Who Are The Anonymous ‘Three Or Four’ Senators In Bayh’s Blue Dog-Style Coalition?
Who Are The Anonymous ‘Three Or Four’ Senators In Bayh’s Blue Dog-Style Coalition?
This morning on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) discussed the creation of a new group of “moderate” Democratic senators whose goal is to “restrain the influence of party liberals.” MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell explained the implications of Bayh’s new group, saying “this is the group that will control the outcome politically on what can pass on the Senate floor.”
Bayh explained that his office would be issuing a press release detailing the group and its 15 inaugural members. This press release is now available and explains that the group is “will meet every other Tuesday before the Democratic Caucus lunch to discuss legislative strategies and ideas”:
[T]he Moderate Dems are joined by a shared commitment to pursue pragmatic, fiscally sustainable policies across a range of issues, such as deficit containment, health care reform, the housing crisis, educational reform, energy policy and climate change.
In addition to Bayh, Sens. Tom Carper (D-DE) and Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) will lead the group. Other members include: Sens. Mark Udall (D-CO), Michael Bennet (D-CO), Mark Begich (D-AK), Kay Hagan (D-NC), Herb Kohl (D-WI), Mary Landrieu (D-LA), Joe Lieberman (I-CT), Claire McCaskill (D-MO), Ben Nelson (D-NE), Bill Nelson (D-FL), Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), and Mark Warner (D-VA).
But Bayh also told MSNBC this morning that there are “three or four” members in what he called the “Witness Protection Program.” These members, Bayh explained, are currently attending the group’s meetings but do not wish to be “publicly identified.” Based on press reports, however, ThinkProgress has compiled a list of who might be the three anonymous “moderates.” The following members have been reported as attending Bayh’s meetings in recent weeks, but are not named in today’s press release:
– Sen. Robert P. Casey Jr. (D-PA)
– Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
– Sen. Mark Pryor (D-AR)
Additionally, Bayh told MSNBC this morning that yesterday’s meeting featured a presentation by Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad (D-ND) on the upcoming budget debate.
Steve Benen observes, “The president — you know, the one who just easily won a national election and enjoys strong approval ratings — will face governing challenges in a Senate in which his own party has 58 (eventually, 59) members. Part of the problem is Republican obstructionism, and part of it is Bayh and the Blue Dogs who feel more comfortable driving with their foot on the brake.”
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So, it looks like we have some Democratic Senators forming a coalition with Boltin’ Joe Lieberman to obstruct President Obama’s policies.
It just goes to show that having a (D) behind your name doesn’t mean you are working for We, the People.
Are they “Blue Dogs” or “Red Coats”?
March 18th, 2009 at 5:47 pmBut Bayh also told MSNBC this morning that there are “three or four” members in what he called the “Witness Protection Program.” These members, Bayh explained, are currently attending the group’s meetings but do not wish to be “publicly identified.”
As long as the corporate lobbyists get the names right on the checks…
March 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pmAs long as we overreact to the news, we’ll be serving Newt’s purposes to a T, so knock youselves out, I guess.
Hey R’s – watch us blow it through internal hissypitching!! We can do it faster!!!
March 18th, 2009 at 5:50 pm.
To each their own…
… Let the People decide.
Do their constituients deserve a health care system worthy of ALL Americans, or just the privileged?
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March 18th, 2009 at 5:51 pmThis is why the Democrats can never consolidate a position. May each of these Red Dog Democrats, red being the color of their doggy butts now that they have decided to raise their tails, answer to their constituency in the next election.
March 18th, 2009 at 5:55 pma-holes!
March 18th, 2009 at 5:56 pmThey eat their own!
yep – sounds like red coats to me…
as if President Obama doesn’t have enough idjits to worry about…
and claire mccaskil??? unless she’s there to baby sit and keep an eye on things, that’s a very disappointing item…
March 18th, 2009 at 5:59 pmBayh and the Blue Dogs who feel more comfortable driving with their foot on the brake.”
bayh is from indiana, right? there’s a lot of that kind of driving around there… some of ‘em make it to illinois…
i really hate when that happens… left foot on the brake too…
March 18th, 2009 at 6:01 pmOT but:
March 18th, 2009 at 6:05 pmAnyone see who the new rightwing pundent is on CNN’s situation room? Dana Perino.
At least one of the Bushies found a job.
3. tombaker Says: As long as we overreact to the news, we’ll be serving Newt’s purposes to a T, so knock youselves out, I guess.
Yes, we wouldn’t want to play into Newt’s hands by showing righteous and fully earned indignation at having our elected officials forming a further obstructive substrata in direct contradiction of the reason and mandate for which they were sent to Washington in the first place: the wholesale rejection of the incompetent, ham-handed republican agenda.
Yes, Newt might claim to dictate our reaction…by triggering our suppression of a reaction. Damn, either way Newt wins! Those wily conservatives…
March 18th, 2009 at 6:08 pmHere is the text of the email I just sent to Sen Kay Hagan of North Carolina. “I can’t believe I voted for something like you so that will go to Washington and undermine good changes that Obama intends to do. I will not repeat that mistake again. I was unemployed for 2 years after getting laid off and I sweated every day that I wouldn’t get sick because I didn’t have health insurance. Now Obama is trying to make changes that may keep 18,000 Americans from dying every year and you intend to veto any changes in budget reconciliation. Have a lousy day, one term senator.”
I suggest more people do the same and let them know how you feel.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:08 pmHanshiro –
Who exactly are the candidates you want to get elected into the seats these guys now hold, and how exactly are you going to get them there?
Until you’ve got a good answer for that, you ought to be grateful those aren’t all R seats right now.
Maybe we should all just vote for Ralph Nader or something, huh? – That would surely get us what we want.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:13 pmWe the people are making a list, and checking it twice, so we will decide who’s naughty or nice. Remember that DINO’s or blue dogs or red coats or moles or whatever the hell you are.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:18 pmI wrote my senator, Hagan, to express my displeasure with her abandoning the progressive wing of the party. I encourage everyone whose senators join the republican-lite wing of the party to do the same. They need to hear from progressives about their unacceptable behavior.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:18 pmSadly, my senator is Herb Kohl. Why he is a Democrat is beyond me. The guy owns the Bucks and a department store chain. For him hardship is having to use a $50 to light his cigar because he’s out of $100.
And he still gets elected.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:21 pmMrs. Evan Bayh, wife of the corporacrat and board member for numerous health care companies:
http://stateofthedivision.blogspot.com/2009/03/bayh-household-finance-update.html
Add Susuan’s WellPoint exercised stock options of over $1.5 million to her 2007 board compensation of $770,000 and that’s serious for profit health care pay.
I’m sure Evan will push corporacrat health care deform.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:28 pm“… the group is ‘will meet every other Tuesday before the Democratic Caucus lunch to discuss legislative strategies and ideas’:
At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised in the least to learn that Rove was advising them on strategy and tactics.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:29 pmCan’t wait for the list. I’ll email every one of them and let them know where my money is going next election cycle. We will take this country back from these miserable bastards.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:29 pm12. tombaker Says: Hanshiro – Who exactly are the candidates you want to get elected into the seats these guys now hold, and how exactly are you going to get them there? Until you’ve got a good answer for that, you ought to be grateful those aren’t all R seats right now.
Your advocacy of silent obeisance to an unauthorized block-group formed extraneously of the purpose they were sent to office for is a recipe for a severe screwing similar to the one we suffered for our spineless, silent media through 8 long, idiotic years. How’d that work out?
Our leadershi(t) should worry about pulling cliquish, exclusive crap like this. Instead, we have fledgling appeasers trying to shout down fully justified disapproval by breathlessly waving the canard fallacy of extremes: Don’t criticize, would you rather have a republican???
No, tom, I’d rather the fool I sent to Washington do his promised, Goddamn job, and if I think he’s pulling some intramural shenanigans that make it harder to get that job done, I’ll let him and anyone who voted for him know. If the dems want to keep the seat, they’ll get him in line.
There’s still enough of America left to speak out about disingenuous politicking by our ‘representatives.’
March 18th, 2009 at 6:32 pmI think its important to point out that the DOW is up for the SEVENTH straight day.
7 days of upward growth is a sign that the Presidents policies ARE working, and in spite of the naysayers we are seeing that STIMULUS DOES WORK.
President Obama is defying the odds, the critics and the republican (and unfortunately democrat) “SABOTEURS” and doing what he said he’d do by using STIMULUS injections and federal oversight, to drive the economy forward and turn us around from the TRAIN WRECK left by Bush.
The people see this and they’re not going to stand “Bayh” and watch democrats try to interfere with the President’s success at every turn. If this is what this gang of “blue dogs” wants then they’d better be prepared to say “Bye Bayh” in 2010.
Because the people won’t stand for it.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:33 pmRahm Emanuel led the DCCC to centrism. Evan is doing the same in the Senate. It’s amazing how many of the newbies jumped straight to the center, Warner, Udall, Hagan, Shaheen, Bennet and Begich.
That’s six of the mandate elected Senators switching to corporatism within months of swearing in. It’s the party of Rahm.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:33 pmSince apparently we now have the phone records of every call made since 2000 and all the emails too, somewhere secreted in the NSA databases, wouldnt it be a good time to look and see what groups (or maybe gropes), mr Bayh has connections to?
FOr “national security” purposes of course, we woudlnt want any foreign governments or their agents doing anything that woudl harm america’s national security.
I always told my girlfriend, that there was essentially “sleeper cells” of pro-corporate, bribed the bone democrats who bore much more in common with their corrupt republican cohorts than they did any true progressive, and that if a truly progressive president every got a majority in both houses, these guy would reveal themselves for what they are..the same kind of corporate wh0res that run CNBC..My estimate is that 30-40 percent of the democrats are truly populist, pro-main street types, another 10-20 percent are spinelss, and the rest are just basically republicans under a different moniker..
March 18th, 2009 at 6:33 pmWhy do they need to form a separate club? This group represents why Democrats working together is like herding cats. They can’t stand the prosperity of being in power. I hate that repugniscum march in lockstep, following orders from on high, but is the only alternative to have dissention, if not mutiny, within the ranks? Why do they need to form a separate group?
March 18th, 2009 at 6:33 pmBecause none of the other clubs would have them?
March 18th, 2009 at 6:36 pmbye – bye, Senator Bayh.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:40 pmSheesh, it’s like these guys *want* to fark everything up. I’m all for independent thinking and input, but creating a secret club for it and bragging about how you intend to use it to be obstructionist seems a bit…dumb.
I hope they intend to be constructive and not be twits.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:41 pmI live in Udall’s district and I am livid as will be the many, many people I know who worked their asses off to help elect him. He is a traitor.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:43 pmI wonder if these same folks would have formed their little coalition if Hillary Clinton had been elected president. I don’t think so. So what makes them so comfortable confronting Barack Obama in this way?
March 18th, 2009 at 6:47 pmEvery one of these clowns kept a nice low profile when there was no chance for them to be heard. Now that there is a chance, they are playing, look at me.
Obviously the greater good doesn’t just apply to Republicans. There are way too many Democrats just as venal.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:48 pmAnd the ‘greater good’ means campaign contributions and me, me, me.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:50 pmBayh wonts to create a new group of DINOS. What is wrong with the old group of DINOS, the boll weevils, who with the RepubliCons are largely responsible for the mess we are in. Bayh should call himself and the boll weevils, RepubliCon stooges. We still have a lot of RepubliCons and DINO stooges to get rid of, before we can end the Bush Depression. They got us into this mess and they will only drag it out.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:52 pm.
Senator Even Bye-Bye ya.
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March 18th, 2009 at 6:55 pmFor 8 years, these limp-dicks gave Bush everything he wanted without so much as a whimper. Now with a Dem in the WH and the Majority, they suddenly grow a set. I despise them.
March 18th, 2009 at 6:56 pmMY what??
You know me better than that Hanshiro.
“Silent obeisance” is a dramatic choice of words, but bears no resemblance to my actual remarks.
We should all be working to put the best, or the better, D into office wherever possible. That should not mean that where we cannot get a SUPER D elected we just throw up hands and quit. (you did vote for nader back when, didn’t you?)
I’m not from Indiana, but if I were I’d be writing Mr. Bayh, as I’m sure some Hoosiers are – he should feel the pressure from his constituents, as should the others.
That’s not enough though, to blind me to the reality of which states these guys are from, and what it’s realistic to expect of them based on who has to vote for them to put them in office.
“We” suffered through these last 8 years because no one was paying sufficient attention to the BIG PICTURE of winning elections, holding on to majorities, and drawing new voters. Dean and Axelrod changed all that, and easily gave the R’s the beatdown they deserved.
Now that “we” are finally back in the driver’s seat, it would be a dirty crying shame to get torn down and blown out because we immediately stopped paying attention to that BIG PICTURE, and went back to fussing like kids about who’s the most cool, and who’s talking behind who’s back and who’s just a this or a that or a whogivesaflyinfuk TRIVIAL stuff.
This Blue Dog action is TRIVIAL STUFF.
March 18th, 2009 at 7:13 pmI always suspected that spineless wimp of a senator of mine, Casey, was one of those who were willing to sell out the president but only if he can hide behind someone’s skirts.
Back in 2006, I said any idiot could beat Santorum and Casey proved my point.
He will be hearing from me tomorrow and I’m sending out an email to my “peeps” here in eastern PA to get the phone lines burning.
Between Specter and Casey, Pennsylvania doesn’t have much to be proud of there in the senate.
PEACE
March 18th, 2009 at 7:18 pmI’m glad Think Progress is following the Blue Dog thing. I’m of a few minds about them. I agree with Tom that there’s some regional reality, and no one wants the GOP there (or back, maybe). That’s the very slow incrementalist side of me.
But I also think they got elected for a reason, and that’s because people wanted change. The centrist faction of the Democratic party, from my view, doesn’t have that idea down, and they need to get on board. Hell, I don’t think the President still has that idea down, but I think Spencers mom is onto something by putting a GREAT DEAL of pressure on all of these people we elected to get some change. The populist outrage didn’t stop in November, and what we’re seeing with the AIG business is that we have real power to keep these politicians in line!
March 18th, 2009 at 7:32 pmkaty (#7) said:
“…and claire mccaskil??? unless she’s there to baby sit and keep an eye on things, that’s a very disappointing item…”
my sentiments, too…i was bummed when i saw her name on the list
March 18th, 2009 at 7:47 pm34. tombaker Says:
MY what?? You know me better than that Hanshiro.
No, I don’t know you tom, but I do comprehend english:
3.tombaker Says: As long as we overreact to the news, we’ll be serving Newt’s purposes to a T, so knock youselves out, I guess. Hey R’s – watch us blow it through internal hissypitching!! We can do it faster!!!
This Blue Dog action is TRIVIAL STUFF.
No, it isn’t, tom. Your idea of ‘big picture’ is based on engineering and making promises, not keeping promises. The reason the parties keep changing places is not poor strategy, but poor performance. If the dems kept their word, they would keep the office.
You notice most great products don’t advertise? They don’t have to, because they are great products.
“We” suffered through these last 8 years because no one was paying sufficient attention to the BIG PICTURE of winning elections, holding on to majorities, and drawing new voters.
No, we suffered through 8 years because of a monstrously complicit MSM, and the perpetuation and culpability of a spineless dem minority who rubber-stamped everything bush threw their way.
Now Obama promises change, running against the worst presidential administration in U.S. history and a republican party in shambles. Obama’s voluteers made a difference, but he’s not going to stay there by excusing telecoms, flip-flopping on offshore drilling and covering up bush’s lies and denying detainees due process. Nor will he remain by having Geithner pushing for AIG bonuses.
Now the dems start a club for conservative members to, ostensibly, cash in on corporate lobbying and position themselves to extort power or they’ll vote as-a-block. (Something they were not sent to congress to do, btw…) So much for the “change” we were promised. Oh, and how about the bush state secrets policy that Obama wants to perpetuate?
So you reply with the tired, “don’t throw out the good ‘cuz it isn’t perfect,” talking point. Somehow in your mind, a representative doing the job he was sent to Washington to do would qualify him as a ‘SUPER D.’ Somehow, in your mind, constituents demanding their representatives do the job they were sent to Washington to do would qualify them as over-reactive and much ado about nothing.
Let’s not upset the dem master plan of a majority, even though they aren’t keeping their promises, acquiescing to the republicans still (remember the pointless stimulus concessions?) and generally selling us a bill of goods, only to concede to corporate interests once in power. Not appetizing.
(Oh, and the revealingly lame attempt, twice, to frame my justifiable dissent as some sort of ‘fringe-Nader-etc.’ strawman reinforces the weakness of your position when you can’t defend your point without the fallacy of ad hominem.)
Restricting criticism and tacit appeasing those who are not doing the job they promised and were sent to Washington to do should, rightly, be attacked for it; make no mistake, to allow games and corrupt shenanigans to continue unabated in order to hold power will get you little more than corrupt power.
That’s why the dems lost the congress to begin with…games like this.
March 18th, 2009 at 8:15 pmsince when did restraint become so reckless.
March 18th, 2009 at 8:19 pmsince when did restraint become so reckless.
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March 18th, 2009 at 8:26 pmEver since Peewee told Dottie that he was a rebel, a loner, a laugh in the face of death…
live in the razor’s edge…
March 18th, 2009 at 8:30 pmON! Damnit. I hate when I f up my own set ups
March 18th, 2009 at 8:30 pmhanshiro. we are ideologically very different, but I agree that the Obama administration continuing many of the Bush policies.
I only believe that those in power, Bush and now Obama, take the positions they do, because they make sense when they consider the information available to them.
I’m sure you believe there is something else at work.
What is the motivation for Obama to carry on much of what progressives hated about Bush?
Bush had low approval. Obama great support. With a Democratically controlled Congress. It should be a no-brainer for Obama to overturn pretty much everything.
March 18th, 2009 at 8:31 pmHere is the message that I sent to Sen. Klobuchar through her web page: (http://klobuchar.senate.gov/contactamy.cfm )
Senator Klobuchar,
I have read online ( http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/18/bayhs-four-secret-sens/#comments ) that you may be one of Senator Evan Bayh’s group of “Moderate Dems.” If so I would like to say that I do not agree with the idea of forming and participating in this group. We have a new President; we have Democratic leadership in the Senate and House. We do not need another voting block within the Democratic Party that tries to wield power over what the President and the leadership try to accomplish. Please do not participate in this group. President Obama has made extraordinary efforts to work with both the Democratic and Republican leadership in Congress. There is no reason for Senator Bayh and his group to grope for power. I can’t imagine feeling good about voting for a Democratic Senator who is a member of this group. I did vote for you in 2006. Please do not let me down.
March 18th, 2009 at 8:34 pmdbadass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKLizztikRk
March 18th, 2009 at 8:41 pmCZ-1: thanks for doing that…
March 18th, 2009 at 9:06 pmchat
March 18th, 2009 at 9:07 pmchat
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weird porn link…
You should know me Hanshiro – I think many do – I’ve been posting here for 5 years. You’ll generally find me somewhere just to the Left of Dennis Kucinich.
I’m also familiar with your posts, and have often recommended them, because you’re a smart guy with a lot of knowledge and I agree with your politics. I am on the same side as you, even if you don’t think so today.
That being said;
If you’re a Hoosier who voted for Bayh, then you’ve got every right to take it to him directly. If not, then why are you talking like you specifically sent him to DC with explicit instructions from you on what to do/not do there?
The idea of Congresspeople grouping up into ad hoc caucuses is nothing new or unusual. That’s partly why I’m just not alarmed about the fact that these guys are doing it.
This particular ad hoc caucus has accomplished a pretty awkward public introduction of itself. I can see how/why – they are from Red States, where R’s are typically elected, but they know that when it comes time to vote on legislation everyone concerned will know where they’re at. There will still be plenty of ways to ensure they are on-board when it counts most.
What important Obama intitiative has been scuttled by this ad hoc caucus of Congressional D’s?
I can’t think of any offhand. Doesn’t mean I don’t think we shouldn’t keep an eye on them or apply pressure to them. Also doesn’t mean I think they can simply be eliminated and replaced with anyone better right now, or that I’d just as soon see their seats go back to the R’s.
What I am concerned about, for important reasons, is the Left’s capacity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, which has happened WAY too much in the past.
I don’t know how old you are, but I’m tired of getting the shaft from R’s because we can’t keep enough D’s in office long enough – I’ll trade perfection for a little relief before I’m too F’in old to care.
March 18th, 2009 at 9:20 pm>since when did restraint become so reckless.
when your going 200 miles an hour and about to head over a cliff after the idiot driving the car for the past 8 years jumped out of the passenger sear, its not really prudent to just gently tap the breaks…
again, you supported people who have zero credibility when it comes to the “restraint” mantra, so pick another motto, because the one you have is hopelessly lost in the depths of hipocracy…even if you claim to disagree with the bush and republican mafias decisions and gross spending excesses, you supported these people, so you cant selectively disown their disastrous idealogy simply by saying “well i disagreed with them”
March 18th, 2009 at 9:49 pmThis is a shame. Instead of trying to unite the Democratic party, Bayh is trying to cause a split. And if what they were doing was right then the other turncoats would reveal their names and purpose for joining this clique! It’s about political grandstanding – they’re no better than Can’t Cantor and Bonehead Boehner.
March 18th, 2009 at 9:52 pmOh, no, not Amy! Please, God, not Amy! Franken will have to talk some sense into her, IF this is true, which I doubt.
March 18th, 2009 at 9:53 pmWhat do you mean not Amy? I would not be surprised if Amy attended these meetings. Remember, she helped pass the FISA legislation that essentially gave the phone companies immunity. She will not appear on some Minnesota talk radio shows because they have asked her to explain her vote which she will not.
March 18th, 2009 at 10:08 pmIt astounds me that these congressmen don’t understand that next year, they will be up for re-election…
That list will definitely come back and bite them in their blue dog asses
The American people do not need to deal with a bunch of “democratic” traitors…we have enough on our plates.
March 18th, 2009 at 10:10 pmFrom Evan Bayh’s website: Leading the new group are Democratic Senators Evan Bayh of Indiana, Tom Carper of Delaware and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas. Both Senators Bayh and Carper were successful governors before coming to the Senate. Senators Lincoln and Carper bring bicameral experience to the group as former members of the House of Representatives. All three leaders are honorary co-chairs of Third Way, a progressive Democratic policy group, and Senators Bayh and Carper have led the centrist Democratic Leadership Council.
The DLC? No need to say anymore!!!
March 18th, 2009 at 10:40 pmwasn’t bayh on obama’s list of the VP contenders?
could this be sour grapes?
March 18th, 2009 at 11:02 pmCorporaDemocrats and Repugnicants in the Senate are a majority, albeit not a filibuster proof one.
March 19th, 2009 at 12:03 amSen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) up again in 2010? Anyone going to be running against him?
March 19th, 2009 at 7:21 amMarie say:
You hate Republican lockstep, so any Dem deviance from the party line has to be dissention as opposed to simple disagreement? In what manner could they have expressed their disagreement that would have been acceptable? Is the act of joining with like minded people the problem? That’s what we do in political parties. Having a group within a group is hardly dissention.
March 19th, 2009 at 7:59 amchoco says:
“…you supported these people…”
By that logic, the folks who voted for the Blue Dogs have no right to complain about this because they voted for them. The same goes for those who voted for the Dems who voted for telecom immunity. ;)
March 19th, 2009 at 8:04 am55. moonsha Says:
“The DLC? No need to say anymore!!!”
I fully agree. The majority of these Senators are current members of the DLC, including Conrad and Prior. They are not “Blue Dogs”. By calling them “Blue Dogs” (though the thread says “Blue Dog-Style Coalition”) the point gets missed that many members of the Obama Administration are members of the DLC. And recently Obama was said to have called himself a “New Democratic” when meeting with the “New Democrat Coalition”, the House version of the DLC. Whether Obama was or wasn’t a member of the DLC has been a debate since the primary.
http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=85&subid=900184&contentid=254931
March 19th, 2009 at 12:38 pmI forgot to add the other link regarding my comment, “Whether Obama was or wasn’t a member of the DLC has been a debate since the primary.”
http://www.blackcommentator.com/48/48_cover.html
March 19th, 2009 at 12:52 pmIndiana is the Alabama of the North. What is with that state? They produce a good flow of medium to hard right Republicans but more than their share of sell out, back stabbing democrats.
Lee Hamilton better get on the stick or he will lose his “I will sell out and bow to the republicans first” title. You know Lee, the one they plugged into the 911 commission because they knew he would never stand up and do what was right because he’s a spineless worm. All he’d do was help the Bush traitors cover their crimes which he did masterful job of….
From Parry on the Iran Contra investigations
March 19th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
I appreciate these Republicans coming out of the closet before the next election cycle or two.
Just when Americans thought they had done what was needed to take our country back from the corporate oligarchy, these stumbling blocks decide to show themselves.
This makes it a lot easier to focus on who to boot out at the polls next time.
We still have work to do fellow progressives.
March 19th, 2009 at 9:47 pm