Steele Bows Down To Limbaugh: ‘No Attempt On My Part To Diminish His Voice Or His Leadership’
Steele Bows Down To Limbaugh: ‘No Attempt On My Part To Diminish His Voice Or His Leadership’
Yesterday, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel called Rush Limbaugh the “intellectual force” of the GOP. “And whenever a Republican criticize him, they have to run back and apologize to him, and say they were misunderstood,” he observed. Today, ThinkProgress first reported that Steele dismissed Limbaugh as an “entertainer” this weekend on CNN:
STEELE: So let’s put it into context here. Let’s put it into context here. Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh, his whole thing is entertainment. Yes, it’s incendiary. Yes, it’s ugly.
Limbaugh fired back on his show today, sneering at Steele’s leadership of the Republican Party:
“So I am an entertainer and I have 20 million listeners because of my great song and dance routine,” Limbaugh said. “Michael Steele, you are head of the Republican National Committee. You are not head of the Republican party. Tens of millions of conservatives and Republicans have nothing to do with the Republican National Committee…and when you call them asking for money, they hang up on you.
Just as Emanuel predicted, Steele has quickly backed down. Politico reports that Steele “reached out” to Limbaugh today to say that he didn’t mean what he said.
“My intent was not to go after Rush – I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh,” Steele said in a telephone interview. “I was maybe a little bit inarticulate. … There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership.” [...]
“I went back at that tape and I realized words that I said weren’t what I was thinking,” Steele said. “It was one of those things where I thinking I was saying one thing, and it came out differently. What I was trying to say was a lot of people … want to make Rush the scapegoat, the bogeyman, and he’s not.”
Steele made clear that he will welcome Limbaugh into the party,” calling him a “very valuable conservative voice for our party.” “He does what he does best, which is provoke,” Steel said. “My job is to try to bring us all together.”
Steele isn’t alone. Gov. Mark Sanford (R-SC) and Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) have previously dared to criticize Limbaugh but then quickly backed down. To quote Rush, a lot of Republicans are being told to “bend over and grab the ankles” for him.
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Heh – I guess we all saw that coming.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:48 pmdidn’t take long…you can practically hear the synchronized goosestep
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:49 pmmike steele,
“let me put my lips on
your cyst covered heinie rush!”
:)
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 pmHeil Limbaugh.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 pmSteele Bows Down To Limbaugh: ‘No Attempt On My Part To Diminish His Voice Or His Leadership’
– - This country is just SO fcuked up. Geeze.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 pmRepublicans can’t grab their ankles. I’ve seen them try many times.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 pmFurther proof that Republicans are PATHETIC!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:52 pmSo a blobby white druggie adjustable bed hawker really is their leader. How very strange…
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:53 pmLimbaugh has 400,000,000 reasons to mouth off, be a dick and stay in the news.
Steele is right. Limbaugh is just an entertainer.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:54 pm24 HOURS. It only took 24 hours for Steele to kiss limbaugh’s immense backside – 24 HOURS! Who is in charge now Mr. Steele? You or the drug addicted sex tourist? Yeah, I thought so.
Limbaugh is the king of the losers. Long may he rein.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:54 pmha! so who won the pool!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:55 pmnext up,
governor jon m. huntsman jr.
of utah. good luck jon!
:)
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:56 pmLimbaugh rips into GOP chair – “Republicans hang up on you!”
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:56 pmChristian Science Monitor – ?45 minutes ago?
By Jimmy Orr | 03.02.09 Perhaps GOP Chair Michael Steele is fighting Rush Limbaugh to get some experience so when the next election heats up, he’ll have honed his debating skills.
Give the voters a Rush Los Angeles Times
Limbaugh Versus RNC’s Michael Steele: Rush Strikes Back U.S. News & World Report
Kansas City Star – Huffington Post – Atlanta Journal Constitution – Media General Washington Bureau
all 463 news articles »
http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&ncl=d7WAOwzmGUMyKaMScgWhh-0xbWFzM&topic=n
I bet years ago Rush told the members of the American Taliban if they don’t agree with everything he says then he will personally come to their homes and do the you-know-whatsy up their arses!
This has got to be what happened because I’ve never seen a bunch of men (mainly) who can’t seem to find fault when it comes to Rush. I mean, really, look at the man! He’s grotesquely ugly, obese, homely, is a liar, has a big mouth that drools when he talks, and snorts Oxycontin up his nose while fiddling to find his Viagra.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:57 pmsteele: I talk and words come out like I’m idiot.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:58 pmA perfect Rush Limpy cartoon for this thread. :-D
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:58 pmOr maybe the right wingers are just a bunch of feminine fingered pansies? Could very well be.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:59 pmStratRat Says:
24 HOURS. It only took 24 hours for Steele to kiss limbaugh’s immense backside – 24 HOURS! Who is in charge now Mr. Steele? You or the drug addicted sex tourist? Yeah, I thought so.
Limbaugh is the king of the losers. Long may he rein.
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for the love of god we need
trolls here to defend limbaugh’s
immense backside!
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where are you?
are you all on drugs?!
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March 2nd, 2009 at 6:59 pmSo Oxycontin stealing, child molester Rush is the de facto leader of the party that claims moral superiority. Priceless.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:00 pmZooey Says:
A perfect Rush Limpy cartoon for this thread. :-D
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thanks zoo, a perfect example of limbaugh’s
folding fat phenomena.
:)
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:00 pmSteele Bows Down To Limbaugh: ‘No Attempt On My Part To Diminish His Voice Or His Leadership’
Hey Obama wanna’ be ; “leadership” is entrusted into strong , honest INDIVIDUALS .
Limpballs is a drug-addicted , child-loving/enjoying liar ; see a problem there ?
I suppose not…………..
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:01 pmAh, the lack of back bone by anyone who speaks their mind in the Repukian Scum Machine is amazing.
The “20 Million” lemmings that service and swallow for Rush “the drug addict, Dominican Underage Boy Prostitute abuser” are of the borg, hive mentality and are too stupid to understand the lies he feeds them…
…my wife often tells me of encounters with them and is absolutely amazed at their stupidity and how they willingly swallow “Rush Gushers” without thinking at all.
FCUK THE REPUBLICANS
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:01 pmA criminal party lead by a criminal druggie!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 pmDr Matt, you need a different one for us teeny blogs. TP is SO special! :D
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 pmshhh,
can you hear it?
mike duncan’s laughing his ass off.
:)
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:06 pmNewt is so pissed…
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 pmAn entire political party, the Republican Party, is bowing down to a loud mouthed radio talk show host, who is a racist and a misogynistic drug addict. I’m almost embarrassed for them.
WOW! I’m convinced the 3mil ppl that listen to Rush on a daily basis are all wrapped to tight in their Snuggies
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 pmI was going to start giving odds on how long before Steele started begging his party leaders forgiveness.
Unfortunately he didn’t even give me a chance.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 pmI can’t believe this situation…The republicans truly have lost their way…
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:11 pmDon’t they have a clue? A drug addict making the chairman of the RNC bow to him?!!!!
Holy Shit..
NPR is going to have to revisit their story about the “spat”. Producers over there should have known better and let it sit for a day.
I have a bad feeling about Mr Steele. I think it won’t be long until he realizes he needs to spend a lot more time with his family.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:12 pmA wise man once said:
“Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot”
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:12 pmWell, I guess that clinches it. Limbaugh IS the Master of The Republican Universe. So they are now lead by someone with no constituency, unelected and only accountable to the bottom line. Perfect!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:12 pmis that a flip or a flop by michael steele?
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 pmZooey Says:
Dr Matt, you need a different one for us teeny blogs. TP is SO special! :D
Be sure to use something recognizably the same as Dr Matt, or at least let people know it’s you.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 pmI haven’t seen a party this enthusiastic to embrace a leader who is obviously insane and will lead them to utter ruin since a small German party backed a failed Austrian painter.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 pmBecause the right wingers worship Rush Limbaugh, this is all the proof we need to say aloud now confidence that their party is nothing but a bunch of Satan Worshipers.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 pmdbadass Says:
Newt is so pissed…
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he sure is db.
he lost a good and loyal friend
in mike steele, man of courage.
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March 2nd, 2009 at 7:14 pmLimbaugh has it wrong. Steele is officially the head of the Republican party.
Position description: “The Republican National Committee (RNC) provides national leadership for the Republican Party of the United States.” – Wikipedia
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:15 pmYep! And he’s on his way to becoming a U.S. Senator! We are lucky to have this wise man representing our great party. ;-)
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:16 pmnow all the tub-o-lard needs to do is marry batshit crazy bachmann to complete the repukelican “dream team”
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:16 pmYou gotta admit, the GOP may be circling the drain, but they’re puttin’ on a helluva show on the way down.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:16 pmi wonder if the repukies are warned not to go near tub-o-lard’s anal cyst when they kiss his ass?
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:20 pmAnd here I was mad at the Dems all those years for being empty suits. Goodby, Republican party. I won’t miss you.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:20 pmBut if the GOP prefers to give more attention to Limbaugh as the unofficial leader of their party, most Americans do have a negative opinion of Limbaugh. The GOP can have their used car sales men to show off the junk they’ve produced over the last eight years. Obama, on the other hand, is running huge surpluses in political capital.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:21 pmAttention all Republicans:
Whatever you do or say, do not make Rush mad at you. Think only happy thoughts about Rush.
Tell Rush, “It’s good that you spew such hatred and vitriol at the President. It’s a good thing that you want him and the nation to fail.”
Tell Rush that he represents all that is good and true in the land. Otherwise, he may wish you into the cornfield.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:22 pmAnd a caveman could have told us that gangsta Steele would get knocked down a peg by Limpnuts. This should give Steele a clue that the man who carries his winter weight yearly and the chief gasbag on radio is the new leader of the GOP and not him.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:25 pmI’ve already had a few, but even I can see what’s going on.
There are two camps: Limbaugh, and Gingrich. Steele, and other republicans with hopes of being elected sometime in the future, are in the Newt camp. Bomb-throwing wingnuts are in the other. The bomb throwers can do serious damage to the Newties, but the newts are politically neutered, as a result of the last election. Newties still must contend with the big money boys (BMB) throughout the whole election season, while the bombers give them the finger, except in the primaries. The BMB see Rush as a two-edged sword, and since his brand of conservatism has enabled their agenda in the past, they give him wide leeway, to do and say stupid things. But Limbaugh has strayed into their territory by attacking the stimulus package, and so must himself be attacked, lest his voice become the dominant one on the republican side. The Newties, stuck in the middle, are jumping around like scalded toads. Hence Steele’s Stomp/softshoe act.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:27 pmThe right has become fond of calling Obama a dictator, etc. But who is the real dictator? Rush controls the Republican Party and it’s idealogical policies without anyone ever casting a vote for him.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:28 pmwhat’s next? batshit crazy bachmann going on the news claiming she was wrong about stelle and claiming tub-o-lard “be da man, you be da man tub-o-lard”
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:28 pmROFL! All GOP leaders MUST bow down to the holy rotundness himself, the TRUE leader of all Rebpublicans! Rush Limbaugh! LOL!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:28 pmlabman57 Says:
I actually read that shortstory. It is even creepier than the Twilight Zone episode they made out of it.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:29 pmThe republican party has become nothing but a bunch of circus elephants holding each other’s tails and walking around in circles. Loving it!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:29 pmbarfly
Steele does softshoe well.
He might belong on Broadway by 2010 at this rate.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:29 pmThat’s what Rush loves so much. Having grown men bend over and grab their ankles for him.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:31 pmRahm Emanuel sure nuff said it! Rush Limbaugh is the voice of the Repugnican party! Anytime one of the Rethuglicans speak out against crazy a$$ Rush they always go and apologize for it! Again, if this is all these damn GOPers have – it’s saddddd!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:31 pmA leader is the guy being bowed to.
Not the guy doing the bowing.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:31 pmOMG — do the Republicans have ANY idea how entertaining this circus is for the rest of us? In a sort of demolition-derby way, of course.
One thing for sure — this entire pathetic display of Rush-groveling isn’t earning any respect from anybody who isn’t already a kool-aid drinker.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:33 pmblue state bob Says:
I haven’t seen a party this enthusiastic to embrace a leader who is obviously insane and will lead them to utter ruin since a small German party backed a failed Austrian painter.
The Republicans think history is skewed by liberal fantasy. That’s why Jonah Goldberg tries to tie fascism to the root of liberalism.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:34 pmI read earlier that the Republican party is in danger of losing a younger generation of voters.
So is this sideshow all part of the Republican master plan to attract more supporters and voters for their candidates?
More and more, this is resembling a very bad dysfunctional family reality TV show or an MTV special. But I don’t think it is getting them any voters.
My three 20-something children keep looking at me and my generation and wonder what the hell went wrong.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:34 pmNo trolls to defend Michael Steele?
No One Could Have Predicted™ that!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:35 pma three times divorced, impotent, addled drug addict is the best the repukies could find to lead them out of the wilderness? damn, they’re in worse shape than anyone ever guessed
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:35 pmIt sure does make the rushpublican primary system easier. Just nominate whoever Rush blesses.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:35 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
You gotta admit, the GOP may be circling the drain, but they’re puttin’ on a helluva show on the way down.
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more circling the bowl, ralph.
and having a epic “ben hur”
sea battle on the way down.
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“we keep you alive to serve this ship.
row well and live!”
;)
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:35 pmBut the main point I’m trying to make, is that there will be a lot more of the same next year, because the Newties still think they might succeed, if the stimulus fails – which their big money contributors DON’T want to happen.
It’s a weird, half-and-half strategy: appease the BMB, while making noises like a bomber.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:36 pm“Steele Bows Down To Limbaugh: ‘No Attempt On My Part To Diminish His Voice Or His Leadership’”
– - Drop the pretense Rush, and run for president in 2012. Pick your gal Palin for your veep. Put your money where you engorged fat mouth is.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:37 pmTired of being lied to Says:
I read earlier that the Republican party is in danger of losing a younger generation of voters.
Well the GOP already considers 65 to be 42, so I’m sure they’ll find some way to repackage abstinence as something else eventually.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:38 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
No trolls to defend Michael Steele?
No One Could Have Predicted™ that!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:35 pm
I thought you were trying to cut down…? :D
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:39 pmmore circling the bowl, ralph.
and having a epic “ben hur”
sea battle on the way down.
Kudos. I bow to the master.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:41 pmCan we just get this over with and get Limbaugh the nomination in 2012?
http://www.pufferfishblog.com/
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:41 pmYou guys sure have a hair up your butt over Rush, don’t you.
Rush Limbaugh has every right to talk as everyone else does. That is listed in the 1st admendment.
There is a switch on your radio called the on-off switch or you can change stations.
You don’t have to listen to him if you don’t like him.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:42 pmWhat are the chances that limpy will run in 2012? God we can only hope.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:42 pmdidn’t take long for the chair of the RNC to wrap his lips around Lumbaugh’s pipe and say “yessiree master rush!”
let’s see… Sarah Palin… a twelve-year old neocon “preacher”… Newt… and Rush… and THIS is the “face” / “future” of the republican party…
i say: let them keep going… they’re showing their “true colours” without any assistance from their detractors – you can’t make this shit up…
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 pmIm just glad to see he’s still packing it on, and smoking like a slant-six Plymouth.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:45 pmblclem,
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:45 pmwow, you really told us! guess i’ll just have to stop responding now. goodnight
SamJoe the whatever he is is so pissed
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:45 pmLardass is king, and everyone bows before him. These are supposed to be adults in important governmental positions, but they bend over and take it in the rear whenever the king is offended.
Oh well, this is another demonstration of the state of the GOP and it is not a pretty picture. No matter which way you look at it. I can’t say that I am unhappy about that.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:46 pmThe problem Clem, is his lying.
He lies, all the time, to everyone, about everything.
Free Speech and Fraud are different things.
It’s not about me not listening to him, it’s about the people who do, and believe him, and go out and vote against their own best interests, or worse still, go out and shoot up a church full of Unitarians because they believe what Rush told them – that they are the “victims” of brown, or foreign, or gay, or smart people.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:46 pmironically enough, when tub-o-lard was giving his speech at cpac the other night, he chose to wear all black since we all know black is slimming.
Memo to rush: there’s not enough black in the world to make 450 pounds on a 5 foot six frame look thin.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 pmThese “men” have no sense of self-respect or honor. No wonder they gleefully acquiesced to Bush’s destruction of the constitution. Their “loyalty” and “patriotism” is simply defined as follow the leader.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:48 pmThank god Tracy isn’t here. Didn’t she waste the entire day not beinf able to answer that question.
Limbaugh’s the man. If you like fat, drug addicted, child molesting, misogynistic, racists, lie telling, anti american, facist aholes.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:48 pmblclem Says:
You guys sure have a hair up your butt over Rush, don’t you.
Rush Limbaugh has every right to talk as everyone else does. That is listed in the 1st admendment.
There is a switch on your radio called the on-off switch or you can change stations.
You don’t have to listen to him if you don’t like him.
>>>>
Does the IRONY of you post escape you?
All Americans have every right to say what they please, eh, including those posting here, pointing out Rush Addict’s inane leadership of the GOP…eh? LOL
And you have the right to not read it if you don’t like it….
Yet, here you are…eh?
LMFAO
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:48 pmblclem Says:
You guys sure have a hair up your butt over Rush, don’t you….
You don’t have to listen to him if you don’t like him.
– - Thank you, Captain Obvious. Move along now, and please, hesitate to come again.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:49 pmsorry O/T:
Obama releases secret Bush anti-terror memos
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration threw open the curtain on years of Bush-era secrets Monday, revealing anti-terror memos that claimed exceptional search-and-seizure powers and divulging that the CIA destroyed nearly 100 videotapes of interrogations and other treatment of terror suspects.
The Justice Department released nine legal opinions showing that, following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Bush administration determined that certain constitutional rights would not apply during the coming fight. Within two weeks, government lawyers were already discussing ways to wiretap U.S. conversations without warrants.
The Bush administration eventually abandoned many of the legal conclusions, but the documents themselves had been closely held. By releasing them, President Barack Obama continued a house-cleaning of the previous administration’s most contentious policies.
“Too often over the past decade, the fight against terrorism has been viewed as a zero-sum battle with our civil liberties,” Attorney General Eric Holder said in a speech a few hours before the documents were released. “Not only is that school of thought misguided, I fear that in actuality it does more harm than good.”
link
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:50 pmAll repugs should be embarrassed that the leader of their party is a drug addled, misogynistic, morality challenged, lying loudmouth — they look like the fools they are for letting this continue.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:50 pmHahahaha.
I haven’t been this entertained since the Palin TV interviews. It’s so much fun to watch the Republican party get dragged down by monsters of their own creation! I sense a schism coming!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:51 pmThis from Michelle Malkins website.
Stop me if I’m wrong, but is Michelle Malkin suggesting that Limbaugh IS the leader of the party?
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:51 pmYou don’t have to listen to him if you don’t like him.
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March 2nd, 2009 at 7:51 pmI don’t but that doesn’t mean I can’t point out what a blob of crap he seems to be
Badmoodman Says: #68
Rush can’t run for president or anything else for that matter. Of course he would lose and he knows it. He also has way too many skeletons in his closet. Fear and smear is on it’s way out and I think its great that most republican boot-lickers don’t realize it.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:54 pmDNFP,
I’ve read that the illegal spying started well before 9/11. I guess prior, he was just spying on democrats and when he had to widen his spying powers to everyday americans he had to come up with some legal justification.
whoops, off topic.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:55 pmI sense a schism coming!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:55 pm—
That goofball Barr already has the goofy Libertarian thing tied up so what options do they have? What was that moronic party that Buchanon briefly got tied up with? You know the one that wanted to execute adulturers. Man if their not so big tent splits will they be forced into sleeping under the bridge?
From DFNP’s link:
“The CIA can now identify the number of videotapes that were destroyed,” said the letter submitted in that case by Acting U.S. Attorney Lev Dassin. “Ninety-two videotapes were destroyed.”
Any bets that there are more than these 92 in existence?
Remember Abu Ghraib?
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:56 pmFrom Anchor Baby Malkin, via Waynebro:
Steele’s comments, first noticed by NBC producer Chris Donovan, are sure to rankle Limbaugh in part because they validate the liberal critique of the conservative force: that he’s merely an “entertainer.”
That’s one of the phrases often used by Democrats who seek to diminish Limbaugh. MSNBC’s liberal talk-show host Keith Olbermann, for example, frequently mocks his broadcast adversary as “comedian Rush Limbaugh.”
Uh… excuuuse me?
The folks I most frequently hear describe Rush as an “entertainer” are right-wingers trying to defend him against some shit he’s said, whether incendiary, racist or just flat factually wrong.
“He’s an entertainer” they wail, as a means of distinguishing him from a journalist who might otherwise be held to some standards of integrity and accuracy.
Senator Al Franken (D-MN) is an entertainer. Limbaugh is just a blow-hard.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:57 pmLimbaugh, Palin, Kudlow, Jindal, Wurzelbacher (Joe t P) are all considering running for office — I can hardly wait!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:00 pmJK
Rush Rules Idiots.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:01 pmMan if their not so big tent splits will they be forced into sleeping under the bridge?
I don’t know but I can’t wait to see. I just can’t see the old guard Republicans reconciling with the increasingly nutty Dittohead faction. What i think will happen is that eventually, in order to keep the brand name, Ditto heads will be thrown under the bus and they will try and rebuild without them. The Dittoheads will essentially create their own party or splinter off into smaller already existing fringe parties.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:02 pmBest post of the day.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:03 pmApparently.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:03 pmI think that is more Ron Paul’s turf. He has the dedicated following and the financial swagger to do serious damage if he wanted to.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:03 pmThe Republican party is officially ruled by a shock jock, LOL. Prank phone calls and hooker interviews are just the things to secure those value voters.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:03 pmHi John Kerry
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:04 pmHow does it feel to have gone from collosal pussy to sideshow act in such a short time?
Mr. Steele, you must be out of your mind to call Rush Limbaugh an ‘entertainer’.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:04 pmDidn’t you see his coronation party by Republicans..?
I love that picture of the guy.
Porky Pig in a dress suit, and his Steele Factotum
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:04 pmI OWN JOHN KERRY
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:07 pmWhat kind of a political party is this that has been taken over by a big mouth radio man called Limbaugh?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:08 pmSeriously though, I’m trying to wrap my mind around this and understand it. Rush is a single extremist – many, many standard deviations off the chart. How can a national political organization survive and appeal to anyone else if it keeps bowing to the fatted calf ?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:08 pmIt is all to the good of the dem’s. How can they lose with the porker leading the lemmings?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:09 pmSomeone should do a collage of old robber baron cartoons and matching images of Rush, with cigar of course.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:10 pmWhile everything about Rush Limbaugh really is quite pathetic, what I don’t understand is why a website whose claimed impetus is progress, and that seems well aware of Limbaugh’s lack of value (in every sense of the word) continues to bombard the populous with articles pertaining to him and his most ridiculous antics. It’s hardly progressive, unless one is searching for the most clever one liners denigrating Rush. It’s more like political Jerry Springer than anything substantive and informational.
The problem isn’t Rush, the problem is that while the media (including this website) should be more concerned with informing the public regarding subjects, incidents, and people that affect us, and doing so in an objective matter, they’re far more concerned with RATINGS (ie. money).
Stop giving this gas bag air time, start focusing on real politics, and maybe he’ll go away!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:10 pmThis is the unmasking of the republican party. The essence of all their nonsense, greed, and hatred for all to see. That’s all.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:11 pmSecond best post of the day.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:12 pmdbadass Says:
I OWN JOHN KERRY
– - Oh, so you’re bankrupt.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:13 pmBlackhawk, this is more about Steele, the head of the RNC, caving and sucking Rush’s dick, not anything that Rush said in particular. Completely newsworthy and worth spreading the word about.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 pmLimbaugh is obviously intent on taking the Republicans to the far right, Neocon end of the spectrum. If the mainstream Republicans are going to have a self-respecting shot, they are going to have to take him down a notch or two. I see these possible scenarios; 1)Republicans cooperate with Democrats on de-consolidating the media marketplace and let the free market eat into Limbaugh’s ratings. 2)Republicans (dressed as liberals) leak something very embarrassing or criminal on Limbaugh. His ratings suffer. 3)Republicans go to Limbaugh privately with said embarrassment/criminality and urge him to reconsider his extreme positions. He has a sudden change of heart. 4) The small private jet Limbaugh uses for his next sexcation to the Dominican Republican collides with a “flock of birds” and makes a fiery nose first landing in a remote patch of jungle. There are no survivors. Bets anyone?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:15 pmDid I miss the thread about the Blackwater dude/CEO/founder resigning?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:15 pmBlog post over on the RNC’s website:
I SUPPORT MICHAEL STEELE
Here’s the link to check out the comments to this post (might have to scroll up to read them):
http://steeleforchairman.com/index.php?option=com_myblog&show=I-Support-Michael-Steele.html&Itemid=126#comments
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:19 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
While everything about Rush Limbaugh really is quite pathetic, what I don’t understand is why a website whose claimed impetus is progress, and that seems well aware of Limbaugh’s lack of value (in every sense of the word) continues to bombard the populous with articles pertaining to him and his most ridiculous antics.
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First of all, it’s “populace”.
Second, there are many other threads on this site about other people, events and issues. Rush does happen to be in the news right now, whether or not you like it. He has become the face of the GOOP and will continue to draw attention.
I personally think it’s good to cover him and what he says, and point out the endless lies. He is a dangerous demagogue at this time.
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It’s hardly progressive, unless one is searching for the most clever one liners denigrating Rush.
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The fact that people, including me… heh… post a lot of snarky comments isn’t the point of the site, or covering Rush. It… just… happens. If you don’t like, skip the Rush threads and especially don’t read the comments.
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It’s more like political Jerry Springer than anything substantive and informational.
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What’cha gonna do… people are people.
The problem isn’t Rush, the problem is that while the media (including this website) should be more concerned with informing the public regarding subjects, incidents, and people that affect us, and doing so in an objective matter, they’re far more concerned with RATINGS (ie. money).
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This sit DOES attempt to inform the public. Again, if you don’t like reading about Rush, SKIP the Rush threads. It’s really kind of simple.
BTW, TP is funded by a non-profit organization.
If you really want policy, try the Wonk Room.
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Stop giving this gas bag air time, start focusing on real politics, and maybe he’ll go away!
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See… that’s the REAL problem… Rush won’t go away. All the “liberal” sites on the Internets could quit covering Rush today, and he’d STILL be out there, spewing his lies. Someobdy needs to keep track of them and debunk them.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:20 pmThe uneducated, college flunk out, drug addled, three time divorced, gas bag, comedian is running the GOP. I love it.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:21 pmkasinca Says:
The uneducated, college flunk out, drug addled, three time divorced, gas bag, comedian is running the GOP. I love it.
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Righto… the face of “compassionate conservatism” circa 2009…
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:27 pmThanks for your thoughts, Blackhawk Mike.
We’ll take them under advisement.
Meantime, have you met TRoS… oh, I see you have. Good. He’s sharp, ain’t he?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:27 pmOT, OT, OT
repugs don’t have a leg to stand on.
More of chimpy’s crookism (thank Judge Mathis!)
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:28 pmQuick someone throw an oxy on the floor so limpydic can be distracted.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:28 pm“So I am an entertainer and I have 20 million listeners because of my great song and dance routine…”
That’s funny Rush, because so does Hannah Montana.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:32 pmsmoking like a slant-six Plymouth
Hey, barfly, I had a slant-six Plymouth Scamp, and she never smoked. Jeez, you couldn’t kill that engine with an ax!
Back on topic: I can only imagine what Rs would say if the situation were reversed, if Dems were idolizing, ass-kissing, forelock-tugging, or generally kowtowing, to such a toad as Rush. How they cannot see that they’re signing their own political death-warrants is beyond me. I wouldn’t want any such wussy follower-type to represent me!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:32 pmOh, yes, Finn you are absolutely correct. My comment was more a general observation of the situation that leads to the things that seem to give Limbaugh more power, such as Steele backing down from his comments. The situation I am reffering to, I believe, being the constant media attention Limbaugh gets. I agree that this particular piece of news is worth reporting, but at the same time, I believe Rush (and others extremists out there) wouldn’t have anywhere near the clout they do if it weren’t for the media and the attention they pay to these extremists.
I believe that it’s a fundamental problem with the media today (one that again stems from the desire to make money rather than to report fairly and objectively), and not only does it lead to giving whales like Rush more validity and power, but it also leads to creating biases about the people these extremists claim to represent, at least among the ignorant. For instance, Osama Bin Laden is NOT representative of most muslims, nor is Limbaugh of most republicans, nor is Valerie Solanas of most feminists (those are just some examples).
I would certainly agree that Steele is being a bit of a wimp, but to me that really isn’t the big problem here.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:33 pmJane E. Schneider Says:
Back on topic: I can only imagine what Rs would say if the situation were reversed, if Dems were idolizing, ass-kissing, forelock-tugging, or generally kowtowing, to such a toad as Rush.
Except then they wouldn’t be Democrats, they’d be Republicans. Sheesh.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:36 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
I believe that it’s a fundamental problem with the media today (one that again stems from the desire to make money rather than to report fairly and objectively), and not only does it lead to giving whales like Rush more validity and power, but it also leads to creating biases about the people these extremists claim to represent, at least among the ignorant. For instance, Osama Bin Laden is NOT representative of most muslims, nor is Limbaugh of most republicans
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Actually, I think Rush IS closer to being representative of most Republicans.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:37 pmJ.K. & Blackhawk,
Wow, two such patriotic names. If republicans had any good ideas in theory or practice I’d be a republican.
But since they don’t, I’m not. Never have been, never will be.
It works in future tense too. Republicans will never have any good ideas in theory or practice – as long as they let scum of the earth run their party.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:38 pmHow many years have the Republicans stated Dems were weak, weak on everything? Now that same party is just a pathetic, whining, group of hypocrites. This fat, drug addicted, hate jock has reduced the GOP party to a bunch of weak, whimpering hypocrites. If it wasn’t so pathetic, it would be funny.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 pmblackhawk,
i like goofing on limbaugh
so sue me.
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jk and some other clod,
that’s the best we’ve done so far?
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where are the trolls?
:)
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:43 pmBlackhawkMike: “Why…bombard the populous with articles pertaining to him and his most ridiculous antics.”
How about because he still has a pulpit and his attitudes reflect and influence a sizable voting bloc. 20 million listeners, is it?.
Well let’s assume that counts for 10 million votes. Ignoring him won’t make him go away.
He is currently the ‘Pope’ of the GOP. As with the 2000 election and 2004, ignoring the ‘nut-job’ conservatives will lead to complacency.
Rush thrives on the attention, and we should giove it to him because he’s painting himself and the conservatives into a corner if Obama/Democrat policies bring improvements (which they should).
Bush was Rush’s man. Then Palin was his Great White Hope. The more attention he gets the more reactionary he will become, he’s already demonstrated that.
Christ it’s been one month and you want us all to ignore the Right-Wing Noise machine that helped bring down Clinton and that kept Bush in the White House for 2 terms? Think about it.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:43 pmHi Aquarius,
It is a little funny.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 pmTRoS, I agree that it’s important to point out the flaws and lies his arguments and supposed beliefs. But again, I don’t think this would be necessary had not so much attention been paid to him in the first place. This is my point.
Nor do I believe pointing out these lies is going to result in informing anyone who doesn’t already know on such a one-sided site (it’s spelled s-i-t-e, good, can we stop correcting each other’s mis-spellings now?). I’d venture a guess that the gross majority of readers of this site are already very well aware of just how much of an ass Rush is, and those that don’t (ie. republicans) are going to be so offended by the divisive nature of this site that they’re really not going to pay much mind, even if you’ve all the proof in the world that what Rush is saying is a lie.
Finally, skipping the articles and comments appropos Rush simply because I don’t like them is akin to ignoring the problem. I’d rather address it and voice my opinion, expressing what I believe is right and best for our nation in an effort to move us in a more positive direction. Frankly, complacency such as you suggest I ought to do bears a great deal of responsibility for the situation we now find ourselves in.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:50 pmblackhawk,
from digby:
(she’s a really smart gal)
But he is, as some of us have been pointing for years, the true leader of the Republican Party and we were told that he was a harmless, mainstream entertainer and we should all just lighten up, even as luminaries of the Republican party and the luminaries of the conservative movement bowed and scraped like abused streetwalkers at the feet of their violent pimp. They defended his comments about Abu Ghraib, fergawdsake. He can literally do no wrong.
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i like.
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March 2nd, 2009 at 8:50 pmsorry, more here.
:)
good stuff.
:)
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 pmCan someone list out all the charities Rush Limbaugh gives his money to?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:53 pmIsn’t this like one of the signs? Is daryll still nude in that chair in the corner? I am thinking all kinds of crazy biblical shit is upon us…
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pmKayInMaine Says:
Can someone list out all the charities Rush Limbaugh gives his money to?
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well, there’s the “limbaugh fund”
for little boys…
and uh,
the others.
(somebody help me here)
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March 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pmI say Steele is out before the end of the year. Gimme odds. Is there a pool?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pmI was but a one of the magnitudes of concerned espn viewers who sent e-mails regarding a certain pompous ass they had working for them. Do you need to ask how that worked out for that certain pompous ass?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pmI’ll just bet that if Steele actually did divest the RNC of the conservative wingnuts of the party, it might attract back the moderate and liberal republicans that have all turned independent since 2004.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:57 pmsuch a one-sided site (it’s spelled s-i-t-e, good, can we stop correcting each other’s mis-spellings now?)
Which is why TRoS spelled it S-I-T-E…
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:58 pmROTFL! STOP IT I CAN’T LAUGH ANYMORE! MY SIDES ACHE! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE LET RUSH AND PALIN RUN IN 2012.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 pmDominican Republic Children’s Fund
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 pmBetty Ford Clinic
Cigar Smokers’ Rights Group
Misogynists United
Oxycontin Abusers Anonymous
Erectile Dysfunctional Fund
WeightWatchers
BlackhawkMilke: For instance, Osama Bin Laden is NOT representative of most muslims, nor is Limbaugh of most republicans
Well Mike. Limbaugh has a reported audience of 20 million. None of them are Democrats for sure.
Rush hosts Republican representatives on his show all the time, because he’s got the ear of millions of Republican voting ditto-heads.
Michael Steele, who is the chair of the RNC, just kissed Rush’s ass.
The RNC defines the GOP because they decide which candidates to support. Steele just defined Rush as being more important than the RNC chair.
ERGO, Rush DOES represent the GOP now.
Are you a Libertarian by any chance, wishing that the current GOP disarray could be ignored so that you will have a more viable party to vote for in the next couple of cycles?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 pmKayInMaine Says:
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Can someone list out all the charities Rush Limbaugh gives his money to?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Joe’s All-You-Can-Eat buffet and every pharmaceutical company …………
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 pmI wonder how long it will be before we see band breakup syndrome where the conservatives and the more moderate republicans are in court suing for the rights of the Trade Mark for the Republican Party. What we are watching is the beginning of the Donner Party. Bon Appetit!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 pmbullit4u Says:
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republicans hate facts Says:
bullit4u Says:
hi
Well HELLO you scared little Republican p**sy ;)
We can see you’re here to BOW DOWN to the Junkie Jester in Charge of the Ship of Fools (Rush) along with Steele! ;)
hey girlfriend miss me?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Probably about as much as one misses jock itch , jackass ……..
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 pmAh yes, let’s just act more mature and not get into name calling or confrontation. Let’s all rise above the anti american Rush and his millions of followers. Let’s take the high road, certainly enough people of good will see the light and head correct the situation.
Blackhawk, what bullshi*. I’m sure that’s what a lot of people thought when the nazi’s were just a dream in a drunken little maniacs mind.
Tell that to my mother who was a refugee from europe during the war.
If your such a patriot, having taken such a name and all, you should know better. Anyone here that wants to slam Rush should go for it full throttle. Hopefully some of it will spill into the mainstream media and that cretin can crawl back into whatever blackhole corner he came out of.
If your not sure of this yet, why don’t you ask some church goers in Tennessee and the students from Chile in Florida?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 pm*Scanning the thread*
Uh ha! Just as I thought….
…the only charities A** Limbo gives to concern himself and not to the little children as the right wingers like to give the impression that he does!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 pmWe spent a lot of energy ragging on Harry and Nancy for spineless behavior the last couple of years, but they come out looking like Chuck Norris compared to the Republicans. They’re like yappy little dogs that run out and bark at the big dog and then scuttle back under the couch and pee on the rug in fear.
Of course, I’m happy to see them neutered by the giant gas bag; it just assures they have less credibility every minute.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 pmWhoops, It seems I made some errors, but not in intent. o.k. guys.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 pmDonner….party of twenty
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 pmDonner….party of twenty
“hey girlfriend miss me?” Be careful now, you may have to turn in your homophobe credentials.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 pmMY GOD! WHAT’S NEXT? RING- KISSING THE JUNKIE PIG?
FELLATING HIM? IN PUBLIC?
YOU PEOPLE (REPUBLICANS) KNOW NO SHAME.
YOU DESERVE TO LOSE, PERMANANTLY.
HEY REPUBLI-SCUM-
GUESS WHAT? FAT-ASS IS A CONVICTED, DRUG, FELON.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 pmTHAT-IS-WHY-HIS-FAT, PERVERTED ASS WAS SENT TO SECONDARY WHEN HE ENTERED THE U.S. AFTER THE “BOYS’ TRIP” TO THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC.
Seems the ignored seek other waterholes when in need of attention. Good to know. It makes it so much easier.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 pmI thought the log cabin was full up?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 pmbullit4u Says:
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MCMetal Says:
bullit4u Says:
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republicans hate facts Says:
bullit4u Says:
hi
Well HELLO you scared little Republican p**sy ;)
We can see you’re here to BOW DOWN to the Junkie Jester in Charge of the Ship of Fools (Rush) along with Steele! ;)
hey girlfriend miss me?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Probably about as much as one misses jock itch , jackass ……..
well sweetie i hope your yeast infection clears up for you
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm
No need for you to show any (phony) concern ; your mom and sister applied themselves very well , jerkoff…….
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 pm5th Estate, you make a good argument for certain. And perhaps you are right, perhaps it is simply too late to ignore him.
I would argue, however, that ignoring him WOULD make him go away. He is a radio shock jock, and they keep their jobs because of ratings.
And do you really think those 10-20 million listeners and supporters are really going to log on here and learn anything from a site whose articles and comments constantly blasts they’re beliefs? Absolutely not! They’re going to be insulted, and rightfully so.
And this ties in to my final point: I believe we should be looking foward, not backward. I believe, as our president has said, that we should be focusing on unity rather than division. I believe we should show republicans, libertarians, moderates (like myself if you couldn’t tell), liberals, and everyone else with differing opinions, the same respect we would want them to have of us. It is this respect for all that has a much better chance of propogating the understanding we need and that would truly allow others to be willing to look and see just what kind of ass Limbaugh is.
Of course, you’d always have some extremists out there.
And don’t me wrong, Limbaugh is ripe for joking, and I’m all for it. What I’m pretty certain is wrong and counter-progressive is attacking all Republicans, or all of any group of people for that matter, simply because they don’t share the same beliefs. Some of the best people I know are conservatives and liberals, and both of them deserve the same respect we all do. After all, it IS possible to disagree, to have a debate, but to do so in a respectful manner. Is it not? THAT, my friends, is progress! At least, that’s what I think.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
TRoS, I agree that it’s important to point out the flaws and lies his arguments and supposed beliefs. But again, I don’t think this would be necessary had not so much attention been paid to him in the first place. This is my point.
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It’s a good point, and unfortunately for you and me both, that train left the station a loooong time ago. I kinda wish (what the hell… I’m FURIOUS…) that so many people won’t think for themselves and pay closer attention to what someone like Limbaugh is saying, or what their elected officials are doing on either side of the aisle.
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Nor do I believe pointing out these lies is going to result in informing anyone who doesn’t already know on such a one-sided site (it’s spelled s-i-t-e, good, can we stop correcting each other’s mis-spellings now?).
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Heh… just my way of making sure people are actually paying attention… and zoot alors… you are!
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I’d venture a guess that the gross majority of readers of this site are already very well aware of just how much of an ass Rush is, and those that don’t (ie. republicans) are going to be so offended by the divisive nature of this site that they’re really not going to pay much mind, even if you’ve all the proof in the world that what Rush is saying is a lie.
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I understand the point you’re making, Mike. We, the posting community here, don’t get to choose what goes up here. The Admin does. It’s their site.
I wish Limbaugh would just GO… AWAY… but that’s not very realistic, is it?
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Finally, skipping the articles and comments appropos Rush simply because I don’t like them is akin to ignoring the problem. I’d rather address it and voice my opinion, expressing what I believe is right and best for our nation in an effort to move us in a more positive direction. Frankly, complacency such as you suggest I ought to do bears a great deal of responsibility for the situation we now find ourselves in.
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It’s actually not complacency. As someone who’s been hanging around here for almost two years, I can only tell how many folks pass thru here making comments like yours and take liberty to hector the posters for parts of this process we can[t control. It just gets old after a while.
You’d think people like that mayor in So CA last week who sent out the watermelon postcard would know better. But apparently he didn’t. I am EXHAUSTED from watching such insane nonsense. if it weren’t for the Internets, I suspect that guy might still be the mayor down there.
We need to keep exposing these frauds for what they are. Yeaaaaah… this site can be polarizing. Ever try Free Republic or LGF? At least we don’t talk all that “itchy trigger finger” nonsense here. I gotta admit… I like gettin’ my snark on from time to time…
What’s the difference between complacency and accepting reality?
Just because you honestly acknowledge people behave the way you do, it doesn’t mean you’re complacent. And if you’re not dealing w/ an honest appraisal of human behavior, you don’t stand a chance of getting anything done.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 pmbullit4u Says:
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MCMetal Says:
No need for you to show any (phony) concern ; your mom and sister applied themselves very well , jerkoff…….
ahh aren’t you a sweet thing
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Your mom and sister certainly seem to believe so…….
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 pmPresident Obama = Harvard Law Review President, Constitutional Law Professor, IL State Senator, US Senator, President of the USA
Rush Limpbone = High School Graduate, College flunk out, drug addict, radio entertainer.
Which party has the leader?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 pmbullit4u Says:
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once again weenies liberalism generates the complete opposite of what is was intended
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Yet , Cancervatism did exactly what it was designed to do ……Fu(k everything up completely…….
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:15 pmbullit4u Says:
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keep repeating it it will sink in and you will be cured
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Lying to yourself (and everyone else) repeatedly doesn’t change reality …….
The previous administration is proof positive of that.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 pmMcMetal.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 pmFreeze this clown
to paraphrase the greatest sportscaster of all time:
“DOWN GOES BLACKHAWK! DOWN GOES BLACKHAWK!”
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 pmbelac Says:
such a one-sided site (it’s spelled s-i-t-e, good, can we stop correcting each other’s mis-spellings now?)
Which is why TRoS spelled it S-I-T-E…
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No… he got me… I dropped the “e” on one usage… heh…
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 pmWe need to recoginize Rush for the dangerous hate monger he is.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 pmRush is the Archie Bunker for a new generation.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:19 pmbullit, I just curious, what is it with you and your hatred for liberals? I mean really, where would we be right now without them. No America, no Martin Luther, or any other reformist, or even that one guy, you know, in Israel.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 pmRush is the Charels Manson of conservatives
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 pmThe republicans are so gutless. I watched 1600 Penn. Ave. and David Shuester tried for several minutes to get a republican hack to say he disagreed with Limbaugh, and could not get a straight answer out of him. Welcome to the party of ethical invertebrates.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 pmRich H, I am a patriot, and I am Jewish, and I don’t think for one moment that Limbaugh comes close to being comporable to Hitler. I served my country in Iraq. I have seen war. I have seen evil, on BOTH sides. I have lost my friends and my family while there. I have seen the worst this world has to offer while I served in the infantry in B Trp, 1/7 Cav in Baghdad. This is why I believe what I believe. That’s fine if you disagree, but what do you hope to accomplish by calling it bullshi*?
That said, I really don’t understand the argument you are trying to make here. Are you advocating hatred?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 pmbelac Says:
such a one-sided site (it’s spelled s-i-t-e, good, can we stop correcting each other’s mis-spellings now?)
This isn’t a one-sided “sight”, all views, with exceptions for racist or obscene, are accepted and engaged. If you’re upset that no one buys your right wing whiny boohoos, head over to redstate, you’ll be welcome there.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:23 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
Rich H, I am a patriot, and I am Jewish, and I don’t think for one moment that Limbaugh comes close to being comporable to Hitler. I served my country in Iraq. I have seen war. I have seen evil, on BOTH sides. I have lost my friends and my family while there. I have seen the worst this world has to offer while I served in the infantry in B Trp, 1/7 Cav in Baghdad. This is why I believe what I believe. That’s fine if you disagree, but what do you hope to accomplish by calling it bullshi*?
That said, I really don’t understand the argument you are trying to make here. Are you advocating hatred?
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heck no, weight loss.
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March 2nd, 2009 at 9:23 pmI am confused. Was Charles Manson… Hitler?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 pmBlackhawk, first of all, thank for your service, and I agree, Rush is nothing like Hitler. Hitler was able to send an entire country into lunacy, Rush can only get 20 million.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 pmSorry about the typos, I’m tired, I’ve been in school all day and all night.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:26 pmBlackhawk, I’m sorry you served for a lie in Iraq. I enlisted in the Marines out of high school. Though it wasn’t war time so perhaps you’ve seen more than I.
However, when a blowhard like Rush gets to spout hate whenever he wants and as long as theres lunatics in this country who act on that hate and kill innocent people. There is a comparison, even on a minor scale.
Perhaps you don’t read the papers. Perhaps you don’t know that the two killers involved were Rush and Hannity fans.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:27 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
Rich H, I am a patriot, and I am Jewish, and I don’t think for one moment that Limbaugh comes close to being comporable to Hitler
I know you’re not talking to me, but check out the link I’m providing and listen to what rush has to say.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/374375.stm
And think about what kind of radio news the Pentagon gave you in Iraq. Was there even one liberal voice on Armed Forces Radio?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:28 pmThe Republic of Stupidity Says:
belac Says:
such a one-sided site (it’s spelled s-i-t-e, good, can we stop correcting each other’s mis-spellings now?)
Which is why TRoS spelled it S-I-T-E…
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No… he got me… I dropped the “e” on one usage… heh…
Dropping an “e” is a typing error. “Populous” is a misspelling. The internet, in my opinion, has turfed proper language. Not that it matters, you read “Populous” and can infer “Populace” without even missing a beat. Our brains are freaking amazing.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 pmdbadass,
Manson wasn’t Hitler, Rush is like Manson. Crazy, drug addicted and able and willing to send some of his followers on killing sprees against innocent victims.
O.k. I know I’m stretching it, but I’m making a point. You don’t make anything better by ignoring it and hoping it goes away.
Like some have suggested.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 pmBy listen to what rush has to say, I mean listen to the hate he spews each and every day and think about the story I linked to. It’ not that far a step between the two.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 pmIt’s the Amos and Oxy Show.
-GSD
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:31 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
And do you really think those 10-20 million listeners and supporters are really going to log on here and learn anything from a site whose articles and comments constantly blasts they’re beliefs? Absolutely not! They’re going to be insulted, and rightfully so.
Indeed of course they won’t. BUT Limbaugh gets press BEYOND his radio show and he gets private access to Republicans and theior events like CPAC. THAT stuff gets reported-on or at least mentioned on TV and in print and on the web.
With 80% of the country hoping Obama succeeds and then hearing that Limbaugh wants Obama to Fail—which he said on his radio show and then repeated at the CPAC—WHICH THE MSM was forced to mention because outfits like Think Progress reported it precisely and HIGHLIGHTED, it forces the MSM to report on it also, and there are Independents out there who are an important voting bloc who won’t subscribe to TP or Limbaugh, so if they get the news through the MSM then they ARE informed and may be influenced–by THE TRUTH, I should add.
Oh and by the way, my idea of a ’shock-jock’ would be Howard Stern whose guests are usually strippers and porn-stars, not someone who has the chair of the RNC and several GOP politicians genuflucting before him after they have ‘misspoken’.
Not someone who has boasted for years about his Republican contacts, who had Cheney and others on his show numerous times.
Limbaugh isn’t a shock-jock, he’s a political operative and a very powerful one in GOP circles, and that makes him a national figure and thus worth paying attention to.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:32 pmIf he matters so much to the GOP that they have to kiss his ass and apologize for disagreeing with him, then he matters.
Rich H
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 pmI understood what you said. I was referencing the first sentence of Blackhawk’s @ 178.
Rich, Manson never urged masses of people to riot like rush did during the Democratic Convention in Denver. Manson never advocated civil war like rush did last week. Manson is screwed up. Manson is in Jail. Rush is the pope of a political movement that can bring down this country.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 pmI can’t listen to Rush. It breaks my heart to see one person subtract so much from the sum of human knowledge.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
Rich H, I am a patriot, and I am Jewish, and I don’t think for one moment that Limbaugh comes close to being comparable to Hitler.
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I dunno…
***TRoS scratches his head and frowns…***
We covered this just the other day. Hitler started out w/ a half dozen drunken supporters in a Munich beer hall and almost destroyed the world. The righties like to claim Rush has a radio audience of 20 million.
Perhaps Rush isn’t calling for wholesale bloodshed… yet, but… he is the de facto leader of a group of people who have openly called for the gassing and poisoning of judges and the stringing up of reporters from light poles.
They like to call this “free speech”, or ‘entertainment”, depending on the crowd they’re playing to.
He isn’t critical of the ones who say these things. Isn’t he condoning their words by NOT speaking up?
Glenn Beck did a show on Fox last week about possible scenarios of the coming “civil war”. Sean Hannity ran a poll on what form the “resistance” will most like take – militias? States seceding? Outright war?
Atkisson – the Tennessee church shooter from last fall had Hannity’s and Savage’s books back in his apartment. He LAUGHED at his sentencing. He sure wanted to kill himself some libruls, huh?
Do I need to go on?
These folks are scary and dangerous. Know what country is the leading purveyor of Neo-Nazi literature in the world today? Yep. The European countries that actually HAD to deal w/ the Nazis think we’re a bit touched to condone it the way we do.
Id Rush Hitler? No… not yet. But I don’t think he, or someone else on the right, is all that far from becoming him either.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:36 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
And do you really think those 10-20 million listeners and supporters are really going to log on here and learn anything from a site whose articles and comments constantly blasts they’re beliefs? Absolutely not! They’re going to be insulted, and rightfully so.
So you’re arguing that we should treat a loudmouth bully with more respect than he’s willing to give back? That worked well for John Kerry, didn’t it.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:36 pmtLVoR, you are very welcome. It was an honor to serve. And I must say that even those 20 million aren’t hell bent on murdering other groups of people such as the nazis were. I know a lot of people here would really like to believe that Rush is loved by most republicans, but he really isn’t. Believe me, in my service I came across QUITE a LOT of republicans, and most really did recognize him for the divisive gas bag that he is. The reason I think so many people here would like to believe this of Rush is that it makes it much easier to hate all republicans.
TRoS, thank you SO MUCH for your respectful response! This is what I am looking for. I’d still argue that there really isn’t so much “exposing” going on here given that this site is clearly subjective and opinion based. When I happen upon any site like this, regardless of their socio-political platform, I take what they say with a grain of salt. God knows I have come across plenty of super right wing sites that make outstanding arguments against democrats.
Perhaps what really makes this site progressive is that it acts as a cathartic punching bag for the left?? Maybe it’s good that some just get that anger out. But I tell ya’, I do find it disconcerting that one can’t look on the comment section of any site without finding some seriously ugly crap being thrown at people. I just wonder where we, as humans, are really going.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:37 pmflagged #194. Please do not respond, please do not copy and respond. Please flag the troll and move on.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:39 pmKeith
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:40 pmTwnety might be bit high, I think when the cleaning staff arrived at CPAC, they found a lot of gnawed bones. I figured Malkin alone could have eaten at least a six-pack of not so happy meals on the hoof. Plus add in the casualties from Coulter and Rush during the key swap party and the amount of carnage could be mind-blowing.
Bobwurst #192,
I totally agree with you. I was toning it down so you all wouldn’t think I was crazy.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:42 pmWhen one thinks of Rush, you also think of Hanity, Beck, Savage, O’Rielly, I mean I can go on, but can you think of one left wing pundit in that category? I know not all republicans like Rush, I just never hear from them.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:42 pmThe reason I think so many people here would like to believe this of Rush is that it makes it much easier to hate all republicans.
Then it’s up to republicans to stand up and be counted. The whole point of this thread is that the leader of the republican party went running with his tail between his legs to kiss rush’s butt after he’d had the nerve to claim that as the head of the republican party, he’s the head of the republican party.
Liberals don’t do that. Remember President Johnson? Liberals, dirty hippie liberals, hounded him out of office. He wasn’t supported because he was in power, he was h eld to a standard. Until republicans start holding their leaders to the standards they claim they have, they’ll get no respect here or anywhere else thinking people hang out.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:43 pmBlackhawk #197,
“Wondering where as a people were going?”
Good point, I hopes somewhere not being led by Rush.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:45 pmRich H Says:
Bobwurst #192,
I totally agree with you. I was toning it down so you all wouldn’t think I was crazy
And, just what are you implying sir?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:46 pmBobwurst Says:
flagged #194. Please do not respond, please do not copy and respond. Please flag the troll and move on.
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Agreed, bobwurst. Already flagged that one.
Saaaaaaay… anybody know whatever happened to Secret Agent x1 yesterday?
Did he ever come down out of that tree?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:46 pmThanks for your concern. You’d have to be a right winger to listen to those sites and think their arguments are outstanding. We’re not here to make you happy, we’re here to discuss amongst ourselves and amuse ourselves. If you don’t like it why don’t you go elsewhere. When I want a lecture I’ll call my mother.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:47 pmYou can mention K O but hey, he’s got a fact check team bigger than a Bush Administration war exit strategy team. If he says something that borders on being nonfactual, he takes it back. You can’t say that for the other guys.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 pmBobwurst,
That sometimes to make a point I have to go hog wild.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 pm#204, Concerned Kenyan my a$$. FLAGGED.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 pmGood question TRoS. I’m guessing he’s busy telling himself he really showed those libs so he won’t have to think about how many holes he has in his world view. Sir.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 pmPlease please please, someone needs to find a video clip from the 1980s (Ithink)
Rush had just lost a lot of weight and was trying to get his show back up so he was making the talk show rounds. On David Letterman, Dave asked him if he really believed “all that crap” he said on his radio show. Only Dave can get away with a question like that.
Well, the audience howled, Rush paused, gave a great big smile and said; “Dave, I’m an entertainer, just like you.” Everyone howled even louder.
That video has to be in some vault somewhere.
Please please please. Does anyone know a big shot at NBC or CBS who can try to find that clip? Wouldn’t that clip be great right now?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 pmCNN poll today: 23% of Republicans have an unfavorable opinion of Limbaugh.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:50 pmThat’s not fair comparing Bush’s exit strategy team to anything that has a sum larger than 0.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:50 pmI know Rich, it is just funny to say.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:51 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
God knows I have come across plenty of super right wing sites that make outstanding arguments against democrats.
Blackhawk #197,
“Wondering where as a people were going?”
Care to name some of those super sites? Cuz the ones I’ve seen had me asking the same question you did of us.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:52 pmMike Malloy is not the leader of the Democratic Party. Big Difference.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:52 pmKeith Says:
CNN poll today: 23% of Republicans have an unfavorable opinion of Limbaugh.
Well duh?!?!? they’re all afraid for their lives.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:53 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
TRoS, thank you SO MUCH for your respectful response!
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Yer welcome. Heh… ‘cuse me while I wash my face and comb my hair…
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This is what I am looking for. I’d still argue that there really isn’t so much “exposing” going on here given that this site is clearly subjective and opinion based. When I happen upon any site like this, regardless of their socio-political platform, I take what they say with a grain of salt. God knows I have come across plenty of super right wing sites that make outstanding arguments against democrats.
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As far as the grain of salt thingy goes, you have to. We all have agendas. No doubt TP does too. I get along well w/ the community here. It’s part of why come back. I NEVER trust one source of information completely. I go around the Intertubes and look in on a lot of sites, including righty ones, but I don’t try posting at those places. I don’t agree w/ all the opinions here, or everything TP does.
Democracy and free speech… both works still in progress… heh… no one ever said making sausage was pretty.
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Perhaps what really makes this site progressive is that it acts as a cathartic punching bag for the left?? Maybe it’s good that some just get that anger out. But I tell ya’, I do find it disconcerting that one can’t look on the comment section of any site without finding some seriously ugly crap being thrown at people. I just wonder where we, as humans, are really going.
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I’ve had my arguments here w/ folks over the language, etc.
I… I… was even called a TROLL… ***gasp*** at the time. So I backed off and let the boys, and girls, go at it. Who am I tell others what to do?
(And they’re NOT going to do it anyways… don’t get me started on THAT…)
Am I complacent? Or realistic?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 pmWhen was Rush elected to any public office?
Steele and Gingrich can’t get elected anymore.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:55 pmKenyan, there hasn’t been many, but you do your own legwork.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:55 pmConcerned Kenyan Says:
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Keith Says:
Mike Malloy is not the leader of the Democratic Party. Big Difference.
When was Rush elected to any public office?
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Never ……..Which makes his being the supposed “leader” of a political party even more laughable and pathetic……
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 pmAre you actually a Rush apologist? Oh yeah, only anonymously.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:58 pmFake Kenyan,
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:00 pmIf you look at the topic of this thread (crazy, I know), it says:
“Steele Bows Down To Limbaugh: ‘No Attempt On My Part To Diminish His Voice Or His Leadership’ “
Concerned Kenyan Says:
When was Rush elected to any public office?
In a way Rush is elected everyday by the idiots who turn in to listen to his drivel. He himself has basically laid claim to leadership of the republican party, and the simple fact that the RNC chair and members of congress feel the need to apologize to him. Shows that to a large section of the extreme right does view Rush as the de facto leader. The republicans who are elected to public office know this, and thus give Rush far more respect then what he deserves.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:03 pmKenyan seems like a good one, Tracy 5 anyone?
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:03 pmhttp://nfl.fanhouse.com/2007/09/06/keith-olbermann-michael-vick-apology/ Here is one. i told you they are rare, unlike your buddies.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:03 pmCornered Kenyan:
If you have to resort to sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting LALALALA maybe you should rethink your positon.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:03 pmSteele is going to be really pissed when Lush Limbaugh tells him to go get him a drink or bring his car around.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 pmConcerned Kenyan Says:
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MCMetal Says
Who said Rush was leader of anything, besides you folks?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:58 pm
His (moronic) listeners , you GOP stooge…………
Oh , and Michael Steele ……..At the top of this thread.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 pmBobwurst Says:
Good question TRoS. I’m guessing he’s busy telling himself he really showed those libs so he won’t have to think about how many holes he has in his world view. Sir.
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Heh… he sure climbed way, way up that tree, didn’t he?
Poor li’l feller… whimpering in the dark…
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:05 pmFake Kenyan,
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:07 pmLimbaugh was far more popular at CPAC than Steele or any Republican elected official you can come up with. Every day another Republican quasi-leader feels the need to kiss his humongous arse. Who do you consider the leader of the Republican Party? Come on, let’s hear. Sarah Palin? Steele? Jindal? Gingrich? Paul?
Concerned Kenyan Says:
Who said Rush was leader of anything, besides you folks?
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Ummmmmm… you are kidding, right?
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 pmHe groveled at Limbaugh’s feet just like Rahm Emanuel predicted. It’s very pathetic. I almost began to respect him for a moment there when he denounced Rush. I don’t know if it’s a good idea for Emanuel to lift Limbaugh to the national stage like that, however.
Plunditry Blog
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 pmhttp://plunditry.com
Check it out and tell me what you think!
Why do trolls have to come up with patriotic or idiotic names? What’s up with concerned Kenyan? Concerned about what exactly? That you don’t know how to read? That you don’t know what this post is about? That you can’t make a coherent point? Or valid argument?
I witnessed the train wreck that was Tracy 5 today. Please lord don’t make we witness another.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 pmm.huffingtonpost.com/top/31611 Here ya go.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 pmIs anyone really surprised that Lush “outed” Steele as a token?
The circular firing squad is nearly in formation and the whole GOP is waiting for a loudmouth like Lush to commence firing. It won’t be long before people start getting booted from the party and it couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 pmKenyan now you are just being crybaby.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 pmSteele before: Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh, his whole thing is entertainment.
Limbaugh: You [Steele]are not head of the Republican party.
Steele after “[Rush] is a very valuable conservative voice for our party”
Rush is the Pope of the GOP–unless someone wrests the power of benediction from him , which doesn’t seem likely, does it?
Until that happens, the man who wants the President, specifically, to fail in his attempts to haul this country out of its worst financial ditch in 60 years, is calling the shots for the ‘loyal opposition’.
Whilst he decides on which executive jet he should buy ( A G5 or a Falcon 7XX) he doesn’t give a shit about the Republican working class and middle class voters who are losing income and losing houses—all that matters is that the GOP undermine Obama in any way possible.
But you think that should all be ignored?
Really,mike? You think he’s just an entertainer?
Did you have a good time in Baghdad, Mike? Because Rush helped send you there and keep you there. He supported KBR and Blackwater contracts. Did you pay $100 to get your laundry done? Rush didn;t have a problem with that.
Did you earn $100K per year for your tours?
The Blackwater guys did but Rush said anyone who criticized Bush’s policies which allowed the mercenaries to operate was a traitor (as did his pals in the GOP, like Darryl Issa).
Maybe you are weary, and why wouldn’t you be–you went to Iraq because of the enthusiasm of the likes of Rush, who supported Bush.
Rush had a f–cking great time when he visited Iraq, protected by soldiers like you. He thought it was great!
WHen we all learned how badly veterans were being treated at Walter Reed, did Rush demand action form Bush on their behalf, on your behalf?
No, he didn’t.
Apparently he was too busy insisting that Democrats didn’t ’support the troops’ to notice that he COULD have mobilized his audience to help veterans. Instead he preferred to mobilized against Democrats with lies and divisive rhetoric.
You want to ignore all that now ,mike? Because I don’t.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 pmBoner? Don’t make me break out in tears! Does he spend all day on a golf course or on a tanning bed? Lot of junkets to the Caribbean?
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:13 pm5th Estate,
You nailed it. I also have a little problem with Mikes bio. I have never met any Jews who think the problem will be fixed if we just ignore it, it will go away.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 pmConcerned Kenyan Says:
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John Boehner
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
What was the question ?
Who sports the most fake tan in Congress ?
Who is the biggest crybaby politician in US history ?
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 pmFake Kenyan,
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:16 pmWhy were ten times as many jobs created under Clinton as under Bush II ?
Concerned Kenyan Says:
the Lone Voice of Reason Says
I could crash this site with Keith Olbermann lies, but, it would be off topic.
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don’t you know how to do a link?
here i’ll help you.
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anything else?
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March 2nd, 2009 at 10:16 pmHas Rush retracted his misquote of the Declaration of Independence yet?
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:17 pmZeituni – please, in a word, backup.
What topic were you addressing?
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:18 pmGOP and their fat clown. Its getting sad and scary.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:18 pmKenyan When was Rush elected to any public office?
Steele wasn’t elected to public office, but he’s the Chair of the RNC and the de facto ;eader of the Republicans.
Until Rush Limbaugh told him he wasn’t, and then Steele agreed.
So Steele took his lead from Limbaugh. That makes Limbaugh the leader (at the present time).
And yes, I will gladly immediately transfer to you $10,000 if you promise to organize the release of $3million back to me from your Uncle who was the Kenyan Minister of the Interior, just as soon as as you can sort out the red tape which might take a couple of weeks, on the sole basis of your unsolicited e-mail to that effect.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 pmmike,
hitler / limbaugh thing
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problem with chicks?
hitler – yes
limbaugh – yes
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drub abuse?
hitler – yes
limbaugh – yes
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weight problem?
hitler – no
limbaugh – yes
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fought in war?
hitler – yes
limbaugh – no
(ass deferment)
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good at right wing rallies?
hitler – yes
limbaugh – yes
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wants to kill to kill father
and sleep with mother?
hitler – yes
limbaugh – yes
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hates black people
hitler – yes
limbaugh – yes
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so mike i think you can see for yourself there are differences
but there are also similarities.
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i hope this helps.
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March 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 pmMCMetal Says:
Concerned Kenyan Says:
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John Boehner
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
What was the question ?
Who sports the most fake tan in Congress ?
He wants to look like this.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 pmmoney on how long Steele lasts as RNC Chair?
I’ll take 3 weeks or under, and sweeten it with a bet they’ll have 2 more before midterms.
you patsy rushpuppets down?
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 pmConcerned Kenyan Says:
John Boehner
Zeituni Says:
Rich H Says:
Zeituni – please, in a word, backup.
What topic were you addressing?
Somebody claimed that Rush was the Republican leader, which is false. John Boehner is the Minority leader.
Oooh, someone’s sockpuppet made a boo-boo.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 pmrush and mike.
napoleon and snowball.
:)
(somebody explain it to ken)
:)
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:33 pmWatch it guys, your in for an epic slapdown from Zeituni.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 pmJohn Boehner claims that every small business is getting a tax hike. Maybe he meant every small business except 98% of them, the 2% getting a hike are subsidiaries owned by people like George Bush. Do you need that sited Kenyan, or can I just SAY republicans lie?
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:38 pmOh boy, a lot to respond to:
Bobwurst, was that right wing boo hoo comment directed at me? I don’t think I was being very “right wing,” was I?? I’m certainly not. Sure, Rush spews hate speech, no different than much of the hate speech here. But I’ve never heard him advocating the murder of an entire people. Quite frankly, he simply doesn’t possess the intelligence needed to be a Hitler. Let’s not forget people, Hitler was responsible for the death of tens of millions of people. Any way you cut it, it ain’t the same as what Rush does. And I have to say that anytime anyone compares someone to Hitler, unless they really are responsible for mass murder, it’s pretty offensive to many Jews, as it belittles the shoah.
Anyway, let me again state what my inital point was, because it really seems to be lost on many of you: Had Rush never been given all of this attention, he wouldn’t have the power he does now. Get it? Maybe I didn’t make that clear. At this point, I admit, it’s a bit after the fact.
Even so, comparing Rush and our current situation in the US to Hitler and the post WWI situation in Weimar Germany is really like comparing apples and oranges. This is right up my alley, as I happen to study WWI and WWII history, (specifically Imperial German history actually). It is SUPER important to understand how upset most Germans were in the wake of WWI for being forced to accept full responsibility for starting WWI (and I’m not sure how many history majors are out there, but if you are, then you know that this really was unfair of the Entente powers to do). You had a nation, the majority of which were VERY upset and whole-heartedly believed they got a raw deal and wanted revenge. They had all just come from a war in which 2.5 million Germans had died. They were forced to pay reparations they simply could not afford, which lead to hyper inflation. Combined with the crash in 1929, their economy was by far one of the worst hit. We’re also talking about a people who had just forged for the first time (in 1871) a GREAT sense of pride, and a very militaristic sense of duty and society. By 1930, the Weimar government was in a total state of collapse. You had armed political factions, socialists and communists and so forth, roaming the streets and fighting each other for power, including Hitler’s NSDAP (in English, national socialist german labor party, which is actually where the term nazi comes from).
All of these things in combination with each other laid the ground work for what happened in Germany in 1933. Hitler simply used these things to his advantage. The situation simply doesn’t compare to the United States, even though we find ourselves in an economic downturn.
There are certainly right wing (just as there are left wing) extremists out there, preaching scary shit like civil war and so on. And yes, these things are not to be ignored. But my second point is that we should be trying to win these people over instead of attacking them and polarizing their beliefs. Attacking them only serves to reinforce their anger and their belief that something like a civil war really is necessary. Do we really want to have a war with these people? Wouldn’t it be better of we disagreed but just freakin’ got along?
Oh there’s NO DOUBT that the Republican party is fledgling at the moment. They are in dire need of a new direction and a new leader. At the moment, many republicans really are acting like a bunch of babies. Much of the hubub we see now, I believe, is really just an emotional reaction. But I don’t think it’s going to lead to anything substantial; certainly not anything comparable to the 3rd Reich.
Man, I need a break. For the record, though, I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN!! But I don’t see anything wrong with being one. It’s part of being free. One could argue that the right to attack them is part of being free too, but having the right to do something doesn’t make it the right thing to do. Much of these attacks just reminds me of one group who’s just so certain that they’re right and everyone else is wrong that they’re willing to judge anyone who thinks differently.
As for my service in Iraq, I’m not sorry for it. Perhaps it’s difficult for people to understand. First of all, it wasn’t based on lies, it was based on the past history of Iraq (and the WMDs they used on the Iranians and the Kurds and others), and it was based on a severe intelligence failure. Honestly, my unit was attacked by WMDs in the form of Sarin gas mortar rounds combined and used as a IED on the northern part of Route Irish in Baghdad. Fortunately, the rounds themselves did not detonate (thank GOD). But since there were only 3, it did not constitute a large enough find to be considered a threat.
At any rate, when I went to Iraq, I went with two things in mind: helping the people of Iraq recover from the Ba’ath party, and saving my buddies. In the end, when you’re getting shot at, all you can think about is the guy next to you, and making sure he gets home alive. And for this, I am not sorry that I was there.
I don’t really know why Bush wanted us in Iraq, and at this point I don’t care. What’s done is done. What I care about is giving the people of Iraq a chance to have what we have here. I know there are people who are going to read that and think it’s BS, but it really isn’t. Me and my unit worked so damn hard to help those people. I do wish that the media did more reporting of this stuff, but let’s face it, it doesn’t make for good ratings, and even when they do report, people back here think it’s staged. But it’s not. We did so much over there for those people. I came to love the people of Iraq. I think people here forget what it means when they say our involvment in Iraq is a failure. It’s easy to say such a thing, as people are so far away from it here. But for the people of Iraq, it means everything. I know in my heart that what began as a horrible mistake can still become a good thing for those people. Frankly, it’s the best option at this point. And both the veterans who have served there and the people of Iraq deserve every bit of support and hope they can get. Bush might have sent us for some BS, but that’s not what WE fought for, and believe me, that makes all the difference in the world. Man, being there on the first election day, seeing the Iraqi people come from 10 and 20 miles, some limping, some in carts, some blind, it was a powerful experience. If you had seen it, if you had been there, if nothing else, you’d see just how great this country is, and just how much the people of Iraq wanted the same freedom we have.
Again, I’m not saying we should have gone. My experience over there has caused me a GREAT deal of pain. From losing friends who were soldiers to losing Nick Berg, who dated my sister at one point, and was my school mate at Henderson High in West Chester. These people, however, did not die for nothing. They died for something they believe in. They died for the people of Iraq and for the people of America. And regardless of what Bush and his buddies intended, something good can and will come of all of this pain. At least this is what I believe.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 pmConcerned Kenyan Says:
Bobwurst Says:
Cornered Kenyan:
If you have to resort to sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting LALALALA maybe you should rethink your positon.
to the contrare. I made a legitimate argument which you can’t refute. Who’s
yelling lalalala? I think you are.
Au contrary yourself…douch#B@g. Nice try with the I know you are but what am I gambit. Well it won’t work because it’s opposite day. Unless of course you are a general who needs someone’s bank account here in the states to stash a large sum of money, in that case, Please let me help you out.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:43 pmcoming to this late, having skipped a bunch of comments, but I noticed ou new friend Blackhawk Mike has restated his initial point, and I’d like to address it:
Had Rush never been given all of this attention, he wouldn’t have the power he does now.
Let me respond this way: are you high?
You seriously think Rush got as powerful in Republican circles as he is today because liberals paid attention to him?
Eegads. That’s a theory that certainly pushes the envelope.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 pmmike,
wish you had taken the time
to read my chart. lots there.
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good luck.
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March 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 pmAgain, I’m not saying we should have gone. My experience over there has caused me a GREAT deal of pain. From losing friends who were soldiers to losing Nick Berg, who dated my sister at one point, and was my school mate at Henderson High in West Chester.
Blackwater mike a piece of advice. Never give out this level of detail on the internet. NEVER. You’re just asking for trouble and even if you think you can handle it, can your sister?
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:47 pmNick Berg? Really? I take you at your word, even if that has gotten me in trouble before. BTW I found out today a friend of mine, A Major, with a Purple Heart died Saturday. It is weighing on me a bit.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
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March 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Can I ask you ……… What exactly in your delusional head makes you believe we have the right to determine what other countries can and should be when we were never asked to intervene in the 1st place ?
BTW
Nothing “good” ever comes from something that is based on a lie or a faulty premise ………….
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:51 pmps –
“Bush and his buddies…”
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March 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 pm“I was maybe a little bit inarticulate. … There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership.”
Grab some popcorn, get comfy because the GOP are eating their own and Rush Limbaugh is winning. The base loves Rush. The base is shrinking.
Blackhawk Mike.
Thank you for your service
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 pmit wasn’t based on lies, it was based on the past history of Iraq (and the WMDs they used on the Iranians and the Kurds and others), and it was based on a severe intelligence failure. Honestly, my unit was attacked by WMDs in the form of Sarin gas mortar rounds combined and used as a IED on the northern part of Route Irish in Baghdad
you need to provide an outside source for this dude. Seriously. All through the war there were breathless accounts and pentagon briefings on WMD that was found, or 55 gallon drums of nerve agent that was found and they always, without fail turned out to be false reports. Every single time. If there had been an actual Sarin attack that would have been trumpted so long and so loud that we’d still be hearing the echos. Either you were lied to or you’re lying.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:53 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
coming to this late, having skipped a bunch of comments, but I noticed ou new friend Blackhawk Mike has restated his initial point, and I’d like to address it:
Had Rush never been given all of this attention, he wouldn’t have the power he does now.
Let me respond this way: are you high?
You seriously think Rush got as powerful in Republican circles as he is today because liberals paid attention to him?
Eegads. That’s a theory that certainly pushes the envelope.
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classic concern troll deflection.
“your attention only empowers him”
yada, yada, yada…
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“a noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.”
- l. simpson
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March 2nd, 2009 at 10:56 pmI don’t believe Sarin was used to often but I may be wrong. Maybe the fine soldier can give us some dates to support his claim.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 pmFrankly, it’s the best option at this point. And both the veterans who have served there and the people of Iraq deserve every bit of support and hope they can get
Supporting the Vetearns has nothing to do with swallowing the lies that got us into the war.
If you’re looking for support check out this link
http://www.studentveterans.org/
and consider starting a chapter
I was at the midwest convention this past weekend. They’re a good group. They’re non-partisan advocates for your era of veteran students.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:58 pmIn fact, I don’t remember a single recorded episode of the use of Sarin gas.
March 2nd, 2009 at 10:59 pmYeah Hellinabucket, I’m inclined to agree with you. I’m starting to wonder about BM.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:03 pmHe has to be pretty naive to have published actual information about himself and his sister like that. He never linked to any of those super right wing web sites, and you know that Don Rumfeld and cheney and bush and every other right wing talking head would still be talking about the sarin if it had been used.
Oh there’s NO DOUBT that the Republican party is fledgling at the moment. They are in dire need of a new direction and a new leader. At the moment, many republicans really are acting like a bunch of babies. Much of the hubub we see now, I believe, is really just an emotional reaction. But I don’t think it’s going to lead to anything substantial; certainly not anything comparable to the 3rd Reich.
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interesting mike.
glenn beck at fox news
sees it a bit differently.
dystopian.
:)
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:03 pmBobwurst, I totally agree with you. It IS time for Republicans to stand up and distance themselves from Rush!!
Shayne, I’m no right winger, believe me. My point regarding those sites is that any one-sided forum can present a very convincing argument, but you can’t believe any of it because it’s simply SO subjective. You have to do much more research. Besides, they (conservatives) think the exact same thing of you as you do of them. And believe me, I question them MORE than I have here by FAR. Don’t assume that because I’m questioning things here that makes me right wing! What I see here is hypocrisy, as liberals are often claiming to be the open minded, respectful ones, and yet I see a LOT of hatred. Just as republican leaders aren’t living up to the standards and values they claim, many democrats and liberals here aren’t either. I hold my party up to high standards. While I am a moderate, I voted and campaigned for (and even got to meet!!) President Obama. His message was one of unity, and that’s what I want to see.
Hey Joe, I like your comparisons. Theoretically, don’t all men want to kill their fathers and sleep with their mothers?? I mean, if you subscribe to Freudian psychoanalysis anyway. And does Rush really hate african americans?? I did not know this, though I suspect a great deal of the ridiculous hatred of Obama coming from some really does stem from racism. But is this documented??
Can’t we chill with the silly “if you don’t like it, go somewhere else” nonsense?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:05 pmRalph, not because liberals paid attention to him, because the media did.
Yes, you came to this late.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:06 pmbob, hell, et al.
a guy shows up out of nowhere
and claims a personal kinship
with nick berg?
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and limbaugh posts aren’t few
and far between around here.
why does he protest now?
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March 2nd, 2009 at 11:07 pmI’m calling bull$hit on your nick berg story BM. There’s no narrative need to say where you and Nick went to high school, but there is a rhetorical one: establishing credibility. You should be ashamed of yourself, passing yourself off as a war vet and digging up the corpse of nick berg. you are a troll of the worst kind.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
Ralph, not because liberals paid attention to him, because the media did.
Yes, you came to this late.
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it works that way with everybody mike.
not just a drug abusing pundit who’d
on the radio seven days a week.
right?
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ralph, there’s a serious backup
vibe going on here. get ready.
:)
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:09 pmLiberal news?!!! WTF is that. Any network willing to ask questions or report the news?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
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March 2nd, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Don’t you see the illogical nature of this rant ?
Who cares what Cancervatives “think” ? Their ideas/policies have proven to be monumental failures , whereas progressive ideas haven’t been used for decades .
How can anyone with a record of backing nothing but failure , be critical of ideas that have not been implemented and put to the test ?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:11 pmOhhhh, Rumsfeld said it. That’s all anyone needs to know.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 pmZeituni Says:
Rumsfeld said Polish Defense Minister Jerzy Szmajdzinski told him about the find when they met earlier this week at a NATO summit in Istanbul.
“He pointed out that his troops in Iraq had recently come across — I’ve forgotten the number, but something like 16 or 17 — warheads that contained sarin and mustard gas,” Rumsfeld told Newradio 600 KOGO of San Diego, California, in an interview aired Wednesday.
“Now these are weapons that we always knew Saddam Hussein had that he had not declared, and they have tested them,” he said.
You mean the ones that were 15 years old and long past their useful life? those ones?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 pmZetuni, if you’re right take it up with Geroge bush…
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 pmhttp://uspolitics.about.com/b/2006/08/22/bush-admits-wmd-main-reason-for-iraq-press-ignores-admission.htmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3718150.stm
Bobwurst, it might be too much to try to explain half-life’s of isotopes and things like that to people siting FoxNews.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 pmZeituni Says:
Rumsfeld said Polish Defense Minister Jerzy Szmajdzinski told him about the find when they met earlier this week at a NATO summit in Istanbul.
“He pointed out that his troops in Iraq had recently come across — I’ve forgotten the number, but something like 16 or 17 — warheads that contained sarin and mustard gas,” Rumsfeld told Newradio 600 KOGO of San Diego, California, in an interview aired Wednesday.
“Now these are weapons that we always knew Saddam Hussein had that he had not declared, and they have tested them,” he said.
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mike, you see what z posted?
so you were in the right and the liberals were wrong.
ok?
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March 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 pmZeituni Says:
You mean the ones that were 15 years old and long past their useful life? those ones?
How bout we store them in your kitchen?
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mike, you see what z has posted?
should we store them in liberals’ kitchens?
?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 pmWhen in the hell has the Polish Defense Minister ever been viewed as the ultimate source of information ?
Or even a viable one ………………..?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 pmNone. Why do you ask?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 pmNope, BM needs to provide his own proof and refute his commander in chief
http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2006/08/22/bush-admits-wmd-main-reason-for-iraq-press-ignores-admission.htm
Bush Admits WMD “Main Reason” for Iraq; Press Ignores Admission
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 pmTuesday August 22, 2006
In a press conference Monday, President Bush said that the “main reason” America “went into Iraq” was that “we thought he had weapons of mass destruction.” In his next breath, in a stream-of-consciousness fashion, he links Saddam Hussein with 9-11, imagining him “stirring up even more trouble in a part of a world that had so much resentment and so much hatred that people came and killed 3,000 of our citizens.
Zeituni Says:
alpuz3 Says
You have how many medals and stars?
Zeitune has yellow moons and green clovers in his cereal.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:18 pmthe Lone Voice of Reason Says:
Bobwurst, it might be too much to try to explain half-life’s of isotopes and things like that to people siting FoxNews.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808/
Yeah, that’s why I included a link to george bush admitting there were no WMD. I guess BM had to go.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 pmBobwurst, I swear on my family, my service in Iraq, all my brothers and sisters who have been there, or whatever else you need to know, that I am not lying about those Sarin gas rounds. But as I said, it was far too small an amount to be considered a threat. You have to remember that THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of these rounds and others like them were used in the Iraq/Iran war. You really don’t think there were ANY left in Iraq?? I mean, shit, we used to do searches and come across all kinds of crazy shit! Doesn’t anyone know what happened in Halabjah to the Kurds? My god, it’s on wikipedia for crying out loud.
Believe me, it’s absolutely 100% true. I was there. I’ve really no reason to lie, as I’m not using this as an argument to validate the war, but rather to demonstrate that intelligence can be very confusing, and if you know anything about the history of Iraq, you would also know that they used chemical weapons more than almost any other nation. And even so, what we came across doesn’t come CLOSE to constituting the level of WMDs that were being talked about. I must say though that I really hope that this information isn’t confidential. There are MANY things that we don’t know about. Heck, if some unit found out that 1000 pounds of weapons grade uranium was MISSING from Iraq, that this would be reported on the news?? Probably not. Not that I believe at all that it happened, but I really don’t know. But I know, 100%, about those damn sarin gas rounds.
I should also note that the rounds were very, very old and not well kept.
Bobwurst, I agree. There is a BIG difference! But at this point, what scares me is that I have seen and met and heard far too many people actually express a desire to the war in Iraq to fail, simply because it would make them right. What I mean by support here is sending food and clothing to Iraqis, and if nothing else, just sending good vibes out there.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 pmZeituni Says:
the Lone Voice of Reason Says:
Bobwurst, it might be too much to try to explain half-life’s of isotopes and things like that to people siting FoxNews.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808/
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poor spelling,
the common thread of the troll.
(sigh)
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March 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 pmZeituni Says:
None. Why do you ask?
I’ll take Rumsfelds words over yours.
Are you calling bush a liar? I thought that was treason to you people.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 pmZeituni Says:
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None. Why do you ask?
I’ll take Rumsfelds words over yours.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Turns out , Rumsfeld was wrong ; as was the entire shitty Chimpy administration for 8 godawful years …….About everything.
Least they were consistent…………..
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 pmProbably didn’t even let Steele use KY.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:24 pmMay of ‘04. Wow that was way back when Tillman was killed by enemy combatants and Jessica Lynch fought to the last bullet before turning to her knife before she was brutally rape. Yup, I remember the days when we could trust the news coming out of Iraq. Unlike the transparent shmransparent times like today.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:25 pmZeituni Says:
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MCMetal Says:
When in the hell has the Polish Defense Minister ever been viewed as the ultimate source of information ?
Or even a viable one ………………..?
Do you have a source that says otherwise?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Dp you have anything to present where the Polish Defense Minister’s word was ever viewed so highly by any other administration , as it apparently was by the shitty Chimpy administration and your own stupid GOP leg humping ass……….?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:25 pmAttaboy, It worked out so well.
Zeituni, Do you think that number of “medals and stars” one holds should give credence to what they have or haven’t said about the war in Iraq?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 pmYour right Zeituni, on May 17th there was a single use of Sarin gas. A single use. Since 1990 there has been seven recorded times Sarin gas was used. Please forgive me if this fact slipped my mind.
With that said Zeituni, one use of Sarin gas that may have injured two people over a year after we decided to invade Iraq because of WMD’s isn’t the “See I told you so” moment for the Bush administration.
And for you to insult and assume on where I get my information shows that you may be quick to judge and not look at a larger picture.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:27 pmBoy, Blackhawk Mikey is one of the newer models of concern trolls.
I do not beleive one fukin MIKEY. Not one. COuld care less about what you claim to have found. YOu are one more sicko bastard republitroids that will now use the cloak of a service member to come here and spew you utter bullshit. They only way you and your ilk would ever care about cothing the Iraqi people is if you can mack a buck off of it.
If you want to redeem yourself, then pick up your weapon, and do what you know should be done to ElBusto-fattoo.
That is the only thing that will put this right.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:27 pmI’m a business major not an english major, and I get laid once in a while too. Sorry, that hit hard didn’t it?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:27 pmBobwurst, I really don’t know what to say to you at this point. If you want to believe that I’m lying, go ahead. But you’d be wrong. And what does that say about you? What do you want to see? Pictures of me in Iraq? My yearbook showing me and Nick? Would this make you happy? Because if so, send me your email so I can send them to you, and then you can offer and apology.
By the way, Blackhawk Mike was my callsign while I was in Iraq.
AND FOR THE LAST TIME, I AM NOT A RIGHT WINGER!! Are you people reading, or just reacting?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:29 pmBM, the weapons inspectors went over the country with a fine tooth comb, for years and concluded that there was no viable WMD of any kind.
There were reports of WMD that turned out to be drums of perfume for god’s sake. The pentagon was calling all sorts of stuff WMD and then backtracking a few days later. The pentagon lied to us about all sorts of things. Remember Jessica Lynch? Remember Tillman? You claim to be a history student, surely you’ve heard of the saying “those who forget history are doomed to repeat it”?
Doesn’t anyone know what happened in Halabjah to the Kurds? My god, it’s on wikipedia for crying out loud.
That happened in 1988, when Ronald Reagan was president, with technical support from Reagan.
Swearing on the lives of your family means nothing. sorry. we deal in facts here. We’ve had plenty of trolls come here and claim to be all sorts of people. Deal in facts or be prepared to be hammered.
Good night.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 pmOdd that this fact sheet about Sarin was created the same day of the attack
emergency.cdc.gov/agent/sarin/basics/pdf/sarin-facts.pdf
coincidence?
Zeituni, was the CDC liberal media back in 2004?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 pmzeituni, 285, 290, 295, 299, 304, 306, 311, 313, & 316, off topic.
ooohhh smack.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 pmAnd what the hell is a troll anyway?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 pmHey Blackhawk Send me the pics eatme@thisinstead.info
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:33 pmIts a real address.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:35 pmWe call his whole existance a lie.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pmBlackhawk Mike, if you really want to know, why don’t you sit back and read these forums for a few days. You’ll learn a whole lot about trolls. Also, you may learn why some of the posters here are more than a bit reluctant to take anything someone claims to be true about themselves, as the absolute truth.
good luck.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pmZeituni:
Do you think that the number of “medals and stars” one holds should give credence to what they have or haven’t said about the war in Iraq?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pmI’m reading Blackhawk mike. What was your MOS?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 pmWell, I do agree that one should be able to provide credible sources. I can certainly prove to you everything I have said with the exception of the sarin gas mortar rounds. But as I have said, those rounds don’t mean anything. They seem to be a bigger deal to you than they were to any of us.
But, here’s a link for you:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808/
I’m not sure if this was the same event. I was in Iraq from March of 2004 to March of 2005, and this sounds EXACTLY like the event that occured with my unit. But they don’t say where it was (for us, as I said, it was in Baghdad on the northern part of Route Irish) and according to this, they were 155 rounds, not mortar rounds.
But as this article also says, it wasn’t enough to constitute a real threat.
So, now that I have provided you with a source, I bet you still don’t believe me, do you?
And I’ll be happy to provide you with plenty of other evidence of my service and my schoolmate, although I shouldn’t really need to.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:39 pmhellinabucket, I was an 11c, techinically an indirect fire infantryman (a mortarman). However, given the MOUT nature of Baghdad, our 120mm mortars proved too risky to employ due to concerns of harming innocent civillians (the 120mm HE round has a kill radius of 75 meters, even more than the 155mm HE Arty piece, which has a kill radius of 50 meters). Anyway, since our mortars couldn’t be used, I was employed as a basic bravo (ie. 11B, Infantryman).
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:41 pmJumpy aren’t you Zeituni, I’ve done nothing to you but you keep assuming. tsk, tsk, tsk.
single known use of Sarin
note the above link isn’t that liberal media.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:41 pmhey big Z,
Did you hear the news today about Bush voiding the first and fourth amendment while in office? Do you know what this means? Should it be explained to you?
Thank god the adled minded Bush didn’t follow through on what he had “legally written” for him.
That doesn’t mean the next right wing lunatic republican that gets in office won’t use it for a precedent.
Do you guys have any idea why we think Rush is dangerous?
Right, he’s not Hitler, he’s Goebbels.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 pmalpuz3,
twice i have pointed our friend “mike”
in the direction of zeituni and he comes
back with “what’s a troll?”
wtf?
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March 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 pmMike, what’s your MOS?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 pmI don’t know, joe… besides the obvious, something just doesn’t smell right.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:44 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
And what the hell is a troll anyway?
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I gotta say… this comment doesn’t make sense. He’s already told us he goes to different websites to see what’s up, and he’s claiming he doesn’t know what a troll is?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:45 pmExcellent, The big Z is already playing the victim.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 pmZeituni, now your just plain lying.
NEWS RELEASE
HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND
7115 South Boundary Boulevard
MacDill AFB, Fla. 33621-5101
Phone: (813) 827-5894; FAX: (813) 827-2211; DSN 651-5894
May 17, 2004
Release Number: 04-05-42
So Mike, what’s your MOS?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 pmSo I don’t keep up on the lingo. Sorry. Lol. I understand that people here are skeptical of what I am saying. By all means, please give me a chance to prove that I am being honest, or don’t call me a liar.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 pmBig Z,
I’ve never flagged a post. It’s interesting and disturbing to see what people like you have on your mind. BTW you starting in with the “off topic” comment. And haven’t once addressed the topic if this thread.
Yeah I did, about an hour or so ago. It seems like an eternity when confronted with someone as ignorant as you.
But if it makes you feel better, please believe I’m the one flagging.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:48 pmBlackhawk Mike Says:
Anyway, since our mortars couldn’t be used, I was employed as a basic bravo (ie. 11B, Infantryman).
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Repeat experience has taught that When a poster starts introducing personal information in order to give his, or her, personal opinion more validity, one best look out.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:48 pmz is reaching out to mike.
this is interesting.
let’s see what happens next.
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March 2nd, 2009 at 11:48 pmZeituni Says:
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And I’ll be happy to provide you with plenty of other evidence of my service and my schoolmate, although I shouldn’t really need to.
Don’t do it, Mike. They haven’t proven a single thing that they have posted. All they do is attack the messenger. Standard MO.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Claims a GOP/Chimpy nut hugging tool , trying to use FAUX Comedy Channel and the “word” of the Polish Defense Minister and that of Donald Rumsfeld as proof….
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:49 pmZetuni, play all the games you want. Those who have read me know me.
So Mike, what’s your MOS?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:50 pmMike, were you on patrol when the Sarin gas exploded? 11 Brovo are the front of sword for the army. Was it on foot?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:52 pmhellinabucket,
I just googled MOS and in came up in about .003 seconds. Why the delay from Mike?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:52 pmHmmm, this one reads familiar.
Hey Z:
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Well TRoS, while I really have visited a number of forums, political or otherwise, I will wholeheartedly admit that posting comments is not something I’m really used to doing, for the reasons being demonstrated here. Why people feel a need to attack me and call me a liar is beyond me, but it seems to be common among many. Maybe it makes people feel better about themselves attacking someone knowing that they’re hiding behind an internet screen? Who knows? I can certainly understand the desire to validate certain pieces of information, but many people here, along with many other sites, are just, well, dicks.
I wonder, though, how crappy they would feel if they met me down the line and found out that, like them, I’m just another guy, and I’m telling the truth.
Lol.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:54 pmRich H Says:
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hellinabucket,
I just googled MOS and in came up in about .003 seconds. Why the delay from Mike?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Maybe he thought it was Randy MOSS he was asked about ?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:54 pmhellinabucket, nah, we rarely did patrols on foot, especially presence patrols on Route Irish. I was in an M1114 (an up armored HUMVEE), manning an M240 Bravo.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:56 pmI think we got all we need from Mike, cue: LOL.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:56 pmZeituni Says:
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MCMetal Says
Claims a person who uses his own deluded opinion as “fact.”
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:53 pm
I’ve not claimed any “fact” , GOP suckhole ; you did , and provided no credible source to back up your unsubstantiated , ridiculous (and stupid) assertion ……Try again , shithead……..
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:56 pmThe thing I find hilarious about this is that they don’t get it that they have been played by the Obama Administration and played brilliantly.
They all look like a pack of slobbering fools. I’m thinking that the people are really getting it too.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:57 pmBig Z while your at it, the subject of this post, any opinion?
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:58 pmHow so?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 amRich H, this Zeituni’s come itching for a fight. Not sure why he’s so mad. Do you?
As for Private Benjamin, or Blackhawk Mike or whatever he wants to be called it doesn’t matter. If he can have a valid point or argument then he’s welcome by me. If he’s here to disrupt and not to be who he says and he lied about being in the service (how sick is that) I won’t have anything to do with the wretch and ignore him.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 amOnce again, Big Z:
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:01 am
Well shit, I HAD a valid point a long time ago, but then I got all caught up in being accused of being a liar. So what should I do? You tell me.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:02 amWith a name like Zeituni you’d be upset too.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:02 amBlackhawk Mike Says:
Well TRoS, while I really have visited a number of forums, political or otherwise, I will wholeheartedly admit that posting comments is not something I’m really used to doing, for the reasons being demonstrated here. Why people feel a need to attack me and call me a liar is beyond me, but it seems to be common among many.
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Posting on the intertubes is a funny thing. Apart from language or spelling, or bits of personal history, intentions come across. Quite well.
And you’ve got a lot of people here all reacting to you the same. That means something.
Maybe it makes people feel better about themselves attacking someone knowing that they’re hiding behind an internet screen? Who knows? I can certainly understand the desire to validate certain pieces of information, but many people here, along with many other sites, are just, well, dicks.
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Ah… here it comes… the gratuitous, one size fits all insult. “Yer all just… ”
And will the Closing Number be next?
“I come here to debate and this is how you libs…”!?!?!
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I wonder, though, how crappy they would feel if they met me down the line and found out that, like them, I’m just another guy, and I’m telling the truth.
Lol.
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Right… and we’re ALL WRONG… AGAIN!
Sorry, man, you may be who you say you are, but something else does come thru w/ the post. And we’re all reacting the same way.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:03 amBlackhawk Mike, what number comment contains your point? I really don’t want to scroll through all this.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 amBack to the thread topic. Rush will mean the end of the Republican party. He is too divisive to have wide appeal in this country. He’s not going to able to talk about the problems in this country with the millions he just made on his radio contract.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 amDo what it is you want to do. But if you don’t know what a troll is, and haven’t spent enough time reading these forums to figure it out, I’d sit back and spend some time reading these forums.
It may answer some of the questions you might have.
Good luck.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 amThese two are morons. Michael Steele is the token black dude who wants to bring hip-hop to the GOP – that’ll be the day! Rush Limbaugh is such a lardass he needs Viagra to get it up – honestly, do we really care what either of this imbeciles think? On second thought there is something to be said about “divide and conquer”… it could be very entertaining watching these idiots tear each other apart – almost as entertaining as Appalling Palin and her hillbilly clan was… let me rethink this…
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 amThank god for reinforcements! Hello Zooey and Trajan.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:09 amRush Limbaugh has already won. The party is so small and marginalized now that it’s all over but the signing. He won when Steele caved in. The voices in the republican party screaming for Rush are loud enough now to be heard. The problem is the room is getting smaller and smaller because less people want to hear what they have to say.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:09 amproblem for them, I should clarify.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:10 amHello, Rich H.
Any idea where Blackhawk Mike’s initial point is?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:11 amBlackhawk Mike Says:
Well TRoS, while I really have visited a number of forums, political or otherwise, I will wholeheartedly admit that posting comments is not something I’m really used to doing, for the reasons being demonstrated here. Why people feel a need to attack me and call me a liar is beyond me, but it seems to be common among many. Maybe it makes people feel better about themselves attacking someone knowing that they’re hiding behind an internet screen? Who knows? I can certainly understand the desire to validate certain pieces of information, but many people here, along with many other sites, are just, well, dicks.
I wonder, though, how crappy they would feel if they met me down the line and found out that, like them, I’m just another guy, and I’m telling the truth.
Lol.
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attacked?
john kerry was attacked.
served in ‘nam
decorated. won the purple heart. bronze star. silver star.
here’s what your friend limbaugh said about him.
and other “phony soldiers” who did not agree with mr. limbaugh.
would you stand up for them too?
or condemn them?
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senator kerry stood up to limbaugh.
despite the the pain, he had courage.
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good luck.
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March 3rd, 2009 at 12:12 amZeituni Says:
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hellinabucket Says
As for Private Benjamin,
Is that how a liberal “supports our troops?? Must be.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 am
And the way you GOP/Chimpy backing morons “support the troops” , is to vote for a wrinkled old moron for president who didn’t support the GI Bill that was a marked improvement over the previous one ……..Real nice.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 amZooey, if you can stand it, it’s about #113.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 amBlackhawkMike
If you are authentic, then I commend your service. Coming late to this thread, it isn’t fair for me to weigh in on the several points upon which I find want clarification. I hope you’ll return that we might pursue some of them in the future.
As you’ve pointed to and portrayed a certain mindset to be ‘representative’ of liberals here (indicating a preset notion, imho,) there is also the very real consideration that you are a product of an insular experience; in fact much more intensely insular and, dare I say, indoctrinating than that of any non-military individuals here; I notice it clearly.
Such points as the Kurdish gassing, in which we not only remained a Saddam ally in the aftermath (despite denouncing the action) but increased aid to Iraq. These points need refreshing as the idea that it was any part of the sum total of excuses to go to war with Saddam just does not stand up to scrutiny. (Providing I interpret your earlier claim correctly.)
As I said, there are a host of points that want exploring, but the late hour won’t allow full inspection. Hope you can come back.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 amThanks, Rich.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 amZooey Says:
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Hello, Rich H.
Any idea where Blackhawk Mike’s initial point is?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:11 am
The top of his head , from the looks of his posts……
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 amI didn’t particularly care about how Bush and the republican dominated senate and house supported the troops by refusing to send enough body armor. I hated how these guys “supported” our troops when some soldiers were electrocuted (one died that I know of) in showers that were built by private contractors. The buildings were in such poor condition. One section had the fecal matter from the bathrooms upstairs pouring on the living quarters of room below.
Those things and so much more are things that I really think Bush failed. Either that, or it was done for greed and that is so much worse than just being dumb.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 amMike, your a friend of Eric Odom?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 amTrajan75 IQ Says:
Blackhawk Mike:
This isn’t a military operation, so stand down, shut your mouth and listen. We moved quickly when you made the grab on Rodoms blog.
You’re Eric’s new golden boy and I am not going to ask you what you did to get such a honor. You’re drawing a lot of attention to yourself and that dreadful hate blog you run.
Why are Eric Odom and J$ tied to this wacko hate site?
TOO MANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY DRAW ATTENTION
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uh oh, mike…
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March 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 amZeituni Says:
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March 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 am
You , a supporter of the worst president in US history in Chimpy , who is also a military deserting chickenshit AWOL coward , are attempting to denigrate John Kerry’s military service ?
You’re completely retarded………..
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 amBlackhawk Mike,
You seem to claim being new to posting comments online, but you seem awfully comfortable dressing down TP about it’s content. Not a great start, can we agree on that?
Also, the best disinfectant is sunlight, and TP, as well as many others sites, are committed to shining the light on vermin like Limbaugh. People like Limbaugh are still trying to destroy the very foundation of this country. It’s WAY too soon to ignore them.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:23 amRUSH LIMBAUGH IS A STARK EXAMPLE OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF BLIND HATRED
Rush Limbaugh is a disgrace to humanity and Americans. If Democrats had said that they wished that our president failed in his invasion and occupation of Iraq, that would have been the same as wishing that our soldiers suffer the consequences of that failure by getting killed and or wounded. Republicans wishing that our president fails in his efforts to prevent America’s financial collapse is the same as wishing that millions of American families lose their jobs, their homes and their ability to feed and clothe themselves and their children. Millions of Americans would become homeless and starving. Osama bin Laden is also wishing that our president fails, because he knows what that would do to the lives of millions of working class Americans.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:23 amZeituni,
interesting. The same argument can (and has) been made about George W. Bush.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:23 amZeituni Says:
But according to a U.S. Navy spokesman, “Kerry’s record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a ‘combat V’ to anyone for a Silver Star.”
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 am Recommend (0) | Report Abuse
Zeituni Says:
B.G. Burkett, a Vietnam veteran himself, received the highest award the Army gives to a civilian, the Distinguished Civilian Service Award, for his book Stolen Valor. Burkett pored through thousands of military service records, uncovering phony claims of awards and fake claims of military service. “I’ve run across several claims for Silver Stars with combat V’s, but they were all in fake records,” he said.
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did bj ever mention
seeing limbaugh in ‘nam?
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1) yes, he was a fightin’ hero
2) no, he was hiding back home with a cyst on his a$$
:)
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:23 amHey Zitstick
How about posting blurbs on Chimpy’s tremendous military ‘record’ ……..
Didn’t he receive a Purple Heart for turning back the impending VC invasion of Texas and Alabama ?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 amhellinabucket Says:
Zeituni,
interesting. The same argument can (and has) been made about George W. Bush.
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hell be fair,
w. won a drinking medal
back in the texas air national guard
didn’t he z?
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mike, chime in any time here.
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March 3rd, 2009 at 12:25 amLimbaugh in Nam? is that where they he takes his special sex tours now?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 amHanshiro, you are welcome. And you are MOST correct about our involvment with Hussein, and our desire to provide support to the Iraqis as it was our desire (at the time) to see them victorious over the Iranians, given that the Iranians were supported by the Warsaw pact powers (ie. Russia). However, while the Reagan administration didn’t see anything wrong with the use of WMDs on, among other people, the Kurds, I sure as HELL do (although my intial point in mentioning these attacks was to demonstrate the prolific use of WMDs in Iraq).
It’s interesting, as while you see my experience as being insular, I see yours (assuming you’ve never been to Iraq), as being insular as well. It seems to me that being as I have had an experience in Iraq, said experience serves to help forumlate an opinion that is far more experienced, inclusive, multi-faceted and so on, than the opinions formed by those who’ve come to their conclusions isolated in America. Does that not stand to reason?
I know that much of what I say does sound like rhetoric. But what can I say, it’s how I feel. It’s what I believe. I think if you were to get to know me better, you’d find that I am anything but insular. Although I do admit that I am a bit of a dork and not very good at being social sometimes!
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 amZooey Says:
Blackhawk Mike,
You seem to claim being new to posting comments online, but you seem awfully comfortable dressing down TP about it’s content. Not a great start, can we agree on that?
Also, the best disinfectant is sunlight, and TP, as well as many others sites, are committed to shining the light on vermin like Limbaugh. People like Limbaugh are still trying to destroy the very foundation of this country. It’s WAY too soon to ignore them.
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zoo, i think it’s time.
will you marry me?
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March 3rd, 2009 at 12:27 amYes, Joe. I will be your wife. **blush**
You’re pretty sure I’m a woman, huh? ;)
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 amBlackhawk Mike Says:
Hanshiro, you are welcome. And you are MOST correct about our involvment with Hussein, and our desire to provide support to the Iraqis as it was our desire (at the time) to see them victorious over the Iranians, given that the Iranians were supported by the Warsaw pact powers (ie. Russia). However, while the Reagan administration didn’t see anything wrong with the use of WMDs on, among other people, the Kurds, I sure as HELL do (although my intial point in mentioning these attacks was to demonstrate the prolific use of WMDs in Iraq).
It’s interesting, as while you see my experience as being insular, I see yours (assuming you’ve never been to Iraq), as being insular as well. It seems to me that being as I have had an experience in Iraq, said experience serves to help forumlate an opinion that is far more experienced, inclusive, multi-faceted and so on, than the opinions formed by those who’ve come to their conclusions isolated in America. Does that not stand to reason?
I know that much of what I say does sound like rhetoric. But what can I say, it’s how I feel. It’s what I believe. I think if you were to get to know me better, you’d find that I am anything but insular. Although I do admit that I am a bit of a dork and not very good at being social sometimes!
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well you did avoid limbaugh’s attack on kerry didn’t you?
for a guy who claims the combat record you do what kind
of courage is that?
wtf?
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March 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 amOh, and I’ve certainly expressed time and time again that I have no love for the Bush Administration, and that my reasons for doing what I did, and for being proud of it, have absolutely nothing to do with that awful administration.
You’d think people would at least make some effort to genuinely read and respect the opinions of someone who clearly has more experience on a particular topic, but the truth is that many people here are only concerned with believing what they want to, and ignoring anything that doesn’t seem to conform with what their notion of the truth is. Honestly, it’s the last thing I thought I would find on a progressive site.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 amBlackhawk Mike Says:
Does that not stand to reason?
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Ooooooo… the call to reason!
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I know that much of what I say does sound like rhetoric.
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Ummmm… ah… because it IS rhetoric?
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But what can I say, it’s how I feel. It’s what I believe.I think if you were to get to know me better, you’d find that I am anything but insular. Although I do admit that I am a bit of a dork and not very good at being social sometimes!
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Wow… why does this seem so… so… scripted?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 amThere was one story about W. that he soaked a bed by relieving himself in his sleep. On more than one occasion while helping out one of his daddy’s buddies try to win an election.
Isn’t there still a $10,000 reward for anyone that can place George W. Bush where he says he was in 1972-1973?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 amRush, Coulter, Malkin, Bachmann, Lindsey Close that Closet Door Graham, Bug killer criminal, fat porky Rove, Wide Stance Larry, Dim Wit Palin,etc …..it would be hard to find this many crazies in a mental hospital.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 amZooey Says:
Yes, Joe. I will be your wife. **blush**
You’re pretty sure I’m a woman, huh? ;)
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no, but you do have all the very
best qualities of that gender.
(blush)
:)
:)
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 amjb Says:
Rush, Coulter, Malkin, Bachmann, Lindsey Close that Closet Door Graham, Bug killer criminal, fat porky Rove, Wide Stance Larry, Dim Wit Palin,etc …..it would be hard to find this many crazies in a mental hospital.
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should be ignore them?
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March 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 amooops, zoo upset me.
be = we
:O
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 amHow many times have I read this paragraph, more or less, in the last two weeks?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 amalpuz3 Says:
You’d think people would at least make some effort to genuinely read and respect the opinions of someone who clearly has more experience on a particular topic, but the truth is that many people here are only concerned with believing what they want to, and ignoring anything that doesn’t seem to conform with what their notion of the truth is. Honestly, it’s the last thing I thought I would find on a progressive site.
How many times have I read this paragraph, more or less, in the last two weeks?
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yeah, right out of the troll manual
that’s true. mike, really?
c’mon, what’s up here?
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March 3rd, 2009 at 12:36 amWe don’t dare ignore radicals like these that have such a thirst for power. Although, now that they are somewhat marginalized, they are more amusing than threatening. I’d be happy to piss on any of their graves, but for now we watch with a curious mix of humor and revulsion and a twinge of fear.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 amBlackhawk Mike Says:
Oh, and I’ve certainly expressed time and time again that I have no love for the Bush Administration, and that my reasons for doing what I did, and for being proud of it, have absolutely nothing to do with that awful administration.
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Expressed time and time again… where? On line? You said posting comments isn’t something you’re used to doing. Yet you’re having no trouble here either.
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You’d think people would at least make some effort to genuinely read and respect the opinions of someone who clearly has MORE EXPERIENCE on a particular topic, but the truth is that many people here are only concerned with believing what they want to, and ignoring anything that doesn’t seem to conform with what their notion of the truth is.
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Bingeau! (As the French would say…)
MORE EXPERIENCE… “what I say counts more…” the reason for the personal info.
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Honestly, it’s the last thing I thought I would find on a progressive site.
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What do you mean, “the last thing”???
You started out telling us all about the place, right from the git-go. How could you be surprised if you knew so much about it?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 amZooey, you make a very valid point. I can be a bit blunt. And I’m really not impressed with this site. In fact, I think it’s quite hypocritical in many ways. But that said, there is a HUGE difference between expressing an opinion regarding a site and its content and making personal attacks, isn’t there? I question the validity and values of a site that claims it cares about progress, and instead of being given an intelligent and well-thought out, perhaps progressive argument in return, I am essentially called a liar and a poo poo head. Doesn’t seem very progressive to me, and it really does remind me of the very things that make someone like Limbaugh a threat. It’s NO DIFFERENT. Absolutely no different at all.
And as for Limbaugh’s attack on Kerry, dude, I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, nor how that applies on any level to my combat experience or courage.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 amBlackhawk Mike,
Apparently you have served in Iraq or Afghanistan, and I appreciate your service.
I may be missing something, since I haven’t read all of these comments, but just because you served doesn’t mean you know everything about our history with the region, and the political implications and machinations (historical and current).
I’m also assuming that you are respecting the opinions of the knowledgeable commenters here.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 amEgad…
I think it’s Secret Agent x1! Come down out of his tree…
Night all… and don’t do anything I wouldn’t do…
I know… I know… I have a problem… ‘n yer all enablers.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:39 amI see the thread is in good hands.
Congratulations Zooey and Mike! When’s the big day?
I think you scared off Zeituni, that’s a relief. And as for Mike, there’s enough clues in what he wrote to say he is definetly a troll.
See you all later.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:40 amMike, I’m not going to judge or assume about your personal experiences in Iraq. You should come to understand that a soldier is ordered to go into a situation that they may not care to but will because that is their job. To obey an order. While the people “insulated” here in America didn’t see the personal level successes and failures, we did immerse ourselves in the rationale for the onset of this conflict. We have a military that is the finest in the world. I’m proud to have served and I’m proud of all who do.
The military is ran by the people and the people want to know how did Iraq get to where it is today? Where their WMD’s, links to AQ or did they have nukes.
Why was a secret agent’s identity disclosed and by whom? They don’t torture only because they say they’ve changed the definition of torture (ironically painful).
I won’t ever diminish your experiences but all the good that can be done in Iraq does not answer, nor does it justify, the reasons we went. Those are questions a society that believes in the rule of law need to ask and heard in a court of law.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:41 amBlackhawk Mike Says:
Zooey, you make a very valid point. I can be a bit blunt. And I’m really not impressed with this site. In fact, I think it’s quite hypocritical in many ways. But that said, there is a HUGE difference between expressing an opinion regarding a site and its content and making personal attacks, isn’t there? I question the validity and values of a site that claims it cares about progress, and instead of being given an intelligent and well-thought out, perhaps progressive argument in return, I am essentially called a liar and a poo poo head. Doesn’t seem very progressive to me, and it really does remind me of the very things that make someone like Limbaugh a threat. It’s NO DIFFERENT. Absolutely no different at all.
And as for Limbaugh’s attack on Kerry, dude, I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, nor how that applies on any level to my combat experience or courage.
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hi backup,
how are you doing?
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March 3rd, 2009 at 12:43 amYou’re very selective when it comes to responding, Mike.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:43 amCourage?
Blackhawk Mike,
I really must disagree with you that Rush Limbaugh and the commenters who think you’re a poo poo head are “no different.”
Really, isn’t that a bit of a stretch? After all, none of them has an audience of 20 millions listeners every single day, do they?
Some of us have been commenting on TP for over 4 years, and have gone through severe troll infestations, so you might understand a little better why your initial “wag of the finger” comment was not well received.
First impressions, Mike.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:44 amgood night all.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:44 amGoodnight, hellinabucket.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 amgood night mike,
nice try.
kiss eric for me.
:)
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 amHmm, perhaps what I’ve said here sounds like something you’ve read a great deal in the past few weeks because it’s true.
alpuz, cut me some slack! I’ve being attacked from all sides here!
Zooey, all I’m doing is expressing my opinion and my experience. What more can I do? I can say that I have learned a great deal regarding the Middle East, Islam, the people and culture or Iraq, but all I can do is come to the beliefs I have based on the experiences I have.
Trajan, lol, dude or lady or whatever, I don’t even know what a Troll is, much less who Eric is. I actuall came across this site a few days ago while looking at pics on a site called darkroastedblend, or something to that effect.
Please, someone tell me, what is as troll, and why am I being attacked so much here?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:51 amJeebus, joe!! The engagement ring isn’t even warm on my finger, and you’re kissing other guys. Sheesh… ;)
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:53 amHmmm… same ole song and dance. I think you’ve done a very dishonorable thing here tonight, Mike.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 amHe’s too tiresome to read all his comments so maybe I missed it but did mike ever answer this question hellinabucket asked him?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 amjoe cantwell, you heartbreaker you.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:55 amYes, I answered the MOS question in #338. I also have noticed that the link I provided in 337 has disapperared. Here it is again.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808/
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 am406.Blackhawk Mike Says: It seems to me that being as I have had an experience in Iraq, said experience serves to help forumlate an opinion that is far more experienced, inclusive, multi-faceted and so on, than the opinions formed by those who’ve come to their conclusions isolated in America. Does that not stand to reason?
It stands to reason only if you presume that others cannot also formulate conclusions that are just as valid and informed in America; without, of course, the limiting impediment of enforced mindset of the military community, heavily filtered internet, limited, prescribed news sources, and a tainted and compartmentalized boundary that presupposes the native populace as threats first, which the military in Iraq necessarily and absolutely ascribes to.
In short, I do not presume you to necessarily possess a superior or even objective understanding of the situation.
You’d think people would at least make some effort to genuinely read and respect the opinions of someone who clearly has more experience on a particular topic, but the truth is that many people here are only concerned with believing what they want to, and ignoring anything that doesn’t seem to conform with what their notion of the truth is.
I don’t believe you’ve necessarily demonstrated a more diverse understanding; there are others, non-military, whose information I hold in higher esteem, however much your claim to ‘clearly more experience.’ Your earlier lament about generalizations seems to be one of your own stumbling blocks.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 amBlackHawk Mike…
I added a recommend on your extensive # 268 response because of how you have responded and because of what you responded with. I hope you’ll stick around as you have done so far as you I think you defend your perspective pretty darn well.
It is late now so I’m going to quit after this comment and thus, if you choice to reply to it specifically I won’t be back until tomorrow, so no follow up from me won;t be a snub, I’ll just be in bed. I hope you stick around on TP.
So on closing from your latest comment you say:
“Heck, if some unit found out that 1000 pounds of weapons grade uranium was MISSING from Iraq, that this would be reported on the news?? Probably not”
This comment of yours IMHO illustrates a significant disconnect in perception that may well be a serious issue when the proposed draw-down, or redeployment or whatever name getting out of Iraq will be given, actually occurs.
Your perception of the biases of the MSM are clearly vastly different from mine.
As I understand it the Main Stream Media for the US forces in Iraq comrized of CNN, FOX and the ASF (the latter dominated by right wing radio such as Limbaigh).
The serving US military was blocked from liberal news sources, but Limbaugh and his ilk on CNN and FOX were given license to constantly press the claim that the MSM was biased. that liberals and Democrats didn’t ’support the troops’ because they ‘hated Bush’ etc for political reasons only.
In fact it was the liberal side of the mass-media that highlighted and pressed the Bush Administration over body armor, the contaminated crap that KBR supplied, the outrageous wages of mercenaries, the exploitation of soldiers like Pat Tillman and Jennifer(?)Lynch for political gain.
Did you EVER hear about THAT whilst you served? Unlikely.
Those media favored by Donald Rumsfeld and your C-in-C Bush attacked any notion that the US military was not being properly supported in their mission. We in the US were fed bullshit by CNN, FOX and numerous other outlets, and so were the serving soldiers. But WE had alternative news outlets to compare, whilst YOU did not.
FOX and right wing radio and the Bush administration itself claimed several times that WMD HAD been found. so YES the MEDIA DID REPORT IT, OUT LOUD, AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY—-but the never came up with the PROOF because there was none!
PROOF WOULD HAVE MADE THE CASE AND SILENCED THE LIBERAL COMPLAINTS! BUT THERE WAS NO PROOF!
Ergo the “liberal media” was right, and the OFFICIAL STORY was WRONG, despite their insistence on “no doubt” (CHENEY)and “we know where the weapons are” (RUMSFELD, claims which they have re-iterated for YEARS!
I’d suggest to you that just as I can’t appreciate being a soldier in Iraq, YOU can;t appreciate being a citizen in the US at this time. It;s a parallel common ground–we each “had to be there”. And whilst the tropps in Iraq were being told trhough FOX and ASF that all liberals were traitors because they didn’t agree with the war and Bush’s policies and ever changing rationales.
We were also being told that we were traitors, EVEN as we ‘fought’ for the fallen to be given full public honor instead of being shipped as commercial freight; that sufficient body armor be provided when it was clearly lacking; that contractors should stop making a PROFIT off the needs of ordinary soliders; that wounded veterans be given proper healthcare, that National Guard and Reserves SHOULDN;t lose their jobs.
WE LIBERALS were branded by Bush and his minions in the MSM as TRAITORS! Whilst the Washington warmongers who ordered you and your brothers and sisters to Iraq CUT your benefits, underequipped you and outsourced supply and logistics for profit–NOT for the mission!
Mike, you are pretty well informed about the roots of WWII, so do some research on the conflict YOU were invlved in, which is still ongoing. Look up the proganda and public perception. ChHeck out Media Matters and TP and Crooks and Liars. Check out the Washington Post.Search by date and story.
If you do so I think you will find things as clear yet as nuanced as understand the past history of Germany to be. But in the present.
Give it a shot. please.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 amBlackhawk Mike Says:
Please, someone tell me, what is as troll, and why am I being attacked so much here?
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:51 am
I told you in my post at 12:44 a.m.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:01 amzoo, no worries.
just a metaphorical thing.
‘night!
:)
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:01 amGoodnight, joe. :)
Thank you, Trajan75. I appreciate it.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:10 am436.Blackhawk Mike Says: Please, someone tell me, what is as troll, and why am I being attacked so much here?
From my viewpoint, you’ve posted exhibiting a presumption that your claimed experience is ‘clearly’ superior to those who have not served in Iraq. I categorically reject what I view is a prejudgment as to the value and informed opinions of the other, non-military posters.
The several comments about the ‘progressive-ness’ of some comments and questioning other posters’ understanding of progressive ideals is also not something that will endear you to any thread.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:14 amHanshiro, I’m not saying that my opinions are necessarily better or more accurate than anyone else’s. I think THIS is a rather large disconnect here. All I can do is express these things I have done, experienced, and what I believe. Is that right? No. Is it wrong? No, and neither is anyone else’s opinions here.
It seems to me that both you and 5th estate believe a great deal of, what I can only call crap, that, at least from my perspective, isn’t true at all. These assumptions and generalizations about the army are so far from the truth, and it scares me! We learned about EVERYTHING while we were in Iraq, and in the army in general. We knew ALL ABOUT the issues with KBR, the body armor, the Nat Guard soldier who stood up and questioned that ass Rumsfeld about better armor. There’s this assumption that the military is this organization of brainwashed, right wing minions, are lead a totally sheltered life and so on, but it really couldn’t be further from the truth!! In this day and age, it’s impossible to do this anyway, given the nature of the internet and other communication technologies. I mean, we even had internet access over there, and we could visit any site we wanted to, we just weren’t allowed to discuss anything that compromised what we call OPSEC. Heck, I used to sit there and fire off emails to my buddies while listening to NPR (which, incidentally, is a station I listen to on a daily basis).
I really can’t continue arguing the same thing over and over here. So we don’t agree about some things. Big deal! Who cares? While I don’t think we should have invaded Iraq, I do believe something good can come out of it, and if you don’t agree, fine.
But this whole Troll thing, can we stop with this? I don’t know how many times I have asked what a troll is, and asked for a way to prove that I am not a troll and that I’m telling the truth (I have yet to get an answer). But I’m pretty much done with the troll crap at this point.
Is there something I’m doing wrong with the links??
I’ll try that again.
Anyway, I’m beat. There are some good people here, but there are some ugly people here too. Not sure if I am going to stick around. There are some serious wack jobs here.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:18 amTrajan, for the last time, whatever it is you think about me is 100% wrong. And for the last time, what can I do to prove this to you?
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:20 amMarch 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 am
284. Blackhawk Mike Says: What I see here is hypocrisy, as liberals are often claiming to be the open minded, respectful ones, and yet I see a LOT of hatred. Just as republican leaders aren’t living up to the standards and values they claim, many democrats and liberals here aren’t either. I hold my party up to high standards. While I am a moderate, I voted and campaigned for (and even got to meet!!) President Obama. His message was one of unity, and that’s what I want to see.
One point here Mike:
I do find it unsettling that you equate a party/group whose last 8 years have consisted of Constitutional violations, outright torture, institutionalized mission to exclude all opposing viewpoints such as with the K Street Project, illegal detentions, illegal spying, illegal war, over 1 million citizens of a sovereign nation killed, corruption of government oversight, faulty no-bid contractors, death squads, lawless civilian murders, unprecedented propaganda, economic meltdown, Abramoff, corporate cronyism, missing billions of dollars, pallets of cash flown to Iraq, suspension of freedoms, forced commerce with Monsanto, the list goes on…
..and you equate that group with the quite understandable outrage generated on ‘liberal’ sites and in response and reaction to such unconscionable incompetence and malfeasance of the bush administration. To me it’s comparing apples and super novas…
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 amHanshiro, if I have come off as if I believe that my opinion is superior to others because of my experience in Iraq, then I apologize. That is not my intent. However, I do believe that what I have to say about my experience should NOT be categorically rejected simply because it contradicts yours or anyone else’s opinions.
Yeah, you’re right, I have questioned the values of this site and it’s goals and so on. I guess I’m used to the debates I have with my friends, where, instead of silly insults, we attempt to provide a convincing argument that supports whatever side we’re on.
Now, I’ve tried to post a link several times here, and it hasn’t come up. Can someone please tell me how to do this?
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:25 amBlackhawk Mike,
I’m guessing it’s too soon to ask you not to be defensive, but you might consider it. You seem to have valuable experiences and knowledge to offer, but surely you must understand that we have experience and knowledge as well. Frankly, 5th Estate and hanshiro are two of our most knowledgeable people, among many others.
FYI sometimes there are problems posting links on TP. Be persistent. And this probably isn’t the best time to get a real sense of what TP is like, since they’re still finishing up coverage of the CPAC clusterf uck.
Goodnight, all.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 amHanshiro, I do this because this is a Liberal site. I like to argue. I totally agree with EVERYTHING you listed, except that I don’t believe the last 8 years reflects what I believe are true republican values, rather, a horribly corrupt administration under the guise of a particular party.
I will also say, however, that MANY of the things you list are open to interpretation, and I would seriously question your sources if I wanted to really get into it. How do you know all the things you have mentioned are true? How do we know anything anymore? Therein lies a great deal of difference. There’s simply too much subjectivity around these days, and not enough actual critical thinking. I question everything, even if I find myself believing it. You’re only seeing one side here.
But to make things short, I just like to play devils advocate. It helps me learn.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:32 amI can see your link, Mike.
Actually, I’d want to see an article with fewer “if,” “maybe,” and “could be” qualifiers, but I don’t have time to do further searching on this right now. If I remember correctly, this sarin was found to be inert.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:35 amOh, to add to my last comment, I would do the same if I was arguing with a conservative or if I was on a conservative site, at least the few times I have been.
Trajan, you’re wrong buddy. Sorry! I don’t know who Eric is, I don’t know who Ali is, and I really don’t care at this point.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 amEverybody left of center knew extremely well that Saddam had chemical weapons in the 1980’s. They were opposed to the Reagan and GHWBush administrations arming and supporting Saddam. Everyone left of center knew that Saddam used them against the Kurdish civilians in Iraq when the Kurds were on the side of Iran in that war. It was Reagan and GHWBush who said it was not Iraq, but Iran that used them.
That is not the question. The question is whether or not Iraq had WMD in late 2002 and early 2003. There were many international weapons inspectors looking at hundreds of sites in Iraq and they could find nothing. They begged the Bush administration to suggest where to look if they were so sure Iraq had them. The Bush administration ordered them out so they could begin the war.
Did you know that at the time we invaded, the US had 24,000 TONS of sarin and vx? Anniston Alabama had over 77,000 rockets filled with sarin and vx!
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 amBlackhawk Mike Says:
I mean, we even had internet access over there, and we could visit any site we wanted to, we just weren’t allowed to discuss anything that compromised what we call OPSEC. Heck, I used to sit there and fire off emails to my buddies while listening to NPR (which, incidentally, is a station I listen to on a daily basis).
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Funny… earlier you claimed that “posting comments is not something I’m really used to doing, for the reasons being demonstrated here.” And now? You just sit there and fire off emails to all your buddies.
Sorry, dude… your answers are just too inconsistent.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 am.
Q U E S T I O N:
If what these (R)ushpublicans aren’t the “REAL” values of the Republicans…
… Then why are (R)epublicans continuing to listen to Rushie-poo?
If what the Conservatives have done to this Nation over the last decade isn’t supported by the “REAL” (R)epublican value system…
… Then how and why are (R)epublicans voting for them?
Walk…
… Meet talk!
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March 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 amThe 24,000 TONS of sarin and vx that WE had was not inert!!!
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:52 amWe got a Blackhawk down. We got a Blackhawk down.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:55 amRun him for Prez. Show us what you really are, GOP.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 amZooey, I would want to see something more concrete if I were you too. But I did see the rounds, at least in the experience I had, and they were marked as chemical munitions. To be fair, it was later reported to me that it was specifically sarin.
But you know, it’s really a moot point. I do hope someone reads this: I only mention this experience to demonstrate that intelligence gathering is not a perfect science, and that it seems to me that there was at least some reason to believe there was SOMETHING in the way of WMDs there. GIven all the history of Iraq’ use of WMDs, all it takes is a few agents seeing “something” that appears to be a chemical gas round, and there you go! It’s called the ‘fog of war.’ That said, I don’t really believe that WMDs was the reason for invading Iraq. Besides, why would the Bush Admin. use WMDs as a reason, and then (if that admin. really was as evil as many here claim), why the HELL wouldn’t the plant some WMDs?? They certainly would have AMPLE chances to do so.
I just don’t believe that Bush was this mega-evil liar, nor do I believe Obama is satan. I really think both people did what they thought was right, only that Bush’s idea of right was, well very wrong. SO MUCH of this really is open to interpretation. For instance: A democrat might argue (and I would agree) that parts of the Patriot Act violated constitutional rights (and I do know that part was found in a court of law to be unconsitutional), while a republican would argue that it was necessary to secure the nation. On the flipside, a republican would argue that many of the forms of gun control supported by many democrats are unconsitutional.
SO MUCH is open to interpretation. We’re all people, liberals and conservatives and everyone in between. And very few things in life, I have found, are ever as black and white as many people would like to believe they are.
And zooey, your respect and kindness means a great deal to me right now. After all the shit talking and attack I’ve received, well, it makes me feel better to know that SOMEONE here can disagree and still be respectful.
So zooey, can you tell me what this trajan guy is talking about? Should I just ignore him? I’m guessing he thinks that I’m really someone else using a new name. Is that what a troll is? And is there any way to prove that I’m not who he thinks I am, or should I just let it go??
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 amHow is writing emails and posting comments on a political forum anywhere NEAR the same thing? Sorry man, you’re just twisting things around because you don’t want to acknowledge that I’m the real deal.
So, I will ask you for the 1000th time, how can I prove to you that I’m telling the truth? Ignore me this time, and I’ll finally know that you’re just another shit talker.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:01 amYeah, another blackhawk down. That’s, what, the second time around for that joke? Funny making jokes about people dying in combat, isn’t it?
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:02 amANSWER
SOME self proclaimed republicans listen to Rush and SOME self proclaimed republicans voted for them, but many this time around voted for Obama, hence the landslide win. My father is one of them.
And if you claim to be such a liberal, why aren’t you doing what President Obama asked of you and try and unify rather than divide?? Huh?
Is it really so hard to see this? If you believe that the Bush Admin. was SO clever in manipulating people, then isn’t is POSSIBLE that many republicans are also vicitms of this manipulation too?
Talk, meet WALK.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:07 amThere were 935 recorded lies from the Bush administration about the urgent necessity of invading Iraq. Do you remember “trying to aquire yellowcake from Africa”? Aluminum tubes? Drones? Meeting in Prague? Ties to al Qaeda? Shack in the north? Mobile weapons labs? All known to be lies before they were told!
What do you think of the US’s 24,000 TONS of sarin and vx? And Anniston’s 77,000 rockets filled with sarin and vx?
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 amWell, I’m off to bed.
Hey, no matter who you are or what you think, I really do wish everyone here the best in their future. Maybe I’m wrong, but I do see a lot of hate in here, and it ain’t good. I do believe that the key to our future lies in our unity and our respect for all. It’s true that we must continue to be aware of all evils in this world, but our future is a bright one, and after 8 years of division, I’d much rather look to our president now and BELIEVE. After all, we’re all in this together.
Good luck and good night.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 amI don’t think the 1,304,200 dying in Iraq so PNAC can control that part of the world is funny at all! I find it extremely depressing.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 amkinda ignored our 24,000 TONS and 77,000 rockets of sarin and vx, huh?
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:15 am451. Blackhawk Mike Says: Hanshiro, I’m not saying that my opinions are necessarily better or more accurate than anyone else’s. I think THIS is a rather large disconnect here.
Mike, this statement by you is very clear:
406.Blackhawk Mike Says: It seems to me that being as I have had an experience in Iraq, said experience serves to help forumlate an opinion that is far more experienced, inclusive, multi-faceted and so on, than the opinions formed by those who’ve come to their conclusions isolated in America.
The descriptors “far more experienced,” cannot be mistaken for their meaning. I continue to disagree with the sentiment.
It seems to me that both you and 5th estate believe a great deal of, what I can only call crap, that, at least from my perspective, isn’t true at all. These assumptions and generalizations about the army are so far from the truth, and it scares me! We learned about EVERYTHING while we were in Iraq, and in the army in general. We knew ALL ABOUT the issues with KBR, the body armor, the Nat Guard soldier who stood up and questioned that ass Rumsfeld about better armor. There’s this assumption that the military is this organization of brainwashed, right wing minions, are lead a totally sheltered life and so on, but it really couldn’t be further from the truth!!
My post comprised this:
The limiting impediment of enforced mindset of the military community,
This is, and always will be true. A military mindset is entirely different, with different emphasis than a non-military one.
heavily filtered internet,
“Heavily,” the wrong word, perhaps rather more ‘monitored.’
limited, prescribed news sources,
and a tainted and compartmentalized boundary that presupposes the native populace as threats first, which the military in Iraq necessarily and absolutely ascribes to.
This being the green zone, of course and as to the view of the native populace, it is indisputable.
I wouldn’t exactly call these statements “crap.” Not as accurate, but certainly not inaccurate as you seem to portray either.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 amWe must know the truth to prevent it from happening again. If we continue to believe a bunch of fairy tales about us being the good guys and the invadee being the bad guys—-then we will continue to do it. We have been doing it for at least 111 years.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:21 amSteele needs to remove his lips from Limbaughs fat butt.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:23 amOK Keith, just one more. I know about the forged documents regarding Hussein attempting to get yellocake from Africa. I also know that there was already a great deal of yellocake already in Iraq, that the UN and others were already well aware of, and that a great deal of it went missing. But yep, Bush lied. A lot. I’m not arguing that. Does it seems like I am??
But I didn’t know that they were a known to be lies before they were told. How do you know this??
Guys, just to you know, I’m really not some right wing “troll.” You can stop trying to convince me that Bush was a bad president. I know.
As for the US possessing WMDs, so what?
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:23 amhanshiro,
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:26 amI totally agree! And just us being in 177 countries should tell a thinking person something!
They think it is perfectly fine us being in 177 countries cause we’re the good guys. Further proof of our altruism [snark].
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May I just say…
… That the current number of crisis, and yes there is a difference between a crisis and a problem, of which this Nation is facing many, that the way we get there be successful, NO?
It is going to REQUIRE many different approaches…
… There is no “ONE FIX” to all “our” ills.
Therefore, no matter the combination, I choose success over failure…
… For where is the success in that failure?
May the chickens of “I HOPE HE FAILS“…
… Come home to roost, WELL, for this man (R)ush.
.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:27 am460. Blackhawk Mike Says: I will also say, however, that MANY of the things you list are open to interpretation, and I would seriously question your sources if I wanted to really get into it.
Any time.
How do you know all the things you have mentioned are true? How do we know anything anymore? There’s simply too much subjectivity around these days, and not enough actual critical thinking. I question everything, even if I find myself believing it. You’re only seeing one side here.
We see whose sources and evidence for taking a position holds water or if, as the debate progresses, one party is delusional. Retreating to a “how do we really know anything?” position is defined as a fallacy as are many other refuges for those looking to exit a losing argument. I will call you on it if I catch you attempting it.
Until next time…
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:27 amAs for the US possessing WMDs, so what?
What did I tell you?! Perfect response!
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:28 amActually, rhf, we ARE the only country to do that! :)
What’s 24,000 TONS and 77,000 rockets when we can make up shit about Saddam?
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:33 amRep. HateFacts, dude, I’m really not a republican. And secondly, that missing yellowcake is old news. Just do a google search on it. Much of it has been found, supposedly. But it’s even reported in wikipedia, among several other places. At any rate, it’s very well documented. Why do you ignore it? Just type in “missing iraqi yellowcake.” It’s too easy. Anyway, yellowcake is far from fissionable material. It does not contain anywhere NEAR the necessary amount of the unstable isotope U-235 to be fissionable, and it’s so impure that it can barely even be used as a dirty bomb.
I have NEVER cited opinion pieces. I’m no fool. I cite as close as I can to a primary document.
Yep, we used two atomic bombs on Japan. Those poor Japanese. They must have been forced to do atrocious acts like the Rape of Nanking, attacking Pearl Harbor! And those poor Germans too! Yep, evil America should have let those two continue to murder millions. lol.
Gimme a freakin break, people. If you hate this country so much, really, just leave. And I KNOW you’ve all heard THAT before. But if you really think we’re so evil, why would you EVER stay?
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:43 am#451 Blackhawk Mike Says: It seems to me that both you and 5th estate believe a great deal of, what I can only call crap, that, at least from my perspective, isn’t true at all.
“We knew ALL ABOUT the issues with KBR, the body armor, the Nat Guard soldier who stood up and questioned that ass Rumsfeld about better armor.”
The KBR and body armor stuff, I think you will find, was highlighted by sites like Think Progress, the likes of which were then denigrated by the most fervent supporters of the war and thus, by their own logic the most fervent supporters of the troops (NOT the same thing).
So your apparent disinterest in not taking Limbaugh to task as the de-facto representative of the GOP that intitated this illegal expensive and painful war and occupation and still either defends it or now ( perhaps worse) ignores it puzzling to me and to many here.
Some though, are clearly set against you, but certainly not all–myself, hanshiro, Zoey to name a few.
But with regards to perception and information, I think there’s some common ground to be found which is relevant here and now and which will be relevant in the next few years. ANd that has to do with our respective understanding with what the hell really happened, over here and over there, and how it was all portrayed.
I;m going to push some buttons here:
How’s the reconstruction going, 6 years after Mission accomplished?
Apparently it;s the medias fault that we don;t know how well it’s been going because if “it bleeds it leads”.
WHich is funny because when the US was liberating Iraq, the EXACT same MEDIA with the SMAE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF IT, who cheered the whole enterprise on, couldn’t stop telling us how great everything was going—in the beginning.
The trouble was, corrupt contractors and an ‘ungrateful local population kept getting in the way of every effort the soldiers on the ground were making to clean up the mess and set the country to rights.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:47 amThe reason we in the US heard nothing about successful reconstructions efforts was becasue there were NONE.
There was no stability to permit reconstruction because there weren;t enough troops int eh first place and the CPA was staffed by political appointees with no experience.
The Army got SCREWED,the US public got screwed, the Irawqis got screwed, anyone who tried to make a difference got screwed by the politicians in charge and the sad fact is that that even the most gung-ho soldiers got screwed.
And the mass-media, in bed with those who wanted this war, helped and profited.
We are all paying for this shambles, and the soldiers are paying more than most.
I f you think Rumsfeld was an ass for his “the Army you;ve got, not the Army you want” remark? Well welcome back to the country and the media that informs the voting public—it;s what you’ve got rather than what you want.
You deserve better, and you aren’t going to get it form the Republicans and their cheerleaders in the media.
Think on that. please.
The reason it was so critical a case that Saddam was attempting to get more yellowcake is because that would demonstrate a desire to increase his production of fissionable material. The yellowcake he had was WELL documented and continually inspected, so he couldn’t use it. Man, do you guys do ANY RESEARCH AT ALL, or do you just spew crap? My god, read something before you open your mouth!
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:48 am460.Blackhawk Mike Says: Hanshiro, I do this because this is a Liberal site.
Which is true, but does not presuppose the anger the last administration engendered is out of line or automatically ‘liberal hate.’ Your desire to categorize in labels similarly to a rightwing talking point is a catalyst for aggressive response. Reducing individuals down with generalities in order to preach to them about their reducing individuals down to generalities comes across as hypocritical and disingenuous.
I totally agree with EVERYTHING you listed, except that I don’t believe the last 8 years reflects what I believe are true republican values, rather, a horribly corrupt administration under the guise of a particular party.
This is known as a fallacy. It’s called the “No True Scotsman” fallacy and it’s a cowardly attempt by those who invoke it to distance a guilty entity from their crimes. The republicans and their offices and governing bodies voted in solidarity to advance the most destructive administration in history, additionally working with K street to ostracize any opposing access and virtually shutting out any opposing committee input. Only when they were soundly thrashed did they wave the flag of ‘bipartisanship.’ Like it or not, they are the representatives of what we understand today as republican values.
Perhaps a more accurate version of your statement is that what you believe are, or were, republican values are no longer true.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:48 am491.Blackhawk Mike Says: Gimme a freakin break, people. If you hate this country so much, really, just leave. And I KNOW you’ve all heard THAT before. But if you really think we’re so evil, why would you EVER stay?
Mike, for someone who is decrying divisive hate speech, this is not the most sparkling example of extending respect for your audience in pursuit of serving as an exemplar of your own cause.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:53 amBlackhawk, just because our info is different from yours does not mean that we do not read/are uneducated. I have been reading history books for fifty years. Can you say the same? I minored in history at a university that in the top ten in the US in History.
From 2001-03, the administration made 935 recorded false statements about the threat from Iraq:
http://projects.publicintegrity.org/WarCard/
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 amhanshiro.. smart sourcing in your counterpoints and very salient.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:57 amMight you stop by the Zoo some time because there;s a whole topic we’ve been skirting around that derives from Blackhawk Mikes comments and the zoo has the ‘room’ for more nuanced topics. The subject I have in mind is roughly ‘What Returning Vets Think’.
497.5th Estate Says: hanshiro.. smart sourcing in your counterpoints and very salient. Might you stop by the Zoo some time because there;s a whole topic we’ve been skirting around that derives from Blackhawk Mikes comments and the zoo has the ‘room’ for more nuanced topics. The subject I have in mind is roughly ‘What Returning Vets Think’.
Thanks, but I dunno how much I can bring to the table. I’m not a returning vet.
The Zoo?
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:59 amHanshiro, I find just a tad hypocritical that you can judge me for banding around labels, when the labels used by most on this site are FAR more denigrating. How is it that you can question me for using respectful labels, and yet not question so many others who use clearly disrespecful, divisive labels? Those that truly lump all people into groups. Huh??
So you’re saying that anyone who calls him or herself a republican should be condemnned because of the actions of one administration? That’s absolutely ridiculous. I see the Bush Admin. and the entire Republican party as being too completely seperate things. The Republican party, just like any other party, has been a fluid concept. It has constantly changed. I agree that it recently has changed for the worse, but I would argue that it has become seperated from what the original intentions of the Repulican party were.
Or perhaps those values are still, and will always be there, and they just need to find them again. I find this to be true of many organizations through the years. Let’s face it, we are humans. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. We get lost VERY easily. But the bottom line is that I just don’t think that the Bush Admin. is a good representation of what conservatism actually is. Case in point: Bush expanded the government EXPONENTIALLY, he spent trillions, he formed unconsitutional legislation, and in the end, he used socialist economic techniques to bail out banks. All of these things go agaist basic conservative beliefs, as you well know.
Hmm, I’m detecting a bit of projection on your part: Question me for lumping things into categories, while lumping all republicans into a category of guilty based on the actions of one administration.
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:00 amDo you remember “trying to aquire yellowcake from Africa”? Aluminum tubes?
Drones?
Meeting in Prague?
Ties to al Qaeda?
Shack in the north?
Mobile weapons labs?
ALL known to be lies before they were told!
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:01 amhanshiro, Hit Zooey’s name. It’s the link to The Zoo.
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:03 am.
#472 Blackhawk Mike Said:
O.K. Before we begin…
Housekeeping rule #1 – CLOSE TAGS when done.
Mike, since you seem to know who and what I “CLAIM” to be, or why we are here at T.P., as a whole, us regulars are pretty much are in agreement with each other. Sure we have varying views and approaches, and THAT is what we respect about T.P. What we have the most in common is the Progressiveness we seek from our National Leadership. Obviously since you’re familiar with T.P. then you would know how upset many of us are with the lack of Progressive Leadership, sometimes, if any America is getting.
As a matter of fact, we’ve lamented the times our so called “Progressive Leadership” tossed much of the “Liberal” Founding Principles on the floor from it’s perch upon that table.
I guess what I’m saying here is that it may not look like a “unity” party (aka Kumbaya) to an outsider…
… Especially an outsider who’s intro began with a “THIS PLACE SUX” rant at post #113 for attention (read TROLLING).
TROLL? Did I call you that?
Yep.
Now, what’s this “victim card” obsession about the GOP…
… Can we try, Americans? Isn’t it Americans being victimized?
And of course it’s gonna look divisive…
…When you TROLL and we call you on it!
Now, like others have said, you do have some good views. But man, give it a rest. You’ve attempted to PWN this thread all freakin night. Six and a half hours now. Take a breath…
… And embolden is your friend. Use, don’t abuse.
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March 3rd, 2009 at 3:04 am#480 cd,
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:12 amBut the (R)ush ‘cigar’ is far play, NO?
499. Blackhawk Mike Says: Hanshiro, I find just a tad hypocritical that you can judge me for banding around labels, when the labels used by most on this site are FAR more denigrating.
This is also a fallacy, tu quoque, also a cowardly attempt by those who invoke it to justify their behavior by citing others who indulge. Particularly odious when you call others on things you, yourself are actively committing. It’s not encouraging to extend the benefit of doubt for your claimed objectivity and observances about various sites.
So you’re saying that anyone who calls him or herself a republican should be condemnned because of the actions of one administration?
Not at all. I’ll repeat what I said: The main governing bodies of the republican party voted, supported in solidarity with the disastrous policies of the bush administration. The statement is quite clear. it’s tantamount to an official endorsement. Not all republicans should be condemned, however, by the same token and due to actions of their official bodies, they will suffer the stigma of the past catastrophic 8 years by calling themselves ‘republicans.’
But the bottom line is that I just don’t think that the Bush Admin. is a good representation of what conservatism actually is.
Yet, there was virtually overwhelming support for bush’s policies and extension of executive power among the main conservative organizations, from the AEI to the Heritage Foundation. There are many, many others.
Hmm, I’m detecting a bit of projection on your part: Question me for lumping things into categories, while lumping all republicans into a category of guilty based on the actions of one administration.
Please don’t make the enormous mistake of launching accusations on my motives, Mike. So far, I’ve presented demonstrable evidence in support of my position and pointed out baldly obvious behavior on your phrasing, as you did pose the question about why you were generating negative response. You asked the question. Presuming to psychoanalyze me through a site post would degenerate this very quickly.
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 amKeith,
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 amI though it was “DEMOCRACY DUST” Bush had Powell tell the UN we was spreading around.
Wow Keith. You’re really that old? And yet you’ve totally ignored my response to your question. Sorry, but it seems to me that if you’re going to pass judgment and act as if you are educated about a subject (and this doesn’t necessarily apply to you), then you should have at least a basic understand of the aspects of said subject that are more or less agreed upon. Make sense?
It is hard to know what really is true and what isn’t. I’m a history major as well, and there are just SO many things through history that continue to be discussed, analyzed, interpreted, and so on. To really and truly validate the findings of the Center for Public Integrity, it would take hours and hours and hours or cross referencing and so on. These things do interest me to a certain extent. But unless one does all of this work, it would be unfair to jump to the conclusion that this, or ANY OTHER SOURCE is correct. At some point, we must decide what is truth (though philsophically speaking, truth may not even exist, especially if you subscribe to existentialist notions of reality, which I try and steer clear of as it landed me in a horrible depression). It’s not that I do or don’t believe these things you have shown me, it’s that, as I have said before, there are far more important things, at least in my life, that concern me.
And yes, Hanshiro, I too am human. And I too can get angry and express things which go against my core values. I’ve been trying to discuss things on this forum for several hours, and I’m still finding myself being called a republican, which clearly demonstrates to me that people really aren’t reading that I am saying at all. They’re not giving me the fair chance I have given them. And I CERTAINLY did NOT start on this site by attacking anyone, so you can attempt to validate the personal attacks made by others all you want, but any way you cut it, they are divisice, disrespectful, often misleading and untrue, and above all else, do NOT reflect a progressive mentality or true democratic values.
So, that said, I rest my case.
Joke away…and have a great night, all!
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 am509.Blackhawk Mike Says: so you can attempt to validate the personal attacks made by others all you want,
I attempted no such thing, Mike. Please don’t misrepresent what I wrote.
…but any way you cut it, they are divisice, disrespectful, often misleading and untrue, and above all else, do NOT reflect a progressive mentality or true democratic values.
You sound angry, Mike. Perhaps you may be gaining insight into dealing with what you perceive to be a group indulging in destructive ‘hate speech’ and indifference, not to mention your not being listened to.
Now, imagine dealing with it for eight…long…years.
Mike, you couldn’t make it through one thread without lashing out, even at people who were responding with civility and accuracy, yet you step into a progressive thread and presume to condescend to people and dictate behavior to those who’ve watched the republican party destroy a nation and a Constitution they love.
Leave the arrogance and presumption at the door Mike, and come back when you can hold your own in a civil debate instead of regressing to the equivalent of an abusive tantrum post.
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:32 amBlackhawk Mike: “All of these things go agaist basic conservative beliefs, as you well know.”
AH HA!
Mike, such is the pace of the blogosphere that there’s a lot of tit-for-tat, and that’s very true of politics too.
(And yeah I know I said several comments ago that I was done with commenting tonight, but I couldn’t help myself).
IF I understand you correctly by your latest comment, you are a conservative, rather than a Republican.
It’s my understanding (shared by many here I’m sure)that a conservative philosophy has informed and directed GOP politics and policy since Reagan.
That’s not a leftist label by the way—”conservatism” has been promoted proudly by the GOP since Reagan and especially by the Republicans of the Clinton years until the present.
Unfortunately conservative-driven policies have culminated in an almighty mess (supported by some conservative Democrats as well, of course).
So I think it rather behooves you to explain what conservatism is supposed to be, rather than what it apparently has become, and what policies the conservatism that “actually is” might provide for the national benefit—because clearly the GOP of the last 8-12 years has strayed far from whatever you think conservatism really is, otherwise by now we should all be rich and happy, not depressed and in record debt and still engaged in two wars on foreign soil with nothing much to show from either of them.
And once you;ve defined conservatism as you believe it realyy is, and can articulate its beenfits, the next step wopuld be to have a political party that properly reflects the conservative ideal that should benefit the majority of Americans, and that can stand on its own by convincing argument and then by the proof of practice.
At the moment your options are limited. Are you going to stick with the Republicans and leading conservative Rush Limbaugh? Or do you think a new entity must be created, because you sound pretty pissed off about Bush and the GOP who identify themselves as conservatives, and who I for one also see as conservatives.
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:33 amIf the GOP is giving ‘real conservatism’ as you understnad a bad name, well what next?
I wonder what name the ubiquitous“Reasonable Republican Guy” will use next time?
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:37 am.
I’m an enabler?
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March 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 amMISSION ACCOMPLISHED:
BM derailed the thread.
His mission is complete.
Hundreds of posts and nobody’s talking about Limpdick anymore.
Good work to the little GOP operative who played this thread like a 2 dollar fiddle, although, you all certainly deserve a decent amount of credit.
March 3rd, 2009 at 4:57 amHey, wait a minute. Aren’t the Repubs going to boil Rush in oil for helping Obama get elected?
Rush helped Obama get elected when he urged his army of degenerates to vote for Obama in one of the Democratic primaries. At that time, Rush was more afraid of Hillary than he was of Obama.
Rush also said that America was too racist to elect a black President. ;)
Rush Limbaugh and his followers helped Obama get elected. This makes them traitors to the Republican Party, but the Repubs are apparently too stupid to realize it. Must be the drugs.
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:51 amMichael Steele….welcome to Uncle Tomdom.
March 3rd, 2009 at 5:52 amIf I had told my friends 6 months ago that the Republicans would be kissing Rushs As@ they would of never believed me. You can’t make this crap up. Do these people think they are going to win elections with 40 million votes. 20 from Rush and about 20 million ignorant red necks from the south and the religious clan. But heh its a great show. I am grinning ear to ear as I type this. I just can’t believe these idio ts are doing this to themselves. It’s a dream come true. God love them.
March 3rd, 2009 at 6:27 amIf Steele thinks kissing Limbaughs cyst is humitiating, wait til he gets on the fund raising circuit. I can see it now: Hey boy, when you’re done with your speech, bus the tables and wash the dishes. We’ll be in the members lounge having a cigar.
March 3rd, 2009 at 6:43 amWe need to come up with ideas to make the republican party members feel like they have some power.
Any suggestions? The poor things are so confused!
March 3rd, 2009 at 6:54 amAbout the YELLOWCAKE URANIUM. I still believe this version:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteen_words
Rocco Martino broke into the Niger Embassy in Rome, Italy (Dick Cheney and Scooter Libby also were in Italy at some point before the 2003 invasion of Iraq!), stole Niger letterhead, and it was this letterhead that was forged to look like Saddam Hussein was trying to purchase yellowcake uranium from Niger.
The Democrats who were on the Senate Intelligence Committee at the time the authorization to use force against Iraq came up had seen these forgeries, knew they were forgeries, and did not vote in favor of the Iraq war bill (Diane Feinstein was the only one if I remember correctly)! Yep, they knew they were being duped big time by the Bush Regime!
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:00 amWho wants to bet Blackhawk Mike weighs 145 pounds, has long feminine fingers, and stays inside his house when it rains outside?
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:21 amBlackhawk Mike Says:
Rep. HateFacts, dude, I’m really not a republican. And secondly, that missing yellowcake is old news. Just do a google search on it. Much of it has been found, supposedly.
He’s talking about the yellowcake that the arms inspectors already knew about, and knew the location of. It had nothing to do with the yellowcake the Bush administration was searching for. This is just one example that republicans and conservatives never tell the truth, when a self-serving half-truth will better serve the purpose. I haven’t met one yet who doesn’t try to sound reasonable, yet will lie, when it helps their argument.
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:37 amBlackhawk Mike says:
All this website seems to do is paint all republicans/conservatives as extremist fools. This is the EXACT type of divisive nonsense…..
If the truth hurts, just ignore it, like you did with the yellowcake lie, tool.
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:41 amStop giving this gas bag air time, start focusing on real politics, and maybe he’ll go away!
Don’t like the new face of the republican party? As long as he’s front and center, your party and ideology is in the crapper.
Shouldn’t you be on rightwing sites, trying to convince them to ostracize Rush for the good of the party?
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:49 amGood Morning All:
Looks like I missed another whack a troll (hyphen key quit working) night. I have read the comments and now have two questions.
1 Is Zooey male or female?
2 When is the wedding?
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:55 amWith Limbaugh, the GOP and “conservatives” get just what they deserve. The face and voice of the GOP is a racist misogynist who will keep the GOP on the fringes as long as he has a mic.
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:59 amThe new look of the repug party. Rush(the drug addicted comic), Ann(I’m a man) Coulter, You be da man Bachman, Palin(I can see Russia from my window), Just say NO Cantor, Jindal(the Zombie), and Joe(I’m not a real plumber) plumber. If you tried to make a movie with this cast of clowns you would be laughed out of town. You couldn’t make this shit up, if you tried.
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:27 amHe’s asked for President Obama and called for President Obama to fail. That’s his view. And that’s what he has enunciated. And whenever a Republican criticizes him, they have to run back and apologize to him and say they were misunderstood. He is the voice and the intellectual force and energy behind the Republican Party.
-Rahm Emanuel 3/1/09
Looks like he was right on the money, eh?
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:33 amliberalism always generates the opposite of what it was intended
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:36 ampoor little liberals still hanging on rushs’ every word
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:39 ambuilt4us Says: Nothing. All you can hear, is the air rushing between his ears.
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:49 amThe Steele Token bows down to Flush Limpballs in record time to break to old record set by Mark Sanford.
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:55 amDr. Hussein Matt Says:
“We Hope America Fails”
~2009 RNC Motto
But of course with a hip-hop song to go with it.
“Wez hopez Merika failz”
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:56 am[zippty-zippty-zippty-zippty]
Brought you by DJ Rusho Steele-O.
[zippty-zippty-zippty-zippty]
Trajan75 IQ Says: Thanks, I’ll do my best.
March 3rd, 2009 at 8:56 amDamn right! We are loving this! It’s even better than the Sarah Palin show! Rock on Dittoheads!
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:00 amjb Says:
We don’t dare ignore radicals like these that have such a thirst for power. Although, now that they are somewhat marginalized, they are more amusing than threatening. I’d be happy to piss on any of their graves, but for now we watch with a curious mix of humor and revulsion and a twinge of fear.
Oh that reminds me, does anyone know where Kristol Sr is buried?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:01 amNow we can add Chairman Steele to Rushycontin’s new band:
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 amRushoxy Limpdick and the Dittoheads
John Kerry Says: Oh boy, you know how to use bold type. You still don’t have anything worthwhile to say, but you learned to say it in bold type. Mom would be proud.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 amJohn Kerry,
Since you say NOT to do something, that means we should do it 1000000 times more.
We can’t drive home the point of the GOP now being headed by an entertainer ENOUGH. And if he is NOT an entertainer, then the FCC should be notified because he gets away with all the shit on his show BECAUSE he is an “ENTERTAINER”.
Catch the IRONY JK? Oh but it is OK if you are a Republicant. Right?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:05 amDr. Hussein Matt Says:
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bullit4us Says:
liberalism always generates the opposite of what it was intended
Reich-wingers hoped and prayed herr dubyah’s economic policies would make America stronger, while we now see that kkkkonservatism always generates the opposite of what it was intended.
keep repeating it will sink in
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:06 ambullshit4us,
You are now mumbling, speak up man!!!
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:08 ambullit4us Says:
It’s breakfast time, the drive-thru is full, so why aren’t you at the deep fryer???
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:09 ambuilt4us says “keep repeating it will sink in”. Isn’t that what a cult does?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:10 amAlecto Says:
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bullshit4us,
You are now mumbling, speak up man!!!
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:11 amhi sunshine never had the pleasure of meeting you we’re going to be such good friends over the next 3 years and 10 months
With Rush gaining more presence in the republican party this will make Steele a lame duck and it will further divide the GOP.
GOP RIP
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:11 amDNFP Says:
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bullit4us Says:
It’s breakfast time, the drive-thru is full, so why aren’t you at the deep fryer???
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:13 amhey buddy hows it goin?
hellinabucket Says:
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built4us says “keep repeating it will sink in”. Isn’t that what a cult does?
no it’s how we break the cult
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:14 ambullit4us Says:
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Alecto Says:
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bullshit4us,
You are now mumbling, speak up man!!!
hi sunshine never had the pleasure of meeting you we’re going to be such good friends over the next 3 years and 10 months
Hi dildo,
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:14 amHey traitor, we are going to hang you and your compatriots.
Just saying.
“Have fun stormin’ the castle” though.
Hey, remember Mr. Steele is going to bring in the hip hop crowd. Bhahahahahaha…
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:14 amSteele is an Uncle Tom…nothing more.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:14 amAlecto Says:
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bullit4us Says:
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Alecto Says:
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bullshit4us,
You are now mumbling, speak up man!!!
hi sunshine never had the pleasure of meeting you we’re going to be such good friends over the next 3 years and 10 months
Hi dildo,
Hey traitor, we are going to hang you and your compatriots.
Just saying.
“Have fun stormin’ the castle” though.
thats what we been preparing for sweetie
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:15 amrat618 Says:
Steele is an Uncle Tom…nothing more.
Excuse me, but that is “Uncle Thomas III” to you.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:16 amRush will get more speaking time within the GOP. The problem for them though is that less people are listening.
Latest poll shows that there are more independents (29%) than there are republicans (28%). The poll also showed the democrats at 38%.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:17 amHey bullshit,
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 amYou got your guns all loaded and everythin’?
Youse got your suped up monster truck ready for Armegg… Armagg…Armigg Oh damn, jus da end of da world? Youse gots youselfs abunker to crawl into and hide? You got it all prepared, because pencil dick Mr. prince of blackwater he told you it was gonna come down to this, the white versus everyone. Damn, he was soo right, right… he makes you cry in your gruel.
hellinabucket Says:
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Rush will get more speaking time within the GOP. The problem for them though is that less people are listening.
Latest poll shows that there are more independents (29%) than there are republicans (28%). The poll also showed the democrats at 38%.
when will you libs learn not to listen to a radio show and pay attention to your leaders who btw are stealing your and your childrens future
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:20 amAlecto Says:
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Hey bullshit,
You got your guns all loaded and everythin’?
Youse got your suped up monster truck ready for Armegg… Armagg…Armigg Oh damn, jus da end of da world? Youse gots youselfs abunker to crawl into and hide? You got it all prepared, because pencil dick Mr. prince of blackwater he told you it was gonna come down to this, the white versus everyone. Damn, he was soo right, right… he makes you cry in your gruel.
ahhh aren’t you sweet
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:21 amyou know alecto i just know we are going to be good friends soon
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:22 amWe’ll be hearing the more radical (read desparate) ranting from the GOP because the moderates have either left or been silenced.
I believe Rush is a perfect spokesperson for them. With an outrageous salary, myopic view and his disregard for women his true message will been seen for all america to know what the repbulican party stands for.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:22 ambullit4us Says: Only repugs like you would be dumb enough to storm the castle. The rest of us will just surround you clowns and starve you out.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 amrush rush rush your obsessed with rush
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:24 ambullshit4us,
HAHAHAHA!
bullshit says:
“when will you libs learn not to listen to a radio show and pay attention to your leaders who btw are stealing your and your childrens future”
We need to invade Switzerland and the Cayman Islands to find all the anonymous bank accounts Bush and Cheney et al stashed the $$$$$10 Trillion dollars they stole. And you think you can play the blame game. Get with the program rube.
Oh please, you are killin’ us, figurately of course, becuase you are a pathetic looser of a human, who does not even deserve to draw breath. You would be honored to be considered for body parts.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:25 ambullit4us, you got it all wrong, we love Rush.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:26 amangels81 Says:
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bullit4us Says: Only repugs like you would be dumb enough to storm the castle. The rest of us will just surround you clowns and starve you out.
hi darling how are you today?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:26 amHow cute. Another right-wing Republican who suddenly got religion on fiscal responsibility. Let me guess. You began to worry about the future of our children on Jan. 21, 2009, right?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:26 ambuilt4us, I don’t remember you here screaming about the billions that Bush and the GOP dominated congress pissed away in Iraq. All with money we didn’t have and they didn’t bother to account for it in the budget.
If you are going to be outraged about money that’s being spent in our country on our citizens but not be upset about the wasteful handling of Iraq I believe you have your priorities out of whack.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:26 amAlecto Says:
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bullshit4us,
HAHAHAHA!
bullshit says:
“when will you libs learn not to listen to a radio show and pay attention to your leaders who btw are stealing your and your childrens future”
We need to invade Switzerland and the Cayman Islands to find all the anonymous bank accounts Bush and Cheney et al stashed the $$$$$10 Trillion dollars they stole. And you think you can play the blame game. Get with the program rube.
Oh please, you are killin’ us, figurately of course, becuase you are a pathetic looser of a human, who does not even deserve to draw breath. You would be honored to be considered for body parts.
wow i’m impressed you were listening to your professor mommy and daddy must be so proud…..bet they are republican aren’t they?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:27 amAbsolutely! We are fascinated with the new leader of the Republican Party!
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:27 ambuilt4us, the thread topic is about Rush. Now if it were about the illegal interogation methods the Bush administration used we wouldn’t be talking about Rush.
silly boy.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:28 amhellinabucket Says:
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built4us, I don’t remember you here screaming about the billions that Bush and the GOP dominated congress pissed away in Iraq. All with money we didn’t have and they didn’t bother to account for it in the budget.
If you are going to be outraged about money that’s being spent in our country on our citizens but not be upset about the wasteful handling of Iraq I believe you have your priorities out of whack.
yes but at least i know what my priorities are sunshine do you?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:29 amhellinabucket Says:
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built4us, the thread topic is about Rush. Now if it were about the illegal interogation methods the Bush administration used we wouldn’t be talking about Rush.
silly boy.
i don’t habg on rushs’ every word honey….i pay attention to the people who are actually making the descisions for me
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:31 ambullit4us, what are your priorities?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:32 amHey bullshit4us,
Go over the freeperville, and get some more of your thug, bully-assed pussy boys to come on over here. Let us take a sledgehammer to their head too.
Fcuking moron.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:32 amshoeless Says:
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rush rush rush your obsessed with rush
Absolutely! We are fascinated with the new leader of the Republican Party!
when he holds office then you should worry till then he means nothing
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:33 amangels81 Says:
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bullit4us, what are your priorities?
as long as i know them they should be no concern to you
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:34 amI am reminded of a Proverb from the Hebrew Bible, in light of the Republicans following Rush again.
Proverbs 26:11
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:34 amAs a dog returns to its vomit,
so a fool repeats his folly.
twacy,
Next time, use a clean pair of socks when going on “sock puppet” patrol.
The cum stains are showing…
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 amI expect better retorts from you built4us. Can you acknowledge this thread is about Rush and therefore we are discussing the defacto leader of the GOP? Don’t you want him to be your leader? Or is there still hope for Jindal, Palin, Cantor or even Hannity?
Hopefully you can step beyond a simple snide comment and man up behind what you believe. Show some reason that the GOP is for me instead of throwing childish stabs.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 ambullshit4us,
You cannot even begin to comprehend the depths of my loathing and desire to exterminate every last piece of Republiscum from humanity. The depths of my hatred of all that is Republiscum knows no bounds.
Yeah, I see us being good friends, like my dog is my “friend.”
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 amThe only office Rush will ever hold, is that little room he plops his fat ass in now.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 amAlecto Says:
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Hey bullshit4us,
Go over the freeperville, and get some more of your thug, bully-assed pussy boys to come on over here. Let us take a sledgehammer to their head too.
Fcuking moron.
c’mon now lets keep it clean professor left wing surely taught you better than that honey
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 amangels81 Says:
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The only office Rush will ever hold, is that little room he plops his fat ass in now.
so tell me why are you sooooooo worried about what he has to say?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 amHey bull, whats with all the honey stuff? Are you here cruising for a date?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:37 amso tell me why are you sooooooo worried about what he has to say?
Not worried d o u c h y, entertained.
Like watching a group of children trying to play “grown-ups”.
And you’re the “star” of the show!
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:39 amAlecto Says:
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bullshit4us,
You cannot even begin to comprehend the depths of my loathing and desire to exterminate every last piece of Republiscum from humanity. The depths of my hatred of all that is Republiscum knows no bounds.
Yeah, I see us being good friends, like my dog is my “friend.”
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:39 amsee we do have something in common i have a dog too!
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so tell me why are you sooooooo worried about what he has to say?
Not worried d o u c h y, entertained.
Like watching a group of children trying to play “grown-ups”.
And you’re the “star” of the show!
ok so why do you go on and on and on about him?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:41 ambull, I’m not worried, I love it. I think people like Rush, Bachman, Steele, Cantor, Coulter, Jindal, Palin and Joe the plumber is great news for my side. Couldn’t get much better then that.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:41 amI suspect you will be squelching me soon so i will repeat pay attention to your elected officials and not some fat radio guy
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 amok so why do you go on and on and on about him?
Still being paid per post by a GOP operative I see.
I answered your vexing conundrum.
I can’t cure ‘STUPID’.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:44 amangels81 Says:
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bull, I’m not worried, I love it. I think people like Rush, Bachman, Steele, Cantor, Coulter, Jindal, Palin and Joe the plumber is great news for my side. Couldn’t get much better then that.
i appreciate your honesty and your tact
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:45 amActually bulld o u c h e,
We’re cheering for Limpdick’s success.
Why aren’t you?
Some blind loyalty, the GOP will not abide by your fake patriotism.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:45 ambull, unlike you repugs we can walk and chew gum at the same time, so its easy to mock repugs and Rush at the same time we take care of other business.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:46 amTrajan75 IQ Says:
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Hey Bull$hit:
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:47 amWhy are Eric Oldom and J$ afraid of Think Progressive and why do they have to send trolls here?
Don’t they have enough intestinal fortitude to register as themselves and try their hand at civil discourse. Is it because they can only spew talking points and that reality is not their best friend?
They would get the a$$es handed to them by Progressive Bloggers
wow you sling that 60’s bs really well
DNFP Says:
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ok so why do you go on and on and on about him?
Still being paid per post by a GOP operative I see.
I answered your vexing conundrum.
I can’t cure ‘STUPID’.
stupid is as stupid does
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:47 amHey Bull$hit:
Why are Eric Oldom and J$ afraid of Think Progressive and why do they have to send trolls here?
Rinse, wash, repeat.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:48 amOn the GOP side I see elected officials bending over backward for a radio talk show host. I see a party that has lost big time the last two election cycles.
I’m watching the death of the GOP.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 amwake up people the people you elected are robbing you blind and i mean you are blind to that fact
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 amstupid is as stupid does
The majority of us learned this phrase from a silly movie.
People like you had to learn by experience.
Good work!
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 amNeither J$ nor Eric Odom have the balls coming here and posting in their own names.
Of course not, they haven’t even seen their balls since they loaned them to Limpdick (looking at those cheeks, he’s got LOTS of other people’s balls in their too).
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:51 amTrajan75 IQ Says:
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wow you sling that 60’s bs really well
Nice dodge there Bullit4us. Neither J$ nor Eric Odom have the balls coming here and posting in their own names.
whats that have to do with what were talking about? get over rush and pay attention to who makes the descsions for you
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:53 amsorry inserted
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:55 amcan any one tell me who onserted the earmark 1.4 million for grape research?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:55 amcmon surely a well informed group like you knows this answer
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:57 amTrajan75 IQ Says:
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whats that have to do with what were talking about? get over rush and pay attention to who makes the descsions for you
Rush and FATS Limbaugh and Steele are the topic of this thread, so stay on topic little fella. Your tenuous grip on reality is showing.
threads are for clothes my friend answer my question please
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:58 amLOL!! The Republican Circus and their side show Fatman. If you made this stuff up no one would believe it. Think of Rush like this if, he played a few tunes on his show he’d be a disc jockey.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 amcmon your sitting in front of the fastest information tool there is look it up……or maybe you just don’t care your too involved with RUSH
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 amwarren57 Says:
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LOL!! The Republican Circus and their side show Fatman. If you made this stuff up no one would believe it. Think of Rush like this if, he played a few tunes on his show he’d be a disc jockey.
Again he hold no elected office
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:03 amNUGENT/PALIN 2012
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:05 amTrajan75 IQ Says:
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bullit4us
Listen troll, you are not in a position to give orders after Troll Centrals disaster on the CPAC thread.
again threads are for clothes…..tell me who inserted the earmark for 1.4 million dolars btw YOUR tax dollars for grape research? gonna be some mighty fine wine there
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:08 amcall me all the adolescent names you want doesn’t make the point go away
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 amliberalism generates the complete opposite of what it was intended people….wake up
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 amwho spoon fed you all this bs you spew?
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 amwho spoon fed you all this bs you spew?
Do you always have conversations with yourself?
We’re not really interested, dipshit.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:13 amDNFP Says:
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who spoon fed you all this bs you spew?
Do you always have conversations with yourself?
We’re not really interested, dipshit
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:17 amthats right because you don’t see any further than the end of your little nose dear…go on and run i’ll wait for some more intelligent lib to discuss how our elected officials are wasting my and your money
LIMBAUGH/WURZELBACHER 2012
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:19 amTrajan75 IQ Says:
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DNFP Says:
Take it easy on the bottom feeder bullit4us, it is in way over its head on Think Progress.
i don’t hear you spouting off the answer top feeder you don’t have any idea who is wasting your money take a wild guess cmon
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:19 amYOU CAN”T GET BY A DRUGGED OUT RADIO HACK HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE COUNTRY?
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:20 amdumdum4us Says:
liberalism generates the complete opposite of what it was intended people….wake up
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Of course, one can easily infer from this comment that the poster is saying conservatives, on the other hand, generate exactly what they intend…
Crushing deficits? 2 endless wars? A cratered economy? Torture? Domestic spying? Pedophilic Congresscritters? All on purpose? Whoa…
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:23 amgo on and run i’ll wait for some more intelligent lib to discuss how our elected officials are wasting my and your money
Shut the hell up lying, obfuscating, thread-jacking fcukwit.
Take it to the ThinkFast thread (open topics) or find yourself, once again, banished, where you belong.
You’re not affecting anything in politics, other than boosting the strength of the Democratic party by keeping the display of ignorant Wingnuts in focus.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:24 ami’ll just put the jeopardy theme on and wait for the answer
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:24 amHOW ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THE COUNTRY?
Sit back, shut up, and watch.
It’s great to see people who truly care about the US in control after 8 years of spoiled-brat, insular, ignorant – arrogance of the Shrub.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 amDNFP Says:
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go on and run i’ll wait for some more intelligent lib to discuss how our elected officials are wasting my and your money
Shut the hell up lying, obfuscating, thread-jacking fcukwit.
Take it to the ThinkFast thread (open topics) or find yourself, once again, banished, where you belong.
You’re not affecting anything in politics, other than boosting the strength of the Democratic party by keeping the display of ignorant Wingnuts in focus
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 amthats my point anyone that disagrees with you click you turn them off we are not going to go away because you stamp your foot and take a hissy fit sweetie
we are not going to go away
So wrong, as usual.
The willful destruction of the GOP is like a dream come true.
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:27 amDNFP….the democrats will self destruct and the republicans won’t have to do a thing….ruining us economically
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:29 ambullit4us Says:
THOU DOTH PROJECT TOO MUCH.
Check the scoreboard, oh d o u c h y -one.
YOU’RE LOSING. HURRY, DOUBLE-DOWN NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 amThe Reichwing has always wanted to destroy government.
If they have to take down the entire nation trying, they’re fine with that.
GOT TREASON?
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:31 amDr. Hussein Matt Says:
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ok
Reich-wingers hoped and prayed herr dubyah’s economic policies would make America stronger, while we now see that kkkkonservatism always generates the opposite of what it was intended…..failure.
dr you said that an hour ago and it still doesn’t anwer my question who is wasting my and your money
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:32 amReich-wingers hoped and prayed
I think we’ve found the problem…
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:33 ami told you adolescent attacks won’t do i want to hear real arguments
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:34 amDNFP Says:
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Reich-wingers hoped and prayed
I think we’ve found the problem
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:36 amc’mon sweetie you’ve had ample time to look up the answer who inserted the earmark of 1.4 million dollars of your money for grape research?
My point taken you don’t care you only want to critisize a drugged out radio hack…get a life and wake up
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:37 amone last time liberalism generates the opposite of what it was intended people…..good day
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:40 ambullit here reminds me of when JK was saying the dems will fail and McCain will be president.
Bullit, you can sh!t in one hand and wish in the other. See which one fills up first.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 amhellinabucket Says:
bullit here reminds me of when JK was saying the dems will fail and McCain will be president.
Bullit, you can sh!t in one hand and wish in the other. See which one fills up first.
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good one!
:)
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:54 amYesterday, the poster poser was “bullit4you”, now it is “bullit4us”. Got banned, reincarnated, needs to be starved to death again.
This one has long ago met my three-strikes-and-you’re-out guideline. It should be talked about, not to.
Just my 2 cents.
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:14 amEvery time another Republican realizes to his horror that he has said something to offend Limbaugh (and therefore his followers) and starts the damage control, I am reminded of John Cleese in “A Fish Called Wanda” hanging upside down from a window apologizing profusely.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:08 pmIn the Republican party, saying something, ANYthing negative about Limbaugh is akin to saying you are an atheist.
Checking in. I’m sure glad you guys don’t have to deal with Blackhawk Mike today. What a windbag. A total disaster. This bullit fellow isn’t even in the same league though I see your having fun with him all the same.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:11 pmRich H Says:
This bullit fellow isn’t even in the same league though I see your having fun with him all the same.
Are we sure it’s a ‘him’?
to Alecto: “hi sunshine never had the pleasure of meeting you”, “sweetie”
to angels81: “hi darling”
to hellinabucket: “honey”
etc. – you get my drift…
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm5th Estate Says:
hanshiro.. smart sourcing in your counterpoints and very salient.
Might you stop by the Zoo some time because there;s a whole topic we’ve been skirting around that derives from Blackhawk Mikes comments and the zoo has the ‘room’ for more nuanced topics. The subject I have in mind is roughly ‘What Returning Vets Think’.
March 3rd, 2009 at 2:57 am
I’d love to set up a thread like that, 5th. It would be a great discussion.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:03 pmknow what i like best
about this thread?
the fun and frivolity!
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hi zoo :)
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March 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pmExcellent job, bullet. You got ‘em running scared!
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:05 am
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March 3rd, 2009 at 5:21 pmI think it is spelled “bullit”. Stil you make me laugh just the same.
leadership? LEADERSHIP?
March 3rd, 2009 at 6:11 pmLater, Mr. Steele would spend the evening serving coffee and donuts at a Republican fundraiser.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:58 pmSamBrown Says:
Every time another Republican realizes to his horror that he has said something to offend Limbaugh (and therefore his followers) and starts the damage control, I am reminded of John Cleese in “A Fish Called Wanda” hanging upside down from a window apologizing profusely.
In the Republican party, saying something, ANYthing negative about Limbaugh is akin to saying you are an atheist.
Its the same as the assh0le lawyer friend of Cheney, who APOLOGIZED for being shot in the face. Their groveling knows no bounds, and will easily outweight their self-protection drive. Hey fukuwit bullshit4US, how ya doing dickwad????
March 4th, 2009 at 8:52 amAlecto Says:
SamBrown Says:
Every time another Republican realizes to his horror that he has said something to offend Limbaugh (and therefore his followers) and starts the damage control, I am reminded of John Cleese in “A Fish Called Wanda” hanging upside down from a window apologizing profusely.
In the Republican party, saying something, ANYthing negative about Limbaugh is akin to saying you are an atheist.
Its the same as the assh0le lawyer friend of Cheney, who APOLOGIZED for being shot in the face. Their groveling knows no bounds, and will easily outweight their self-protection drive. Hey fukuwit bullshit4US, how ya doing dickwad????
g’morning sunshine i’m just fine today thank you for asking.
March 4th, 2009 at 9:17 amas for you, you need to move out of mommy and daddys house lying in your bed masturbating to that carmen electra poster on your bedroom wall and start using the brain that god gave you you left wing brat…..we are going to be such good friends the next 3 years and 10 months
isn’t it ironic i know who you really are
March 4th, 2009 at 9:19 amand good morning all my little left wing weenie friends
March 4th, 2009 at 9:19 amPatrioticLiberalChristian Says:
Yesterday, the poster poser was “bullit4you”, now it is “bullit4us”. Got banned, reincarnated, needs to be starved to death again.
This one has long ago met my three-strikes-and-you’re-out guideline. It should be talked about, not to.
Just my 2 cents.
i would expect nothing less from a communist liberal christian lol your a oxymoron
March 4th, 2009 at 9:23 amYour all worthless and weak now drop and give me twenty
March 4th, 2009 at 9:24 amhey girls what’d rush say yesterday? that windbag right wing poopoo of a human being your all so pathetic
March 4th, 2009 at 9:30 amthink progress ha what a joke you close minded brats
March 4th, 2009 at 9:47 amMike Steele is a good example of why African Americans have no place in the leadership of the republican’t party. Hey Mike, a bit of advice, you’re only the head of the RNC because it was a knee jerk reaction on their part to Obama being elected president. Now shut up and play the role of “Token Black Man”.
March 4th, 2009 at 12:02 pmBitter Sarcasm Alert: Flap Over Rush Limbaugh Proves That the Media Continues to Cover Extremely Compelling News Items!
March 4th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Bitter Sarcasm Alert: Flap Over Rush Limbaugh Proves That the Media Continues to Cover Extremely Compelling News Items!
For some reason, in my original post, the link above is invisible (but in the text).
March 4th, 2009 at 2:15 pmhttp://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2009/03/bitter-sarcasm-alert-flap-over-rush.html
March 4th, 2009 at 2:16 pmmaxamillion Says:
Mike Steele is a good example of why African Americans have no place in the leadership of the republican’t party. Hey Mike, a bit of advice, you’re only the head of the RNC because it was a knee jerk reaction on their part to Obama being elected president. Now shut up and play the role of “Token Black Man”.
You’re a friendly fella. A racist also it seems.
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