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ThinkFast: March 12, 2009

By Think Progress on Mar 12th, 2009 at 9:00 am

ThinkFast: March 12, 2009


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Last night at a Politico/Starbucks “Coffeehouse Conversation,” House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) did not “rule out the the idea of a second stimulus package.” Asked if “he would be willing to sit down with the White House and congressional Democrats to discuss any new emergency spending proposals,” Cantor responded, “You have to.”

Nobel-laureate economist Joseph Stiglitz said the stimulus passed by Congress this year was “too small” and “too slow.” “We need a larger and better designed stimulus,” Stiglitz said at a press conference in Geneva.

More than 1-in-10 workers were unemployed in four U.S. states in January,” according to new Labor Department numbers that “pointed to a rapid deterioration in the job market.” Michigan’s unemployment rate was 11.6 percent, “up 4.3 percentage points from a year earlier and the highest for any state.”

Foreclosure filings rose 6 percent from January to February, RealtyTrac reports, and are up 30 percent from the same period a year ago. Considering government and industry efforts to halt foreclosures, Rick Sharga, RealtyTrac’s senior vice president, said they expected to see a decline. “So the fact that we saw an increase fell between a shock and surprise,” he said, adding, “It’s a little troubling.”

Muntadar al-Zaidi, the Iraqi journalist who gained international fame for throwing his shoes at President Bush, has been sentenced to three years in prison. Zaidi reportedly shouted “long live Iraq” as the verdict was read. His lawyers “described the sentence as ‘harsh’ and said they would appeal.”

In Pakistan, the civilian government “banned a national protest march and arrested hundreds of political workers on Wednesday, evoking for many Pakistanis the sweeping security restrictions of the military dictator, Gen. Pervez Musharraf.” Former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, “vowed to forge ahead” with the protest, which “now appears aimed at eventually toppling the Zardari government.”

Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) said yesterday that deferring global actions to combat climate change because of the economy amounted to “a mutual suicide pact.” “Climate change is not governed by a recession, it’s governed by scientific facts about what’s happening to Earth. And you either accept the realities of the science or you don’t,” he said.

President Obama issued his first signing statement yesterday, “reserving a right to bypass dozens of provisions in a $410 billion government spending bill even as he signed it into law.” David M. Golove of New York University Law School “said the prerogatives invoked by Mr. Obama were relatively uncontroversial. Still, Mr. Golove said he was surprised by the scope and detail of the objections.”

Obama will appoint former assistant secretary of state for European affairs Daniel Fried as a special envoy on the Guantanamo Bay prison, “a move that underscores the importance the administration places on persuading other countries to accept detainees as part of the president’s plan to close the detention camp in a year.”

And finally: Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA) has put Rush Limbaugh on notice. Since early February, Sherman has been trying to arrange a debate between the hate radio host and himself. He even sent Limbaugh a letter on Feb. 13, writing, “If you had any confidence in your position, you would agree to my request to have me on your show–where I’m sure I could demonstrate the merits of my views. You are a coward. Very truly yours, Brad Sherman.” Sherman has not yet received a response.

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72 Responses to “ThinkFast: March 12, 2009”

  1. 00mpp00 says:

    Obama must get a second stimulus on the tracks, this time helping the people who truly are desperate. No more Big Business/Big Financial bailouts…

    http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog/


  2. misshusseinmolly says:

    Rush will never debate Rep. Sherman or anybody else. Sherman is even being generous — agreeing to meet Limbaugh on his own home court, where Limbaugh has complete control of the situation, up to and including the ability to cut off Sherman’s mike, should Sherman employ any annoying debate tactics such as stating facts.

    Rush Limbaugh IS a coward. The only times he will venture out of his broadcast booth are to speak in front of dittohead audiences (such as CPAC) or the occasional panel where everybody on the panel plus the moderator thinks as he does. Heck, my grandmother could take him in a fair fight.


  3. Curlew says:

    Muntadar al-Zaidi, the Iraqi journalist who gained international fame for throwing his shoes at President Bush, has been sentenced to three years in prison. Zaidi reportedly shouted “long live Iraq” as the verdict was read. His lawyers “described the sentence as ‘harsh’ and said they would appeal.”

    Such horsehockey. This man deserves the Congressional Medal of Honor for speaking out on behalf of most of the world. I hope he is freed on appeal.


  4. Joe Sixpack says:

    Muntadar al-Zaidi, the Iraqi journalist who gained international fame for throwing his shoes at President Bush, has been sentenced to three years in prison. Zaidi reportedly shouted “long live Iraq” as the verdict was read.

    Sounds fair to me. After all, he missed.

    Now if one of Zaidi’s shoes had connected with Bush’s face, I would be one of the first to cry out for leniency.


  5. Nevar says:

    caption…

    “Wow… reality is really different…”


  6. misshusseinmolly says:

    “More than 1-in-10 workers were unemployed in four U.S. states in January”
    __________________________________________________________

    I expect the number of states over the 10% mark will soon grow to be more than four. The headline this morning on the Raleigh News & Observer says that North Carolina is now at 9.7%.

    Yes, it will be awhile before any stimulus kicks in. The waiting will be painful. But having some light at the end of the tunnel should give people some hope.


  7. misshusseinmolly says:

    Curlew Says
    March 12th, 2009 at 9:14 am

    Such horsehockey. This man deserves the Congressional Medal of Honor for speaking out on behalf of most of the world. I hope he is freed on appeal.
    ____________________________________________________________

    Even if he winds up serving his three-year sentence, the support for him in Iraq is enough that he will probably have easier time than a lot of convicts. And when he gets out, he will be hailed as a hero.

    I wonder what kind of sentence an American would get for throwing shoes at the POTUS in the United States?


  8. CageyCretin says:

    Foreclosure filings rose 6 percent from January to Feburary, RealtyTrac reports, and are up 30 percent from the same period a year ago. Considering government and industry efforts to halt foreclosures, Rick Sharga, RealtyTrac’s senior vice president, said they expected to see a decline. “So the fact that we saw an increase fell between a shock and surprise,” he said, adding, “It’s a little troubling.”

    Perhaps that is because everything still kowtows to business and the banks — they need to be FORCED to act in responsible manners. And there are people who ARE making their payments (like myself), but who would be unable to if just one major thing occurred (say, our car needede a major repair, being laid off, unexpected medical bills…etc.). I am not lambasting what has been done, for what it is, but the banks have been left FAR TOO MUCH room to be calling the shots.

    And most people are like me — you can’t re-fi your home when they used inflated and unreal values to make the original loans, but now the value is dropped. The value of my home is almost 50% the actual loan I received when purchasing it — so to re-fi I need cash to bridge that gap, and if I had that much money stashed, I wouldn’t be all that worried about refinancing.

    They need to FORCE the banks to renegotiate at least terms of existing loans. If people’s payments are reduced they will make their payments easier AND spend more money thusly helping the economy.

    But in the world of business and espescially banks greed trumps humanity every time. Hell, greed trumps sanity for those types.


  9. misshusseinmolly says:

    This just in — Bristol Palin and her fiance split

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29642846/

    Is anybody surprised here? Since the whole “engagement” thing was just to keep the fundies at bay during the campaign, I figured this was inevitable.


  10. Zimzone says:

    Dennis C. Blair, President Obama’s pick for a top intelligence post, has been ‘cut off at the pass’ by Schumer.

    As head of the Middle East Policy Council, he was a frequent critic of policy toward Israel. In a speech in 2005 he said that “as long as the United States continues unconditionally to provide the subsidies and political protection that make the Israeli occupation and the high-handed and self-defeating policies it engenders possible, there is little, if any, reason to hope that anything resembling the former peace process can be resurrected.” -NYT 3/12/09

    Why is it that we’re supposed to treat Israel with kid gloves while they’re busy killing kids?


  11. Uncle Ho says:

    Limpdick will never debate Sherman, the fat phuck really IS a coward.
    Sherman’s march to the sea?

    Just saw the previous thread about Steele’s position about abortion. Not only will he be forced to resign, but he will be burned at the stake for heresy.

    Good morning, campers.


  12. shoeless says:

    Asked if “he would be willing to sit down with the White House and congressional Democrats to discuss any new emergency spending proposals,” Cantor responded, “You have to.”

    No, you get to, if the Democrats are nice enough to forgive all those years when Republicans completely shut them out. Personally, I think the Democrats should ignore the Republicans, since they are now nothing more than a rump caucus which represents only the most extreme elements of their own party.


  13. CageyCretin says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    This just in — Bristol Palin and her fiance split

    But… but… but… I thought a male/female parenting situation in the home was absolutley necessary for raising children properly. Is Bristol out looking hard for a husband so that her child will have a proper home life? Inquiring minds really don’t give a rat’s fuzzy little butt — but it’s still funny to watch the hypocricy…

    …and waiting for the spin (Palin’s office is working on the velocity, angle, and rotational direction – doesil or widdershins?).


  14. DRxJ says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:
    This just in — Bristol Palin and her fiance split

    SINNERS! They should have their rights taken away (or whatever nonsense the anti-gay group argue)!!!

    All kidding aside, this does no come as surprise. So much for the faith based, let’s wait til marriage, sex is sinful upbringing, eh Sarah?


  15. shoeless says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:
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    This just in — Bristol Palin and her fiance split

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29642846/

    Is anybody surprised here? Since the whole “engagement” thing was just to keep the fundies at bay during the campaign, I figured this was inevitable.

    Of course, we all knew this was a pathetic charade. Many of us said so at the time. However, to the idiot Republican base, it will forever be a fairy tale romance between a brave, righteous mother and her upstanding, moral prince.


  16. Theresa says:

    Pushing the GOP’s message of the day, Cantor also argued that any discussion of a second stimulus represented an implicit concession that the first stimulus hadn’t worked.

    Or in GOP speak: Obama failed.

    Can’tor is an idiot. Who put him in charge of what Congress does?


  17. CageyCretin says:

    “With the announcement that Speaker Pelosi and Chairman Obey are working on a new stimulus plan, obviously they’ve seen what they did, didn’t work,” Cantor said. “Inherent in that announcement is an admission that the stimulus bill didn’t work.”

    PArty of “no”, continuing the mantra. The bill hasn’t even been out and they offer defeatism. Of course, if they actively work at making the stimulus fail then it just might. But I also think (from statements made) that Obama is aware of this possibility, and is watching them.


  18. CageyCretin says:

    Theresa beat me to it. :)


  19. Briseadh na Faire says:

    shoeless,

    Unfortunately, 40 Republican Senators can, and will, shut down the Federal Government unless they get what they want. That’s their idea of “bypartisanship.” Or should I say, “buy-partisanship?”


  20. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    Norm Coleman’s Senate campaign said Wednesday that the private information of its supporters has probably been breached and is encouraging them to cancel their credit cards.

    Coleman backers began receiving e-mails Tuesday night from an e-mail address at wikileaks.org stating that it possessed personal information about them and was preparing to post it online.

    The same address stated in an e-mail early Wednesday morning that “we have discovered that all on-line Coleman contributors had their full credit card details released onto the Internet on 28 of [January], 2009, by Coleman’s staff.”

    Coleman’s campaign followed with an e-mail Wednesday morning that said the campaign became worried that its firewalls had been breached in January.

    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/coleman-supporters-private-info-likely-breached-2009-03-11.html

    What a hoot. Their “firewall” wasn’t breached. They left their entire database of donors, including not only full credit card numbers but also the three digit code, in an unprotected directory on their website. This was discovered back in January but good old Norm never told his donors about it. Wikileaks finally sent the donors e-mails telling them of the problem because Norm didn’t do it. Now Norm is blaming it on everyone but himself.


  21. CageyCretin says:

    And hey — isn’t tomorrow the day that Chuck Norris’ 1000 right wing talibon cells will begin their attack on America?
    Anyone know about that?


  22. shoeless says:

    Theresa Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Can’tor is an idiot. Who put him in charge of what Congress does?

    Nobody. Cantor has delusions of grandeur. He thinks that, because he has been able to occupy the barren wasteland, which is the Republican leadership, he has some sort of power. He should work on being in charge of his own mouth. That will be enough of a challenge.


  23. Marie says:

    If Hersch is accurate about Cheney’s assassination ring, we may yet see Darth hanging from a noose.


  24. Briseadh na Faire says:


    Theresa Says:

    Pushing the GOP’s message of the day, Cantor also argued that any discussion of a second stimulus represented an implicit concession that the first stimulus hadn’t worked.

    Let’s see, it was signed into law yesterday, and today Republicans are calling it a failure. They didn’t even give it a Friedman Unit.


  25. Marie says:

    Looks like a lot of people are questioning why Vitter was able to get away from the airport scene, when he should have been apprehended – even if it required an airport shut-down.


  26. CageyCretin says:

    Marie Says:
    If Hersch is accurate about Cheney’s assassination ring, we may yet see Darth hanging from a noose.

    It’d be more people that just Darth.

    This could explain some of the deference offered the prince of man-sized-safes.

    It is also fitting the pattern: rule by fear and intimidation.


  27. shoeless says:

    Briseadh na Faire Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    shoeless,

    Unfortunately, 40 Republican Senators can, and will, shut down the Federal Government unless they get what they want. That’s their idea of “bypartisanship.” Or should I say, “buy-partisanship?”

    They are bluffing. If they want to filibuster, Reid should make them actually stand on the floor and talk. The pussys wouldn’t last more than 24 hours.


  28. Marie says:

    Is anyone surprised at the Bristol/Levi break up?


  29. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    President Obama issued his first signing statement yesterday, “reserving a right to bypass dozens of provisions in a $410 billion government spending bill even as he signed it into law.”

    A lot of what Obama included in the signing statements were things that had no business being in a budget bill in the first place. Congress needs to do something about how it passes laws. I believe that each law it passes should address a single subject. A lot of how Bush got away with the things he did was through putting powers he wanted in unrelated bills.

    On the other hand, I’m not sure this bodes well for President Obama’s credibility since some of the things he was objecting to had to do with his presidential powers. I am so hoping that he doesn’t buy into the Unitary Executive concept.

    Now, waiting for the conservative talking heads to make hay out of this.


  30. Marie says:

    Cantor sees himself as the new leader of the repugs and is positioning himself so. Watch as he is in every photo op.
    He is a disingenuous, sly weasel — that however only adds to his credentials for the RNC.


  31. MCMetal says:

    Marie Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Is anyone surprised at the Bristol/Levi break up?

    March 12th, 2009 at 9:50 am

    Yeah

    The 60 million gullible morons who voted for the pathetic GOP ticket …………


  32. hussein toasterhead says:

    Obama Conditions Palestinian Aid on Recognizing Israel’s “Right to Exist”

    In Israel and the Occupied Territories, the Obama administration has announced it will withdraw its entire $900 aid pledge if the pending Palestinian unity government doesn’t recognize Israel’s “right to exist.” The warning was reportedly delivered by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas last week. Clinton told Abbas the U.S. Congress won’t approve Palestinian aid unless the Palestinian government also renounces violence. No such conditions have been imposed on Israel. The Israeli government refuses to renounce violence and has never recognized the right of Palestine to exist. Palestinians have also criticized the demand they recognize Israel’s “right to exist” because it forces them to go beyond recognizing Israel within secure borders, but in fact affirm the legitimacy of their dispossession and ongoing occupation.

    http://www.democracynow.org/2009/3/12/headlines#5

    Predictable, unfortunately.


  33. angels81 says:

    Cantor, Bachman, Steele, Vitter, Jindal, Palin, Joe the Plumber and Boss Rush are the new up and coming faces of the Party of NO. They all seem to have one thing in common… They are all new graduates of Clown College.


  34. hussein toasterhead says:

    angels81 Says:

    Cantor, Bachman, Steele, Vitter, Jindal, Palin, Joe the Plumber and Boss Rush are the new up and coming faces of the Party of NO. They all seem to have one thing in common… They are all new graduates of Clown College.

    March 12th, 2009 at 9:58 am
    __________

    Joe the Plumber went to Princeton??


  35. CageyCretin says:

    Marie Says:
    Is anyone surprised at the Bristol/Levi break up?

    I was. I mean, wasn’t that the PERFECT conservative moral majority christian love story? It proved all of their issues about sex, and sex education, and abortion, and marriage, and families, and … you know… bunches of stuff….

    ….

    ….you betcha…. (can’t…. stop…. saying… it…..)


  36. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:
    This just in — Bristol Palin and her fiance split

    Which means that Bristol and her mother lied through their teeth in their interview with Greta. No surprise there.

    The current rumor is that Bristol is seeing the 30 year old swim coach at Wasilla High School and that she IS NOT attending school in any way. Countdown to Sarah Palin posting a screeching response on the State of Alaska’s website about how people are invading her daughter’s privacy. If Palin really wants the press to leave her family alone, she needs to stop pimping them to the press.


  37. Theresa says:

    #22, Whew. Am I glad I resisted the urge to donate to Norm “Chompers” Coleman.


  38. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
    Marie Says:
    Is anyone surprised at the Bristol/Levi break up?
    So, she doesn’t work, doesn’t have a college education, is unwed, a teenager, and mother. What a typical white trash republicon.

    The irony of this is that Levi’s sister says that Bristol won’t let Levi see their son and refers to Levi’s family as “white trash”.


  39. angels81 says:

    Joe the Plumber got an honorary degree from Clown College.


  40. CageyCretin says:

    Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
    If Palin really wants the press to leave her family alone, she needs to stop pimping them to the press.

    Hey! She has every right to use her family as props for her politics when it suits her. They are, after all, HER family. It is just that when her family is examined by outsiders… well… they’re just doing it to be meanies. Everyone should just believe whatever Sarrah says and not examine her statements or her political props. We’d all just get along better if all media stopped any pretense of investigative reporting, and just report what the republicans tell them to report and NO MORE than that. Then the media would be all hunkey dorey.

    ..

    ….

    ….. …… ….. You betcha’…..(arrrrrgghhhhh!!!!)


  41. misshusseinmolly says:

    Marie Says
    March 12th, 2009 at 9:55 am

    Cantor sees himself as the new leader of the repugs and is positioning himself so.
    ________________________________________________________

    Cantor believes that because he’s been anointed by Newt Gingrich, his coronation as GOP leader is inevitable.

    Unfortunately, getting anointed by Gingrich carries about as much weight as getting anointed by a random used car salesman in Dayton, Ohio. Gingrich hasn’t held any office for ten years, and has had no meaningful political role since 1999(with the possible exception of testing the waters for a 2008 presidential run that didn’t work out). He’s irrelevant.


  42. CageyCretin says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:
    Unfortunately, getting anointed by Gingrich carries about as much weight as getting anointed by a random used car salesman in Dayton, Ohio.

    Ummmm…. you mean I’m NOT the pope?…. Damn!!! And I bought that pos car!…..


  43. shoeless says:

    Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
    ——————————————————————————–
    The irony of this is that Levi’s sister says that Bristol won’t let Levi see their son and refers to Levi’s family as “white trash”.

    She’s allowed. It’s just like when black people call each other n*gg*r.


  44. Uncle Ho says:

    hussein toasterhead says:

    Joe the Plumber went to Princeton??

    I think Joe went to Jerry Falwell’s Liberty College.


  45. stateofthedivision says:

    Treasury Secretary Geithner: ‘Capitalism will be different’

    http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/03/11/treasury-secretary-geithner-capitalism-will-be-different/

    A key component of the program, Geithner said, involves going around the banking system, working with nonbank institutions — which typically provide 40 percent of the financing in the financial system — to provide financing to these institutions of up to $1 trillion to purchase toxic assets and free-up credit in small business lending, student lending, auto finance, and the consumer credit markets.


  46. RUCerious says:

    If you had any confidence in your position, you would agree to my request to have me on your show–where I’m sure I could demonstrate the merits of my views. You are a coward. Very truly yours, Brad Sherman.” Sherman has not yet received a response.

    What? The “Famous” Rush Limbaugh won’t respond to a challenge to debate him? Is a Congressman not important enough for the titualar analcyst of the Repuglycan party?


  47. Zooey says:

    Watch Ari Fleischer bounce all over the map trying to avoid Chris Matthews’ questions about the economy — even to the point of saying “How dare you?” when Matthews’ pointed out that 9/11 happened on GWB’s watch.

    But hey, at least we weren’t attacked *again* after 9/11, right? Except for that mysterious anthrax attack…


  48. Marie says:

    Fleischer’s interview on Hardball is one to view and savor.

    Among memorable quotes:
    “Obama should be thankful that he inherited a world without Saddam Hussein” and “Saddam Hussein can never attack us AGAIN.”

    Fleischer leads a team of ex-Bushies who have formed a group charged with re-writing history and polishing the turd known as the Bush adminsitration.


  49. deebaser says:

    CageyCretin Says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:
    Unfortunately, getting anointed by Gingrich carries about as much weight as getting anointed by a random used car salesman in Dayton, Ohio.

    Ummmm…. you mean I’m NOT the pope?…. Damn!!! And I bought that pos car!…..

    It depends, is there white smoke coming out of the tailpipe?


  50. Exit Stage Left says:

    Muntadar al-Zaidi, the Iraqi journalist who gained international fame for throwing his shoes at President Bush, has been sentenced to three years in prison.

    Yet the Bushco war criminals go unpunished and rake in the moolah giving speeches. Go figure.


  51. A Patriot Acting says:

    The latest revelations about traitor Dick raise more than a few red flags.

    From Firedoglake: “Now, there have been hints of the JSOC working outside of the chain of command before. And we know they have targeted alleged terrorist leaders. I wonder, though, if it included bigger names–people like Yasir Arafat, who died of a mysterious illness at a time when Cheney’s office was talking about finding someone among the Palestinians to replace him.”
    link-http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/03/11/cheneys-assassination-squads/

    And there’s the mystery behind the assasination of Benazir Bhutto. Dick Cheney had her phone tapped. He had private conversations with Musharraf throughout the week before her return to Pakistan after which security measure to protect Bhutto were drastically slashed. He was also a zealous supporter of Musharraf’s instituting Martial Law.
    links-http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/10/us-intelligence-agencies-tapped-benazir-bhuttos-phones/
    and-http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/new-book-reveals-that-musharraf-bhutto-conversation-was-recorded_10081934.html
    and-http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/004985.php


  52. Exit Stage Left says:

    President Obama issued his first signing statement yesterday, “reserving a right to bypass dozens of provisions in a $410 billion government spending bill even as he signed it into law.”

    I think signing statements suck no matter who’s issuing them. Either sign the friggin thing or veto it….then live with the results.


  53. RUCerious says:

    So, if they wanted to apprehend Vitter, why weren’t they checking the men’s room stalls?


  54. shoeless says:

    Matthews was really on a roll, but Ari fLIEscher still has it. To be able to keep a poker face, when getting caught in lie after absurd lie on TV, is quite a talent. Of all the liars Bush employed as Press Secretaries, Ari has the most innate talent for lying. He’s a natural.



  55. shoeless says:

    RUCerious Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    So, if they wanted to apprehend Vitter, why weren’t they checking the men’s room stalls?

    He wasn’t in a stall. He was sitting on the baby changing station.


  56. Shayne says:

    Did Cheney’s assassination ring target American citizens too like the DC Madame and the scientist who was the alleged anthrax mailer?


  57. shoeless says:

    Shayne Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Did Cheney’s assassination ring target American citizens too like the DC Madame and the scientist who was the alleged anthrax mailer?

    …and Paul Wellstone?


  58. Shayne says:

    shoeless Says:

    Shayne Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Did Cheney’s assassination ring target American citizens too like the DC Madame and the scientist who was the alleged anthrax mailer?

    …and Paul Wellstone?

    And the original anthrax mailings to Pat Leahy and Tom Daschle who were both fighting the Patriot Act.


  59. DNFP says:

    And the original anthrax mailings to Pat Leahy and Tom Daschle who were both fighting the Patriot Act.

    Anthrax from a Government employee.

    Who’s since been suicided.

    It’s so painfully obvious to even the most casual observer, isn’t it?


  60. shoeless says:

    The Duluth News Tribune featured a column by Jim Fetzer, a University of Minnesota-Duluth philosophy professor and author, in November 2003. Fetzer wrote that an FBI “recovery team” headed out to investigate the Wellstone plane crash BEFORE the plane went down. “I calculate that this team would have had to have left the Twin Cities at about the same time the Wellstone plane was taking off,” Fetzer wrote.

    Fetzer also noted that Wellstone’s plane was “exceptional, the pilots well-qualified, and the weather posed no significant problems.” He wrote that “we have to consider other, less palatable, alternatives, such as small bombs, gas canisters or electromagnetic pulse, radio frequency or High Energy Radio Frequency weapons designed to overwhelm electrical circuitry with an intense electromagnetic field. An abrupt cessation of communication between the plane and the tower took place at about 10:18 a.m., the same time an odd cell phone phenomenon occurred with a driver in the immediate vicinity. This suggests to me the most likely explanation is that one of our new electromagnetic weapons was employed.”

    Michael Ruppert, publisher of From the Wilderness, wrote that the day after the crash he received a message from a former CIA operative who was familiar with those kinds of assassinations. The message read, “As I said earlier, having played ball [and still playing in some respects] with this current crop of reinvigorated old white men, these clowns are nobody to screw around with. There will be a few more strategic accidents. You can be certain of that.”

    Ruppert also interviewed two Democratic Congress representatives who said they believed Wellstone was murdered. One said, “I don’t think there’s anyone on the Hill who doesn’t suspect it. It’s too convenient, too coincidental, too damned obvious. My guess is that some of the less courageous members of the party are thinking about becoming Republicans right now.”

    Even National Transportation Safety Board officials found aspects of Wellstone’s accident puzzling. An article in the Duluth News Tribune a few days after the tragedy said that “for some still unexplained reason – [the plane] turned off course and crashed.” It quoted Carol Carmody, the NTSB’s acting chair and reportedly a former CIA employee, as saying, “We find the whole turn curious.”

    More people than Fetzer and I believe that Wellstone’s plane could have been hit with an electromagnetic pulse [EMP] device that caused the aircraft to suddenly turn off course.

    Electromagnetic pulses from military craft may have been responsible for several civilian airline disasters in the late 1990s, according to an article in The London Observer. In particular, Swissair 111 in 1998 and TWA 800 in 1996 both took the same route over Long Island, experienced trouble in the same region, suffered catastrophic electrical malfunctions, and were flying at a time when military exercises involving submarines and U.S. Navy P3 fighter planes were being conducted.

    Experts have even testified before Congress about concerns that terrorists may use EMPs, which they said were capable of short-circuiting computers, satellites, radios, radar, and traffic lights. An EMP shockwave can be produced by a device small enough to fit in a briefcase, they said. Stanley Jakubiak, senior civilian official for nuclear command, control, communications, and EMP policy for the Defense Department, admitted in 1999 Congressional testimony that the feds have studied EMPs for years.

    http://www.opednews.com/thoreau1203_wellstone_assassinated.htm


  61. DNFP says:

    Treasury Secretary Geithner: ‘Capitalism will be different’

    Look out private banks and credit unions, de-regulation followed by disaster, coming to a ‘theatre’ near you!


  62. Zimzone says:

    Shoeless,
    Thanks much for your post re Wellstone.
    I smelled Cheney on this 6+ years ago, & it sure looks like his fingerprints on this plane crash.


  63. Luis M says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:
    This just in — Bristol Palin and her fiance split
    Is anybody surprised here?

    Not at all. Everybody could see this coming, even all the way from Russia.

    …. you betcha!


  64. 666trolls says:

    “They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office.”

    Another important question is who are they answering to now? Still Cheney in some way or another… or is that what Xe (Blackwater) is for?


  65. 666trolls says:

    DNFP Says:

    “Who’s since been suicided.”

    The Republican IT guy who was going to testify w/ evidence of stealing elections.

    http://www.democracynow.org/2008/12/22/republican_it_specialist_dies_in_plane


  66. CageyCretin says:

    deebaser Says:
    Ummmm…. you mean I’m NOT the pope?…. Damn!!! And I bought that pos car!…..

    It depends, is there white smoke coming out of the tailpipe?

    That’s comedy!!!!! Thanks for the laugh!


  67. CageyCretin says:

    666trolls Says:

    “They do not report to anybody, except in the Bush-Cheney days, they reported directly to the Cheney office.”

    Another important question is who are they answering to now? Still Cheney in some way or another… or is that what Xe (Blackwater) is for?

    You know that in some overly complicated way Cheney is still an executive at Halliburton (and subsidiaries). There is no way he relinquished all his power there — ESPESCIALLY in the light of the over use and over payment made to them. Cheney is still a commanding voice in those companies.


  68. tombaker says:

    Let’s play “Guess the Party Affiliation”:

    A report filed by a Barrington-Inverness police officer says Eni Skoien found her husband in the children’s playroom with two prostitutes. But Skoien disputes the report and says he’s working to correct it.


  69. stateofthedivision says:

    Interesting comments about targets for the Cheney led hit squad. Thanks folks.

    IDF Chief of Staff Work Visit to the United States

    The IDF Chief of the general Staff, Lt. Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi, will leave Israel tonight for a five day work visit to the United States.

    Lt. Gen. Ashkenazi is scheduled to meet and discuss professional matters with the General James Jones, the National Security Advisor with Mr. Denis Ross, the special advisor for the Persian Gulf and Southwest Asia to Secretary of State Mrs. Hillary Clinton. He will also meet with the Commanders of the different branches of the U.S military as well as with various government, military and security figures in Washington DC.

    In addition, Lt. Gen. Ashkenazi will meet with senior American journalists and with the heads of AIPAC, the American pro-Israel lobbyist group.

    http://dover.idf.il/IDF/English/Announcements/09/03/1202.htm


  70. dropdeadcharisma says:

    How about Beverly Eckert, a 9-11 activist, and one of the few who refused to take gov’t payoff to 9-11 families in exchange for keeping their mouths shut. Her plane went down in Buffalo a few weeks ago. Wonder if Darth had anything to do w/ that one.


  71. stateofthedivision says:

    President Obama’s message to Congress:

    The actions and policies of the Government of Iran are contrary to the interests of the United States in the region and pose a continuing and unusual and extraordinary threat.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7941031.stm



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