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Ziegler: Conservatives Who Criticized Palin Are ‘Traitors’ Who Should Be ‘Ostracized And Punished’

Earlier this week, conservative filmmaker and former talk radio host John Ziegler released his latest movie, Media Malpractice, in which he claims that the media’s treatment of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin during the presidential campaign was “one of the greatest public injustices of our time.” Ziegler promoted the film in a series of contentious interviews this week, including one in which he claimed that MSNBC’s Norah O’Donnell should have been fired for incorrectly quoting Palin once.

But as Huffington Post’s Jason Linkins’ pointed out, Ziegler’s ire is often misplaced because “Sarah Palin’s reversal of fortunes came not as a result of ‘liberal media’ criticism. ‘Twas conservatives — Brooks, Krauthammer, Will, Buckley, Parker, and others — that really ran Palin off the road.”

During a CPAC panel today, Ziegler addressed such conservatives, saying that they should be “ostracized and punished”:

ZIEGLER: And I’ve got to say a few words about the Right in this situation too because sometimes we get what we deserve on this issue because we are oftentimes a lot of cowards. We don’t stand up for our own, we don’t stand up for what we believe, we allow ourselves to be tortured in the news media and a lot of us end up selling out to the other side for a guest spot on Meet The Press or Larry King Live because they know that a conservative saying something bad about another conservative is automatically going to be newsworthy and get them a higher profile. Well, those people ought to be ostracized and punished.

Watch it:

Ziegler then referred to the heretics as “traitors,” adding that it “goes far deeper” than conservative members of the media. “This goes throughout the entire organizational structure of the conservative movement,” said Ziegler. “They do not protect their own.”

Transcript:

ZIEGLER: We as conservatives need to stand up and defend people who are unfairly targeted as Sarah Palin was so that other people on our side in the future will not face the same thing and other people on our side will have the guts to stand up and take the arrows. Because if we’re not defending the people who are taking the arrows on our side, guess what’s going to happen? They’re all going to be lying dead on the battlefield and we’re not going to have any more soldiers because no one else is going to take the chance.

And I’ve got to say a few words about the Right in this situation too because sometimes we get what we deserve on this issue because we are oftentimes a lot of cowards. We don’t stand up for our own, we don’t stand up for what we believe, we allow ourselves to be tortured in the news media and a lot of us end up selling out to the other side for a guest spot on Meet The Press or Larry King Live because they know that a conservative saying something bad about another conservative is automatically going to be newsworthy and get them a higher profile. Well, those people ought to be ostracized and punished. (Applause). And this goes far deeper than just those who are traitors for a spot on Meet The Press. I mean, this goes throughout the entire organizational structure of the conservative movement. They do not take this issue seriously. They do not protect their own. They do not promote causes for people who are truly in it for the cause rather than just themselves and their own self-aggrandizement.



118 Responses to “Ziegler: Conservatives Who Criticized Palin Are ‘Traitors’ Who Should Be ‘Ostracized And Punished’”

  1. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    They’re turning on each other… cool..

    Internecine warfare… the GOOPers are losing it.


  2. stateofthedivision says:

    All one had to do was watch Sarah Palin’s pitiful responses to questions. She blew it, all by herself.


  3. Zooey says:

    Gawd, I love a Repug feeding frenzy on the weekend. :-D

    Do these fools understand that the cameras all around are saving their speeches on the Youtubes?


  4. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Indeed, TRoS. This is fun.

    Who’s got the popcorn?


  5. ralph the wonder llama says:

    It’s just too bad that all our troll friends can’t relax and enjoy this show alongside us. But I guess it must be painful for them.

    Otherwise they wouldn’t show up here and make such stupid comments. It’s just a way to deal with the pain. That’s my theory.


  6. Canny55 says:

    Another manifestation of the GOP’s mob mentality. You’re either with them or against them. Any dissenters are traitorous anti-Americans. Watching CPAC transpire this week is like viewing a slowly rotting carcass.


  7. Above the Clouds says:

    Sarah Palin was “targeted?” As the fresh, new face of the GOP, Palin proved all by herself to be an intellectual lightweight and in way over her head. Even Randy Scheunemann’s coaching sessions could not cover up her lack of depth in any subject except introducing Joe the Plumber.


  8. Canny55 says:

    Speaking of Joe the Plumber, it appears that he couldn’t sustain the interest of his basement audience at a bookstore for long. All in all, he only managed to sell five copies of his largely ghostwritten trash, which is still being advertised all over Pajamas Media like it’s the next “it” novel for conservatives.

    They have no clear vision for the future.


  9. realist says:

  10. joe cantwell says:

    go get ‘em zieg,

    throw a shoe at

    charlie krauthammer

    the next time you see him.

    :)


  11. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Woe… they are in the “eat the babies” mood, aren’t they. How silly and immature.


  12. Canny55 says:

    ^

    And they critique us for supposedly brushing off opposition. Palin’s anti-media crusade is amusing, but ultimately, it will be an ineffective effort. She’s only making herself look unable to withstand the attacks from the wicked “liberal media”…


  13. laworder says:

    If somebody just heard this guy shouting all this stupid crap, without the video feed, you would think it was some kind of clan rally. Sarah Palin? Are you kidding me pal? You can’t be serious.


  14. tbone says:

    What is interesting to me is that they treat each other (when their own success is threatened) in the same vein they treated Democrats. The message they are sending to everyone is that no one is safe unless they toe the ultra-right line. I can’t remember who said it at the time, but when the election results came in, one pundit said that all that is left on the R side is far right idealogues. This analysis seems to me to be spot on.


  15. Patty says:

    Talk out of both sides of your mouth much, Mr. Ziegler?

    The very reason it’s news when a conservative criticizes another is because of its rarity — you know, the old fall-in-line, talking-points code of ethics????

    Please.


  16. McWars says:

    When your party no longer allows you to put 2+2 together, it’s time to sell that party to the junkyard for a cool $100.


  17. Canny55 says:

    Does anyone find it ironic that, despite the fact that he trashes the media in his whinefest documentary, Ziegler has no issues with suggesting that the conservative political/news movement shields its own members from inner criticism? Do I smell some form of hypocrisy here?

    He’s essentially protesting a liberal “stranglehold” over the media (which is, of course, a right-wing myth) while promoting a structure where conservatives defend their fellow members, regardless of the situation.

    Sad.


  18. digger says:

    The questions to Palin were legitimite by any reportering standard and were not complicated by any means no matter how you try to frame this. The answere were just down pathetic and sad to have to watch and listen to. The answere were sad because a govorner of the USA was seen making a fool of herself and every citizen if this country and seen by intelligent people across the world…I for one am imbarrest to say the least. Good luch with your next run for president…but you better start reading all those newspapers you say you read…the ones you couldn’t name.


  19. Rich H says:

    Wow, and I thought this was going to be a slow news day. This just keeps getting better and better.


  20. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Indeed, TRoS. This is fun.

    Who’s got the popcorn?
    __________

    Shhhhh… they’re about to announce the Mixed-Sexes Circular Firing Squad Competition… flip open that cooler, will ya? I need a fresh one…


  21. Patty says:

    Sarah Palin needed no help in imploding.

    Also. Too.


  22. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    ‘Twas conservatives — Brooks, Krauthammer, Will, Buckley, Parker, and others — that really ran Palin off the road.”

    I thought there was a reason I wrote Turning On You. It was all those conservatives on jumped on the Dump Sarah bandwagon.


  23. Canny55 says:

    Fear not, my fellow ThinkProgress progressives. While Limbaugh may have concluded the event, I think that there will be a few interviews before all of the barbarians over at CPAC head back home. I think TP has provided us with a respectable amount of entertainment this evening, what with Rush’s rant and the audience cheering over the mere mention of Obama being a foreigner or covert communist…


  24. SharksBreath says:

    This makes complete sense from a Republican point of view.

    When something doesn’t work embrace it more.


  25. Patty says:

    Maybe we should promise Mr. Ziegler that only the lovely Mr. Hannity of Fox News will be allowed to provide the equally lovely Alaska governor’s media spots.


  26. MapleStreet says:

    You’re either with us or against us. No matter what wrongs we do, you have to support us.

    What sort of seige mentality does this represent ?


  27. Jim Wolf359 says:

    “There is reason to fear that, like Saturn, the revolution may devour each of its children in turn.”
    Pierre Vergriand, Paris 1793

    Me thinks this kinda describes the Republican Party today.


  28. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    MapleStreet Says:

    What sort of siege mentality does this represent ?
    _____________

    For more information, look under: Hitler, Adolph… or perhaps The Final Days…


  29. Jim Wolf359 says:

    TRoS, the movie “Downfall” illustrates the seige mentality very well. Best movie I’ve seen on the last days of Hitler.


  30. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    I think I understand what’s going on here.

    The righties somehow got ahold a “Best of Monty Python” dvd and watched “The Killing Joke” sketch.

    They’re determined to come up w/ their own deadly joke… and it’s working.

    I’ve been laughing so hard I hurt all over.


  31. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Jim Wolf359 Says:

    TRoS, the movie “Downfall” illustrates the seige mentality very well. Best movie I’ve seen on the last days of Hitler.
    _____________

    Yep… that was EXACTLY the movie I was thinking of.


  32. Canny55 says:

    And they claim that liberals are the automatons!


  33. Rich H says:

    “It was the medias fault and also too the liberals who asked me questions that weren’t pre-cleared. Also and the sexist way I was treated as well and were too all the questions I was asked they wouldn’t ask a man.

    I was treated unfairly you betcha. I was, Im going to read some papers and also take care of the sexist attacks on my administration here in Alaska so I can run for President.

    In the meantime I’m cooking some moose stew, riding snow machines and also did ya notice there’s no such thing as global warming, and also too it’s way much easier shooting wolves from a helicopter in the winter ’cause the stand out so easy against the white.

    You Betcha”

    Good Grief, Sarah Palin and the words intelligent or intellectual (even if their used to show her ignorance) don’t belong in the same sentence.


  34. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Saaaay,,, where are all the trolls?

    Perhaps it is simply too painful to have to admit, in public that this is “your political movement”, at its best….

    Heh… I sure as hell know I wouldn’t want to be associated w/ these LOOOOOSERS.


  35. WAYNEBRO says:

    Man, its like a regular little Reichstag rally over there.


  36. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    I hafta say… Fox and CNN are doing a great job of keeping the ones w/ paper bags over their heads off camera…


  37. Jim Wolf359 says:

    Party Rally actually Wayne. The Nazis torched the Reichstag to give Hitler the excuse he needed to suspend civil liberties in Germany and seize total power.


  38. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Hey, WAYNEBRO… heard the brass at “TP’s Wide Wide World of Whack-A-Troll™” are editing down your monumental catch-and-release match w/ b-cup yesterday to a snappy two minutes of highlights and will air it on a future episode.

    Congrats!


  39. Jim Wolf359 says:

    Yeah Wayne, that was an epic takedown on Backup. Well done! It was fun to watch and read.


  40. Canny55 says:

    Never underestimate FOX and conservative radio. They’re both potent, notwithstanding the fact that they harbor stupidity and morons, but they’re able to easily distribute misinformation to millions of households each week and produce more CPAC barbarians. We need to offer the American people an honest, truthful alternative that offers the news from a progressive perspective…but no Al Franken acts this time, eh?


  41. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Jim Wolf359 Says:

    Party Rally actually Wayne. The Nazis torched the Reichstag to give Hitler the excuse he needed to suspend civil liberties in Germany and seize total power.
    ____________

    No need to argue, boys… you’re BOTH right!

    What we’re seeing here is a bizarre hybrid Party Rally-cum-Reichstag moment for the GOOPers. They’re busy setting a torch to their own party whilst they’re in the midst of having a meeting of… said… party.

    Simply… amazing…

    I can’t wait for the Grand Finale… when they form a giant conga line, led by El Rushbo himself, and samba right offin’ that cliff over there…


  42. Rich H says:

    Canny,

    I like Al. He had some epic battles with O’Reilly – and won.


  43. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Rich H Says:

    I like Al. He had some epic battles with O’Reilly – and won.
    __________

    Are you referring to Senator Franken?


  44. Jim Wolf359 says:

    Sorry TRos, I tend to nitpick on history that I know well from study. I know what Wayne meant and yes, he is quite correct.


  45. Rich H says:

    Yes, what’s wrong with Al? Now he only needs to put that unconvicted felon Coleman away so he can get to the Senate.
    He did win didn’t he?


  46. Paddy says:

  47. Canny55 says:

    There’s no way in the world Coleman will manage to narrow down Franken’s lead, unless he wants to toss more lawsuits out. I suppose we should refer to him as Senator Franken now. If that’s the case, I do believe that we should retain Al in some way if we ever re-established a progressive/liberal program…but we need to counter Limbaugh’s factual failures with honest proposals and clear critiques that resonate with ordinary folks.


  48. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Jim Wolf359 Says:

    Sorry TRos, I tend to nitpick on history that I know well from study.
    __________

    S’cool, Jim. This is wildly entertaining material.

    I usually can’t stand reality TV, but this is great…


  49. Rich H says:

    Canny,

    I see what you mean. Really, no one in the midwest would ever give Franken a break on anything he says – just because he’s Al Franken (hey, I’ve heard that before).

    Really though, good point. I still like him.


  50. helenahandbasket says:

    What a goose-stepper.


  51. laworder says:

    Living in Minnesota, I’m just sick to death with Coleman and his lawyers. The court is acting like if they don’t listen to hogwash, their decision would be overturned. Give me a break, the election was clean.

    Coleman reminds me of some 5 year old dropped off at Kindergarten for his first day of class. He’s crying, yelling, kicking the teacher, making a fool out of his parents, (in this case the kangaroo court which can’t add)


  52. Canny55 says:

    Well, considering Coleman’s finance issues, I do think that he should listen to Mitch McConnell and step down like a statesman…wait, that only applies to Democrats when they’re in a contentious race with a Republican, whether it’s for the presidency, the House, or the Senate.

    The only issue I see is that this Minnesota Senate race will leave a bad taste in the mouth of the public. Al will have to emerge with a clear agenda and the charisma necessary to win over disgruntled voters. He needs to shed some of that “comedian” mold, but not entirely.


  53. WAYNEBRO says:

    #
    #

    Jim Wolf359 Says:

    Sorry TRos, I tend to nitpick on history that I know well from study. I know what Wayne meant and yes, he is quite correct.

    lol, no problem. I just said Reichstag rally because it sounded better. I like words that roll.

    Hey RoS, that’s pretty cool. I never expected that.


  54. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    I would love, just once, to find myself standing in an elevator w/ BillO, so’s I could find some innocuous way to work the phrase “Senator Franken” into the conversation, just to watch BillO start twitching, then shaking, until his li’l pointy head ’splodes…


  55. fergus says:

    Hey, who knew that the CPAC was going to turn into a cannibal feast? I wonder if they served each other up with Heinz catsup? Or is it ketchup?


  56. laworder says:

    Al Franken has been the person acting like a true Senator in this whole debacle. Franken will do well, he’s very intelligent and knows how to handle himself.


  57. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    WAYNEBRO Says:

    lol, no problem. I just said Reichstag rally because it sounded better. I like words that roll.
    ___________

    Like I said boys… technically, you were BOTH right.
    ___________

    Hey RoS, that’s pretty cool. I never expected that.
    ___________

    What can I say, WAYNEBRO… I know quality Whack-A-Troll™ when I see it, and that was a monumental match…


  58. Canny55 says:

    Oh, of course he does. When he was debating Ann Coulter, Al held his own extremely well. He knows how to seamlessly combine intellect and humor – so much that it allows him to connect with the audience while slightly discomforting his opponent. Coleman’s charismatically dull. He’s had his time to shine in Minnesota, and he certainly hasn’t delivered.


  59. WAYNEBRO says:

    Bill Maher is supposed to debate Ann Coulter for three nights in some public forum. He announced it on his show but I don’t remember where he said it would be. I think its next week.

    That’s something I’d pay for on PPV if they put it on.


  60. barfly says:

    This attempt by conservatives to regain political relevance is like watching a twelve-step program participant on reality tv. The patient seems to fluctuate between acceptance and denial; but is it a denial that the party is merely sick, or truly dying?

    This time is beginning to have a nostalgic, post-Nixon-era feel to it, complete with inparty infighting.


  61. Canny55 says:

    Maher and Coulter in the arena? I’m betting my coins on Maher, simply because he won’t bore the audience to sleep by repeatedly using the word liberal. Such is the way Coulter functions: she has to associate her opponents with liberalism, Communism, socialism, Nazism, or whatever title her mind could produce within a few seconds.


  62. LibertyLover says:

    Zielglar’s got it bad for Mrs. Palin…


  63. 08Dariana says:

    These people are still defending sarah palin?
    Trick track chuchuchcuhcuchu boom….


  64. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Canny55 Says:

    Such is the way Coulter functions: she has to associate her opponents with liberalism, Communism, socialism, Nazism, or whatever title her mind could produce within a few seconds.
    __________

    And the endless ibids… don’t forget the damned ibids…


  65. Zooey says:

    I don’t care what you say, Zeigler, Palin ain’t gonna sleep with you.

    There’s bigger prey out there…


  66. WAYNEBRO says:

    Yea I heard she’s still holding out for Jacques Chirac.

    Even though they told her she’s still not quite convinced that call wasn’t real.


  67. barrelhse says:

    Zooey, you’re always funny. (And anyway, she’s sleeping with Levi Johnston)


  68. Max-1 says:

    .

    I know a plumber dude that thinks they should be shot!

    .


  69. Zooey says:

    Thank you, barrelhse, thank you very much. I’ll be here all week. Try the veal, and don’t forget to tip your waitstaff. ;)


  70. Canny55 says:

    Ah, Zooey. What would we do without your comical contributions?


  71. Zooey says:

    I hope you never find out, Canny. :)


  72. avchavis says:

    This is just non-stop entertainment! Palin has absolutely no ownership of her silly mistakes and lousey interviews. You lost the election BYATCH get over it! Run in 2012 with Jindel so we all can continue to be entertained for another 4 years by your foolishness!


  73. SharksBreath says:

    Republicanism. Soon to be officially labeled a cult.


  74. Jackie says:

    The meeting of the Wing Nuts. I did notice Sarah was a no show and even picked a visit to see Obama over her own party. The Republican Economic Adviser Joe the Plummer and Rush the child molester/druggie what can anyone execpt from these Looney Tunes.


  75. Xisithrus says:

    Why must people always be punished for espousing their opinions with these political activists?

    Punishing others stifles needed debate and criticism..may as well just say “If your not a single minded lemming then when dont want you or your input”


  76. EugeneDebs says:

    How big of an idiot do you have to be to give such a rabid defense of Bimbostien? The woman has the substance of a soapbubble. That was plain to see. They TRIED to give her softball questions it was just that NO question was easy enough for this intellectual lightweight


  77. Trittydi says:

    Ziegler and Palin should just get a room and get it out of their systems.
    *


  78. Mr. Evil says:

    Ziegler said, “we don’t stand up for our own.” I thought ‘our own’ was the United States of America. Another instance where republicans put party first and everything else, including our country, dead last in a festering pile of raped, burned and totally destroyed rubble.

    Republicans Are Anti-America!


  79. krystalview says:

    Let me get this straight…. “ostracized” from a party that is fast becoming a pariah within the mainstream society of the United States?
    Yeah! That makes a lot of sense!!


  80. alanearth says:

    Ziegler was getting blow jobs from palin.


  81. Xisithrus says:

    Ziegler sounds like he wants to bring back the fairness doctrine but only apply it his political group


  82. joe cantwell says:

    krystalview Says:
    Let me get this straight…. “ostracized” from a party that is fast becoming a pariah within the mainstream society of the United States?
    Yeah! That makes a lot of sense!!

    *

    kinda like being laughed at

    by the klan, ain’t it?

    ***


  83. mk3872 says:

    Punished? WTF? It is amazing how the low-life most radical scoundrals of the conservatives and GOP have the most loudest voice of the Repub party right now.


  84. Joe the Philosopher says:

    Ziegler must never have heard of the Republican Party’s Eleventh Commandment: “Thou should not criticize other Republicans That’s been the real norm, not “They do not protect their own.” Since when? Baloney schloneny. They usually protect their own right up until they’re being bused off to the nearest federal prison. Part of the Republican mental disorder is that they can’t admit anything…especially facts.

    Ziegler’s an idiot.


  85. wiley says:

    I have to wonder if they are thinking that McCain/Palin would have won if only all the Republicans believed. What a bunch of maroons.


  86. Rich H says:

    Is it possible we went through this entire post without a troll?


  87. labman57 says:

    Someone needs to remind Herr Zeigler that the Nazis lost.

    Zeigler: “You vill embrace Ms. Palin, or you vill be shot!”


  88. Game of Life says:

    What a bunch of lemmings.

    HAHAHAHAHA

    Failures to the max, goose stepping idiots, crybabies, warmongering, sadist, shock and Awe.

    BTW — Gawd, did anyone see steele on DL Hughley. Chuck D is on steele’s case. It was great.
    Can TP do a thread?


  89. Game of Life says:

    We are witnessing the emotional breakdown of the repug club.

    From inside out.


  90. KayInMaine says:

    Here’s John Ziegler on a dating show:

    http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2009/02/24/john-ziegler-who-interviewed-sarah-palin-goes-on-a-date/

    Notice how shallow he is! A typical member of the American Taliban who hates women.


  91. liberalinaredstate says:

    Is Zeigler f**king Palin or just fantasizing? This guy has it bad for the Alaskan Queen of Doom


  92. Wannabekool says:

    Pooh! Pooh! Pooh! Was that just sandbox play when the media made Hillary Clinton the Witch of the World? In comparison, what Sarah has gone through is mere child’s play.

    stateofthedivision, No. 2, says it about right. Palin did it to herself. In the bargain I got to see Katie Couric in a new light, one of knowledge and competence. Now whose candle burns brighter?

    To all Republicans: Why don’t you go home and sit in the corner?


  93. dbadass says:

    I am still perplexed by Palin’s alledged “hotness”. I suppose relative to the rest of the female conservatives out there she might be something but still…


  94. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I’m with you, dbadass. Sarah is attractive enough, until she begins to speak. I don’t find hatred and closed-mindedness very sexy.


  95. dbadass says:

    Morning ralph! I am still pissed at you, you know. I nurture and nourish the fake John Kerry and you get all the cred…


  96. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I can dig that. It’s just your bad luck you were off attending to your life when JK’s doctor got the combination of meds just right.

    It was an astounding thing, I tell ya, when he actually replied to a post. I was floored.


  97. dbadass says:

    I think the fake JK is finally coming out of its shell. I anticipate great things if we continue to help build its confidence. Oh and I was only kidding about the pissed thing.

    I wonder if JK digs baked stuffed shrimp. I just finished the stuffing…


  98. continuum says:

    Amazing. The neocons are eating their own kind. I just wonder what will be left of the GOP in another few years. The rightwing nutjobbers are intent on purifying the GOP of anyone who dares have a different view. The neocon philosophical purity may play well at a CPAC convention, but it will destroy them at the ballot box.


  99. Tawdry says:

  100. ralph the wonder llama says:

    dbadass, Troll JK just popped his head in the door over at one of the Limbaugh threads.

    I’m sorry I ruined your surprise but I just HAD to tell him about your stuffed shrimp. I thought it might induce him to stick around.


  101. Hawkeye says:

    Crazy and stupid…two words that describe entirely too many of the “Conservatives” in America today. Ziegler is glaring example of this truth.


  102. realpatriot says:

    ya know, reading how poor ms. palin was so mis-aligned while running for vp is getting extremely tiresome. If you believe the earth is 5 thousand years old, abortion is wrong no matter the consequence and all the other drivel neo-cons spew as truth, the I guess exposing her and her beliefs are a concern…
    Huckabee, palin, piyush jindhal, are all rapture freaks…romney wears magic underware, and limbaugh is a drug/sex addict….
    the party deserves the spotlight it’s getting right now…


  103. celtic cynic says:

    John Ziegler is a good example of a reject from the shallow end of the gene pool.


  104. thomthum says:

    “…we allow ourselves to be tortured in the news media…”

    They still have this whole icky torture thing going.


  105. telestai2 says:

    MapleStreet Says:

    What sort of seige mentality does this represent ?

    What sort of “mentality,” period, does this represent?


  106. telestai2 says:

    Jim Wolf359 Says:

    “There is reason to fear that, like Saturn, the revolution may devour each of its children in turn.”
    Pierre Vergriand, Paris 1793

    Me thinks this kinda describes the Republican Party today.
    Except that the neothugs, far from being “revolutionary,” are merely revolting.


  107. Cleo says:

    Oooh, Ziegler’s feined outrage makes me think that maybe someone got a BJ out of the deal.


  108. ralph the wonder llama says:

    telestai2 Says:

    Me thinks this kinda describes the Republican Party today.
    Except that the neothugs, far from being “revolutionary,” are merely revolting.

    You said it. They stink on ice.


  109. Marie says:

    Critics of Palin should be “ostracized and punished” as traitors – BUT
    critics who want to see Obama fail and herald the fall of America are not traitors and do not deserve ostracism and punishment?

    Ziegler is ridiculous.
    Repugs ruined this nation in systematic fashion beginning 25 years ago, they have made corruption and greed synonymous with Washington – and they have no credibility, and people have no reason to listen.


  110. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    Patriot Actor Says:
    http://www.merinews.com/ catFull.jsp?articleID=15712452

    “it is of the opinion of the underwriter”

    What a hoot. This “underwriter” completely ignores the fact that Fixed News and many conservative commentators also criticized Jindal’s speech. It fixated on MSNBC because it perceives that station to be to the left of center (totally ignoring Joe Scarborough and Pat Buchanan).


  111. Joe the Philosopher says:

    The best definition of a Republican (besides “uninformed Duffus”) is “a person without character.”


  112. scytherius says:

    The GOP is in a full fledged civil war. And I am SO loving the show.


  113. bleeda says:

    WOW, isn’t that PALIN a GREAT LADY!!!!!

    Elect Palin – Rumsfeld 2012!!


  114. superid says:

    People who charge rape victims for their exams should be ostracized.


  115. dbearton says:

    Scytherius, I am enjoying the show too! The RepubliCons are perverted. They are not happy, unless they are hatemongering or warmongering.


  116. curious says:

    Haven’t we reached a fine state of affairs? It is now traitorous to question or criticize someone running for the second most powerful position in America.

    WE should accept her shallowness, her empty head, her lack of knowledge of even the most basic American history. And her lack of knowledge of even her own state. When asked a question about the Supreme Court, she could not give one case as an example of the voting. She did not even know about Alaska’s own case before the Supreme Court regarding the decision of the massive oil spill. The Exxon Valdez case.

    Actually there is not one Republican that should not be, “ostracized and punished.” But first they should be horse whipped. If we could find a horse big enough.


  117. youtube says:

    They start to realize that they are losing, turn on each other, attack each other lol


  118. teri3157 says:

    There is a prior post about the republican party turning into a cult (can’t find it)…IT ALREADY IS! And what we are seeing are the final days…

    Theoretically, cults “burst” or implode like super novas after a certain period of years, usually around the 30 year mark. Even though the party has been around about 150 years, it was about 30 years ago that the religious right began to take it over…are you seeing the picture? The religious right used coercive-persuasive tactics to take over…and the rubs didn’t see it coming…

    What comes next are more GOP’ers who leave by the “back door” sort of in the middle of the night (won’t run again, change parties). More power struggle amongst the heap left, those who clawed/back-stabbed their way to the top and are now willing to claw each others eyes out for any piece of the action they can get (which is sort of where we’re at because so many of the half-sane repubs have already left after being thrown under the bus for not obeying). Meanwhile, those who have their hands on the “briefcase” have bought passage to a place where they can hide. There will be more desertions, but, in silence…these are the ones who have been planning to leave for a long time, but just haven’t quite figured out how to do it. Right now, they are “faking” loyalty until they can figure out how to ditch the party without loosing their livelihood, family, etc. And so, another cult bites the dust!



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