As Starbucks, others seek Employee Free Choice compromise, anti-union lobby stands in the way.
As Starbucks, others seek Employee Free Choice compromise, anti-union lobby stands in the way.
The Wall Street Journal reports today that Costco Wholesale Corp., Starbucks Corp. and Whole Foods Market Inc. are seeking to compromise with union groups to support a modified version of the Employee Free Choice Act. The compromise would allow a union to be formed if 70 percent — instead of the current bill’s 50 percent proposal — sign a card favoring unionization. However, the anti-union lobby refuses to back the deal:
“These huge companies are apparently willing to sell out hundreds of thousands of small ones under the guise of making some phony and misguided compromise with Big Labor,” Mix said in a statement. “We believe we have this draconian bill defeated outright, so these actions may well lead to the bill’s passage.”
The Workforce Fairness Institute’s (WFI) Danny Diaz slammed the proposal in his morning e-mail, Politico reports, calling it a “non-starter” and “even worse” for workers. WFI’s executive director Katie Packer said, “Calling a proposal which exposes 70% of employees to intimidation instead of 50% a ‘compromise’ is beyond absurd.”
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March 21st, 2009 at 3:08 pmRun and hide, big dogs.
March 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pmThe compromise would allow a union to be formed if 70 percent — instead of the current bill’s 50 percent proposal — sign a card favoring unionization.
Isn’t that kind of like the Senate filibuster rules, where sixty Senators are needed to do something that a simple majority wants? And how’s that been working out for the country? This new plan sounds very undemocratic, and unions are supposed to be about democracy.
March 21st, 2009 at 3:19 pmAnother screwjob on the Middle Class. Employees get the shaft from the Big Dogs again.
NO DEAL!
March 21st, 2009 at 3:34 pm.
As a former partner/store mamager of Starbucks, I am shocked that they even considered a proposal to allow unionization in US stores. Back in 2000, there was a push internally to allow talk of unionization, at the same time the Canadian stores passed unionization. I clearly remember meetings being conducted to educate US store managers on how to avoid workplace conversations and union in store pamphleting.
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March 21st, 2009 at 3:35 pmProud is blathering again.
March 21st, 2009 at 3:46 pmProud, if you ever manage to get and keep a job, let us know how it goes for you.
March 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pmFlipping burgers at MickeyD’s sort of counts.
March 21st, 2009 at 3:48 pm70%? Phuck that!!
Go to hell!!!
50.00001% a$$holes. Period.
March 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pmI’m with y’all on this one – NO DEAL!
March 21st, 2009 at 4:00 pmSo they would only have to buy off or intimidate 31% to keep out the union? Sounds like about what they have now. Any shop you go into will have about 30% management pets already.
Sooner or later this bill will pass as is. No need to compromise.
March 21st, 2009 at 4:09 pmRonald Reagan’s union-busting, together with his “trickle down” economics are two key factors that have rolled our economy down this slippery slope. Strengthening unions and rewarding the workers who create the wealth with a legitimate share while lowering the obscene profiteering by senior managers WILL help us to get the economy back on track and in a sustainable mode. We need to level the playing field for workers by enabling workers to organize!
March 21st, 2009 at 4:11 pmNo one said proud of what yet… Should I. Starbucks is about as lame as Applebees, What sort of dumbass thinks culture can be franchised?
March 21st, 2009 at 4:22 pmWell I worked for GM and I can say with certainty that bad management is the problem not the unions. UAW has had to sacrifice as much as the rank and file in this “world economy”. They do what they can for the people and even try to save management from themselves. So many people just don’t understand that their wages and benefits today are because of what unions have fought over for years. It will be just like the start of the industrial age if unions disappear from this country.
March 21st, 2009 at 4:36 pm#6 Proud (of what I don’t know)
You are stupid. You don’t know sh|t about unions. You are a troll bastard to the core!!
And yes I am calling you names because I’m ridiculing you. I’m practicing my free speech rights, right? Can I speak freely or are you going to whine about it??? Be consistant!!! I can say this or you are going to keep whining??? Right???
When you change out of your piss soaked clothes, wipe the snot from your nose, pick your knuckles up off the ground and get a life let us know. Otherwise, you’re of no help in this country!!
Maybe you should STFU…go away…just saying…??
March 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pmProud Says:
Yes,lets unionize every business, I have been so impressed with the UAW and how they are putting the automakers in their place. by agreeing to wage concessions, work rule changes, days off etc, they are weak and have caved to every demand by the big three.
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40 hr work week.
Overtime.
Pensions.
Health plans.
Raising the prevailing wages of non-union workers.
Safety standards on the job.
Yeah… unions haven’t done an F-in’ THING for workers. Ever.
Dang… and I fergot ta call any names, too…
March 21st, 2009 at 4:48 pmWait a minute. I thought the problem was the “secret ballot” not the percentage of employees needed to form a union.
This is really getting out of hand. Why are not the proponents of the EFC putting out ads to counteract the right wing babble about taking away the secret ballot. Especially when the RNC won’t allow secret ballots. That would make a great advertisement. How about it moveon?
From Daily Kos:
March 21st, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Big labor is hell of a lot better than the Big Lazies screwing them over time & again.
It’s quite laughable, really — using “Big” and “Labor” as hit words.
What trip or what commute would we be making without the hard work of these unionized auto companies, Proud of living in the basement?
The workers were handed the business model of making Hummers and other cars that weren’t the future, and the right-wing extremist whores are always quick to defend the losers — the higher ups who can’t strategize properly.
March 21st, 2009 at 4:51 pmProud Says:
Yes,lets unionize every business, I have been so impressed with the UAW and how they are putting the automakers in their place.
So you think it would have been a good thing for the unions to “put the automakers in their place” and the result being a million union workers without a job. That makes a lot of sense, but since we are talking to a troll, what do you expect.
March 21st, 2009 at 4:53 pmFrankly I’m surprised to see Costco involved in this. Costco has, from the beginning, paid a very good living wage to their employees, way more than competing unionized companies. Has Costco recently changed ownership or something? On the other hand, Costco has consistently supported progressive causes, so maybe they see this as their way of helping.
March 21st, 2009 at 4:55 pmProud Says:
Dr Hussein, Please stick to the facts if you are able. Name calling just shows your ignorance.
No, name-calling is part of our free speech rights to make fun of lame trolls like you. Besides, if I had the inclination I bet I could go back and find times where you called people names.
March 21st, 2009 at 4:57 pmProud Says:
I see the name calling has begun, but of course you must resort to that since you are unable to challenge facts. Please list how many plants the UAW has managed to save in the past five years. I guess then during these hard times all unions will stop charging dues to the workers, they are there to support the workers after all.
Perhaps you can tell us how unions can save automobile plants. That would be a good start because we weren’t aware that the unions had the ability to countermand the bad business decisions corporate management at auto companies have made. We were also not aware that unions have the power to control how our economy goes, especially when we have a Republican’t administration determined to run our economy off a cliff.
So, please tell us where unions get these powers you think they have.
March 21st, 2009 at 4:59 pmBTW Proud, you are aware, aren’t you, that union wages only compromises 10% of the cost of a vehicle.
March 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pmLooks like Proud ran off when people started asking him real questions he couldn’t answer. Typical troll.
March 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pmProud. As in proud of America? Proud that America stands for something? Like worker rights? Or proud that a very small portion of society likes the idea that they can hold workers in virtual slavery?
Where is your pride, Proud?
March 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pmSpeaking of ignorance, unions are a component, Proud.
The job creation comes through investment in infrastructure, education, creating entrepreneurial minds and the platform for which they work their magic. Please, don’t worry, the deep-red states have never really been good at job creation anyway.
Unions make clear that productivity on a large scale won’t go without the proper rewards. It makes clear that labor is never an entitlement. It makes clear that ideas that have broad sway over the American populace can never be executed with just a few people who stand to benefit. Many people are part of the story and should reap a fair benefit, too.
Unions work, and the decline in union influence since the 80s having had the effect of badgering the middle class proves it.
If a company doesn’t want a union on their back, they should do things the American way — treat their employees with dignity in respect as if it’s second nature.
March 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pmCome on, Proud, I bought you once, I can do it again.
March 21st, 2009 at 5:05 pmFlipped by the joke that is Fixed News. A talking head exclaimed, “They don’t have this money!,” referring to the bill that would replenish sham bonuses to the treasury by taxing them at 90% for people earning $125,000+ (single) / $250,000+ (combined).
Standing up for the little guy and being a steward for the taxpayer, I see.
March 21st, 2009 at 5:14 pmEh, Proud’s clump of shit will collect flies, as usual.
March 21st, 2009 at 5:16 pmProud to be an American.
Bring home a paycheck to support your family.
Or yourself.
Talk it up, Proud.
March 21st, 2009 at 5:17 pmCome on, Proud, tell us how your little Republican buddies are ‘proud’ of how they support the American worker who is the very heart and soul of the American economy.
Oh wait, their job got shipped over to China….my bad.
March 21st, 2009 at 5:19 pmOr maybe you can tell us how the EFCA legislation will ‘take away their rights’ to a secret ballot? Oh, but the WP just wrote that wasn’t so…my bad
March 21st, 2009 at 5:22 pmOr maybe how paying bonuses to people who can’t do their job is guaranteed because of contracts. Yeah….oh wait, maybe there might have been performance clauses, like the company wasn’t on the verge of bankruptcy…my bad.
March 21st, 2009 at 5:23 pmOr, maybe, Proud you are a delusional piece of crap who sold his pitiful soul for no apparent reason and now you are regretting the decision?
Which of the previous is true.
We’d vote but you’d lose, Proud.
March 21st, 2009 at 5:27 pmAnd still the management of those companies can’t make their business models work.
Sad. Really sad.
March 21st, 2009 at 5:48 pmThis may be just the most stupid, moronic comment ever posted at TP:
Very sad and pathetic. Phuck you Prud!
March 21st, 2009 at 6:29 pmSo I guess you decided you’d join the “no facts” party, huh?
Is this kind of like Michael Steele’s claim that “in the history of mankind and womankind, government — federal, state or local — has never created one job.”
Sometimes you guys make it too easy.
What a stupid suggestion. Union dues fund relief programs for laid-off workers, including health coverage, among other purposes. The idea of those with jobs helping out their less fortunate brothers is lost on you, obviously, but that’s not surprising. You are a right-winger, after all.
March 21st, 2009 at 6:32 pmTake the money from the Wall Street Gangsters and give it directly to the people. Time for a reverse income tax; rather them give money to the government to give to the banking gangsters, give the money to the people. Let the usurious bankers start from zero and form new well-regulated banks.
March 21st, 2009 at 6:47 pmThis is just a stupid statement.
People who have jobs are under no greater hardships than they were before the Bush Depression hit. There are, however, greater numbers of unemployed union members who require not just relief services by also job placement assistance and training opportunities.There is no practical reason to “suspend union dues” and it would leave the union’s programs and activities underfunded.
This is the same kind of idiocy that led John McCain to push for a “gas tax holiday” even though it would leave highway and infrastructure maintenance underfunded.
That’s not what I think of as conservative.
March 21st, 2009 at 6:54 pmBy-pass the lobbies and start a reverse income tax. If the congresscritters do not support it, vote them out. Let’s end the system of bribery.
March 21st, 2009 at 7:03 pmHa! A reverse income tax (money to the people, not the corporations) will end the Bush Depression.
March 21st, 2009 at 7:06 pmHa! A reverse income tax will tell the bribsters (the corporate lobbies) to STFU. If Congress does not like it, let them change or vote them out. Tell Congress to STFU by voting them out.
March 21st, 2009 at 7:11 pmWorkers must stand fast united and militant. They have nothing politically-economically in common with their Masterclass exploiters who rob them of the fruits of their labor.
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March 21st, 2009 at 7:13 pmThe bucks are the real stars at Starbucks… The profits in the pockets of the owners and stockholders; screw the workers; do anything and everything to slow down or stop workers from unionizing and getting a fair shake in the workplace.
Corporations are evil.
March 21st, 2009 at 7:24 pmProud you are a liar and a fool and an ignorant punk. I have a good life largely because I have a good union job. The union allows the workering class to band together to use OUR only advantage the democratic advantage of our numbers to push OUR power. Fighting back against the power of corporations that care about nothing but profits. You are a sychophantic piece of garbage and a traitor to the PEOPLE. It is because of UNIONS that we have a 40hr workweek. An end to child labor, safe workplaces, pensions, healthcare, vacations, overtime and vitually every advantage workers HAVE in this country. You dont care about your FAMILY or your fellow man. Money is your GOD and the right to MAKE as much money as possible is all you care about. Make sure your rich boss is able to finance that third home in Aspen. Whether or not you can feed your family isnt nearly as important as kissing that rich butt.
March 21st, 2009 at 9:03 pmProud Says: 14
You are a liar. You didnt put any facts in your post. You ranted your delusions and LIES. You spewed what you have been programmed to believe. Let me give you a clue about facts they arent whatever LIE Rush told you to believe last night. Your ignorance and baseless assertions arent facts. Things dont become FACTS by virtue of you posting them, or believing them because you were TOLD to. What a punk you are.
March 21st, 2009 at 9:06 pmProud Says:
There is no such thing as a Democrat party you ignorant cowardly PUNK. Since you are so stupid you dont even know the name of the largest political party in America you are too stupid to be taken seriously. As for you embarassing butt kissing of power. You disgust me
March 21st, 2009 at 9:09 pmProud Says:
You ignorant brainwashed coward. No is going to take your suggestion that OUR side unilaterally disarm seriously. I mean YOU are stupid enough to believe whatever YOU are told but then again you are stupider than the average retarded bonobo ape. We arent nearly as ignorant as you.
March 21st, 2009 at 9:12 pmSince Proud and his ilk love to distort our positions with their flimsy straw man arguments, let’s do the same…
Proud, do you support rolling back all the gains that unions have achieved for workers? Do you support an end to the 40-day work-week, no worker’s compensation, CHILD labor, no pensions, no healthcare, etc.?
March 21st, 2009 at 9:21 pmThat statemnt is an out an out lie and factually incorrect.
I would like to know how many posters here
A: Actually work for a unionized business and
B: Have actually taken business and econ courses so you would know what makes an economy strong versus what doesnt.
I bet there are more A’s then B’s.
By the way wasnt Hoffa a union boss? I dont know why anyone here would trust a union these days. Look at the Big3, unions have stifled business and they should all be in bankruptcy, especially Chrysler. Instead, the UAW has forced honest hard working Americans to subsidize their corruption and greed. Its no surprise that democrats bailed the Big 3 out, because in reality they were bailing the unions out. The Unions are a powerful arm of the Democratic party, so of course they get preferential treatment verses none for us poor slobs working for a small business.
You elitist, think you are special libs really make me weep for America..and thanks dems for picking and chosing what businesses and industries you think should get a bailout, who should get a tax break and what bus/industry should have the bureaucratic stick shoved up there asses. Econ101 always taught me the market makes those choices. Now thanks to Obama, Reid, and Pelosi, they do!
March 21st, 2009 at 9:30 pmBefore we deal with the rest of your impeccably articulated and sourced screed, I think we should settle one thing:
what is your definition of “elitist”?
(By the way, I am both a union member and took business and econ classes in the course of receiving my bachelor’s degree. For what it’s worth.)
March 21st, 2009 at 9:33 pmYeah, but benefits(esp health) acrue for approx 50% of the cost of the vehicle. Hopefully that has changed.
Seriously folks, stop taking your talking points from the Democratic playbook or website you all herd too.
Heres an econ lesson for you business hating liberals.
Foreign Car Companies labor rates are around $50 an hour.
The Big3’s labor rates are $70 an hour.
Question: Who do you think is more viable and why?
Its pretty easy really. You dont even need any business accumen to figure it out.
The latter needed a taxpayer bailout to stay in business and the former didnt. The former also is non-union and doesnt pay people $40 plus an hour to turn a screw.
As for unions, they did serve a purpose, with the media cow-towing to any injustice, I just dont see the need for them anymore. Unions are like leeches, they couldnt survive without other business and they just get in the way of running a profitable business.
March 21st, 2009 at 9:51 pmAlso, what does Starbucks need a union for? The benefits and wages that they give to even the most basic of employee is so much that it would make any leftwinger cry for joy.
deeznutz?
“Elitist”?
The only reason i ask is that it seems a little counter-intuitive to call those who support unions and union membership “elitist”, no?
Unless your definition differs from mine, I guess.
March 21st, 2009 at 9:54 pmEugeneDebs says:
True.
BUT, except for running businesses into the ground. What have unions done for anyone lately?
Nothing. Unions are like dinosaurs, they had their time in the sun but now its time for there extinction.
BTW, MS Debs, take a chill pill. Stop sterotyping all businesses and industries. Your hate makes you to subjective and you wouldnt know truth if it came up and grabbed you by the cheeks.
March 21st, 2009 at 10:04 pmdezznutz?
“Elitist”?
I realize there are a lot of folks who aren’t here right now that you have to reply to, but when you get a chance…
March 21st, 2009 at 10:06 pm
March 21st, 2009 at 10:08 pmlink
You’re right, we can’t have that. Good thing you don’t stereotype all unions, or else you would have lost some credibility there.
March 21st, 2009 at 10:08 pmPeople who are against union organization need to read up a little history and see what working was like before there were unions.
March 21st, 2009 at 10:13 pmI’m a member of the SEIU.
Whaddyathink, dezznutz1001? Did all those banksters and hedge fund managers take economic classes to know what makes an economy strong?
March 21st, 2009 at 10:17 pmBut what us “elitist thinkwe are special” libs fail to unnerstand, Marie, is that people are fundamentally different now then they were a century ago. Nowadays employers wouldn’t think of exploiting workers like they used to do.
March 21st, 2009 at 10:18 pmWho I think is an Elitist – anyone who thinks their life situation makes them more special or more important than someone else.
The Super Rich is usually what people mean, but the rich can be liberal or conservative…I mentioned above that gvt now is deciding what businesses get taxpayer dollars and who doesnt. Why is Big 3 union labor more special than non-union?
I read around Christmas a warning e-mail about hundreds of retail stores like Sharper Image, etc going out of business and to not buy gift cards from them.
Now those retail industries provide jobs for millions and by them going out of business that affects the suppliers they buy from, who they by from, etc. This is basically the same argument Congress used to justify these bailouts.
It is elitist to say that one should be bailed out and helped by the government and who shouldnt. The market should make those decisions. NOT BIG GOVERNMENT. This Big Gvt we have plays favorites, that is elitist and wrong.
Now for those of you who think elitist is the super rich you could be right, but it depends on the character of the person and the ethics of the business. Just remember, when Clinton and the Democratic Congress passed the largest tax increase in our nations history, they didnt increase taxes on tv and movie stars or on professional athletes. They were exempt. If any “groups” are elitist it is most assuredly them…but movie stars and athletes are on TV all the time and the Dems couldnt be caught having them say bad things about them on live television….then I read an article in which Ben Affleck bashes Bush for saving him a million dollars due to his tax cuts…
I swear Im living in bizzaro world. Up is down and down is up…Oops gotta go, the cats stuck on the ceiling again
March 21st, 2009 at 10:26 pmI see now. You don’t really know what “elitist” means. That’s why you wield it as you do — like an all-purpose slur.
In fact, dezznutz, “elitist” actually means one who believes in rule by “an elite”. It doesn’t mean that you think your group is better than another. That’s something closer to arrogance. “Elitism” essentially the opposite of democratic rule. Monarchy, for instance, is a form of elitism.
Taking the true definition of the term, it’s pretty clear how absurd it was during the presidential campaign for Republicans to claim that Obama, a biracial son of a single mother, was the “elitist” and the son and grandson of admirals and husband of an heiress was the populist.
But you guys tried it anyway.
Yeah, we see that a lot with conservatives. Most of ‘em don’t even notice, though.
March 21st, 2009 at 10:47 pmAs a former union organizer, I think this proposal is actually reasonable. There should be a higher threshold if elections are to be bypassed, although 70 per cent might be a little high, especially since some members who might prefer a union might not sign the card.
March 21st, 2009 at 10:54 pmAnyone who believes that “the free market” will provide the best solutions to our problems is living in a fantasy world. And in that fantasy world, corporations have no morality one way or the other. They are neither good nor evil, they just are. They will acknowledge that humans are flawed and can’t be trusted, but somehow they feel that we can trust corporations to make our lives better. What they conveniently forget is that corporations are run by humans, who are flawed and can’t be trusted.
The Free Market will not find the “best” solutions, only the most profitable ones. But, of course, a money-loving capitalist thinks that money is the only thing that matters in life and has no rational basis for deciding what is “best” and what isn’t. So, naturally, he would think that the “best” solutions are the most profitable, because making a profit is more important to him than actually doing anything good.
People like this destroy civilizations.
March 22nd, 2009 at 12:14 amAs an airline worker I fall under the Railway Labor act, also as a Northwest Airlines/Delta employee I see a big reason for the EFCA.While going thru this merger Delta management has continuously been giving anti union/union busting meetings daily in the Delta`s non-union shops across the country.They have told people throughout the system that the EFCA takes away our right to a secret vote, which it does not.Our country`s future generations of labor need the EFCA to keep their middle class life we currently have.
The U.S. unionized workers wages fall to 17th out of 20th with our top 20 trading partners,we are also 2nd from the bottom in unionized members while the other 18 trading partners enjoy a healthy 40 percent unionized labor force but the U.S. ranks second in productivity.It`s a proven fact that health care cost and supervisory and management wages(greed) hurt our country`s competitiveness with our top 20 trade partners, though we are very productive we are not very competitive.So when these anti union people from congress and big business and the southern conservatives in their right to work states talk trash and vote no against unionizing tell them to go F themselves.Peace and solidarity a union man all the way.
March 22nd, 2009 at 12:46 amYou know, I think posters should just ignore Proud. I suspect he is on the payroll from some right-wing organization to get posters off track of the real point(s). He consistently points out the UAW. The UAW isn’t the issue, it is Republican policies that are anti-worker that go back before 1935 and restart in 1947 with the Taft-Hartley Act.
They are Republican policies of class warfare and outright warfare that started with Reagan’s open season against unions with the firing of PATCO workers.
Reagan also had the biggest tax increase on the middle class with his Social Security tax increase while cutting taxes for the rich.
It is Republican policies, with the promotion of the US Chamber of Commerce to use our taxpayer $$$ to ship American jobs overseas (then Republicans blame the unions for it).
It is Republicans like anti-labor Labor Secretary, Elaine Chao, that used American taxpayer $$$ to fund anti-union campaigns while in office and to continue to ship our jobs overseas.
It is Republican policies to allow continued harrasment and intimidation of the American workforce under the guise of “protecting the American worker.”
I don’t think it is a surprise to many here that Republicans hate fairness, honesty and a level playing field. They like to lie, cheat and steal.
March 22nd, 2009 at 7:16 amNotice how the Right (wealthy class) only needs a simple majority of 51 in the Senate, while the Left (THE PEOPLE) always needs a super majority? When it comes to Unions, they want us to have even more than a super majority (70%)of the people they intend to intimidate to agree before ALLOWING them to organize. One might ask; why not 90% or even 100%? YOU AND I DO NOT NEED THEIR PERMISSION!!!!!! STOP WORKING! STOP PAYING TAXES! FIRE YOUR CONGRESS MEMBER! AND, then let’s start talking about fair labor practices and living wages in the LAND OF THE FREE!!!!!!.
March 22nd, 2009 at 8:56 amwordless.
March 22nd, 2009 at 12:11 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Doesn’t look like you got an answer. I was surprised to see Costco’s name there as well. I’ll have to dig a little bit. Costco is one of the FEW places I frequent specifically because of who they are and support, the wages paid to their employees and benefit packages.
March 22nd, 2009 at 2:46 pmdezznutz1001 Says:
BUT, except for running businesses into the ground. What have unions done for anyone lately?
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Provided good middle class jobs, wages and job security.
Nothing. Unions are like dinosaurs, they had their time in the sun but now its time for there extinction.
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You can bite me. YOUR stupidity makes you whine while you simultaneously kiss ass to power. I KNOW the truth moron. I lIVE IT. I am not stereotyping anything you are just too stupid to understand the dynamics at play. The bussiness of bussiness is to maximize profits you idiot. THAT is what they teach at business school THAT is what they are SUPPOSED TO DO. They look out for their stockholders NOT because they are evil but because that is how they are structured. IF after record profits a CEO decided to share the wealth gave his people raises and better benifits the board of directors would FIRE HIM and replace him with someone who would maximize profits because THAT IS WHAT BUSINESS IS SUPPOSED TO DO. It isnt my fault this obvious FACT is to complicated for your substandard brain you MORON. I dont hate business. I just want a FAIR share of the fruits of my labor and if workers dont band together they will NEVER GET THAT. I guess you are too ignorant to see that for the last thirty years while union power has waned corporate profits have SKYROCKETED at the same time wages have been stagnant. All wealth is created by those who work. NONE by buying and selling or by shareholders. It isnt too much to ask that workers get their fair share of the wealth THEY CREATE. Feel free to hitch your wagon to asskissing. For me I say we band toghether and DEMAND what is fair. Power conceded NOTHING without a demand. You give YOUR demands all by yourself and see how THAT works out for ya while in my union WE get a fair return on our labor.
March 23rd, 2009 at 5:30 amI wonder if those people who favor abolishing the secret ballot in union balloting would also favor abolishing the secret ballot in political elections? If not, why not?
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:25 pmWealth is created primarily by intellect and capital, not by labor. Laborers are interchangeable. The creative intellect is unique and is the source of all wealth.
March 23rd, 2009 at 9:29 pmOrganized labor has bankrupted and sent offshore every major industry in this nation. With a proven record of corruption and cronyism these “unions” are no better than the businesses that you liberal freaks are ranting about. Less government, less intervention let the markets and the people rule not the LOSERS in DC.
March 23rd, 2009 at 10:23 pm