Comments on: ‘Moderate’ Senate Democrats to formally announce formation of Blue Dog-style coalition. http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:13:54 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: nineteen_and_84 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5554308 nineteen_and_84 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:36:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5554308 Well, they haven't done anything yet so I'm going to hold judgment until then. It's getting close to the 2010 elections so the corporate ass kissing should be ramping up very soon. Then we'll take a look see at where we are. It is curious that they would be talking about deficit reduction when revenues have to be falling. They may be trying to change the tax and spend label that Repugs use to describe them. They may have jumped the gun though since most economists say that some deficit spending will be needed. Well, if they derail Obama and his plans with the popular support he has they may not be around long. Well, they haven’t done anything yet so I’m going to hold judgment until then. It’s getting close to the 2010 elections so the corporate ass kissing should be ramping up very soon. Then we’ll take a look see at where we are.

It is curious that they would be talking about deficit reduction when revenues have to be falling. They may be trying to change the tax and spend label that Repugs use to describe them. They may have jumped the gun though since most economists say that some deficit spending will be needed.

Well, if they derail Obama and his plans with the popular support he has they may not be around long.

]]> By: Packeryman http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5546670 Packeryman Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:35:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5546670 The so-called moderate Democrats are really Republicans in Democrat clothes. Their true colors start to show when issues important to the the middle class began to emerge, health care, education, and unions. We had this occur in Texas and the results are disasterous. We have poor education, health care for all(Hightest state of uninsured), wages and benefits are low due to the anti-labor climate(Texas is a right to work "for less" state), and The Citizens Against Law Suit Abuse(insuranced companies) with the Republicans passed very low caps on claims. Great for the insurance industry, screwed the public. Highest home owners insurance rates in the country. All Dems need to help raise enough money to defeat these BLUE DOGS when their terms are up. By using money from all over the nation we can defeat them in each individual election. We have had eight years of deregulation and letting corporate run amok over the people. We can never let it happen again. Look at the conditions of the middle class worker in Texas, we can't afford to return to the Bush era by letting these guys join with the obstructionist Republicans in the senate. The so-called moderate Democrats are really Republicans in Democrat clothes. Their true colors start to show when issues important to the the middle class began to emerge, health care, education, and unions. We had this occur in Texas and the results are disasterous. We have poor education, health care for all(Hightest state of uninsured), wages and benefits are low due to the anti-labor climate(Texas is a right to work “for less” state), and The Citizens Against Law Suit Abuse(insuranced companies) with the Republicans passed very low caps on claims. Great for the insurance industry, screwed the public. Highest home owners insurance rates in the country. All Dems need to help raise enough money to defeat these BLUE DOGS when their terms are up. By using money from all over the nation we can defeat them in each individual election. We have had eight years of deregulation and letting corporate run amok over the people. We can never let it happen again. Look at the conditions of the middle class worker in Texas, we can’t afford to return to the Bush era by letting these guys join with the obstructionist Republicans in the senate.

]]> By: uncletumbleweed http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5545744 uncletumbleweed Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:06:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5545744 http://www.euronext.com/editorial/wide/editorial-43618-EN.html The following two revenue share schemes are in place for Liffe CDS contracts: CDS Reporting Scheme rewards those registered Members who submit CDS transactions to Bclear CDS Clearing Scheme rewards those registered Clearing Members who clear CDS contracts Both schemes allocate a total of 20% of net revenues derived from Liffe CDS contracts. Please refer to London Notice No.3098 for further information. Approved registered members on these schemes: Banca IMI SPA Banco Santander S.A. Bayerische Hypo- und Vereinsbank AG BGC Brokers LP Calyon SA <em>Citigroup Markets Ltd Credit Suisse Securities Europe Ltd </em>Deutsche Bank AG Deutsche Zentral-Genossenschaftsbank Dresdner Bank AG GFI Securities Limited <em>Goldman Sachs International </em> HSBC Bank PLC ICAP Securities Ltd J P Morgan Securities Limited Landesbank Baden-Wurttemberg Liquid Capital Securities <em>Merrill Lynch International </em> MF Global UK Limited Natixis Newedge Group SA Nomura International PLC Rabobank International Royal Bank of Canada Europe Limited Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken AB (publ) Société Générale The Royal Bank of Scotland Tradition Securities And Futures Tullet Prebon (Securities) Limited <em>UBS Clearing & Execution Services Limited UBS Limited </em> (Do you notice the presence of SOME OF THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE RECEIVED MEDIA ATTENTION FOR THEIR PART IN THE CURRENT ECONOMIC $$$#**&! sorry, was I shouting, again?…uncletumbleweed)and are these CDS contracts the mortgages (and deeds) to American homes? sold to "anonymity guaranteed" buyers? Is Citi in a good financial position because this trading began on 3/9/09, with the blessing of the NYSE? the dysfunctional SEC and CFTC? while the White House makes wisecracks about Rush whatever-his-name-is to distract America? Just like Slick Willie did with his scandal while the FMA of 1999 and the CFMA of 2000 were being passed? When the media gets sidetracked by something really stupid...start reading... something is going on! http://www.euronext.com/editorial/wide/editorial-43618-EN.html
The following two revenue share schemes are in place for Liffe CDS contracts:

CDS Reporting Scheme rewards those registered Members who submit CDS transactions to Bclear
CDS Clearing Scheme rewards those registered Clearing Members who clear CDS contracts
Both schemes allocate a total of 20% of net revenues derived from Liffe CDS contracts.
Please refer to London Notice No.3098 for further information.
Approved registered members on these schemes:

Banca IMI SPA
Banco Santander S.A.
Bayerische Hypo- und Vereinsbank AG
BGC Brokers LP
Calyon SA
Citigroup Markets Ltd
Credit Suisse Securities Europe Ltd Deutsche Bank AG
Deutsche Zentral-Genossenschaftsbank
Dresdner Bank AG
GFI Securities Limited
Goldman Sachs International
HSBC Bank PLC
ICAP Securities Ltd
J P Morgan Securities Limited
Landesbank Baden-Wurttemberg
Liquid Capital Securities
Merrill Lynch International
MF Global UK Limited
Natixis
Newedge Group SA
Nomura International PLC
Rabobank International
Royal Bank of Canada Europe Limited
Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken AB (publ)
Société Générale
The Royal Bank of Scotland
Tradition Securities And Futures
Tullet Prebon (Securities) Limited
UBS Clearing & Execution Services Limited
UBS Limited
(Do you notice the presence of SOME OF THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE RECEIVED MEDIA ATTENTION FOR THEIR PART IN THE CURRENT ECONOMIC $$$#**&! sorry, was I shouting, again?…uncletumbleweed)and are these CDS contracts the mortgages (and deeds) to American homes? sold to “anonymity guaranteed” buyers?
Is Citi in a good financial position because this trading began on 3/9/09, with the blessing of the NYSE? the dysfunctional SEC and CFTC? while the White House makes wisecracks about Rush whatever-his-name-is to distract America? Just like Slick Willie did with his scandal while the FMA of 1999 and the CFMA of 2000 were being passed? When the media gets sidetracked by something really stupid…start reading… something is going on!

]]> By: cornhusker http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5545590 cornhusker Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:07:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5545590 These conservative Democrats will triangulate with Senate Republicans and against this (policywise) center left nation http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/11/halpin-teixeria-progressive-study/). We have a lot of work to do in 2010. These conservative Democrats will triangulate with Senate Republicans and against this (policywise) center left nation http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/11/halpin-teixeria-progressive-study/). We have a lot of work to do in 2010.

]]> By: Hoodathunk http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5545251 Hoodathunk Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:27:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5545251 Since 'winning' a seat in Congress is more of an auction than an election, why should anyone be surprised when they vote for the money that funds their campaigns and buys their seat? It is becoming increasingly obvious that about 90% of the elected members of Congress are more concerned with buying their nice cushy job than anything the people who actually cast the vote to put them there. Since ‘winning’ a seat in Congress is more of an auction than an election, why should anyone be surprised when they vote for the money that funds their campaigns and buys their seat? It is becoming increasingly obvious that about 90% of the elected members of Congress are more concerned with buying their nice cushy job than anything the people who actually cast the vote to put them there.

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5545165 shoeless Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:46:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5545165 This has been a problem in Congress for a long time. People used to say that Democrats controlled Congress for 40 years, but probably one third of them were southern blue dogs who were very conservative. So, progressives have never been in control of Congress. We still have a ways to go before that day comes. This has been a problem in Congress for a long time. People used to say that Democrats controlled Congress for 40 years, but probably one third of them were southern blue dogs who were very conservative. So, progressives have never been in control of Congress. We still have a ways to go before that day comes.

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5545156 shoeless Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:43:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5545156 Thanks ralph, but I lied. I do like to brag. Thanks ralph, but I lied. I do like to brag.

]]> By: Wannabekool http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5545118 Wannabekool Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:33:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5545118 Chimpanzees could do better than this gaggle of naysayers who are strangling our country. Rather, I should say the gaggle is taking down the country just as surely as a gaggle brought down the airplane. I think I heard geese are not known for being intelligent. With that I rest my case. Chimpanzees could do better than this gaggle of naysayers who are strangling our country. Rather, I should say the gaggle is taking down the country just as surely as a gaggle brought down the airplane.

I think I heard geese are not known for being intelligent. With that I rest my case.

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5545053 ralph the wonder llama Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:04:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5545053 shoeless, I give you credit for seeing through b-cup immediately. As for Tracist... that I don't find as impressive. He seems pretty transparently trollish to me. Although that might be hindsight talking. shoeless, I give you credit for seeing through b-cup immediately.

As for Tracist… that I don’t find as impressive. He seems pretty transparently trollish to me. Although that might be hindsight talking.

]]> By: maxamillion http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5545040 maxamillion Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:58:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5545040 WE HAVE GOT TO GET RID OF THESE "BLUE DOG" DEMS. THEY WILL, WITH THE FEW REPUBLICANS LEFT IN CONGRESS, DESTROY PRESIDENT OBAMA'S AGENDA. WE HAVE GOT TO GET RID OF THESE “BLUE DOG” DEMS. THEY WILL, WITH THE FEW REPUBLICANS LEFT IN CONGRESS, DESTROY PRESIDENT OBAMA’S AGENDA.

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5545036 shoeless Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:57:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5545036 Speaking of wingnuts, Archie isn't going to tell us how the Democrats forced Bush to release the terrorists, but maybe he will tell us which Democrats made Bush cave. Got any names Archie? Speaking of wingnuts, Archie isn’t going to tell us how the Democrats forced Bush to release the terrorists, but maybe he will tell us which Democrats made Bush cave.

Got any names Archie?

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5545033 shoeless Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:53:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5545033 I don't like to brag, but I saw through backedup almost immediately. The same with Tracist. With both of them, some people tried to tell me they were OK at first, but I can smell a wingnut from a mile away. I don’t like to brag, but I saw through backedup almost immediately. The same with Tracist. With both of them, some people tried to tell me they were OK at first, but I can smell a wingnut from a mile away.

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5544998 ralph the wonder llama Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:35:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5544998 Keltoi, I can see where you'd think my slams are a bit harsh, but I've gone through several threads with b-cup, and it took me a long time to get wise to his games, which are well disguised. For a long time I thought of him much like I think of you; a well-meaning, intelligent conservative willing to debate. It took a lot of convincing to get me to see otherwise, but now I see his little tricks in every thread. Maybe I do suspect motives that sometimes aren't there, maybe he just falls back on bad habits when he feels like he's losing the debate, but I've learned that with b-cup it's best to assume that he's playing a game. Keltoi, I can see where you’d think my slams are a bit harsh, but I’ve gone through several threads with b-cup, and it took me a long time to get wise to his games, which are well disguised. For a long time I thought of him much like I think of you; a well-meaning, intelligent conservative willing to debate. It took a lot of convincing to get me to see otherwise, but now I see his little tricks in every thread.

Maybe I do suspect motives that sometimes aren’t there, maybe he just falls back on bad habits when he feels like he’s losing the debate, but I’ve learned that with b-cup it’s best to assume that he’s playing a game.

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5544987 shoeless Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:28:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5544987 The Democrats wouldn't allow Bush to prosecute the murderous terrorists, so he just released them The Democrats wouldn’t allow Bush to prosecute the murderous terrorists, so he just released them

]]> By: Keltoi http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5544935 Keltoi Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:04:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5544935 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <em>ralph the wonder llama Says: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sadly, Keltoi, I think you’re right. JV team is the best Troll Central can do these days, it seems. b-cup does his best to provide some competition, but he’s only one troll. What he needs is for you to stop being so reasonable and start trolling, dammit!</em> And get Posterized? Not likely. Honestly, I read your slams on the erstwhile Capn Mantastic...at times I think you are a bit harsh, assume the worst motives....I dunno, as a rule I don't defend or even comment on other Trolls, but saying TRoS and rhf are the same person??? Alert Rod Serling, someone. ——————————————————————————–

ralph the wonder llama Says:
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Sadly, Keltoi, I think you’re right. JV team is the best Troll Central can do these days, it seems.

b-cup does his best to provide some competition, but he’s only one troll.

What he needs is for you to stop being so reasonable and start trolling, dammit!

And get Posterized? Not likely.

Honestly, I read your slams on the erstwhile Capn Mantastic…at times I think you are a bit harsh, assume the worst motives….I dunno, as a rule I don’t defend or even comment on other Trolls, but saying TRoS and rhf are the same person??? Alert Rod Serling, someone.

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5544914 shoeless Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:54:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5544914 <blockquote>Chocolate Jesus Says: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <em>Archie B Says: > They ARE ruthless murders aka terrorists > caught on the battle field with guns > are bombs engaged in war activity.</em> Uhm…genius..according to whose word? The same people who told us they knew where saddams WMD’s were?</blockquote> Yes. According to the same people who released the ruthless murders aka terrorists!

Chocolate Jesus Says:
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Archie B Says:
> They ARE ruthless murders aka terrorists
> caught on the battle field with guns
> are bombs engaged in war activity.

Uhm…genius..according to whose word? The same people who told us they knew where saddams WMD’s were?

Yes. According to the same people who released the ruthless murders aka terrorists!

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5544858 ralph the wonder llama Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:33:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5544858 Sadly, Keltoi, I think you're right. JV team is the best Troll Central can do these days, it seems. b-cup does his best to provide some competition, but he's only one troll. What he needs is for you to stop being so reasonable and start <em>trolling</em>, dammit! Sadly, Keltoi, I think you’re right. JV team is the best Troll Central can do these days, it seems.

b-cup does his best to provide some competition, but he’s only one troll.

What he needs is for you to stop being so reasonable and start trolling, dammit!

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5544826 Chocolate Jesus Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:22:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5544826 > They ARE ruthless murders aka terrorists > caught on the battle field with guns > are bombs engaged in war activity. Uhm...genius..according to whose word? The same people who told us they knew where saddams WMD's were? > They ARE ruthless murders aka terrorists
> caught on the battle field with guns
> are bombs engaged in war activity.

Uhm…genius..according to whose word? The same people who told us they knew where saddams WMD’s were?

]]> By: Keltoi http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5544827 Keltoi Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:22:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5544827 TRoS and Ralph, you are truly the Karl Malone-John Stockton of Troll bating...but you are currently playing a JV team.... TRoS and Ralph, you are truly the Karl Malone-John Stockton of Troll bating…but you are currently playing a JV team….

]]> By: shoeless http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/comment-page-4/#comment-5544747 shoeless Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:52:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/senate-blug-dog-coalition/#comment-5544747 <blockquote>Archie B Says: ——————————————————————————– <em>shoeless Says: But it was OK for Bush to release terrorists?————</em> No, it was stupid of Bush to cave to the democrats.</blockquote> I'm fascinated by this assertion. Tell us Archie, what did the Democrats do to Bush to make him cave and release the terrorists? Did they threaten him with a pretzel? Did they knock him off his Segway? Did they make fun of his tap dancing? Did they kidnap Barney?

Archie B Says:
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shoeless Says:

But it was OK for Bush to release terrorists?————

No, it was stupid of Bush to cave to the democrats.

I’m fascinated by this assertion. Tell us Archie, what did the Democrats do to Bush to make him cave and release the terrorists? Did they threaten him with a pretzel? Did they knock him off his Segway? Did they make fun of his tap dancing? Did they kidnap Barney?

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