Archie the same person?


  291. Fred says:

    Reaganman sounds like he was in one of the circular firing squads the republicans are now famous for and took a grazing shot to the temple.


  292. Bobwurst says:

    Hey Archie, I tried engaging you in an actual discussion and you refused. See post 69.


  293. Reaganman says:

    I loved torquing off you liberal idiots. GO to the mailbox and wait for your checks…


  294. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Maybe Reaganmummy’s determination of “fear” is just one more instance of a conservative manifesting classic psychological projection.


  295. Bobwurst says:

    Reaganman Says:
    TO: PatrioticLiberalChristian

    I can answer your question when I return from taking my children to dinner.

    This one must have visitation rights on the weekend…


  296. tombaker says:

    freaked out hysterical Righties.

    O! For Joy!!!


  297. tombaker says:

    get over here so I can pee on ya, handsome…


  298. Xisithrus says:

    Hey Runnyraygunman do you remember in 2005 when the GOP porked 24 billion with some 6376 earmarks?

    AT $286.4 BILLION, the highway bill [2005 GOP majority congress] just passed by Congress is the most expensive public works legislation in US history. In addition to funding the interstate highway system and other federal transportation programs, it sets a new record for pork-barrel spending, earmarking $24 billion for a staggering 6,376 pet projects

    Seems to me privatization IS sucking off the public teet.


  299. hanshiro says:

    334.Reaganman Says:

    Wow, late entry in the “speak like a winger” contest and I hafta say, a frontrunner. It has everything: Clinton, republican catchphrases, talking points, comprehension of a flatulent pigeon, Geezus, it’s downright scary!


  300. angels81 says:

    Raygunman, you failed. All you’ve done is give all of us a good laugh.


  301. Bobwurst says:

    And archie, there’s a difference between a typo and not knowing what a single-syllable word means…


  302. barfly says:

    They’re just a little raw, about being betrayed by their “big thinkers,” like Kudlow, who led them down a garden path, and right over an economic cliff.


  303. tombaker says:

    Reaganboy – If your Dad pissed away his time in the service getting drunk – we want our money back – that’s not what we pay the military for.


  304. angels81 says:

    Archie, still don’t have the balls or brains to answer my question from #203. Being brainless must be a terrible thing.


  305. joe cantwell says:

    The Architect Says:
    angels81 Says:

    Is Raygunman and Archie the same person?

    Yes because everyone knows that only one person in the world disagrees with you……….

    *

    that settles that.

    ***


  306. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    Reaganman Says:

    TO: PatrioticLiberalChristian

    I can answer your question when I return from taking my children to dinner. Not that you are worth my effort…

    Don’t bother. Enjoy your children and focus on being their father. I think it might do you all good.


  307. Reaganman says:

    TO: Bobwurst

    Say that to my face. Mention my kids again and I will find you…


  308. spencers mom says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Can anyone explain why the Reagan worshipper thinks we are “in fear” of his comments about Freedom and the Founding Fathers?

    Ralph, I was overcome with “GOOP Cut ‘n Paste” stench. No way that didn’t come directly from another site.

    TP, it really would be so much easier if you could simply begin banning by IP address. These are the same old trolls successfully banned yesterday, wearing new wigs and lipstick today. Much appreciated!

    PEACE


  309. Bobwurst says:

    The Architect Says:
    Geezus, it’s downright scary!

    And you can’t refute one single point!

    It looks like archie thinks that refute means to fute something again….


  310. tombaker says:

    Find me, RBoy – so I can pee on you.

    Torque much handsome?


  311. Fred says:

    Architect,

    El arquitecto tiene miedo de la gente que habla una diversa lengua

    see archies link, he dun like piples who don spik enlich.


  312. hanshiro says:

    (via Americablog)

    A new nationwide study (pdf) of anonymised credit-card receipts from a major online adult entertainment provider finds little variation in consumption between states.

    “When it comes to adult entertainment, it seems people are more the same than different,” says Benjamin Edelman at Harvard Business School.

    However, there are some trends to be seen in the data. Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption, the study finds.

    “Some of the people who are most outraged turn out to be consumers of the very things they claimed to be outraged by,” Edelman says….

    The biggest consumer, Utah, averaged 5.47 adult content subscriptions per 1000 home broadband users…

    Eight of the top 10 pornography consuming states gave their electoral votes to John McCain in last year’s presidential election – Florida and Hawaii were the exceptions. While six out of the lowest 10 favoured Barack Obama….

    Residents of 27 states that passed laws banning gay marriages boasted 11% more porn subscribers than states that don’t explicitly restrict gay marriage….

    States where a majority of residents agreed with the statement “I have old-fashioned values about family and marriage,” bought 3.6 more subscriptions per thousand people than states where a majority disagreed. A similar difference emerged for the statement “AIDS might be God’s punishment for immoral sexual behaviour.”

    Let me just add, BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Anyone surprised?…anyone?….


  313. Patty says:

    To Reaganman:

    Treason.


  314. Xisithrus says:

    370 Reaganman

    Sounds like a terrorist


  315. tombaker says:

    IS a domestic terrorist.


  316. angels81 says:

    Raygunman, I live in Minneapolis, come and visit. I’m a biker who would love to see you come and visit.


  317. curmudgeon says:

    The closing words of Lincoln’s Gettysburg address: “…and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”

    Fast forward to July 27, 1988, when Ronald Reagan, addressing the Future Farmers of America, remarked, “The ten most dangerous words in the English language are ‘Hi, I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.’”

    So, we are to be afraid of a government which is “of the people, by the people and for the people”? And at the same time, we are told to have no fear of megacorporations whose only concern is maximizing profits, regardless of the cost to others?

    A government that is “of the people, by the people, and for the people” is only considered dangerous by those whose interests are diametrically opposed to those of the people. The anti-people crowd were duly recognized during George W. Bush’s comments on October 20, 2000, about the “the haves and the have mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base.” For a refresher, go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn4daYJzyls

    Food for thought:

    “Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.” — Thomas Jefferson

    “The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep’s throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty.” — Abraham Lincoln

    Translation for the latter quote: “The shepherd (i.e., those who truly represent the people who elected them) drives the wolf (i.e., the elite, whether they are wealthy individuals, corporations and/or goverment officials using their position to enrich the other two) from the sheep’s (i.e., the people’s) throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty.”


  318. barfly says:

    Geezus, it’s downright scary!

    And you can’t refute one single point!

    I fileted those an hour ago. They’re over on the counter, but the flies have been picking at them…


  319. Bobwurst says:

    Reaganman Says:
    TO: Bobwurst

    Say that to my face. Mention my kids again and I will find you…

    First of all, prove they’re your kids…
    Second of all, threatening someone on the internet show how big a puss you are.
    Third of all, I thought you were taking your “kids” out to dinner, what happened, did they decide they would rather not get into the car with you?


  320. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Reaganman,

    What’s it like to be so consumed by hate? Do you feel empathy for anyone who is suffering? Do you believe that it was your conservative beliefs, and your conservative beliefs alone, that allowed you to get to the point where you earn more than $250,000 per year? Because if that’s true, there are some cold hard facts about Liberal America that you would need to learn.


  321. Xisithrus says:

    Raygunman said: I loved torquing off you liberal idiots. GO to the mailbox and wait for your checks…

    You have about as much chance of ‘torquing’ me off thru name calling and silly projectionism, as Limbaugh does at being relevant.


  322. Fred says:

    Bobwurst, you hit a sore spot, Reaganman must have to pay child support….couldn’t keep the old sacntimony of marrige thing going I guess.


  323. tombaker says:

    (he’s got that blood-fever ragin’ now. thinly-veiled threats of violence, temples pounding, knee pumping frantically against the underside of the desk, pleading with his portrait of Reagan(actually a vintage movie poster of “Bonzo goes to the Casbah) to give him the strength to cling to the myth just one more day…)


  324. hanshiro says:

    366. The Architect Says: And you can’t refute one single point!

    Uh..yeah, that’s it. I’m bloody terrified…


  325. angels81 says:

    Nice try Archie, If your ever in Minneapolis, come up to the red and white building on Washington Ave and ask for JJ.


  326. Bobwurst says:

    Angels 81,

    That’s perfect, Reaganman will meet you in the third stall of the men’s bathroom at the airport, He’s very familiar with it.


  327. Xisithrus says:

    The wingnuts talk about tradition and following the constitution and its very apparent they are being duped into putting government power into the hands of the banksters.

    Thats not conservatism..


  328. tombaker says:

    Reaganman Says:

    I loved torquing off you liberal idiots. GO to the mailbox and wait for your checks…

    You mean like those checks Geo.W. Dummy sent everyone? Twice?


  329. tombaker says:

    simpletons should stick to the sports page.


  330. angels81 says:

    bobwrust, I’m not threatening anybody. Don’t overreact. I always like to meet new friends.


  331. barfly says:

    Reaganman Says:

    Mention my kids again and I will find you…

    Anyone who’d take Reagan as a handle isn’t much of a worry.

    He sold weapons to terrorists, while claiming he didn’t, so Reagangroupie isn’t much of a threat. If he shows up with a bible-shaped cake, and tries to sell you TOW missiles, don’t worry: it’s all part of a larger plan.


  332. hanshiro says:

    395.The Architect Says: I say “no” to drugs. No thanks.

    Ah, so its the booze that explains your rationale…


  333. Fred says:

    El archie es muy feo


  334. shoeless says:

    barfly Says:

    Personally, I think it’s the other way around. I think being screwed up in the head causes one to become a Conservative.

    So you’re arguing that it’s a matter of biology, and not a matter of choice?

    I think it’s daddy issues. Most people who call themselves “conservatives” these days are really just authoritarians. Their fathers messed them up, so now they can’t think for themselves.


  335. Xisithrus says:

    Raygunman Said: GO to the mailbox and wait for your checks…

    I waited and waited and waited…no checks.

    Maybe your pajamas media check was misrouted?


  336. shoeless says:

    hanshiro Says:

    395.The Architect Says: I say “no” to drugs. No thanks.

    Ah, so its the booze that explains your rationale…

    I think you are jumping to conclusions. Some people are stupid even when they are sober.


  337. Bobwurst says:

    angels81 Says:
    bobwrust, I’m not threatening anybody. Don’t overreact. I always like to meet new friends.

    I didn’t think you were threatening him, I assumed you were calling his bluff. You’ll notice he has disappeared. I’d be wiling to bet the closest reaganman ever came to the military was playing xbox.


  338. kasinca says:

    The insanity of the wingnuttery gallery, hoping the policies of the new president fail, reveals that they care nothing for the country or the citizens.

    If the president’s policies fail it means that the reichwingnut philosophy put our country and our economy in such peril it could not be saved.

    Way to go wingnuts.


  339. Xisithrus says:

    395.The Architect Says: I say “no” to drugs. No thanks.

    I recall that Limbaugh used to say something along those lines as well. No, apparently, means ‘Yes’ in doublespeak.


  340. Bobwurst says:

    Archie, everyone here already know you have comprehension issues.


  341. hanshiro says:

    370. Reaganman Says: TO: Bobwurst Say that to my face. Mention my kids again and I will find you…

    390.The Architect Says: Second of all, threatening someone on the internet show how big a puss you are.
    :D

    Wow, a winger circle-jerk…


  342. spencers mom says:

    Anyone else think that reaganman, after spewing his hatred, passing judgement, painting all who disagree with his narrow view with the same broad brush, will show up at church tomorrow morning feeling all righteous and holier than thou?

    Okay, that’s just a sucker bet.

    PECE


  343. Fred says:

    Architect,
    Empuje por favor uno para el inglés

    archiebald, note the word uno, it means one….para means for and inglés, well, you get the idea.


  344. barfly says:

    Oh, for the self-assured, gloats who used to show up in ‘04, and ‘05. Now there was some quality trolling.

    These guys?

    Bah. Strictly high-school.


  345. shoeless says:

    Bobwurst Says:

    The Architect Says:
    Geezus, it’s downright scary!

    And you can’t refute one single point!

    It looks like archie thinks that refute means to fute something again….

    Now that’s funny!


  346. Bobwurst says:

    Reaganman? Where are you? I hope you’re not out driving around running every prius you see into the ditch or something.


  347. Fred says:

    loosly translated.


  348. kasinca says:

    The Architect Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    reveals that they care nothing for the country or the citizens

    Quite the opposite.

    How so genius? The peril we face after the past free market, deregulation debacle has us in uncharted waters. How can more failure be good for anyone? If you hope for failure of this president, any president, you hope for failure of the country and it’s citizens.

    Have you ever served in the military?


  349. Xisithrus says:

    Architect Said: Quite the opposite.

    Yes, its why they want the economy to morph into a full blown depression, why Roberston wants San Fran blown up, why a nuke hitting chicago would be funny, why Coulter talks about poison in judges creme brulee, why Bolton want the top ten floors knocked off the UN, why McCain wants to bomb bomb bomb


  350. angels81 says:

    I don’t believe that the web gives you the right to threaten people because nobody knows who you really are. I responded to raygunman to let him know where he could find me if he really meant what he said. Saying he would hunt someone down for a comment on a web page, well he can always find me if he is so inclined.


  351. Bobwurst says:

    Now archie has been reduced to cutting and pasting random posts like some sort of a wingnut exquisite corpse.


  352. Fred says:

    The Architect Says:
    Second of all, threatening someone on the internet show how big a puss you are.

    but responding to a thread and telling the person exactly where to find you…..not the same. see how that works. Try again


  353. Bobwurst says:

    Hey angels, you didn’t threaten reaganboy, you called his bluff. That archie is too stupid to see that just means that archie is stupid.


  354. Fred says:

    The Architect Says:
    Second of all, threatening someone on the internet show how big a puss you are.

    but responding to a thread and telling the person exactly where to find you…..not the same. see how that works. Try again.

    btw standing on the side trying to egg on the fight, well, my little sister used to do that…..that would be you.


  355. shoeless says:

    Even as much as I was against the Iraq War, I never hoped that it would be such a debacle that our country would lose thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. I could see it coming.


  356. barfly says:

    Quite the opposite.

    It’s the big bad daddy, the stern authoritarian, they crave.

    The poor must be punished (conservatives think), for daring to believe in the American dream.

    In their eyes, the poor are fodder units, nothing more.


  357. Bobwurst says:

    And I agree with whoever noted the lack of quality trolls since conservatives have been roundly repudiated in the last two election cycles.


  358. shoeless says:

    Now, even gutless warmongers like Archie understand what I knew before the invasion. So, he is trying to find someone other than Bush to blame for the disaster.


  359. spencers mom says:

    Archie is just one typo away from the “I know you are but what am I” argument. I’ve yet to see a coherent thought in any of its posts and now I can’t even follow the “huh, thought so” and “what’s your point” and “geezus it’s scary” broken synapses.

    PEACE


  360. angels81 says:

    I will call someones bluff. When I post something I tell the truth as I see it. Just because someone uses some handle to post hate and threats on the web gives him some kind of pass I don’t except. My motto is, put up or shut up. I will stand up for what I believe, and I won’t stand behind not being known as a excuse.


  361. Xisithrus says:

    The dirty little secret is that Limbaugh wants a depression where retired people will lose what they saved, where employment goes into double digits, where people lose their homes and businesses shutter.

    Limbaugh wants to see Americans out on the streets selling apples, camped in their cars, holding up signs on street corners begging for work.

    Limbaugh wants to see children go hungry.


  362. Bobwurst says:

    spencers mom Says:
    Archie is just one typo away from the “I know you are but what am I” argument.

    Actually,,,I believe he tried a variation of that one when he tried to claim that we wanted bush to fail in Iraq….


  363. hanshiro says:

  364. dbearton says:

    The Criminal Bush admitted he condoned torture, a traitor and war criminal; now the RepubliCons admit they are a party of traitors. Serious investigations must begin! Time to start passing out jail terms.


  365. Xisithrus says:

    Limbaugh is doing Osama Bin Ladens work, carrying his water, hoping that America fails.


  366. dumbstruck says:

    These guys are still in 1984 mode.

    “WAR IS PEACE
    FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
    IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.”

    So maybe FAILURE IS SUCCESS….???

    At least it has been the last 8 years…


  367. barfly says:

    If one thing has become clear in the evolution of on-line political debate, and that is the first person to threaten other posters with physical violence, automatically loses the debate. Given the near-impossible chance two posters will meet in daily life, it is absurd to engage in such toothless posturing. Now, suggesting someone is cartoonish, and as such, should be wary of other cartoon characters who might have contracted a PTSD in sexual commerce with said fictional creation, well, that’s just a public service announcement.


  368. shoeless says:

    Xisithrus Says:

    Limbaugh wants to see children go hungry.

    Well sure. If things get bad enough, Rush won’t have to go to Dominica in order to find boy prostitutes.


  369. Bobwurst says:

    Right on Barfly, and the idea of someone getting PTSD from having sex with a conservative is a wonderful image!


  370. hanshiro says:

  371. barfly says:

    Oops; sorry for the lack of editing.

    Please don’t beat on me, Archie. It won’t happen again, I promise.


  372. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Xisithrus Says:

    Limbaugh wants to see children go hungry.

    Means more food left for Rush.


  373. Bobwurst says:

    To tell the truth, I really not that worried about reaganman, if he wants to find me he can just come over to his ex wife’s house. I’m attached to the p3nis in her mouth.


  374. hanshiro says:

    Dman, these trolls don’t have the staying power anymore. One crack about the kids and it’s all wanting to get up in your grill.

    They’s real defensive about their farm animals out yonder in red state kontry…


  375. angels81 says:

    So blogging on the web rally means nothing. Anyone can say anything, but because nobody knows who is who it really doesn’t matter. Everybody can be a blowhard and because nobody calls them on their BS its OK. I just don’t buy that shit. If someone threatens someone I will let them know were they can resolve that issue. I have no problem letting people know where they can find me if they really want to make good on their threats. When I come to sites like this I expect people to be honest about their opinions. If people say they will come after someone I take them at their word. All I’m saying is, if you want to come after someone I’ll tell you were to find me.


  376. angels81 says:

    Archie, you really are a sorry troll. We are now at post 446 and you still can’t answer my question from # 203. Are you dumb or what?


  377. Mr. Evil says:

    The republicans hope Obama’s stimulus plan fails. And just what do they think will happen if they get their wish? That all the people that will lose their jobs, retirement, savings, homes, etc. will all of a sudden clamour for more massive tax cuts for the rich and vote for republican candidates? That seems to be their only plan for anything. If their is a reasonable republican on this thread, I’d like to hear your point of view for what the republicans’ vision for our country really is. Because I’ve heard nothing of substance from any republican mouthpiece or representative except lies, distortions and name-calling.


  378. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    hanshiro Says:

    Dman, these trolls don’t have the staying power anymore.
    _____________

    In poker parlance, you can only bluff so much w/ a pair of deuces…


  379. hanshiro says:

    446. angels81 Says: I have no problem letting people know where they can find me if they really want to make good on their threats. When I come to sites like this I expect people to be honest about their opinions. If people say they will come after someone I take them at their word. All I’m saying is, if you want to come after someone I’ll tell you were to find me.

    This is a bad philosophy on so many levels. You don’t know how crazy a great many people are. Second, that nutcase may not be the only one who shows; I remember when FOX broadcast some guy’s home address, it was vandalized doubtless out of ideological revenge for whatever issue compelled them to do so idiotic a thing to begin with.

    Taking on the entire world via the internet is not a ‘prudent investment.’ Anyone who threatens people over the web has already arrived at a mindset by ignoring a plethora of social and temperamental conduct.

    Not the kind of torqued lizard brain you want knowing your whereabouts and identity.


  380. hanshiro says:

    449. The Republic of Stupidity Says: In poker parlance, you can only bluff so much w/ a pair of deuces…

    Considering it was ‘reaganman’ and ‘the architect,’ shouldn’t that be a couple of dou(hes?

    ;-)


  381. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    hanshiro Says:

    Considering it was ‘reaganman’ and ‘the architect,’ shouldn’t that be a couple of dou(hes?
    _____________

    Heh… good one. I’m always a sucker for slick word play.


  382. Trollspotter says:

    The Architect Says:

    Quite the opposite.

    So when you said you wanted to drown President Obama and when you cheered on the notion of dropping a nuclear bomb on Chicago to murder millions of your fellow American citizens, you meant “quite the opposite,” did you, Olbermannn-obsessed troll? What a hate-filled, pathetic little assclown you are.


  383. MCMetal says:

    This is all Sanitarium and that bald-headed pr1ck , Levin deserve ………

    FU(K YOU BOTH ………YOU ANTI-AMERICAN ASSH0LES


  384. weeza says:

    You are irrevelant Santorum. A despicable has been that helped create this mess we are in along with the other GOP scumbags. And now you want Obama to fail, this country to fail. You should all be tried for treason you pieces of crap.

    Every time I see your face or hear you speak I’m reminded of why i worked so hard with Moveon to get you the hell out of office.


  385. dasm says:

    Republicans – totally anti-American & unpatriotic. They want their country to fail.


  386. angels81 says:

    #450: We all come from different worlds. I have a code I live by , and so do you. We come from different worlds and i don’t have a problem with that. We are who we are.


  387. Hawkeye says:

    Another traitorous Republican hypocrite. I’m shocked.


  388. kasinca says:

    What happened to Costanza the architect?


  389. MCMetal says:

    angels81 Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    #450: We all come from different worlds. I have a code I live by , and so do you. We come from different worlds and i don’t have a problem with that. We are who we are.

    February 28th, 2009 at 5:05 pm

    I am definitely going to visit Minneapolis , brother……I’ll try to make it sometime in the middle of the summer ; I’ve got my ‘71 hacked together Fat Boy that I put together myself , that I’m dying to take on a decent run …..

    We’ll have a blast………..


  390. Fontsdeleon says:

    I remember Santorum passing out envelopes full of campaign “contributions” to his fellow gangsters on the senate floor.


  391. Louie says:

    It’s all Limbaugh has left. The Clinton bashing is worn out and out of date. He must keep his show rolling and bring in listeners to pay for his habits. It’s all about entertainment. Really folks, do you ever take that guy seriously . . . and those that do (Santorum for instance) should ask themselves what in heck they are doing to help our country. I could never believe it when Dick Cheney gave Limbaugh status by coming on his foolish show!!


  392. shoeless says:

    angels81 Says:

    Archie, you really are a sorry troll. We are now at post 446 and you still can’t answer my question from # 203. Are you dumb or what?

    It took you 446 posts to figure that out?


  393. shoeless says:

    Louie Says:

    I could never believe it when Dick Cheney gave Limbaugh status by coming on his foolish show!!

    The only status Limbaugh gained was amongst evil galactic emperors.


  394. fatcat_guru says:

    Well, if obama does fail, what will be a severe recession will turn into the second great depression.

    The economic hardship on masses of people will be unimaginable.

    Let me try this, let me try to use republican logic.

    Rick Santorum, i hope you wake up tomorrow with brain cancer.

    Rush, i hope you wake up tomorrow with lung cancer

    Anne Cuntface, i hope you wake up tomorrow with ovarian cancer.

    Arent my wishes better? After all if mine come true we only see 3 people suffer. If theres comes true we see millions suffer.

    What unimaginable unamerican folks we have on the far right.


  395. thepatriotic1 says:

    I believe these neo-cons should face a firing squad for treason……btw google santorum, just santorum and read the third hit down the list.


  396. shoeless says:

    Tracy, I mean Archie, now that you are back angels81 has been waiting very patiently for a long time for you answer his question about WMD in #203.

    If you can’t answer the question, at least be man enough to admit it.


  397. DNFP says:

    So many Dicks, so little time…


  398. mlm216 says:

    I distinctly recall standing in front of the television and watching the first bombs fall in Iraq. I believed and continue to believe that this was in unnecessary, ill-advised war. At the time, the President and his administration led the nation to believe that American troops would be wecomed as liberators (reminiscent of the end of WWII), the fighting would be brief, and that putting Iraq to rights would result in commercial activity (mostly sales of oil) so bountiful that Iraq would have money to spare and would be able to repay the US for the expense of liberating their nation. Predictably (but sadly), things didn’t quite turn out this way.
    As the first bombs fell, Mr. Architect, I prayed that Mr. Bush and his advisors had information and wisdom I lacked, that some good would come of the war, and that our country would continue to live up to our hoped-for image of promoting and defending liberty within our borders as in the world. As much as I believed and still believe this war was the wrong choice, I hoped for success. Why would I do this? Because failure would hurt my country. And it has.
    mlm216


  399. ib42 says:

    The biggest white supremacist group in America? republicans. Just watch their barely concealed hatred when the name of Obama comes up. Dangerous and delusional, like their just kicked out boss. If they could see beyond their terribly short view, they’d be ashamed of themselves. Shamelessness is their hallmark.


  400. MCMetal says:

    The Assh0le Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    So when you said you wanted to drown President Obama
    —————-
    Talkin’ out your ass, again?

    February 28th, 2009 at 6:05 pm

    No ………He’s talkin’ to one …….


  401. charlesRN says:

    Back in the depression when people were starving, some of them were going through the garbage of restaurants. A few conservatives suggested that these people be made to work for the right to do so. Down deep conservatives are nice people, especially Rush Flemball. But unfortunately HELL won’t take them.


  402. MCMetal says:

    The Architect Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    so when you said you wanted to drown President Obama
    ——————
    One would think that when a coward would make such a claim they would have some proof. Typical liberal troll.

    February 28th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    You , an undying supporter of the biggest chickenshits ever crapped out , want to talk smack about “cowards” ?

    Zip it , putz …….You have no game…….


  403. ralph the wonder llama says:

    The Architect Says:
    so when you said you wanted to drown President Obama

    One would think that when a coward would make such a claim they would have some proof. Typical liberal troll.

    No, Archie, when a coward like you makes claims, whether about fact or about others, we don’t expect you to back it up with proof.

    It’s never happened before, and since we are members of the Reality-Based Community, we tend to make our judgments based on empirical evidence. Thus, we don’t expect a coward like you to provide proof of anything you say.


  404. enoughalready says:

    The Repulicans from the right, middle and left have not offered any alternative that addresses our needs. Only the need of their party and idealogy are of interest to them. Not what is best for America.

    To hope someone fails, while offering no other alternative is just plain stupid, UNAMERICAN, and potentially very treacherous for their party’ viability.

    If they have a better plan, present it and fight for it. Who knows, perhaps with the proper vetting, it just may be a better plan.

    But enough of this idealogical crap when all you have to say is “I Hope He Fails” and offer nothing else that is reasonable, intelligent, and appropriate for the situation our country is in.


  405. WaltTheMan says:

    Archie,
    Your qiote in 353 is this in Deusche:
    Der Architekt hat ein Haus vom Stroh gebaut.


  406. pebrooks says:

    Sometimes I forget that we are all Americans, but when I listen to these haters, the likes of Bill O’Reilly,that fat-assed, pill-popping Rush Limbaugh, lil’ Annie Coulter, Pat Robertson and now Chuck Dobson, a most dangerous bigot that hides behind the Bible, I understand that America is not “for the people”, at least not all of us. And some rich lid-or delusional, brainwashed punk, asks why Dick Cheney is hated. Why are the greedy bastards on Wall Street (how about Thain and Lewis) hated and why did we sing “Na-na-na-na, hey, hey…good-bye” as Bush rode off into the sunset back under his rock in Texas. We, those that pay most of what America means, are sick of the absolute GREED displayed. How much richer can you get?! ASk Cheney if the extra millions really make a difference in his life style. Ask Bush. Well, I suppose carving up America helps when you’re rich. These “New Age” Republicans, these heartless people that proclaim a belief in a loving God, will one day stand alone. Maybe that time has come-let’s bury these self-serving little p*****!


  407. pbg says:

    Oh I get it! Howard Roark!


  408. angels81 says:

    McMetal, Look forward to seeing you. Show up at whiskey on cedar ave and ask for JJ. Word will get to me and we will show you a good time brother.


  409. lolmar says:

    I think oboma is awesome! I especially liked him in Speed Racer when he threw poo all over that bad guy. I laughed so hard, I nearly peed my pants!! Classic. Hail to the Chimp!!!


  410. bernieb says:

    A recurring nightmare! What would have happened to Social Security if Bush and the Republicans had gained control of it? Some nightmare!!


  411. radiangirl says:

    Dear Architect,

    The sooner you realize that you and your ilk have become marginalized and irrelevant, the better. This conversation is for grown folks. Go back to the kiddies table.


  412. EugeneDebs says:

    Architect you ignorant punk why dont you just go back to blowing syphilitic lepers on the docks for pocketchange and let the adults.


  413. EugeneDebs says:

    Thats let the adults talk. How did that happen?


  414. bradfot says:

    Architect: Your user name is deceiving because it implies intelligence and based on your comments, you have none. The countries that have the current highest standard of living are all socialist, you moron. But you are so ethnocentric that you refuse to do any research or study on what is working in other countries, you’ll live or die by laissez faire economics. You believe in a dog eat dog world and only look after number 1. The only reason that humans existed was because they learned to live and hunt in packs, communal living. Try going by yourself to hunt ans a saber tooth tiger bears down on you. Liberals founded this country and all conservatives do is slow down progress and research. If we had listened to conservatives, we would still think the world was flat and be subjects of a British monarchy. You people are such a drag on progress, take your monolithic thinking and go to Idaho or Alaska and let the rest of us continue to evolve.


  415. bradfot says:

    Classy, olmar. You’re proof that neanderthals are not yet extinct. You are an embarrassment to humans everywhere.


  416. pebrooks says:

    The audacity of some people! They actually want affordable education and health care (remember United Health’s CEO and his $450,000,000.00 bonus package?)? You mean these people have dreams and aspirations, ideas of a better life? Good grief, what have we done? Education must be a bad thing because it’s allowed people to learn ‘how’ to think, and not ‘what to think. Long live Democracy and all is stands for!


  417. John Callahan says:

    Why is this news?
    It’s like asking Smokey Bear what he thinks about forest fires.


  418. Canny55 says:

    Santorum represents my home state, and I believe that he’s strongly considering a run for the governorship. May any fair-minded challenger vanquish this walking contradiction in the primaries and send him back to the fair-right sewer…


  419. Canny55 says:

    Amendment to the above:

    far-right sewer*


  420. Game of Life says:

    If President Obama fail what the hell the repugs think is gonna happen to them? Idiots.


  421. Game of Life says:

    bernieb Says:

    A recurring nightmare! What would have happened to Social Security if Bush and the Republicans had gained control of it? Some nightmare!!

    OOOO I forgot about this.


  422. Louie says:

    John Callahan, You are right. It is not news. Over the last eight years we have grown accustomed to these bigots spouting hatred and contempt. The aforesaid bunch have done nothing to bring honor to themselves or to our country. I guess we respond because it galls us to hear it again when the United States is in such dire circumstances and when we are grasping for a bit of hope.


  423. fightextremism says:

    despite the vile from the left on this sight, I am hoping President Obama does what he said he intended to do during the campaign. Sideline the haters and teardowners of this country from both sides of the aisle. The middle from both parties should form a new constructive party with men like Mr. Obama at its head. I think the left are going to be surprised and disappointed and the right shocked.


  424. sarapalinrules says:

    I voted for McCain and after the catastrophe of the chimp being elected, I will sit back and watch America collapse all around me. There is no way someone who spends more when we’re broke is ever going to be able to “fix” our economy. Obama has to be the dumbest graduate of Harvard ever. Too bad if he didn’t take any business or economy classes.


  425. EugeneDebs says:

    fightextremism Says:

    despite the vile from the left on this sight
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I am sure you meant site since sight is something optical. Since the vile from the right has ALWAYS been much worse and much more public than ANYTHING that EVER came from the left. I guess you are just a hypocrite.


  426. EugeneDebs says:

    sarapalinrules Says:

    Bimboddyirn is an idiot and so are you. Do morons like you just think if you spew stupidity that Rush puts in your head it will magically become true or are you so stupid that you dont even think THAT far, you just repeat what you were told to believe because THAT is what you are programmed to do. How pathetic and ignorant you are.


  427. EugeneDebs says:

    WOW that was bad it should of course read Bimbostien


  428. sarapalinrules says:

    EugeneDebs: Open your fricking eyes. This country is a huge mess. If you don’t think it is, you need your head examined. It’s only going to get worse under this inferior leadership.


  429. Tim43 says:

    Hoping Obama fails is kind of like hoping communism fails.

    duh.


  430. captain america says:

    Hi I know Obama will fail I just hope your liberal eyes open to see Obama Cast down to Hell For KILLING unborn BABIES for supporting GAY RIGHTS For The LIES he has told getting where he is How Do I know he will fail saten is cast into hell read the Bible O I forgot You have your own book


  431. ralph the wonder llama says:

    TIMMEH!

    I see you brought all your little playmates, too. I’m not sure I have enough juice boxes for all of you… some of you may have to share.

    Uh-oh… that’s gonna be a problem… asking wingnuts to share…


  432. fightextremism says:

    eugenedebs,
    guessing falls under the same category as assuming, it will only get you in trouble.

    I’ll talk with you again when you find out Obama is for middle America, but I do appreciate your vote.


  433. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Why would anyone take seriously a commenter who screen name celebrates the intellectual acuity of Sarah Palin?

    (Or is “sarahpalinrules” more of an homage to hot girls in librarian’s glasses?)


  434. EugeneDebs says:

    sarapalinrules Says:

    EugeneDebs: Open your fricking eyes. This country is a huge mess. If you don’t think it is, you need your head examined. It’s only going to get worse under this inferior leadership.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    My eyes have been open a LOOONNNG time and I dont need Rush to do my thinking for me. YOU are a moron. You dont need your head examined because there is no brain there anyway. You need professional help though. You are stupid. You CALLING Obamas leadership inferior doesnt make it true. It is just what you have been instructed to think and spew in all directions. Of COURSE things are screwed up. The GOP SREWED IT UP. It is time to try something different. If you cant see that you are, well you are stupid anyway but even STUPIDER than your idiotic posts indicate and thats pretty stupid.


  435. EugeneDebs says:

    Tim43 Says:

    Timmeh. Did you drop by to keep your hat in the ring for stupidest troll of them all? Well you have some stiff competition with these new trolls but keep on keepin on because the stupid is strong in you.


  436. EugeneDebs says:

    captain america Says:

    Thank you for the ignorance explosion. We already have plenty of morons to keep us entertained with a free clown show. You ARE stupid. I have to give you that but you lack originality and wit as well as a functional cerebral cortex. If a position opens up for TRULY stupid poster to keep us laughing we will let you know. Until then isnt it time for Rush to tell you what you think today?


  437. Joe the Philosopher says:

    Although his handicap is 32, Mr. Santorum admits he carries gold-plated golf clubs.


  438. EugeneDebs says:

    fightextremism Says:

    eugenedebs,
    guessing falls under the same category as assuming, it will only get you in trouble.

    I’ll talk with you again when you find out Obama is for middle America, but I do appreciate your vote.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Please maintain at least a minimum level of coherence in your attempts, feeble as they are to communicate here. I am under no illusions that Obama is as liberal as I am and never was. Whatever you THINK you were babbling about in that first paragraph well good luck with that adult education thing.


  439. lolmar says:

    You libtard nutswingers are a hoot. I C that “Rush” has become the left wing keyword for the week. LMFAO!!! I got news for you lemmings, if Rush were to die, it wouldnt change the fact that the failbama express is running the country off the tracks. I’m actually surprised that none of you possesses the 3rd grade mathematical skills to figure out that the country is belly up!! Guess they dont call you libTARDS for nothing!!


  440. sarapalinrules says:

    You don’t fix a broke economy by SPENDING MORE!! It’s time to bring this big government mess to an end. I don’t need government employees telling me what I can and cannot do. And leave my fricking guns alone! My guns will only leave my hands when I am dead and gone. You can stick your liberal gun legislation up your azzes!


  441. EugeneDebs says:

    lolmar Says:

    I see the stupidest people on the Planet have dropped by tonight. WOW. That was impressive, vintage stupid. You conpunks really do MORON quite well. Ok now we know how stupid you are. Do you have anything ELSE? I mean besides monumental stupidity to contribute?


  442. labman57 says:

    Rush Limbaugh exemplifies the self-serving, Machiavellian mindset of the far right. Now we see the extent of their self-importance and self-righteousness.

    Limbaugh and his ilk are ignoring the fundamental reality that, with respect to the U.S. economy and our standing in the world, when the President succeeds, we all share in his success. When the President fails, his failure reflects on all Americans.

    Limbaugh, Maykin, and other right-wing extremists would wish to see countless additional Americans lose their jobs, their retirement savings, and their homes, or witness more innocent lives lost at the hands of political extremists, merely so that they could sit back and gloat and the GOP would have a better chance of winning seats in Congress in the next 2 election cycles.


  443. EugeneDebs says:

    sarapalinrules Says:

    Keep your gun. What do I care. It will however NOT replace a functional cerebral cortex. You will still be stupid. Just stupid with a gun. You are not bright enough to tell us what WILl and will NOT work to fix the economy. The most recent NOBEL PRIZE WINNER in economics disagrees with your stupid lets keep doing the same things that CAUSED the crisis advise. So tell us where YOU got YOUR degree in economics? And when did YOU win the Nobel Prize? Oh you DIDNT win one and you dont HAVE a degree in economics? Imagine my suprise. Keep telling us that even though we GAVE the conservatives THEIR shot at running the country and find ourselves in THIS mess that we are dumb for not just continuing to follow morons like YOU off the cliff. Good luck with your gun.


  444. bernieb says:

    Captain America says: “I know Obama will fail” = (America will fail).

    Will C A or someone else from his ‘Ditto-head Party’ tell us when this will be? Also, when will the muslims and OBL take over? When will a communist dictatorship come about under Obama?
    We need them to give us a time frame on these events so we can start collecting for “ditto-head rapture robes” for them. Hmm,would they fly away NOW? …Idiots!!


  445. sarapalinrules says:

    Spending could help if the money was spent on meaningful programs that would actually create permanent jobs rather than create more welfare packages such as Obama and his clan is currently doing. If he had a lick of sense he would work hard on bringing back the jobs we lost to China and India

    I’ll be glad when he gets booted out of office in 2012. There’s no way this incompetent leftist will be re-elected.


  446. dieselis says:

    after reading some of these i’m going to pray for the whole lot of us.i’d like to remind dems&repubs alike JESUS STILL SAVES both sides could use HIM right now.especially the president,congress and the american people.only the LORD can bring us back.you can laugh just like the laughed at noe.unlike noe theres not going to be a boat.i’m going to call on HIM today.its your free choice in took a whole lotta hardship for me to realize cause i thought i was the it.its the voice in the wilderness.don’t say i didn’t warn you.JESUS,HE’LL save a repub,dem,indp all you need is a willng soul HE’LL handle thhe rest.HE’S what hopes all about.i’m living proof,but if you don’t want it.its cool right now you never know what tommorow holds.


  447. EugeneDebs says:

    sarapalinrules Says:

    There is plenty of exactly that kind of spending regardless of what Rush told you to think. Keep dreaming. YOU think Bimbostien is a viable candidate. I am begging you guys to continue in your delusional fantasies.


  448. lturiano301 says:

    Its has just been two months and and these idiots are bashing President Obama for what george junior left behind. Pres. Obama has done more in two months than what george junior destroyed in eight years. These guys are real losers along with the rest of cpac. They really have no purpose in this administration or the next.


  449. OneTimePoster says:

    PatrioticLiberalChristian Says:

    Reaganman Says:

    I hope Obama fails as well. I want the America designed by the Founding Fathers.

    OK, could you provide a quote from one of the Founding Fathers which could be directed toward President Obama as an indication that he is going against the original design of our representative democracy. Thank you in advance.

    PLC,

    Try this one:

    I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. – Thomas Jefferson

    OR:

    Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.
    Thomas Paine

    That government is best which governs least.
    Thomas Paine

    AND:

    It’s not tyranny we desire; it’s a just, limited, federal government.
    Alexander Hamilton


  450. OneTimePoster says:

    Now, having read some very disturbing posts from the so-called “patriots” of the left, I am going to take a long, hot shower and see if I can ever scrub myself clean again.


  451. EugeneDebs says:

    OneTimePoster Says:

    Your time would be better served taking a long look at adult education moron. Were you as concerned about Bush wasting a couple of trillion dollars by lying to take us to war in Iraq? Why is it the stupidest people imaginable think only THEY are patriots. I mean besides the FACT they, like YOU, are bone ignorant? Oh thats right Rush told them so. Go soak your head. It wont give you any much needed braincells but it might make you feel better.


  452. Truth is not relative says:

    President Obama’s policies on defense, economics, health care, taxation, international relations, and morality are so wrong, and the results, if his policies are enacted with a complicit Congress, will be so devastating, that in 40 years, it’s likely you will have difficulty finding anyone who admits to voting for him. Spew all the vitriol you want now; time will tell.


  453. Rick J says:

    Hey let’s not get to excited. This new Prez told you exactly what he was gonna do if elected “Bring Change.” And that is what he and the Dems are doing. Within a year the United States will be a Socialist country simular to what you see in Venezuela. Banks, Auto industry, Big Oil, all large processed food manufacturing and of course media will be nationalized. And by then the House and Senate will be pushing to reverse the Constitutional admendment concerning “term limits,” ala, Hugo Chavez. Soon, anyone who opposes or speaks out against this administration will find it harder and harder to hold a job, bye gas, allowed to have kids in school. Already the Obama adminstration has eliminated school vouchers funding for Wash DC kids which has allowed them to go to private schools. Obama said he would bring change. Well he is bringing change. Get use to it. You ain’t seen nothing yet.


  454. yeswewill says:

    The “Rush Gush” will get old and fast.

    Most of the party are middle class folks, like myself, who can recall when one working parent homes were sustainable. When the average family had the ability to vacation & save money to boot.

    Not so today.

    Many of us are awakening to the assault on the middle class under the Republican rule of the past 28 years.

    The “Gushers” like this joker are the front line soldiers in the war on the middle class.


  455. cptpettigrew says:

    Welcome to the new U.S.S.R., the United States Socialist Republic, and our “Great Leader” Chairman Obama, Commissar Biden, and the head of KGB Deputy Holder. No guns, no press (only Pravda), and no dissent, or else GULAG for you !! This is the “Change” you can believe in, tovarich (comrade).


  456. EugeneDebs says:

    Truth is not relative Says:

    OK we get that you are stupid. We understand you are a moron that lets radio screechmonkeys do your thinking FOR you. What I want to know is are you so delusional that you think these ignorant baseless assertions become true just because you say them or post them? I mean you do know you are a moron dont you?


  457. EugeneDebs says:

    cptpettigrew Says:

    You ignorant brainwashed morons ought to read the newspapers. I know Rush didnt tell you but the cold war is over. You could find someone with a normal IQ to look it up for you. See we arent socialists. YOU are fascist idiots but that doesnt make us socialists. Try to rent a clue before you return to embarass yourself again.


  458. EugeneDebs says:

    Where did the troll explostion come fron and how in the world did so many of them get SO stupid?


  459. lolmar says:

    “Its has just been two months and and these idiots are bashing President Obama for what george junior left behind. Pres. Obama has done more in two months than what george junior destroyed in eight years. These guys are real losers along with the rest of cpac. They really have no purpose in this administration or the next.”

    I’m just curious, will this be the standard excuse for the ENTIRE 1 term, or will it be switched to “its Reagans fault” later? All aboard the failbama express!! Next stop, bottom of the cliff!!


  460. dbadass says:

    Truth is not relative? That’s a bold yet unsupportable stance


  461. brmx says:

    Chimps are dangerous. We’ve had a chimp running amok in the white house for the last eight years throwing feces everywhere and on everything. Apparently Santorum and the chimps other Republican trainers are just going to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots while Obama and his team step in and attempt to clean it all up.


  462. Overit9 says:

    These CPAC extremist nut cases want the US to fail to they can “rescue” the country. HELL NO. They’re neo-fascists disguised in suits and ties. And they’re getting more desperate daily. They want the US to fail. They’ve exposed themselves as being Unpatriotic and unAmerican. Their true colors are apparent for all to see. They’re spewing toxic waste every time they speak ,write or communicate any sad,small warped idea /belief /thought. And they have NO original ideas/solutions to correct problems in the US. That is pathetic. And shows they have no relevant place in the discourse of current American life.


  463. JACK123 says:

    OOGA BOOGA OOK OOK OBONGO


  464. oliverclotheshoffe says:

    Impeach the chimp! Chimpeach! Chimpeach! Chimpeach!

    Well that’s what all of you said about the last president so I don’t see why I can’t say it about this president.

    Unless you’re all racists of course.


  465. piniella says:

    What’s bad for America is good for the movement conservatives.


  466. killermoose says:

    I thought the GOP slogan during the election was “Country First”. I must have missed the bit after that saying “Unless We Lose… Then Screw the Country”.


  467. breadline1 says:

    rush the fat ass bimbo is a dope headed nazi who without daddys money would be totally unknown to anyone except his drug dealer. why any business firm would pay him to run his sh3t spewing mouth is beyond me. what amazes me even more though is that anyone in america would take anything that comes out of his dope injesting trap seriously. he’s the kind of mental defect that if he could would argue with god that the color scheme of earth was too liberal. eat drugs and die, rush! make the world a better place for the rest of us!!


  468. baldyross says:

    As usual coolade drinkers take everything out of context.
    The context is, “we hope Obama fails in his push to socialism”. Who cares though, drink up.


  469. lm945 says:

    GOP Plan A: Do everything possible to sabotage the stimulus, while vociferously crying how bad it is and hoping it fails. They will then ride in on their white horses, rescuing America from the evil Democrats, gaining for themselves a majority and dominance in Congress and control of the White House for all time.

    GOP Plan B when the stimulus succeeds: Vociferously crying as they spend the next 40 years wandering the wilderness, wondering what happened.


  470. jj15683429 says:

    You brainwashed dem’s are the worst hypocrits that ever existed! It was you and your news media cronies that sabotaged (often outright traitors), lied, conspired, and much much worse from the day your precious Gore LOSSSTTTT his bid to be president. And even in that election, there were an estimated 395,000 who voted for Gore that were either DEAD, voted twice or created fake ballots and fake HANGING CHADs. Talk about hypocrits being covered with slime and crap screaming about someone else who has a dirty shoe because they stepped in some of your s%%%!


  471. jj15683429 says:

    And who among you are soooo clean?? You idiots are too blind to understand that THE CONTEXT WAS THAT HE, AND ALL NON-SOCIALISTS, HOPE THAT OBAMA’S AND THE PELOSI-REID CAMP EFFORTS TO CONVERT THE U.S. ECONOMY AND GOVERNMENT TO 100% SOCIALISM WILL FAAAAIIIILLLL! Can that be made ANY CLEARER??


  472. rclakeman says:

    It’s amusing really, you’ve spent 8 years hoping bush failed, now suddenly it’s un american to disagree with the President’s policies? I’m not rich, I’m barely middle class, and I’m a Republican. Obama’s policies will fail, they must fail, or we will have taken the final steps toward socialism. The stimulus package isn’t going to stimulate anythng but a prolonged recession, it’s economics 101. The only way out unfortunately is to let the market bottom and regroup. We are simply throwing good money after bad right now. Health care? The government can’t run anything effeciently and health care is no different. Hell, look at Medicare and multiply by 100. Obama’s agenda is to take from the supposed rich and give to the poor. There’s a name for that isn’t there? and it’s not Democracy. Do I hope Obama fails? Hell ya. Do I hope America succeeds? Double hell ya!!!

    RC Lakeman


  473. frenterprz says:

    All of you Democraphead kool aid drinkers need to be rounded up and institutionallized. Obama will ruin this country and when people have had enough, you better choose the right side.


  474. mollyrambo57 says:

    incredible, what a unamerican, unpatreotic, treasonious nasty rotton thing to say, because if president obama fails that means that the american people will fail. why in gods name would you want our new president’s policies to fail when we all are depending on them to help us, just so you can say i told you so, YOU SOUND LIKE A 5 YEAR OLD BOY WHO IS MAD AND IS GOING TO TAKE HIS BALL AND GO HOME, TALK ABOUT CUTTING YOUR NOSE OFF TO SPITE YOUR FACE, WHAT A LOW LIFE CREEP TO HOPE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS SO THAT WE CAN ALL FAIL, these idiots that are hoping that he fails are far less mature then the 5 year old that wants to take his ball home and don’t belong anywhere in the running of our country, LOOSER TAKE YOUR BALL AND SHOVE IT AND GET OUT OF POLITICS AND LET A MATURE ADULT DO YOUR JOB, ASSINE IDIOT


  475. jay says:

    mollyrambo57 Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    incredible, what a unamerican, unpatreotic, treasonious nasty rotton thing to say, because if president obama fails that means that the american people will fail. why in gods name would you want our new president’s policies to fail when we all are depending on them to help us, just so you can say i told you so, YOU SOUND LIKE A 5 YEAR OLD BOY WHO IS MAD AND IS GOING TO TAKE HIS BALL AND GO HOME, TALK ABOUT CUTTING YOUR NOSE OFF TO SPITE YOUR FACE, WHAT A LOW LIFE CREEP TO HOPE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS SO THAT WE CAN ALL FAIL, these idiots that are hoping that he fails are far less mature then the 5 year old that wants to take his ball home and don’t belong anywhere in the running of our country, LOOSER TAKE YOUR BALL AND SHOVE IT AND GET OUT OF POLITICS AND LET A MATURE ADULT DO YOUR JOB, ASSINE IDIOT

    You Liberal idiots think your the anointed ones but all of your hateful posts here show two things.
    1) Your all full of hate.

    2) Your all scared.

    We Conservatives aren’t going anywhere. The country will need us to repair the damage you Liberal morons are causing.

    Deal with it.


  476. Politicians R Corrupt says:

    Does anyone believe that the Obama Plan will work? Just because he says so? You need to dig deeper behind the media propaganda.Even the CBO Congressional Budget Office report from 1-1-09 says it is not a good idea. Do you really believe 3-4 million jobs will result?
    Go back a few years ago and did you also beliveve it was right to invade Iraq…did you believe there was weapons of mass destruction…I for one did not believe this and wrote to the newspapers and my elected officials.Any one who opposed the war was painted as un American…99% of our elected officials were spineless and did not oppose Bush. So now you believe Obama….Go ahead and drink the kool aid and keep watching ESPN….ZZZZZ
    Bush did a horrible job with the economy but to now double our national debt is not the way to fix it. Markets will correct themselves in time. No amount of fed $$ will correct any faster.All of us and our kids are just going to pay for this down the road in 10 years and the situation will even be more dire.
    The US government was not created to take take care of you and me financially.


  477. frenterprz says:

    Mollyrambo57, looks like you have been under the influence of kool aid for too long. It is not a matter of IF Nobama fails, it is just matter of when. You can go back to rocking in your chair and sucking your thumb now.


  478. alpuz3 says:

    What the heck is wrong with jay?


  479. Tim Olsen says:

    I’m sickened and saddened that our tax payer funded and elected are so full of desire for failure for our country. I didn’t always agree with our corporation’s CEO and managers, but we were employed to support their initiatives or we ended up out on the street. Too bad these guys haven’t tasted the bread from a bread line yet…but they will. Those who live by negativism, go down with negativism. I’m ashamed of these guys. They are Un-American.


  480. Jazzy says:

    Praise the Lord! We got us our first affirmative action Prez!
    Now that the Dems are in control everything will be right in the world!

    You guys with the foul-mouth typing-fingers are soooo impressive. Its nice to know that morons have a Blog all their own.

    Gooooooooo Rush! Peace out Dudes.


  481. alpuz3 says:

    You guys with the foul-mouth typing-fingers are soooo impressive. Its nice to know that morons have a Blog all their own.

    Heh… it only took one sentence. good job, Crazzy.


  482. alpuz3 says:

    This thread has drifted into Bizarro world… what the heck just happened?


  483. jay says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    jay:

    You don’t sleep well do you Twajie? I told you last year it was in your best interest to seek the help of a Psychiatrist. One year later and you have turned into complete basket case. You are washed up as a troll and now are the laughing stock of TP.

    I have no Idea who you are we have never met but one thing is for certain Moron won’t quite do you justice. Bigot maybe. Idiot for sure.


  484. Tim Olsen says:

    The thread drifted because folks can’t deal with the reality that politics are terminally sick in this country. “Don’t look over here, look over there” smoke-screening has been used for the last 8 years and the people are so blind they can’t see the truth for what it is anymore.


  485. jay says:

    Trajan. Do you feel safe here in your Liberal Mutual circle jerk?


  486. jay says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Jays life is now a hell of his own making.

    We have never spoken before Trajan but you go on with your delusions about people. I find most Liberals are very delusional.


  487. jay says:

    alpuz3 Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    What the heck is wrong with jay?

    Nothing wrong with me. I see things pretty clearly. What’s wrong with you Liberals. I know. It’s the sore knees from kissing Obies feet. Hey! Look up.


  488. alpuz3 says:

    So are you suggesting that my knees are sore from spending all my time on them, kissing President Obama’s feet?

    Is that what you’re saying, jay?

    I just looked up and saw the ceiling, jay. Is that what I was supposed to see? What was that all about?


  489. rwjman says:

    Think Progress……….yeah, that’s what liberals always delude themselves into thinking..”Wow, we’re progressive. Aren’t we cool?” Sounds to me like the usual Chicken Little, the sky is falling horseshit I’ve been hearing since JFK. If you folks ever had an original idea that didn’t include raising taxes, getting involved in wars then chickenshitting out of the fight (for those less than fifty years old that means the Viet Nam War) or wanting to rewrite the Constitution for your own narrowminded benefit, I think I would be impressed. But I am not impressed. You have dumbed down the public education system, somehow think nationalized healthcare will work, and then spend more money in ONE WEEK than dumb ol’ George did in nearly eight years of fighting the War on Terror. And the Republicans have pissed me off nearly as much since they spent money like drunken Dummycrats on liberty at a Mexican whorehouse. I think both sides are equally inept, incompetent and have trotted out two losers in a row to our president. While GW was a washout, I think The Big O is going to be equally so and in doing so most likely make that dumbass “progressive” Jimah Carter look like a financial genius. Remember Mr. Carter? I do. Double digit inflation, loan rates above twenty percent and the leadership skills of chimpanzee. His big accomplishment was peace in the middle east. Yeah, that lasted quite a while, didn’t it? Now the upper ten percent of American earners who already pay about eighty percent of taxes are going to have to pay more. So much for the land of opportunity, don’t you think? Why should I try to earn more when all I’ll be taxed more for my efforts and help subsidize the Welfare State LBJ created? Oh, I forgot……….progressive liberals want everyone to be “equal” and to convince the sheeple the “government” will be the ultimate provider. But at the end of the day there really isn’t much difference between liberals and reactionaries….you’re both deluded in your thinking, both party hierarchies are populated by professional politicians who are corrupt and stuff their pockets while the rank and file of both parties are at each others throats. You’re both suckers in the big game!


  490. jmw2006 says:

    Last night I switched to CNN, inadvertently though, and caught Rush Limbaugh and his hateful blabbing.

    I am 62 years old and I did my service to the country, if you know what I mean.

    I listened for about 10 minutes and had to throw up. This is one sick “motherf****r”. I sent an e-mail to his website this morning to let him know what he can do:

    Mr. Limbaugh

    you are the most despicable person living in the US of A. Your views and opinions are full of hate and dirt it hurts an intelligent person to listen to your poop for more than 10 minutes.

    Take your wrong core principals, hateful values and foul opinions and shove up them up where there is never sun light.

    If there is not enough space, then take your ugly fat head out of there and make space. That will give you an opportunity to look at the mess your so beloved GOP has left behind.

    Have a nice day.

    I am so sick of the lying repubs. They are a worst threat to our country than Al Quaida.


  491. jay says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:
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    Lakeman:

    You have got it wrong, we were worried about Bush and his cronies failing and were warning about the consequences of his evil deeds.

    If you were worried about what Bush was doing then why aren’t you worried about what Obie is doing. He opens his mouth and lies while looking you in the eye.

    You complained about the Bush Budget and spending but ignore Obie when he has spent this country into a debt that can never be paid back. In 30 days he has spent 3 times what Bush spent in 8 years.

    He continues most of the Bush Policies. Is now planning a Surge in Afganistan. He said that surges don’t work. He intends to keep 50 thousand troops in Iraq for the next 100 years if need be. That sounds like McCain and we all know how you Liberals beat that one to death. Was McCain correct in what he said now that Obie is going to do the very same thing?

    Yes there are many questions that Obie needs to answer to but you Idiots will never ask them.

    Here’s one. Who are going to pay for the greatest spending spree in the History Of The World ??????

    Yes you Liberal Idiots will have a lot to answer for.


  492. jay says:

    jmw2006 Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Last night I switched to CNN, inadvertently though, and caught Rush Limbaugh and his hateful blabbing.

    I am 62 years old and I did my service to the country, if you know what I mean.

    I listened for about 10 minutes and had to throw up. This is one sick “motherf****r”. I sent an e-mail to his website this morning to let him know what he can do:

    Mr. Limbaugh

    you are the most despicable person living in the US of A. Your views and opinions are full of hate and dirt it hurts an intelligent person to listen to your poop for more than 10 minutes.

    Take your wrong core principals, hateful values and foul opinions and shove up them up where there is never sun light.

    If there is not enough space, then take your ugly fat head out of there and make space. That will give you an opportunity to look at the mess your so beloved GOP has left behind.

    Have a nice day.

    I am so sick of the lying repubs. They are a worst threat to our country than Al Quaida.

    And you Liberals are full of love and compassion. You make me sick. Your day is coming.


  493. alpuz3 says:

    jay says:

    And you Liberals are full of love and compassion. You make me sick. Your day is coming.

    What do you mean by “Your day is coming”, jay?


  494. jay says:

    alpuz3 Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    So are you suggesting that my knees are sore from spending all my time on them, kissing President Obama’s feet?

    Is that what you’re saying, jay?

    I just looked up and saw the ceiling, jay. Is that what I was supposed to see? What was that all about?
    No one should worship any politician. That’s what it was all about. Have you questioned anything Obie has done so far? Do you agree with increasing the National debt another 3 trillion dollars. Who’s going to pay for that and how? Sooner or later it will be a massive tax increase. Not just for the Rich either. The top 5% of the people in this country don’t have a fraction of that amount of money. That’s if you take it all.

    No, Obie wants Socialism and complete control. So does Pelosi. She admitted it with the passage of the Omnibus bill filled with 8 thousand Earmarks that Obie says aren’t there.

    It’s the Liberal goal and I’m not a Socialist. I hope his Socialist programs fail. Go to the Constitution and read Article IV Section 4. That is if you Liberals still believe in the Constitution.


  495. jay says:

    alpuz3 Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    jay says:

    And you Liberals are full of love and compassion. You make me sick. Your day is coming.

    What do you mean by “Your day is coming”, jay?People will wake up to the Liberal scam and demand real change not Puppet change.

    English. Alpuz. Can’t you understand English?


  496. newdeal says:

    Maybe not Jay, he hasn’t answered your other questions, just continued to ask what you mean…


  497. jay says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:
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    alpuz3:

    J is a scientologist latin king wannabe who is a failure at blogging and recently lost control of his blog to a far right cult comprised of fascist Zionist neocon Vogons.

    You have the wrong person Trajan. I have no idea who your talking about. You should go back to the circle jerk. Your stupidity is showing.


  498. 2Hope4Ever says:

    Why do Republicans hate America?


  499. newdeal says:

    Putz…Why attack like a child bringing religion/faiths into a political conversation? It must be the only way you can create a fantasy arguement. If you can’t converse using facts to back up your thoughts, why open your mouth?


  500. frenterprz says:

    Trajan75 IQ0 = Moronic kool aid drinking liberal piece of trash. You should try a different flavor of kool aid idiot!


  501. newdeal says:

    Why Do Democrats hate America?


  502. 2Hope4Ever says:

    Why does former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)hate America?


  503. jay says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Jay:@ 576

    You lost points with the judges for quoting your own sock-puppet.

    I don’t need any points from you. Your an idiot. Oh Ya, I have no socks here. Go get stroked by your friends here if they make you feel better. You have no points with me. Ha Ha Ha.

    Who do you see yourself as being. Some super intellectual who targets people who disagree with you? Your a Liberal Idiot. That’s all. It’s evedent in your posts here.


  504. 2Hope4Ever says:

    Why does Rush Limpball hate America?


  505. jay says:

    2Hope4Ever Says:
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    Why does former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)hate America?

    Why do you?


  506. alpuz3 says:

    jay says:

    People will wake up to the Liberal scam and demand real change not Puppet change.

    ah, I see. So, by electing President Obama, did the nation do just exactly that? Did Americans wake up to the scam of Conservatism, and demand real change?


  507. jay says:

    Trajan. I have no idea who you are. Except I do know that your kinda paranoid. Hey! Piss off.


  508. frenterprz says:

    alpuz 52% to 48% is certainly not a mandate for change. Oh, but I forgot, you have been drinking too much kool aid. Just like your butt buddy trajan75 no IQ.


  509. alpuz3 says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:

    alpuz3:

    J is a scientologist latin king wannabe who is a failure at blogging and recently lost control of his blog to a far right cult comprised of fascist Zionist neocon Vogons.

    A scientologist latin king wannabe? Really? I’ve never seen one of those.

    Awesome.


  510. jay says:

    alpuz3 Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    jay says:

    People will wake up to the Liberal scam and demand real change not Puppet change.

    ah, I see. So, by electing President Obama, did the nation do just exactly that? Did Americans wake up to the scam of Conservatism, and demand real change?
    If he would bring some real change then I might change my opinion of him. So far it’s the same old crap that Liberals do everytime they get in power. Control the people, Tax and now a massive spending plan that no one will ever recover from. You see change???? Washington insiders doing what they always do. Where’s the Change? Show me something.


  511. alpuz3 says:

    Well frenterprz, I have no doubt you don’t think it’s mandate. I on the other hand believe it is/was.

    The Conservative movement was trounced across the board, and now in a complete state of disarray. I do hope you and your buddies are the voice of its future.

    It would make my day.

    ;)


  512. alpuz3 says:

    What’s a butt buddy, frenterprz?


  513. jay says:

    alpuz3 Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Trajan75 IQ Says:

    alpuz3:

    J is a scientologist latin king wannabe who is a failure at blogging and recently lost control of his blog to a far right cult comprised of fascist Zionist neocon Vogons.

    A scientologist latin king wannabe? Really? I’ve never seen one of those.

    Awesome.

    You have the wrong guy fellas. Are you people paranoid or what? Circle jerks?


  514. newdeal says:

    In reading though all the comments, I don’t believe that there is any “one” person here, that has shown any intelligence… 99% of you people are acting exactly like the names you are calling others, and you are an embarrassment to the Democrat Party, you believe in.
    You are acting like a bunch of Junior High boys, and I would venture to say that most of you got beat up a lot as teens. Quite a few personality disorders showing.


  515. sarai216 says:

    Whoever wrote the article is no reporter–only an editorializer who obviously is a socialist intent on ignoring the Constitution.

    Anytime the facts of obamallah’s policies are questioned, the one making the question is attacked viciously. There is no room for discourse. Only fear steers the liberals. That is part of the plan.

    obamallah has gone too far and now the conservatives are really pushing back hard. It is scaring the liberals badly and they know they are in trouble. We Americans do not wish to live in a socialist third world country like Cuba. We do not wish to give up our freedoms, our hard-earned money, and most especially, our Lord and Savior.

    Taxation without representation was tried once. It didn’t work well. You liberals are enslaved to the goverments can do it all for you mind set. All you are lacking are the physical ball and chains. Guns? We will make sure that the criminals are not the only ones who have them…or obamallah’s forces who really don’t want to have to take orders from this untrained little boy who has not one clue what he is doing.

    Illegal president? Bush won fairly, recount was done and was done, and was done. obamallah is the illegal one. He has yet to provide what the Constitution requires.

    No pork, no earmarks? Change you can believe in? Turn to Revelation. Perhaps he is there in that change…not as the antichrist, but a forerunner.

    Come Lord Jesus. This man who exemplifies the Peter Principle is destroying what my ancestors and my uncle who died for this country in service to protect it.


  516. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Whew!

    T75, I told you to make sure you keep the litter box clean if you’re going to play with the trolls.

    You let them crap all over the place. And man, does it stink!


  517. frenterprz says:

    alpuz, the only reason Nobama won, is because people were sick of Bush. Hardly a mandate. His poll numbers are already declining. When people see what he and the other Democrapheads in congress are doing, the game will be up and he will not get another term.


  518. jay says:

    What? You Liberals can’t keep up with the conversation. Trajan uses name calling when his intellegence runs out. How about you alpuz? Tapped out too. Ha Ha Ha Ha.


  519. alpuz3 says:

    jay, do you really believe that? Are you really going to give President Obama an opportunity. You just said upthread he is going to fail, and that the Liberals “day is coming.”

    I have a hard time believing that. It’s been under two months and the “right” has been whining like there’s no tomorrow.

    And what’s with all of this “Socialism” spew?


  520. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    Well J you spewed out your required lies and ignorant talking points. Are you happy being a brainwashed moron with NO idea what you are talking about? Are you satisfied to have screechmonkeys do your thinking for you? Is the problem that you KNOW you are far too stupid to ever have an actual clue so repeating the lies and idiocy you were programmed to believe is the best you can hope for? You are stupid J. I dont know what you hoped to accomplish by stopping by to show us just HOW stupid you are but congratulations. You are a moron, good luck with that.


  521. ralph the wonder llama says:

    newdeal Says:
    In reading though all the comments, I don’t believe that there is any “one” person here, that has shown any intelligence… 99% of you people are acting exactly like the names you are calling others, and you are an embarrassment to the Democrat Party, you believe in.

    Why do right-wingers have such a mental block about properly referring to the other party?

    Is this “Democrat Party” thing really a mental block? Or is it just a childish attempt at a dig?

    I’d really like to know.


  522. ralph the wonder llama says:

    frenterprz Says:
    alpuz, the only reason Nobama won, is because people were sick of Bush.

    62 million people thought Bush was on the ballot?

    That certainly explains the popularity of lite beer.


  523. frenterprz says:

    alpuz, use your imagination. That is if you have one.


  524. jay says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Apostle4God:

    Why do you show up for the first time and decide to post on a three day old troll infested thread?

    Trajan why are you still here? You shouldn’t keep calling yourself a troll either.


  525. EugeneDebs says:

    oliverclotheshoffe Says:

    THAT was an astonishingly stupid post. Do you want a cookie MORON?


  526. frenterprz says:

    Hey wonder llama, looks like you spew crap from your mouth, just like llamas do.


  527. EugeneDebs says:

    newdeal Says:

    Why Do Democrats hate America?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    They dont the REAL question, by which I mean one that makes sense as opposed to being a brainwashed morons talking point, is WHY are Republicans such morons?


  528. jay says:

    No more Stupid than Trajan’s post. Who are you the judgement police? Get lost.


  529. ralph the wonder llama says:

    That’s awfully clever, frenterprz.

    Is that the sum total of what you have to offer?


  530. sarai216 says:

    @ breadline, #541 post. You obviously do not know Rush’s bio. His daddy wasn’t rich. Rush failed at more businesses than succeeded. He paid his “dues”. But he didn’t let failure knock him down. He studied very very hard and learned from his failure. He hailed from a small town near the Mississippi River in Missouri. He is not a born with a silver spoon in his mouth rich kid, nor did he marry money, either. That would be the Kennedy’s and Kerry and the like.
    Rush is a conservative guy with a good memory. He has made it big now and has proven that really hard work pays off. If you are jealous, too bad. If you disagree with what he says, then debate the issues. You simply show your ignornce to malign him. Only losers name-call and prove they have already lost when they can not argue the issues at hand.


  531. frenterprz says:

    Yeah EugeneDebs, like you kool aid drinkers have a lock on the truth.


  532. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    alpuz, the only reason Nobama won, is because people were sick of Bush. Hardly a mandate. His poll numbers are already declining. When people see what he and the other Democrapheads in congress are doing, the game will be up and he will not get another term.

    How do you know this? And even if this was true, wouldn’t that by extension, mean that it was a rejection of the Conservative agenda? You know, seeing how Bush and the Republicans in congress ran on Conservative platforms.


  533. EugeneDebs says:

    sarai216 Says:

    How in the world did you get so stupid? Where on Earth could a human being exist and be such a moron? Did you think you made a single point? Is there some talking point store where you incredibly stupid people pick up your stale and ignorant talking points? Does being as ignorant and moronic as you clearly are hurt? Did someone as stupid as you have to hire a helper to remind you to breathe?


  534. ralph the wonder llama says:

    So, if Obama only beat McCain because people were sick of Bush, how does that explain the overwhelming majorities won in Congress by Democrats as well?

    Your theory seems a bit simplistic frenterputz.


  535. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    No more Stupid than Trajan’s post. Who are you the judgement police? Get lost.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Yes it was MUCH stupider. That is to be expected since you are ASTONISHINGLY stupid. Did you think YOU get to tell me what to do? I dont DO requests especially requests from ignorant inbred morons like YOU


  536. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    alpuz, use your imagination. That is if you have one.

    I’d like to hear if from you. frenterprz, can you tell me in your words what is a butt buddy?


  537. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    alpuz, use your imagination. That is if you have one.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    I could tell YOU to use your brain but you clearly DONT have one


  538. frenterprz says:

    Well llama I have a lot more than that. You kool aid drinkers are all happy that your boy won. People will see him and all the other Democrapheads in congress for what they truly are soon enough.


  539. newdeal says:

    They dont the REAL question, by which I mean one that makes sense as opposed to being a brainwashed morons talking point, is WHY are Republicans such morons?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    They Arn’t.
    Try asking a real question, you might get a real answer!


  540. newdeal says:

    Hey EugeneDebs, your personality disorder is showing again..


  541. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Yeah EugeneDebs, like you kool aid drinkers have a lock on the truth.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I didnt claim we had any lock on the truth but judging by the stupidity of you brainwashed braindead trolls we have the lock on logic and higher brain function


  542. ralph the wonder llama says:

    frenterprz Says:
    Well llama I have a lot more than that.

    Not by the looks of it so far, but go ahead and show us

    You kool aid drinkers are all happy that your boy won. People will see him and all the other Democrapheads in congress for what they truly are soon enough.

    Nope. Still nothing but mindless knee-jerk insults and scatalogical references.

    You let us know when you’re ready to bring “a lot more” to the conversation, okay?


  543. barfly says:

    They Arn’t.
    Try asking a real question, you might get a real answer!

    Are republicans irelevant? They seem to be proving it on a daily basis.


  544. frenterprz says:

    EugennDebs Go and crawl back under that rock that you appeared from. I have more brain power than the slug that you appear to be.


  545. EugeneDebs says:

    newdeal Says:

    They dont the REAL question, by which I mean one that makes sense as opposed to being a brainwashed morons talking point, is WHY are Republicans such morons?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    They Arn’t.
    Try asking a real question, you might get a real answer!
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Like the brainwashed moronic idiocy of why do Dems hate America? Please you are incredibly stupid your ignorant post got exactly the response it deserved a return serve MORON


  546. barfly says:

    What no eliminationist rhetoric? These trolls today, I tell you…


  547. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Well llama I have a lot more than that. You kool aid drinkers are all happy that your boy won. People will see him and all the other Democrapheads in congress for what they truly are soon enough.

    You keep saying things like this… how do you know this to be true? It’s a bit cryptic, frenterprz. I’d like to know how you have come to this conclusion.

    And really, what does it mean? Are you saying that like the Conservatives that have been trounced in the last two elections, people will see that the Democrats are just as bad as those Conservatives?


  548. EugeneDebs says:

    newdeal Says:

    Hey EugeneDebs, your personality disorder is showing again..
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    You got your degree in Psychiatry WHERE again? YOUR ignorance and incredibly stupidity show ALL the time


  549. jay says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    jay Says:

    No more Stupid than Trajan’s post. Who are you the judgement police? Get lost.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Yes it was MUCH stupider. That is to be expected since you are ASTONISHINGLY stupid. Did you think YOU get to tell me what to do? I dont DO requests especially requests from ignorant inbred morons like YOU

    Your post was very intellegent also. Typical Liberal.

    So far you Liberals have dodged my post #600. No you prefer to call names. Sticks and Stones you Putz. Answer the post or (Like I said) get lost.


  550. frenterprz says:

    What is it with the Troll references. Is that the best you kool aid drinkers can come up with? You have been watching Lord of the Rings too much. Oh, that would explain why you are all living in fantasyland.


  551. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    EugennDebs Go and crawl back under that rock that you appeared from. I have more brain power than the slug that you appear to be.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    HA you have LESS brainpower than a dustbunny. You are just so stupid you THINK its a lot. Go back to the docks and your day job blowing syphilitic leperous bums for pocketchange.


  552. newdeal says:

    Barfly Says:
    Are republicans irelevant? They seem to be proving it on a daily basis.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    The Republican Party hasn’t proven anything on a daily basis. But by the statement you just made, your name seems to fit the mentality you portray. Do you have a better question?


  553. barfly says:

    Where’s the Change? Show me something.

    Obama’s budget doesn’t contain the accounting tricks of the Bush years, that made the deficit appear smaller than it really was – change like that?


  554. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Hey Eugene, does this thread strike you, too, as an class exercise from a troll-creation seminar?

    Maybe Troll Central had a weekend workshop and on Sunday afternoon they give every one of the attendees a TP login name and password and assign them roles?

    We have the sadly abusive would-be bully troll (frenterputz), the earnest Christofascist troll (Apostle4God), the Rushbot dittohead (sorry216), the smart-aleck who’s in over his head (newdeal) and the Moe Howard of the group, jay.

    I’d suggest they all take the seminar over next week because they’re kind of pathetic.

    But maybe that’s why they turned ‘em loose on a three-day-old abandoned thread. Let ‘em get the feel of trolling before they actually face hostile fire. I guess they didn’t count on Trajan 75IQ patrolling the perimeter.


  555. barfly says:

    The Republican Party hasn’t proven anything on a daily basis.

    They have proven themselves to be out of step with American’s proirities.

    Next.


  556. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    And YOU are a typical conservative by which I mean a brainwashed moron. Dodge? You mean that stupid post full of lies and ignorant talking points? They dont deserve to be treated like REAL discourse. They arent. They are just YOU repeating the stupidity you were TOLD to believe and have no basis in reality. They are just insults and mischaracterizations along with a good dose of LIES. Say something REAL and I will address it.


  557. frenterprz says:

    alpuz When Nobama and the Democrapheads ruin this country, maybe we will see a viable third party that is neither Republican nor Democrapheads return this country to the greatness that it deserves.


  558. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    What is it with the Troll references. Is that the best you kool aid drinkers can come up with? You have been watching Lord of the Rings too much. Oh, that would explain why you are all living in fantasyland.

    There you go, Jay. A prime example of why republicans are proving themselves irrelevant, on a daily basis.


  559. frenterprz says:

    Hey EugeneDebs, sounds like you make a living on your knees. Your job must REALLY SUCK!


  560. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Alpuz When Nobama and the Democrapheads ruin this country, maybe we will see a viable third party that is neither Republican nor Democrapheads return this country to the greatness that it deserves.

    Oh my, Jay. He seems to think republicans are irrelevant as well.


  561. jay says:

    And really, what does it mean? Are you saying that like the Conservatives that have been trounced in the last two elections, people will see that the Democrats are just as bad as those Conservatives?

    alpuz, Democrats aren’t “just as bad” they are worse. That will be your downfall. People in this country love their freedom.

    Obama has thus far ensured at least 2 generations of survitude to pay back these spending programs.


  562. frenterprz says:

    Hey Barfly, go soak your head in the booze that you are obviously intoxicated from. Just a clue for you, you shouldn’t be killing what few brain cells you have left.


  563. StJoeScribe says:

    Someone once said that “it is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”

    The repubs have certainly removed all doubt from my mind.


  564. barfly says:

    alpuz, Democrats aren’t “just as bad” they are worse. That will be your downfall. People in this country love their freedom.

    But they don’t like being spied upon, something republicans have defended.


  565. alpuz3 says:

    Well jay, you did say that President Obama was going to “control the masses” in your post #600. Then you also threw in the raise taxes and spending spree rhetoric.

    To be honest, I really didn’t think you were being all that serious. How is President Obama going to control the masses?

    And a “massive spending plan that no one will ever recover from” is a bit on the hysterical side, but i understand you were trying to make a point.

    I think you that if you really want President Obama to succeed you should at least give him an opportunity. when I say give him an opportunity, I mean more than just a couple of months. Lord knows, the Conservative movement had ample time to get get things right, and look where we are now.


  566. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    You are an ignorant brainwashed troll. Do you need that explained to you? I know you are too stupid to understand concepts more complex than say a mudpuddle but you arent trying to have a discussion. YOu are insuting us and spewing moronic stupidity. THAT is being a troll. YOU are a troll and stupid even by troll standards. I understand that is how the screechmonkeys you tune into to do your thinking for you act but in the REAL world of discussion it is acting the fool. It isnt clever, it doesnt take intellect it is an attention getting device for the morons of the world. Radio personalities NEED attention that is how they get paid. A message board is for a discussion that is not furthered by you telling us what is wrong with us and how much contempt you have for us. So if you dont want to be called a troll stop ACTING like a troll. Got an actual point? Lets hear it. Want a flamewar? I am not going anywhere right now.


  567. Author says:

    One word in the first sentence of this drivel was all I needed to know this article was written by an uninformed, too bias to get the facts, bigot. The word hate should be directed to the writer of this diatribe and all the misinformed, ignorant so called Americans that spew their nonsense on this blog


  568. barfly says:

    Obama has thus far ensured at least 2 generations of survitude to pay back these spending programs.

    It’s always humourous to hear a republican complaining about government spending. We’ve had republican economic and fiscal policy for 8 years, and now were on the doorstep of socialism, because their policies failed so horribly.

    Take a little responsibility for your failures.


  569. barfly says:

    The word hate should be directed to the writer of this diatribe and all the misinformed, ignorant so called Americans that spew their nonsense on this blog

    But we like you!


  570. EugeneDebs says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    I dont know what happened it is an ignorant troll explosion. I assume whichever screechmonkey does their thinking for them mentioned this website on his show, if by show you mean tossing stupid lies and brainwashing instructions to the knuckeldraggers too ignorant to come in out of the rain, and they naturally came by to remind us that we should never underestimate the power of REALLY stupid people roaming around in large groups.


  571. jay says:

    There you go, Jay. A prime example of why republicans are proving themselves irrelevant, on a daily basis.

    Not my words barfly. I only answer for my words. Barfly is that a hobby or your profession?


  572. alpuz3 says:

    Author Says:

    One word in the first sentence of this drivel was all I needed to know this article was written by an uninformed, too bias to get the facts, bigot. The word hate should be directed to the writer of this diatribe and all the misinformed, ignorant so called Americans that spew their nonsense on this blog

    Could you elaborate on this, Author?


  573. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Author Says:
    One word in the first sentence of this drivel was all I needed to know this article was written by an uninformed, too bias to get the facts, bigot. The word hate should be directed to the writer of this diatribe and all the misinformed, ignorant so called Americans that spew their nonsense on this blog

    Well, that was certainly a well-reasoned, clear-eyed analysis, with level-headed commentary and respectful language.

    I’m going to pay attention to what this poster says in the future.


  574. barfly says:

    Art calls us haters, and so-called Americans in the same breath, with no proof.

    I’d say someone has issues of his own to deal with.


  575. frenterprz says:

    EugeneDebs You are the one that jumped into this with your insult guns blazing. If you can’t handle the heat, then get out of the kitchen BEE OTCH! Liberals like to dish it out, but their brains can’t handle anything that disagrees with their pathetic views.


  576. barfly says:

    Not my words barfly. I only answer for my words. Barfly is that a hobby or your profession?

    I wish. No, I’m a middle class wage-earner, who is glad to have a president in office who cares about the middle class.


  577. frenterprz says:

    yeah llama, like anybody really cares what you think.


  578. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Hey EugeneDebs, sounds like you make a living on your knees. Your job must REALLY SUCK!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Actually I make a good living at a good job. I guess you must be sensative that those syphilitic lepers only pay you in nickels for your services. I know a good chiropracter that can help you with that knee problem of yours though and he will take nickels.


  579. newdeal says:

    R-LLama-
    We have the sadly abusive would-be bully troll (frenterputz), the earnest Christofascist troll (Apostle4God), the Rushbot dittohead (sorry216), the smart-aleck who’s in over his head (newdeal) and the Moe Howard of the group, jay.

    I’d suggest they all take the seminar over next week because they’re kind of pathetic.

    But maybe that’s why they turned ‘em loose on a three-day-old abandoned thread. Let ‘em get the feel of trolling before they actually face hostile fire. I guess they didn’t count on Trajan 75IQ patrolling the perimeter.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I have spent a couple of months reading and very little was even worth posting on…and you are right, this “Think Progress” site is over my head, most of you are equivalent in mentality to the members on a site called Reunion.


  580. barfly says:

    yeah llama, like anybody really cares what you think.

    Strange fellows you seem to be in bed with, Jay.


  581. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Mollyrambo57, looks like you have been under the influence of kool aid for too long. It is not a matter of IF Nobama fails, it is just matter of when. You can go back to rocking in your chair and sucking your thumb now.

    What did you mean by “you can go back to rocking in your chair and sucking on your thumb now” frenterprz?

    Would that be jumping in with you insult guns(whatever that means) blazing?


  582. barfly says:

    and you are right, this “Think Progress” site is over my head

    A blind squirrel find his Sunday dinner!


  583. Author says:

    Hey Trajan75 IQ, Great response. Is that 75 in your name really your IQ level?


  584. EugeneDebs says:

    Author Says:

    If you dont like this site. I suggest you avail yourself of the several million other sites out there. Exist is right over there. We will try to soldier on without you. What we WONT do is dumb the discussion down the level someone as ignorant and braindead as you can understand it. Buh bye.


  585. jay says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    I dont know what happened it is an ignorant troll explosion. I assume whichever screechmonkey does their thinking for them mentioned this website on his show, if by show you mean tossing stupid lies and brainwashing instructions to the knuckeldraggers too ignorant to come in out of the rain, and they naturally came by to remind us that we should never underestimate the power of REALLY stupid people roaming around in large groups.

    What would you Liberals do without us, sit around and stroke each other all night? A great big Liberal circle jerk. That’s what your all use to doing here right???? “Think Progress” you bunch of closed minded Republican hating Bigots. I’m having a ball. Ha Ha Ha Ha. You still haven’t answered my post #600. Too tough for you enlighted ones?


  586. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    yeah llama, like anybody really cares what you think.

    I care what ralph thinks, frenterprz. I also care about what you say. Why the harsh tone? I thought you said the Democratic Party were the “haters.”


  587. ralph the wonder llama says:

    newdeal Says:

    I have spent a couple of months reading and very little was even worth posting on…and you are right, this “Think Progress” site is over my head, most of you are equivalent in mentality to the members on a site called Reunion.

    Does it matter to you whether your comments make sense to others?

    Just wondering.


  588. frenterprz says:

    EugeneDebs Your insults are hard to swallow. Oh wait, that is your job. I have a very good job working for a company that defends your right to spew your garbage on websites like this.


  589. barfly says:

    You still haven’t answered my post #600. Too tough for you enlighted ones?

    Already answered it. You’re a little slow on the uptake.


  590. alpuz3 says:

    jay Says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    I dont know what happened it is an ignorant troll explosion. I assume whichever screechmonkey does their thinking for them mentioned this website on his show, if by show you mean tossing stupid lies and brainwashing instructions to the knuckeldraggers too ignorant to come in out of the rain, and they naturally came by to remind us that we should never underestimate the power of REALLY stupid people roaming around in large groups.

    What would you Liberals do without us, sit around and stroke each other all night? A great big Liberal circle jerk. That’s what your all use to doing here right???? “Think Progress” you bunch of closed minded Republican hating Bigots. I’m having a ball. Ha Ha Ha Ha. You still haven’t answered my post #600. Too tough for you enlighted ones?

    Well to be fair, jay. I attempted to. Maybe you missed it?


  591. barfly says:

    EugeneDebs Your insults are hard to swallow. Oh wait, that is your job. I have a very good job working for a company that defends your right to spew your garbage on websites like this.

    And how that working out for you? Are the toilets hard to clean?


  592. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    EugeneDebs Your insults are hard to swallow. Oh wait, that is your job. I have a very good job working for a company that defends your right to spew your garbage on websites like this.

    Could you elaborate on this, frenterprz?


  593. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    EugeneDebs You are the one that jumped into this with your insult guns blazing. If you can’t handle the heat, then get out of the kitchen BEE OTCH! Liberals like to dish it out, but their brains can’t handle anything that disagrees with their pathetic views.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    My GOD you are ignorant. I RETURNED serve to what I read from YOUR ignorant posts moron. I am not complaining I am just mopping the floor with you. Something I guess you are just too stupid to even recognize. You are stupid. ITs that simple and it isnt my fault. I dont have a problem that others disagree with me but if they are going to just insult us and attack us then I will return serve. I do just LOVE the snivelling from YOU though, the WWWWWWAAAAHHHHHHHH why cant you libs just TAKE my insults without returning them WWWWWAAAAHHHHHHHH didnt God give us conservatives the exclusive franchise on personal attacks to make up for how incredibly STUPID we are WWWWWWAAAHHHHHHHHH. Please, you are embarassing yourself. A six year old girl scout would die of humiliation from snivelling so much.


  594. frenterprz says:

    alpuz do I have to explain everything? I thought you were part of the liberal elite and could figure things out on your own. It would be embarrassing to have a troll explain things for you. Do you REALLY want me to do that?


  595. barfly says:

    Well to be fair, jay. I attempted to. Maybe you missed it?

    And mine as well. Cognitive disfunction?


  596. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    yeah llama, like anybody really cares what you think.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    People with adequate IQs do. Whereas no one with two functional braincells to rub togther could POSSIBLY care less what YOU think


  597. jay says:

    barfly Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Not my words barfly. I only answer for my words. Barfly is that a hobby or your profession?

    I wish. No, I’m a middle class wage-earner, who is glad to have a president in office who cares about the middle class.

    What has he done for you so far? Simple question. All the joking aside.


  598. alpuz3 says:

    Author Says:

    Hey Trajan75 IQ, Great response. Is that 75 in your name really your IQ level?

    Hello Author, could you take some time to elaborate on your first post? This one:

    Author Says:

    One word in the first sentence of this drivel was all I needed to know this article was written by an uninformed, too bias to get the facts, bigot. The word hate should be directed to the writer of this diatribe and all the misinformed, ignorant so called Americans that spew their nonsense on this blog

    Thanks. ;)


  599. barfly says:

    It would be embarrassing to have a troll explain things for you. Do you REALLY want me to do that?

    Perhaps you can tell us when the Iraq war will be paying for itself?

    Thanks, in advance.


  600. ralph the wonder llama says:

    jay, your post at #600 was answered at least twice by my count.

    If you pretend not to see them, they still count. All that happens is that you lose credibility.

    Yes, there are some “closed-minded Republican hating Bigots” here. There are also a few “closed minded Democrat hating Bigots” too. I could identify several on this thread right now. One might even say you fit that description, jay.

    But not every liberal or progressive here is a “closed minded Republican hating Bigot”. Several of us try to engage honest, well-intentioned conservatives in decent dialogue.

    The problem with that is, very few folks that fit that description show up here. So we make do with what we got. Trolls, we got a lot of. So we whack ‘em. Because TP allows some measure of abusive language, more than many blogs, and because TP allows opposing comments to remain, unlike many right-wing blogs, the level of conflict is higher, and you guys get to feel good about yourselves because TP is so rowdy and “hateful”.

    Yet most of the time, the hatred on the threads is imported from the Right.


  601. barfly says:

    What has he done for you so far? Simple question. All the joking aside.

    I already posted it. Do your own homework.


  602. frenterprz says:

    barfly You are just so irrelevant. Go back to your booze and worship the porcelain alter as I’m sure you do on a daily basis.


  603. Author says:

    Right Deb, you wouldn’t want to avail yourself to any dissent that might actually force you to think before you respond. If you people and the writer of this trash would do a little research before spewing all this hate, you might be able to sound half intelligent.


  604. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    alpuz do I have to explain everything? I thought you were part of the liberal elite and could figure things out on your own. It would be embarrassing to have a troll explain things for you. Do you REALLY want me to do that?

    Well then it appears you’ve assumed something once again.
    Please do, please explain it for me. You don’t need to worry about me, I have my ego in check.

    Go ahead now…


  605. newdeal says:

    Wonder llama…
    Just wondering.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    You seem to do that a lot…


  606. barfly says:

    I don’t hate republicans – I hate what they have done to the country they claim to love so much.


  607. barfly says:

    You seem to do that a lot…

    Such blindingly brilliant reparte’!


  608. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    What would we do without you? Have an intelligent discussion something you couldnt POSSIBLY help us do. Hopefully an actual RATIONAL conservative would come along and thoughtfully outline his disagreements instead of giving us a rerun of the Rush the Oxymoron show insult us and talk in the language of STUPID, in other words act like YOU. As for 600 it was ignorant talking points. There wasnt a single point there to address. Lies and insults are not worthy of being treated as if they were rational discourse. This isnt the special olympics where you get a trophy for trying. SAY something real I will address it saying Obama has already spent more than Bush in 8 years isnt worth addressing its just bone ignorant. Give me something besides lies and insulting mischaracterizaions if you REALLY want to discuss something


  609. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    barfly You are just so irrelevant. Go back to your booze and worship the porcelain alter as I’m sure you do on a daily basis.

    Irrelevant to whom? Irrelevant to what? A little context would help us readers understand what it really is you’re talking about, frenterprz.

    Thanks. ;)


  610. ralph the wonder llama says:

    at 8:11, frenterprz Says:
    alpuz do I have to explain everything? I thought you were part of the liberal elite and could figure things out on your own.

    yet at 7:29, frenterprz Says:
    alpuz, use your imagination. That is if you have one.

    Which is it, frenterputz?

    Do you doubt that alpuz has an imagination, or did you think he was “part of the liberal elite and could figure things out on your own”?

    Either something alpuz wrote in between 7:29 and 8:11 convinced you that he was actually clever, or you were lying at one point in the last forty-five minutes.

    Can you tell us which?


  611. frenterprz says:

    llama You wouldn’t recognize intelligent discourse if it came up and bit you in A$$.


  612. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    barfly You are just so irrelevant. Go back to your booze and worship the porcelain alter as I’m sure you do on a daily basis.

    Why the hatin’? You really should try therapy.


  613. ralph the wonder llama says:

    newdeal Says:
    Wonder llama…
    Just wondering.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    You seem to do that a lot…

    Yes, the intellectually curious among us tend to wonder about stuff, that’s true.


  614. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    EugeneDebs Your insults are hard to swallow. Oh wait, that is your job. I have a very good job working for a company that defends your right to spew your garbage on websites like this.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    If you say so. This isnt my job. Trollstabbing is what I do for fun. I actually WORK for a living with a good union job. It is a good thing you beleive in the right to spew garbage since so far you havent done anything else.


  615. barfly says:

    llama You wouldn’t recognize intelligent discourse if it came up and bit you in A$$.

    Reducto ad High-schoolium…


  616. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Author Says:
    Right Deb, you wouldn’t want to avail yourself to any dissent that might actually force you to think before you respond. If you people and the writer of this trash would do a little research before spewing all this hate, you might be able to sound half intelligent.

    No hate in there…

    Good thing. Author would look pretty foolish if he accused us of hate, but in a hateful manner.


  617. frenterprz says:

    llama nothing alpuz or you have written could convince me that either of you is clever.


  618. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    llama You wouldn’t recognize intelligent discourse if it came up and bit you in A$$.

    Wow… now that wasn’t necessary, frenterprz. Is this what you mean when you talk about an “insult gun” blazing?


  619. ralph the wonder llama says:

    frenterprz Says:
    llama You wouldn’t recognize intelligent discourse if it came up and bit you in A$$.

    Well, as long as you’re around, we’ll never know, will we?


  620. newdeal says:

    Ralph-llama says..
    Yet most of the time, the hatred on the threads is imported from the Right.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Again,
    In 90% of the posts, libs are either stroking each other or spewing vile comments at others.
    “Several of us try to engage honest, well-intentioned conservatives in decent dialogue.”
    Where are those in-depth honest conversations located in TP?


  621. jay says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Ralph says:
    But maybe that’s why they turned ‘em loose on a three-day-old abandoned thread. Let ‘em get the feel of trolling before they actually face hostile fire. I guess they didn’t count on Trajan 75IQ patrolling the perimeter.

    I take no credit, I was merely following orders.

    Well I for one was trolling for some liberals. This is the place. I knew the word would get out and “POOF” here you all are. Trajan you keep saying that this is a three day old thread and why are we here? WEEELLLL why are you here?
    Not to discuss the topic.

    I know why I’m here. Someone here sent out the word and you all appeared. That’s the game isn’t it?

    I’m a Conservative invading the Liberal bastion of irrelevant thought called “Think Progress” which is anything but what you all do here. Ha Ha Ha Ha.


  622. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    llama nothing alpuz or you have written could convince me that either of you is clever.

    So by the process of elimination, that must mean he thinks I’m the only clever liberal poster.

    Sorry, guys…


  623. Author says:

    alpuz3
    The first sentence in this article uses the word hate, and it’s directed at talk radio host Rush Limbaugh. By using that word without investigating what was really said, he has discredited himself and shown this article to be no more than a bias peace of trash.


  624. ralph the wonder llama says:

    frenterprz Says:
    llama nothing alpuz or you have written could convince me that either of you is clever.

    Then you must have been lying when you said:

    alpuz do I have to explain everything? I thought you were part of the liberal elite and could figure things out on your own.

    and refused to explain what alpuz asked you to clarify.

    Either that, or you didn’t want to explain for some reason…


  625. EugeneDebs says:

    Author Says:

    Assume much moron? I own more than a hundred political books. I subscribe to three political magazines. I most likely do more research each month than you will do the rest of your life and listening to Rush isnt research. I LIKE dissenting opinions and decent discourse. Reading idiots come by to ask why Dems hate America and attacking the site because it doesnt conform to your lofty standards dont really rise to the level of rational discourse.


  626. frenterprz says:

    EugeneDeb You work for a union. Well that explains everything! Do you patrol web sites as a union hack? Is that all you are capable of? Sounds like you need a union to protect you from the REAL world.


  627. barfly says:

    So, you’re offended by “Hate Radio?” He called Chelsea Clinton the White House Dog. Was that a term of endearment?


  628. alpuz3 says:

    jay says:

    I’m a Conservative invading the Liberal bastion of irrelevant thought called “Think Progress” which is anything but what you all do here. Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    ah, now I see. Just another Conservative invader. Well thanks, jay. You’ve certainly showed us what it’s like to be “invaded” by conservatives.

    Say, you aren’t wearing a Darth Vader helmet and talking in a Rick Moranis voice are you?

    That would really put your show over the top. Please, do say it’s so, jay.

    thanks. ;)


  629. ralph the wonder llama says:

    newdeal Says:
    Ralph-llama says..
    Yet most of the time, the hatred on the threads is imported from the Right.

    Again,
    In 90% of the posts, libs are either stroking each other or spewing vile comments at others.

    The way you’ve phrased this is meaningless in the context of the point you seem to want to make. Even if your estimate is accurate (a highly suspect conclusion), the ratio of stroking to vile comment-spewing is undetermined. Thus it could be 95% stroking to 5% vile comment-spewing.

    Also you seem to lump all posts together, when a fair percentage of them are from right-wingers like yourself. Thus a certain percentage of the hatred obviously comes from you.

    “Several of us try to engage honest, well-intentioned conservatives in decent dialogue.”
    Where are those in-depth honest conversations located in TP?

    As I said, these are rare, because so few reasonable conservatives come here. But they do happen.


  630. barfly says:

    Is that all you are capable of? Sounds like you need a union to protect you from the REAL world.

    Says the child of priviledge.


  631. mydnytmover says:

    WOW Look at all the hate here, wait till you see whats coming for ya, Satans smiling


  632. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Author Says:
    alpuz3
    The first sentence in this article uses the word hate, and it’s directed at talk radio host Rush Limbaugh. By using that word without investigating what was really said, he has discredited himself and shown this article to be no more than a bias peace of trash.

    To you.

    Others see it differently.


  633. frenterprz says:

    barfly, do you clean the alters after you hurl? I don’t need a union to provide a kliving for myself.


  634. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    So you say you find my insults hard to swallow. I guess that is as opposed to the members of the syphlitic lepers you blow for pocketchange. That would be why you just hate it that actual working people get to make a good living while contributing to society while dragging ignorant parasites like YOU along for the ride. Jealous I guess that while you deman yourself and then parade just how stupid and pathetic you are to blow off steam as opposed to what you usually blow, I can actually make good money, get five weeks paid vacation a year, and have both job security and great benifits. Turn green with envy troll the color fits you anyway


  635. barfly says:

    And frenterprz, conservative hate radio is something that’s been around for decades, so the identifier is correct, even though he doesn’t evidence hate with this particular statement.


  636. alpuz3 says:

    Okay, Author. I see where you’re coming from…

    Now what about this?

    written by an uninformed, too bias to get the facts, bigot. The word hate should be directed to the writer of this diatribe and all the misinformed, ignorant so called Americans that spew their nonsense on this blog

    Could you elaborate on that?


  637. newdeal says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:
    Yes, the intellectually curious among us tend to wonder about stuff, that’s true.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    newdeal Says:
    Wonder llama…

    So do procrastinators. Yet what you find as “intellectually curious” is absured to someone with intelligence


  638. barfly says:

    mydnytmover Says:

    WOW Look at all the hate here, wait till you see whats coming for ya, Satans smiling

    And that’s how you tell the conservatives are running on empty: they are recyling slurs from 5 years ago. The country has moved on since then, even if you lot haven’t.


  639. EugeneDebs says:

    mydnytmover Says:

    I guess you think we ought to just TAKE the abuse and ask for more. Conservatives always seem to think that way. Satan shouldnt be smiling right now. Republicans have lost power.


  640. alpuz3 says:

    Yet what you find as “intellectually curious” is absured to someone with intelligence

    Could you provide some examples of who this may be?

    “someone with intelligence”

    I’d like to understand exactly what/who you consider someone with intelligence to be.


  641. frenterprz says:

    EugeneDebs I don’t need a union to support me. I get six weeks of vacation a year and I don’t have to pay union dues. HA HA. By the way, are your kneepads paid for by the union?


  642. staidmidwesterner says:

    Am saddened, and not just by what I see here today. I’ve only been around for 54 years, so am not wise nor all-knowing. But what I have seen in the past 15-20 years in my country is saddening me. This polarity, this “I know better than you and am willing to call you anything or do anything to prove you wrong”…is this helping us at all? The “shouting” in capitals, the name-calling, the insults–what does any of that achieve except getting you more angry and more polarized?
    We are in big trouble. The past several administrations and Congresses have talked their heads off while doling out pork and underseeing the financial markets–I voted for the man, but I also remember President Reagan overseeing the largest (up to his time) deficit the US had ever faced. Surplus under Clinton, perhaps, but at what cost? NAFTA? And the most recent Bush…effective only in spurts, and too vulnerable because of his VP and what he came from.
    I have doubts regarding Obama, but he is my President and in a critical time like this I have to pray he will succeed. If I don’t, then I am part of what brings my beloved country down.
    So, shall we quit paying attention to bad children such as Limbaugh–who is facile and dramatic but lives only to bark? He is a drug addict who has rationalized his stinking thinking and gets people all riled up just for the fun of it! Sounds a lot like a facile sociopath, doesn’t he?
    And how about we quit ripping each other down and get to work? Just as in any other family, we might argue with one another, but when a crisis comes, we ain’t gonna make it unless we roll up our sleeves and work side by side.


  643. jay says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————-

    What would we do without you? Have an intelligent discussion something you couldnt POSSIBLY help us do. Hopefully an actual RATIONAL conservative would come along and thoughtfully outline his disagreements instead of giving us a rerun of the Rush the Oxymoron show insult us and talk in the language of STUPID, in other words act like YOU. As for 600 it was ignorant talking points. There wasnt a single point there to address. Lies and insults are not worthy of being treated as if they were rational discourse. This isnt the special olympics where you get a trophy for trying. SAY something real I will address it saying Obama has already spent more than Bush in 8 years isnt worth addressing its just bone ignorant. Give me something besides lies and insulting mischaracterizaions if you REALLY want to discuss something

    It is quite vedent that you cannot read. I didn’t mention Rush anywhere. How about this. In simple english. Show me what Obama has done for you so far? Convice me that I should change my mind about all the trillions of dollars of spending he’s done. How he has failed to end the war in Iraq. Why he wants to keep troops in Iraq for the next 100 years like McCain wanted to do? Why does he want a surge in Afghanistan when he publicly stated more than once that Surges don’t work? Who will pay back the trillions of dollars he has spent? Why Gitmo still has prisoners in it?
    Tell me. Change my mind. You think your the intellegent one here. Let me have it.


  644. dbadass says:

    I’m curious…


  645. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Of course you dont need a union. Why would anyone want to make a great living, be treated with respect like the professional they are. After all for morons like YOU it isnt about taking care of your family its about you getting your nickles from syphilitic lepers while denigrating those who actually contribute and DO take good care of their families. I know its not as much fun as demeaning yourself and selling your family down the river to carry water for wealth and power like the brainwashed cretin you are but we DO get the good life and satisfaction of actually CONTRIBUTING. My GOD you are ignorant.


  646. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    barfly, do you clean the alters after you hurl? I don’t need a union to provide a kliving for myself.

    Trust fund babies talking like captains of industry always crack me up. Please continue.


  647. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    EugeneDebs I don’t need a union to support me. I get six weeks of vacation a year and I don’t have to pay union dues. HA HA. By the way, are your kneepads paid for by the union?

    I’m 6′6″, drive a sweet ride, Salma Hayek frequently booty calls, and I’m known around town as the “Handsome Man who’s great in the sack.”

    See how easy that is, frenterprz.


  648. EugeneDebs says:

    newdeal Says:

    So do procrastinators. Yet what you find as “intellectually curious” is absured to someone with intelligence
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    How would you know. You dont have any intelligence. You wouldnt even KNOW intelligence if it jumped up and bit your nutsack


  649. frenterprz says:

    Eugenedebs answer my question, are your kneepads paid for by the union?


  650. frenterprz says:

    alpuz OK, come on back to reality now. You don’t want to stray too far from the light.


  651. ralph the wonder llama says:

    jay Says:

    Well I for one was trolling for some liberals. This is the place. I knew the word would get out and “POOF” here you all are. Trajan you keep saying that this is a three day old thread and why are we here? WEEELLLL why are you here?
    Not to discuss the topic.

    I know why I’m here. Someone here sent out the word and you all appeared. That’s the game isn’t it?

    I’m a Conservative invading the Liberal bastion of irrelevant thought called “Think Progress” which is anything but what you all do here. Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    That’s fine.

    Of course, you lose the ability to complain about people here not being able to discuss things like adults, since you admit that it’s not “the game”. It’s not what you’re here for, so live with it.


  652. barfly says:

    Show me what Obama has done for you so far?

    I have never met a republican yet who didn’t try to move the goalposts when losing a debate. You originally asked for change, and now you want a list of things he’s done for US.

    If you can’t see how intellectually corrupt this tack is, that’s your problem.


  653. newdeal says:

    Ralph-llama Says:
    Also you seem to lump all posts together, when a fair percentage of them are from right-wingers like yourself. Thus a certain percentage of the hatred obviously comes from you.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I have read this whole topic/post and there are well over 700 replies in here. You being the “curious” person that you are, tell me exactly what part of this whole topic has engaged in challenging pros and cons related to the topic, and what percentage of the replies has spent time attacking anyone coming aboard, or a “conservative looking for an honest discussion?
    As far as the way I phrased my answer, you knew exactly what I was saying.


  654. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Eugenedebs answer my question, are your kneepads paid for by the union?

    frenterprz, in your own words, what’s a butt buddy? You called someone upthread a “butt buddy” and I ‘d like to know what you meant.

    frenterprz?


  655. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Eugenedebs answer my question, are your kneepads paid for by the union?

    And do you have to pay for a new plumbers helper, when the old one wears out?


  656. dougm says:

    Republicans at CPAC are a bunch of idiots whom could not stand to have a black democrat fix all of their screw ups. They will undoubtedly try to sabotage any chance of his policies working. It is up to the american people to stay the course and make their politicians represent them. Something that most politicians stopped doing a long time ago.


  657. Author says:

    Debs says
    I agree with you Deb. Listening to what someone says and trying to understand their meaning is not an intelligent way to respond to their comments. It’s much easier to read about what was said through your liberal propaganda magazines and commence to debate by what some other liberal has told you, not your own opinion based on facts.

    I’ll take your advice and log off. I think I’ll have an intelligent debate over breakfast with my cat. If that confuses you, it is morning in my part of the world.


  658. ralph the wonder llama says:

    newdeal Says:
    ralph the wonder llama Says:
    Yes, the intellectually curious among us tend to wonder about stuff, that’s true.

    newdeal Says:
    Wonder llama…

    So do procrastinators. Yet what you find as “intellectually curious” is absured to someone with intelligence

    Intriguing… how do you acquire new information? Does it magically “appear” in your brain?

    This is fascinating because, apparently we have encountered a new level of brain development in humans. Heck, even Einstein was known to “wonder” about stuff more than occasionally.

    Here we have a (presumed) human being to whom intellectual curiosity seems such an absurd concept that he treats it with outright disdain. Yet he is unable to spell “absurd” correctly.

    Fascinating.


  659. barfly says:

    and what percentage of the replies has spent time attacking anyone coming aboard, or a “conservative looking for an honest discussion?

    Throwing elbows and rhetorical dirt clods isn’t honest discussion.

    Next.


  660. newdeal says:

    Ralph-llama says:
    a fair percentage of them are from right-wingers like yourself.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    a tidbit of information for your file, I am not a “right winger” nor am a child spewing remarks that would warrant negative comments.


  661. staidmidwesterner says:

    Don’t know how it will be paid back.
    But am sure that this can’t continue.
    Don’t know how or when my friends’ kids will get to come home from wars far away.
    But am sure that this can’t continue.
    Don’t know how to regain the feeling of safety I had as a kid, even when hiding under my desk in atom bomb rehearsals–
    but I am sure that this situation cannot continue.

    The older I get, the less I know.
    But the more I am sure that this kind of stuff won’t get us there. Good night, and God bless us all.


  662. frenterprz says:

    barfly I have a very good job that I have worked at for 27 years. I’m no trust fund baby. I have had to work hard to get where I’m at. I’m pissed that what I work hard for will be taken from me in the form of higher taxes. If that money went to TRULY create jobs in alternative energy or infrastructure, it might make it a little more palatable. Instead the money is going to create bigger government and that is not a good thing.


  663. jay says:

    barfly Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    What has he done for you so far? Simple question. All the joking aside.

    I already posted it. Do your own homework.

    Lazy barfly? I thought you and I were going to have a conversation. There are hundreds of posts here. Your just like all the others. Can’t answer one simple question given you by another person.

    Hey face to face, you and me. Your chance to change a Conservatives mind about things.

    Oh well. I didn’t think so. Lets see if Eugenesdebs has the nerve.


  664. barfly says:

    I’ll take your advice and log off. I think I’ll have an intelligent debate over breakfast with my cat. If that confuses you, it is morning in my part of the world.

    Just don’t call him a hater for disagreeing with you ;)


  665. ixtoc says:

    Hey Santorum, Limbaugh,Delay…Dr.Kevorkian returned your call and he will give you a group rate provided Coulter also joins the party..


  666. ralph the wonder llama says:

    newdeal Says:

    I have read this whole topic/post and there are well over 700 replies in here. You being the “curious” person that you are, tell me exactly what part of this whole topic has engaged in challenging pros and cons related to the topic, and what percentage of the replies has spent time attacking anyone coming aboard, or a “conservative looking for an honest discussion?
    As far as the way I phrased my answer, you knew exactly what I was saying.

    Hmmm… sounds a little like you’re “wondering” about the percentages of various types of comments here, and you’re asking me to do the research for you.

    Why would someone who has no need for curiosity seek the answer to a question like this?


  667. ralph the wonder llama says:

    newdeal Says:
    Ralph-llama says:
    a fair percentage of them are from right-wingers like yourself.

    a tidbit of information for your file, I am not a “right winger” nor am a child spewing remarks that would warrant negative comments.

    Sure you’re not. It was ridiculous of me to presume so.

    You are obviously an adult spewing remarks that would warrant negative comments. I apologize if I didn’t make that clear.


  668. barfly says:

    Can’t answer one simple question given you by another person.

    For the lazy: I said that Obama changed the way the goverment figures the deficit, to include those things Bush always left out, to make the budget appear smaller than it really was.


    Hey face to face, you and me. Your chance to change a Conservatives mind about things.

    Fat chance of that happening. You don’t have it in you to consider more than one angle of any issue.


  669. jay says:

    barfly Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    and what percentage of the replies has spent time attacking anyone coming aboard, or a “conservative looking for an honest discussion?

    Throwing elbows and rhetorical dirt clods isn’t honest discussion.

    Next.

    You mean like when I first came here and you liberals attacked me. I gave back what I was getting. that’s the game you play here right?

    Your reply is a dodge barfly.


  670. barfly says:

    Hey face to face, you and me. Your chance to change a Conservatives mind about things.

    Oh well. I didn’t think so. Lets see if Eugenesdebs has the nerve.

    Time to apologize Jay…


  671. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    It is quite vedent that you cannot read. I didn’t mention Rush anywhere. How about this. In simple english. Show me what Obama has done for you so far? Convice me that I should change my mind about all the trillions of dollars of spending he’s done. How he has failed to end the war in Iraq. Why he wants to keep troops in Iraq for the next 100 years like McCain wanted to do? Why does he want a surge in Afghanistan when he publicly stated more than once that Surges don’t work? Who will pay back the trillions of dollars he has spent? Why Gitmo still has prisoners in it?
    Tell me. Change my mind. You think your the intellegent one here. Let me have it.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I dont know what vedent is. What is evident is that you are stupid and dont even KNOW how to enter a discussion but I can address your weak attempts at the talking points you THINK make sense but of course DONT.

    You may not have MENTIONED Rush but you sure regurgitated the idiotic talking points he brainwashed his Limborg hivemind with.

    What has he done so far? in the first thirty days you mean? Well he changed the debate. He made it clear we would bring people to trial and not eschew American values so cowards can feel better while cowering under their beds. He has given us a view of the direction he wants to go and what we need to get there. I am not 100% satisfied but its a good start especially after the DISASTER that was Bush.

    Ah no we wont stay there another hundred years that is plain stupid. We have a security agreement with Iraq that calls for ALL troops to be gone by 2011. I would have been happier if they all came home tomorrow but maybe leaving some there IN A NON COMBAT ROLE will keep Iraq more secure. We will see.

    Afghanistan is tough. The Generals wanted more troops. AT least unlike Bush he is listening to the generals instead of fining the ones saying what he didnt want to hear like Zinni. I would prefer a different tact there. On the other hand I am not going to agree with anyone 100 percent of the time and I will wait and see. If things go bad I will be vocal in my criticism like I always was with Clinton and Bush.

    Gitmo still has prisoners because mistakes cant be fixed overnight at least not by intelligent thoughtful people it WILL be closed that has been made clear that it wasnt done in the first ten minutes is only something for morons to complain about not people who understand, you know, REALITY.

    The trillions will be paid back by the strengthened economy. By higher tax revenue. Did you wonder who would pay back the trillions of the Bush tax cut or the Iraq war? The economy is hemoraging we need to get people back to work. This might not be the best of all worlds but we have a crisis here and we need to do something OTHER than what already hasnt worked.

    I made no claims about how smart I was only how stupid you trolls are.


  672. newdeal says:

    barfly Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    and what percentage of the replies has spent time attacking anyone coming aboard, or a “conservative looking for an honest discussion?

    Throwing elbows and rhetorical dirt clods isn’t honest discussion.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    The comment wasn’t directed to you, nor was it based on the airhead remark of “rhetorical dirt clods” but since you chose to add your 2 cents, why don’t you answer the question. If you are not capable of doing so, go on to the next person and spew your jibberish comments on them.


  673. ralph the wonder llama says:

    jay Says:
    barfly Says:

    I already posted it. Do your own homework.

    Lazy barfly? I thought you and I were going to have a conversation. There are hundreds of posts here. Your just like all the others.

    Except for the “barfly Says” at the top, you mean.

    I have no trouble sifting through many posts for a particular poster or comment. Why the trouble for you?

    Can’t answer one simple question given you by another person.

    You mean, “can’t answer twice one simple question given you by another person too lazy to look up the first”. don’t you?


  674. alpuz3 says:

    jay Says:

    You Liberal idiots think your the anointed ones but all of your hateful posts here show two things.
    1) Your all full of hate.

    2) Your all scared.

    We Conservatives aren’t going anywhere. The country will need us to repair the damage you Liberal morons are causing.

    Deal with it.

    Is this your first post, jay? Who’s doing the attacking?
    Yours was a “Conservative invasion” by your own words.

    …now about that helmet, and Rick Moranis voice. Well?


  675. jay says:

    barfly Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Can’t answer one simple question given you by another person.

    For the lazy: I said that Obama changed the way the goverment figures the deficit, to include those things Bush always left out, to make the budget appear smaller than it really was.

    Hey face to face, you and me. Your chance to change a Conservatives mind about things.

    Fat chance of that happening. You don’t have it in you to consider more than one angle of any issue.

    How has that helped anyone in this country? How has it helped you?

    Your not talking to me your talking at me.


  676. barfly says:

    You mean like when I first came here and you liberals attacked me. I gave back what I was getting. that’s the game you play here right?

    Your very first post:

    You Liberal idiots think your the anointed ones but all of your hateful posts here show two things.
    1) Your all full of hate.

    2) Your all scared.

    We Conservatives aren’t going anywhere. The country will need us to repair the damage you Liberal morons are causing.

    You came in swinging. Don’t try to lie.


  677. barfly says:

    The comment wasn’t directed to you, nor was it based on the airhead remark of “rhetorical dirt clods” but since you chose to add your 2 cents, why don’t you answer the question.

    Read his first post. Now pull your pants up.


  678. joe cantwell says:

    jay Says:
    barfly Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    and what percentage of the replies has spent time attacking anyone coming aboard, or a “conservative looking for an honest discussion?

    Throwing elbows and rhetorical dirt clods isn’t honest discussion.

    Next.

    You mean like when I first came here and you liberals attacked me. I gave back what I was getting. that’s the game you play here right?

    Your reply is a dodge barfly.

    *

    message from the architect -

    *

    The Architect Says:

    Stay away from discredited far left blogs!

    *

    word.

    ***


  679. EugeneDebs says:

    Author Says:

    WOW you really are stupid. See when you read things it isnt that hard to tell what is FACT and what is opinion. I know this concept is WAY too advanced for someone as clearly stupid as you. No I can see for YOU the way to research something is for you to tune into Rush the Oxymoron and let him tell you what to think. My GOD do you have an idea how stupid you are how stupid you make yourself look and how much you are embarassing yourself?


  680. barfly says:

    Your not talking to me your talking at me.

    You should put wheels on those goalposts. Make it much easier to move them about. I answered your question. Try again


  681. jay says:

    Barfly

    That’s not my first post here. It was influenced buy the liberal attacks here on me not my message.


  682. barfly says:

    Barfly

    That’s not my first post here. It was influenced buy the liberal attacks here on me not my message.

    That was your first post on this thread. I’ve never heard of you before, so stop trying to deflect.


  683. wisfarmer says:

    I believe all of you who are bashing the republican conservative party had better wake up. Conservatives alike believe that Obama’s policies of spending and bigger government are going to be the death of this country. Note to all you liberal bloggers who can only spew hatred and disgusting comments…I want Obama to be a good president but at the same time, I do not want his policies to succeed as they are now….his agriculture policies will be the death of all farmers that own family farms….I, however believe that there should be better oversight on how farm subsidies are paid out…but to my main point. I feel no ill will towards Obama, I refuse to call him names, I refuse to make remarks that you so cowardly do towards the former president. It seems that you have no conscience in how you portray yourselves…and that portrayal is of very ignorant human-beings who allow their emotions overtake rationale. When you can sit down at a table, engage someone thoughtfully, without spewing hate, or calling someone names…then you have a right to discussion, but until you can do that, those of you who continue to spew this hate against a former president, and not accept some of the blame as to why the country is the way it is today, then be quiet, because your arguments lack normal, logical, thinking rationale. I do not like Obama’a program, but I believe there are better alternatives….but I do not scream and stomp and call obama names and call him a liar, or a cheat or anything else. I just continue to stand up for what I believe and will continue to do so and educate those who want to listen.


  684. frenterprz says:

    The vultures are circling…


  685. alpuz3 says:

    jay Says:

    Barfly

    That’s not my first post here. It was influenced buy the liberal attacks here on me not my message.

    Well then, what was you first post?

    Did you not mean this then?

    You Liberal idiots think your the anointed ones but all of your hateful posts here show two things.
    1) Your all full of hate.

    2) Your all scared.

    We Conservatives aren’t going anywhere. The country will need us to repair the damage you Liberal morons are causing.

    Deal with it.

    Who should “deal with” what?


  686. jay says:

    Barfly.

    You didn’t answer anything I posted to you except that Obama changed the way they do accounting in Washington. Well that helps the Nation out.

    Your lazy and avoiding the discussion. Goal posts. Geeze. What a dodge.


  687. barfly says:

    Conservatives alike believe that Obama’s policies of spending and bigger government are going to be the death of this country.

    They didn’t even peep when Bush added 2 trillion to the debt. That ship has sailed.


  688. EugeneDebs says:

    barfly Says:

    But dont you see? God gave conservatives the exclusive franchise on personal attacks and us liberals are just supposed to take it. That is how he evened the odds for them being so stupid.


  689. frenterprz says:

    barfly, you never responded to my answer to your question. Does that mean you agree???


  690. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    The vultures are circling…

    So stuff your shredded entrails back in, before they see you’re totally defenseless.


  691. newdeal says:

    Barfly,
    The comment wasn’t directed to you, nor was it based on the airhead remark of “rhetorical dirt clods” but since you chose to add your 2 cents, why don’t you answer the question.
    Again, since you couldn’t answer the question, please refrain from directing silly comments to me.


  692. barfly says:

    jay Says:

    Barfly.

    You didn’t answer anything I posted to you except that Obama changed the way they do accounting in Washington. Well that helps the Nation out.

    You’re really not to good at this. Are you sure you want to continue?


  693. barfly says:

    Again, since you couldn’t answer the question, please refrain from directing silly comments to me.

    Then, leave.


  694. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    The vultures are circling…
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Not really but you MORONS are getting spanked. I am sure you are used to it by now.


  695. frenterprz says:

    barfly, I don’t have to worry, I’m not down at all.


  696. joe cantwell says:

    newdeal Says:
    Why Do Democrats hate America?

    *


  697. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    barfly, you never responded to my answer to your question. Does that mean you agree???

    Did your teachers in school approve of this intellectually dishonest tactic?

    Either repost, or stfu.


  698. frenterprz says:

    Eugene Debs, you can’t speak anymore till you answer the kneepad question.


  699. joe cantwell says:

    and your answer would be…?

    *


  700. staidmidwesterner says:

    wisfarmer has a point.
    who knows how many generations of farmers who had this land before him, and from whom he inherited or bought.
    but he has a point: sweeping change, polarity of any kind (well-intentioned “change” or mean-spirited losers both), rarely has a good outcome.
    IF WE DON’T work together, folks, we are going under.


  701. EugeneDebs says:

    barfly Says:

    Bush added FIVE TRILLION to the National Debt.


  702. frenterprz says:

    barfly see post 766 if you can’t answer then you’re the one that needs to STFU


  703. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    barfly, I don’t have to worry, I’m not down at all.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    You have been lying on your back having the floor mopped with your rotted corpse since shortly after you got here. You are just too stupid to know it.


  704. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    barfly, you never responded to my answer to your question. Does that mean you agree???

    frenterprz, you never responded to at least a couple of my posts. What did you mean by butt buddy?

    I really think that if you could clarify this it help me understand just what kind of an individual we are dealing with here.

    What, in your own words, is a “butt buddy” frenterprz?


  705. barfly says:

    IF WE DON’T work together, folks, we are going under.

    Tell the obstuctionists, not us.


  706. frenterprz says:

    alpuz you like guys. Nice try with the Salma Hayek comment.


  707. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    All of you Democraphead kool aid drinkers need to be rounded up and institutionallized. Obama will ruin this country and when people have had enough, you better choose the right side.

    Hey Troll does that look familiar? That was your first post on this thread. You walked right in here loaded for bear and open fire. Don’t play the victim card, it doesn’t work that way anymore.

    YOU ARE IRRELEVANT!

    Wow, that is quite the first post.
    Thanks for reminding me, Trajan75 IQ.


  708. barfly says:

    This?

    barfly I have a very good job that I have worked at for 27 years. I’m no trust fund baby. I have had to work hard to get where I’m at. I’m pissed that what I work hard for will be taken from me in the form of higher taxes. If that money went to TRULY create jobs in alternative energy or infrastructure, it might make it a little more palatable. Instead the money is going to create bigger government and that is not a good thing.

    The Second Law of internet posting, is that anonymous posters can claim anything. There is no way to check someone’s story, unless they post their real name and occupation. Are you ready to do that? If not, your story is bunk.


  709. newdeal says:

    Ralph llama says:
    Hmmm… sounds a little like you’re “wondering” about the percentages of various types of comments here, and you’re asking me to do the research for you.

    Why would someone who has no need for curiosity seek the answer to a question like this?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I wasn’t wondering about anything. I did the research, it didn’t take but a few minutes. With all the time you devote to this site, I was sure you also knew the answer.
    Your reply was as expected though, In making my point you proved what I was saying all along.
    By the way, I do for a living what you “try” so hard to do here.
    Enjoy your evening-


  710. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    alpuz you like guys. Nice try with the Salma Hayek comment.

    Sure I do, are suggesting that you don’t? … but what does “butt buddy” mean?


  711. frenterprz says:

    Trajan NO IQ I have more relevance in my A$$ than you do in entire body. Get a life!!!


  712. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    So, what’s your real name?


  713. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Eugenedebs answer my question, are your kneepads paid for by the union?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I missed this incredibly stupid bit of ignorance. My job doesnt require kneepads. You would be mistaking that for YOUR carrer. I just didnt think you could afford them since I assume the syphilitic lepers you blow for pocketchange just dont pay that well


  714. joe cantwell says:

    newdeal Says:
    Ralph llama says:
    Hmmm… sounds a little like you’re “wondering” about the percentages of various types of comments here, and you’re asking me to do the research for you.

    Why would someone who has no need for curiosity seek the answer to a question like this?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I wasn’t wondering about anything. I did the research, it didn’t take but a few minutes. With all the time you devote to this site, I was sure you also knew the answer.
    Your reply was as expected though, In making my point you proved what I was saying all along.
    By the way, I do for a living what you “try” so hard to do here.
    Enjoy your evening-

    *

    how much do you charge yourself to do it?

    ***

    enjoy your evening.

    :)


  715. barfly says:

    By the way, I do for a living what you “try” so hard to do here.
    Enjoy your evening

    Second Law.


  716. frenterprz says:

    barfly I don’t have to prove squat to you. Just like a liberal, you completely focused on the wrong thing. Sounds like you can only attack me personally and not my comment. You must agree with me if that is all you can complain about.


  717. barfly says:

    You must agree with me if that is all you can complain about.

    More republican mindset: taking as truth, things that cannot be proven.


  718. joe cantwell says:

    frenterprz Says:
    Trajan NO IQ I have more relevance in my A$$ than you do in entire body. Get a life!!!

    *

    get a life?

    80’s nostalgia.

    gotta love it.

    :0

    :)


  719. barfly says:

    Remember “we will be greeted as liberators.”

    Or perhaps “the war will pay for itself.”


  720. frenterprz says:

    Eugenedebs I don’t know what a carrer is. I have a good career that doesn’t require me to be supported by a union you slug. What’s the matter, can’t make it on your own? I think the union does supply your kneepads.


  721. newdeal says:

    barfly Says: ——————————————————————————–

    Again, since you couldn’t answer the question, please refrain from directing silly comments to me.

    Then, leave.

    LOL, now that’s an intelligent answer “coming from you” but still borders on silly. Do you know what the word “refrain” means?


  722. frenterprz says:

    barfly, you continue to avoid the content of my posting. Guess the truth hurts, doesn’t it? Drink another bottle.


  723. ralph the wonder llama says:

    newdeal Says:

    I wasn’t wondering about anything. I did the research, it didn’t take but a few minutes. With all the time you devote to this site, I was sure you also knew the answer.
    Your reply was as expected though, In making my point you proved what I was saying all along.
    By the way, I do for a living what you “try” so hard to do here.
    Enjoy your evening-

    Oh, I see… it was a test.

    What was it supposed to prove exactly?

    You really analyzed all 755 previous comments and came up with the exact percentage that “challenging pros and cons related to the topic” accounted for among that 755?

    And likewise for “attacking someone coming on board”?

    The “conservative looking for an honest discussion” percentage I’m guessing is pretty low, maybe 1% if that.

    But if you’ve done the research, why don’t you share it with us? Along with your methodology, of course — you now, what constitutes an “attack”, how to account for a newcomer whose first post insults those already here, what relates to the topic… that sort of thing.

    I’ll be interested to see the statistical breakdown. Thanks for doing this hard work.


  724. barfly says:

    Do you know what the word “refrain” means?

    You guys have been singing the conservative refrain of “Nobody Wants You, When You’re Down and Out,” since the election…


  725. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Trajan NO IQ I have more relevance in my A$$ than you do in entire body. Get a life!!!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Well then again your A$$ has a lot of relevance considering your carrer choice. That doesnt say much for the pathetic loser way you spend your time. I gues its a life if its enough for you.


  726. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz, you continue to avoid the content of my posting. Guess the truth hurts, doesn’t it? Drink from another bottle.


  727. jay says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I dont know what vedent is. It was a typo. You never make typos do you?

    What is evident is that you are stupid and dont even KNOW how to enter a discussion but I can address your weak attempts at the talking points you THINK make sense but of course DONT.

    This is how a Liberal has a conversation.

    You may not have MENTIONED Rush but you sure regurgitated the idiotic talking points he brainwashed his Limborg hivemind with.

    You fixated on this Rush guy aren’t you?

    What has he done so far? in the first thirty days you mean? Well he changed the debate. He made it clear we would bring people to trial and not eschew American values so cowards can feel better while cowering under their beds.

    Ok. I don’t know what cowards your talking about but if you see them I’m sure they exist. So far no trials. Do you mean terrorist at Gitmo?

    He has given us a view of the direction he wants to go and what we need to get there. I am not 100% satisfied but its a good start especially after the DISASTER that was Bush.

    What direction is that?

    Ah no we wont stay there another hundred years that is plain stupid. We have a security agreement with Iraq that calls for ALL troops to be gone by 2011. I would have been happier if they all came home tomorrow but maybe leaving some there IN A NON COMBAT ROLE will keep Iraq more secure. We will see.

    It’s the same plan that McCain proposed. How did you feel about McCains plan?

    Afghanistan is tough. The Generals wanted more troops. AT least unlike Bush he is listening to the generals instead of fining the ones saying what he didnt want to hear like Zinni.
    That’s fine but Bush is history. He’s at home in Texas drinking Ice tea. We are talking about Obama who said that Surges don’t work.

    I would prefer a different tact there. On the other hand I am not going to agree with anyone 100 percent of the time and I will wait and see. If things go bad I will be vocal in my criticism like I always was with Clinton and Bush.

    As I was of Bush. I doubt if you will though. It would require you to change your mind.

    Gitmo still has prisoners because mistakes cant be fixed overnight at least not by intelligent thoughtful people it WILL be closed that has been made clear that it wasnt done in the first ten minutes is only something for morons to complain about not people who understand, you know, REALITY.

    Nice but it wasn’t what Obama promised when he was running for President. Being President is a little harder than one liners on the campaign trail.

    The trillions will be paid back by the strengthened economy. By higher tax revenue. Did you wonder who would pay back the trillions of the Bush tax cut or the Iraq war?
    The Iraq war didn’t cost 1 trillion dollars in five years. You need a fact check here. A strengthened economy will never pay back his spending. It will be paid back by higher taxes on business and on the citizens of this country. YOU.

    The economy is hemoraging we need to get people back to work. This might not be the best of all worlds but we have a crisis here and we need to do something OTHER than what already hasnt worked.

    I agree with you here. I don’t see Obama’s and Pelosi’s spending doing anything for the country other than put us in more debt. We will see.

    I made no claims about how smart I was only how stupid you trolls are.

    And you end with a typical stupid liberal judgement of 50% of the American people.


  728. ralph the wonder llama says:

    yo, newdeal — you don’t get to tell regulars what to do.

    In fact, the only reason you’re here is for our amusement. And you’re doing a piss-poor job at that, lemme tell you. Cripes — you can’t even provide a statistical breakdown like you said.


  729. barfly says:

    What exactly is a butt buddy, frenterprz?

    And why do you know so much about the subject?


  730. frenterprz says:

    Trajan, the notes you are taking don’t matter to anybody that is relevant. And just what makes you think I’m a republican? I’m actually an Independant looking for leadership from somebody that supports the ideals that this country was founded on. More libertarian than anything. Less government is the optimal situation for the country, not more.


  731. GunLovinLib says:

    How could anyone, democrat or republican, support someone who hopes for the failure of U.S. policy or a U.S. president? I honestly can’t believe that Rush Limbaugh would say such a thing, and that others would agree with him. That’s like saying that one hopes that the U.S. loses a war or goes bankrupt, or is destroyed by a meteor. It shows an intense hatred of this country and nobody should stand for it.


  732. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Eugenedebs I don’t know what a carrer is. I have a good career that doesn’t require me to be supported by a union you slug. What’s the matter, can’t make it on your own? I think the union does supply your kneepads.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Yeah I made a typo that is soooo bad. I keep telling you that it is YOUR career that requires knee pads. I imagine it would be hard on those knees blowing syphilitic lepers on the docks. The Union doesnt support me. My GOD you are ignorant the union IS me and those like me banding together to get the money and respect professionals like me deserve. The Union officers work for ME I dont work for THEM. I understand though. Who would want to make great money and have great benifits to take care of their family when they could carry water for power instead of workers like themselves like the brainwashed and ignorant moron you are.


  733. frenterprz says:

    barfly, you can’t ask me anymore questions till you answer mine.


  734. barfly says:

    You fixated on this Rush guy aren’t you?

    Says the guy who’s been posting on the Rush thread for hours.

    Ironic?


  735. joe cantwell says:

    frenterprz Says:
    Eugenedebs I don’t know what a carrer is. I have a good career that doesn’t require me to be supported by a union you slug. What’s the matter, can’t make it on your own? I think the union does supply your kneepads.

    *

    so you and newdeal

    are partners?

    that’s wonderful.

    *


  736. barfly says:

    I’m a republican? I’m actually an Independant looking for leadership from somebody that supports the ideals that this country was founded on. More libertarian than anything. Less government is the optimal situation for the country, not more.

    They must be glad to get so many disgruntled republicans identifying themselves as newly minted libertarians, after 8 years of being treated as conservatism’s crazy aunt.


  737. frenterprz says:

    EugeneDebs, Lokks like all that sucking you have been doing at your job has affected your brain. Dementia is treatable. You should seek help. After all, you have great benefits because you need the union to represent you slacker.


  738. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Trajan, the notes you are taking don’t matter to anybody that is relevant. And just what makes you think I’m a republican? I’m actually an Independant looking for leadership from somebody that supports the ideals that this country was founded on. More libertarian than anything. Less government is the optimal situation for the country, not more.

    Now wait a gosh darn minute, frenterprz. Who gave you the stature to declare who is relevant, and who isn’t.

    Would you be willing to break it down for us casual viewers?
    Who is relevant, and who isn’t?

    Please address the whole “butt buddy” question first if you would.

    thanks. ;)


  739. danielas says:

    I just want to see his real birth certificate. If he is a natural born person he will, if not he won’t as he has something to hide


  740. joe cantwell says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:
    Jay is starting to meltdown.

    Boy is this going to be fun to watch!

    *

    here’s a visual.

    :)


  741. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    barfly, you can’t ask me anymore questions till you answer mine.

    You’re not the TP hall monitor.

    Duck the questions that are too hard. We’ll understand.


  742. barfly says:

    danielas Says:

    I just want to see his real birth certificate. If he is a natural born person he will, if not he won’t as he has something to hide

    Rush?


  743. frenterprz says:

    barfly have you been hitting the bottle again? You completely ignore the content of post 766 by challenging who I am, rather than what I’m saying. Such a typical liberal.


  744. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    EugeneDebs, Lokks like all that sucking you have been doing at your job has affected your brain. Dementia is treatable. You should seek help. After all, you have great benefits because you need the union to represent you slacker.

    And the thinly-veiled homophobia is just par for the republican course. Are you taking notes, Jay?


  745. jay says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    barfly Says:

    Bush added FIVE TRILLION to the National Debt.

    Obama added another 3 trillion in 30 days. So Obama is a super Bush? Is that what your saying?


  746. frenterprz says:

    alpuz I alredy answered your question. If you are not going to bother to look, why should I continue to answer you?


  747. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    barfly have you been hitting the bottle again? You completely ignore the content of post 766 by challenging who I am, rather than what I’m saying. Such a typical liberal.

    Ahem!!! frenterprz? C’mon now… answer my question.


  748. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    barfly have you been hitting the bottle again? You completely ignore the content of post 766 by challenging who I am, rather than what I’m saying. Such a typical liberal.

    Boy, you’re slow. I already addressed that. You cannot prove anything you claim. Or you won’t. Which is it?


  749. joe cantwell says:

    O’Reilly to speak at fundraising event for rape victims.

    tp trolls,

    no love for billy?

    ?

    >


  750. frenterprz says:

    Trajan no IQ Then you can’t ask questions if you aren’t going to read the answers. The Troll thing is really not very creative. You need to get your flamboyant compadres to come up with somthing better.


  751. barfly says:

    Was there some intellectual content in that post I missed?

    barfly I have a very good job that I have worked at for 27 years. I’m no trust fund baby. I have had to work hard to get where I’m at. I’m pissed that what I work hard for will be taken from me in the form of higher taxes. If that money went to TRULY create jobs in alternative energy or infrastructure, it might make it a little more palatable. Instead the money is going to create bigger government and that is not a good thing.

    You say you’ve worked hard at a job for 27 years. I say you’re an unemployed crank. Prove me wrong, by posting your name and address, so I can check it out. If you won’t your whole story is bunk.


  752. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    alpuz I alredy answered your question. If you are not going to bother to look, why should I continue to answer you?

    uh… no you didn’t. You said i like guys. How does that answer my question?


  753. frenterprz says:

    barfly you are either drunk, or REALLY stupid. You never addressed the content, only if I was who I said I was. You never addressed squat.


  754. frenterprz says:

    alpuz if I have to explain it to you, then you REALLY are stupid.


  755. jay says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Jay is starting to meltdown.

    Boy is this going to be fun to watch!

    Sorry to disappoint you. I’m having a ball. You people are deep ending though. The name calling is getting worst.


  756. joe cantwell says:

    trolls don’t hit this link

    if you want to get a good night’s sleep.

    *

    remember, you were warned.

    love to j$ btw.

    ***


  757. barfly says:

    Obama added another 3 trillion in 30 days. So Obama is a super Bush? Is that what your saying?

    Only an idiot would make such a lame-brained assertion.

    He’s spending to get a recovery, for an economic downturn that was caused by a republican.


  758. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    alpuz if I have to explain it to you, then you REALLY are stupid.

    so, in your own words…


  759. newdeal says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    yo, newdeal — you don’t get to tell regulars what to do.

    In fact, the only reason you’re here is for our amusement. And you’re doing a piss-poor job at that, lemme tell you. Cripes — you can’t even provide a statistical breakdown like you said.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    “yo” “lemme”
    You’ve got to be kidding!
    As for providing statistical breakdowns, I don’t know where you read I would provide you with anything. Visions, arn’t they something, kind of like imagination…
    Your other comment:
    Hmmm… sounds a little like you’re “wondering” about the percentages of various types of comments here, and you’re asking me to do the research for you?
    Why would someone with your vaste knowledge of TP, seek the answer to a question like this?

    Oh and by the way, nice English…LOL!


  760. barfly says:

    Sorry to disappoint you. I’m having a ball. You people are deep ending though. The name calling is getting worst.

    If someone posts idiocy, it’s only fair to point that out.


  761. joe cantwell says:

    jay Says:
    Trajan75 IQ Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Jay is starting to meltdown.

    Boy is this going to be fun to watch!

    Sorry to disappoint you. I’m having a ball. You people are deep ending though. The name calling is getting worst.

    *

    i for one apologize.

    here, have a tissue,

    dry your eyes.

    friends?

    :)


  762. frenterprz says:

    Looks like you libs are past your bedtime. You are evading the questions.


  763. barfly says:

    Looks like you libs are past your bedtime. You are evading the questions.

    Says the guy who keeps avoiding explaining exactly what a butt-buddy is.


  764. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Looks like you libs are past your bedtime. You are evading the questions.

    In your own words, frenterprz. What is a butt buddy?


  765. newdeal says:

    and then God made typo’s


  766. barfly says:

    Why would someone with your vaste knowledge of TP, seek the answer to a question like this?
    Oh and by the way, nice English…LOL!

    That’s the First Law of internet posting. Anyone who criticizes another’s spelling, grammar, or diction, will inevitably make a mistake in their criticism, which highlights their own ignorance.

    Thanks, for being my teaching aid.


  767. joe cantwell says:

    newdeal Says:
    Ralph llama says:
    Hmmm… sounds a little like you’re “wondering” about the percentages of various types of comments here, and you’re asking me to do the research for you.

    Why would someone who has no need for curiosity seek the answer to a question like this?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I wasn’t wondering about anything. I did the research, it didn’t take but a few minutes. With all the time you devote to this site, I was sure you also knew the answer.
    Your reply was as expected though, In making my point you proved what I was saying all along.
    By the way, I do for a living what you “try” so hard to do here.
    Enjoy your evening-

    March 1st, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    *

    newdeal Says:
    ralph the wonder llama Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    yo, newdeal — you don’t get to tell regulars what to do.

    In fact, the only reason you’re here is for our amusement. And you’re doing a piss-poor job at that, lemme tell you. Cripes — you can’t even provide a statistical breakdown like you said.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    “yo” “lemme”
    You’ve got to be kidding!
    As for providing statistical breakdowns, I don’t know where you read I would provide you with anything. Visions, arn’t they something, kind of like imagination…
    Your other comment:
    Hmmm… sounds a little like you’re “wondering” about the percentages of various types of comments here, and you’re asking me to do the research for you?
    Why would someone with your vaste knowledge of TP, seek the answer to a question like this?
    Oh and by the way, nice English…LOL!

    March 1st, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    *

    couldn’t sleep?

    :|


  768. frenterprz says:

    Trajan NO IQ You only have to read your own venomous postings to see incredibly stupid and lazy. I don’t know what kind of soldier you think you are, but you SUCK at it!


  769. jay says:

    The name calling is getting worse. OOOPPPS that will get a comment for sure. Maybe from Debs.


  770. barfly says:

    Trajan NO IQ You only have to read your own venomous postings to see incredibly stupid and lazy. I don’t know what kind of soldier you think you are, but you SUCK at it!

    Why does frenterprz hate the troops?


  771. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Trajan NO IQ You only have to read your own venomous postings to see incredibly stupid and lazy. I don’t know what kind of soldier you think you are, but you SUCK at it!

    frenterprz Says:

    All of you Democraphead kool aid drinkers need to be rounded up and institutionallized. Obama will ruin this country and when people have had enough, you better choose the right side.

    Hey Troll does that look familiar? That was your first post on this thread. You walked right in here loaded for bear and open fire. Don’t play the victim card, it doesn’t work that way anymore.

    YOU ARE IRRELEVANT!


  772. frenterprz says:

    Trajan NO IQ Not sure what planet you are from, but I have never had my A$$ handed to me by a morally bankrupt liberal, especially the likes of you! Think Progress sounds like another George Soros funded venture. He needs to hire better hacks.


  773. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Trajan NO IQ Not sure what planet you are from, but I have never had my A$$ handed to me by a morally bankrupt liberal, especially the likes of you! Think Progress sounds like another George Soros funded venture. He needs to hire better hacks.

    Venomous!


  774. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    I dont know what vedent is. It was a typo. You never make typos do you?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Oh man do I. I didnt recognize it No one is a worse typer than I am. It wasnt meant to attack your typing. I thougth what verdant vendetta I see now evident.

    This is how a Liberal has a conversation.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    It is also how YOU have been arguing. I have seen nothing but insults and rudeness from you begining with the first post of yours I read so bite me with your hypocrisy.

    You fixated on this Rush guy aren’t you?
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Cowards like YOU that call them terrorists just so you dont have to deal with the issue since they have not been established as BEING terrorists and since even the Pentagon isnt CLAIMING they are all terrorists. Zayed bin Karouz Al Murri is scheduled to be brought to trial. What is this idiocy that if things arent done in a a month they wont be done?

    What direction is that?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Toward a functional economy. Toward the rule of law and respect for the constitution. See you just want to argue and have on interest in a discussion these style points arguments are pathetic.

    It’s the same plan that McCain proposed. How did you feel about McCains plan?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Actually it is NOT the same or wasnt before the security agreement but my problems with McCain, who is MY Senator were not his Iraq policy.

    That’s fine but Bush is history. He’s at home in Texas drinking Ice tea. We are talking about Obama who said that Surges don’t work.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    He said the Iraq surge wouldnt work and it wouldnt have if it had been the only thing we did. Instead we paid the militias to stop shooting each other and armed some of the regional fighters and got out to the way. Whatever he SAID. The Generals on the ground wanted more troops. Had he decided to stick with rhetoric instead of giving the Generals what they said they wanted I would have expected a good reason.

    I would prefer a different tact there. On the other hand I am not going to agree with anyone 100 percent of the time and I will wait and see. If things go bad I will be vocal in my criticism like I always was with Clinton and Bush.

    As I was of Bush. I doubt if you will though. It would require you to change your mind.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    So you are calling me a liar. I say YOU are a liar and you never criticised Bush. Of course I have no way of knowing that any more than YOU can read my mind and tell me I am lying. I shows what a punk you are that you decided to call me a liar. I was not a huge Obama supporter he was my third choice. I just thought they were ALL better than McCain. Beleive what you want punk.

    Nice but it wasn’t what Obama promised when he was running for President. Being President is a little harder than one liners on the campaign trail.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    That was a plainly stupid comment. Obama said he would close Gitmo and he immediatly ordered it closed the mechanics of using the government to DO the things necessary to get it done wont happen overnight but it IS in the process of being closed if you expected anything else you are dense.

    The Iraq war didn’t cost 1 trillion dollars in five years. You need a fact check here. A strengthened economy will never pay back his spending. It will be paid back by higher taxes on business and on the citizens of this country. YOU.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    That is more honest we will see. No doubt you COULD be right.

    I made no claims about how smart I was only how stupid you trolls are.

    And you end with a typical stupid liberal
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,

    That is right and I WILL continue as long as you do. YOU have been nasty and rude so just BITE me with the SNIVELLING that we are treating YOU the way YOU have been treating us.


  775. barfly says:

    a morally bankrupt liberal, especially the likes of you!

    Oh those nasty, name-calling liberals!


  776. frenterprz says:

    alpuz Not playing any kind of victim here, but you sound like you have issues, like maybe your actually a midget instead of 6′6″


  777. joe cantwell says:

    the name calling is getting worse. OOOPPPS that will get a comment for sure. maybe from jeff.

    *


  778. frenterprz says:

    you’re drinking again barfly, aren’t you?


  779. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    alpuz Not playing any kind of victim here, but you sound like you have issues, like maybe your actually a midget instead of 6?6?

    Maybe.. is being a “midget” and issue for you, frenterprz?
    What, in your own words, is a butt buddy?

    You just can’t throw these terms around without a little explanation.

    ?


  780. frenterprz says:

    Trajan NO IQ, you just can’t handle the truth. Maybe you should consider a REAL job. You aren’t very good at this one.


  781. jay says:

    Looks like alpuz is losing it. So has barfly. Stroking each other. Now Trajan it’s time for you to join the circle.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha.


  782. frenterprz says:

    alpuz I can do anything I want. I already explained what a buut buddy is. You can’t possibly be that stupid.


  783. alpuz3 says:

    jay Says:

    Looks like alpuz is losing it. So has barfly. Stroking each other. Now Trajan it’s time for you to join the circle.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    Is this more of your “Conservative Invasion” jay?


  784. newdeal says:

    joe cantrell says:
    couldn’t sleep?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Not past my bedtime yet..how ’bout you?


  785. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    you’re drinking again barfly, aren’t you?

    Drinking in your flop-sweat, like it was a fine Burgundy.


  786. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    alpuz I can do anything I want. I already explained what a buut buddy is. You can’t possibly be that stupid.

    No. You didn’t. You said I like guys. Well sure I do. Who doesn’t? So do you like guys? Are you a butt buddy?

    What in your own words is a butt buddy?


  787. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    EugeneDebs, Lokks like all that sucking you have been doing at your job has affected your brain. Dementia is treatable. You should seek help. After all, you have great benefits because you need the union to represent you slacker.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,

    Looks like once again you have mistaken YOUR career with mine. Talking about MY brain is great irony since yours is diseased and without a single funtional braincell. You are a moron. You are stupid beyond the ability of words to describe so let me try again. I AM the union WE are all the UNION. If you think a single worker can stand up to a corporation that only shows what a moron you are. You are so stupid you have it backwards. I have a union so that my fellow professionals and I can assure we are treated fairly. That you are so bone ignorant you cant understand this is not suprising. You dont even care about your family you only care about kissing enough butt and catering favor from power hoping to get some crumbs. Good luck with that. We decided to fight for and demand what we got and lucky parasite YOU are we pulled you along too. If you have a vacation or overtime after 40 hrs or any kind of pension plan it is ONLY because first it was a union demand. Ignornt punk you are you would attack those who GOT those benifits for you. Thanks would have been a decent response but you cant expect decency from a moron like YOU


  788. barfly says:

    jay Says:

    Looks like alpuz is losing it. So has barfly. Stroking each other

    You DO know you’re sounding like a closeted, self-hating gay, don’t you?


  789. fightextremism says:

    After reading postings on this site over the weekend, I finally came across one that wasn’t obscene, childess or vile and made sense. Congrats, Staidmidwestrner. The rest, nothing more than a pissing contest that the freaks at my middle school would be involved in. Oh, eugenedebs you write like a valley girl. sorry, you must be influencing me.


  790. frenterprz says:

    EugeneDebs Yeah, I should only feel gratitude to you and the unions that have bankrupted the auto industry. You are a slacker since you probably couldn’t get a job with out belonging to a union. You are the one that is PARASITE!


  791. jay says:

    alpuz3 Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    jay Says:

    Looks like alpuz is losing it. So has barfly. Stroking each other. Now Trajan it’s time for you to join the circle.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    Is this more of your “Conservative Invasion” jay?

    Just matching Trajan’s post. I learned it from you Liberals. It’s what you Liberals do right?


  792. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    The name calling is getting worse. OOOPPPS that will get a comment for sure. Maybe from Debs.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

    If you insist. This however doesnt meet my minimum standards for a trollstabbing return of serve. It wasnt a rude attack on us liberals. It was true not a talking point that has already been debunked a few dozen times. Yeah its getting worse. I will get worse as the trolls do. I dont back off. If the trolls want to take the argument to the gutter I will meet them there


  793. barfly says:

    fightextremism

    Go over to Red State, and see how far singing kumbaya gets you.

    Your concern seems horribly misplaced with the economic times we’re in.


  794. barfly says:

    The rest, nothing more than a pissing contest that the freaks at my middle school would be involved in.

    Sounds like a good story. I’m all ears.


  795. frenterprz says:

    Trajan NO IQ I have had enough of your self righteous BS.


  796. EugeneDebs says:

    fightextremism Says:

    You dont like it here moron get lost. Your posts have been toxic and stupid so bite me.


  797. barfly says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:

    Does anyone know what is the record for longest post?

    I think about 950.

    We could set a record, if the trolls last.


  798. aPin says:

    I find it funny that whenever someone criticized any Bush policies they were considered traitors, unpatriotic and troop haters but these morons can babble some unintelligible nonsense about Obama’s policies failing and get cheered and hailed for having the “guts to say it.”


  799. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Trajan NO IQ I have had enough of your self righteous BS.

    Take some Red Bull or something. C’mon, we could set a record tonight. Don’t leave yet.


  800. frenterprz says:

    EugeneDeb When will you get a REAL job??? Bite me, that is original. Did you get that out of one your many books and magazines? The crap that comes from you has been nothing but toxic. Don’t like it when it comes back to you?


  801. barfly says:

  802. jay says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    I will get worse as the trolls do. I dont back off. If the trolls want to take the argument to the gutter I will meet them there

    I wouldn’t want you to do that. It would require you to climb up from the sewer. No you relax. I won’t ask you to do that.


  803. barfly says:

    Don’t like it when it comes back to you?

    Butt-buddy?


  804. c3nturion says:

    The Right wants Obama to fail for one very simple reason: MONEY. During the Great Depression, people who had cash on hand were able to buy up real estate and other valuables at distress prices. Like the wealthy Right Wingers of today, they had liquidity. Then when the economy improved, the wealth of these individuals only increased, as their real estate and valuables appreciated remarkably. So when you hear the Right Wingers say “I hope Obama fails,” they do, indeed, want another Great Depression, because it suits their financial interests. The same people who are now screaming “class warfare” have always engaged in class warfare themselves. It’s time to call them out on it.


  805. barfly says:

    I wouldn’t want you to do that. It would require you to climb up from the sewer. No you relax. I won’t ask you to do that.

    Is that conservative humor? I’d always heard such a thing existed, but had no right to hope I’d ever actually see it. Anyone got a camera, for posterity?


  806. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    What a brainwashed moron you are. When companies get in trouble it must be because their workers make a decent wage. Except Japanese and German autoworkers are ALSO union. It cant be the STUPID decisions that management made. I make more money than an autoworker and my industry is just fine. My GOD you are ignorant and brainwashed. YOU are definitly the parasite. YOU take your vacation then attack those who fought and died to GET vacations as part of a workers life. You are a punk. You are stupid. You are a buttkissing parasite who would rather carry water for wealth and power than do what is best for your family. I admit it would be hard for you to start a blowing syphlitic lepers union. YOU take it a step further. Attacking those who fought the fight that brought you vacations, health care pensions. Or maybe you think workers ought to work three jobs for minimum wage seven days a week and die quietly when they get sick or get too old to work. You disgust all decent Americans everywhere. People like ME fought and died for those benifits you ENJOY them then attack those who got them for you.


  807. frenterprz says:

    Great, another class warfare rant.


  808. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Great, another class warfare rant.

    Just wait until we start distributing the class warfare sticky-bombs. You’ll never know what hit you;)


  809. frenterprz says:

    EugeneDebs You died for me??? You sure are engaged in a spirited discussion about what a slacker you are for a dead man. What a trooper! Waging battle from the grave. That is the most impressive thing you have said all day.


  810. jay says:

    Eugene Debs says:

    That is right and I WILL continue as long as you do. YOU have been nasty and rude so just BITE me with the SNIVELLING that we are treating YOU the way YOU have been treating us.

    I read your nasty reply to my post. It seems that that’s the only way you answer things here. If I remember things right, you started it. Liberals will be Liberals.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.


  811. barfly says:

    If I remember things right, you started it. Liberals will be Liberals.

    More of that conservative selective memory. You started with attacks in your first post, silly.


  812. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    EugeneDeb When will you get a REAL job??? Bite me, that is original. Did you get that out of one your many books and magazines? The crap that comes from you has been nothing but toxic.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

    I have a real job it is YOU that trolls the docks giving blowjobs for nickels. What makes you think you deserve origninality. You are boring and stupid. You regurgitate idiotic ignorance I could answer with one lobe of my brain tied behind my back.

    Don’t like it when it comes back to you?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Who says I dont like it? You dont see me complaining just slapping you around like the pathetic moron you are.


  813. alpuz3 says:

    jay Says:

    Eugene Debs says:

    That is right and I WILL continue as long as you do. YOU have been nasty and rude so just BITE me with the SNIVELLING that we are treating YOU the way YOU have been treating us.

    I read your nasty reply to my post. It seems that that’s the only way you answer things here. If I remember things right, you started it. Liberals will be Liberals.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    Started it?


  814. OutstandingInMyField says:

    Great, another class warfare rant.

    Actually,c3nturion know his (or her) history…you,not so


  815. frenterprz says:

    barfly There you go again. You should probably add some soda to the drink. It will last longer that way.


  816. OutstandingInMyField says:

  817. barfly says:

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    I can smell the flop sweat from here.


  818. EugeneDebs says:

    If I am in the sewer J it is only because that is where ignorant braindead morons like YOU took me. I can beat you in the debate halls I can beat you in the alley because you are stupid. You will always BE stupid. I will fight the fight wherever it takes me and today YOU trolls took me to the sewer. ITs ok. Unlike YOu morons I know how to take a shower.


  819. EugeneDebs says:

    If I am in the sewer J it is only because that is where ignorant braindead morons like YOU took me. I can beat you in the debate halls I can beat you in the alley because you are stupid. You will always BE stupid. I will fight the fight wherever it takes me and today YOU trolls took me to the sewer. ITs ok. Unlike YOu morons I know how to take a shower. See I WILL take a shower tomorrow and be clean. YOU will still be a moron


  820. barfly says:

    C’mon you slackers! Rush is a doody head! There, I said it.

    Now, defend your wingnut godhead.


  821. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    barfly There you go again. You should probably add some soda to the drink. It will last longer that way.

    Is being a midget a bad thing? What is a butt buddy?


  822. frenterprz says:

    Eugenedebs You slap like a girl.


  823. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Eugenedebs You slap like a girl.

    Ok, you heard him Eugene; put the rings back on.


  824. frenterprz says:

    Geez alpuz you don’t give up. Why don’t you go watch some midget porn to take the edge off.


  825. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Eugenedebs You slap like a girl.

    Could you elaborate on this comment, frenterprz? What are you suggesting by the phrase slap like a girl?


  826. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    EugeneDebs You died for me???
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    People LIKE me did. My GOD you are ignorant. You do know you are a moron right?


  827. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Geez alpuz you don’t give up. Why don’t you go watch some midget porn to take the edge off.

    Very interesting response, frenterprz.


  828. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Geez alpuz you don’t give up. Why don’t you go watch some midget porn to take the edge off.

    A homophobe, and size-ist to boot. Next will come the geriatric humor, followed by some animal-cruelty jokes.


  829. frenterprz says:

    barfly maybe eugenedebs can go watch midget porn with alpuz and he won’t be so cranky. Oh wait, eugenedebs already died so that I could have a vacation.


  830. EugeneDebs says:

    J you are a liar and a fool. The very first post of yours I saw was rude and nasty and all your posts to me have been rude. What makes you THINK I should take your rudeness without returning serve it isnt my way. YOU argue like a typical MORON. As to the demented HAHAHA thing Mini Me called and said Dr Evil wants his laugh back.


  831. fightextremism says:

    Hey, EugeneDebs, you can’t go to bed before me. I’m 11. Come on dude.


  832. frenterprz says:

    alpuz did you hit your head recently? You keep asking the same questions.

    barfly No animal cruelty jokes. Just ones about people who drink too much. Shooters!!!


  833. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    barfly maybe eugenedebs can go watch midget porn with alpuz and he won’t be so cranky. Oh wait, eugenedebs already died so that I could have a vacation.

    The reason conservative humor always fails, is because it’s based upon making fun of those who are powerless to change their conditions. True humor is self-effacing – something no self-respecting conservative could ever countenance.


  834. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Eugenedebs You slap like a girl.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    And you debate like a MORON. However I slap I have been taking YOU to school. You are just probably too stupid to even know it but most people here can read.


  835. barfly says:

    fightextremism Says:

    you can’t go to bed before me. I’m 11.

    We already guessed that, by your simplistic post.


  836. jay says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    If I am in the sewer J it is only because that is where ignorant braindead morons like YOU took me. I can beat you in the debate halls I can beat you in the alley because you are stupid. You will always BE stupid. I will fight the fight wherever it takes me and today YOU trolls took me to the sewer. ITs ok. Unlike YOu morons I know how to take a shower. See I WILL take a shower tomorrow and be clean. YOU will still be a moron

    This post came right out of the sewer. The problem is that you spend so much time there you don’t notice where you are.

    Read some of your posts here. Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    The most expensive commodity in this nation is ignorance. See how valuable you are.


  837. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz Says:

    alpuz did you hit your head recently? You keep asking the same questions.

    Maybe. You’ve never answered the question, frenterprz. Here it is again in case you’ve forgotten.

    What, in your own words is a butt buddy?


  838. frenterprz says:

    barfly NOW you’re starting the morality issue. Sounds like you need a few more shots. Also, I didn’t know humor was liberal or conservative. Maybe you can throw some liberal humor at me so I can see what the difference is.


  839. barfly says:

    barfly No animal cruelty jokes. Just ones about people who drink too much. Shooters!!!

    Then the koolade drinking conservatives must really have a good one coming. I can’t wait to hear it.


  840. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    I have a REAL wife that is unlike YOURS not made of rubber. You really ought to stop thinking YOUR perversions are our entertainment.


  841. barfly says:

    Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    Jay McFlopsweat, amateur comedian.


  842. EugeneDebs says:

    fightextremism Says:

    Well you are stupid even for 11. Go to bed whenever you want. If we need a schoolmarm to tell us how to act we will keep you in mind


  843. frenterprz says:

    Eugenedebs I guess in the mind of a dead man fighting for workers rights you have won the battle. But I have succeeded in getting you pissed off, so I consider the whole experience to be a success. Enjoy your union slacker!


  844. alpuz3 says:

    jay Says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    If I am in the sewer J it is only because that is where ignorant braindead morons like YOU took me. I can beat you in the debate halls I can beat you in the alley because you are stupid. You will always BE stupid. I will fight the fight wherever it takes me and today YOU trolls took me to the sewer. ITs ok. Unlike YOu morons I know how to take a shower. See I WILL take a shower tomorrow and be clean. YOU will still be a moron

    This post came right out of the sewer. The problem is that you spend so much time there you don’t notice where you are.

    Read some of your posts here. Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    The most expensive commodity in this nation is ignorance. See how valuable you are.

    As far as posts here, this one really set a tone:

    You Liberal idiots think your the anointed ones but all of your hateful posts here show two things.
    1) Your all full of hate.

    2) Your all scared.

    We Conservatives aren’t going anywhere. The country will need us to repair the damage you Liberal morons are causing.

    Deal with it.


  845. barfly says:

    Maybe you can throw some liberal humor at me so I can see what the difference is.

    Liberal humorist – Jon Stewart.

    Conservative humorist – Dennis Miller.

    Miller’s humor is always directed outward, while Stewart’s is always self-effacing.


  846. frenterprz says:

    barfly Don’t mistake the koolaid for the booze


  847. EugeneDebs says:

    YOU define ignorance J. Thinking we ought to just take YOUR stupid attacks and ask if we can have another is just one more example of how pathetically stupid you are.


  848. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    barfly Don’t mistake the koolaid for the booze

    I can’t. There’s a big skull and crossbones on the koolade bottle.


  849. jay says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    J you are a liar and a fool. The very first post of yours I saw was rude and nasty and all your posts to me have been rude. What makes you THINK I should take your rudeness without returning serve it isnt my way. YOU argue like a typical MORON. As to the demented HAHAHA thing Mini Me called and said Dr Evil wants his laugh back.

    Was it to you? No. Sorry your attempt to make friends has failed. You don’t have the ability to stay out of the sewer and I won’t come down to your level. Like two ships in the night.


  850. frenterprz says:

    Hey Eugenedebs Just one more thing, how do ghosts take showers?


  851. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    You are as delusional as you are stupid. Trollstabbing is just how I pass my time. I am not angry. YOU are just stupid. You do have a serious reading comprehesion problem. I dont have the patience to explain the plural thing to you so I suggest some adult education. Then again stupid as you are. It most likely wont help.


  852. barfly says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Hey Eugenedebs Just one more thing, how do ghosts take showers?

    They get the phantoms of lost liberties to scrub their backs…


  853. alpuz3 says:

    #598

    frenterprz Says:

    alpuz 52% to 48% is certainly not a mandate for change. Oh, but I forgot, you have been drinking too much kool aid. Just like your butt buddy trajan75 no IQ.

    604. alpuz3 Says:

    What’s a butt buddy, frenterprz?

    I’m starting to think frenterprz is a little bit hesitant to explain in it’s own words just what exactly a “butt buddy” is.

    Well over 300 posts and still no answer. If you wont answer the question, could you give me a good reason why you can’t answer the question, frenterprz?


  854. barfly says:

    C’mon guys almost to 1000.

    WE CAN DO IT!


  855. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    Was it to you? No. Sorry your attempt to make friends has failed. You don’t have the ability to stay out of the sewer and I won’t come down to your level. Like two ships in the night.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Make friends? Are you an infant? Who said I wanted to be your friend. You are a punk and a moron. I can do better and DO better. You STARTED that level you lying moron. Your posts were straight out of the sewer. I am not too superior to travel down to your level and make a fool out of you though in your case YOU did most of the work. As for two ships you flatter yourself. You arent a ship you are a trollturd floating in the sewer you are too stupid to recognize


  856. barfly says:

    Jay, what’s the matter? Not running out of intellectual gas already, are you?


  857. EugeneDebs says:

    frenterprz Says:

    Hey Eugenedebs Just one more thing, how do ghosts take showers?
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    WOW. I have seen stupid before. Thinking YOUR lack of reading comprehension is some kind of gotcha really puts you in the running for stupidest organic being in the Universe.


  858. barfly says:

    Just one more wingnut post, to keep the run going.

    I’m beggin’ ya’!


  859. barfly says:

    These trolls have no stamina. Where’s Exley, when you really need him?


  860. jay says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    YOU define ignorance J. Thinking we ought to just take YOUR stupid attacks and ask if we can have another is just one more example of how pathetically stupid you are.

    Hey it’s what you Liberals do here isn’t it? Hell it started long before I got here. I thought that’s how you fools played the game. Look at all the nonsense you people post here. It’s not me it’s you all. I just came here to have some fun with you fools. I had a great time. Thanks.

    I already knew what was here. It’s one of my favorite Idiot sites.

    Thanks Eugene Debs. I enjoyed it. OBTW is it Eugene Or Debs???? Ha Ha Ha Ha. You people could never get the best of me. I already knew what you’re going to say before you say it. It’s the same garbage all you Liberals are spewing all over the internet. You won the election but you’re still pissed off. At what????? Maybe you defend Obie too much. Is there something there that you don’t want to admit?

    Ha Ha Ha Ha. He’s not working out too well is he. People are seeing who he really is and it’s only been 30 something days.

    Like I said, I had a great time. Just what I was looking for. I’m not new at this “Tickle the Liberal” game. I play it all the time. You are great entertainment.


  861. barfly says:

    You won the election but you’re still pissed off.

    I’m so happy, I could kiss you, comrade. Thanks for enabling this thread to to go as high as it has. We couldn’t have done it without you.


  862. alpuz3 says:

    frenterprz,

    Jay has suggested in a previous post that Liberals are all scared.

    2) Your all scared.

    Now, in almost 400 posts you haven’t answered my one simple question. You suggested in your post that Trajan75 IQ and I were butt buddies. Here, once again:

    frenterprz Says:

    alpuz 52% to 48% is certainly not a mandate for change. Oh, but I forgot, you have been drinking too much kool aid. Just like your butt buddy trajan75 no IQ.

    So, what is a butt buddy(in your own words)? Are you scared to answer the question? Is jay wrong? Are in fact, Conservatives the ones who are scared?


  863. barfly says:

    Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    You’re going to have to work on that, though. It comes across as a nervous outburst to cover your anxiety.


  864. jay says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    jay Says:

    Was it to you? No. Sorry your attempt to make friends has failed. You don’t have the ability to stay out of the sewer and I won’t come down to your level. Like two ships in the night.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Make friends? Are you an infant? Who said I wanted to be your friend. You are a punk and a moron. I can do better and DO better. You STARTED that level you lying moron. Your posts were straight out of the sewer. I am not too superior to travel down to your level and make a fool out of you though in your case YOU did most of the work. As for two ships you flatter yourself. You arent a ship you are a trollturd floating in the sewer you are too stupid to recognize

    How sweet. Do I kiss you or shake your hand? Sorry but I don’t need any more friends. I have plenty.

    If you would like I will put you on my list. Ha Ha Ha Ha. One thing you should know, I don’t do sewers.


  865. barfly says:

    2 “Ha Ha Ha Ha’s” in the same post just looks pathetic.


  866. barfly says:

    Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    Yup, anxiety.


  867. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    So you are so ignorant and juvenile, such a snot nosed little punk you enjoy coming to a site to annoy people since you KNOW you are far too stupid to actually engage in a discussion. OK. Whatever floats your trollturd. That is pretty much the definition of being a troll. We mopped the floor with you. Your posts were stupid and YOU are a moron. Now you admit you are also a worthless punk. Good luck with that. If you think you actually accomplished anything other than proving just how stupid you are then you are as delusional as you are ignorant. It would never occure to me to go to a conservative website just to annoy people where THEY like to be. I guess when you are a pathetic punk like YOU are and know you cant PLAY the game the weasel in you makes you want to just screw with the game. What a waste of precious oxygen you are.


  868. alpuz3 says:

    jay, your contribution today is immeasurable. You have done a wonderful thing… there is no way in hell any “Liberal” could have provided the insight into the Conservative movement that you have here today.

    Sincerely, thank you, jay.


  869. barfly says:

    One thing you should know, I don’t do sewers.

    As a former republican, yes, you in fact DO sewers.


  870. jay says:

    barfly Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    You won the election but you’re still pissed off.

    I’m so happy, I could kiss you, comrade. Thanks for enabling this thread to to go as high as it has. We couldn’t have done it without you.

    Thanks barfly. I couldn’t have done it without you people.

    When people ask me what Liberals are all about I send them here.

    Oh and about the laugh. Sheer gut busting laughter.


  871. barfly says:

    Sorry but I don’t need any more friends. I have plenty.

    Says the republican trolling a liberal website.

    Sure you do, Bunky.


  872. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    Yes you do you are a liar and a fool. You BROUGHT the sewer. You STARTED at sewer level as for freinds it was you who brought it up and if you HAVE any I bet you rented them. Who could stand a moronic punk like you? OR are all your friends rubber like the girlfriend you keep in your closet? No shaking, no long walks in the moonlight just keep on being the ignorant punk you are and I will keep treating you like the ignorant punk you are.


  873. baldyross says:

    If Obama and crew had thier way we would have failed in Iraq. Now we have a flourishing democracy in the Middle east. Al Qaida was drawn into battle(remember “bring it on”?)
    Yes an Islamic country rejected Al qaida and Iranian influence. So can we really trust Obamas judgement in taking the road to socialism? Yes the housing bubble burst from Barney Frank’s Fannie Mae’s easing of financing critiera.
    Quite a ride, everyone in mansions with big screens.
    So now we pay the price of easy financing. But more barrowing will just stretch this market correction out. Just slash employment taxes only to stimulate hiring, increase food stamps so no one starves and don’t prop up the weak up, let the law of the jungle take care of the rest. Man up guys!


  874. barfly says:

    When people ask me what Liberals are all about I send them here.

    Oh and about the laugh. Sheer gut busting laughter.

    It sounded more like nervous twittering.


  875. alpuz3 says:

    jay Says:

    barfly Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    You won the election but you’re still pissed off.

    I’m so happy, I could kiss you, comrade. Thanks for enabling this thread to to go as high as it has. We couldn’t have done it without you.

    Thanks barfly. I couldn’t have done it without you people.

    When people ask me what Liberals are all about I send them here.

    Oh and about the laugh. Sheer gut busting laughter.

    Thanks again, jay.


  876. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    You provided the free clown show. That and monumental levels of stupid.


  877. barfly says:

    If Obama and crew had thier way we would have failed in Iraq. Now we have a flourishing democracy in the Middle east.

    That is controlled by a muslim religious theocracy, and that will fall apart in the coming months as the papered-over differences become more pronounced.


  878. barfly says:

    Man up guys!

    Says the anonymous poster.

    Ironic?


  879. jay says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    jay Says:

    So you are so ignorant and juvenile, such a snot nosed little punk you enjoy coming to a site to annoy people since you KNOW you are far too stupid to actually engage in a discussion. OK. Whatever floats your trollturd. That is pretty much the definition of being a troll. We mopped the floor with you. Your posts were stupid and YOU are a moron. Now you admit you are also a worthless punk. Good luck with that. If you think you actually accomplished anything other than proving just how stupid you are then you are as delusional as you are ignorant. It would never occure to me to go to a conservative website just to annoy people where THEY like to be. I guess when you are a pathetic punk like YOU are and know you cant PLAY the game the weasel in you makes you want to just screw with the game. What a waste of precious oxygen you are.

    Hey that’s all right Eugene or Debs what ever you are. I still love you. I love you all here. I would never suggest that your right to breath air be taken away or that it was waisted on you all. I’m such a mean old Conservative right?

    Kisses to you all. Luv ya. Even you Eugene. Get some help.

    You need it.


  880. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Define “flourishing”…


  881. barfly says:

    I would never suggest that your right to breath air be taken away or that it was waisted on you all.

    Good, because then I’d have to point out the silly way you spelled waste, and breathe.


  882. barfly says:

    Jane E. Schneider Says:

    Define “flourishing”…

    Another Janie comes lately ;)

    You stole my 00, Jane, and I’ve been working hard for it most of the evening. It’s just not fair!


  883. barfly says:

    Oops, I meant my 000.


  884. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    baldyross Says:

    If Obama and crew had thier way [blah blah blah... blah blah blah... blah blah blah...] let the law of the jungle take care of the rest. Man up guys!
    __________

    Heh… yer funny, but not in a good way, for you.

    Sheesh… a THOUSAND POSTS? Wha hoppened?

    Did Malkin unleash her Flying Monkey Brigade, to attack and destroy a thread that was… 2 days old? Nice shootin’, monkeys…

    It’s been a Whack-A-Troll™ Extravaganza here… and I missed it all…


  885. barfly says:

    But I do believe we have the new record for TP posts.


  886. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Ooooooo… did Jane win a door prize?


  887. EugeneDebs says:

    baldyross Says:

    Your post is pure delusion. If you republicans had YOUR way we would just keep getting as many Americans killed as possible in Iraq. They are STILL very influeneced by Iran you moron and they were NEVER going to be influenced by al Queda. You people are too stupid to be believed.


  888. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    barfly Says:

    But I do believe we have the new record for TP posts.
    ____________

    I don’t know about that… as spectacular as this is, I do remember some threads from the fall of 2007 that got up to 1200, even 1300…

    But this is by far the longest thread in a long time…


  889. Jane E. Schneider says:

    I’m not seeing the 1 in 1000, just the zeros.

    Sorry, barfly, I know you’ve been working extremely hard for the honor, and I just jumped in–my bad. Hey, maybe someone’ll get deleted and you’ll get the 000s. Any JK comments I can flag? ;)


  890. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    I was thinking of responding to baldyross. but then I realized he has no idea what he’s talking about. Nor can he write coherently. He’s all over the place, throwing out talking points that have no connection to reality. (Reality being the place where facts are true.) When he can cite a fact coherently, and build an argument for his view based on it, then he might be worth our time.


  891. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says

    You are free to love whomever you want. You do not however know what I need. Remember YOU are a moron.


  892. barfly says:

    Anyway, it’s been fun (and productive), but I was all geared for reaching 1000, and now, I think I’ll go see what’s on C&L.

    Good night, folks.


  893. Jane E. Schneider says:

    I could have sworn that there was a post a few years back that garnered several thousand comments. It was something about the Fairness Doctrine, and supposedly Drudge linked to it and a shltload of trolls came over. That was the beginning of a bunch of name-jackings for a short while.

    Hi, TRoS, did someone say ‘prize’?


  894. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Wayne that’s been the case with every troll on this thread this evening.

    Weird little troll recon mission turned into a poo-flinging Little Big Horn for the poor fellers.

    A thousand comments.

    Man-on-Dog Santorum.

    Whoda thunk it?


  895. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:

    TROS:

    Twajie aka jay was lured into an ambush and he got whacked like no troll before him.
    ______________

    Well… dang… sorry I missed the festivities.

    At least I got to help chase Secret Agent x1 up a tree earlier to day.

    Did anyone ever go check and see if he came down?


  896. EugeneDebs says:

    Well it has been a fine trollstabbing day. A good day. A red day.


  897. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Hey TRoS, I stopped by the Katrina Vanden Heuvel thread to pick ya up fer some choice troll-whackin’ but they said you had “admitted your problem” and that I was “enabling” you.

    What’s up wi’ dat?


  898. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Jane E. Schneider Says:
    I could have sworn that there was a post a few years back that garnered several thousand comments. It was something about the Fairness Doctrine, and supposedly Drudge linked to it and a shltload of trolls came over.
    _____________

    You are absolutely correct. Jane. It went on for almost 10 hours and by the time it fizzled to a halt, there something like 6,000 nasty posts on it. 600 an hour.
    _____________

    Hi, TRoS, did someone say ‘prize’?
    _____________

    Why… yes… Jane… someone did say “prize”… a “door prize” for the lucky 1000th poster. Would you like to claim your prize?


  899. jay says:

    barfly Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    I would never suggest that your right to breath air be taken away or that it was waisted on you all.

    Good, because then I’d have to point out the silly way you spelled waste, and breathe

    Thanks barfly. It’s late. Of course no one here ever makes mistakes. And no one feels that it’s more important to point them out than a Liberal who is correcting a Conservative.

    Hey, I saw Eugene make a few mistakes tonight. Maybe you should go correct her or him for them also. You don’t want to show favoritism do you.

    Be that as it may. I still luv you guys.


  900. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Hey, did everybody sign the sympathy card to jay? I wrote” we’re very very sorry we hurt your feelings. Can you ever forgive us?” and I dotted the “i” in feelings with a little smiley face.

    It’s on barfly’s desk if you still have to sign it.


  901. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Hey TRoS, I stopped by the Katrina Vanden Heuvel thread to pick ya up fer some choice troll-whackin’ but they said you had “admitted your problem” and that I was “enabling” you.

    What’s up wi’ dat?
    ____________

    Awww… you these silly “Friends don’t let friends play Whack-A-Troll™” intervention type thingies… they had me surrounded and I had ta give ‘em sumpin. All these teary-eyed liberals tellin’ me how much they were worried…

    Heh… give up troll whacking? Moi?

    They’ll hafta pry the mallet from my cold, dead fingers…

    You can ignore the “enabling” bit… I allus thought I was the bad influence on you…

    And I had to go to work thsi afternoon. Deadlines… schmeadlines…

    That’s what I git for takin’ my payin’ job seriously, huh?


  902. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    Yes I make a a lot of typing mistakes. I still think you are stupid.


  903. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:

    He is still up the tree and has wet his pants.
    _________

    Poor li’l feller… must be gittin’ kinda cold up that tree by now… and dark too.

    Somebody open the window, so’s we can listen ta his wimperin’ in the dark.


  904. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Okay, TRoS, I’ll take the bait – where do I pick up my door prize (at the door?)

    Actually, with the way my memory’s been, I think I should get a prize for remembering that record-setting post.


  905. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    jay Says:

    Be that as it may. I still luv you guys.
    _____________

    Awww…. thas sweet… brings a tear to my eye… no, really… it does.


  906. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Jane E. Schneider Says:

    Okay, TRoS, I’ll take the bait – where do I pick up my door prize (at the door?)
    __________

    Oooooooo…somebody FINALLY asked for their door prize…

    Jane… it IS a door… a DOOR prize…

    Ka-bang… ***rim shot***


  907. Jane E. Schneider says:

    I guess I’m glad that I wasn’t around for all the troll-whacking today, or I wouldn’t have gotten anything done around the house. And I certainly wouldn’t have had time to watch the Mets spank Houston this afternoon.


  908. ralph the wonder llama says:

    barfly, on the carpet there… is that troll blood? Or troll poo?

    Yeesh. What a mess.


  909. fightextremism says:

    Barfly & EugeneDebs, do you guys ( assuming ) work or screw around all day and night on these sites collecting welfare.


  910. baldyross says:

    !!!!!!!!!!Irony alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Rush accused of hoping for failure…..hum……….
    ********
    I’m sorry are there libs in here still hoping for failure in Iraq? And most libs spent 8 years hoping for Bushs’ failure.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Irony Alert over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You’re free to go back to your kool-ade now

    PS by they way,FYI, The Iraqi parties with the most obvious ties to Iran lost, they’re trying to distance them selves now. Try ignoring the tingling in your legs and put you Kool-ade down, you might be able to see what’s going on.


  911. jay says:

    The Republic of Stupidity Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Trajan75 IQ Says:

    TROS:

    Twajie aka jay was lured into an ambush and he got whacked like no troll before him.

    Well let me join in on the crtique of tonight guys. First I’m not Twajie. ???? So as far as that goes you were all fooled. Then EugeneDebs got whacked here tonight. Totally lost it. I also knew that you had to call in your like minded friends. I was trolling for Liberals tonight and caught quite a few. It really was enjoyable. I was only disapointed in my computer because it was running really slow tonight which made it hard to keep up.

    All in all it was a good night. Those who were out to whack got whacked. You were all suckered and you don’t know it.

    I still luv ya though. Maybe some day you will realize who I really am. Ha Ha Ha Ha.


  912. joe cantwell says:

    baldyross Says:
    !!!!!!!!!!Irony alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Rush accused of hoping for failure…..hum……….
    ********
    I’m sorry are there libs in here still hoping for failure in Iraq? And most libs spent 8 years hoping for Bushs’ failure.
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Irony Alert over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You’re free to go back to your kool-ade now

    PS by they way,FYI, The Iraqi parties with the most obvious ties to Iran lost, they’re trying to distance them selves now. Try ignoring the tingling in your legs and put you Kool-ade down, you might be able to see what’s going on.

    *

    do the math.

    oxycotin + viagra = baldyross.

    just like rush.

    :)

    typo.

    :|


  913. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Did I lose track of my days, or isn’t it (well, until 27 minutes ago) Sunday?


  914. joe cantwell says:

    jay Says:
    The Republic of Stupidity Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Trajan75 IQ Says:

    TROS:

    Twajie aka jay was lured into an ambush and he got whacked like no troll before him.

    Well let me join in on the crtique of tonight guys. First I’m not Twajie. ???? So as far as that goes you were all fooled. Then EugeneDebs got whacked here tonight. Totally lost it. I also knew that you had to call in your like minded friends. I was trolling for Liberals tonight and caught quite a few. It really was enjoyable. I was only disapointed in my computer because it was running really slow tonight which made it hard to keep up.

    All in all it was a good night. Those who were out to whack got whacked. You were all suckered and you don’t know it.

    I still luv ya though. Maybe some day you will realize who I really am. Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    *

    quitting?

    :)


  915. joe cantwell says:

    fightextremism Says:
    Barfly & EugeneDebs, do you guys ( assuming ) work or screw around all day and night on these sites collecting welfare.

    *

    it’s your dime, sucker.

    :)


  916. joe cantwell says:

    EugeneDebs Says:
    jay Says:

    Yes I make a a lot of typing mistakes. I still think you are stupid.

    *

    that what she said.

    :)


  917. joe cantwell says:

    jay?

    don’t forget to turn

    out the cellar light.

    :)


  918. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Look at that. Troll blood all over the place, troll snot on the drapes, and there’s still a couple of the li’l fellers swingin’ wildly over there.

    Jane, could you just kinda hover behind baldyross and make sure he doesn’t hit the lamp with his Nerf® bat?

    And I wanna know who gave these trolls energy drinks? — Oh, it’s RockStar. They musta brung it themselves. Figures.


  919. joe cantwell says:

    love, mom.

    xxoo


  920. baldyross says:

    eugenedebs? We did have it our way and the surge DID work.
    As far as Al qaida in Iraq is concerned, No they were not there before the war, We just figured it was a good place to sucker them into and destroy them and bring democracy to the middle east and show the world what pure evil(al Qaida) is!!!!!!!! This all happened with all the libs encouraging Al qaida and wishing failure for Bush. Ironic isn’t it, wishing for failure? Isn’t that what this blog is about?


  921. joe cantwell says:

    baldyross Says:
    eugenedebs? We did have it our way and the surge DID work.
    As far as Al qaida in Iraq is concerned, No they were not there before the war, We just figured it was a good place to sucker them into and destroy them and bring democracy to the middle east and show the world what pure evil(al Qaida) is!!!!!!!! This all happened with all the libs encouraging Al qaida and wishing failure for Bush. Ironic isn’t it, wishing for failure? Isn’t that what this blog is about?

    *

    is the viagra that makes you this way?

    or the oxycotin?

    :)


  922. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Oh shit, he hit the lamp.

    And you know he can’t pay for it ’cause he’s got no money.

    Dammit. that was a nice lamp too. Way to go, baldyross.


  923. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    barfly, on the carpet there… is that troll blood? Or troll poo?
    ________

    Is there really any difference?


  924. EugeneDebs says:

    fightextremism Says:

    Hey moron why do you cons think working is something extraordinary? I have had a job since I was 18 the same one the last 32 years. I guess when morons like you live in mommys basement you think it is something special. You are stupid. We arent. What would be amazing for you is just what we do. I know Rush told you all us liberals are on wellfare but he just lies to you morons because you are so stupid and he doesnt care if you make fools out of yourself. Really though you ought to find some self respect and stop humiliating yourself so much


  925. ralph the wonder llama says:

    The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Is there really any difference?

    (sigh) I suppose not.


  926. jay says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    twajie says:

    I still luv ya though. Maybe some day you will realize who I really am. Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    Careful Twajie or someone we will not mention might expose you for what you really are.

    Hey Tros. Go for it. What do I care? You were suckered tonight and are afraid to admit it. You were all Suckered. I mean really Suckered. Acted like the little Bundest that you are.

    You provided great entertainment for all of us here. They couldn’t keep from laughing.


  927. baldyross says:

    ***Food for thought***
    By the way, was there anyone in here proud to be an American before Micheal Obama said it was cool?


  928. baldyross says:

    Why is there so much hate and name calling in here?


  929. jay says:

    First thing. I’m not Twajie. Then you came here as I knew you would to defend your like minded friends TROS.

    Suckered no matter how you look at it.


  930. ralph the wonder llama says:

    baldyross Says:
    ***Food for thought***
    By the way, was there anyone in here proud to be an American before Micheal Obama said it was cool?

    Who is Michael Obama? And when did he say it was cool?

    Damn, that was my favorite lamp, too.


  931. EugeneDebs says:

    baldyross Says:

    eugenedebs? We did have it our way and the surge DID work.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    You had it your way for a long time. Bush lied and took us to a war that we had no reason to fight and you got lots of Americans killed for Halliburton and oil profits. Congratulations.

    As far as Al qaida in Iraq is concerned, No they were not there before the war, We just figured it was a good place to sucker them into and destroy them and bring democracy to the middle east
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Yeah because after 9/11 there was so much confustion about that. You do know that is ridiculous dont you?

    This all happened with all the libs encouraging Al qaida and wishing failure for Bush. Ironic isn’t it, wishing for failure? Isn’t that what this blog is about?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Which happend mostly in the brainwashed and confused minds of moronic conservatives. We wanted to go after OBL not let Bush take us to a war we didnt need to fight. BUSH left off fighting al Queda where they WERE to fight a more profit friendly war in Iraq. Seven YEARS after 9/11 Ben Laden is still laughing at us and Bush says he doesnt think about him that much. Now THAT is encouragement. The worst terrorist act in American history and Bush just forgets about him.


  932. baldyross says:

    That’s right this is a liberal room


  933. Old Uncle Dave says:

    The right-wing Republicans are in total meltdown mode as they teeter on the brink of irrelevance. They not only hope he fails, you can bet they will be doing all they can to bring about that failure.


  934. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    I see you are trying the really stupid Rush defense of YOU are going to act like an utter and complete fool and when you are called on it you were suckering us. See we arent as ignorant as you. We arent brainwashed nor anywhere NEAR as stupid as you. Things have to make sense for us to take them seriously. You morons think anything you say magically becomes true. It must SUCK to be as stupid as you.


  935. jay says:

    Trajan75 IQ Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    twajie:

    I led you and a few other lame trolls into an ambush

    In your mind TROS. In your Mind. I came here looking for you and your friends. You were all the hit of the party tonight.


  936. ralph the wonder llama says:

    baldyross Says:
    Why is there so much hate and name calling in here?

    Well, baldy, that kind of thing tends to happen when strangers show up and their first contact with the TP community is something along these lines:

    You Liberal idiots think your the anointed ones but all of your hateful posts here show two things.
    1) Your all full of hate.

    2) Your all scared.

    We Conservatives aren’t going anywhere. The country will need us to repair the damage you Liberal morons are causing.

    Deal with it.

    It compounds the problem when said commenter later wrote:

    when I first came here and you liberals attacked me.

    See, it’s bad enough to come through the door with squirt guns blazin’. But then to later refuse to take responsibility for one’s hostility… that’s just chickenshit, to be honest.


  937. EugeneDebs says:

    baldyross Says:

    Are you still stuck on that really ignorant only conservatives are patriotic idiocy? The reason there is a lot of namecalling is morons like YOU think there is nothing wrong with questioning our patriotism because the screechmonkeys that do your thinking for you tell you its true. You are not the patriotism police and I dont have anything to prove to idiots who think that because we disagree with you that we dont love our country. YOU are an idiot


  938. jay says:

    Hey Eugene Deb.

    The girls at the party couldn’t figure out if you were a guy or a girl. You ceatainly were a hit though.

    TROS, you and your friends were suckered. No doubt about it.


  939. baldyross says:

    Bin laden is hiding in a hole. From my last check he has managed another attack on us. The world now knows what he truly is. Game over. Hell if we had capture him he would be in civil courts making a mockery of us. By the way I thought Barrack was going in there to get him. No, it’s up to the World to pressure Pakistan too give him up now. We cleaned up Afghanistan to start with. NATO should have taken care of the rest. Killing him wouldn’t change a thing, But embarrassing
    Al Qaida in Iraq and showing thier pure evil, “priceless”


  940. EugeneDebs says:

    jay Says:

    And you were the party clown. Thanks for sharing your stupidity. It was great laughing at you and lets face it. You have nothing else to offer BUT your stupidity


  941. baldyross says:

    Well debs are you proud? You side stepped the question.


  942. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    jay Says:

    TROS, you and your friends were suckered. No doubt about it.
    __________

    Me? How? How was I suckered?

    I wasn’t even here for the better part of this mass troll fustercluck.

    Perhaps you suffer from some sort of reading comprehension problem.

    Certainly a reality comprehension problem.


  943. joe cantwell says:

    baldyross Says:
    Bin laden is hiding in a hole. From my last check he has managed another attack on us. The world now knows what he truly is. Game over. Hell if we had capture him he would be in civil courts making a mockery of us. By the way I thought Barrack was going in there to get him. No, it’s up to the World to pressure Pakistan too give him up now. We cleaned up Afghanistan to start with. NATO should have taken care of the rest. Killing him wouldn’t change a thing, But embarrassing
    Al Qaida in Iraq and showing thier pure evil, “priceless”

    *

    pure evil:

    “Know this if nothing else: This was a hate crime. I hate the damn left-wing liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a communist state. Shame on them….

    “This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book. I’d like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I know those people were inaccessible to me. I couldn’t get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chickenshit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It’s the only way we can rid America of this cancerous pestilence.”

    “I thought I’d do something good for this Country Kill Democrats til the cops ki