What losing 4.4 million jobs over 14 months looks like.
By on Mar 7th, 2009 at 10:16 am
What losing 4.4 million jobs over 14 months looks like.
In February, employers cut 651,000 jobs , and the national unemployment rate soared to 8.1 percent — the worst since December 1983. The Gavel provides a graph comparing recent job losses to the 1990-1991 and 2001 recessions, showing just how dire the economic situation is today:
By comparison, we lost a total of 1.6 million jobs in the 1990-1991 recession, before the economy began turning around and jobs began increasing; and we lost a total of 2.7 million jobs in the 2001 recession, before the economy began turning around and jobs began increasing.
“Over the last 14 months, the economy has lost a total of 4.4 million jobs – and continuing job losses in the next few months are predicted.”
Update The New York Times also provides a chart.
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We’re now in a minor Depression. Thanks Bush Regime!
March 7th, 2009 at 10:22 amThat also means “save or grow 3.5 to 4 million jobs” won’t get us back to even. Expect more stimulus.
March 7th, 2009 at 10:26 amGood Morning Unbelievable, good to read you here..In my little area it has been a depression with inflation on necessary good’s for over a year, granted it has gotten a little worse the past couple of month’s with more rising cost’s and people looking for a place to live but still the same as this time last year…..Had 3 people looking for an RV spot yesterday…In 12 year’s I have not seen this during the winter month’s,…Happy posting …Blessings
March 7th, 2009 at 10:33 amThe president didn’t promise to “get us back to even.”
It shouldn’t surprise anyone if we hear the right move the goal posts and claim Obama broke his promise by not getting back the total number of jobs lost in this Bush II Recession 2. He didn’t promise to do that. If he fails to get back the 3.5 to 4 million jobs he promised, then he can be criticized.
March 7th, 2009 at 10:33 amGood Day Wayne, all of us with 2 brain cell’s to rub together know none of this is Obama’s fault, would bet the troll’s don’t think the same…They are so far off their rail’s they will probably claim Clinton caused it, bush was absent and it’s a continued carry over from that….Blessings
March 7th, 2009 at 10:39 amIt is the beginning of a depression and Paul Krugman is right. President Obama is being too timid with government spending. The stimulus should have been one half bigger than it was.
Also, in whose interest is Timothy Geithner acting by recommending more bank bailouts and refusing to nationalize the largest failed banks?
I would like an answer.
March 7th, 2009 at 10:44 amWitch1 Says: Had 3 people looking for an RV spot yesterday…In 12 year’s I have not seen this during the winter month’s,…
Good to see you too! There’s definitely a strain on people’s wallets that is obvious wherever you go. Sad what Reaganomics has done to our nation… And yet there are people who still refuse to bury the old guys corpse.
March 7th, 2009 at 10:49 amWayne, where did I said President Obama promised to get us back to even? It was an observation on the size of the problem and likely response, which could be Congressional.
March 7th, 2009 at 10:53 amstewarjt Says: Paul Krugman is right. President Obama is being too timid with government spending.
I’m a fan of Krugman, but I don’t think he understands that Obama has to deal with Republicans – like it or not.
My guess is that he plans another stimulus bill after we start seeing the positive results of this one. My paycheck on Friday was $18 more than normal. It might not be much, but it definitely helps, and psychologically, it did what it was supposed to do…
March 7th, 2009 at 10:53 amWhere did you say he didn’t you sneaky troll. Goalposts on wheels?
March 7th, 2009 at 10:56 amWhat drives me CRAZY is that NOW the republicans are calling for a spending freeze….A SPENDING FREEZE
I watched last night as republican jerk after republican jerk stood there on the floor of Congress arrogantly DEMANDING that the Federal Government stop spending money and threatening to fillibuster the budget!!!!
Reid and Pelosi – both have to call their bluff Let them stand there in front of the American people and spew their putrid hot air for days and days.
I bet NONE of them will have the courage to participate in a true fillibuster.
REPUBLICANS ARE TERRORISTS WHO THREATEN THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE!
March 7th, 2009 at 10:58 amSpot on point Unbelievable…….Say, I have an off topic question for all ya all…When did TP start up.? I can’t remember….Blessings
March 7th, 2009 at 10:58 amground.
March 7th, 2009 at 10:59 amAnd the repugs, with the help of the mainstream media, are going to do everything they can to blame this on dems.
These are the same lying liars that told us how “great” the economy was doing under dur chimpfurher – a lie in the lead up to the stolen election of 2004.
Good post, important issue – we cannot let the mainstream media succeed in blaming the failures of 8 years of their economic policies (really nothing more than wholesale theft from the federal treasury).
It will be even more important to educate the public on how the mainstream media fails us – after all – this is how the actually “catapult the propaganda.”
March 7th, 2009 at 10:59 amObama is being asked to do the impossible – cleaning the steamping piles of sh!t left in the White House by its former occupant is more than enough for one man to tackle, but Obama must deal with the intransigent Repugniscum – and a few DINOs who seem to have trouble seeing clearly.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:00 amLook for the repugs to criticize him for not performing miracles even as they sat by and watched Bush (who loves to use machinery) pile drive us farther into a hole in the fround.
posts are mixed up. — #15 should end with ground.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:00 amFred’s back to posting on the motivations of other posters. The topic is jobs.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:03 amWitch1 – Not sure exactly – but sometime in the 2000’s
Marie – what did you think of Religulous?
March 7th, 2009 at 11:03 amBush: “History will decide if I was a good president”. Amazing how little you see of him. He is like a kid that broke something, then runs away before anyone discovers he did it.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:04 amThanks, Republicans. We couldn’t have done it without you.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:05 amRepublicans don’t care about people. They want to continue their drive toward the lowest global common denominator on taxes and worker pay/benefits. Only it doesn’t apply to them or their rich supporters who need government money.
That’s the way they want to use our economic crisis. More money for their friends and more misery for the common folk.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:05 amA more appropriate comparison on the graph would be the recession in the early 80s. If we’re going to say it’s the worst since then, we should compare it (along side an extrapolation of what the recovery in the 80s looked like)
March 7th, 2009 at 11:06 amstateofthedivision Says: Fred’s back to posting on the motivations of other posters. The topic is jobs.
No, Fred called you on yor b.s. He was right. You infered that Obama did promise to get us fully out of the hole in your initial post. Stop insulting our intelligence.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:06 amUnbe:
I loved Religulous! I loaned it to my friend to see also and he felt the same. I took your advice to watch all the outtakes, deleted scenes, etc. Thanks. :)
Witch1, If I had to place a bet, I would say that TP started sometime in 2002. I started reading the Center for American Progress daily, and it was through them that I was an early member of TP.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:07 amGreat Lady, TP started in January, 2005.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:08 amUnbelievable, I compared the size of the problem to plans enacted. Then I made a comment. Expect more stimulus.
Did someone hand out the crazy pills today?
March 7th, 2009 at 11:08 amWhat do you call this sod?
March 7th, 2009 at 11:11 amunbelievable Says:
My paycheck on Friday was $18 more than normal. It might not be much, but it definitely helps, and psychologically, it did what it was supposed to do…
My heart goes out to President Obama every time I think of the complexity of this problem. I work in a newsroom. Our company has implemented pay cuts of up to 10% starting next week. They are also laying off 500 employees on March 27th. So the “extra” stimulus tax cuts wont be felt by anyone in our company.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:11 amstateofthedivision – the repug party and the Whig party from which it emerged, has always been about looting the federal treasury for a few insiders.
They believe in bad government because this guarantees a sideshow to distract from the thieving.
They need issues to rally ignorant masses. In the past 8 years, they use these issues to create the lie of a “highly energized base” which allows them to justify stolen elections.
The repugs view the government as a cash cow for a few insiders to exploit while they use morons like chimpy to provide a public face for the lies they promote.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:11 amIs it a killer day everywhere this day?
March 7th, 2009 at 11:14 amI bet our elected leaders are comparing the size of the problem, which is expected to continue to grow, with solutions enacted to date. I know Paul Krugman is.
They’re likely working on solutions, which hopefully won’t include giving billions of taxpayer dollars to companies shedding jobs. Bush and Paulson excelled at that.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:15 amMarie Says: I loved Religulous! I loaned it to my friend to see also and he felt the same. I took your advice to watch all the outtakes, deleted scenes, etc. Thanks. :)
Have you read Sam Harris’s ‘Letter to a Christian Nation’? I thought it was along the same lines as Religulous. Wish religious hypocrites would watch Maher’s movie. It probably wouldn’t change anything, but perhaps it might get them to shut up occasionally ;)
March 7th, 2009 at 11:16 amkrystalview Says: My heart goes out to President Obama every time I think of the complexity of this problem. I work in a newsroom. Our company has implemented pay cuts of up to 10% starting next week. They are also laying off 500 employees on March 27th. So the “extra” stimulus tax cuts wont be felt by anyone in our company.
Sorry to hear that.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:18 amThank You, Lady Z, I kept thinking it started around the time I was given my commercial Mac which would be a couple year’s earlier…Thank you also Unbelievable and Marie…Do know many of us have been around the site off and on since then..
What ever happened to Exley? Now there was a decent troll of quality…Realy..LOL .Blessings
March 7th, 2009 at 11:19 amDepression or recession?
I did a little reading last night about the causes of the Great Depression. Most all agree that the depression was caused by stock market crash of 29/30 followed by bank failure followed by failure to purchase. There were various other reasons thrown in but these 3 were listed as the initial causes in almost every article Sound familiar?
March 7th, 2009 at 11:21 amBugger off alert #36…
March 7th, 2009 at 11:28 amIs there ANYONE who can now still believe the Pukes DIDN’T throw the ‘election?’
March 7th, 2009 at 11:29 amHi billitsrus2
March 7th, 2009 at 11:31 amHow long did it take to think up that stupid shit? Just wondering. Want me to make you look like a fool for a few hours?
tokin librul Says:
Is there ANYONE who can now still believe the Pukes DIDN’T throw the ‘election?’
March 7th, 2009 at 11:29 am
The first clue was McCain being allowed to run, and then Palin. Yeeks.
I think they realize now that they miscalculated Obama’s strength and popularity, so they had to play the “Rush card.” I’m so happy they did. :-D
March 7th, 2009 at 11:32 amIt’s not a recession, it’s a depression, and I think it is permanent, the unemployment rate is actually around 16 to 18% and will get much worst very soon.
When 700 people show up for a janitors job paying 12 dollars an hour, you know it is very, very bad and is going to get much, much worse.
No amount of government spending is going to fix this at this point.
George Bush and the republicans have totally destroyed this country.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:33 amGood morning Fred and Dear dbadass, so nice to read you here….Go for it please..Blessings
March 7th, 2009 at 11:34 ambullitsrus2 Says:
right now is exactly what he has planned to do…bringing this country to it’s knees.
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You trolls… always fantasizing about being on your knees in front of someone powerful. Can’t you ever leave your sex lives out of the conversation?
March 7th, 2009 at 11:35 amdbadass Says:
Hi billitsrus2
How long did it take to think up that stupid shit? Just wondering. Want me to make you look like a fool for a few hours?
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he can do that all by himself db.
same with making love.
he does it all by himself.
**
March 7th, 2009 at 11:36 ambullitsrus2 Says:
….our country is tanking…
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Then perhaps we should run up a “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED” banner… say… isn’t there an old one lying around here somewhere?
March 7th, 2009 at 11:36 amget off the inertnet and actually look whats going on
March 7th, 2009 at 11:38 am—-
Well around here the skies are clear the sun is out the birds are singing the snow is melting and the temps are in the 50’s. All is well in my world.
Funny observation but I think they would have loved to keep power. They didn’t have a chance after the economy faultered inevitably, no matter who they ran.
It does look like they are glad to be out from under the responsibility of fixing what they destroyed though, doesn’t it?
March 7th, 2009 at 11:38 amZooey Says:
tokin librul Says:
Is there ANYONE who can now still believe the Pukes DIDN’T throw the ‘election?’
March 7th, 2009 at 11:29 am
The first clue was McCain being allowed to run, and then Palin. Yeeks.
It’s certainly a plausible theory, and one that had been floated well before the election–let the Democrats have the White House and when they can’t dig out of the enormous sh!thole the Republicans had created, the Democrats will end up with all the blame.
But . . . take a look at the other options the Republicans had for candidates. Could any of them have done better than John and Sarah? They all sucked, and there was simply no one out on the Republican horizon that would have been any better.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:39 ambullitsrus2 blows goats.
Plus your english skills suck…home school much?
March 7th, 2009 at 11:39 amSomebody here seems to be quite bitter about the way BotchCo ended up…
Just sayin’…
March 7th, 2009 at 11:40 ambullitsrus2 Says:
and if i were you i get out there and scrape those obama/biden bumper stickers off your car…just watched a story about increasing vandalism against cars with them on
Most of us don’t live in Oklahoma, fool.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:40 amand if i were you i get out there and scrape those obama/biden bumper stickers off your car…just watched a story about increasing vandalism against cars with them on
— With all repsect due, you are getting so tired with this one trick pony thing. I am getting sort of bored. Any chance you might want to discusss anything?
March 7th, 2009 at 11:40 amThe recession of the 1980s was a really bad one, and things looked pretty Grim and Hopeless then too.
Things got a little Better, but the economy sputtered right thru the Bush I Presidency.
Then an interesting thing happened in obscure little garages in California and other places.
Next thing ya know, terms like www, software, mouse, etc. became part of the Vocabulary…and by the time Clinton got elected, the Economy came roaring back….resulting in a PC in just about every American Home And Business…and resulting in Blogs like this one.
The same thing can happen with Green Energy. What would the economic Impact be… of Cheap, Unlimited, Environmentally Safe Energy?
Yes we Can.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:42 amNice to read you TROS, think you should get the award for #45…Tap. Tap.Tap the sound of all the Craig follower’s signaling each other in the men’s room’s at the local air port’s..Call it, closeted troll’s gathering…Blessings
March 7th, 2009 at 11:43 amHi Witch1, haven’t seen you around much lately. Hope all is well with you. We are in a terrible mess but at least we finally have some people who are actually addressing the crisis.
peace.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:43 amit will get worse then it will get better. so we got to stay on right track which is support obama.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:43 amgummitch Says:
But . . . take a look at the other options the Republicans had for candidates. Could any of them have done better than John and Sarah? They all sucked, and there was simply no one out on the Republican horizon that would have been any better.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:39 am
That just shows how determined they were to throw the thing.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:43 am:-D
who could have possibly done any better for the GOP? The cupboard is bare. There is nobody. And that’s quite possibly because the last administration destroyed any of the “good” qualities the republicans hold dear.
The GOP will be in the wilderness for years to come. It only took them 8 years to bring it down. Too bad they took the country down with them.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:44 amAnd what pray tell did the Bush Regime do to create jobs and work to fix the financial/housing sectors? Oh wait. *crickets chirping* That’s right. They did nothing but for some reason the neocons of the American Taliban want to blame President Obama for what George Bush didn’t do! Spit.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:44 amLooks like someone is awake at TP. Thanks!
March 7th, 2009 at 11:44 amI don’t think it was planned to throw the election. They didn’t have anything. Bush drained the pool.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:45 amWhy do my spidey senses always go off when youtube appears? I really don’t understand that and I mean no disrespect to youtube…
March 7th, 2009 at 11:45 amFlagging works!!
March 7th, 2009 at 11:46 amDo you have any evidence bull-tits-2? Didn’t think so…
March 7th, 2009 at 11:46 amhellinabucket Says:
I don’t think it was planned to throw the election. They didn’t have anything. Bush drained the pool.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:45 am
I really don’t think they did either, hellina. Which makes the Republicans look even more sad, doesn’t it? :-D
March 7th, 2009 at 11:47 amIt does make them look sad Zooey. It makes me wonder how piss poor the “permanent republican majority” was planned out. They are having problems at the top with Steele all the way down to the bottom with local seats. This could very well be the death of the GOP.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:52 amhellinabucket Says:
This could very well be the death of the GOP.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:52 am
I’d consider that a lovely wedding gift for me and joe cantwell. ;)
March 7th, 2009 at 11:55 amWhy would those who “Planned the Iraq War” be any better at Planning out the “permanent republican majority”???
These people DO NOT want the Government to Succeed. They are Blinded by Ideology and Wishfull thinking.
Lets see what happens when the People Now in Power actually BELIEVE in Good Government, and Want it to succeed.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:58 amBack at ya Fred….Having a good day, hope you are as well…Not posting as much as in the past..Lot’s of reading and other project’s in the work’s…With the return of good weather comes the out side tree hugging I so dearly love…
Good post’s hellinabucket and another funny from Unbelievable…bull=tits..LOL.Thank’s for that one….Blessings
March 7th, 2009 at 11:58 amWell said Badger.
thanks Witch1. I have enjoyed so many posts here.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:03 pmWitch1 and Zooey — I am surprised that TP is that young. Although 2005 is 4 years ago!! Time flies.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:07 pmSome of us have been around since the beginning — I miss some of the old regulars too.
Some of the trolls were too meanspirited and ugly – I don’t miss them. But others were reasonable and made good arguments.
Zooey Says:
Flagging works!!
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go get ‘em, zoo!
:)
March 7th, 2009 at 12:11 pmGee, I was gone for a while, and I came back to find that a troll dropped by and has already been shooed away!
March 7th, 2009 at 12:12 pmdbadass Says:
Is it a killer day everywhere this day?
If Zooey is at home, she can tell you we are having a day whose bleakness is the signature of N. Idaho in March. Cold, iron gray sky, piles of rotten, dirty snow that refuses to melt away, nothing green that isn’t coniferous…if the state of the GOP could be expressed in weather terms, this would be it.
Witch1, I too found myself wondering what happened to Exley. I used to love watching him joust with Ralph, Gummitch and Toasterhead. One of those worthies accused me of being an Exley sock puppet when I joined TP…took a while to figure out what they meant.
The guy I really miss is Tripmaster Monkey. Sure, he’s slice and dice me on a regular basis, but damn he was whip smart.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:18 pmMarie, do you remember MA, {RIGHT} and roger=roger? They fit the mean spirited to a T…
A dreadfull amount of thing’s happened to our country because of the bush regime during the period of 2005 until now..Hope it can be reversed with this administration…..Blessings
March 7th, 2009 at 12:19 pmMighty aphrodite, now that’s a blast from the past. Wonder whatever happened to that one.
joe six pack was always good smacking down someone.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:24 pmstateofthedivision Says:
Have you seen a mental health specialist lately. You are sounding totally schizophrenic.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:34 pmKetol, I liked Exley, bet he did not know that…Good baseball jargin and polatic’s with out the mean spirit..
There was a couple very early on, not troll’s…Susan was the girl’s name, can’t remember the guy’s..Avid Peace activest’s that were keeping us up to date on all the march’s around the country..They left the site and hit the street’s, I think of them often..
Much has changed for the better with TP as well..I was banned twice for standing up for Lebanon and had to beg and plead to get back on site…Troll’s were rarely erased no matter what and it seemed like a reich winged site when coulter or the gay issue was brought up…Yep! For the most part the site has improved greatly….Happy posting all…I take my leave for awhile….P.B. & J
March 7th, 2009 at 12:39 pmKeltoi at Night Says:
dbadass Says:
Is it a killer day everywhere this day?
If Zooey is at home, she can tell you we are having a day whose bleakness is the signature of N. Idaho in March. Cold, iron gray sky, piles of rotten, dirty snow that refuses to melt away, nothing green that isn’t coniferous…if the state of the GOP could be expressed in weather terms, this would be it.
Not quite that bad here in Portland, but it’s still crap. Snow on the valley floor tomorrow! It’s MARCH, damnit! Yes, the daffodils are out and blooming, the flowering trees are budding out, but what’s with temperatures below freezing?
If I could write, I’d write a letter to my congressman, if he could only read.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:42 pmunbe
March 7th, 2009 at 12:42 pmI have several books on the shelf, but I don’t think I have that one by Sam Harris.
youtube Says:
it will get worse then it will get better. so we got to stay on right track which is support obama.
And stop slamming him for things you imagine he might do some time in the future.
That’s what really gets me. I can take the right slamming him for things they think he will do, but when it comes from the left, it really pisses me off.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:44 pmWitch1,
March 7th, 2009 at 12:46 pmThose are the ones – yes – meanspirited and ugly.
Hey folks, I’m reading a great book and highly recommend it. It’s called “The Creature from Jekyll Island”.
It reads like a mystery, but it is all true. It’s the story of how the Federal Reserve was formed, where our money comes from and where it goes. It is an enlightening read. The book is out of print so it’s a little hard to find. But finding it is well worth your time and effort.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:47 pmWitch1 Says:
For the most part the site has improved greatly….Happy posting all…I take my leave for awhile….P.B. & J
I will agree with that the day they ban JK. For the life of me I don’t understand why they ban other offensive posters, but allow JK to come here day after day demeaning President Obama, calling him “brotha” and other racist names.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:50 pmBilbo, you are so right.
When people, particularly liberals, start blaming Obama for what they THINK he will do is really ticks me off.
Can’t we wait to see what he DOES before we hit him in the knees?
We’ve said from the start, that no one is going to do everything we want — hell I disappoint myself sometimes too, and I’m on my side! — Obama is by far the best man at the helm of this ship of state in these troubling times. He will falter, and make some wrong moves, no doubt, but he will continue to steer this ship in the right direction.
Everyone is more than ready to see the light at the end of this tunnel, but that is probably a long way down the track. Let’s not let our impatience take over the vision.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:51 pmMarie Says:
Bilbo, you are so right.
When people, particularly liberals, start blaming Obama for what they THINK he will do is really ticks me off.
Thanks for your support Marie. Fred, Unbelievable and I were out in the wilderness there for a while when we were calling SOD on his BS. I find it puzzling why so many people here kept quiet and didn’t say anything for the longest time. Or why some people (like Hiroshito) actually joined in and agreed with him.
March 7th, 2009 at 12:56 pmAll you have to do to put things in perspective is to think…
President Mccain
Vice President Palin
Secretary of Treasury Phil Graham
Secretary of State Joe Lieberman
Puts things in perspective, doesn’t it ?
March 7th, 2009 at 12:56 pmThis graph really needs to be presented in percentage terms before it means anything. Each job-loss period started with a larger number of jobs, so naturally each successive recession is going to be worse from a raw number standpoint. Here’s a better discussion of this:
http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/03/more-on-job-losses-comparing-recessions.html
March 7th, 2009 at 12:58 pmkrystalview Says:
All you have to do to put things in perspective is to think…
President Mccain
Vice President Palin
Secretary of Treasury Phil Graham
Secretary of State Joe Lieberman
Puts things in perspective, doesn’t it ?
March 7th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
***SHUDDER***
March 7th, 2009 at 1:03 pmkrystalview Says:
All you have to do to put things in perspective is to think…
President Mccain
Vice President Palin
Secretary of Treasury Phil Graham
Secretary of State Joe Lieberman
Puts things in perspective, doesn’t it ?
My breakfast is coming back up. . .
March 7th, 2009 at 1:05 pmNot the slightest hint of an inflection in that green line; expect it to get steeper. Nicely played, chimpy. Where would the nation be without you? Outside my window, a family across the street is selling their furniture–on the street. You’re going to have to wade in deeper, Barack.
March 7th, 2009 at 1:13 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
It would be one thing if they blamed him for things he’s done. But they guess what he’s going to do and blame him in advance. Very annoying.
March 7th, 2009 at 1:19 pmSorry if my posting caused stomach illnesses LOL
March 7th, 2009 at 1:19 pmSometimes the “alternative” brings reality into focus.
If we’re going with trolls from the past, I thought Bigfoot (the one who sold meat from his truck in New Mexico) could have been the dumbest one ever. Quite a feat I know, or in his case feet.
As for the economy, I work in NYC in the Financial District. It really is ugly, sort of like dead man walking to and from the subway each day. Even the companies who aren’t responsible for dragging down the economy and are not taking taxpayer money like mine are in a real world of hurt. My area, 40% of the staff was laid off. It’s just sad and it’s not looking to get better anytime soon. Though I must say, still see a lot of people coming and going out of AIG’s headquarters, I really don’t like them.
March 7th, 2009 at 1:21 pmThis Economic crisis will bring into CLEAR FOCUS the TATTERED nature of America’s Safety Net.
It’s hard to DO something about a problem, until we recognize that we HAVE one.
March 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pmblue state bob Says:
If we’re going with trolls from the past, I thought Bigfoot (the one who sold meat from his truck in New Mexico) could have been the dumbest one ever. Quite a feat I know, or in his case feet.
Who was the gun-nut, about 4 years ago? Oh, yeah; IRI. He was always good for a crank-and-NRA fueled blowout.
Exley was also good for chuckles, with his faux-professorial air, which deflated to “I know you are, but what am I?” ’s after about five posts.
March 7th, 2009 at 1:28 pmbarfly, you’re discounting the stupidity of the short lived trolls like Joker giving the dumbest award out so casually. And of course Daryll has got to be given consideration as dumbest ever. So many idiots, so little time.
March 7th, 2009 at 1:35 pmCaption Contest:
Bush Unveils New Legacy Waterslide, To Boost Attendance At
March 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pmPresidental Library: Suddenly, you’re in a free-fall…
And of course Daryll has got to be given consideration as dumbest ever. So many idiots, so little time.
Carrying his pitiful “Rapture Ready” sign everywhere he goes, like a tortured cry to the heavens: I’m ready NOW Lord…
March 7th, 2009 at 1:38 pmBack for a moment..tired of sitting long hour’s like I use to…Skiff of snow, cold and power outages today…
You are correct Bilbo about jk and many thing’s…I for one have not been around much to post here, been at The Zoo more and sadly AWOL in general..The long hour’s of posting and research are pretty much over for me..Back ache’s abound..
Sorry if I let you down by not posting my thought’s but for some of us we have done all we can do and now must just skip over now and then…
I won’t be critical of much at this point, in a wait and see pattern, I am concerned though and sometime’s I wonder if the change everyone saught may be to late because of all the damage bull shit bush and his bunch did and continue to do….P.B.& J
March 7th, 2009 at 1:44 pmas long as we’re reminiscing, who recalls O.Bigfoot? He was about as scrofulous an old dittohead as they come. Good fun. IRI I recall, too – noxious, that one. And then there was old Jason M. Hendler – enthusiastic he was, and oh-so poorly informed, but he’d at least try to hold some ground w/out running.
they’re all just so tee-jus, then and now.
good times.
March 7th, 2009 at 1:48 pmbarfly Says:
And of course Daryll has got to be given consideration as dumbest ever. So many idiots, so little time.
Carrying his pitiful “Rapture Ready” sign everywhere he goes, like a tortured cry to the heavens: I’m ready NOW Lord…
Daryll must be pretty conflicted these days. As eager as he claims to be for the Rapture, he’s also got a long-term plan to be a county commissioner. What if the Rapture happens the day before the election?
March 7th, 2009 at 1:51 pmas of yesterday, add me to the ranks of “LET-GO JOES”!
March 7th, 2009 at 2:00 pmSo sorry, Grover. Truth is, many more of us might be in the same boat by the end of this month. Hang in.
March 7th, 2009 at 2:12 pmtombaker Says:
as long as we’re reminiscing, who recalls O.Bigfoot? He was about as scrofulous an old dittohead as they come. Good fun.
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Oh, Lordy… I remember O Bigfoot. Talk about obnoxious… I recall hearing he got caught w/in 500 feet of an elementary school and had his parole revoked.
March 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pmZooey Says:
Secretary of State Joe Lieberman
Puts things in perspective, doesn’t it ?
March 7th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
***SHUDDER***
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… the bombs buuuuuuursting in air… over and over and over again…
March 7th, 2009 at 2:27 pmApparently, we aren’t past the blame stage. This struggle of power is sickening. I have yet to hear anyone from the Republican side give a good plan. Seems like the only person working in our government is our President.
March 7th, 2009 at 4:00 pm“…the national unemployment rate soared to 8.1 percent — the worst since December 1983.”
December 1983 was, of course, nearly two years after Ronald Reagan took over from Carter and raised unemployment, lowered wages and benefits, weakened unions, and exploded the debt.
p.s.: I wish critics of stateofthedivision and hanshiro would really lay off for a while and stop their prejudicial views of what these two say. Stateofthedivision was NOT criticizing Obama he was just pointing out how bad the recession was becoming. And he knows extremely well it was Bush’s fault. I have read quite a bit of stateofthedivision and hanshiro and there is nothing wrong with what they say. I would guess the majority of posters here would agree with them if they didn’t begin reading them with a bias.
March 7th, 2009 at 5:18 pmGood Morning Unbelievable, good to read you here..In my little area it has been a depression with inflation on necessary good’s for over a year, granted it has gotten a little worse the past couple of month’s with more rising cost’s and people looking for a place to live but still the same as this time last year…..Had 3 people looking for an RV spot yesterday…In 12 year’s I have not seen this during the winter month’s,…Happy posting …Blessings
March 7th, 2009 at 5:39 pm