Cheney’s Excuse For Economic Failures Under His Watch: ‘Stuff Happens’
Cheney’s Excuse For Economic Failures Under His Watch: ‘Stuff Happens’
During an interview with Dick Cheney this morning, CNN host John King asked the former vice president why “we should listen to you” for economic advice. To make his case, King noted the following statistical changes that occurred under the Bush/Cheney administration:
Unemployment rate: Rose from 4.2 percent to 7.6 percent
Poverty: Jumped from 32.9 million individuals to 37.3 million
Uninsured: Escalated from 41.2 million individuals to 45.7 million
Budget deficit: Inherited budget surplus of $128 billion and left office with $1.3 trillion deficit
“So what would you say to someone out there watching this who’s saying why should they listen to you?” King asked. Cheney responded that there’s “all kinds of arguments that could be made,” but he emphasized that there is “something more important than” the specific numbers King cited — namely, 9/11.
Cheney argued the Bush administration had to spend (without paying for it) because it went into “wartime mode.” Cheney also referenced the need to spend money after the Katrina disaster:
All of these things required us to spend money that we had not originally planned to spend or weren’t originally part of the budget. Stuff happens. And the administration has to be able to respond to that, and we did.
Watch it:
Recall, Cheney’s good friend — former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld — said shortly after the invasion of Iraq: “Stuff happens…freedom’s untidy. And people are free to make mistakes.”
By Cheney’s logic, the U.S. could no longer care about poverty, the uninsured, or the unemployed after 9/11. Those issues were not deemed “important” enough to address.
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Cheney: “Our plan to enrich ourselves and our friends went swimmingly. That the masses got screwed, the economy tanked, the wars were a disaster, millions died, and the Constitution ignored in the process was never our concern.”
Mission Accomplished indeed. Why isn’t this a$$hole in prison?
PEACE
March 15th, 2009 at 9:49 amCheney’s Excuse For Economic Failures Under His Watch: ‘Stuff Happens’
So ??
March 15th, 2009 at 9:49 amWhy is Dick(head) Cheney not at The Hague charged with war crimes, murder, crimes against humanity, torture and extortion?
March 15th, 2009 at 9:50 amUnemployment rate: Rose from 4.2 percent to 7.6 percent
Poverty: Jumped from 32.9 million individuals to 37.3 million
Uninsured: Escalated from 41.2 million individuals to 45.7 million
Budget deficit: Inherited budget surplus of $128 billion and left office with $1.3 trillion deficit
Cheney: So?
March 15th, 2009 at 9:56 amWhy are we not hearing anything about the Cheney Death Squads?
PEACE
March 15th, 2009 at 9:57 am…and kudos to you, MCMetal. You beat me to it.
March 15th, 2009 at 9:58 amwell, to be sure, “stuff” CERTAINLY happens when you yourself set out to cause the problem
cheney is a sociopath, this is established and there is no question about it
the man should be confined for his sociopathy, for his crimes, for his treason
hard to find a person who has done more damage to this country, first with his rediculous “team b”, a fake cia he put together which would invent garbage and undermine nixon’s detante, the same fake cia did the same thing to this country getting us in Iraq (look up the thom hartmans story, written well before we allowed the lies to get us into Iraq)
AND the man is a moron to boot, (look up the rolling stones article), he sounds like he has a brain but he is a puppet of the “koch” brothers (look up koch industries and the oxydown diary)
March 15th, 2009 at 10:01 amCheney’s Excuse For Economic Failures Under His Watch: ‘Stuff Happens’
– - Dick is premiering his Pantheon of Putzes tour.
March 15th, 2009 at 10:02 am‘hey, I shot my friend in the face and he apologized to me! Stuff happens!’
‘Meanwhile, Halliburton made off like bandits. Literally. They’re in Dubai now, just try to go after them for the billions they ripped off. Ain’t gonna happen. Stuff Happens.’
‘The U.S. Treasury is an open source of unlimited wealth for those who know how to tap into it. We knew and we did. Stuff Happens.’
‘Remember my Energy Task Force? Yeah, we manipulated the energy market our first summer in office. Drove Pacific Gas and Electricity into bankruptcy – thousands lost thier pensions in that one – heh. Stuff happens. Better yet, we so screwed up California that they booted Gray Davis out of office. That was sweet. Got our man Schwartzenegger in there. Not that he’s much better, but hey, stuff happens.’
March 15th, 2009 at 10:06 amCheney… go “Cheney” yourself, Dick.
March 15th, 2009 at 10:07 amwhy isn’t that dirt-bag in jail already for his war crimes and his crimes against humanity instead of freely spouting nonsense on TV?
March 15th, 2009 at 10:08 amoh, yes, and the “all important number” 9/11. Our Crystalnacht.
I wonder, now that Obama’s in office, if more security tapes from cameras around the Pentagon will be released to the public…
March 15th, 2009 at 10:10 amHey Dick:
Remember when, as CEO of HAL, you acquired Dresser as a favor to the Bush Crime Family to relieve them of the billions of dollars in Asbestos liabilities. Clearly there was no good business reason, as it crushed HAL’s stock value in the markets (as you knew it would). Your acquisition put the world’s largest asbestos liability (the World Trade Center) squarely on your books, and the Port Authority wanted HAL to pay $12 billion to dismantle the Twin Towers.
Ken Lay, GHW and you figured out that you could call on your Mossad co-conspirators to work up a false flag attack designed to make it look like jets brought them down, when in fact, it was the “Dancing Israelis” – caught red-handed celebrating their handy work on 9/11 – who pre-wired the THREE buildings for demolition.
You ran the whole operation from the basement of the White House, in concert with Raytheon and numerous Shadow Government insiders, and Norm Mineta caught you in the act. Didn’t it suck when you had to shoot down that plane over Pennsylvania – you know, the one that was supposed to slam into WTC-7? Totally screwed things up for you, didn’t it?
But you managed to detonated all three buildings regardless, and enrich Silverstein with your pre-arranged arson/insurance fraud scam, thanks to your good buddy, Warren.
We know what you did, Dick. We know the no-bid HAL contracts for your pre-planned war were simply quid pro quo from the GHW Bush / David Rockefeller Shadow Government. We know that Dov Zakheim and Kobi Alexander are central to the “success” of your 9/11 Treason. We also know that Israel is blackmailing you and the entire shadow government.
You’re busted, Dick.
http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com
March 15th, 2009 at 10:11 amUnemployment rate: Rose from 4.2 percent to 7.6 percent
Poverty: Jumped from 32.9 million individuals to 37.3 million
Uninsured: Escalated from 41.2 million individuals to 45.7 million
Budget deficit: Inherited budget surplus of $128 billion and left office with $1.3 trillion deficit
When you start an illegal War you really don`t have time to care or worry about unemplyment,poverty,or the uninsured people of this country and well the deficit the illegal war caused that.
SO!
March 15th, 2009 at 10:15 amplunger, you’ve been reading to many comic books. There is a lot to blame bush and cheney for, but lets try to stay in the real world.
March 15th, 2009 at 10:16 amLEVELS OF ASBESTOS
A statement about discovery of asbestos at higher than safe levels in dust samples from lower Manhattan was changed to state that “samples confirm previous reports that ambient air quality meets OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration) standards and consequently is not a cause for public concern.”
Language in an EPA draft stating that asbestos levels in some areas were three times higher than national standards was changed to “slightly above the 1 percent trigger for defining asbestos material.”
This sentence was added to a Sept. 16 news release: “Our tests show that it is safe for New Yorkers to go back to work in New York’s financial district.” It replaced a statement that initial monitors failed to turn up dangerous samples.
A warning on the importance of safely handling ground zero cleanup, due to lead and asbestos exposure, was changed to say that some contaminants had been noted downtown but “the general public should be very reassured by initial sampling.”
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0823-03.htm
COLLEGE STUDENTS DYING FROM INHALED ASBESTOS:
http://www.bupipedream.com/pipeline_web/display_article.php?id=3259
March 15th, 2009 at 10:16 amGW included the issue in his State of the Union speech in 2005.
“To make our economy stronger and more competitive, America must reward, not punish, the efforts and dreams of entrepreneurs. Small business is the path of advancement, especially for women and minorities, so we must free small businesses from needless regulation and protect honest job-creators from junk lawsuits. (Applause.) Justice is distorted, and our economy is held back by irresponsible class-actions and frivolous asbestos claims — and I urge Congress to pass legal reforms this year.”
March 15th, 2009 at 10:17 amon August 11, 2002, The Olympian (from Olympia, WA), carried a Washington Post article noting that:
“Dresser had close ties to a family Cheney knew well: the Bushes. Cheney’s boss while he served as Secretary of Defense, President George H.W. Bush, was once being groomed to run Dresser, a company that Bush’s father and grandfather had reshaped decades earlier.
When Dresser went public in the 1920s, it turned to W.A. Harriman & Co., whose president was George Herbert Walker, grandfather and namesake to former president Bush. Prescott Bush, the former president’s father, helped organize Dresser and select its new president, H. Neil Mallon. Prescott Bush eventually sat on the board and by 1941, still held 1,900 shares of Dresser stock. Mallon was so close to former president Bush that he described him in his autobiography as “surrogate uncle and father-confessor.” One of his sons, Neil Mallon Bush, is named after him. After World War II, Mallon employed George H.W. Bush and Dresser executives expected him to take over the company, according to journalist Darwin Payne, who wrote a history of Dresser. Instead, the former president left to prospect for oil.
While Cheney saw sound business reasons for acquiring Dresser, there was a problem in its past — the use of asbestos in Harbison-Walker division products.”
That’s Walker, as in George Herbert WALKER Bush.
March 15th, 2009 at 10:20 amplunger, I agree with you about the asbestos issue, you just kind of lost me on the, who brought down the towers thing.
March 15th, 2009 at 10:21 amBombs & illegal wars feed the children of America’s top wealthy, right DickFace?
March 15th, 2009 at 10:23 amCheney argued the Bush administration had to spend (without paying for it) because it went into “wartime mode.” Cheney also referenced the need to spend money after the Katrina disaster
Hmmm…spending may increase during “wartime mode”, but never have taxes for the rich been cut during “wartime”.
March 15th, 2009 at 10:33 amWhen you view any video of the plane striking the second WTC Tower, isn’t it astounding how huge the fireball is that results? How much jet fuel was that…really?
Remember the big Boeing Tanker lease scandal that arose just prior to 9/11?
Dov Zakheim:
A respected and established voice in the intelligence community, his views were eagerly accepted, and Dov went from his position at Systems Planning Corporation to become the Comptroller of the Pentagon in May 2001. Perhaps not so coincidentally, it was an SPC subsidiary, TRIDATA CORPORATION, that oversaw the investigation after the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in 1993.
SPC, according to their official website, specializes in many areas of defense technology production and manufacture, including a system developed by their Radar Physics Group called the Flight Termination System, or FTS. This is a system used to destroy target drones (craft that would be fired on by test aircraft or weaponry) in the event of malfunction or “misses”. This highly sophisticated war-game technology allows the control of several ‘drones’ from a remote location, on varying frequencies, and has a range of several hundred miles. This technology can be used on many different types of aircraft, including large passenger jets.
According to the SPC website, a recent customer at that time was Eglin AFB, located in Florida. Eglin is very near another Air Force base in Florida-MacDill AFB, where Dov Zakheim contracted to send at least 32 Boeing 767 aircraft, as part of the Boeing /Pentagon tanker lease agreement.
The Boeing lease deal involved the replacement of the aging KC-135 tanker fleet with these smaller, more efficient Boeing 767s that were to be leased by Dov Zakheim’s group. The planes were to be refitted with refueling equipment, including lines and nozzle assemblies.
March 15th, 2009 at 10:34 amDid John King just take a cue, albeit a tiny fraction of one, from Jon Stewart? He actually presented facts and tried to call Cheney out. Unfortunately, he let it end there and didn’t press the issue, but frankly, it would be a nice first step if the MSM actually bothered to do their homework and would stoop to ask a tough question on occasion…
March 15th, 2009 at 10:35 amplunger Says: When you view any video of the plane striking the second WTC Tower, isn’t it astounding how huge the fireball is that results? How much jet fuel was that…really?
Please take that to another blog.
March 15th, 2009 at 10:40 amIs there something about the truth that’s not welcome here?
March 15th, 2009 at 10:42 amplunger Says: Is there something about the truth that’s not welcome here?
It’s not the truth. It’s a hypothesis. And it’s not based on Engioneering Science. I know, because I’ve studies Statics and practiced in the real world on real buildings.
Besides, it’s been debated ad nauseum, and TP doesn’t want it clogging up the threads because that’s exactly what happens when you start posting about it.
There are plenty of blogs where you can go to discuss it. This just isn’t one of them. And you could get banned if you persist. I’m just letting you know.
March 15th, 2009 at 10:46 amplunger, some sites (like crooks and liars) have a standing blackout on the 9/11 attacks, I believe it’s because the conversation goes way off topic
March 15th, 2009 at 10:47 amunbelievable, plunger’s observation wasn’t an opinion it was an observation that invited opinion, a rhetorical question
anyway, let’s get back on topic
March 15th, 2009 at 10:48 amI know everyone’s blog policies, trust me. If the topic of this thread is the criminality of Dick Cheney, then 9/11 is THE topic, as uncomfortable as that might be for the Coincidence Theory Community.
March 15th, 2009 at 10:51 amps, for the moderators
when a person brings up an issue that is not welcome please inform them that “we have a standing rule about discussing”…or something like that, it makes for less contention
March 15th, 2009 at 10:52 amperris – I didn’t answer his rhetorical question. Just pointed out that the 9/11 conspiracy discussion is verbotem at TP. Reading comprehension.
March 15th, 2009 at 10:54 amplunger, you may be right but some topics have a standing rule on some sites because they;ve been discussed so much
please don’t get them flagging your ip, I love reading your posts
March 15th, 2009 at 10:54 amPerris:
I appreciate your concerns and sentiment. 9/11 is CENTRAL to the economic collapse and every other topic ever discussed on this and ever other blog. It is the elephant in the room on every discussion. I’m not going to be a Good German and pretend it’s not relevant, and it’s high time that the rest of the blogging community stop being driven into submission by blog monitors on this topic. I want my country back FROM the censorship you are acknowledging.
Remember Fee Speech?
March 15th, 2009 at 10:58 amPlunger, I tend to agree with you on this one. And if TP wants to ban me, so be it. I think our Crystalnacht is relevant.
As Cheney said, “stuff happens.” That was the biggest “stuff” on his and Bush’s watch. And there never was a criminal investigation. Why?
And why is it verboten to talk about the trigger point for all the other “stuff”?
But I’ll leave it at this: I hope Obama releases the videotapes from around the Pentagon.
March 15th, 2009 at 11:01 amGreat… “Stuff happens.” Just like “mistakes were made.” All these things happening in a vacuum. Of course there isn’t any reason to take responsibility is there Dick?
March 15th, 2009 at 11:02 amangels81 Says:
“plunger, you’ve been reading to many comic books. There is a lot to blame bush and cheney for, but lets try to stay in the real world.”
After the Republican run starting with Reagan, are you prepared to edify us with what is reality, Angels?
March 15th, 2009 at 11:08 amBriseadh na Faire:
Thanks for standing up. Who else is tired of others telling them what not to talk about?
As for the images of what hit the Pentagon, the satellite imagery is the best evidence. The entire government knows precisely what hit it (an A-3 Skywarrior).
Mineta testified under oath that he witnessed Cheney order the stand down of Pentagon defenses as the jet/missile was tracked for over 50 miles to its known target.
March 15th, 2009 at 11:10 amWe also shouldn’t forget the issue which confronted the Republican Party. The only factor on which they were rated more highly than the Democrats was “National Security.” Take away that issue, because of their total incompetence in defending the nation against attack on domestic soil by foreign agents, and the Republicans are left with no reason for existence. Cheney tried to hide that fact for seven long years and it is now coming out full force. Facts do have a liberal bias in this reality.
March 15th, 2009 at 11:12 amPlunger, Unbelievable, TP, if Cheney thinks 9/11 is the all-important number, then so should we.
President Obama’s Justice Department should launch a criminal probe into the events of that day.
March 15th, 2009 at 11:18 amAfterthought: why hasn’t anyone also mentioned the anthrax attacks. We now know Saddam Hussein didn’t pose a threat. We get attacked only weeks after 9-11 and the attacks are directed solely at “liberal” targets, very strange for opponents who want to attack the US command authority. Everything gets hushed up and virtually nothing gets done for seven years. Suddenly a potential person of interest dies and gets blamed, but nothing is ever proven. Worse, after his death and vilification, more information surfaces which says he probably wasn’t the perpetrator. Could a shadowy figure inside the US government been the instigator of those attacks and subsequent deaths. Hell, the victims were just peons and “collateral damage” in that person’s point of view. “Whatever it takes,” right?
March 15th, 2009 at 11:18 amWith regards to the Anthrax attacks.
As Glenn Greenwald has written….
“ABC News, led by Brian Ross, continuously trumpeted the claim as their top news story that government tests conducted on the anthrax — tests conducted at Ft. Detrick — revealed that the anthrax sent to Daschele contained the chemical additive known as bentonite. ABC News, including Peter Jennings, repeatedly claimed that the presence of bentonite in the anthrax was compelling evidence that Iraq was responsible for the attacks, since — as ABC variously claimed — BENTONITE “is a trademark of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein’s biological weapons program” and “only one country, Iraq, has used bentonite to produce biological weapons.”
There NEVER WAS any BENTONITE found in any of the Samples Tested…So Who told ABC that there was?????
MY GUESS…..Someone with a vested interest in attacking Iraq.
March 15th, 2009 at 11:33 amDon’t think that CNN’s pretend journalist John King (or any MSM talking head DIck Cheney might grant an audience to) will ever allude to their real take on the former VP during interviewing him.
In stone cold actuality Shotgun DIck’s probably comes across as…kind of not the brightest bulb in the lamp, attitude & bluster aside.
I know two someones that briefed him numerous times who, after a very short while, formed that opinion. Dicker/Dither never asked questions nor responded to any prompts from the briefer, just sat there all the time like a lump, acting disinterested in the crucial matters at hand. Dick was apparently waiting to have someone else tell him how to react to what was relayed. Who might that be, pray tell. The public image of DarthCheney not at all like the more intimate one…
“Not Brightest Bulb” idealogue Dick Cheney gets his “well thought out” opinions from, where exactly?
March 15th, 2009 at 11:33 amI love the way shills like “unbelievable” pop up and start telling people what they can’t talk about. Who do you think you are? Telling people what they can talk about?
March 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pm“unbelievable” says: “Please take that to another blog”.
Who are you to say that to a commenter???
March 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pmSeriously, you act like you speak for everyone.
March 15th, 2009 at 12:18 pmNicely done, Big Dan!
It’s time to take back free speech. Interesting how Cheney and the other co-conspirators are free to mention 9/11 as justification on virtually ANY topic, yet when a blogger raises 9/11 and its connection to every other topic, he is chastised. The brainwashing that has carried over to the blogs about “conspiracy theorists” must end.
Free Speech is not negotiable.
March 15th, 2009 at 12:32 pmShorter Cheney: Because 9-11 happened on our watch, that excuses all our other failings.
http://www.pufferfishblog.com/
March 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pmCheney’s Excuse For Economic Failures Under His Watch: ‘Stuff Happens’
Classic Cheney! An a@# hole to the end.
March 15th, 2009 at 1:09 pmDid Darth lie about the WMD? Valerie Plame? The last thoes? I rest my case.
March 15th, 2009 at 1:25 pmObama is trying to clean dick and bush mess.
March 15th, 2009 at 2:00 pmKing is doing us no favors by hosting suspected criminals to second guess the Presidents’ policies. There was no useful information exchanged, and it keeps the defunct republican party sputtering longer this way. for shame John King and his producers – for shame!
March 15th, 2009 at 2:09 pmWell, stuff does happen, right?
Stuff happens, you have to pay for it.
What’s the big deal?
March 15th, 2009 at 2:10 pmCheney’s mantra.
Everything changed on 9/11.
Ignore that 9/11 was on his watch – his responsibility.
No accountability – no responsibility accepted.
Nosiree — everything wrong was either Clinton’s fault – or now, Obama’s fault – or Bush/Cheney were the victims of circumstance.
No sir — not their fault. Not their problem.
Seen this video yet – Leno2.wmv
Also, anyone see Will Farrell last night on HBO?
March 15th, 2009 at 2:13 pm*yawn*, now they’re getting into the conspiracy crap. Loonies……
March 15th, 2009 at 2:23 pmWoo-Hoo! 9/11 was TWO trifectas!
Don’t forget cutting the budget for first responders.
March 15th, 2009 at 3:48 pmExcuses.
Exactly what to expect from one of the biggest, long-term losers in American political history.
Excusemaking is exactly all the Republicans have ever improved at.
Where’s all the conservative tough-guy responsibility? Huh, Dick?
March 15th, 2009 at 4:01 pmPresident Obama’s Justice Department should launch a criminal probe into the events of that day.
And why the hell not?
As I’ve posted twice today:
THE VICE PRESIDENT WAS AT THE HELM OF OUR AIR DEFENSE COMMAND THE DAY OF THE AERIAL ATTACK OF 9/11.
FIGHTERS EN-ROUTE TO INTERCEPT THE HIJACKED PLANES WERE GIVEN THE ORDER TO “STAND DOWN” BY CHENEY.
HECKUVA JOB TRAITOR.
March 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pmPicture for a moment:
The International Criminal Court charges Cheney with War Crimes.
When Cheney asks “why?”, the response: “Stuff happens.”
(ps: Glad to see my video coming in handy. That’s why I post them. To get all these Conservative revisionists on the record.)
March 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pmA simple man Says:
*yawn*, now they’re getting into the conspiracy crap. Loonies……
March 15th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
I’m telling you, guys like “unbelievable” and “simple man” are hit and run shills. You will never see them again. It’s time to wake up, people! This has been going on for years on the internet.
You all know who I am. You can find me whenever you want.
Check for previous comments by “unbelievable” and “simple man”.
I’m serious – wake up and learn how to detect shills who are trying to “steer” conversation, and they always call people “conspiracy theorists”, “nuts”, etc…and they always appear for the first time ever in a conversation and you never see them again. Always about 9/11 and any talk about Israel.
These peoples’ job is to stop free speech and certain conversations. They always call people “nuts”, “conspiracy theorists”, “anti-Semetic”, etc…
You must learn how to detect this. And they make FOOLS out of progressive blogs.
March 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pmThe neocons really really wanted some “stuff to happen” like 9/11. Conspiracy? Nah, just read their own blueprint “rebuilding America’s defenses”
March 15th, 2009 at 5:21 pmThey never stick around, they “hit and run” with comments like “loonies”, “conspiracy theorist”, etc…they won’t engage in a back and forth. Because that’s not their purpose.
No one likes to be called a “loonie” or a “conspiracy theorist” for saying what they think about something.
Not only are these people SHILLS, possibly even being paid, but they are RUDE and IGNORANT for calling people names for speaking about something. Their purpose is to get the thread against the person(s) who is saying something they don’t want. And to call them names. The initiate it. WHO called someone a name? Go back and look.
March 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pmthe right somehow can’t seem to see the number of things that cheney & W destroyed or trampled or ignored.
March 15th, 2009 at 5:49 pmbut they can squeal like pigs that obama is a “socialist” without even understanding what the word means
Put the traitor, war criminal Cheney in prison.
March 15th, 2009 at 7:16 pm“I’m telling you, guys like “unbelievable” and “simple man” are hit and run shills. You will never see them again.”
Big Dan, I beg to differ. Unbelievable has been posting here for years, and she, plunger, and many of us have discussed the 9/11 events and our opinions of what happened many times. She’s not a hit-and-run troll.
On the other hand, ‘a simple man’ is just another sock-puppet troll with many names. Yours for the whacking!
March 15th, 2009 at 7:24 pmIt’s all about weaseling out of responsibility for George and Dick. I seem to recall when the economy in 2000 went into a recession as the financial markets were uneasy with the election having no winner for several weeks while the courts were deciding the race. That recession Bush and Cheney blamed on Clinton (like everything else even remotely (or not) connected to him). Now, in 2008 when it’s them leaving office with the economy in tatters (worse than it’s been in generations), all of a sudden the previous admin isn’t responsible? Hypocritical, but hardly surprising since these criminals have never owned up to their responsibility for anything.
March 15th, 2009 at 8:36 pmBig Dan Says:
They never stick around, they “hit and run” with comments like “loonies”, “conspiracy theorist”, etc…they won’t engage in a back and forth. Because that’s not their purpose.
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Not everyone wants to (or has time to) reread the same articles over and over. Not everyone is willing or able to check back on every message they’ve posted to see if it was responded to.
This doesn’t mean they are trolls. Doesn’t mean they aren’t either. Please have a little sympathy for those of us who are busy with work and family as well as trying to keep ourselves informed. Thanks.
March 15th, 2009 at 8:41 pm“All of these things required us to spend money that we had not originally planned to spend or weren’t originally part of the budget. ”
You mean like the unexpected cost of the invasion and occupation of the sovereign country of Iraq, who we expected to throw roses at us ? And whose cost was “off the books” Enronstyle ?
March 15th, 2009 at 9:17 pmHey Cheney- war crimes- Hague-prosecution- found GUILTY-
..stuff happens…..
March 15th, 2009 at 10:38 pmCheney’s pacemaker explodes in his chest.
Stuff happens…
March 15th, 2009 at 11:04 pm.
D!ck Cheney = ASSASSIN, PLUNDERER, THIEF!
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March 16th, 2009 at 12:54 amBut he helped make this happen and made sure it happened to us and not him.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:40 amI’m talking about busy for the rest of your life! I work too, aren’t I here again??? I have a family, too, btw…yep, and I’m here again!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Tenebrae: Am I going “above and beyond” by commenting here again? Even though I work and have a family?
March 16th, 2009 at 9:48 amA simple man Says: 57
You do understand that you are a moron dont you?
March 16th, 2009 at 11:35 amLet’s put him on trial for treason, war crimes and crimes against humanity and when he is convicted, we can say ‘Stuff Happens’.
March 16th, 2009 at 11:45 amI find the conversation regarding what actually happened on 9/11 to be interesting. I hadn’t heard the asbestos ideas before… mainly because I haven’t followed the various theories.
I can, however concur that there was a “stand down” order given to at least one flight team …if the stories some pilots told later are to be believed. The rationale (and it certainly could be true) was that American-flagship civilian aircraft are off limits to military engagement.
This line of commentary does relate to the article above because of the undeniable fact… Cheney and Bush stake every damn thing they did or didn’t do on this one day!
Whether some of the posters here have found some truth or not… I have no idea. I have, however, strongly sensed that there was manipulation of the events of that day that was not merely initiated in an “enemy” camp.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:32 pm