Fox News Edits Clip To Suggest That Biden Recently Declared ‘Fundamentals Of The Economy Are Strong’
Fox News Edits Clip To Suggest That Biden Recently Declared ‘Fundamentals Of The Economy Are Strong’
This afternoon, Fox News’s Martha MacCallum introduced a segment highlighting Council of Economic Advisers Chairman Christina Romer’s claim yesterday that the “fundamentals of the economy are sound.” “After weeks of economic doom and gloom, the Obama administration is now singing a slightly different tune,” MacCallum said.
She then played clips of Romer and other administration officials making seemingly positive comments about the current state of the economy. One of the clips was of Vice President Biden saying, “The fundamentals of the economy are strong!” After the segment, MacCallum said, “All right, well the mantra for the weekend is clear, looking at what was said over the course of the shows on Sunday.” Watch it:
But the clip of Biden seemingly making a recent remark about the strength of the economy is grossly inaccurate. The Biden statement was actually from last September — during the presidential campaign — when he was quoting Sen. John McCain (R-AZ). Here’s what Biden really said:
Ladies and gentlemen, I believe that’s why John McCain could say with a straight face as recently as this morning and this is a quote, “the fundamentals of the economy are strong.” That’s what John said. He says that “We’ve made great progress economically in the Bush years.”
Watch it:
Apparently, dishonestly rewriting history is perfectly acceptable at Fox now.
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This is about as blatantly dishonest as they can get. Really. Truly shameless, and so obvious that dishonesty is the only excuse for such. They deserve to face mobs with pitchforks and buckets of tar and feathers.
Cheers,
March 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pmApparently, dishonestly rewriting history is perfectly acceptable at Fox now.
Now?
Fact’s always need dome help to be ‘fair & balanced,’ you should know that by now TP…
March 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pmTypical of Faux News.
Nothing new here.
Move along folks.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pmTell FOX..”this is the type of reporting that we are closing newspapers for…”
March 16th, 2009 at 2:59 pmWHO GIVES A RATS ASS ABOUT WHAT FOX REPORTS?
Only 20-something percent of America even tunes in to them, mostly those with an IQ under 90.
March 16th, 2009 at 2:59 pmFuxNews should have the FCC crawl up their a$$es over this one, and be forced to change their name from “news” to “GOP Opinion and Slander Network.”
PEACE
March 16th, 2009 at 3:00 pmAlways has been.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:00 pmIt’s acceptable globally now by all MSM. Fox is less clever, though, about hiding it.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:01 pmtaking quotes out of context?
fox “news”?
starchie?
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 3:02 pmI disagree. The intent is typical, but the execution is a step beyond what they usually try to pull. This is appallingly bad faith and a miserable excuse for even the level of journalism they pretend to practice.
Over the weekend I was engaged in a long, drawn out discussion with troll jay on this very subject, among others.
jay’s stated position was that any quoting of a comment without its surrounding text was “out of context”. I tried to explain that if someone quotes another accurately, without distorting the original meaning of the statement, that’s not only acceptable, it’s necessary for efficient communication.
It’s an “out of context” offense only when the original meaning of the statement is changed.
jay, if you’re reading… this example from Faux News is what I was talking about when i said “change the original meaning”.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:04 pmApparently, dishonestly rewriting history is perfectly acceptable at Fox now.
Well…yeah.
It’s what they DO.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:05 pmWatch for a smackdown of this on Olbermann or Maddow or both.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:08 pmJust when you thought Faux News couldnt sink any lower..
March 16th, 2009 at 3:11 pmgalmud Says:
Just when you thought Faux News couldnt sink any lower..
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oh no,
i always think fox can sink lower.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 3:13 pmOriginal: If you want real news, don’t watch Fox news.
Fox News Reports:
“Even liberals agree “If you want real news…watch Fox News!”
March 16th, 2009 at 3:14 pmThey always stupidly think that we’re too stupid to catch them in their lies. Hey, Doofus! That big box with the lens thing pointing at you? That records and stores all the word coming out of your mouth, and the mouths of others that it points at. And plays it back for people looking to prove that you are a dishonest lying piece of sh*t!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:14 pmFox News screwed up. No doubt. They got the wrong clip. But the question is, are you saying that Biden is saying the economy is NOT sound? If you are, then you’re saying the Vice President and the President are in disagreement (again) because this weekend Obama said the economy IS sound. So which is it? I know what MY answer would be.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:17 pmYou can see the “CHANGE” sign behind Biden’s head.
She needs to be dismissed….just like the one who said terrorist fist bump.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:17 pmThis IS absolutely incredible. Does f@rt news really think they can fool all their viewers with this clip? F@rt news has hit an all time low and this clip should be sent widely to all we know.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:18 pm“Fox News screwed up. No doubt. They got the wrong clip”
Yes they did.
She even said that this is what they were saying this weekend.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:19 pmwatchdog Says:
“TP caught fox doing something that they do on a daily bases.”
Then I’m sure you won’t have any trouble linking to one (1) instance of TP taking a quote so far out of context that it is used to portray the opposite of the original intent…
March 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pmHey look, Fox fought and won a tough court battle for the right to make up whatever shit they want and still call it “news”.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pmCaptain Brodad Unkabuddy Says: “If you are, then you’re saying the Vice President and the President are in disagreement (again) because this weekend Obama said the economy IS sound. So which is it? I know what MY answer would be.”
You can’t quote and use a false statement from Biden to make a debate.
That would show a lack of ethics….
NEVER MIND…..
March 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pmThis is a brand-new low for the FNC. As if the lows could get any lower.
Will Fox apologize for this? All signs point to no.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:24 pmwatchdog Says:
I guess the hypocrisy of this whole thing should be ignored because TP caught fox doing something that they do on a daily bases.
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daily basis?
that should be a long list.
let’s check “thinkprogress watch”
and see what they have.
jk, can join us here.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 3:24 pmThe fact that TP caught Faux doing something that Faux does on a daily basis should be embarrassing to a conservative like yourself.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pmJohn Kerry….
Obviously you do not get the fact F@rt news is pulling the wool over your eyes. Watch the clips, over and over if you have to and maybe you will get it.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:26 pmWell sure, the result from the demographics study on Fox News viewers confirmed it.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:26 pmJohn Kerry Says:
It doesn’t matter what he’s saying.
JK, you Capslock moron.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:27 pmWatchdog says: I never liked humping an old lady’s leg.
Fox news reports: Some say that watchdog likes humping old ladies legs.!!1Pictures at 11:00.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:27 pmand jk,
“can anyone say…”
is getting to be a tire old
cliché that anyone can say.
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stop pretending you’re “watchdog”
and leave it to the professionals, ok?
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 3:28 pmCan someone give BoldFaceLiar a swiftboat kick in the rear for posting the same nonsense on two different threads? I only wear a size nine shoe and I’m afraid that his rear, being as large as it is, would be dangerous to my relatively small foot. Any size 14 or larger available?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:28 pmAnd CNN, NBC, CNBC, HBO, ABC, and CBS have NEVER shown ANY bias, have they? Wonder why FOX is #1?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:30 pmjohn Kerry says: John Kerry was a phoney poser who cheated his way out of Vietnam.
Fox News Says: John Kerry was a phoney poser who cheated his way out of Vietnam.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day…
March 16th, 2009 at 3:30 pmThis is where the FCC needs the power to penalize with hefty fines.
What Fox does selling “Fair and Balanced” while intentionally slanting the news with edited footage is dishonest and no less harmful to the public than televised commercials that contain false claims.
Is there any way that a class action lawsuit can be brought against Faux News for the harm caused by intentionally broadcasting false claims as truthful news?
At the very least, someone high up in Faux News needs to get fired. (Anyone remember how Dan Rather was treated?)
March 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pmIf they start apologizing for making up slanderous lies about Democrats, they will lose the base of their viewership.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:33 pmCaptain Brodad Unkabuddy Says:
And CNN, NBC, CNBC, HBO, ABC, and CBS have NEVER shown ANY bias, have they? Wonder why FOX is #1?
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it’s easy to be #1 when you lie.
what else are you wondering about?
why chicks think you’re ugly?
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 3:35 pmDon’t forget, a court in Florida gave Fixed News permission to lie, so lie they will.
On another note, people are really missing the boat on what Ms. Romer said. She said the “fundamentals of the economy are SOUND”, not the “fundamentals of the economy are strong”.
What I believe she meant is that the underpinnings of our economy are sound (once we whip the financial industry into shape). On the other hand McCain said they were “strong” meaning everything is just peachy.
This is a little too nuanced of a difference for most conservatives to take in, but it would be nice if the Progressives started pointing out the differences.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:35 pmBob, I don’t think you’d fit into Fox’s definition of ‘Liberal’. To them Alan Colmes is a ‘Liberal’. We’re more ‘Far Left Socialists’ round these parts.
=D
March 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pmnygenxer Says:
This is where the FCC needs the power to penalize with hefty fines.
Boy, if that’s the case, what a boost to the National Treasury what with all the shenanigans that go on with CNN, MSNBC,CBS,ABC, and NBC – to name a few.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pmY’know, I figured that this episode was so egregious a breach of journalistic ethics that even the trolls couldn’t defend it. I figured maybe one of them would have the integrity to say, “they shouldn’t have done that”.
I misunderestimated our trolls. Apparently even out-and-out fraud is excusable if the message is right.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:37 pmIt’s already been tried. Fox won. They are allowed to lie.
FLORIDA COURT RULING SAYS MEDIA CAN LEGALLY LIE
March 16th, 2009 at 3:38 pmBiden is not really “wrong”. He is obviously in the mindset that this country as very much private wealth. If the population, now feeling the continual screams that the ship is shinking, need some confidence buildup and steering back into investing. It could concievably help get the market back woring again. I think it’s time for a big drive on US Savings Bonds as another angle.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:38 pmwatchdog Says:
I guess the hypocrisy of this whole thing should be ignored because TP caught fox doing something that they do on a daily bases.
Please give us examples of where TP quotes people out of context entirely changing the meaning of what was said.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:38 pmWhy don’t do just that — “name a few”?
Name a few instances of fraud as blatant as this on any of those networks.
Go ahead.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:39 pmFox News Reports Version.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:40 pmCaptain Brodad Unkabuddy Says:
And CNN, NBC, CNBC, HBO, ABC, and CBS have NEVER shown ANY bias, have they? Wonder why FOX is #1?
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Fox ISNT number one you ignorant troll. ALL THREE Networks dwarf its ratings. Why are you so stupid? Fox’s very reason for being is to be biased. Bias is never going to be completely erased from the media but none of the other channels are as blatantly and consistantly biased as Fox nor in ONE direction as Fox is. You are stupid. You arent ever going to be a good poster but for Goodness sake put some effort into your posts. This boring repitition of ignorant Limborg talking points is just embarassing.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:41 pmI cant believe you think that bilbo
/sarc
March 16th, 2009 at 3:41 pmCaptain Brodad Unkabuddy Says:
And CNN, NBC, CNBC, HBO, ABC, and CBS have NEVER shown ANY bias, have they? Wonder why FOX is #1?
Except that Fixed News is not #1. It’s only #1 on cable. ABC, NBC and CBS all still run rings around Fixed News.
But you are right, all those stations show a definite bias towards the right. How can’t they considering the fact that they are all owned by conservative corporations.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:41 pmI wonder if Captain Swiftboat is BoldfaceLiar or Archie?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:42 pmThis is so funny it will be all over the other news networks! … They know how we love gaffs and bloopers. FAUX is 24/7 saturday afternoon wrestling.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:42 pmFox news is first and foremost a propaganda tool. Our corporations have bought the Republican Party, and they have their own cable news program. They have lots of money to study how to brainwash Americans who never learned to think for themselves. This is modern fascism and the battle has only just begun.
As for the FCC, what the hell are you lazy pukes doing anyway? Why hasn’t Fox News been taken off the air? What are we paying you for? What is the purpose of the FCC if not to make news programs actually produce news, and not propaganda.
Kicking Bush and the Republicans out of power was a good move to get America away from fascism, but we have a long way to go. If Bush wasn’t our Hitler, imagine what the future might hold. Be afraid, be very afraid.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pmwatchdog Says:
Certainly. And while I do that you find where Biden disagrees with the president that the economy is not fundamentally sound.
sound = to have as its basis or foundation
strong = solid or stable; healthy; thriving
I’m sure the nuances of the two words is a little more than your pea brain can take in, but there is a big difference. Saying the economy is sound means that the underpinnings have a good foundation (other than the financial industry) whereas saying the economy is strong means that it’s doing well.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:45 pmWe Propagandize You Dont Decide
March 16th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
It would be funny if it weren’t so frickin’ scary. The actual “quotes from the weekend” were mildly optimistic. The last; “the fundamental strength of the economy is middle class workers,” isn’t even apropos. The Biden quote, out of context AND out of sequence, is clearly the hook they are hanging their false story on. This amounts to complete fabrication of “the news”. The scary part is that Fox News drones will eat this story whole and believe it as fact.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:46 pm.
Dear Archie B.,
Yesterday you were railing against the Red Cross at post #18 and called them propagandists for reporting acts of TORTURE at the hands of the American Administration under George W. Bush.
But today on FOXPRAVDA…
… Of course it’s not propaganda when FOXPRAVDA does it, NO?
Archie B.,
Where’s that feigned outrage, baby(!)?
.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:46 pm“We edit and deceive, you decide”.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:47 pmLooking at a journalistic fraud of this magintude, it’s easy to forget that there are two sins being committed here.
The first, monumental one is that they are presenting a video of then-candidate Biden ridiculing an opponent for saying that “the fundamentals of the economy are strong”, but edited to make it appear that Biden is the one making that statement.
The second is easy to overlook — they’re playing a video from September 2008 and presenting it as current, as if it were said “over the course of the shows on Sunday”. TP notes this part of the fraud, but I think it’s easy to overlook.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pmGood Lord, that is dispicable. I guess this is what happens when it is all good news on a single day for the Dems, eh? Just INVENT news by manipulating a video clip??? Where is the FCC on this sort on conduct??
March 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pmshoeless,
March 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pmLying is GR-E-E-E-E-A-T!
Yet, slander is actionable.
Biden might want to think about this.
HANNITIZED!!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 3:51 pm(I should send my resumé to Fox. Propagandizing is a lotta fun.)
Captain Brodad Unkabuddy Says:
Fox News screwed up. No doubt. They got the wrong clip. But the question is, are you saying that Biden is saying the economy is NOT sound?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
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No, idiot. The fact that FOX deliberately distorted Biden’s campaign speech through selective editing does not give you license to put contradictory words in his mouth as a pathetic straw man attempt.
That said, I think the tone of optimism the Obama administration is taking lately is a bit premature, and rather wrong-headed. The plain fact is that the fundamentals of our economy are NOT strong, no matter how one tries to spin it. The average American worker is underpaid, overindebted, and often an illness or layoff away from financial ruin. Salaries have not kept up with our standard of living, our manufacturing base has been overrun by cheap imports, and our economy has been basically cruising from bubble to bubble for decades. And the claim that we have electronics is rather pointless given the lack of redundancy in our electrical grid. On top of that, the banking system looks like it will be constipated for a good long time.
The fundamentals of our economy are far worse off than Obama and his team are willing to say. Though I can understand their need to sound positive and not spark a bank run, I hope that they at least privately acknowledge how bleak it really is.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:51 pmFox sucks, but David Gregory is really getting on my nerves.
Yesterday on MTP, he framed a strawman, asked the same question 4 different ways, and still wasn’t satisfied.
He REALLY wanted to slam Obama, but couldn’t get his guest to do so.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:52 pm.
Q U E S T I O N:
Can it be called journalism when defrauds the truth?
Journalistic integrity, anyone?
FOXPRAVDA is quickly becoming FRAUDPRAVDA!
.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pmThis was not a random insertion by Faux, either. they realized as they were assembling their clips, that they didn’t have a real strong story.
Take a look at what is said in the other clips:
“American workers are sound, we have a good capital stock…”
“Does seem to be some stability in January and February, which is better than if that were not the case…”
“The core strength of the economy is middle-class workers”
Without Joe Biden, it doesn’t really sound like much, does it? Certainly not enough on which to hang an “Obama flip-flop on the economy story”.
But with that dishonest Biden clip in there, suddenly the last clip’s “core strength” resonates and begins to sound like a refrain. Ta-daa! Faux has itself an Obama-bashing story!
Do any of teh conservatives here really think this was proper?
Watchpup? Archie? Captain Broadknob?
March 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pm“Certainly. And while I do that you find where Biden disagrees with the president that the economy is not fundamentally sound.”
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wtf?
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pmEven for Fox, this is beyond dishonest.
March 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pmCaptain Broadd Underpants was heard saying “I like my men in pretty pink tutus!”
What Capn B. Underpants really said:
“I remember when a comedian was mocking Liza Menilli’s ex husband and saying ‘I like my men in pretty pink tutus’, which I felt was wrong, stereotype wise, and not really that funny at all.”
See the difference?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:00 pm62 Watchdog Says:
You are right, I am a dumbass, I do not know what the job of the FCC is. But I know propaganda when I see it, and I know it has to stop. Don’t you agree? Of course you don’t agree because you are not a dumbass, like I am.
Why, I am such a dumbass, I probably think that waterboarding isn’t torture. I am such a dumbass, that I probably think domestic spying is legal. I am such a dumbass, I don’t realize that Bush and Cheney are war criminals. I am such a dumbass, I don’t realize that Rove, Bolten and Meiers all ignored a congressional supeona. What a dumbass I am!
Fellow dumbasses, arise! We have a fascist political party to destroy! MUHAHAHAHAHA!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:02 pmMax-1 Says:
shoeless,
Lying is GR-E-E-E-E-A-T!
Yet, slander is actionable.
Biden might want to think about this.
Biden is a politician, a public figure. That sets the bar miles above a Fox lie like this.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:02 pmThe $64,000 question is, who’s going to confront Faux News with their blatant misquote and demand either an apology, or air the actual clip?
Bonus round. Will they issue an apology?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:03 pmJust like doing the campaign last fall, it never ceases to amaze me how far Fox News will go to smear Obama or his supporters. They will reap what they sow down the road however. Just as the Republican Party.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:03 pmwatchdog Says:
Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
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watchdog Says:
Certainly. And while I do that you find where Biden disagrees with the president that the economy is not fundamentally sound.
sound = to have as its basis or foundation
strong = solid or stable; healthy; thriving
I’m sure the nuances of the two words is a little more than your pea brain can take in, but there is a big difference. Saying the economy is sound means that the underpinnings have a good foundation (other than the financial industry) whereas saying the economy is strong means that it’s doing well.
I found this in a little dictionary call Webster. I don’t think it’s a right wing dictionary but I could be wrong .
Sound -
1. Free from defect, decay, or damage; in good condition.
2. Free from disease or injury. See Synonyms at healthy.
3. Having a firm basis; unshakable: a sound foundation.
4. Financially secure or safe
a. Based on valid reasoning:
b. Free from logical flaws:
That is 100% different than the way
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shouldn’t you get busy
“reinventing” yourself?
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better hurry,
or you’ll get left behind.
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March 16th, 2009 at 4:04 pmThe real irony here is that the economy IS improving, and much more rapidly than anyone predicted thanks to President Obama’s stimulus approach. As opposed to Bush’s “smash and grab” approach.
The DOW has climbed upward for 5 straight days. That’s something that does not happen in a recession. One or two day, sure. But 5 in a row? Also banks are starting to stabilize and credit is starting to loosen up, just like the President said in his State of the Union speech.
So the truth is, the economy is starting to show signs of stabilizing, thanks to President Obama’s business-like approach, even though FOX twisted Vice President Biden’s words.
How about them apples?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:05 pmyeah, i’m talking to
you doggie.
reinvent.
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March 16th, 2009 at 4:06 pmHey, watchpup, can we get you to weigh on in this particular action by Faux News?
Do you think it is proper or defensible?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:11 pmAll “fake news” do is lie 24/7 like their beloved GOPs. This is nothing new. And their followers believe anything that pours out no matter what because it’s gospel to them.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:11 pmYeah repugs the economy is going strong. It’s so strong that the IMF poised to print billions of dollars in ‘global quantitative easing’
jk, you’re a liar and a joke.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:14 pmDuring (iirc) Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace repeatedly suggested President Obama repeated McCain’s “fundamentals” comment and even asked the guest if he believed “Obama owes McCain an apology”.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:17 pmWell, when you think about it, they don’t have anything else. Unless they’re going to run more clips of Glen Beck crying.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:17 pmralph the wonder llama,
March 16th, 2009 at 4:26 pmYou do realize that asking (R)ushpublickin’s to parse the moral ethos behind lying gets you no response. They know it’s wrong, they do it because it’s an opposition position. That’s all. It’s their version of a knee jerk reaction to reality and morality.
Since I have been defined a dumbass by a wingnut, I thought I would do a little dumbass research online about journalistic integrity. From the wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalistic_integrity
According to the wikipedia the RTNDA is in charge of the journalistic code of ethics. Unfortunately, they don’t have the authority to remove Fox News from cable, even if Fox blatantly disregards all of the RTNDA’s ethics guidelines.
There is also The Society of Professional Journalists which has had a journalistic code of ethics since 1909. I thought, since I am a dumbass, I would take a moment to quote from it regarding accountability….
Unfortunately The Society of Professional Journalists also does not have the authority to remove Fox News from the air, which is what is so desperately needed. At least it is good to know that Fox News does not live up the standards of professional journalism.
I am a dumbass, so I don’t know if there is any specific organization that has the authority to remove a propaganda news program from the cable, but it is fairly obvious that Fox News is not following the guidelines of journalistic integrity, and we the people are going to do something about it. Boy are we dumbasses!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:30 pm.
Dear John Kerry,
Reading is a comprehensive skill best learned when young.
I don’t know what you read, or comprehended from the article, however what Joe said happened in response to Senator McCain speechifyin’ back in September of 2008.
Please feel free to reread at your own leisure.
.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:32 pmLast September. That ain’t history. that is current events.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:33 pmArchie B Says:
My GOD you are an ignorant punk. What do you suppose you show when you regurgitate the Limborg idiocy like nobama? Dont you realize how stupid you are. Do you have any self respect? Do you think its clever to be a brainwashed moron? Have you in fact EVER THOUGHT in your entire life? Does it escape you how stupid and pathetic you are?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:37 pm.
Hi Archie B.
I see you…
… Still afraid to answer questions of ethos?
.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:38 pm.
Leave Archie B alone…
… He’s tongue is busy (R)ushpublickin’.
.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:42 pmFor what Fox has done, and is still doing, to the country… Would someone please blow up their buildings? Please????
March 16th, 2009 at 4:46 pmOld Testament: “Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness!”
Fox: “Thou Shalt … Bear False Witness!”
March 16th, 2009 at 4:46 pmExcept, Archie, that Vice-President Biden did not say what you and Faux News claim he said. He quoted John McCain.
And as for your President, perhaps this is the quote you seem fond of paraprasing?
“I don’t think things are ever as good as they say, or ever as bad as they say,” Obama added. “Things two years ago were not as good as we thought because there were a lot of underlying weaknesses in the economy. They’re not as bad as we think they are now.”
President Obama is not saying (as your inaccurate paraphrase seems to suggest) that he overestimated the amount of damage former President Bush did to the economy. He is saying — and I know this may be a little too subtle for your simpistic mind to grasp, so bear with me — that the media has a tendency to exaggerate both the highs and lows, and it’s important for those in leadership positions to maintain realistic views of every situation.
Clear?
Good.
Now let’s get back to the topic.
Archie, do you think it was proper or ethical for Faux news to misrepresent the Vice-President in this way, in order to build a story?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:47 pmDoes anyone else think GOPhater might be a plant?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:49 pmArchie B Says:
“Things are not as bad as we thought they were!” nobama
Kinda goes hand in hand with what biden said, no?
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starchie,
hour number three.
where’s that darn doctor’s number?!
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 4:50 pmralph,
they try
and they try.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 4:50 pmArchie Bhead Says:
“Things are not as bad as we thought they were!” nobama
Kinda goes hand in hand with what biden said, no?
No.
Back to the topic, and the numerous requests for your answer…
Faux News, good or bad to misrepresent the Vice President?
I patiently await your well thought out, intelligent and articulate answer.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:51 pmUnless, of course, I’m on your Ignore List.
;-)
Habib Says:
GOPHater Says:
For what Fox has done, and is still doing, to the country… Would someone please blow up their buildings? Please????
………..
Such a fun loving group of people! I won’t go as far as to call liberals worse than al qaeda, but, I will go as far as to say they have the same mindset.
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habib & gophater.
bun buddies!
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March 16th, 2009 at 4:51 pmYou won’t get off that easy slick.
Bush handed President Obama a TRAINWRECK.
The fact that President Obama is working to clean up that mess does not diminish the level of catastrophe he inherited.
In fact it shows just how effective he’s been already, in making a dent in problems created by 8 years of being ruled by republican idiots.
And one more thing.
Biden didn’t say it, so stop lying.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:52 pmhabib,
what else you got?
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hurry up, i’m on my lunch hour.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 4:52 pmGOPHater.
Never heard of it.
New poster here?
And habib just happens to show up and criticize it’s post of hatred and violence.
Coin ka dink?
Me thinks not!!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:53 pmHabib Says:
I think eviscerating obama and his administration is proper and American.
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well you’re off the rails.
now what?
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March 16th, 2009 at 4:54 pmdoc,
it’s just bibbie
reinventing himself.
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March 16th, 2009 at 4:56 pmOops, sorry ralph.
You beat me too it.
Hell, ralph is so good, he outed the faux poster before an antagonist could retaliate.
You da man, ralph!
March 16th, 2009 at 4:56 pmHabib Says:
I think eviscerating obama and his administration is proper and American.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think YOU are a stupid, worthless piece of garbage and a scum sucking un-American troll. Please do the world a favor and go kill yourself
March 16th, 2009 at 4:57 pmI’m just amazed that Trajan could spell “eviscerating” correctly.
March 16th, 2009 at 4:58 pmToo late, habib. Your mole has been discovered and outed.
nice try at a false flag op.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:00 pmHabib, are you projecting that GOPHater speaks for all Liberals? Thought so.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:03 pmHabib Says:
You loons are too funny! Another fine example that proves liberalism is a mental disorder.
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You MORONS are such brainwashed fools. So does Micheal the Wienerdog do ALL your thinking for you or do you alternate with Hannity and Rush and a few other of the Limborg. You are so stupid it is just embarassing. Is if FUN for you to show everyone just how humiliatingly ignorant you are? Do you expect a cookie for excellence in massive stupidity? You are a punk I pity you as do all good liberals since we have compassion for those with such debilitating intellectual disabilities. By the way. It isnt that liberalism is a mental disorder its that it takes higher brain function to understand us and sadly you are far too stupid to EVER perform such a function. So you mistake it for a disorder. Keep trying. You will always be too stupid for actual higher brain function but if you try hard you can attempt to at least recognize it
March 16th, 2009 at 5:04 pmHabib Says:
GOPHater Says:
For what Fox has done, and is still doing, to the country… Would someone please blow up their buildings? Please????
………….
You loons are too funny! Another fine example that proves liberalism is a mental disorder.
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you have 1 item in your shopping cart.
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March 16th, 2009 at 5:04 pmWell, he is about as smart as a houseplant.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:04 pmHabib Says:
Too late, habib. Your mole has been discovered and outed.
nice try at a false flag op.
I suppose you have some kind of hard evidence? What’s that? Just projecting, again? Thought so.
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bibbie,
nice try. just projecting?
you have hard evidence?
thought so.
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try again.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 5:06 pmLet’s see… new poster name shows up, spews hatred, calls for violence… four minutes later, right-wing troll shows up to highlight hate-filled comment and project its sentiment onto all liberals…
Call it a hunch.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:06 pmAs long as I’ve got you on the line, habib…
what’s your take on this Faux News story?
Is their misrepresentation of the Vice-President proper or ethical?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:11 pmWhere did Archie go? He seems to have disappeared just before GOPHater and Habib showed up.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:12 pmHabib Says:
ROFLMAO!!!!! Pay no mind to the lefty calling to bomb fox news you hack!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Got evidence it was a lefty MORON? Could be a false flag call. An ignorant wingnut like YOU trying to make lefties look bad. I assume it was an anonymous call. What a fool you are.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:14 pmIt’s not strong but it will be soon.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:14 pmHabib Says:
Which “death threat” was that, newsliar?
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My GOD you are ignorant. Do you perhaps KNOW what the word eviscerate means? Look it up then pay a reasonably bright ten year old to explain all the big words to you
March 16th, 2009 at 5:15 pmCall me crazy but… it seems like I cannot get a right-winger to answer a simple question.
Are you guys finding the same? It’s the weirdest thing.
I ask them politely, “is the misrepresentation of the Vice-President by faux News proper or ethical?” and they all either disappear or pretend they didn’t see the comment.
Other comments, they see fine, and respond to them. What do you suppose is going on?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:15 pmThey call him lefty because that is the hand he uses to pick his nose.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:16 pmHabib Says:
Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
Habib = GOPHater = Archie = Jeff Bovine = will be contacted by Secret Service in the near future.
________________
ROFLMAO!!!!! Pay no mind to the lefty calling to bomb fox news you hack!
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hard proof:
“Know this if nothing else: This was a hate crime. I hate the damn left-wing liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a communist state. Shame on them….
“This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book. I’d like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I know those people were inaccessible to me. I couldn’t get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chickenshit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It’s the only way we can rid America of this cancerous pestilence.”
“I thought I’d do something good for this Country Kill Democrats til the cops kill me….Liberals are a pest like termites. Millions of them Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is to kill them in the streets. Kill them where they gather. I’d like to encourage other like minded people to do what I’ve done. If life aint worth living anymore don’t just kill yourself. do something for your Country before you go. Go Kill Liberals.”
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pay no mind to your friend,
bibbie.
:|
March 16th, 2009 at 5:16 pmHabib Says:
Main Entry:
evis·cer·ate Listen to the pronunciation of eviscerate
Pronunciation:
\i-?vi-s?-?r?t\
Function:
verb
Inflected Form(s):
evis·cer·at·ed; evis·cer·at·ing
Etymology:
Latin evisceratus, past participle of eviscerare, from e- + viscera viscera
Date:
1599
b: to deprive of vital content or force
Am I missing something?
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a brain.
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(you asked.)
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March 16th, 2009 at 5:17 pmAm I missing something?
Yep… you are.
How about definition a:
March 16th, 2009 at 5:17 pm1 a: to take out the entrails of : disembowel
Yes, but you seem to be able to achieve minimal function without it.
So what’s your take on this Faux News bit, habib?
Think it’s proper or ethical what they did with the tape of the Vice-President?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:17 pme·vis·cer·ate (-vs-rt)
March 16th, 2009 at 5:18 pmv. e·vis·cer·at·ed, e·vis·cer·at·ing, e·vis·cer·ates
v.tr.
1. To remove the entrails of; disembowel.2. To take away a vital or essential part of: a compromise that eviscerated the proposed bill.
3. Medicine
a. To remove the contents of (an organ).
b. To remove an organ, such as an eye, from (a patient).
Habibie says:
Am I missing something?
Cognitive skills?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:18 pmAbility to follow topics?
A spine?
So, according to Habib, Habib really said:
Habib, maybe a trip to the web dictionary is required BEFORE you post.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:19 pmHabib Says:
An ignorant wingnut like YOU trying to make lefties look bad.
deb, you’re doing just fine with the help of a few of your cohorts.
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Yes I do fine. Morons like YOU however do nothing but humiliate yourself with your abject stupidity and by the way you asked if you were missing something YES
A clue
Braincells
Reading comprehension
A vuntional cerebral cortex.
I could go on but the point is obvious
March 16th, 2009 at 5:20 pmbibbie,
maybe you missed it the first time around.
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hard proof:
“Know this if nothing else: This was a hate crime. I hate the damn left-wing liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a communist state. Shame on them….
“This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book. I’d like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I know those people were inaccessible to me. I couldn’t get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chickenshit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It’s the only way we can rid America of this cancerous pestilence.”
“I thought I’d do something good for this Country Kill Democrats til the cops kill me….Liberals are a pest like termites. Millions of them Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is to kill them in the streets. Kill them where they gather. I’d like to encourage other like minded people to do what I’ve done. If life aint worth living anymore don’t just kill yourself. do something for your Country before you go. Go Kill Liberals.”
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pay no mind to your friend,
bibbie.
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your friend.
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March 16th, 2009 at 5:21 pmNow now, in defense of Trajan, I did say I was amazed he could spell “eviscerating”, but I didn’t expect him to actually know the definition, or to use it in a proper sentence.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:22 pmDid you?
Habib Says:
How long have you been obsessed with Norris?
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How long have you been a moron?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:22 pmI hope you aren’t claiming to know what I meant. Most words have several meanings, which you just proved. Neeeext!
What do you think Joe Biden meant when he said,
Do you think he meant, “The fundamentals of the economy are strong?” As Fox’s reporting would have us believe? Or did Biden mean something else entirely?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:23 pmDoes Chuck Norris plan to murder all of those Americans before or after he becomes President of Texas?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:23 pmHabib, Why to you want to blow up Fox’s buildings?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:24 pmhabib is “surrounding us” too?
aw jeez…
i just ran the last batch off a couple minutes ago…
they keep tromping around the neighborhood brandishing misspelled signs blaring those damned AM radios…..
Shoo anklebiters, shoo!!!!!!
she’s in Alaska – head on up there, whydontcha?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:25 pmHabib Says:
I hope you aren’t claiming to know what I meant. Most words have several meanings, which you just proved. Neeeext!
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Yes. So when using words those of us with actual functional brainpans think about the definitions and use words that dont have a meaning that can easily be seen as DISEMBOWEL. Then again YOU are a moron so I guess you COULD have been stupid enough to use the word casually.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pmHabibie Trajan says:
Maybe because I’m not trajan, dumb fuk!
Maybe you are.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pmThat was Habib making that crackpot argument about Cornell?
What a maroon.
Here’s omething to chew on, Habib:
Cornell just won the Ivy League basketball championship. Their roster features the 2007-08 Ivy league Player of the Year, Louis Dale.
Dale is enrolled in the College of Human Ecology at Cornell. one would think that is Ms. Coulter’s claim were true (that the College of Arts and Sciences was the ONLY Ivy League College at Cornell) then Mr. Dale would have been ineligible to compete in the Ivy league, and he certainly wouldn’t have been named Ivy League Player of the Year.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:26 pmUnconscionable dishonesty from a channel that purports itself as we report – you decide — fair and balanced.
All journalists should take on FOX and expose their chicanery and duplicitous commentary which they claim is “news” — they disgrace all journalists and reporters.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:27 pmSo, Habib… no thoughts on the propriety or ethics of Faux News misrepresenting the videotape of Vice-President Biden?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:28 pmHabib wants to blow up Fox’s buildings.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:29 pmHabibie Trajan says (staying perfectly off topic):
Maybe you’re ob1!
Maybe you’re C3P0, who cares.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:31 pmIs faux news justified for airing out of context quotes from our Vice President?
I didn’t realize habib was such a weak troll. Jeez, he couldn’t even carry Archie’s jockstrap.
And I hear Archie doesn’t even need a jockstrap.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:31 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
So, Habib… no thoughts on the propriety or ethics of Faux News misrepresenting the videotape of Vice-President Biden?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Of course not. We are talking Habib. No thoughts says it all.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:32 pmHabib so beloved Rush that he got a full sized body tatoo of Rush on his ass.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:35 pmHabib Says:
You mean is it APPROPRIATE for a NEWS ORGANIZATION to FABRICATE A STORY?
Source?
The ignorance drips from this troll.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:43 pmHabib Says:
You mean is it APPROPRIATE for a NEWS ORGANIZATION to FABRICATE A STORY?
Source?
Let me help… first read the thing at the top of the page… that’s the story that this thread is about… then read Ralph’s comment @70… he sums it up nicely.
Then answer the question.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:45 pmbibbie,
you keep ignoring your friend:
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hard proof:
“Know this if nothing else: This was a hate crime. I hate the damn left-wing liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a communist state. Shame on them….
“This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book. I’d like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I know those people were inaccessible to me. I couldn’t get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chickenshit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It’s the only way we can rid America of this cancerous pestilence.”
“I thought I’d do something good for this Country Kill Democrats til the cops kill me….Liberals are a pest like termites. Millions of them Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is to kill them in the streets. Kill them where they gather. I’d like to encourage other like minded people to do what I’ve done. If life aint worth living anymore don’t just kill yourself. do something for your Country before you go. Go Kill Liberals.”
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get the message, bibbie?
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write him a letter.
i’m sure he’s lonely in prison.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 5:45 pmHabib, if you want a source look at the top of the thread! The same speech side by side, one whole the other chopped by faux news, good enough for ya!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:46 pmEvery day Fox shows its dishonesty, its changing of facts, changing of history. This so-called “news” station should be booted from the air, if not for its blatant Republican propaganda, certainly for its constant lying.
March 16th, 2009 at 5:49 pmHabib says: Doctored quotes, doctored videos and just plain lies!
So I take it you’re against this?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:50 pmHow do you feel about what Fox has done here, then?
Habib Says:
“Fox News Host Refuses To Talk About Russia-Georgia War, Insists On Covering Edwards’ Affair”
Ring any bells?
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and that proves… what?
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list, bibbie, list.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 5:56 pmNo, the source is Faux News. They’re the ones who aired the segment with the misrepresented video tape.
What is your response to what Faux has done? Do you think it’s proper or ethical?
You seem to take a hard-line stand against these sorts of shenanigans. can we assume that you will condemn Faux for this breach of ethics?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:57 pmNo.
Can you not answer the simple question?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pmHabib, are you suggesting that what TP did justifies Faux’s behavior in this instance?
Or are you saying that both entities have shamed the institution of journalism?
Just what is your position on this matter?
March 16th, 2009 at 5:59 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Habib Says:
“Fox News Host Refuses To Talk About Russia-Georgia War, Insists On Covering Edwards’ Affair”
Ring any bells?
No.
Can you not answer the simple question?
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no.
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March 16th, 2009 at 5:59 pmImpressive shoulder-chip Mr. Habib.
Was it custom-quarried for you?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:00 pmHabib Says:
And then at 5:00 pm, another live report from Steven Harrigan from Tbilisi. Think Progress did not report this either.
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your argument makes no sense.
they don’t report you’re an idiot.
doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
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try again.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 6:00 pmLook out TP. Habib wants your job.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:02 pmI think Habib works for Fox News.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:03 pmOne would think that Habib, having nurtured this resentment from this supposedly egregious breach journalistic ethics by TP, would have at the ready a link to the story of which he complains so bitterly. After all he seems to have an abundance of details at hand.
Why do trolls find it so difficult to include links?
And beyond that, if TP’s supposed breach of ethics has enraged Mr. Habib to this extent, one would think that Faux news misrepresenting a videotape of the Vice-President would at least register on his outrage-o-meter.
But apparently not.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:05 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Habib, are you suggesting that what TP did justifies Faux’s behavior in this instance?
Or are you saying that both entities have shamed the institution of journalism?
Just what is your position on this matter?
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don’t let him off the hook
so easy ralph. bibbie didn’t
include a link. here’s why.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 6:06 pmNo it would not be safe.
Why? Have you turned up evidence that the clip identified as having appeared on Faux News is a fake?
What else could excuse this?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:06 pmsorry bibbie,
try again.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 6:07 pmAnd is that where the story ended?
Did TP provide for a response from the offended journalist?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:08 pmHabib?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:09 pmjoe cantwell, do you suppose habib is getting his information from thinkprogresswatch?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:10 pmHabib Says:
So, you’re source is tp? LOL! Should I post their list of lies they’ve been caught in? Doctored quotes, doctored videos and just plain lies!
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how’s the rest of list coming?
you promised a list.
(with doctored videos)
what else ya got?
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 6:10 pmHabib- when that was the topic… ages ago, I believe TP was discussing a particular host’s redirection of a guest’s statement that polls showed Americans didn’t want to hear about Edwards affair but instead wanted the candidate’s to respond to what was happening in Georgia… A statement that made such an impact on the host that his very next statement was something like, ‘right, getting back to Edward’s affair…’
How is TP’s headline a lie? They didn’t say ‘Fox never discusses Georgian War.’ did they? They said, “Fox News Host Refuses To Talk About Russia-Georgia War, Insists On Covering Edwards’ Affair”
And what do you think of Fox’s misrepresentation of what Biden was saying?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:10 pmWhat does it matter? Is the video that’s presented as a Faux news teaser actually from Faux News, or have you discovered otherwise?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:12 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
joe cantwell, do you suppose habib is getting his information from thinkprogresswatch?
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let’s ask:
bibbie, do get most
of you “proof” from
thinkprogress watch?
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should we check out thinkprogress watch
for the “doctored videos” you were referring to?
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everybody,
let’s click of the thinkprogress watch
link and see for ourselves what’s there.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 6:13 pmbibbie look!
Think Progress doesn’t want a billl honoring Iraqi Surge
oh my god!
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bibster, your thoughts?
:)
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 6:16 pmThat’s low even by Fox standards, and Fox is lower than snake sh*t.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:16 pmJust for giggles I read the first ten posts here and the last ten. Trolls are really good at misdirection. I think it comes from not having any idea of where they are going in the first place.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:16 pmWht do you base your facts on if not the word of tp?
Can you not watch both video’s posted? Did the snippet in the first video get to the core of what Biden was saying in the second video? And can a video from a campaign speech last September really be called a ‘clip from [a] recent interview’ as the host does?
Or is that dishonest and intentionally misleading?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:16 pmbib,
more hard hitting, damning evidence here:
“Think Progress is one of the most Pro-Jihadi Blogs around. They have openly supported Iran, Hamas, The Mehdi Army, Hizballah and Al Qaeda in the past. Their editor Faiz Shakir is openly supportive of the Islamist agenda. They were saying the Surge in Iraq would fail. As we know it worked and the US has [...]”
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check it out dude.
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March 16th, 2009 at 6:18 pmI’ll tell ya what; if I give you a list of other links to this story, you’ll give us your reaction to this incident.
Deal?
You won’t pussy out and claim that it hasn’t been proven, right?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:22 pmDo we have a deal, habib?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pmI believe that tp is once again making mt everest out of a grain of sand.
So Biden totally meant to say that he believes that in six months the ‘fundamentals of the economy’ would be strong when he quoted John McCain SIX MONTHS AGO?
That’s a whole lotta mental gymnastics there…
March 16th, 2009 at 6:28 pmHabib?
Deal?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:29 pmjoe cantwell Says:
Good job joe. So Habib is a liar and a fool. The TP post was NOT dishonest. Erbe brought UP the Georgia war and Jarret PREFERRED to talk about the Edwards affair. They didnt say Fox didnt cover it. Habib you are a wanker
March 16th, 2009 at 6:30 pmWhat Eugene said, joe.
Excellent work.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pmEugeneDebs Says:
joe cantwell Says:
Good job joe. So Habib is a liar and a fool. The TP post was NOT dishonest. Erbe brought UP the Georgia war and Jarret PREFERRED to talk about the Edwards affair. They didnt say Fox didnt cover it. Habib you are a wanker
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ty.
still no list.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 6:31 pmHabib Says:
I believe that tp is once again making mt everest out of a grain of sand.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I believe you are a moron and enjoy making a fool out of yourself or else just so stupid you dont GET what a fool you are making out of yourself. You have been schooled cretin. Ya got nothin and your dishonest posts are basic studies in stupidity
March 16th, 2009 at 6:34 pmHabib Says:
Erbe DID bring it up MORON. Jarret PREFERRED to talk about Edwards which is EXACTLY what the post said. Is this REALLy too complicated for you? My GOD you are brainwashed and ignorant
March 16th, 2009 at 6:38 pm.
Hi Habib,
What’s defensable about LYING and MISCONSTUING REALITY?
I won’t hold my breath for an answer…
… Because we all know where your immoralities stand.
.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:39 pmHabib Says:
Did you REALLY call us gullible? You are so stupid I bet I could sell you an ICE cube and convince you it was a diamond. Pure projection from YOU an absolute moron
March 16th, 2009 at 6:39 pmthanks ralph,
notice also how bibbie keeps ignoring
the post on james adkisson.
a real person unlike “gophater”
a convenient straw man.
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March 16th, 2009 at 6:40 pmLook, Habib, I recognize that this video could have been faked pretty easily. I just don’t know what’s in it for TP if they faked something like this. If this were to be proved to be a fraud, I don’t now if I’d ever come back to TP for anything. Their credibility would be shot (with faux, of course, that’s not a problem).
But there are a number of other sites now reporting the same thing. Some of them link back to TP, but many of them see to have reported it independently.
So if you have evidence that this video is faked, Habib, bring it on dude.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:40 pmbibbie,
the list?
keep working.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 6:40 pmHabib… yes, we’ve seen Johnny $’s place… why no citation?
Is that where you do your ‘research?’
And since the topic of this thread is something else entirely, do you think you could answer Ralph’s question directly?
Thanks.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:41 pmnicely put, habib.
(By the way, I hope you didn’t mind me giving your remarks the “Faux News” treatment.)
March 16th, 2009 at 6:43 pm.
Habib,
I never knew disingenuous looked so good when worn on the sleeve.
Name the redeeming quality to LYING?
Or is FOXPRAVDA a member of that “Librul Media”?
.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pmWhat do you base your facts on other than the word of Fox News, or other right wing sources?
I know you guys think you’re slick with your new “prove it” strategy. I watched Andrew Breitbart making an ass of himself on Bill Maher Friday night, challenging everyone on everything by just demanding they “prove it”.
Its the defense of a 4 year old. Tell them the sky’s blue they say “prove it”. Tell them 2+2 equals 4 they say “prove it”. Its a juvenile approach from a party that has no more arguments. No more answers.
Just interference, sabotage and juvenile nonsense.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pmbelac Says:
Habib… yes, we’ve seen Johnny $’s place… why no citation?
Is that where you do your ‘research?’
And since the topic of this thread is something else entirely, do you think you could answer Ralph’s question directly?
Thanks.
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j$’s place?
LOL!
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 6:44 pmY’know… it’s almost as if habib is desperately trying NOT to address the Faux news/Biden story.
It’s almost as if he’s doing everything in his miniscule power to avoid it.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:46 pmHabib Says:
Jarret PREFERRED to talk about Edwards
That was the point of erbe being on, dumb ass! The war was already discussed in deatil prior to erbe trying to hijack the interview which makes tp’s headline a total lie!
“Fox News Host Refuses To Talk About Russia-Georgia War, Insists On Covering Edwards’ Affair”
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link, slam dunk, next?
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list, bibbie, list!
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 6:46 pmralph’s got a fish on! Shall I get a gaff?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:47 pmjoe cantwell Says:
Apparently, this was another ‘hard hitting expose’ of ThinkProgress…
Habib, speaking of ‘hijacking…’ let’s set the months old Erbe interview aside shall we?
I think it already received it’s own thread… where you could have posted you objections and where the weakness of your objections would have been immediately pointed out…
What about this thread? That we’re all here to discuss today. Can you answer Ralph?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:48 pmDo you believe it is genuine?
If you believe it is genuine, why have you refused to give your opinion on the propriety or ethics of the act?
March 16th, 2009 at 6:50 pmHabib Says:
Jarret PREFERRED to talk about Edwards
That was the point of erbe being on
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And yet ERBE BROUGHT IT UP you ignorant brainwashed piece of stupid. My GOD you are ignorant. The TP post was accurate Erbe brought up Georgia and Jarret preferred to talk about Edwards JUST LIKE TP said. Just how stupid are you? Is it your intent to redefine the term stupid? You kept bringing up OTHER times they reported on the war as if TP said they didnt cover it what they cited IS WHAT HAPPENED? How stupid do you have to be to not see that? You have to face the FACT you are an ignorant brainwashed moron. You arent going to convince anyone that your stupidity is what defines reality
March 16th, 2009 at 6:50 pmdbadass! just pour some water on my line– keep it cool. This one’s a runner.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pm.
So Habib,
When FOXPRAVDA threw in that clip of Joe Biden last September, replying to Sen. McCain’s insistence that, “The fundamentals of the economy are strong,”…
… That’s because Biden said that this last Sunday?
.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:51 pmbelac,
the exact date:
Aug 9th, 2008 at 8:57 pm.
almost three months before
the election. guess the voters weren’t
buying your $hit back then either eh, bibbie?
???
March 16th, 2009 at 6:52 pmOh, I must have missed it where you linked to your proof.
Could you post it again? Thx
March 16th, 2009 at 6:53 pm.
You know Habib,
FOXPRAVDA relies upon your viewership…
.
March 16th, 2009 at 6:54 pmHabib Says:
Erbe brought up Georgia
deb, you aren’t too bright, are you? erbe was on to talk about edwards, not the war. The war was already discussed in detail. erbe tried to throw is a few talking points and jarret kept the focus on edwards which was the whole reason erbe was asked to come on. Get it?
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ambien.
:|
March 16th, 2009 at 6:56 pm(in best Robert Shaw)
“Gamin’ fish, eh? Marlin? Stingray? Bit through this piano wire? Don’t you tell me my business again! You get back on the bridge… “
March 16th, 2009 at 6:57 pmDo you guys think Habib even read the link he just posted?
here’s the first paragraph:
Johnny Dollar tries to debunk Think Progress’ FNC Photoshop theory regarding Jeff Zucker and The Factor. Dollar makes a convincing case if you look at it at face value. However ICN never takes ANYTHING at face value and I busted out Photoshop. The results are interesting…but more importantly conclusive…Zucker was Photoshopped and Dollar owes Think Progress an apology…
(emphasis mine)
I think we can call this one — Habib joins Archie on the list of great self-pwns.
“Course Archie is a multiple honoree, so Habib still has some catchin’ up to do…
March 16th, 2009 at 7:00 pmHabib Says:
Again, dealt with months ago… you sure must despise it when someone tries to ‘hijack’ an interview on Fox, huh… so much so that you fixate on it and can only argue by hijacking yourself, huh? Careful, hijackings don’t end well these days…
If you read the comments related to that post several people argued about aspect ratio and screen grabs… as did several people on Johnny $’s comments I see… a whopping 18 comments and several side with TP…
SLAM DUNK!
Care to answer Ralph’s question on this topic, yet?
March 16th, 2009 at 7:00 pm275…
March 16th, 2009 at 7:00 pm… Flagged.
Habib Says:
deb, you aren’t too bright, are you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I may not be too bright but compared to YOU I am Stephen Hawking
erbe was on to talk about edwards, not the war. The war was already discussed in detail. erbe tried to throw is a few talking points and jarret kept the focus on edwards which was the whole reason erbe was asked to come on. Get it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You keep saying Erbe was brought on to talk about Edwards but she dismissed it as water cooler talk. That is the claim Jarret made but apparantly that wasnt clear to Erbe who is a NEWS ANALYST for PBS. I assume you base that on the part of the thread that TP put up allowing Jarret to make his case. Further evidence that TP was NOT being dishonest, in the way YOU are being either dishonest or astonishingly stupid. It looks like Erbe wasnt convinced she was only there to talk about Edwards. YOU can take Jarrets word for that. I am not convinced. No matter even IF it were true. TPs thread was accurate and they allowed Jarret to make his case. No dishonesty except YOUR YOU INSUFFERABLE MORON.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:05 pmAh yes. Nothing like a story about FAUX getting caught lying to bring out the trolls. However, I’m left with a question.
Why do the FAUX liars, with 24 hours a day to defend their positions, need a bunch of trolls to defend them? It’s as effing stupid as God needing money or Jebus needing a bunch of brain-dead freaks to “fight for him”.
Seriously, stupid trolls, you’re impassioned defense makes them look all the more guilty. If your heroes are all they claim? They don’t need the defense of a bunch of inbred hicks.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:07 pmKnowing as much as you do about it is a warning sign, Habib. You’re either wastefully under-employed or pathologically obsessed.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:08 pmAlthough ICN tries to concoct an explanation that would absolve TP, they basically concede our main point–that Think Progress used an image that was excessively squeezed.
ICN responds:
Again- old hat.
Ready to discuss today’s topic?
March 16th, 2009 at 7:09 pmgood points pete.
I was about to ask another question, which was why the current generation of trolls insist on copy-and-pasting chunks of text from other sites without either attribution or a link (which could be seen as plagiarism).
But I guess we see why they don’t post links — when they do, the links prove them wrong.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:11 pmZucker was Photoshopped and Dollar owes Think Progress an apology…
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“prick”?
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bibbie,
really starting to lose it.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 7:11 pmHabib Says:
Inside Cable News takes on our analysis with one of their own. They chalk up the excessive skinniness of the Think Progress screen grab to variations among cable providers, which doesn’t explain why this one Think Progress screengrab shows a distortion not present in any of their others. Or what cable provider would broadcast such obviously squeezed images. Although ICN tries to concoct an explanation that would absolve TP, they basically concede our main point–that Think Progress used an image that was excessively squeezed.
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they shoot you down but
you use them for a link?
are you on goof balls?
:)
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 7:13 pmOr maybe habib didn’t plagiarize — maybe habib IS j$
How about it, habib? Ready to own up?
Are you Johnny Dollar or are you a plagiarist? (Not that the two are mutually exclusive)
March 16th, 2009 at 7:13 pmSay it ain’t so TP! Is you ran(sic) by tools?
Oh mercy, mercy, mercy. I thought you were “progressive”.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:14 pmSo then Habib your PROOF is an argument AMONG those trying to prove TP did what you accused them of with ONE OF THEIR OWN saying they owe TP an appology and others arguing with him? Saying it couldnt be a photoshop because a mistake by them is impossible? THAT is your argument? You arent very good at this even for somone as stupid as you are.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:16 pmHabib Says:
Olberman watch is a crap propaganda site and YOU are a moron.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:18 pmHabib sys:
Although ICN tries to concoct an explanation that would absolve TP, they basically concede our main point–that Think Progress used an image that was excessively squeezed.
and you base this on the ‘research’ you did over at Johnny $’s place?
Read your link… ICN says you and Johnny$ are full of it.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:20 pmHabib Says:
So, you’re source is tp? LOL! Should I post their list of lies they’ve been caught in? Doctored quotes, doctored videos and just plain lies!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
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an hour and a half later
the “list” consists of:
1) a bogus claim about a post last august (nothing a little more recent?)
2) and maybe a “squeezed” head that his link says is crap.
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hard hitting.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 7:21 pmYou have proof of this?
careful — remember what happened last time…
March 16th, 2009 at 7:22 pmThink Progress used an image that was excessively squeezed.
Not on topic and doesn’t account for for the ‘vertical skewing of the overlayed images where the lower part of the image matches 1:1 but the upper part does not. Incidentally, the vertical skewing in overlayed images can’t be accounted for by a discrepency in video feeds like the Think Progress grab – a question Dollar raised to me by email – because if that were the case we shouldn’t have 1:1 matching anywhere in the overlayed image…either horizontally or vertically.’
See, you’ve got to read everything, not just the stuff you think agrees with your ‘argument.’
That seems to be Fox New’s problem as well…
March 16th, 2009 at 7:23 pmHabib Says:
Think Progress used an image that was excessively squeezed.
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That one of those involved claims was just from a different video feed. You really are a moron and you suck at thid rhetoric and debate thing.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:24 pmHabib Says:
Think Progress used an image that was excessively squeezed.
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isn’t that what your doctor
said about your zits when
you were a teenager?
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no wonder you were so lonely.
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crater face!
(sorry, couldn’t help myself)
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 7:25 pmI think that’s the thing that’s always bothered me the most, ralph. These twits run to the defense of those who they claim have done no wrong and make sh!t up to bolster their case.
Here’s a newsflash: people who tell the truth, and have evidence for it, don’t need any other defense.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:26 pmgood one doc!
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bibbie, your thoughts?
::
craterface?
(damn i did it again)
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 7:26 pmJust keep repeating that over and over again… archieB.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:26 pmHabib Says:
Why don’t you POST to the KKK WEBSITE while you’re DISCREDITING YOURSELF? ;)
You may approve of the kkk, since you’re a racist and a bigot, but, I will have no part of them.
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that was easy.
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March 16th, 2009 at 7:29 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
Archie Habib is moments away from logging with another moniker since he made a fool of himself with that last two.
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he’s lonely.
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March 16th, 2009 at 7:30 pmHabib Says:
Boo!
Epic Fail.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:33 pmHabib Says:
I got nothin’… HEY! Look over here!
March 16th, 2009 at 7:34 pmHabib Says:
Local health systems are cutting non-emergency health services for illegal aliens as health officials find themselves trapped between dwindling federal, state and local funding streams …
It’s about time!
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uh oh, someone’s trying
to get out of doing their list.
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bibbie you made your bed:
Habib Says:
So, you’re source is tp? LOL! Should I post their list of lies they’ve been caught in? Doctored quotes, doctored videos and just plain lies!
March 16th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
now sleep in it.
:)
March 16th, 2009 at 7:35 pmHell yeah, Habib…
…only real wusses would care about having to step over corpses of indigent people on their way to work.
TOUGH LIKE DIAPERED IRON – THAT’S THE CONSERVATIVE WAY!!!
March 16th, 2009 at 7:36 pmIf Habib is not Archie, they took the same trolling course.
Trollish “debating” tactic #7c:
When you have your ass handed to you, nine ways from Sunday, switch to an entirely irrelevant topic.
Of course, they’re too effing stupid to realize that abandoning the subject of a debate is an automatic fail. You lose, again, stupid troll.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:40 pmThis has become a most entertaining exchange with our friend habib.
It seems he has completely abandoned any pretense of having a point and has resorted to tossing bread crumbs in the hopes of distracting the bear that’s chasing him.
I apologize for calling habib a weak troll earlier. For sheer entertainment value, he can stand toe-to-toe with Archie any day of the week.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:42 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
For sheer entertainment value, he can stand toe-to-toe with Archie any day of the week.
I think that toe-to-heel is more likely. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:46 pmuh ralph,
arch and bibbie?
the same.
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sorry dude.
:(
March 16th, 2009 at 7:46 pmthat is disappointing, joe.
That means that we still only have one troll who’s pwned himself.
Although now he’s done it three times.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:52 pmFaux news, revoke their license for fraud.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:56 pmralph,
more shocking news.
is bibbie, in reality,
GARY SKOIEN?
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bibby please link to the shocking
video (or bideo as you would call it)
and give us your comments.
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thank you.
..
March 16th, 2009 at 7:56 pmAs I go back and peruse Habib’s contributions, I too become more convinced it’s the newest sockpuppet, in place of the fallen Archie. It’s hard to believe that two separate entities would display so many of the same intellectual handicaps.
The next test will be to see if it returns for the last word when the thread has been abandoned.
March 16th, 2009 at 7:57 pmHabib Says:
Local health systems are cutting non-emergency health services for illegal aliens as health officials find themselves trapped between dwindling federal, state and local funding streams
And as Habib shops in the same stores they frequent! Do you hold your breath in the check-out line? Wear rubber gloves in public?
March 16th, 2009 at 8:01 pmpete,
i agree.
too many
“can you say”s
and “_____ much?”
…the usual sock clichés.
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March 16th, 2009 at 8:03 pm#281 Habib,
… Who’s the prick?
Is that all you’ve got?
If it wasn’t for your trollishness, this post would have not achieved it’s numerous posts.
March 16th, 2009 at 8:13 pmGOPhater flagged for attempting to incite illegal and violent actions.
March 16th, 2009 at 9:11 pmAren’t Habib and Archie B cut from the same jib so to speak?
March 16th, 2009 at 9:25 pmThat seems to be the consensus of opinion, dbadass.
by the way, thanks for your help this afternoon. Habib was a fighter but, y’know, when we finally landed him, he just kind of dissolved in a little puddle on the deck.
Smelled a little like cat urine, if you ask me.
March 16th, 2009 at 9:32 pmDogfish pass their urine across the skin…
March 16th, 2009 at 9:53 pmAre you suggesting habib = watchpup?
March 16th, 2009 at 10:06 pmI can’t help but think the honchos at faux were trying to prod their viewers into thinking, “Hey, so THAT’S who made that dumb-a$$ remark! I KNEW it!! I’ve been trying to remember who said that! Figures! Stupid DEMOCRAT party!
March 17th, 2009 at 12:19 amFOX News adheres to the philosophy common among right-wing extremists. It really doesn’t matter whether a story or statement is factually accurate; what matters is whether or not they can SELL it.
March 17th, 2009 at 12:35 aminfoganda
March 17th, 2009 at 6:43 amfoxganda
ministry of propaganda
media whores selling media blow
B’RYAN
Thank you so much, Think Progress!! You have presented documented, side-by-side video examples of the journalistic ethics that Faux News continually violates. I plan to show these two clips to my right-wing, Faux News-watching brother to prove they are nothing but a jingoistic propaganda machine for corporate interests and the right wing. If this isn’t evidence to show him that Faux doesn’t present true facts, I don’t know what is. My only worry is that the bro will be as brainwashed as Habib and willfully ignore the facts in front of his two eyes.
March 17th, 2009 at 8:20 amHappy St. Paddy’s to all TP readers and posters …
The left knows no limits. Fox inadvertantly hired a lieing liberal mole intern that knew full well that millions of viewers as well as Bidden himself would cry foul at this. The whole intent was to discredit FOX. That so many on the left feel for it with gusto shows just how shallow their thinking skills are.
March 17th, 2009 at 10:53 amWe look forward to the documentation of your evidence for this charge, Webspin.
You obviously have some inside info. Do you know the name of this “lieing (sic) liberal mole intern”?
Do you have the name of the person who hired him?
Can you explain what you meant when you typed “so many on the left feel for it with gusto”?
Thanks. I look forward to a vigorous debate with you on this and many topics, as you seem to have very deep thinking skills — only those with deep thinking skills would feel comfortable criticizing others for having shallow ones, right?
March 17th, 2009 at 11:05 amSeriously, Webspin. If you know which “lieing (sic) liberal mole intern” is responsible for this embarrassing Faux-pas, I’d like to know.
I am totally against leveling unfounded charges at people or institutions. If Faux News is blameless in this, I want to know.
March 17th, 2009 at 11:11 amHuh? Oh man… is this what you’ve been reduced to, Habib?
March 17th, 2009 at 12:25 pmExcellent.
As I read, I couldn’t help but laugh. Laugh real hard at the comments that are being made. Maybe I overlooked it, if I did I’m sorry, but not one person is saying what is really going on here. Do you think for one moment Fox cares about anything on this blog? LOL, heck no, Fox News wants ratings and you idiots are giving it to them. Everyone one is watching what Fox is saying becuase they want to offer an opinion. Your watching and their rating are increasing. Chew on that for a while…
March 17th, 2009 at 12:44 pmCheck this link for an example (among many available) of left wing media bias:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2008/05/20/cnn-ignored-own-tape-pushed-false-partisan-shot-mccain
March 17th, 2009 at 3:57 pmget a grip, archie/habib/olbie_watch/Webspin…
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/17/fox-news-biden-fundamentals/#comments
March 17th, 2009 at 4:01 pmAs external stress increases, more (not so) distinct personalities appear.
March 17th, 2009 at 4:53 pmI look forward to a vigorous debate with you on this and many topics, as you seem to have very deep thinking skills.
March 18th, 2009 at 12:42 pmgood decision indeed
March 18th, 2009 at 1:08 pmAwww look at the libs playing yet another game of ‘Gotcha’. It’s nice to know that even though so many of you (all of you?) hate Fox News sooooooooooooo much, you STILL watch it! Oh and hey, can we conservatives play this game of ‘gotcha’ too? Or is it strictly a liberal thing?
March 18th, 2009 at 11:02 pmCan someone explain why this is different than want the MSM or White House tried to do to Rush with their creative edits? Liberals scream really loud when their tricks are used on them!
March 19th, 2009 at 1:56 pm