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Bachmann: GOP Must ‘Do Everything We Can To Thwart’ Obama From Securing ‘A Power Base…For All Time’

Conservative talker Bill Bennett interviewed Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) on his radio show this morning. During the interview, Bennett asked, “Why [is Obama siding] with the liberal House Democrats rather than the more moderate [members]?” Answering his own question, Bennett continued, “The answer is because that may be where he is…the most liberal member of the Senate.”

Bachmann concurred, but added that she believes Republicans should “thwart” as much of Obama’s agenda as possible, specifically citing what she called “socialized medicine” and “the new tax on energy”:

BACHMANN: If you want to look at economic history over the last 100 years. I call it punctuated equilibrium. If you look at FDR, LBJ, and Barack Obama, this is really the final leap to socialism. … But we all know that we could turn this around and we can turn this around fairly quickly. We’re still a free country.

And as the Democrats are about to institutionalize cartels — that’s what they’re very good at — they’re trying to consolidate power, so we need to do everything we can to thwart them at every turn to make sure that they aren’t able to, for all time, secure a power base that for all time can never be defeated.

Listen here:

In calling for the obstruction of Obama’s policies for sake of Republican political fortune, Bachmann seems to be taking her cues from the de facto leader of her party, Rush Limbaugh. During the recent fight over Obama’s economic recovery package Limbaugh warned that, should it be successful, the recovery package would hurt Republicans electorally because the plan would “buy votes for the Democrat Party” and “re-establish ‘eternal’ power for the Democrat Party.”

Bachmann’s references to “FDR” and “LBJ” suggest that she also found Bill Kristol’s recent column convincing. Kristol wrote that republicans should “find reasons to obstruct and delay” the Obama agenda to ensure that he cannot succeed:

They should do their best not to permit Obama to rush his agenda through this year. They can’t allow Obama to make of 2009 what Franklin Roosevelt made of 1933 or Johnson of 1965. Slow down the policy train. Insist on a real and lengthy debate. Conservatives can’t win politically right now. But they can raise doubts.

Emily Aden



130 Responses to “Bachmann: GOP Must ‘Do Everything We Can To Thwart’ Obama From Securing ‘A Power Base…For All Time’”

  1. spencers mom says:

    Batshit crazy. All other words fail.

    PEACE


  2. alphainfinityomega says:

    Where was she at when Bush was in office?

    ¶ AIO


  3. fletc3her says:

    I’m sure Stephen J Gould would roll over in his grave if he heard an anti-science, anti-evolution, demagogue like Michelle Bachmann using terms from evolutionary science to describe the economic and political history of the United States. It’s bad enough to torture a metaphor by likening our economy to evolution, but likening our economy to a science in which you don’t even believe just stretches credulity.


  4. krystalviews says:

    This woman sounds as back-assed, delusional and rigid as “granny” in the Beverly Hillbillies. Except Granny was a lot more likable.


  5. ralph the wonder llama says:

    And how would President Obama secure a power base for all time?

    By guiding the nation out of this economic maelstrom the Republicans have steered us into.

    If America succeeds, Obama gets the credit.

    This is what Republicans fear. This is why they are all saying they hope he fails.


  6. larkohio says:

    Michelle is nuts! Why was she ever elected? I am hoping that Obama’s policies will pass, and will work, we will have a better country because of it. They are obstucting just because they can, not because they care about our country.


  7. hillary1 says:

    Man, I hope she just keeps talking and talking…everytime she opens her mouth, it’s a downpayment on another four years of Democrats in power.


  8. misshusseinmolly says:

    Does Bachmann realize that FDR gave us Social Security and LBJ gave us Medicare? Both programs that have been successful for years? Both programs that have kept our elderly from living and dying in our streets?

    No, of course not. Bachmann is merely a parrot. It’s not like she has the capability of original thought.


  9. belac says:

    Then by all means, please continue to play to your base and alienate new voters… that’s sure to ‘thwart’ someone.

    Suckers.


  10. barfly says:

    But we all know that we could turn this around and we can turn this around fairly quickly. We’re still a free country.

    If by free, you mean free to be wiretapped, tortured, and free to buy lead-painted toys for our kids, then yeah.

    How will they phrase their apologies, when the stimulus is a success?


  11. DRxJ says:

  12. barfly says:

    Actually, I can already guess: they will try to show that the stimulus was just a natural continuation of conservative policies, and as such no big deal. They will congratulate Obama for following their lead.


  13. DRxJ says:

    Sorry Minnesota. You voted for her.
    She is all yours.

    Even my moderate friend from there just shook his head in belief when she got reelected.

    As the poster above so eloquently said…
    Bat shit crazy, I tell ya!


  14. hellinabucket says:

    Another example of the sad state of affairs the GOP is. This hole their digging will only get deeper until they provide this country a mea culpa in regards to the last administration. Republicans can’t be trusted and Americans are tired of hearing their fearmongering.


  15. Badmoodman says:

    BACHMANN: If you want to look at economic history over the last 100 years. I call it punctuated equilibrium.

    – - Yeah, because if anyone is familiar with equilibrium being hit-or-miss, it’s you M-Bach.


  16. TheAntichrist says:

    From The CIA’s Website… Here are the life expectancies of all “communist” states with oppressive “socialized” healthcare…

    Israel: male:78.54 female:82.79
    Canada: males:78.65 females:83.81
    France: males:77.68 females:84.23
    Japan: male:78.73 females:85.59
    United Kingdom: males:76.37 females:81.46
    Australia: male:79.16 female:84.02
    Greece: male:76.98 female:82.21
    Lichtenstein: males:76.38 females:83.52 Netherlands: male:76.66 females: 81.98
    Spain: males:76.6 females:83.45
    Norway: males:77.16 females:82.6
    Sweden: males:78.49 female:83.13
    Italy: males:77.13 female:83.2
    Austria: male:76.46 female:82.41
    Switzerland: males:77.91 female:83.71
    New Zealand: male:78.33 female:82.25
    Iceland: male:78.43 female:82.76
    Singapore: male:79.29 female:84.68
    Kuwait: male:76.38 female:78.73
    Andorra: male:80.35 female:85.14
    Anguilla: male:78.01 female:83.12
    Cayman Islands: male:77.68 female:83
    Faroe Islands: male:76.86 female:81.89 Gibraltar: male:77.17 female:83.09
    Guernsey: male:77.64 female:83.76
    Hong Kong: male:79.07 female:84.69
    Jersey: male:77.15 female:82.35
    Macau: male:81.36 female:87.45
    Malta: male:77.08 female:81.64
    Saint Pierre and Miquelon: male:76.55 female:81.4
    San Marino: male:78.43 female:85.64————————————————————————————————————–>The United States: males:75.29 females:81.13…..

    Stop Playing Politics With The American Peoples quality of life and Health!!!

    And stop repeating talking points that come from corporatist fear merchants like Rush, The Heritage Foundation, and the wing nuts at Fight Obama News (Fox)…

    WE SURROUND YOU!


  17. DRxJ says:

    Hey. I think I just “worm holed”.
    Pretty cool.


  18. Badmoodman says:

    alphainfinityomega Says:
    Where was she at when Bush was in office?

    – - Under his desk.


  19. skarecro says:

    What is there to talk about? The republican way was tried and it failed miserably.

    Time for talk is over.

    Talk for republicans = please give us another chance to show you we are willing to give you more of the same crap.


  20. Ape-Man says:

    Really, I hope these people can finally explain what they want, instead of couching everything in impending doom? Until then we aren’t listening to whining about tax.


  21. hellinabucket says:

    Wasn’t she the one that wouldn’t let go of Bush after some speech at the Capital. She was glowing and kept a firm grab on W.


  22. Teowens says:

    BACHMANN:we need to do everything we can to thwart them at every turn to make sure that they aren’t able to, for all time, secure a power base that for all time can never be defeated.

    Bill Kristol:They should do their best not to permit Obama to rush his agenda through this year. They can’t allow Obama to make of 2009 what Franklin Roosevelt made of 1933 or Johnson of 1965. Slow down the policy train. Insist on a real and lengthy debate. Conservatives can’t win politically right now. But they can raise doubts.

    You’d think recent polling would have told them something!

    WaPo/ABC News: 73 percent say Obama is “trying to compromise with the Republican leaders in Congress” while just 34 percent believe Republican leaders are trying to compromise with Obama.

    NYT/CBS News: 74 percent think Obama is “trying to work with Republicans in Congress” while just 31 percent think Republicans in Congress are trying to work with Obama.

    Fox News/Opinion Dynamics: 68 percent believe that Obama “has sincerely tried to reach out to Republicans and be bipartisan” while only 33 percent believe Republicans have “sincerely tried to be helpful to Barack Obama and be bipartisan.”

    I guess nobody told Kristol and Bachmann that just as you saw with the stimulus package Republicans aren’t in a position to block ANYTHING! In the long run all the GOP will do his hurt themselves if they can’t come up with a soultion other than NO!!!


  23. had enough says:

    All President Obama wants to do is save our country.

    To have a problem with that is anti American… anti American equals terrorist in my book.


  24. SnoBird says:

    Lordy, don’t let this happen: “Democrats are about to institutionalize cartels.”

    You freakin’ loon . . . cartels? The GOP is gunning to protect “cartels”?

    If it’s a cartel in America, it should be trust busted. If it’s too big to fail, it’s a cartel. I’m not too happy about it, but Obama is continuing the Bush policy of bailing out “cartels” at tax payer expense. You should be in hog heaven.

    To say that this cartel busting policy should be “thwarted” feeds right into my theory that, when Rush and co. assert that they “hope Obama fails,” they aren’t talking wishful thinking, they are making a call for sabotage . . . undermine Obama policies at all costs, double down, dirty tricks are all on the table . . . just make sure Obama’s policies crash and burn . . . the public good be damned . . . success is not an option!


  25. PissedOffVeteran says:

    DRxJ Says:

    Sorry Minnesota. You voted for her.
    She is all yours.

    Just around 40% (I think) of her really conservative district voted for her. I voted for Walz in dist 1 here in so. MN

    Third Independent party (Jessie Ventura!) pulled too many votes. But there ya go
    Batshit Crazy is as Batshit Crazy does


  26. CheeseFlap says:

    We can’t have progress
    We can build a new facade
    Help save our clown school


  27. TheAntichrist says:

    If Obama betrays us (it’s looking like he won’t) and he doesn’t offer a public healthcare option and FIGHTS the republicans, we should revolt against him. Period!


  28. barfly says:

    Conservatives can’t win politically right now. But they can raise doubts.

    About their ability to actually govern, instead of the worthless grandstanding that they usually do.


  29. barrelhse says:

    Fun Republican game: see who can be the the most foolish without pulling down your pants.


  30. jjm says:

    Put party ahead of country — the Republican mantra. They are squirming at being out of power; the odd thing is they have zero self-reflection, and see their defeat as a temporary aberration. I wonder if they have any capacity at all for introspection about their failings? If so they wouldn’t be falling all over themselves to do more of what the people rejected: being pig-headed and self-centered and unwilling to work with others for the good of all.


  31. Max-1 says:

    .

    Michelle Bachmann (R-MN)

    “Blah, blah blah, Bill Ayers, blah, blah, blah, socialism, blah, blah, blah, most Liberal in Congress, blah, blah, blah, cartells, blah, blah, blah, power base.”

    Did she say something?

    .


  32. misshusseinmolly says:

    More fearmongering from the right. A “power base for all time” for Obama is far scarier than a “permanent Republican majority” — or is it?

    In the first place, we have found that there really isn’t such a thing as anything “for all time”, or anything that’s “permanent”. If the party in power screws up, they can get voted out — even if they’ve done their d*mndest to turn their power structure into a dictatorship.

    The Republicans are also screaming into the wind. Right now, there are a lot of voters who think that a “power base for all time” for the Democrats seems like a pretty cool idea.


  33. paleolib says:

    The crazy is strong with this one. I haven’t heard such a melange of random, mismatched words since Palin at the veep debate.


  34. 666lattes says:

    Bachmann: “I call it punctuated equilibrium.”

    No you don’t. You have absolutely no idea what that means, because if you did, you would know that it is an evolutionary biology term and you don’t believe in evolution.

    So which is it?


  35. DRxJ says:

    Michelle Bachmann. Just a female version of Ann Coulter.


  36. Namtillaku says:

    spencers mom Says:

    Batshit crazy. All other words fail.

    PEACE

    This was the only post needed, as it sums up Bachmann perfectly.


  37. themole says:

    Nevermind what she said, I’m most offended by her indecent choice of clothing! How DARE she wear a sleeveless outfit!


  38. iamwhoiam says:

    Stupid woman. She is not even their usual evil, she is just so damn stupid.


  39. SnoBird says:

    Cartels should never be institutionalized . . . they should live free (literally, for “free”), unimpeded by regulation or oversight . . . Oligarchy rules.

    Perhaps, institutionalization is only appropriate in the cases of those crazy Coo-coos: Bachmann, Limbaugh and Steele.


  40. krystalviews says:

    Max-1 #31 smile and LOL – Loved it!


  41. Art says:

    Why do Republicans hate America?


  42. kasinca says:

    Wingnuttery at it’s finest!


  43. The Dogfather says:

    So Bachmann actually said that the Rushpublicans “need to do everything we can to thwart them at every turn to make sure that they aren’t able to, for all time, secure a power base that for all time can never be defeated,” eh?

    The fascinating thing about this is that with everything she and the rest of the Rushpublicans have done lately, they’re making it more likely, not less likely, that the Dems are “able to, for all time secure a power base that for all time can never be defeated.”

    I love it when they pound the nails in their own coffins. Keep up the work, Rushpublicans — yer doin’ a heckuva job!


  44. Uncle Ho says:

    Obstruct Obama’s programs for sake of Rethuglic party fortunes. Admitting that the Greedy Old Pigs first priority is :

    PARTY ABOVE COUNTRY


  45. Max-1 says:

    … Meant to say “I’d tell Michelle Blahmann…”


  46. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    Did Bachman and Palin attend the same speech training school? Do they have they have a template, thus:

    Obama is promoting ____A____ through his policies of ___B____ government and in time he will complete the work of _____C_____ and make America a ______D_____ country. We Republicans are the last hope for _____E_____ in our nation. We must defeat the _____F_____ of the Democrat Party at all costs.

    A = socialism, marxism, communism, terrorism
    B = European, nanny, Big, godless, punctuated equilibrium
    C = FDR, Clinton, Carter, LBJ, the USSR, the terrorists
    D = bankrupt, failed, welfare-state, non-competitive
    E = fiscal responsibility, accountability, security, the future, values and morality
    F = power hunger, defeatism, unAmerican policies, institutionalized cartels, European influence, liberalism


  47. Max-1 says:

    misshusseinmolly,
    I wonder how that “permanent moral majority” is looking about now? I’d Michelle Blahmann but her head might explode and then she’d have to use her socialized health care to remedy her ills… and like she said, “We can’t have that”.


  48. joe cantwell says:

    if i didn’t need them for walking around in

    i’d throw my shoes at michelle bachmann!

    *

    :)


  49. Max-1 says:

    krystalviews,
    Thanks. I swear I wrote the same thing about Miss Blahmann a few months back…
    … Because she was saying the same damn crap a few months back before her “permanent moral majority” just got slapped in November, AGAIN!

    .


  50. raynman says:

    Limbaugh/Bachmann in 2012!


  51. Max-1 says:

    OK, postings are appearing out of order…
    … My post #45 came after #47. Please read in that order to eliminate any confusion as to what I’d do with Miss Blahmann.


  52. Kid Charlemagne says:

    But-but-but Michael Steele is “da man”.


  53. had enough says:

    #
    #
    TheAntichrist Says:

    If Obama betrays us (it’s looking like he won’t) and he doesn’t offer a public healthcare option and FIGHTS the republicans, we should revolt against him. Period!

    Let me get this straight… we should revolt because damage from the biggest robbery in history by the Bush Crime Family is not repairable in a timely manner for you?

    President Obama is the best man for this job…. and to set him up as a failure because he can not clean Bush’s sewer fast enough is a very weak gopper tactic.


  54. Mike71654 says:

    Republican Motto…Lets not work on making America better, let’s focus on making everone that does not agree with us bad.


  55. hanshiro says:

    16. TheAntichrist Says: Stop Playing Politics With The American Peoples quality of life and Health!!!

    Nicely done, AC. Sobering stats.


  56. belac says:

    Hey Troll B.O. and Michelle~
    All your base are belong to us…


  57. voteforamerica says:

  58. Fred says:

    So the dark underbelly of the snake is revealed and the real motive for their obstructionism is exposed.

    They care not for America, only for power.


  59. nanlichi says:

    Like a female Coulter… That’s a classic DrxJ. Thanks for that.

    Punctuated equilibrium? Wow! Who was intelligent enough to design that?

    That kind of nonsense talk is going to get Bachmann in trouble with the freakoid base.


  60. AlphaLiberal says:

    That’s one idiot, I’ll tell you.


  61. Buckie Boy says:

    The sick fcuks want to destroy the country for political gains…real patriotic of them.

    FCUK THE REPUBLICAN TRAITORS


  62. LibertyLover says:

    Yeah, why do the right thing when you can do the wrong thing in order to be relevant?


  63. Uncle Ho says:

    misshusseinmolly says:

    FDR gave us social security as part of the New Deal, it was VERY successful. LBJ gave us Medicare as part of the Great Society.

    This is EXACTLY what the Rethugs scared shitless about. Giving to the ‘have nots’ cuts into their worldview that only the “haves” should have, destroys their fairy tales about “ownership society”


  64. had enough says:

    Terrorists/GOP think alike…

    They both want our country to fail.

    Can not be said enough.


  65. mk3872 says:

    Sure she got this from Limbaugh or Kristol. She is the perfect example of Republican automoton without a brain that just fills her head with talk radio and talking points and recites on auto-drive.


  66. Zimzone says:

    I’m not in her voting district; rich exurban Christian Right area.

    Yes, this was the one grabbing Bush at the SOTU address. She was less than 5 seconds from being body slammed by the SS.

    She gave political campaign speeches from Church alters. The IRS is still examining the Church’s records.

    She also pretty well sums up the Rushpublican Party…all mouth & no brains.

    If I could beyatch slap anyone right now, it would be Blahmann.


  67. stefan says:

    They are right to be worried about being marginalized.

    But what they don’t seem to be able to do – or even *understand* that it matters – is come up with better ideas.


  68. SnoBird says:

    Interesting, while loony tune Rushpugs decry what they allege are socialist policies, they have no problem with fascist policies.

    As defined by Wikipedia (that great authority):

    Fascism is a radical, authoritarian nationalist ideology that aims to create a single-party state, with a strong central leadership who seeks national unity and development by requiring individuals to subordinate self-interest to the collective interest of the nation or race.

    Fascist movements promote violence between nations, political factions, and races as part of a social Darwinist and militarist stance that views violence between these groups as a natural and positive part of evolution.

    Fascists believe only the strong deserve to survive and that healthy, vital, superior peoples should conquer, dominate and eventually eliminate people deemed weak and degenerate.

    Fascist governments permanently forbid and suppress all criticism and opposition to the government and the fascist movement, viewing all dissenters as enemies to be destroyed.

    Fascist movements oppose any ideology or political system that gives direct political power to people as individuals rather than as a collective nation or race (democracy, individualism, liberalism); that is deemed detrimental to national identity and unity (internationalism, communism, class conflict, laissez-faire capitalism); that protects and empowers people deemed weak and degenerate (egalitarianism); and that undermine the military strength and military ambitions of the nation (pacifism). They also oppose traditionalists and conservatives who may seek to preserve any of the the privileges, institutions and cultural values that fascism seeks to overthrow.

    Following the defeat of the Axis powers in World War II and the publicity surrounding the atrocities committed during the period of fascist governments, the term fascist has been used as a pejorative word, particularly against people with right-wing politics.

    Long post, but seems to sum up the Bush/Rush policy.


  69. davidsline says:

    Here’s the good news.

    The voting population of the US is roughly 223 million people.

    126 million voted in the last prez election.

    Of those people, the largest group of new voters is people under 30.

    People under 30 went through the roof for Democrat candidates in national, state and local elections.

    People under 30 will (as a rule) live longer than people over 50. They will certainly have more children born to them. They will instill their values in these children.

    Conclusion: The shift in America to Center/LEFT is only beginning.

    Right wingers are soon to be on the endangered species list. Personally, I’ll save a spotted owl first!


  70. kcdrew says:

    I said this ever since Barack Obama became President–ever since W, his administration and the Repugs screwed the pooch in the last 8 years, this is why our new President Obama can’t, in their eyes and for their futures, succeed. If he does–and he needs to, for the country’s sake–they’re screwed for AT LEAST a generation, if not two or more.

    THAT is why Rush “Porkulus” Limbaugh and other Repugs don’t want him to succeed.

    Mo Rage
    http://www.moravings.blogspot.com
    http://www.kcphotogblog.blogspot.com


  71. deebaser says:

    I hope she wins in 2010. I don’t know what I would do without the lulz.


  72. citizen_pain says:

    When is someone who is interviewing one of these right wing whackos going to ask the very simple question:

    What would you do to turn the economy around?

    Then they could proceed to eviscerate the answer, which is sure to be tax cuts and market deregulation, by stating the fact that WE HAVE ALREADTY TRIED THAT!


  73. hbpirate says:

    New motto for the rethugs. We have to destroy the country in order to save it.


  74. kcdrew says:

    Stefan,

    The Repugs problem is that they don’t have any ideas or solutions as we all know. That’s why they are the “Party of ‘no’”. They’re desperate to come up with ideas–but don’t have any.

    Mo Rage
    http://www.moravings.blogspot.com
    http://www.kcphotogblog.blogspot.com


  75. SnoBird says:

    Hey all Cajuns, you folks down in the bayou, not members of the Cartels that hope to destroy your swamps . . .

    When Katrina hit and you got no help, did you feel that the government was trying to eliminate you? Hey Jindall, by refusing the Unemployment money, are you hoping the deginerates will simply leave Louisiana for more compassionate grounds in other states.

    If you are displaced in Louisiana, fascism may be the problem. Read:

    “Fascists believe only the strong deserve to survive and that healthy, vital, superior peoples should conquer, dominate and eventually eliminate people deemed weak and degenerate.”


  76. SnoBird says:

    Ethnic cleansing, American style.


  77. Winski says:

    Bachmann/Bennett/Limberger/Hannity/Billo: Rant..rave..Rant…rave…Rant…rave……..

    Interviewer: Ok. Well what would you recommend, in this economic environment, as an alternative to Obama’s programs?

    Bachmann/Bennett/Limberger/Hannity/Billo:
    Rant..rave..Rant…rave…Rant…rave……..

    Interviewer: That doesn’t tell me very much. Could you please be a little more specific??

    Bachmann/Bennett/Limberger/Hannity/Billo:
    Rant..rave..Rant…rave…Rant…rave……..

    Interviewer: Thank you but since you have NOTHING to add to ANY conversation I think we’ll move along to another location where IQ’s are larger than the pebbles of gravel you’re standing on.


  78. DanCaveman says:

    The GOP still doesn’t get it. This isn’t about a power base for one party or another, it is about what is best for the United States of America.


  79. spencers mom says:

    When I see her, all I can think of “Surrender Dorothy!”

    PEACE


  80. kcdrew says:

    What a comparison–Michelle Bachmann’s empty-headed drivel vs. Katrina Vanden Heuvel’s intelligence and spot-on brilliance.

    A perfect comparison of the desperate, pathetic conservative right vs. the progressive, thought-out left.

    Bring it on, Bachmann.

    Mo Rage
    http://www.moravings.blogspot.com
    http://www.kcphotogblog.blogspot.com


  81. hanshiro says:

    54. had enough Says: President Obama is the best man for this job…. and to set him up as a failure because he can not clean Bush’s sewer fast enough is a very weak gopper tactic.

    While AC’s post was a little over the top and histrionic, my guess is that the current health care situation didn’t come about because of bush. The system has been broken for decades and both parties have allowed the pharma/insurance juggernaut to set the agenda and cost untold lives based on the horrific idea of profitable suffering.

    The age of for-profit health care should be vanquished for good. The #1 system is owned by France and the idea that there’s a viable health care template that clearly works, but is ’shunned’ because of anti-populist corporate rhetoric is an abomination of our society.

    The Bachmann’s, Hannitys and any other corporate shill should be bankrupted through economic attacks on their biggest sponsors.

    AC’s rage, I suspect, is fatigue at having every ‘hope-spouting’ politician sucker people into believing in a possibility, only to watch helplessly as yet another politico acquiesces to a corporate interest, at the expense of real live Americans.

    Using the faux boogieman of ’socialism’ only perpetuates ignorance and maintains the pharma/insurance chokehold, guaranteeing more indigent patients dumped on street corners, more patients dying after 24+hours in a waiting room, and more patients denied lifesaving treatment because of insurance refusals, cancellations, and denials.

    This system is positively baroque. And infuriating that it has killed us for so long.

    Only the corporate moneymen and their congressional surrogates are interested in propping up this veritable goldmine in which the average Americans are forced to scrabble without guarantee or legal recourse. What better time to cheat someone than when they are besieged with illness or tragedy. Trauma tends to wear people down to the point of an inability to fight the overwhelming clout of a for-profit insurance giant.

    Perfect sheep for the shearing.

    Stamp out for-profit health care. It is a crime against all humanity and with the US rated #37 in health care, it’s a crime against America.


  82. SnoBird says:

    hanshiro,

    Nice post.


  83. dasm says:

    Those poor Republicans. They just don’t get it. No one wants their stupid theatrics & anti-U.S. rhetoric.


  84. hanshiro says:

    83. SnoBird Says: hanshiro, Nice post.

    Thanks. I see we’re both given to a bit of verbosity today…

    ;-)


  85. SnoBird says:

  86. Zimzone says:

    hanshiro, #82…well said.

    Stamp out for-profit health care.

    Look at it this way, insurers make the most money off of you when you’re well. They get the premiums, you’re not submitting claims.
    Insurers make the least money off sick people, even if they’re denying some of the claims.

    So, as hanshiro notes better than I’m able to, insurance companies PROFIT most off your good health.

    Why should anyone profit off your good health?


  87. TheAntichrist says:

    Had Enough says:

    “Let me get this straight… we should revolt because damage from the biggest robbery in history by the Bush Crime Family is not repairable in a timely manner for you?”

    That’s not the point!

    Obama promised me during the campaign that I would have the option of choosing between public and private healthcare.
    Him saying that lead me to vote for him.

    If he doesn’t keep his word, he should be held accountable by me and he’d better have a damn good explaination…

    He promised me, he has the votes in congress, DO YOUR FREAKIN JOB AND FIGHT FOR ME.

    What’s hard to understand about that.


  88. 1984 says:

    I’m still trying to figure out why she even is in politics.


  89. Mathazar says:

    How many times are we going to hear the word socialism during the next four years.

    I have yet to see any republican solutions to the health insurance crisis, other than “just go to an emergency room”.

    Why don’t they take a survey in Canada, asking if Canucks would like to trade their health insurance for America’s version.


  90. SnoBird says:

    Brandon Flowers, a good Mormon (’nuff said about Mormons and porn) . . .

    Anyway, Bachmann and Ann Coulter should meditate on The Killers and ask themselves, “Are we human, or are we dancers?”

    Not human, and like poor pathetic loons at the prom, dancing solo.


  91. continuum says:

    At least Bachman is unintentionally honest.

    The Republicans do not care about economic recovery.

    The Republicans do not care about the majority of Americans.

    The Republicans are against the Obama stimulus program, not because it would harm the United States.

    The Republicans are against the Obama stimulus program because they are afraid that the stimulus will succeed.

    The Republicans put themselves above the welfare of the nation.

    The Republicans . . . party above country.


  92. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    batshit crazy bachmann is proof positive that getting “hot for jesus” raises one’s temperature to the point where brain da,age is inevitable


  93. Bozo The Neoclown says:

  94. hanshiro says:

    65. had enough Says: Terrorists/GOP think alike…They both want our country to fail. Can not be said enough.

    Indeed. If we had a ‘liberal’ Limbaugh equivalent, (more cordial, classier, etc.) this would make an excellent noise machine mantra.


  95. Hussein Leporello says:

    Electroshock followed by Thorazine chasers for the Representitive of the great states of Michigan and Dementia.


  96. Keith says:

    Obama securing a power base for All Time?
    You mean even after the Sun expands past Earth’s orbit?
    Golly, that’s a long time!


  97. tarazan says:

    Steele to Limbaugh :”You are nothing but an ‘entertainer’”.

    Limbaugh to Steele:” You are playing a ‘media star’”.

    Suddenly a loud and squeaky voice of Bachmann was heard at the Conservatives’ gathering:

    “Mr., Steele, You are the man, you are da man…”

    It does not get any better than that.

    Just have more popcorn .


  98. wizard2000 says:

    FDR’s New Deal was non-partisan. These federally-funded work programs helped Republicans, Democrats and Independents…and their families.

    LBJ’s Great Society and War on Poverty was non-partisan. These federal efforts helped Republicans, Democrats and Independents…and their families.

    George W. Bush and Dick Cheney entered the White House in January 2001 with only one goal, to establish a “permanent Republican majority” which would entail their using the executive branch (with the help of the Republican-controlled Congress) to only direct federal taxpayer money to Republican groups and individuals. Bypassing the federal, non-partisan bidding process, therefore, was essential to this nefarious plot. Thus, all the no-bid contracts awarded to Republican companies and individuals in an attempt to freeze out any Democrats or liberal-leaning Independents getting some of their taxpayer contributions back. The Paulson bail-out plan was just more of the same, directing billions to top-tier Republican campaign donors heading corporations (the corporations that created this meltdown in the first place), while doing absolutely nothing to stop the job loss bleeding caused by the economic downturn, which by the way, is adversely impacting working-class Republicans and small-business Republicans just as much as Democrats and Independents.

    President Barack Obama’s stimulus plan is non-partisan, just like FDR’s and LBJ’s. Obama’s plan helps Republicans, Democrats and Independents…and their families.

    Which is why the top-tier “permanent Republican majority” fascist-leaning Republicans are so upset. Their fascist takeover of our democratic government and society has failed (for the time being). Because our federal taxpayer dollars are going to others besides just more-wealthy-the-better Republicans (as happened during the Bush/Cheney administration), they are against Obama’s economic recovery plan…no matter how many working-class and small-business Republicans suffer the consequences of what the top-tier fascist-leaning Republicans caused with their Nigerian Prince schemes over the past eight years.

    I am really beginning to question the patriotism of many of these top-tier fascist-leaning Republicans.


  99. avshanbh says:

    The more she and Limbaugh open their mouths the better the chance of Democrats establishing a permanent power base. Keep talking shit head.


  100. dbadass says:

    Bachmann and Palin would make a really wacky ticket


  101. teri3157 says:

    As my grandmother used to say when we picked something up off the side walk, “Fayh! Put that down! A Republican might have touched that! Do you want to get sick and go crazy for the rest of your life?!”

    See? That’s how you kids will wind up, just like Michelle Bachman, if you go touching things that are dirty, creepy and republican!


  102. SnoBird says:

    “Fascism” seems like a demonic label to attach to the GOP, but if the shoe fits, wear it.

    For every time the GOP spits out the “Socialist” label at Dems, I honestly believe that Dems should shout out “Fascist” at Repugs. Inform and educate the electorate about the definition of fascism, who the fascists have been in the past, the nature of their tyrrany. The Bush administration was fascious. Educate. Socialism is not on the table, it’s a theoretical distraction, fascism, under Bush, was not theoretical, it was the rule of governance.

    To some, this may seem over the top, but look at the definition, look at the nine memos, look at every Repub apoligizing to Rush, look at the march to invade Iraq and anyone who disputed the policy was villified, look at the attorney general scandal . . . all actions fit comfortably within the definition of “fascist.”


  103. kcdrew says:

    Hanshiro,

    You get it, clearly–

    “Stamp out for-profit health care. It is a crime against all humanity and with the US rated #37 in health care, it’s a crime against America.”

    Most Americans don’t know or understand that that’s what we need to do–what the rest of the world has done–and that’s take for-profit out of health care. We need to stop worshiping big money, rich people, doctors and corporations and make health care a right, not a privilege. But that’s what we’re fighting. And as long as the people don’t care or understand–or as long as the people keep spewing corporate-speak about keeping in profits so we get the benefits of research (utter nonsense), we won’t progress and we’ll get stuck with this crappy, “good health for rich people only” system we’ve got.

    Mo Rage
    http://www.moravings.blogspot.com


  104. SnoBird says:

    Blackwater can rebrand itself Xe, and the GOP can brand itself Fiscal Conservative Party, but in reality, Xe will always be Blackwater, and the GOP is fascism rebranded.


  105. SnoBird says:

    kcdrew,

    You had me until “And as long as the people don’t care or understand–or as long as the people keep spewing corporate-speak about keeping in profits so we get the benefits of research (utter nonsense)”

    People care, people understand . . . do not villify the victims, who care and understand, who are on the phones for hours daily . . .


  106. SnoBird says:

    kcdrew,

    Lose the use of your arms and legs, have no health insurance . . then talk to me about the “people don’t care or understand . . . [or] the benefits of research. (utter nonsense)”.

    Yeah, a whole lotta nonsense until you can’t use your legs or arms.


  107. dbearton says:

    With nut cases like this leading the RepubliCon Party, they should just go out of existence.


  108. SnoBird says:

    I live ajacent to one of the leading hospitals in the worls in the rehab of people with spinal injuries, of para- and quadrapelegics.

    If science can help them, why would Americans defy science? Any one of the patients could be you, me, our parents, siblings or friends.

    No health insurance. You’re screwed. No funding for medical research, you’re screwed. These patients and doctors are searching for answers. For a bunch of Repugs, in the name of keeping their brand alive, to deprive these folks of hope and answers is just plain wrong.


  109. Zooey says:

    Ummmmm, Rep Bachmann…? Obama is the President now, soooo that thwarting him from gaining a power base thing — it’s too late.

    Run along now…


  110. bgfsh says:

    It’s this idiotic thinking and leadership coupled with a completely outdated set of concerns that keeps people like me from doing ANYTHING but being entertained by the Republicans. And I’m a Republican. I just don’t vote that way since the crazies hijacked the party. And boy, the crazies came out of the woodwork the past year. The conservative Republicans need to be voted out of office at every opportunity. They are looking at the world through 100 year old glasses. Out of touch in every way.


  111. mcshemp says:

    If you want to look at economic history over the last 100 years. I call it punctuated equilibrium.

    She doesn’t seem to know what the phrase ‘punctuated equilibrium’ means. No surprise there, but I wonder where she heard it. I can’t see her as a big Stephen J. Gould reader.


  112. SnoBird says:

    What does “punctuated equilibrium” mean?


  113. SnoBird says:

    While we’re at it . . . what is all of this business about Vitter and diapers?


  114. SnoBird says:

    Oh yes, and lots of chatter about oranges. What’s that all about?


  115. wiley says:

    This is why it was so important for Republicans to spin the nation as centrist, otherwise they would be left with President Obama is liberal and so is a majority of Americans. What do we do? Our base hates change? We’re trapped!!! AAAAAAAHHHH.


  116. AlexLawyer says:

    Hooray Michelle! You be da woman!


  117. Bad Eye says:

    Great screen capture of Bachmann above, from the Repub Convention. I remember watching her “speech” during which she’d say a few lines and then pause for effect with a stupid smile on her face, looking over the crowd waiting for applause that never came.

    Anway…I bet she didn’t worry her little self when Bush and Rove were trying their very best to solidify Republican control in all three branches of government for generations to come. I clearly recall a USA Today article that described Bush’s plans to “reform” Social Security by privitizing it and the reasoning behind it; it would show the American people that the Republicans had the new ideas and the Democrats didn’t, thus the public would rally to them and keep them in power for years to come.


  118. Robt says:

    I realize I might be wasting my words here on Bachman. Yet, would it be to much to ask her district voters to hold her responsible since she shows NO sign of responsible work on behalf of the United States and her state’s district and her state.

    Is it too much to aks any of these noise makers to work?


  119. Lora says:

    Thanks, DRxJ, for giving me my second laugh of the day. (My first one concerned a personal issue that would take too much space to explain here.)
    But what’s with Michelle’s sleeveless dress? Haven’t the reichwing nitpickers been finding fault lately with a similarly named First Lady’s tendency to go sleeveless?

    DRxJ Says:
    Michelle Bachmann. Just a female version of Ann Coulter.


  120. pebrooks says:

    When I read such things as there are people that wish Obama to fail over what is good for Americans, and these people identify themselves. Have they no decency, concious or empathy? Are they actually this obtuse, uncaring and “mean-spirited”? They are simply haters; disgusting non-entities that rile the dittoheads to a rabid frenzy. Bachmann represents a very wealthy Republican section in Minnesota. She is a source of shame-sort of a Jesse Ventura, but much dumber. And she is known for sticking her foot in her mouth. Remember how she wouldn’t let go of Bush’s arm and tried to “french” kiss him? I am really tired tonight and can not go on with this. It is so shameful, so ugly and mean-spirited that it is beyond me; I do not-nor care to, understand.


  121. SnoBird says:

    Since noone answered my question, I Wiki’ed it myself. How the hell did Bachmann come up with this term which has absolutely zero bearing on her point (to say she has a point is being generous). Still here goes (if you meander through the entire definition, you will remain mind-boggled, why this loon invoked it – sounds smart???):

    Punctuated equilibrium is a theory in evolutionary biology which states that most sexually reproducing species experience little change for most of their geological history, and that when phenotypic evolution does occur, it is localized in rare, rapid events of branching speciation


  122. SnoBird says:

    Still no answers on the Vitter/diaper connection or the whole orange issue.


  123. SnoBird says:

    Humm it.

    Punctuated equalibrium . . . TODAY!

    Yes, Neil could certainly have worked it in.

    “I’m coming to America, I’m coming to America . . punctuated equilibrium . . Today . . . ”

    It totally works. Thank you Ms. Bachmann, without you, this never would have happened ;>)


  124. Angellight says:

    Rush Limbaugh said the same thing… that Pres. Obama could wipe the Republican party out for good if they allow him to push his agenda through!

    The United States Is In Deep Doodoo!

    The following article was first written in 1998.

    ——————————————————————————–

    Imagine for a moment that someone inherits a farm. Let’s say that the farm has good topsoil, a good well, good breeding stock, good seed, and excellent farm equipment in good repair. Prior to passing into the control of the present owner the farm did a good business selling vegetables, meat, and dairy products to the local market, and it made a small profit. But let us suppose for a moment that the present owner of the farm doesn’t understand farming, or isn’t even really interested in learning. The present owner has no objection to standing around looking good, so he stays at the farm, standing in front of it, looking good to passers by. Of course, the bills still come in, so our farmer puts them on his credit card. When that bill comes due he uses another credit card, Then another. Pretty soon the interest payments alone are higher than his bills and the banks get nervous and call him. No problem. Our farmer sells the tractor, takes the money around to the various credit cards, the food store, the utilities, and pays off all his bills. Then he stands around in front of the farm looking good to passers-by, the lord of his domain.
    Well, the bills still come in. Again the credit cards get loaded up. So, this time our farmer sells the harvester. Then later on, the cattle, then the chickens, then the seeds, then he leases the well to his neighbor and finally sells the top soil from his farm to another farm down the road whose soil is getting tired. The cash is taken around to the various creditors, the food store, the utilities, etc.

    Now at this point, our farmer thinks everything is okay. The bills are paid, he has a little cash in his pocket, and everything is fine.

    Of course, you know better. The farm simply does not exist any more; it’s just an empty lot with a few buildings, and soon they will be gone as well. The path from the farmer’s present condition to seizure of the property for unpaid taxes is a foregone conclusion, even if the farmer doesn’t look far enough ahead to see it.

    Poor, dumb, stupid farmer.

    That farmer is our government, and our business leaders.

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ARTICLE2/doodoo.html?q=ARTICLE2/doodoo.html

    (I would state that we have finally found our Ruby Slippers, exposed the Wizards of Oz and are wisely getting off the Yellow Brick Road!)


  125. bavb says:

    DRxJ Says:
    Michelle Bachmann. Just a female version of Ann Coulter.

    Excellent!!!!!


  126. pastcaring says:

    My spidey sense is a tinglin’; it tells me a major fall is coming for these wack-ass Repiglicans.


  127. LizCoro says:

    ROFLAMO, You be da man . .

    Yeah, Michelle, we all know how many ‘negro’ friends you have!

    Why is the woman given a voice, what’d she win by 3 votes??

    Go away you stoooopid woman!!!


  128. marlow says:

    Ya had your chance, crazy-ass-beeotch. Six years of repube domination of all three branches of government to create a strong, successful nation. And you all flew it into the ground. So just STFU while the grownups try to piece it back together.


  129. gturck says:

    Limbaugh sounds more and more like the Sen. McCarthy I remember from the 50’s and he has the same sort of know-nothing ambitious hangers-on. Bachman is one of the latter for Limbo; ambitious – know nothing – and really unAmerican.


  130. Hoodathunk says:

    “We have to stop this Democratic power grab otherwise I’ll have to go back to Minnesota and see if I can get my job back selling nightcrawlers in Lake Woebegone. And worms are icky.”



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