ThinkFast: March 3, 2009
ThinkFast: March 3, 2009
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) said he was “glad” that RNC Chairman Michael Steele apologized to Rush Limbaugh. Jindal, who has been hailed by Limbaugh as “the next Ronald Reagan,” said, “I think Rush is a leader for many conservatives and says things that people are concerned about.”
The Wall Street Journal reports that the Obama administration is fleshing out its plan to rescue failing banks. The administration “is considering creating multiple investment funds to purchase the bad loans and other distressed assets that lie at the heart of the financial crisis, according to people familiar with the matter.”
Conservatives for Patients’ Rights, a new group led by the former owner of the Hospital Corporation of America, is launching a multimillion-dollar campaign today in opposition to President Obama’s health care reform agenda. The group “is enlisting a group of veteran Republican consultants to fashion a multi-media battle, warning against the move toward more government involvement.”
Obama’s nominee for U.S. Trade Representative, Ron Kirk, “has agreed to pay $10,000 in back taxes for speaking fees that he did not report as income and for deducting the cost of season tickets to the Dallas Mavericks basketball games.”
Yesterday, the Justice Department disclosed nine secret legal opinions issued by Bush administration lawyers after the Sept. 11 attacks, which “included assertions that the president could use the nation’s military within the United States to combat terrorism suspects and to conduct raids without obtaining search warrants.” The memos are “the clearest illustration to date of the broad definition of presidential power approved by government lawyers in the months after the Sept. 11 attacks.”
President Obama sent a secret letter to Russia’s president Dmitri Medvedev last month “suggesting that he would back off deploying a new missile defense system in Eastern Europe if Moscow would help stop Iran from developing” nuclear warheads and long range missiles. “It’s almost saying to them, put up or shut up,” said a senior administration official.
According to a “senior State Department Official,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said yesterday in a meeting with the foreign minister of the UAE that “she is doubtful that Iran will respond to any kind of engagement and opening the hand out and reaching out to them.” Her remarks offer “some evidence of a debate within the administration over the overture to Iran — a major theme of President Obama’s presidential campaign.”
Just days before a California Supreme Court hearing on Proposition 8, the state’s Legislature approved a resolution yesterday “declaring that voters alone did not have the right to adopt the gay-marriage ban.” The nonbinding resolution claims that “[s]weeping revisions can only be adopted…if they originate in the Legislature, gain two-thirds approval in that body and then win approval by voters.”
“One in every 31 adults, or 7.3 million Americans, is in prison, on parole or probation,” a new Pew Center on the States study reports. State spending on prisons quadrupled over the last 20 years, despite the fact that crime dropped 25 percent during that time. “Criminal correction spending is outpacing budget growth in education, transportation and public assistance.” “Only Medicaid spending grew faster than state corrections spending.”
And finally: Looking for ways to remember George W. Bush? Visit georgewbushstore.com. The D.C. Examiner reports some of the “classic” and “commemorative” merchandise available on the site. “[T]here’s always the ‘Thank You President Bush’ bumper sticker ($1.50 each, but there are volume discounts for large orders!) or the ever-popular merchandise with the simple ‘W’ logo.”
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Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) said he was “glad” that RNC Chairman Michael Steele apologized to Rush Limbaugh. Jindal, who has been hailed by Limbaugh as “the next Ronald Reagan,” said, “I think Rush is a leader for many conservatives and says things that people are concerned about.”
Yeah, Bobby, you should be glad – you don’t want Rush (the leader of your party) mad at you.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:01 amLouisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) said he was “glad” that RNC Chairman Michael Steele apologized to Rush Limbaugh. Jindal, who has been hailed by Limbaugh as “the next Ronald Reagan,” said, “I think Rush is a leader for many conservatives and says things that people are concerned about.”
OMFG! That is some funny chit!!!
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 amSad and pathetic, but funny as hell.
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) said he was “glad” that RNC Chairman Michael Steele apologized to Rush Limbaugh. Jindal, who has been hailed by Limbaugh as “the next Ronald Reagan,” said, “I think Rush is a leader for many conservatives and says things that people are concerned about.”
Since playing to their base worked so well for the Republicans in the last election, let’s just up that ante and keep doing the same thing.
Hmmm… isn’t there an axiom about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:04 am“One in every 31 adults, or 7.3 million Americans, is in prison, on parole or probation,” a new Pew Center on the States study reports. State spending on prisons quadrupled over the last 20 years, despite the fact that crime has dropped 25 percent during that time. “Criminal correction spending is outpacing budget growth in education, transportation and public assistance,” with “[o]nly Medicaid spending grew faster than state corrections spending.”
Gotta keep prosecutin’ those maryjuana doper-heads. Everyone knows they’re all terrists, sex fiends and hate America…
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:05 amThe memos are “the clearest illustration to date of the broad definition of presidential power approved by government lawyers in the months after the Sept. 11 attacks.”
That’s one way of putting it. Scott Horton refers to it this way: “John Yoo’s Constitution is unlike any other I have ever seen. It seems to consist of one clause: appointing the President as commander-in-chief. The rest of the Constitution was apparently printed in disappearing ink.”
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:05 am“I think Rush is a leader for many conservatives and says things that people are concerned about.”
No kidding. Everytime Rush speaks I am concerned there’s a global oxycontin shortage.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:09 amHCA doesn’t have to go far to influence President Obama’s new health care czar. The intermediary is Denny Shelton, ex-President of Triad Hospitals. (HCA spun off Triad). Denny can call Legacy/Triad board member Nancy-Ann DeParle. Shelton pushed the U.S. Chamber of Commerce reform shortly after he pocketed over $40 million from the sale of his company.
Nancy-Ann Deparle is a private equity underwriter (PEU) like HCA’s current owner, KKR. She sat on the board of eight for=profit health care companies. In 2007, Nancy-Ann made over $450,000 in board compensation. That’s on top of her pay at CCMP Capital Advisers, which has its roots as JP Morgan private equity. He board directorships include:
Cerner
Boston Scientific-Guidant
Triad Hospitals
Legacy Health Systems
Medco-Accredo
Scientific Laboratories
Nancy-Ann holds or made millions in for-profit healthcare stocks. This is a Bush like appointment. Sad.
For more details:
http://stateofthedivision.blogspot.com/2009/03/white-house-health-care-reformer-is-peu.html
or
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0001144511&owner=include&count=40
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:16 amI noticed on Sunday’s talking head political shows that Bobby Jingo wasn’t mentioned once.
I find that very odd, given that even Fox’s ‘brilliant political team’ thought he had completely bombed in his response to President Obama’s joint congressional speech.
Liberal media, my ass. Conservative media ownership didn’t want this topic covered. Period. They’re hoping the egg on their face will dry soon, & no one will remember ‘Bobby’s Mr. Rogers’ speech’.
Oh, & Mr. Steele…apparently your balls aren’t…
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:16 amI think HCA was excited about TARP. Their professional liability captive company has over $600 million in unsellable auction rate securities. They’re happy to take corporate welfare, but help the citizens? Nahhh!
Note, the same for-profit management philosophy leads health care reform from the White House. Nancy-Ann DeParle sat on many Board executive compensation committees. She employed the same poisonous “pay for performance” plans that imploded Wall Street.
It’s also President Obama’s cure for health care and education. Teachers and doctors are as smart as CEO’s. Expect widespread cheating and suboptimization.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:23 amThank you, ex-President Bush, for producing your new line of merchandise, especially the bumper stickers.
To be able to identify at a glance drivers who are completely disengaged from reality; and have their heads up their asses, is a major contribution to highway safety.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:24 amJindal, who has been hailed by Limbaugh as “the next Ronald Reagan,” said, “I think Rush is a leader for many conservatives and says things that people are concerned about.”
I think that Jindal is really stupid to hitch his fortunes to Limbaugh’s star. Limbaugh is being played by the Obama Administration very effectively and being exposed for the hate monger that he is.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:28 am>Hospital Corporation of America,
Scumbags looking to profit off of the illness of others, right up there with arms dealers and big pharma in terms of ethics and decency…the more diseases we can cure, not just treat, the less money these dirtbags make…
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:28 amThe administration “is considering creating multiple investment funds to purchase the bad loans and other distressed assets that lie at the heart of the financial crisis, according to people familiar with the matter.”
It will really piss me off to see our tax dollars going to buy these toxic assets. We need to nationalize these banks and get their good assets along with their toxic assets. I think that President Obama is a fool if he thinks that private investors are going to come back into the banking system as long as they know that all they have to do is to sit on the sidelines while our tax dollars rescue the banks.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 amThe D.C. Examiner reports some of the “classic” and “commemorative” merchandise available on the site. “[T]here’s always the ‘Thank You President Bush’ bumper sticker ($1.50 each, but there are volume discounts for large orders!)
Those bumper stickers would actually go like hotcakes if they put the Obama “O” graphic over that ‘bush flag’…
…then it would make more sense.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 amIf anyone’s interested in what for-profit hospital CEO Denny Shelton might have shared with Nancy-Ann DeParle, go to:
http://peureport.blogspot.com/search?q=denny
Prviate equity underwriters (PEU’s) are in charge of health care reform and Pentagon purchasing. Change Now Means, No Change from W.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:31 amHCA…wasn’t Bill Frist or his family a part of this corporation?
…’nuff said.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:31 amThe group “is enlisting a group of veteran Republican consultants to fashion a multi-media battle, warning against the move toward more government involvement.”
Yeah, we’ll get more “Harry & Louise” advertisements warning us that if we go for universal health care we won’t have access to any doctor we want, the government will make bad decisions about our health care and our premiums will skyrocket.
But…wait… isn’t that what happened to us thanks to the private health care industry? Hopefully the Democrats will come up with an effective counter campaign to punch holes in their lies.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:33 amObama’s nominee for U.S. Trade Representative, Ron Kirk, “has agreed to pay $10,000 in back taxes for speaking fees that he did not report as income and for deducting the cost of season tickets to the Dallas Mavericks basketball games.”
And Sarah Palin has agreed to pay $17,000 in back taxes on the payments she took to work from her home in Wasilla and over $10,000 in taxes to pay for her children accompanying her on her trips for the state of Alaska.
And John McCain finally paid up on the property taxes he owed for years on one of his homes.
And then there’s “Joe the Plumber” who still hasn’t paid the taxes he owes.
So….. If every Republican’t in Congress and in the hierarchy of the Republican’t party was audited, I’m betting that we would see a lot worse than this. At least the Obama Administration is vetting the finances of his appointments, something that Bush never did.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:38 amHer remarks offer “some evidence of a debate within the administration over the overture to Iran — a major theme of President Obama’s presidential campaign.”
Well, this is worrisome. She has declared defeat before even trying? Not good.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:38 amEx-Columbia HCA CEO Richard Scott employed President Obama’s management philosophy, set aggressive targets and hold people accountable. That drove unethical behavior, which caused Scott to flee and the firm to pay a $631 million fine.
Those free market health care solutions? HCA sold out to KKR, adding over $1.5 billion in interest costs. Triad’s sale to CHS added $440 million in interest expense. That’s a $2 billion increase in costs with no new facility, no additional doctor, no high tech imaging machine.
Paint the whole picture. Our local for-profit hospital has 20% of the uninsured, our nonprofit community hospital gets 80%. Their bed sizes would make it more like 40-60. For-profits do less of their share in their aim to make money.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:39 amConservatives for Patients Rights, a new group led by the former owner of the Hospital Corporation of America, is launching a multimillion-dollar campaign today in opposition to President Obama’s health care reform agenda.
This is to be expected. There will be lots of resistance to any improvement in how we cover and deliver healthcare in this country.
Listen carefully for those naysayers who claim that Obama will “destroy the best healthcare system in the world”. They are clueless and no nothing about the issue. The U.S. doesn’t have a healthcare system – we have a series of “stovepipe” industries (such as physicians, hospitals, insurers, drug companies, etc.) that are poorly aligned and compete for the healthcare dollar in ways that are detrimental to effective and efficient patient care.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 amMore proof that the leadership of the Republican Party has become “dittoheads.”
I think it could be a fascinating sociological study to investigate how a major political party chose to follow a known drug addict.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:42 amraynman Says:
Hmmm… isn’t there an axiom about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
Yep, along with “for gods sake, when you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!”
I just love this whole thing. Rush and the Republicant’s have been so played by the Obama Administration. They walked right into it and they just keep on giving.
Next up is Eric Cantor apologizing to Limpballs.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:42 amFor more on Columbia-HCA Richard Scott’s Obama like management practices and their predictable outcome:
http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices/10349923-1.html
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 am“the clearest illustration to date of the broad definition of presidential power approved by government lawyers in the months after the Sept. 11 attacks.”
Memo to our Justice Department:
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:46 amThis would also be a clear illustration of how ‘the broad definition of presidential power approved by government lawyers’ didn’t occur because of 9-11.
It was part of the process.
I think it would be interesting to know exactly when these ‘lawyers’ began working on their definition of presidential power and who was involved in getting them started and shaping their ideas, don’t you ?
Jindal, who has been hailed by Limbaugh as “the next Ronald Reagan,” said, “I think Rush is a leader for many conservatives and says things that people are concerned about.”
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We interrupt this Jindal-Limbaugh suckup fest to ponder the concept of “leadership”. What is it, exactly? Who’s a leader? What makes an effective leader?
We often use the term as a compliment, assuming that leadership skill is a desirable trait. President Obama is considered a leader by just about anybody’s definition of the term — even his detractors (with the exception of that handful of deluded souls who are truly convinced he’s “inexperienced” and doesn’t know what he’s doing).
We can name traits of leaders — leaders write their own speeches (even if a speechwriter polishes the language), leaders have their own ideas, leaders blaze their own trails, etc.
I tend to boil it down to the simplest level. If you have followers, you’re a leader. If you don’t, you’re not.
Abraham Lincoln was a leader. So was Adolph Hitler. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a leader. So were Charles Manson and Jim Jones. And yes — by this definition, Rush Limbaugh is a leader.
We have been seeing a new trend, however — puppet leaders. These are the people who have all the leadership skills of a mechanical rabbit at a dog race. They have followers, to be sure. But somebody or something else is guiding the path they’re on. Dubya was such a “leader”. If you look at the way he operated, it was as if he was leading a convoy at full speed into a brick wall without even blinking. It’s hard to believe a real leader with a firm grasp of all his faculties would do that.
If, as Limbaugh claims, Jindal is “the next Ronald Reagan”, I suspect he will be a mechanical leader, with Limbaugh operating the remote.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:47 amI, too, am concerned in government-provided health care. When Concervatives regain power, and eventually they will, we will all be doomed to inadequate healthcare and a failing system, with no other recourse than to leave the country to get adequate treatment.
Yes, Conservatives have convinced me that a Government-run health care system will be a disaster, and as soon as they regain control of the government, they will make it so.
So, I guess the question remains, can we create a government-run Universal Health Care System which will be immune to future “Bushes”?
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:47 amThe group “is enlisting a group of veteran Republican consultants to fashion a multi-media battle, warning against the move toward more government involvement.”
I’ve posted this before:
Why, when there’s a system that virtually trounces ours in every respect, do we not copy and implement that system rather than spend millions catapulting the propaganda?
$$$, and that’s all the Insurance/Pharma juggernaut is concerned about; at the expense of lives. Put a stop to these monsters.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:50 amstateofthedivision Says:
Nancy-Ann holds or made millions in for-profit healthcare stocks. This is a Bush like appointment. Sad.
It really is no wonder the Democrats have had such a hard time retaining any power in our government. We so easily eat our own. We are quick to judge and criticize without even knowing what a person will do. We assume that just because a person appointed by President Obama has had some experience in a particular field, that means that President Obama is going to bend to the will of that person, or even that this particular person would have ideas contrary to Obama’s.
You are aptly named stateofthedivision. You are a divisive person.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:50 amBilbo, we’ve been through this before. I don’t assume anything about you. I know HCA and Triad well, with over 25 years in health care.
My aim is for the nonprofit, community hospital to get a fair shake in upcoming reform. The appointment of Nancy-Ann is a big step back in that regard.
As usual, you are free to ignore my posts.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:55 amstateofthedivision Says:
It’s also President Obama’s cure for health care and education. Teachers and doctors are as smart as CEO’s. Expect widespread cheating and suboptimization.
Who needs JK, Keoti, et al when we have our very own divisive poster stateofthedivision.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:56 amThe GOP’s future “successes” will be limited to phrases which fit on bumperstickers.
NOTHING MORE.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:57 ammisshusseinmolly Says:
If, as Limbaugh claims, Jindal is “the next Ronald Reagan”, I suspect he will be a mechanical leader, with Limbaugh operating the remote.
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Actually, I’d be seeing Jindal as more of a Howdy Doody kind of leader, or perhaps even a Mortimer Snerd… which would make Rush the puppet master pulling the strings. Now, if jindal turned out to be a socket puppet kind of leader, one would have to wonder, “Where does Rush put his hand when he makes Bobby speak”?
Rush prolly would make a faaaaabulous ventriloquist, seeing how he makes his voice apparently come from his own rear end all the time. He could make it look like Li’l Bobby was chattin’ away like crazy, and you’d never see Rush’s lips move once…
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:57 amBilbo, you could educate yourself or complain:
http://deming.org/
As usual, you’d rather complain.
March 3rd, 2009 at 9:58 am29.Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says: We assume that just because a person appointed by President Obama has had some experience in a particular field, that means that President Obama is going to bend to the will of that person, or even that this particular person would have ideas contrary to Obama’s.
You are aptly named stateofthedivision. You are a divisive person.
What is worse is extending contortionist logic to what has all the earmarks of a crony appointment, nor would we spare the wrath were this a republican administration.
stateofthedivision is posting sources to allow people to check his information while you, bilbo, are indulging in the worst type of partisan rationalizing that would otherwise be heaped with scorn.
“We are quick to judge and criticize without even knowing what a person will do. We assume that just because a person appointed by President Obama has had some experience in a particular field….”
I’m getting dizzy just reading that spin….
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:00 amstateofthedivision Says:
Ex-Columbia HCA CEO Richard Scott..yada yada yada
Jesus stateofthedivision, give it a rest. We all got your point in your first post. Repeating the same information four times doesn’t make it any more valid. When did you slip into the world of trolldom?
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:01 amJindal is glad that Steele bent over for Rush — I guess we know which side Jindal’s bread is buttered. Limbaugh is the republican voice, the man to be reckoned with — and that clearly demonstrates the pathetic state of the republican party. Jindal is merely the latest ideologue blinded by partisanship and personal ambition.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:02 amMany thanks, hanshiro.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:03 amhanshiro Says:
I’m getting dizzy just reading that spin….
I’m getting dizzy with the circular firing squad that has formed on this site. I have no problem with criticizing decisions that President Obama makes that I think are wrong and I have done so. But this constant harping on his appointments is getting to the point where I am wondering if progressive bloggers have a death wish for the Democratic party. I don’t want us to become like the lemming Republicant’s, but I also don’t want to see us eat our own about things that HAVE NOT HAPPENED YET!
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:04 amWhat are the statistics – how many are in prison for offenses like possession of marijuana?
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:06 amstateofthedivision Says:
Bilbo, you could educate yourself or complain:
http://deming.org/
As usual, you’d rather complain.
No, I would rather judge President Obama on what he does, not what I think he will do based on an appointment. You, on the other hand, would rather condemn our President based on something you predict will happen in the future because of an appointment he made. Maybe you should take your crystal ball back to Walmart, it’s making you into a troll.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:06 amnotice the 20 stars on the flag on that bumper sticker?
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:07 amwhat could that represent?
the states that back him? the 20% of supporters?
watchdog Says:
Democraps better let go of this global warming crap or the perfect storm might be brewing for a massive GOP victory. Wrong on the economy and the man made global warming propaganda, not looking good for you guys.
Try educating yourself before you post. Another and more accurate name for “Global Warming is “Global Climate Change” and the affects are extreme weather conditions which include huge snow storms when there should be warmer weather.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:08 amnot looking good for you guys.
Says the dipshit who continues to ignore the 900lb, oxycontin choked fearless “leader” of the obstructionist party?
Son, you got stupid all over your face.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 amDeParle, with years of experience in insurance and for-profit health care, might be the right person to team with Sibelius in pushing forth health care reform – she knows the arguments, the people, and the policies better than most.
This is going to be a helluva battle in Congress, so having someone from the “other side” on your team might be strategic, albeit risky.
IF she applies what she knows to advancing the Obama policies it might not be so bad as it would appear at first glance.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:11 amIt remains to be seen, however — let’s see how she performs.
Good morning, campers
A little late to the party, but duty calls at work.
Well, it certainly didn’t take long for the titular head of the Rethuglic party to get on his knees and kiss the de facto leader of the GOP, Flush Limpdick’s anal ring, did it?
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:11 amstateofthedivision Says:
Bilbo, we’ve been through this before. I don’t assume anything about you. I know HCA and Triad well, with over 25 years in health care.
My aim is for the nonprofit, community hospital to get a fair shake in upcoming reform. The appointment of Nancy-Ann is a big step back in that regard.
As usual, you are free to ignore my posts.
And you know that won’t happen under President Obama how? Oh yeah, I forgot about your Walmart crystal ball that tells you what is going to happen.
As usual, you are free to ignore my posts. I am not going to ignore yours because you are doing our President and our party a lot of harm.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 am39.Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says: I’m getting dizzy with the circular firing squad that has formed on this site. I have no problem with criticizing decisions that President Obama makes that I think are wrong and I have done so. But this constant harping on his appointments is getting to the point where I am wondering if progressive bloggers have a death wish for the Democratic party.
No, a more astute assessment would indicate an extreme aversion to the “just trust me” school that both bush, and increasingly Obama are indulging in. Obama has lied before and betrayed his promises before.
For no politician will I sit back and assume he’s honest or in my best interest. If it smells like bullsh¡t and looks like bullsh¡t….
btw, bilbo, you have yet to dispute any of SoTD’s information, rather you attack your presumption of his motives. Either debate the man’s issues or STFU.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:12 amwatchdog pensively whines
Democraps better let go of this global warming crap or the perfect storm might be brewing for a massive GOP victory. Wrong on the economy and the man made global warming propaganda, not looking good for you guys.
Actually, the consensus is pretty clear that man’s actions effect the planet and pointing out snow storms in places that don’t usually experience such phenomena strengthen the case of climate change we will all eagerly await your newsflashes when droughts and heat waves hit this summer.
The economy has been destroyed by George W. Bush.
You have no new ideas, nothing to bring to the table that hasn’t been proven a dramatic failure, and you’re running on the fumes of your global warming diatribe when most people understand that human action has effected and will continue to effect the environment.
Hahaha, you desperate lil Rightwinger who falsely claims political independence yet only drums up right0wing ideas. Phoney and lame watchdog…phoney baloney…
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:14 amwatchdog is grasping at straws people.
Move along, there’s nothing more to see here.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:15 amwatchdog Says:
Democraps better let go of this global warming crap or the perfect storm might be brewing for a massive GOP victory. Wrong on the economy and the man made global warming propaganda, not looking good for you guys.
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One grows weary of a child’s endless prating. Wrong on this… wrong on that… blaah blah blah… blah blah blah… it would appear you are still feeling sorry for yourself after the drubbing the GOOP took in November, or perhaps it was the endless, non-stop eight year, self-induced SLIDE to the bottom of the ratings the Botch Admin became that did it to you.
And yet here you are… calling for a return… to the disastrous policies of BotchCo? BTW, at least one of those “articles” you linked to quotes the BS you used yesterday… the fraud who claimed he was Hansen’s supervisor when he wasn’t. The information wasn’t valid on the first try. It didn’t get any better on the 2nd.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:16 amLIMBAUGH/WURZELBACHER 2012
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:16 amUncle Ho Says:
Well, it certainly didn’t take long for the titular head of the Rethuglic party to get on his knees and kiss the de facto leader of the GOP, Flush Limpdick’s anal ring, did it?
I was thinking he was simply going to give Rush a shout-out at the end of his interview w/DL Hughley and tell him he has “nothing but love for” and that he was “just playin.”
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:17 amJindal is the next great Mr. Rogers! LMMFAO! Howdy Doody maybe…but he is not the ‘next Ronald Reagan’! Rush leave the drugs alone dude!
Who in hell would want to buy anything with George Bush’s name on it?! Oh shucks forgot about his rightwing crazy fan club! They might buy some “W” bumper stickers! ROTFL!
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:18 am42.Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says: No, I would rather judge President Obama on what he does, not what I think he will do based on an appointment.
Okay, bilbo, expalin the enlightened rationale behind Obama’s telecom immunity vote. Particularly after promising he would vote for a filibuster of just such legislation. A 180º ‘change.’ Notwithstanding the fact that it would protect bush and the telecoms from lawsuits over illegal spying.
Next up, Obama’s 180º shift on bush’s State Secrets invocation. I’m all ears, bilbo…
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:19 amThis is from the Wonk Room and has a bearing on the for-profit/nonprofit healthcare split.
http://industry.bnet.com/healthcare/1000424/hospital-losses-lead-to-cuts-in-multiple-areas/
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:20 amTRoS – watchdog is really stuck on some major sour grapes.
he doesn’t realize how silly he looks and how simplistic his reasoning is.
as far as i can tell global warming is part of widespread climate change. it doesn’t mean that every latitutde and longitude on earth will get hotter simultaneously – what with the sun being in a basically fixed position to which our planet rotates and revolves around. then again, he’s probably still grappling with basic Copernican theories…
arguing against science got the GOP where they are currently. keep your party in the dark watchdog – your bogus claims of political independence aside.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:20 amKeith H. Says:
“I think it would be interesting to know exactly when these ‘lawyers’ began working on their definition of presidential power and who was involved in getting them started and shaping their ideas, don’t you ?”
The two biggest concerns for the current Justice Department should be that:
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:21 am1- These “legal opinions” were conceived as an attempt to justify an illegal and unConstitutional agenda and circumvent any oversight and…
2- In the very closing days of Bush’s Administration follow up legal opinions were hastily issued declaring that the Bush Administration no longer agrees with the earlier “opinions”. Sounds like a major CYA moment that AG Holder should be very interested in hearing all about.
I have to agree that we should not jump on the appointments made by Obama and predict the future. We don’t know how these people will work out – we trusted Obama with the nation, and so we should trust that he knows what he’s doing with his appointments.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:21 amThere are plenty of rightwingers who are more than willing to criticize Obama’s every breath, every step; we liberals shouldn’t model ourselves after them — that only provides fodder for the opposition. We must give Obama support now and wait to see how things play out before we jump on the negative bandwagon.
Clinton: US will do all it can to prevent nuclear Iran
Clinton maintained that the US would do “everything it could” to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons. That is the goal “of any tactic we employ,” she said.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1235898331755&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:23 am?…Who let th’ dawg in…?
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:24 amWuss wuss wusswusswuss…
watchdog points to snow and discounts global warming.
watchdog watchs a balloon float and disputes gravity.
watchdog looks at a meteor shower and thinks the heavens are coming to crush earth and bring the rapture.
watchdog looks at falling gas prices and thinks peak oil is a myth.
watchdog sees a human footprint preserved in mud near where a dinosaur skeleton was excavated and think the flintstones are a documentary.
watchdog post garbage and then laughs as he anticipates his party’s rise to prominence.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:25 amwatchdog Says:
Does anybody have the Rev. Gore’s fax number?
Why would he have a fax… don’t you know he invented the internet?
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:25 amU.S., Israel, and Arab states coalesce against Iran:
Saudi urges joint Arab strategy on Iran
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3680514,00.html
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:27 am62.Marie Says: I have to agree that we should not jump on the appointments made by Obama and predict the future. We don’t know how these people will work out – we trusted Obama with the nation, and so we should trust that he knows what he’s doing with his appointments.
Have you learned nothing in the past 8 years?
Have you learned nothing from the Reid/Pelosi comedy duo?
Have you learned nothing from the current and former staggering absence of prosecution/impeachment investigations?
Is our Obamaphiles learning yet?
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:31 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Another and more accurate name for “Global Warming is “Global Climate Change” and the affects are extreme weather conditions which include huge snow storms when there should be warmer weather.
Well-said Bilbo.
According to a climate change show I saw on one of the cable networks, global warming causes polar ice caps to melt. When that happens in significant quantities the level of salinity of the oceans will eventually drop to the point of causing major shifts in currents (such as the gulf stream). When this happens to a big enough degree, for a long enough time, the result could be the advent of another ice age. Sounds antithetical, but it is what some experts think.
I hope I didn’t simplify that too much. It is, briefly, what I remember from that show.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:33 amDNFP Says:
LIMBAUGH/WURZELBACHER 2012
I think it was HuffPo that has some hilarious coverage of Joe the Author’s book signing at some Barnes & Noble somewhere. The event was scheduled for 3 hours, but after 55 minutes they shut it down after selling 5 books.
Priceless!
hey watchdog, can you call up that link for me? Thanks!
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:33 amwatchdog Says:
I got one “Global Climate Changes Around Four Times A Year” how is this for a new catchy name for the hysteria. I will let TP use if they want too.
Does anybody have the Rev. Gore’s fax number? I want him to be in on this!
Above all, I really fail to see the negative impact of trying to curb man’s influence on the environment. I’m not sure what is laughable about trying to be conscientious with our planet and the ecosystem, but then again, i’m not a one-trick a-hole like poor ole fleabag here.
come back when the wildfires hit cali and the droughts hit the dustbowl you sod.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:36 amAnother snapshot of for-profit healthcare in America:
http://industry.bnet.com/healthcare/1000248/tenet-vs-hca-in-el-paso-how-hospitals-go-to-war/
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 amwatchdog Says:
Your right I’ll just get on the internets and type his name 3 times and wait for him to show. Thanks!!
While you’re there, try visiting about.com to learn some basica spelling and grammar you twit. It is you’re right to know. Haha, foolio!
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 amTweedster Says:
watchdog sees a human footprint preserved in mud near where a dinosaur skeleton was excavated and think the flintstones are a documentary.
OMG that is toooooo funny :)~
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 amwatchdog gets soo ecxtied that he cun’t hardly tipe!!! globall warmszing my patootu!
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:39 amExit Stage Left Says:
Tweedster Says:
watchdog sees a human footprint preserved in mud near where a dinosaur skeleton was excavated and think the flintstones are a documentary.
OMG that is toooooo funny :)~
Funny for us, sad for watchdog.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:40 amwatchdog Says:
I got one “Global Climate Changes Around Four Times A Year”
This is referred to as the seasons for those of us who don’t live on the equator. Nothing in global warming says the seasons would disappear…since the planet is still spinning on an axis relative to the sun…
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 amTweedster Says:
Exit Stage Left Says:
Tweedster Says:
watchdog sees a human footprint preserved in mud near where a dinosaur skeleton was excavated and think the flintstones are a documentary.
OMG that is toooooo funny :)~
Funny for us, sad for watchdog.
Home-school History 101
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:45 amExit Stage Left Says:
Tweedster Says:
Exit Stage Left Says:
Tweedster Says:
watchdog sees a human footprint preserved in mud near where a dinosaur skeleton was excavated and think the flintstones are a documentary.
OMG that is toooooo funny :)~
Funny for us, sad for watchdog.
Home-school History 101
Yabba-dabba-don’t!
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 amDNFP Says
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:16 am
LIMBAUGH/WURZELBACHER 2012
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Oh, that would be a dream ticket, all right. For the Democrats.
However, there are some reasons why Limbaugh would never run for President:
1. The job doesn’t pay nearly as much as the one he now has.
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 am2. It would be harder for him to indulge in some of his habits with the Secret Service around all the time.
3. He’d have to engage in actual debate at some point, and he wouldn’t be permitted to just hang up on his opponent or cut off his mike.
4. He’d discover that America contains far more people than just his dittoheads.
Access to physician care:
Doctors Seek Fees at Time Of Service
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/02/AR2009030201786.html?hpid=sec-health
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 amhanshiro Says:
btw, bilbo, you have yet to dispute any of SoTD’s information, rather you attack your presumption of his motives. Either debate the man’s issues or STFU.
Sorry, I don’t debate “what if’s”, I debate facts, things that are proven.
I have also noted a tilt towards the circular firing squad by you. Why is that? Do you also want to see President Obama fail?
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:59 amhanshiro Says:
62.Marie Says: I have to agree that we should not jump on the appointments made by Obama and predict the future. We don’t know how these people will work out – we trusted Obama with the nation, and so we should trust that he knows what he’s doing with his appointments.
Have you learned nothing in the past 8 years?
Have you learned nothing from the Reid/Pelosi comedy duo?
Have you learned nothing from the current and former staggering absence of prosecution/impeachment investigations?
Is our Obamaphiles learning yet?
Ok, hanshiro has officially joined stateofthedivision in the kingdom of trolls. It’s very sad that we have so many on this site who are participating in the “Obama’s going to fail” prediction brigade. Again, it’s no wonder Democrats have such a tough time considering how prone they are to eating their own.
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 amWhen did you start running TP? You and stateofthedivision are trolls who pretend to be progressives no better than watchdog. None of you are worth debating.
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:06 amTweedster Says:
This is referred to as the seasons for those of us who don’t live on the equator. Nothing in global warming says the seasons would disappear…since the planet is still spinning on an axis relative to the sun…
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 am
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I doubt this will help – science deniers like watchdog probably don’t believe in the Copernican system
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 amhussein toasterhead Says:
Tweedster Says:
This is referred to as the seasons for those of us who don’t live on the equator. Nothing in global warming says the seasons would disappear…since the planet is still spinning on an axis relative to the sun…
March 3rd, 2009 at 10:43 am
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I doubt this will help – science deniers like watchdog probably don’t believe in the Copernican system
True.
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:14 am83. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says: I have also noted a tilt towards the circular firing squad by you. Why is that? Do you also want to see President Obama fail?
Okay, Queeg…and no I didn’t take the quart of strawberries either…
Idiot.
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:21 amTrolls? Please. More like a TP double standard, enforced by name calling TP bouncers:
http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/02/13/mccaughey-biotech/
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcompany&CIK=0001144511&owner=include&count=40
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Ok, hanshiro has officially joined stateofthedivision in the kingdom of trolls. It’s very sad that we have so many on this site who are participating in the “Obama’s going to fail” prediction brigade.
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:03 am
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But we also shouldn’t just put on blinders and say “we’ll support Obama no matter what.” If he’s not pursuing a progressive agenda, if he’s capitulating too much to the right, then we need to pressure him and his administration. We need to criticize, organize, and protest if need be.
Yes, some of the constant criticism from the left on this site has begun to look a lot like trolling, but we shouldn’t let this blind us to actual, legitimate criticism of Obama’s policies.
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 am84. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says: Ok, hanshiro has officially joined stateofthedivision in the kingdom of trolls.
Only in your paranoid little mind, bilbo. Calling any politician on questionable behavior and presenting evidence and links doesn’t constitute a troll.
I’m still waiting for your followup to the Britney Spears video entitled, “Leave Obama Aloooooone!”
It’s very sad that we have so many on this site who are participating in the “Obama’s going to fail” prediction brigade.
Sadder still are the insular fanboys who broach no criticism of their idol, despite the real fact that this very attitude landed us in our present disaster and ignoring the growing indications, telecom immunity, state secrets defense, that Obama has some gaping and dangerous ‘flaws.’
Again, it’s no wonder Democrats have such a tough time considering how prone they are to eating their own.
The only danger is reciting the idiot’s phrase: “In Obama we trust.” The real patriots will apply consistency and scrutiny no matter who the hell is in office.
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 am90.hussein toasterhead Says: But we also shouldn’t just put on blinders and say “we’ll support Obama no matter what.” If he’s not pursuing a progressive agenda, if he’s capitulating too much to the right, then we need to pressure him and his administration. We need to criticize, organize, and protest if need be. Yes, some of the constant criticism from the left on this site has begun to look a lot like trolling, but we shouldn’t let this blind us to actual, legitimate criticism of Obama’s policies.
Thank you, that is my point exactly.
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:33 am85. Shayne Says: When did you start running TP? You and stateofthedivision are trolls who pretend to be progressives no better than watchdog. None of you are worth debating.
Shayne, I crap bigger’n you…
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:35 amwatchdog Says:
“BO’s economy starting to smell and is running out of people to blame”
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Article from the WSJ, now owned by Rupert Murdoch.
How long until there’s a weekly Page 3 girl in the WSJ?
Funny… after ONE MONTH in office, Obama doesn’t get to blame Botch anymore, BUT… 5, 6, 7 yrs after the fact, It Was All Clinton’s Fault™, over and over and over and over and over again.
NEXT!!!!
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:49 am94. watchdog Says:
whackdog, you have nothing to rival bush’s attempt to vacate the first amendment:
You got nuthin’ whackdog, besides posting random links with no central debate or dialogue point.
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:52 am97. watchdog Says: I guess if that little thing called the repeal of the glass-steagall act didn’t take place you would have a point.
whackdog is into reruns already. The Glass-Steagall act:
Banking disaster? Thank a republican….Bad dog…baaaaad dog…
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 amOver on the Wonk Room:
Why should you believe Richard Scott, the former CEO of Columbia/HCA Healthcare who was forced to resign amid fraud charges, when he says that Obama’s health care plan will “ration care” and place patients on “waiting lists”?
Where do you think TP got the lead? Posts #20 & 24
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 pmI’m just guessing that a few “For Profit” health care organization might be sending a few bucks in the direction of the “Conservatives for Patients’ Rights.” We know that means they are really concerned about the investors’ rights to make as much possible money and provide as little service as possible to the “Patients.”
It is time to get profit out of health care. It is clear that the basic structure of “for profit” health care tilts in favor of the organization and not the patient, so automatically, health care is compromised.
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 pm102.watchdog Says: Wonderful with that logic then all this economic mess is the Democraps fault. We know they took control of the house in 2006. Thanks for clearing it all up for me!
Yes, and with control of one house, they overrode the president and the senate…somehow..and enacted some mysterious unnamed dem policy that tanked the economy..
..all within a short two-year span. Thanks for clarifying your ‘position,’ now pardon me, whackdog, while I laugh in your face,
bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:20 pmwatchdog Says:
Wonderful with that logic then all this economic mess is the Democraps fault. We know they took control of the house in 2006. Thanks for clearing it all up for me!
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Not quite sure how you magically leaped to that conclusion, but hey,, you gotta be you.
Perhaps you’d care to debate Ben Stein on that issue… “total mismanagement under the BOTCH ADmin”
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:20 pmPresident Obama hired another lobbyist, Dan Shapiro. He worked for Timmons & Company since February 2007. Sec. of State Hillary Clinton announced Shapiro would be one of two envoys to Syria.
http://arisfreedomswitch.blogspot.com/2009/03/us-state-department-envoys-for-syria.html
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:02 pmHaaretz reported the following headline.
Kerry: Iran program is not only an anxiety, it`s existential threat for Israel
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/ShowTickers.jhtml
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:15 pmDirty Max Baucus offered the U.S. Chamber of Commerce position, decrease tax deductiblily of employer sponsored health insurance. That greases the skid for the dump to the employee.
If it’s deductible for the individual and not the business, guess who’ll get the health insurance bill? Ron Wyden D-OR proposed a similar plan in the past.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/healthNewsMolt/idUKTRE52255S20090303
This goes back to ex-Triad Hospital CEO Denny Shelton’s views. He’s the health adviser for Nancy-Ann DeParle’s CCMP Capital Advisers.
Corporate America cannot afford the expensive health insurance benefit and compete in a global economy.
Therefore, corporate America won’t pay. That leaves the individual or the government.
The race to the lowest global common denominator on taxes and worker pay/benefits continues. Dirty Max, Corrupt Ken Conrad, and Wicked Wyden are ready to do their part.
March 3rd, 2009 at 3:31 pmUS Israel support ‘unshakeable’
US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has restated “unshakeable” support for Israel, whatever type of government emerges from current coalition talks.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7920210.stm
March 3rd, 2009 at 6:24 pmProof that Obama won’t solve the uninsured problem anytime soon:
http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersComService_2_MOLT/idUSTRE5216OP20090302
Health centers were Bush’s signature strategy, that and high deductible health plans which he lied and called health savings accounts. While linked HDHP’s and HSA’s are two different animals. Bush called them one to fake progress.
Health centers and a PEU White House health reformer, President Obama looks a bit Bushy.
March 3rd, 2009 at 7:25 pm