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Latest Stimulus Lie: Harry Reid ‘Is Committed To’ A ‘Red Light Express’ To Nevada Brothel

In the days and weeks since President Obama signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, conservatives have distorted its provisions in a desperate attempt to mislead the public about what the package will do. First they mocked parks preservation funds as spending on “grass.” Then they repeatedly and falsely claimed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sought $30 million to save a mouse. And they completely made up a mythical high-speed rail line between L.A. and Las Vegas, gleefully attacking the “magnetic levitation” train apparently because they thought the term sounds funny.

Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) took the lies to a new level today when he — with the help of an enthusiastic Fox News’s Megyn Kelly — declared that the 2009 omnibus bill included funding for a train traveling straight from “Disney” to Nevada’s most famous brothel, the Moonlight Bunny Ranch:

KELLY: It’s a super railroad, of sorts — a line that will deliver customers straight from Disney, we kid you not, to the doorstep of the moonlight bunny ranch brothel in Nevada. I say, to the moonlight Bunny Ranch brothel in Nevada. So should your tax dollars be paying for these kinds of projects? [...]

FRANKS: The majority leader of the U.S. Senate, Harry Reid has fought for this publicly and is committed to this project, even in the face of criticism. … If this is something that is truly the priority of the majority leader of the US senate, it’s pretty late in the day, Megyn.

Watch it:

ThinkProgress was unable to find such an earmark in the omnibus spending bill. When asked to point to the specific provision, Franks’ office would only tell ThinkProgress to contact Reid’s office.

Reid’s office confirmed that Franks is referring to a proposal to refurbish a historic railroad line between Gold Hill, NV, and Carson City — hardly a direct line from L.A. to the “doorstep” of a brothel. Considering there’s no funding for high-speed rail between L.A. and Las Vegas — despite Republicans’ frenetic assertions to the contrary — the idea of a Disneyland-Bunny Ranch supertrain is far-fetched, to say the least.

Ironically, at the end of the pathetically ill-informed segment, Kelly asked how politicians can be held accountable for these mythical boondoggles; Franks replied with praise for Fox News: “Fortunately, people like yourself and Fox News are a tremendous help in that regard because they tell the people — you know, sunlight has a way of being an accountability all by itself.”

Update MediaMatters notes, "Fox News will find any excuse to run photos of scantily-clad women."


105 Responses to “Latest Stimulus Lie: Harry Reid ‘Is Committed To’ A ‘Red Light Express’ To Nevada Brothel”

  1. paleolib says:

    Neither Fox “News” nor Republicans are particularly competent with regard to either geography or truth so none of this comes as a surprise.


  2. stefan says:

    It’s just wishful thinking on his part.


  3. Badmoodman says:

    Latest Stimulus Lie: Harry Reid ‘Is Committed To’ A ‘Red Light Express’ To Nevada Brothel

    – - Because when you think of smooth, snarky, bling-bling laden pimps, you envision Harry Reid.


  4. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    These guys wouldn’t own magnetic bracelets by any chance would they? And maybe somehow got caught in a reverse polarity situation? Why don’t Trent and Megyn just go to Vegas together and relieve some of their tensions? It would be good for them and better for us.


  5. Buckie Boy says:

    KELLY:— a line that will deliver customers straight from Disney, we kid you not, to the doorstep of the “moonlight bunny ranch brothel” in Nevada.

    And how many times has she VISITED this brothel?

    I certainly can’t name any….but SHE CAN…makes you go…Mmmmmmm?


  6. flavorino says:

    Ha HA!
    Fox News, news by bimbos, con men and ranters for the ignorant and crazy.


  7. raynman says:

    As long as its just the 30 Percenters who believe this crap, then I don’t care. It’s when the ‘liberal’ media just lets Fox News get away with it that I start to get worried.


  8. Above the Clouds says:

    The GOP really have NOTHING for America–this kind of BS only magnifies that point.


  9. Gregor Samsa says:

    There is truly no low FoxNews won’t stoop to… what is worse is that there are people out there who will actually believe this lie.


  10. RUCerious says:

    Not sunlight.

    More like gamma rays of stupidity.


  11. Zooey says:

    It’s a good thing these morons believe in hell, because they will be burning in it forever.


  12. citizen_pain says:

    There should be a law against outright lies being told on a national NEWS channel. Fox should be taken off the airwaves. I have to agree with a post above; idiots will always believe this crap, but we have to do a better job calling them out on it. We have to break the stranglehold that the corporatists have on our media outlets.


  13. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    raynman Says:
    As long as its just the 30 Percenters who believe this crap, then I don’t care. It’s when the ‘liberal’ media just lets Fox News get away with it that I start to get worried.

    I’m betting that this lie will be repeated on MSNBC, CNN and the regular news stations. And no one will call them on their BS. How can they when all they have on their shows are conservatives, there’s no way for progressives to set the record straight, except on the internet.

    I am so waiting for the time when a majority of Americans get their news/opinion on the Internet. It is the last media that the conservatives can’t control and that makes them crazy. I truly believe if it wasn’t for the Internet, Barack Obama would not be President today.


  14. avchavis says:

    Here we ago again, this is all the repugnicans have to offer- more lies and Bullshyte. It’s entertaining though.


  15. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    Would it be more acceptable if the Moonlight Bunny Ranch was renamed the Moonlight Heterosexuality Promotion Ranch and moved to Utah?


  16. neoconsrscum says:

    Bat

    Shit

    Crazy

    CONTURDS- you’re losing it- and becoming less relevant by
    the minute.

    Soon only the sub- 60 IQ’s will believe anything you say


  17. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    citizen_pain Says:
    There should be a law against outright lies being told on a national NEWS channel. Fox should be taken off the airwaves.

    Sorry but that horse has already left the station. A court has already ruled on a case giving Fixed News permission to lie on air.


  18. dasm says:

    With the constant lying, hate-filled personal attacks, and total Republican propaganda, shouldn’t Fox be forced to remove the word “news” from all its programming?


  19. Clumberfeet says:

    More “terrorist fist jab” annalisys from FOX.


  20. RUCerious says:

    Anyone else want to get in on the contest to make up the most outlandish shit that isn’t in the stimulus package?

    How about viagra for all federal prisoners! Even the women and children?

    Or that it funds free hotel rooms for all illegal aliens, even the ones from this planet!


  21. Bobwurst says:

    If this is something that is truly the priority of the majority leader of the US senate, it’s pretty late in the day, Megyn.

    The opperative word here is “if”. They know this is a lie, so when they add the “if” they can deny that they were lying, they were just asking the tough questions that the other channels are afraid to ask.

    And Fox news kwows the name of the place because that’s where they recruit their news bunnies.


  22. Zooey says:

    I heard there is money in the Stimulus to test the IQ of Fox news readers and their viewers.


  23. citizen_pain says:

    What court? When? Did it happen under Bu$h’s regime? I’m sure that case was a crock of sh1t if so.


  24. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    I’m betting that Fixed News chose this particular brothel for their lie because it’s the one tied to:

    Dylan, 22 years old, made the shocking decision to auction off her virginity last September at the Moonlite Bunny Ranch in Nevada.

    On the other hand, I’m betting that the Moonlite Bunny Ranch is thrilled with Fixed News right now. Talk about free publicity.


  25. boozer says:

    So what would be the problem? Moonlight Bunny Ranch is a legit business that could use the help.


  26. Bobwurst says:

    RUCurious, here’s one;

    Nancy Pelosi has a 40 million dollar earmark in the spending bill to force christians to have abortions so she can squeeze the unborn into wine to use by the gays in their pagan orgy celebrations.


  27. Game of Life says:

    Gawd, repugs are the pits.

    They talk without facts, listen without ears and see through limpydic’s eyes.


  28. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    citizen_pain Says:
    What court? When? Did it happen under Bu$h’s regime? I’m sure that case was a crock of sh1t if so.

    It as a Florida Court (no surprise there).

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/30/201231/262


  29. Brittanicus says:

    SEN. HARRY REID, TRAITOR TO AMERICAN WORKERS! E-VERIFY! 99.6 % SUCCESS RATE!

    Don’t let E-Verify expire and play into the hands of the corporate overlords and pro-illegal immigration special Interest lobby?

    It’s incoherent to me that Americans cannot conceive, that they have the ultimate power to halt this corruption in Washington? The major priority is to stop illegal labor getting work. American workers must command mandatory E-verify from these inanimate politicians? Don’t let the corporate overlords win anymore? March 6th, is the deadline to stop this corruption in the Congress. Don’t hesitate to stop head traitor Harry Reid of Nevada who secretly eroded the power of E-Verify? His Partners in dropping this major law was House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Sen. Senator Gutierrez (D-IL), Sen. Feinstein (D-CAL), Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ),Max Baucus (D-MT), Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), Rahm Emanuel D-Chief of Staff)

    Not only are politicians involved in intentionally engineering this illegal immigration crisis? State Governors, Mayors, judges, county elected officers and city officials qualify equally to be thrown out on the street? Although all of them can get a favorable job with the ominous US Chamber of Commerce, Council of La Raza and other open borders special interest groups. Find out the honest politicians that support E-Verify, like Sen. Sessions, Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA). that would smash illegal immigration priority in the workplace. Locate those who killed E-Verify? Ruin their careers when they come up for re-election. Remember the deaths caused in Sanctuary cities nationwide by illegal alien gang members.

    The whole country is feeling the financial pressure, for paying for schooling, health care and prisons. Your also paying for traffic gridlock, and high environmental damage caused by overpopulation.

    Explode your anger at these lawmakers on the capitol switchboard (202) 224-3121. Leave a message for President Obama at 202) 224-3121

    What http://www.judicialwatch.org has to say about political corruption

    Whistle-blowers! Inform ICE for illegal aliens working for pariah contractors in the construction industry. Heritage Foundation has indicated that 30.000 jobs could be stolen by illegal foreign labor in stimulus plans.


  30. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    boozer Says:
    So what would be the problem? Moonlight Bunny Ranch is a legit business that could use the help.

    When Bush sent out his Stimulus checks, this brothel offered people a discount in their services if they paid for it with their stimulus check.


  31. Bobwurst says:

    boozer Says:
    So what would be the problem? Moonlight Bunny Ranch is a legit business that could use the help.

    So you admit that the bush depression is hurting legitamate buisnesses?


  32. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    RUCerious Says:

    Anyone else want to get in on the contest to make up the most outlandish shit that isn’t in the stimulus package?

    $27 billion to clone dinosaurs from DNA found in mosquitoes trapped in amber, so they can be the star attractions in a theme park??? This is starting to get ridiculous. We need to stop this right now!

    (How’s that?)


  33. dbadass says:

    How come that weird invisible hand thingie of theirs is never allowed to do its magic on the porn and recreational drug industries?


  34. McWars says:

    The collective southern hacks aren’t going to tell me what my country should look like. Most states in the south have a dismal quality of life and people, and I won’t have them stick their failed ideology down my throat.

    Everything you right wingers say bounces off President Obama. You all lost. Big time. The regional party needs to be off the top off the ballot come next election.

    They want a comeback when they’re in overtime as a major party. Fringe idiots.


  35. RUCerious says:

    BOBWURST AND WAYNE A. TIED FOR FIRST PLACE!


  36. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Moonlight Bunny Ranch is a legit business that could use the help.

    Well, I guess there are some conservatives who see prostitution as a “legit business.” I was under the impression they all thought it was “ungodly” or something.


  37. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    I like Bobwurst’s entry, too. Good one, Bobw.


  38. Bobwurst says:

    RUCurious,

    Al Franken has insterded a 4 million dollar earmark to design the next wave of high tech food-on-a-stick for the Minnisota State Fair. Even though he hasn’t be able to steal the election yet.


  39. dbadass says:

    I don’t mean to be a stick in the mud but the ever increasing use of the bold feature is sort of stepping on my man John Kerry’s turf. John is a total goofball screwup but still the bold thing is sort of all he has going so maybe we could do him a solid and steer clear of it


  40. kasinca says:

    So the party of whackos, select a drug addled gas bag to lead their movement of telling lies about fiction. Their philosophy and their policies are fiction, fear, lies, and more of the failed policies that have wrecked our economy. Anyone who chooses to vote for that is not very patriotic or intelligent.


  41. Bobwurst says:

    Thanks Wayne, but don’t sell yourself short: you’ve got verisimitude working for you. If it was a republican earmark. It would fit their defintion of science.


  42. McWars says:

    Too many of the notion that right-wingers deserve extra airtime just because they’re in the minority.

    With all the experience right-wingers have telling distortions and lies, you would think the networks would recognize giving failed nitwits airtime reflects poorly on them.

    But they do it because they (”they” being corporate interests and anchors at the networks, no matter how they voted in November) don’t want the tax-cuts for the wealthiest to end.


  43. nanlichi says:

    $40 billion to create a time machine so the Libtards can see into the future and determine which acts of sex will procreate. Then another massive government program to hire illegal aliens to go around beating on bedroom doors just before the orgasm.

    Not only a huge socialist boondoggle but where’s the sanctity of life!

    I hope he fails!!


  44. the brown acid says:

    dbadass Says:

    How come that weird invisible hand thingie of theirs is never allowed to do its magic on the porn and recreational drug industries?

    I lol’d


  45. NutWrench says:

    . . . gleefully attacking the “magnetic levitation” train apparently because they thought the term sounds funny.

    “Unaware of what year it was, Joe wandered the streets desperate for help. But the English language had deteriorated into a hybrid of hillbilly, valleygirl, inner-city slang and various grunts. Joe was able to understand them, but when he spoke in an ordinary voice he sounded pompous and faggy to them.” – Idiocracy


  46. McWars says:

    Attention Wayne A. Schneider: I just read on the CIA thread that you were “seriously considering” moving to another site.

    I need to put that out there so fellow TPers can nag you about it.

    Don’t let it happen again!


  47. dbearton says:

    Faux news should have it’s license revoked, it does not serve the public interest. When they resort to outright lies, they should be removed from the airwaves. And Franks should be voted out of office. What is wrong with the people who elected this liar?


  48. Zooey says:

    McWars Says:

    Attention Wayne A. Schneider: I just read on the CIA thread that you were “seriously considering” moving to another site.

    I need to put that out there so fellow TPers can nag you about it.

    Don’t let it happen again!
    March 2nd, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Maybe he’ll just go home to TheZoo. :-)


  49. Bobwurst says:

    At least leave us Jane, Wayne…You can take John Kerry and a troll to be named later, and we’ll throw in a case of decon and a box of christmas tree car fresheners.


  50. christopher wiwi says:

    Who needs anything else but,Republiscum Entertaiment, the line up will be as follows,Flush Limpballs, Mann Coulter, Sean Vannity,Billo,Michael Wiener(Savage)and the re-puke that somehow got elected to Washington.What a hoot these guys are.It is a sad commentary on the Reich wing.


  51. blonderedhead says:

    Hi Fox News, could you please refer to your own reporting for more accurate information on this topic?



  52. Ape-Man says:

    Maybe republicans are taken over by aliens or, maybe they just aren’t saying what is bothering them, cause they make no sense and offer no solutions. Maybe they are just very selfish and not much else, like young children, or maybe they have deep inferiority feelings and an even playing field would be too hard for them to compete in. Many are obviously just too greedy to think straight.

    They have no suggestions. They make up lies to persuade and entertain us, because they have no useful ideas. So what do they want? What do they want? Come out and say it republicans. I think some Republicans are ashamed of their own motives, and the rest know they need to keep their real motives unspoken. The result is CooCoo TV and radio.


  53. belac says:

    The outrage over this is silly… there are no super ‘mag lev’ railraods planned.

    Which is sad, we need super railroads… a real inter-state rail system for passengers and goods would be a good thing.


  54. dbadass says:

    belac is again correct as to modern rail transport


  55. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    now, if that alleged train line was dropping people off at a brothel featuring male whores and meth, the male repukie politicans would be all for it.


  56. OutstandingInMyField says:

    $3 billion for “Sex Education”–including programs which recently funded wasteful things such as events called “Booty Call and “Great Sex”….verbatim from constituent letter from Eric Cantor.


  57. sectionop92 says:

    TP needs to amend the MediaMatters update to include the airhead female anchors of Faux News in its definition of scantily-clad women.

    When you can find upskirt videos on YouTube of the female Faux News anchors with little to no trouble, it gives new meaning to “peak” ratings.


  58. Danny Noonan says:

    David Vitter is interested in this proposal and would like to hear more.

    http://www.pufferfishblog.com/


  59. MapleStreet says:

    Ya gotta admit, to the “base”, Las Vegas is just one gambling den housed in a den of iniquity.

    After all, its not like there is a train that goes to the drug dealing slums of New York, New York.

    Or fill in an unsavory attraction at your favorite city. Knowing the hate of President Obama, his association with Chicago, and the Blago scandal, I’m surprised they haven’t invented a bailout urban myth of a train system from the rest of the country to carry bags of cash to Blago in Chicago.


  60. dbadass says:

    I OWN JOHN KERRY


  61. dbadass says:

    Oh come on John I am just screwing with you. Damn you are a weird spectacle. Still I sort of feel responsible for creating the mess which is you.


  62. Liberal Kelly says:

    Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

    I’m betting that this lie will be repeated on MSNBC, CNN and the regular news stations. And no one will call them on their BS. How can they when all they have on their shows are conservatives, there’s no way for progressives to set the record straight, except on the internet.

    I am so waiting for the time when a majority of Americans get their news/opinion on the Internet. It is the last media that the conservatives can’t control and that makes them crazy. I truly believe if it wasn’t for the Internet, Barack Obama would not be President today.

    Have you SEEN the conservative websites? They are ten times more insane than the talking heads on Fox News. Have you looked at Gretawire? Conservative Revolution? The talking heads do feed the minds of these imbeciles, yet there is nothing to stop them from making blatant racist comments and expound on the things they hear on Fox News or Limbaugh. They have a total disregard for the truth. You think Fox can spin? Fox ain’t got nothing on the online population of bible thumping, gun hoarding, Jesus loving crackpots.

    They know how to use the internet, they just don’t know how to use it to their advantage.


  63. Rutabaga says:

    I thought there was nothing anyone could say or do on Faux Noise that could leave me speechless. But I was wrong. Wow.


  64. Tim43 says:

    Didn’t the “Inspirational Speaker in Chief” Obama say that he would not allow special interest and/or ear marks under his watch? Seems that I heard him say that multiple times during the campaign and documented in this article…
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/15/obama.earmarks/index.html

    What makes this worse is that HE LOOKED DIRECTLY INTO THE CAMERA DURING HIS STATE OF THE UNION AND SAID THAT THERE WERE NO EAR MARKS IN THE BILL that he was about to sign.

    So, what is this?
    http://www.earmarks.omb.gov/2009-appropriations-by-spendcom/summary.html

    Here is a good site that lists each senator and how much they received in earmarks. http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/904-Earmark-Kings-09

    Appears that the Harvard trained laywer – junior senator – Commander in Speach is already breaking his promises. Or, is he just flat out lying to us?


  65. MapleStreet says:

    Tim 43:

    I’m not even going to bother to answer till you correctly quote the President. You can find transcripts by using Google pretty easily.


  66. Tim43 says:

    MapleStreet Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Tim 43:

    I’m not even going to bother to answer till you correctly quote the President. You can find transcripts by using Google pretty easily.

    Well is a convenient way to skip a response maple. Maybe it is because you cannot come up with one.

    And, you might want to grab your government prescribed reading glasses there maple. Where did I quote obama? I mearly restated what we all heard him say. Unless, of course, you had your ear plugs in at the time.

    Ohh by the way, if you are interested in the truth, here is the Inspirational Speaker in Chief in his own words MULTIPLE TIMES INCLUDING THE SPEACH IN QUESTION… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0Grra3QHs


  67. Tim43 says:

    Here’s another one maple. Straight from the liars mouth.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZAXLhkAwl8

    AND HERE ARE THE EARMARKS…
    http://www.earmarks.omb.gov/ 2009-appropriations-by-spendcom/ summary.html

    As Al Gore would say … An inconvenient truth. It’s not really a lie because obama said it, right?


  68. Tim43 says:

    ohh maple? Where did you go maple?

    Figured as much from an obama apologist. Can’t even face the truth when it is right in front of you.

    I didn’t even need to quote obama because, thanks to youtube, his words were captured for all to hear.


  69. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Bobwurst Says:

    At least leave us Jane, Wayne…

    Why, thanks, Bobwurst! But that would be a bad deal, Wayne’s MUCH better than I am!


  70. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    Tim43 Says: yada yada yada

    You know idiot troll, if you bother to bet your facts straight you won’t end up in sounding like a moron. You are mixing apples and oranges, but that’s something that Republicant’s do all the time because they can’t be bothered by facts.

    When Obama said there were no earmarks, he was talking about the Economic Recovery Act (Stimulus) and there were none in it.

    The Omnibus bill you are getting so hysterical about was written before Obama took office but not passed. It is the bill that keeps our government running. If Obama vetoes it, he will shut down the government and that is not something we can have happen in these perilous times.

    BTW, you are aware, aren’t you that 40% of the earmarks were put there by Republicant’s…aren’t you?


  71. cd says:

    “straight from Disney…to the doorstep of the moonlight bunny ranch brothel”?

    Can I get a hooker to dress like snow white?

    giggity giggity goo!


  72. ucsbclassics53 says:

    It’s okay Tim43, the principle of Republican infallibility means that any Republican earmark becomes the sole responsibility of the Obama administration…


  73. Deferred Fixed Annuity says:

    Latest Stimulus Lie: Harry Reid ‘Is Committed To’ A ‘Red Light Express’ To Nevada Brothel.
    Deferred Fixed Annuity


  74. Angellight says:

    Political Armageddon: Ending Special Interest Influence in Washington DC

    by Bernie Horn

    There’s no question that this is the battle of a lifetime.

    The end of the world is near — the Reagan world, that is. In one gigantic political battle, we can end the world of tax cuts for the rich, federal government-led attacks on organized labor, mindless deregulation, subsidies for wealthy corporations, war against science and preemptive war in Iraq.

    The old political world will end on October 1, 2009 (the beginning of the next fiscal year) — if we just win the battle to enact President Obama’s budget.

    Anyone who didn’t see or hear Obama’s Weekly Address on Saturday should go to the White House website and watch it. It is a declaration of war against the special interests:

    I realize that passing this budget won’t be easy. Because it represents real and dramatic change, it also represents a threat to the status quo in Washington.

    http://hiddenmysteries.net/geeklog/article.php?story=20090302172226488


  75. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    So Trent Franks knows about this brothel. Want to bet that he knows all the names of the girls?


  76. bullit4us says:

    Anyone who didn’t see or hear Obama’s Weekly Address on Saturday should go to the White House website and watch it. It is a declaration of war against the special interests:

    I realize that passing this budget won’t be easy. Because it represents real and dramatic change, it also represents a threat to the status quo in Washington.

    yes 9000 earmarks should cure that


  77. bullit4us says:

    once again liberalism generates the opposite of what it was intended


  78. bullit4us says:

    morning weenies how long till you squelch me today?


  79. fergus says:

    Rep. Vitter is pushing for a nationwide high-speed rail system to the Bunny Ranch, so that, no matter where he is in the country, he is only a train ride from his “home away from home”. The next terminal after Disneyland will be at his front door.


  80. ff11 says:

    Sadly, this is about as close to the truth as Faux “News” will ever get.


  81. MapleStreet says:

    Tim43

    So you still haven’t spotted the mistake in your posting ?


  82. namekarb says:

    As a young man in the 60’s, I visited Moonlight Bunny Ranch. It is outside Carson City NV which is 150 (I’m guessing) miles north of Las Vegas. I’m not saying the program told an out and out lie but there are many more brothels closer to vegas than this one.


  83. gokhanege says:

    I am so waiting for the time when a majority of Americans get their news/opinion on the Internet. It is the last media that the conservatives can’t control and that makes them crazy. I truly believe if it wasn’t for the Internet, Barack Obama would not be President today. Ajans


  84. jay says:

    ucsbclassics53 Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    It’s okay Tim43, the principle of Republican infallibility means that any Republican earmark becomes the sole responsibility of the Obama administration…

    I believe you’re correct here. If he signs the bill then he ownes it. Isn’t that the way it works, or do you see it some other way? He said that there would be no earmarks in the bill. Now he should live up to what he said. Right?


  85. jay says:

    gokhanege Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    I am so waiting for the time when a majority of Americans get their news/opinion on the Internet. It is the last media that the conservatives can’t control and that makes them crazy. I truly believe if it wasn’t for the Internet, Barack Obama would not be President today. Ajans

    It already is to a certain extent. It’s not this site however. This is not a news site it’s an opinion site. From what I read here it is a bias opinion site. Right?

    It’s the internet that is putting the print media out of business.


  86. jay says:

    Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Tim43 Says: yada yada yada

    You know idiot troll, if you bother to bet your facts straight you won’t end up in sounding like a moron. You are mixing apples and oranges, but that’s something that Republicant’s do all the time because they can’t be bothered by facts.

    When Obama said there were no earmarks, he was talking about the Economic Recovery Act (Stimulus) and there were none in it.

    The Omnibus bill you are getting so hysterical about was written before Obama took office but not passed. It is the bill that keeps our government running. If Obama vetoes it, he will shut down the government and that is not something we can have happen in these perilous times.

    BTW, you are aware, aren’t you that 40% of the earmarks were put there by Republicant’s…aren’t you?

    Interesting angle. Obama did say there would be no earmarks allowed in his administration. He didn’t pick out any one bill. He should be held to his word. It would not shut down the country as you suggest. There is plenty of time to send the bill back to Congress and have it changed. That is what’s called leadership. It’s been done before and it can be done now. A man can be judged by the promises he keeps, or choses not to keep.


  87. jay says:

    Typo. “Chooses”. I know there are many of you who use this stuff to criticize your oponents.


  88. gnusman53 says:

    Brittanicus posted support for the leadership and morality of Ken Calvert…..

    too bad he was arrested for soliciting prostitute…..

    too bad Calvert got financial gain for himself and friends with his earmark…..

    great example for morality and honor (Vitter & Craig wing of GOP????)

    GOP== the dumb, dumber and dumbest party


  89. jay says:

    You left out Studs, Dodd and Frank.


  90. gnusman53 says:

    GOP full of social promotions…..

    GOP…(Bush43) Nigeria is a continent.
    GOP…(Palin) Africa is a country.
    GOP…(Franks) Carson City is in Las Vegas…

    Should ANYONE trust the GOP idiots to do anything??? They have already proven they can’t run a country, find a terrorist, or help save people from or after hurricanes….

    They paid contractors to kill and poison American soldiers.

    They created the economic collapse we are in now….

    GOP economic theory… (Oliver Stone predicted it in Wall Street — Greed is Good!!!)

    Tax cuts all the time (for their friends)……


  91. jay says:

    You sound pretty Bitter gnusman. I only see talking points in your post. Talking points and hate.

    Do you want to talk about it? No name calling and half truths.

    That’s a sign of weakness.

    I’m here, lets talk. Or we can go down to “The Basement” where it’s quiet.


  92. jay says:

    gnusman53 Says:

    GOP full of social promotions…..

    GOP…(Bush43) Nigeria is a continent.
    GOP…(Palin) Africa is a country.
    GOP…(Franks) Carson City is in Las Vegas

    Obama=I visited all 57 states
    Pelosi=500 million jobs lost a month.
    Hillary= I had to run from sniper fire.

    What’s your point?? I fail to see one.


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  94. BunnyranchAirforceAmy says:

    Well, this ties in beautifully to my 1/2 price overnight stimulus package I am currently offering and it will certainly save on gas as I won’t have to pick you up from the airport.

    Ride the rails so I can ride you.

    Get to the ranch take care of paperwork, get you settled in, have a great session of sex however long. We go out to dinner/lunch, catch a show, gamble, and/or sight see and then again you get all the attention, pampering and sex you can handle. We try all kinds of techniques and utilize all the options; no rules, no restrictions. Anything goes any way you feel comfortable trying. We stay overnight together in a luxury 3 BR home with all the bells and whistles and wake up in each other’s arms and do it all over again!

    That party includes anything on the menu. Massage, bubble bath, jacuzzi, exchange massage, oral get/give multiple positions, intercourse and anal sex any position we can think of give/get, breast sex, any and all sex toys. Cuddling, kissing, whispering sweet nothings. The list is endless. You’re welcome to take nude pics of me. Add another lady of your choice. We can hot tub, sun bathe, and we have a special japanese style bath, hydro massage room built especially for me and my talents I learned while in Asia. I’ve also mastered all the fetishes imaginable and am very orgasmic and plain and simple the best sex you’ll ever have.

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  95. gnusman53 says:

    Air Force Amy….seems like you should almost send a thank you letter to both Fox and Franks…. for all the free advertising…. (grin)


  96. gnusman53 says:

    Poor Jay….I could just flood you with ALL the Bush43 “BUSHISMS” ……

    GOP gave us a dumber Norm Crosby ….
    ….and sadly it seems he is now the smartest one standing in the GOP anymore…

    43…the first ESL president….


  97. gnusman53 says:

    Even Bush43 would know the difference between Carson City and Las Vegas…..

    …….

    But not congressmen (Franks) from a neighboring state……

    And Jay, since Rush has declared himself GOP GOD…

    perhaps you should wince with him calling vets “phony soldiers”, taunting callers that have served it they disagree at all with the Oxycontin Oracle….and also describing wounded vets who disagree with him like they were suicide bombers…..

    …and don’t whine Jay about him not saying anything like that…..try that, you will just make yourself a fool…..


  98. jay says:

    gnusman53 Says:

    Even Bush43 would know the difference between Carson City and Las Vegas…..

    …….

    But not congressmen (Franks) from a neighboring state……

    And Jay, since Rush has declared himself GOP GOD…

    perhaps you should wince with him calling vets “phony soldiers”, taunting callers that have served it they disagree at all with the Oxycontin Oracle….and also describing wounded vets who disagree with him like they were suicide bombers…..

    …and don’t whine Jay about him not saying anything like that…..try that, you will just make yourself a fool….

    You have all the Liberal talking points down pat gnusman.

    Is there a question in all that nonsense you just posted to me?

    I didn’t whine about anything. Obviously you are trying to pick a fight with me. Is that what you do here? Calling me a “fool” isn’t really called for now is it? You believe what you believe and I know that I will never change that.

    Now if you would like to discuss the subject without the talking points then I’m here. If you are just here to bash people with an opposing view then I’m not interested.


  99. jay says:

    The “Phony Soldiers” thing has been beaten to death. If you really heard the three day conversation where the term came up then you would know that. I think you need to get away from the Liberal Talking Points thing and learn what was really said and in the context it was said in then you might understand things a bit more than you do.

    I heard the conversation. He didn’t say what you imply he said.

    Limbaugh as a god. Now that is a silly statement.

    If you hate the guy then just come out and say that you hate the guy. I can accept that, and we can move on from there.


  100. gnusman53 says:

    Jay…Jay…Jay…
    Re: Phony
    I heard it first hand. Without the BS he used to try to cover it up….. I heard the first Mike he talked to who disagreed with Lord Rush…and the second Mike call right afterwards where “Phony Soldiers” was used….. It took Rush about 2 minutes later before he tried to explain that “soldiers” was refering to one soldier……. but then later on he claimed Murtha was a phony soldier also….. Unlike Rush….Murtha was a vietnam vet….

    That is the truth….no matter how much you want and he wants to lie about it. In fact, in the first Mike call in that set, Rush made fun about that caller, who also said he had served and disagreed with some of Rush’s statements…

    Please get your facts straight. I said Don’t whine about it or you will make yourelf a fool.

    So what did you say…You claimed not to be whining, than claimed I called you a fool.

    Wrong on both counts there Jay.

    Do I care about Rush? Not in the least. I don’t hate him. I haven’t really bothered with him for decades. But as a veteran, you could not say on radio the way I feel about him. But then, that is why the GOP likes him….

    So liberal talking points are now truth…gee thanks…but thanks to Franks and FNC that means they have just the BS talking points and outright lies…..you know like the Fantasy Sex Rail from Disneyland to a Carson City brothel they are jawjacking about now….

    So you wanted a question Jay?

    “Will the GOP ever decide to actually discuss intelligently ANYTHING…and stop lying their asses off about EVERYTHING????


  101. jay says:

    So what you’re saying is that you have the word. Fine. I don’t care for your abrasive tactics when I wanted a discussion. I heard the three day conversation where the “Phony Soldiers” were first brought up. You know that it wasn’t meant in the way you posted it here? It was meant in terms of some people who Claimed that they were Vets to get VA services. Those people were caught and convicted for that. They are the “Phony Soldiers” that Rush was referring to and you know that.

    Now back to you.

    You don’t care about Rush but you call him “Lord Rush”,

    In fact, in the first Mike call in that set, Rush made fun about that caller, who also said he had served and disagreed with some of Rush’s statements…

    That was twisted by the left to say that Rush was referring to people who disagree with the war and he was calling them Phony Soldiers”. In fact that was not what was meant.

    I’m sure you think your talking points are “the truth”. I know I can’t change your mind about that. You believe what you believe.

    you know like the Fantasy Sex Rail from Disneyland to a Carson City brothel they are jawjacking about now….

    I don’t recall saying any such thing but I’m sure you think I did. You took my simple little post and turned it into this stupid argument. You’re here for a fight, that’s all, and you’re doing your thing.

    I’m here for a discussion that you are unwilling to have.

    So where are we now?

    More garbage or an intelligent conversation on things?

    My post was about the Gaffs that both sides of the Government made. That’s all.


  102. gnusman53 says:

    Fact is you have no facts about the “phony soldiers”.

    The VA veterans benefits story is a lie. Rush tried to tie the label TWO MINUTES LATE to a soldier who supposedly claimed to be someone and someplace he was not for an article.

    He lost any chance for that flimsy bandaid to work when he added John Murtha to the list. Murtha was a marine. Rush was not. Murtha served in Vietnam. Rush did not.

    And the VA fakery was obscene, considering how the GOP abandoned soldiers and servicepeople when they returned…. Remember, by the way, it was a GOP congress that cancelled the veterans joint session of congress several years ago… and promoted someone who thought veterans who getting way too much in charge of a critical committee.

    As I said earlier, when it comes to GAFFES….BUSH IS CHAMPION!!!! And beyond compare in human history….among all world leaders.

    When it comes to lying, it seems that the GOP wants to be world champion forever…and the GOP Disney “Red Light” rail fantasy …… keeps them there.

    Of course, we could add comedy……

    GOP stalwarts (Diaper David) Vitter and (wide-stance) Craig want express rail service to the bordello added before they would vote for it. The only problem…. (grin)…. Craig hasn’t decided between the rail line going to Minneapolis airport bathrooms .. or just to his home in Idaho. Vitter has the same problem…..choosing between DC or his home in Luisiana.


  103. jay says:

    Oh well. I’m not really into trying to tear down people. I thought we were going to have a conversation about relevant things that have an impact on what is going on today.

    Sorry I’m not getting roped into an argument about who is this and who is that.

    It’s not my thing.

    Maybe someone else will argue these past issues with you but it won’t be me.

    {Diaper David) Craig, Airport Bathrooms. What has that to do with anything except that you’re into bashing Republicans?

    See ya.


  104. jay says:

    One thing about the Soldier thing. I spent two years in a combat zone and I listened to what Rush said. I understood where he was coming from and it didn’t upset me. It also didn’t upset my friends at the VA.

    If it upsets you then so be it. It’s old news gnusman. You keep beating the dead horse if you want to.



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