Al Gore to rally action around climate change with new book.
By on Mar 24th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Al Gore to rally action around climate change with new book.
Today, Al Gore announced that he will be publishing a new book, “Our Choice,” set to be released on Nov. 3, 2009. In a press release put out by his publisher, Rodale, Gore said:
An Inconvenient Truth reached millions of people with the message that the climate crisis is threatening the future of human civilization and that it must and can be solved. Now that the need for urgent action is even clearer with the alarming new findings of the last three years, it is time for a comprehensive global plan that actually solves the climate crisis. Our Choice will answer that call.
As with “An Inconvenient Truth,” Gore will donate 100 percent of the proceeds from his new book to the Alliance for Climate Protection.
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Oooh…I wonder how long before the wingnuts go apoplectic over a new Al Gore book.
3…2…1. Yeah, about now.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:53 pmGrab yer sunglasses – the glare from the foil hats is going to be unbearable.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:58 pmAmazing how Dems use their time after office doing things for the planet and for people to the extent that they are recognized with Nobel Peace Prizes, while the GOP ex-officers just go back to whoring in the private sector. And yet the Reich somehow feels these are the people that have captured the moral high ground.
Good work, President Gore (I will always think of him as such, inasmuch as he was actually elected president)
March 24th, 2009 at 12:59 pmGood one tombaker
March 24th, 2009 at 12:59 pmAl Gore should be sleeping under the stars the phoney SOB.
/troll
March 24th, 2009 at 12:59 pmWhy is it when Democratic Leaders who leave office get Kudos for their Charitable contributions and Repugs like Georgie Boy strut around trying to raise dough to enrich themselves? Lets see, Carters Nobel peace Prize and Houses for humanity, Gores Nobel Prize and excellant work on the environment, Clinton’s many charities. Seems like Repugs do it for the money.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:02 pmYep, here they are Ms. Joanne. Right on schedule and just as dumb as you remembered…
March 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pmModerate@3, Sorry, I didn’t see your post. I didn’t want to swipe your thunder. I see we are thinking the same thing.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:05 pmno dont dew nuthin cuz thar aint nuthin badd gunna happin
March 24th, 2009 at 1:06 pmdoggie,
“I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.”
-Presidential candidate George W. Bush, Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000
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you agree,
don’t you?
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March 24th, 2009 at 1:08 pman iff sumpthin badd duz happin its jus a sunspott er sumpin
March 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pm0h mother of christ this one should really bring out the trolls..
March 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pmLook at the horizon, the earth is flat!
It’s winter, how can there be global warming?
/snark
March 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pmI think we should all sell the trolls our properties that are less than 20′ above sea level. After all, they won’t drown as they don’t believe in global warming.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pmHow can you get through to the Righties? They think the Earth is 4,000 friggin years old. Next thing they will be telling us, is the Earth is flat.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pmraynman @14, LOL! Now, me and you think on the same wavelength!
March 24th, 2009 at 1:13 pmwatchdog Says:
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Recess is over and its time for the onslaught of ignorance and stupidity from the wingnut trolls.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pmWinter’s over and its time for the onslaught of fear mongering from the reverend gore.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
I really hope you DON’T bother to teach your off-spring to swim…
March 24th, 2009 at 1:15 pmP.D.@9: No need to apologize. Notice that none of the trolls have even bothered to refute/rationalize/spin it?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:16 pmqueue the wingnut trolls saying Gore is writing a new book for the money, again, ignoring this little fact…
As with “An Inconvenient Truth,” Gore will donate 100 percent of the proceeds from his new book to the Alliance for Climate Protection.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:16 pm#18, the only legendary about you is your astounding ignorance.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:18 pmOh, for goodness sake! I’m tired of this “It’s cold outside! This is a scam!” In a matter of decades, drinkable water will be limited. I hope the Red States come up with desalinization plants or they are going to be thristy. You just can’t pray you’re troubles away.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pmtokin librul Says:
Winter’s over and its time for the onslaught of fear mongering from the reverend gore.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
I really hope you DON’T bother to teach your off-spring to swim…
As if watchdog could get a woman to bear him offspring…
March 24th, 2009 at 1:20 pmOh Boy. This is going to be a Troll extravaganza. Homophobia, science-bashing, Gore-hating, O’Reilly – stroking, all in one day. It’s not even 2 EDT yet!
I hope Pres. Obama doesn’t take his jacket off in the Oval Office today or this place will EXPLODE!
March 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pmthe climate crisis is threatening the future of human civilization
If the climate doesn’t get ‘em they’ll just nuke themselves.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pmWayne@22, Facts never get in the way for Repugs. Remember Terri Shivo? That poor brain dead woman who the Religious Right held hostage for their beliefs? Well after the autopsy, it was discovered she was totally brain dead and her brain was severly damaged. Much to the chagrin of Sen. Bill Frist. Who claimed otherwise. And he was a doctor.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:23 pmIt will always amaze me that out of a denomination known for guys like Jerry Falwell the Baptists produced Al Gore.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:23 pmThey don’t have to. Right-wing Republicans believe that doing things for the planet and for other people is foolish and dishonest. They are pissed off that there is no Nobel Prize for whoring one’s self in the private sector.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:23 pmDr. Matt, hasn’t JK been banned?
ModSquad and P.D., don’t you know that these do-gooders are just doin’ good to get the recognition? Bush is the honest one because he’s up front about being a whore.
Sigh…
PEACE
March 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pmThe Legend Says:
I guess alGore had to wait for the record freezing temps to subside……
March 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
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Um, what record freezing temperatures?
This winter was one of the warmest in recorded history:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090315092035.htm
March 24th, 2009 at 1:26 pmtbone, it’s been a busy day. We meant to get it all in before noon.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:27 pmhussien@34, But those are facts! They don’t want to hear about stinkin facts! They would do what that one Governor did at the time of the drought in Georgia. They pray!
March 24th, 2009 at 1:28 pmcd Says:
It will always amaze me that out of a denomination known for guys like Jerry Falwell the Baptists produced Al Gore.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
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And Martin Luther King, Jr. And Jimmy Carter. And many other very good people.
Let’s not fault the religion for the right-wing whackos who claim to represent it.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:30 pmTo these right-wing Republicans, nothing has any effect upon anything else. Life is just a randon series of unrelated events.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:31 pmcd Says:
It will always amaze me that out of a denomination known for guys like Jerry Falwell the Baptists produced Al Gore.
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“It’s important for us to explain to our nation that life is important. It’s not only life of babies, but it’s life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the Internet.” –George W. Bush, Arlington Heights, Ill., Oct. 24, 2000
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he’s talking to you, man.
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March 24th, 2009 at 1:32 pmWhen is Mr. Gore going to reimburse the world and purchase carbon credits to pay for all the pollution he, his family and business have personally emitted throughout his life?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:32 pmanti-tax cheat Says
And like you’r supposed to, when something in his presentation didn’t stand up to facts, Gore removed it from his presentation until more facts could be accumulated. It does nothing to refute the thousands of other facts that Gore uses in his presentation and have stood the test of time.
Much like the Bush Administration withdrew its claim that Saddam was behind 9/11, and had weapons of mass destruction… No, wait.. the Bush Administration didn’t alter their presentation when presented with facts, did they?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pmanti-tax cheat Says:
The slide has since disappeared from the show, Revkin wrote.
This was not happenstance. Pielke called Gore on his assertions. The link between manmade activity and natural disasters has not been established.
CRED, the source cited by Gore, even said so.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
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So?
What’s your point?
Gore was making one inaccurate oversimplification in an otherwise scientifically accurate lecture. When this was pointed out, he removed the inaccurate slide and change the lecture accordingly.
What’s wrong with that?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pmJohnnyOnTheSpot16 Says:
When is Mr. Gore going to reimburse the world and purchase carbon credits to pay for all the pollution he, his family and business have personally emitted throughout his life?
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here’s a napkin.
you still have a little
bull$hit around your lips.
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there ya go.
:)
March 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pmDon’t worry about it JohnnyMadeASpot. Al Gore has contributed enough money to the cause to well offset his own carbon footprint.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pmJohnny@41, Gee Johnny, when is the Bush Administration going to pay back the billions he and cronies tallyed up for these two wars? Or the obscene profits that the rich have made for the last 8 years at our exspense?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:36 pmJohnnyOnTheSpot16 Says:
When is Mr. Gore going to reimburse the world and purchase carbon credits to pay for all the pollution he, his family and business have personally emitted throughout his life?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
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He’s already done that and more with all the work he’s done disseminating the science of climate change and pushing for global action to combat it.
More to the point, when are YOU going to reimburse the world for the waste of carbon that you and YOUR family are?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:37 pmwow, another topic the trolls are uber-anxious to demonstrate their ignorance about
if right wingers weren’t such pansy cowards, they wouldn’t be so afraid of the truth
March 24th, 2009 at 1:38 pmP.D. Says:
Johnny@41, Gee Johnny, when is the Bush Administration going to pay back the billions he and cronies tallyed up for these two wars? Or the obscene profits that the rich have made for the last 8 years at our exspense?
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um, yeah, like that will happen
when johnny grows a brain.
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in other words,
not in the near future.
or probably never.
-_-
March 24th, 2009 at 1:38 pmRight-wingers love to stick their head in the proverbial sand. The fact that McCain was crushed in the last election doesn’t matter, the Repugs will deny all fact until their Party is the way of the Whigs.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:40 pmit’s good that johnny and cd run away.
people who come here and see that realize
that their case is weak and join the progressive
side of the cause. thank you johnny and cd.
…
who are the whigs?
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March 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pm***
who are the republicans?
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March 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
cd Says:
It will always amaze me that out of a denomination known for guys like Jerry Falwell the Baptists produced Al Gore.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
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And Martin Luther King, Jr. And Jimmy Carter. And many other very good people.
Let’s not fault the religion for the right-wing whackos who claim to represent it.
Good point toasterhead.
I just wish they had a minister alive today to counter act Pat Robertson & co.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pmHere’s a question J-Spot-16. Totally honest. No snarkiness.
If Gore was to go all green–pay all of his carbon emissions, go completely biodegradable in all of his purchases, walk from venue to venue to get his message out–would that convince you to make a similar sacrifice? Would his message get through to you to make a difference?
March 24th, 2009 at 1:45 pmWhigs; A member of a political party opposing the Democratic party and advancing protection of industry and limitation of power in the executive branch of government.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:47 pmcd Says:
Good point toasterhead.
I just wish they had a minister alive today to counter act Pat Robertson & co.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
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I’m sure there are plenty, but they’re probably all too busy doing work in their communities and trying to help their fellow human beings to waste their time self-promoting.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:47 pmGore is making a load of money with his efforts. Apparently libs think you are only whoring yourself if you work for some legit company and not whore yourself like Gore by making books, movies, and buying into Carbon Trading companies, etc. Libs really are not very good at consistent thought and logic.
About Gore, he is an opportunist, a gross hypocrite and a very bad scientist. His movie, convenient lies, had more false and wrong statements than it did correct ones. Gore has done nothing to correct his misconceptions. In fact, he does nothing but promote things that he now knows to be false.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:53 pm.
Who’da thunk it…
… DFH were right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKEZoY-TMG4
(note: watch for the side by side comparison of the polar ice cap)
.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:59 pmkmichaels Says:
Gore is making a load of money with his efforts.
Prove it.
Apparently libs think you are only whoring yourself if you work for some legit company and not whore yourself like Gore by making books, movies, and buying into Carbon Trading companies, etc.
Prove it.
Libs really are not very good at consistent thought and logic.
Prove it.
About Gore, he is an opportunist, a gross hypocrite and a very bad scientist.
Prove it.
His movie, convenient lies, had more false and wrong statements than it did correct ones.
Prove it.
Gore has done nothing to correct his misconceptions. In fact, he does nothing but promote things that he now knows to be false.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Prove it.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:00 pmwatchdog Says:
Winter’s over and its time for the onslaught of fear mongering from the reverend gore.
Yes, Winter is almost over, a quite cold one too.
And the Earth is still spherical, and rotates on a titled axis
Therefore, while it’s been icy cold here in the Northern Hemisphere, it is conversely Summer in the Southern Hemisphere.
Check out the incredible “heat wave” that paralyzed Australia this summer:
Australian heatwave sign of climate change
Learn to think Globally, or the Reality train will run you down in your stupid little wrong-way tracks.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pmkmichaels Says:
Worship at the dick of O’liar often?
March 24th, 2009 at 2:03 pmkmichaels Says: Please point out what false and wrong statements Gore made in his movie? You come here and expect us to believe that there are more lies then truth in his movie, so put your money were your mouth is and give us a line by line list of these so called falsehoods.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:05 pmleave it to hotdog to totally not understand the science and rely on copy-and-paste from other anti-science ignorants
what an ignorant coward
March 24th, 2009 at 2:17 pmdoggie,
uncredited cut and pasting?
no wonder you’re unemployed.
:)
March 24th, 2009 at 2:18 pmRantingTommy Says:
leave it to hotdog to totally not understand the science and rely on copy-and-paste from other anti-science ignorants
what an ignorant coward
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nevertheless thanks to doggie
there are more of us and fewer
of him.
;;
good doggie!
:)
March 24th, 2009 at 2:18 pmhotdog, great cut and paste job. I guess you must have seen a different movie by Gore then I did. Please link were you got your cut and paste crap.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pmwatchdog Says:
Misleading links between weather events and climate change:Climate is the average of weather conditions over long time periods; because the climate system is inherently variable, individual weather events are not indicative of trends. Nonetheless, Gore overwhelms the reader with many individual events, claiming this is global warming in action: a European heatwave, record daily highs in U.S. cities one summer, hurricane Katrina, floods in Europe and China, and more. To address the issue of climate change, all such events must be considered over time. As it turns out, in several cases such analysis refutes any claims of recent trends (for example, with regard to floods).
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This is the only legitimate misleading claim in Gore’s movie, and he has since toned down his language connecting climate change and specific extreme weather events occurring in the present. This does not change the prediction, however, that rising global temperatures will lead to more severe weather events in the future.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pmWell, uncredited or not, watchdog did provide his argument. Instead of name-calling, I suggest that we buffer our own argument with credited information that backs up Gore’s claims.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:25 pmOh, and I’m still waiting, JohnnyOnTheSpot16, for an answer. And I’ll expect one then next time I see you here.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:26 pmkmichaels Says:
I couldn’t have said it better!!!
So the planet has risen 0.93 degrees over the last hundred years-that’s possible, but don’t you think the planet has cooled and heated up several times over the last million years ”without many humans around”
March 24th, 2009 at 2:32 pmdoggie,
you forgot the link.
and now we know why.
“compiled by Wm. Robert Johnston
last modified 14 September 2006”
:)
yeah doggie,
great cut ‘n paste job!
“”
March 24th, 2009 at 2:33 pmbut don’t you think
It seems your cranium has lost that process altogether.
Please stop “tossing” it around so casually.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:34 pmIt is amazing how many people have fallen for the lies of this “snake oil salesman.” There is no global warming, it’s all a plot to seperate one from their money. Deal with it!
March 24th, 2009 at 2:37 pmGore uses another set of ice core data to claim that carbon dioxide concentrations have driven global temperatures for the last 600,000 years. He admits the actual relationship is “complicated”, which is as close as he comes to admitting the fact that the temperature changes came first, and probably helped drive the carbon dioxide changes.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
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Gore admits that the relationship is complicated because it is:
Historically, CO2 has lagged behind rises in temperatures from other factors, and then has driven continued warming. However, this does not negate the fact that current CO2 increases are driving temperature rises, and far more rapidly than they did in the past. There is no precedent for the current situation, in which CO2 rose before temperature.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:37 pmpoor little watchb!tch still can’t understand the science so he copies and pastes BS
i guess he’s just too much of a coward to actually do some research
March 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pmmore from doggie’s pal
“Wm.Robert Johnston”
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this time he’s an “expert”
on the “dangers” of abortion.
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doggie,
can’t you find someone
crazier to support your agenda?
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try harder!
:)
March 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pmoldwoman Says:
It is amazing how many people have fallen for the lies of this “snake oil salesman.” There is no global warming, it’s all a plot to seperate one from their money. Deal with it!
March 24th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
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No. What’s amazing is how ignorant science deniers like yourself will refuse to admit that the facts are against them, no matter how much evidence piles up that climate change is real and is happening now and that we are the biggest cause of it.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pmdoggie,
look, you have a supporter!
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oldwoman Says:
It is amazing how many people have fallen for the lies of this “snake oil salesman.” There is no global warming, it’s all a plot to seperate one from their money. Deal with it!
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woof, woof!
:)
March 24th, 2009 at 2:41 pmFor every scientist that says there is global warming, there is at least one that says otherwise.
The planet changes all the time and there is nothing we can do about it!!!!!
First snow for 100 years falls on Baghdad
Jan 11, 2008
BAGHDAD (AFP) — Light snow fell in Baghdad early on Friday in what weather officials said was the first time in about a 100 years.
Rare snowfalls were also recorded in the west and centre of Iraq, plunging temperatures to zero degrees Centigrade (32 degrees Fahrenheit) and even colder, an official said.
The snow in Baghdad, which melted as it hit the ground, began falling before dawn and continued until after 9 am, residents said.
“Snow has fallen in Baghdad for the first time in about a century as a result of two air flows meeting,” said a statement by the meteorology department.
“The first one was cold and dry and the second one was warm and humid. They met above Iraq.”
The director of the meteorology department, Dawood Shakir, told AFP that climate change was possibly to blame for the unusual event.
“It’s very rare,” he said. “Baghdad has never seen snow falling in living memory.
“These snowfalls are linked to the climate change that is happening everywhere. We are finding some places in the world which are warm and are supposed to be cold.”
Snow was also reported in the mountainous Kurdish north of the country, where falls are common.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pmkevin1 Says:
So the planet has risen 0.93 degrees over the last hundred years-that’s possible, but don’t you think the planet has cooled and heated up several times over the last million years ”without many humans around”
March 24th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
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Yes. I don’t think so, I know so. The Earth’s climate has changed constantly since its birth 4.5 billion years ago. Usually over very very very long periods of time during which species have had plenty of time to evolve and adapt.
It’s also occasionally changed quite rapidly, due to large asteroid strikes and other less-understood phenomena. These periods have prompted mass extinctions of up to 90% of all plant and animal species on the planet.
The overwhelming evidence points to the current warming trend as being one of the latter, and indicates that human activity is the cause.
What point were you trying to make, exactly?
March 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pmoldwoman Says: Let me guess… The earth is only 4 thousand years old and humans walked with dinosaurs, right?
March 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pmtommy,
research?
that’s for pussies!
doggie’s a cuttin’ pastin’ man.
ain’t cha doggie?
**
March 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pmwrong kevin, just plain wrong
for every right winger there is a climate change denier
right wingers are just too much of pansies to face the truth
March 24th, 2009 at 2:44 pmoldwoman Says:
It is amazing how many people have fallen for the lies of this “snake oil salesman.” There is no global warming, it’s all a plot to seperate one from their money. Deal with it!
If you don’t believe in global warming, fine.
But I’m recycling and walking for conservation’s sake. I’d love to have more of the earth around for my children and their children. I conserve water so that they can drink it. I conserve energy so that there’s more of it around. I conserve gasoline so I don’t pollute the air.
The point I’m making is that there are consequences in what we do. Whether it is heating the atmosphere up, changing weather patterns, polluting the world we live in, or some other effect that we haven’t even discovered yet…these are things we are still responsible for, and our consumption has to affect something on this world.
So I am dealing with it.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:45 pmkevin1 Says:
For every scientist that says there is global warming, there is at least one that says otherwise.
First snow for 100 years falls on Baghdad
Jan 11, 2008
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The director of the meteorology department, Dawood Shakir, told AFP that climate change was possibly to blame for the unusual event.
…
“These snowfalls are linked to the climate change that is happening everywhere. We are finding some places in the world which are warm and are supposed to be cold.”
March 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
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Did you even bother to read the story before posting it? It would appear to contradict the moronic argument you’re trying to make.
Good try, though. You get a C+ for effort.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:45 pmGoogle-snow for the first time in years- Interesting!!!!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 2:50 pmNo, that would be a false statement. You really shouldn’t just make shit up and state it as fact. It makes you look stupid.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:50 pmI am just saying that yes, climate does change, some areas get snow where it didn’t in the past. It doesn’t mean that the planet is getting warmer.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:52 pmkevin1 Says:
Google-snow for the first time in years- Interesting!!!!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
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It is interesting, isn’t it?
I mean, when you Google that, you get all these stories about unusual weather activity. Snow in areas that haven’t had snow in centuries. It’s as if the climate was, like, CHANGING or something!
March 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pmThat’s funny, you right-wing Republicans say the same thing about the economy when attempting to explain why all economic recessions occur during Republican administrations. You guys call it the “economic cycle”.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:55 pmkevin1 Says:
I am just saying that yes, climate does change, some areas get snow where it didn’t in the past. It doesn’t mean that the planet is getting warmer.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
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What does it mean, then? The planet is getting colder?
Because worldwide temperature records would disagree with you there.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:56 pmWhat do worldwide temperatures have to do with global climate? It was cold in Bagdad one day. That’s all the proof I need.
March 24th, 2009 at 2:59 pmJust Goolge scientists disagree/more info that you need!!!
Tad CronnMay 27, 2008
Global warming ‘consensus’: 31,000 scientists disagree
Filed under: energy, life, media, news, politics, religion, science — tadcronn @ 12:50 am
Tags: Al Gore, fraud, global warming, scam, scientific consensus
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Al Gore and global warm-mongers have won many converts with their claim that 2,500 scientific reviewers of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s report constitutes a “consensus” among scientists that man-made warming is destroying Earth.
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Not only have many of those reviewers made it known that they disagree with the U.N. conclusions, but now there is a petition circulated by Dr. Arthur Robinson, director of the Oregon Institute for Science and Medicine, signed by more than 31,000 scientists who dispute the theory of man-made global warming. The petition states, in part:
There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.
The 31,000 signers all hold scientific credentials; approximately 9,000 of them hold scientific Ph.D.s.
Robinson held a press conference earlier this month. Although members of the media and Congress were invited, attendance was light.
Robinson points out that over the past 150 years, scientists have found that global temperatures have been predicted with 79 percent accuracy by the sunspot index, which precedes climate changes by about 10 years. CO2, by comparison, has been only 22 percent accurate, and that number has rapidly declined in the past decade as temperatures have dipped and CO2 has continued to rise.
In fact, 70 percent of the Earth’s warming in the past hundred years occurred before 1940, while nearly all of humanity’s industrial emissions have occurred after that date. Since 1940, the climate has only risen 0.2 Celsius.
Robinson notes that the U.N. has never produced any direct evidence that mankind is causing warming, but that the IPCC report is only a summary, written by a handful of authors, of discussions among scientists invited to a U.N. conference.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pmI love how the “We can pollute all we want” lobby has used the Big Tobacco model for scientific sleight-of-hand; hire someone to do “research,” but hold onto the check until the “research” is deemed appropriate for your preordained outcome. Don’t you neocons think we’d all love to believe the world isn’t getting screwed by our consumptive lifestyles? I’d give my sac to be able to do whatever the hell I want with no consequences, but in the real world, the credible, objective scientists are more or less in agreement that climate change is leading to catastrophic outcomes – they differ on some of the details, and clearly we need to iron these out to form a plan of action, but to deny it is a real and immediate danger is not just stupid, it’s criminal. As with most neocon stances, however, they’d rather be dead than admit they might be wrong.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pmWarming not even one degree in a hundred years, is not global warming !!!
March 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pmkevin1 Says:
Warming not even one degree in a hundred years, is not global warming !!!
March 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
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Actually, it is. By definition. When the global average temperature warms by, say, .5 degrees Celsius over 100 years, that is indeed global warming. Because the globe is warming, you see.
Is this the tactic you science deniers are reduced to? Claiming words simply don’t mean what they mean?
What’s next on your science-denying agenda? Gravity? The Pythagorean Theorem? Multiplication tables?
6 times 7 is not 42. It’s 25!!! Anyone who says otherwise is LYING!!! You libs are falling for the PRO-42 NEW WORLD ORDER AGENDA!!! GEORGE SOROS!!!! 42!!!!!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 3:18 pmIt is unfortunate that the trolls have interfered with useful discussions of this subject.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:18 pmThey bask in their own stupidity and post links to junk science, then we respond to them instead of each other.
Survival of the fittest during this crisis, the greatest mankind has ever faced, means those who fail to adapt will be at a great disadvantage. I almost wish we could ship all the trolls to the coast off Bangladesh.
nellre Says:
I almost wish we could ship all the trolls to the coast off Bangladesh.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
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Now that’s just cruel. Don’t you think there’s enough pollution there as it is?
March 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pmThe Moderate Squad Says:
As with most neocon stances, however, they’d rather be dead than admit they might be wrong.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
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And they’re not alone in that sentiment. I, too, would rather they be dead. It’d be so much better for the species.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:25 pmTwo critical facts to keep in mind:
1) carbon dioxide is known to be a greenhouse gas — greenhouse gases trap heat within the surface-troposphere system
2) Due to human activities such as the combustion of fossil fuels and deforestation, and the increased release of CO2 from the oceans due to the increase in the Earth’s temperature, the concentration of atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased by about 35% since the beginning of the age of industrialization
How do the trolls reconcile these two facts?
March 24th, 2009 at 3:36 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
How do the trolls reconcile these two facts?
March 24th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
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Denial, denial, and denial.
They’re not facts if you can’t hear them cause you’ve stuck your fingers in your ears and are shouting “LALALALALALALALALALA” at the top of your lungs.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:40 pmSpeaking of Bangladesh, I found this story interesting. Due to rising sea levels, shrimp farms are replacing rice paddies.
Flooding, Food and Climate Change in Bangladesh
March 24th, 2009 at 3:42 pmIt’s okay. We’re trying to save the planet for you trolls, too.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:48 pm——————————————————————————–
ralph the wonder llama Says:
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Two critical facts to keep in mind:
1) carbon dioxide is known to be a greenhouse gas — greenhouse gases trap heat within the surface-troposphere system
2) Due to human activities such as the combustion of fossil fuels and deforestation, and the increased release of CO2 from the oceans due to the increase in the Earth’s temperature, the concentration of atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased by about 35% since the beginning of the age of industrialization
How do the trolls reconcile these two facts?
Oh my god one degree!!!!!! help- we are all going to die
March 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pmInteresting that it’s always right-wingers who suggest such a thing, even if sarcastically.
I guess it’s just one of the places their minds go.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:51 pmHere is just one list of 35 key lies and misrepresentations that Gore made in his movie.
http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/10/30/35-scientific-errors-or-intentional-lies-in-an-inconvenient-truth/
To date, he has not renounced any of his lies.
Needless to say, liberals will demand even more proof of Gore’s lies and or attack anyone doubting their favorite fool.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:52 pmOh, I see. They ignore them.
That explains a lot.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:52 pmwatchdog Says:
Are you familiar with the scientific method?
March 24th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
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Yes. Why, would you like me to explain it to you? It’s obvious from your science-denying posts that you have no understanding of it whatsoever.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pmFirst seven lies or misrepresentations Gore told in his movie. Entire list of 35 found here.
http://scottthong.wordpress.com/ 2007/ 10/ 30/ 35-scientific-errors-or-intentional-lies-in-an-inconvenient-truth/
1. Sea level “rising 6 m”
Even the IPCC’s maximum estimate is a mere 59cm… In the year 2100.
2. Pacific islands “drowning”
They aren’t. The sea levels around the Maldives haven’t changed for 1250 years. Same goes for Vanuatu.
3. Thermohaline circulation “stopping”
In reality, it is strengthening.
4. CO2 “driving temperature”
It is a clear and well accepted fact that temperature drives CO2 levels.
5. Snows of Kilimanjaro “melting”
Temperature at the summit never rises above freezing. Most of the melt occured before 1936.
6. Lake Chad “drying up”
It also dried up in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC and 100BC. Where was our carbon-polluting human industry then?
7. Hurricane Katrina “man made”
March 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pmMaximum hurricane wind speed and number of hurricanes has not increased.
#107: You’re welcome
March 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pmOne volcanic eruption has enough poison to kill us all, but yet it doesn’t, you think a bunch of cars are going to make any difference.
Some scientist say that cows gas is worse than all the vehicles on the planet- should we kill all the cows!!
March 24th, 2009 at 3:57 pm5. Snows of Kilimanjaro “melting”
Temperature at the summit never rises above freezing. Most of the melt occured before 1936.
Please go here to see how bad your research is.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:00 pmI’ll let commenter Infidel on one of your links handle this one, as he sums it up pretty nicely:
You failed to mention that the judge quite clearly expressed that the movie won’t be banned from schools, as Dimmock demanded, because the detected errors were minor in nature and that the movie contains four main messages that are very well and truthfully documented: That climate change is made by man, that temperatures will rise further, that the climate change will have bad consequences and that it is possible for governments and individuals to do something about it.
Funny how the wingnuts get all worked up about 35 “lies” (which are not “lies” but instead exaggerations, worst-case scenarios that the deniers claim are presented as “facts”, or opinions of some researchers that are not shared by others) yet they reject the well-documented more than 900 lies told by the Bush administration in selling their war-of-choice to the American public.
Curious.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:01 pm1) carbon dioxide is known to be a greenhouse gas — greenhouse gases trap heat within the surface-troposphere system
Greenhouse gases are known to be what keeps the earth inhabitants alive and thriving. Increased carbon dioxide increases plant growth. Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. It is a life giver. Water vapor is also a greenhouse gas. We do not ignore these facts. We are thankful that they exist.
2) Due to human activities such as the combustion of fossil fuels and deforestation, and the increased release of CO2 from the oceans due to the increase in the Earth’s temperature, the concentration of atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased by about 35% since the beginning of the age of industrialization
Due to solar activity carbon dioxide goes way up and way down over time. During the last 8 years or so the earths temperature has been slowing down in increase. Even getting lower. This does not jive well with Gore predictions. Gorites are scrambling to change the terms of the discussion to climate change instead of global warming because they want to hedge their bets when their predictions fail, which of course they will.
The goal of liberals is more government control of your lives and the current weapon of choice is the global warming fear forced down your throats ad nauseum.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:01 pmkmichaels Says:
Nice!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 4:04 pmYou guys just can’t get over Bush!!!
March 24th, 2009 at 4:06 pmkmichaels: That dog don’t hunt – GOP monitoring our lives for spurious national security reasons, telling a woman what she can do with body, telling doctors how they can treat patients, telling cancer patients they can’t smoke pot to alleviate their suffering, sending soldiers to die in a manufactured war, etc. ad nauseum…this to you is not a grab for control of our lives?
March 24th, 2009 at 4:08 pmkevin1 Says:
Some scientist say that cows gas is worse than all the vehicles on the planet- should we kill all the cows!!
March 24th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
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Um, cows are part of the problem of man-made pollution contributing to global warming. Without human industrial agriculture, there wouldn’t be billions of cows on the planet.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:11 pm5. Snows of Kilimanjaro “melting”
Temperature at the summit never rises above freezing. Most of the melt occured before 1936.
Please go here to see how bad your research is.
I went to your link. It did not refute the fact that the temperature at the summit never rises above freezing. It also does not refute the fact that the majority of the melt occurred before 1936.
Your link also left out the fact that other scientists have correctly stated that there are more than one reasons that some glaciers disappear. A key one being evaporation, which does not require warmer temperatures. Also not noted in your link was that the landscape in the Kilimanjaro area changed to allow for more evaporation.
So yes, glaciers do get larger and get smaller all the time. But the Kilimanjaro glacier was already getting smaller well before the USA was industrialized to any major degree.
Also, key point, the glacier is in an area whose temperature is well below freezing and always is. yet it continues to get smaller (due to evaporation, not temperature)
March 24th, 2009 at 4:13 pmWhenever someone has a different option, you Libs start throwing around names and try to put everyone down who don’t believe as you do.
The fact is that the world has increased less than one degree in the last 100 years, but there are no facts-none- that say its man made. It is all speculation, if you want to change the way you live your lives, great. Don’t expect me to.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:14 pmralph the llama seems to think that we should fall for his idiotic headfakes. When I pointed out Gores 35 lies, misrepresentations etc ralphie responded with the typical headfake about Bush. Always count on a liberal to bring up Bush if they cant respond to the details. Apparently ralph is saying that so what if Gore lied, so did Bush. Then ralph minimizes the lies that Gore told. He calls them not lies but exaggerations. So then, if Gore says the sea level will rise 20 meters and not the few inches that are actually predicted he is not LYING but just exaggerating. Dude, that is lying no matter how much you LIE to cover up Gore’s lies. And when Gore stated that Carbon Dioxide drove temperatures up when it was just the reverse, that it was temperatures that drove Carbon Dioxide release from the ocean up then that too is a lie. ralph is the type or morons that real science has to confront every day. And real science says that global warming is a farce and a lie.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:21 pmkmichaels Says:
“The goal of liberals is more government control of your lives”
Yup, we have nothing better to do. That must be why we wrote the Patriot Act and we’re not Pro-Choice… oh wait.
The goal is to save lives. If you don’t think that 1 degree in 100 years is a big deal then you need to look at the rate of warming in the past and see how it compares to it.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:22 pmwatchdog: no, not alone, and that’s why I do not belong to either party and did not support Hillary for prez. But it was the GOP that got the ball rolling and villified anyone who asked for clarification as unpatriotic. And what about the rest of the post? Strangely silent on that, aren’t you?
March 24th, 2009 at 4:22 pmTelling a woman what she can do with her childs body sounds like rational thought in a good society. Yes, murder is not good. And yes GOP do point out that murder is not good. GOP monitoring your lives? Funny, but Obama ok’d the continued work of NSA and its monitoring. Are you blaming him too, bozo? And I am pretty damn sure that they are not caring about monitoring the lives of you retarded liberals. At best you are boring. As to using pot to alleviate suffering, there are legal drugs that do a better job. And yes, Obama believes that some forms of drugs should be illegal too.
As to lies getting us into Iraq. Hillary, Kerry and pretty much every top democrat told us the same lies. Go figure.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:27 pm“The goal is to save lives. If you don’t think that 1 degree in 100 years is a big deal then you need to look at the rate of warming in the past and see how it compares to it.”
Prove that a warmer temperature will take more lives than it saves then you might have a point. Let alone the fact that you cant even prove that we are destined for a warmer temperature in the first place.
No the liberal goal is not to save lives but to control your lives. That is the intent of all the global warming fear.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pmIf anyone really thinks that Americans will give up anything they have now, they are nuts.
Most are greedy to the point of self destruction.
Give up your gas guzzler SUV for an Electric…only if their forced.
Equip your house with photocells…only if their forced.
Recycle everything…not if they can just throw it in the trash.
Save the planet…only if someone else does it…besides it would be bad for business.
We are a doomed species, and we don’t even want to do anything about it.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:32 pmSeven more lies that Gore told during his movie.
8. Polar bears “dying”
Four bears died in a storm. Four. Measly. Bears. Meanwhile, there are 25000 polar bears today compared to 5000 in 1940.
9. Coral reefs “bleaching”
It was caused by an unusual El Nino pattern, not global warming.
10. 100 ppmv of CO2 “melting mile-thick ice”
Gore overstates the effect of CO2 ten times greater than even the IPCC’s highest estimate.
11. Hurricane Caterina “manmade”
Air temperatures in the area were the coldest in 25 years, not warmest.
12. Japanese typhoons “a new record”
Tropical cyclone frequency has fallen in the past 50 years.
13. Hurricanes “getting stronger“
They haven’t in 60 years.
14. Big storm insurances losses “increasing”
March 24th, 2009 at 4:35 pmInsured losses in hurricane-prione areas were lower in 2005 than 1905.
1. Sea level “rising 6 m”
Even the IPCC’s maximum estimate is a mere 59cm… In the year 2100.
Wrong. .59 meters is not 59 centimeters. It’s 590 centimeters – about two feet. However, the IPCC does not attempt to predict sea level rise in their AR 4 synthesis report:
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/syr/ar4_syr_spm.pdf
2. Pacific islands “drowning”
They aren’t. The sea levels around the Maldives haven’t changed for 1250 years. Same goes for Vanuatu.
Wrong. Rising sea levels and coastal erosion are causing widespread damage in the Maldives. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7945877.stm
3. Thermohaline circulation “stopping”
In reality, it is strengthening.
In reality, this is unclear. Some studies indicate that thermohaline circulation are weakening, others indicate no change or strengthening. There is general consensus that the consequences of a shutdown, should it happen, would be catastrophic. More research is needed here.
4. CO2 “driving temperature”
It is a clear and well accepted fact that temperature drives CO2 levels.
And it is also a clear and well-accepted fact that CO2 also drives temperature, creating a feedback loop.
5. Snows of Kilimanjaro “melting”
Temperature at the summit never rises above freezing. Most of the melt occured before 1936.
Gore’s movie is a bit inaccurate here. It’s not rising temperature driving the loss of Kilimanjaro’s glacial cover, but reduced precipitation.
http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/stories/kilimanjaro_20021216/index.html
6. Lake Chad “drying up”
It also dried up in 8500BC, 5500BC, 1000BC and 100BC. Where was our carbon-polluting human industry then?
The fact that natural factors caused localized warming and desertification in the past does not mean that human activity is not contributing to warming and desertificaiton in the present.
7. Hurricane Katrina “man made”
Maximum hurricane wind speed and number of hurricanes has not increased.
Research here is inconclusive and Gore has recently begun toning down his language on this point.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:36 pmYet another seven more lies that Gore stated in his movie. But then, liberals could not survive without lying …
15. Mumbai “flooding”
There’s been no increase in rainfall over 48 years.
16. Severe tornadoes “more frequent”
Severe tornadoes have fallen in frequency for the last 50 years. Tropical storms are also at the lowest frequency in decades.
17. The sun “heats the Arctic ocean”
The ocean emits more heat than it receives from the sun.
18. Arctic “warming fastest”
It’s actually 1 degree cooler now than in 1940.
19. Greenland ice sheet “unstable”
The ice sheet did not break up during the last three times when the temperature was 5 degrees hotter than today.
20. Himalayan glacial melt waters “failing”
The snow melt which provides water has not decreased in 40 years.
21. Peruvian glaciers “disappearing”
March 24th, 2009 at 4:37 pmFor the past 10,000 years the Peruvian ‘glacier’ region has been mostly ice free.
kevin1 Says:
The fact is that the world has increased less than one degree in the last 100 years, but there are no facts-none- that say its man made. It is all speculation, if you want to change the way you live your lives, great. Don’t expect me to.
Since that door is open, then how do you live your life? Do you recycle? Do you use eco-friendly products? Do you use automobiles less than you have in the past? Do you conserve energy at home when you’re not there? Do you keep lights on when you aren’t using rooms?
March 24th, 2009 at 4:39 pmLooks like this thread has been invaded by trolls from the Competitive Enterprise Institute.
I guess your pay per post has been cut substantially since Exxon was embarassed into cutting their funding of CEI. Do you guys still have your funding from the American Petroleum Institute?
March 24th, 2009 at 4:43 pmtoasterhead is a real winner. He points out that Gore did not lie when I pointed out his lies. He just said that research was inconclusive or IF what Gore said would happen would be really bad. There is no winning with fools like him. He wants to believe that mankind is hurting the earth and so he comes up with the most lame apologies for Gores list of lies.
Here is yet seven more lies that Gore told during his movie
Watch toasterhead play his idiotic spin game to cover up for Gores gross errors …
22. Mountain glaciers worldwide “disappearing”
Human CO2 output has had no effect on the already-present glacier shortening trend.
23. Sahara desert “drying”
In the past 25 years, the Sahara shrunk by 300,000 square kilometres due to increased rainfall.
24. West Antarctic ice sheet “unstable”
Antarctic ice is at its thickest in nearly 28 years.
25. Antarctic Peninsula ice shelves “breaking up”
Gore concentrates on the 2% of Antarctica that is experiencing some warming, while conciously neglecting to mention the 98% of Antarctica that is cooling.
26. Larsen B Ice Shelf “broke up because of ‘global warming’”
The ice shelfs have been breaking up since 10,000 years ago.
27. Mosquitoes “climbing to higher altitudes”
The graph says it all: Wrong.
28. Many tropical diseases “spread through ‘global warming’”
March 24th, 2009 at 4:45 pmNone of the diseases quoted are tropical, none are affected by increasing temperature, and some even cause more harm at colder temperatures.
shoeless Says:
“Looks like this thread has been invaded by trolls from the Competitive Enterprise Institute.”
In other words the liberal response to evidence that proves them wrong is to claim that you must be working for BIG OIL. Oh watch the big oil boogy man. It cant possibly be true that people disagree with Gore unless they work for big oil.
shoeless the typical liberal drone.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:48 pmFinal section on Gore lies … read complete list here …
http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2007/10/30/35-scientific-errors-or-intentional-lies-in-an-inconvenient-truth/
29. West Nile virus in the US “spread through ‘global warming’”
West Nile virus flourishes in any climate, from desert to ice.
30. Carbon dioxide is “pollution”
Forests are thriving due to the increasing CO2 levels.
31. The European heat wave of 2003 “killed 35,000?
Cold snaps kill people, but the IPCC does not include the number of lives that would be saved due to less cold weather.
32. Pied flycatchers “cannot feed their young”
A few tens of kilometres north, and there is no notable difference.
33. Gore’s bogus pictures and film footage
Gore plays fast and loose with falsely used images.
34. The Thames Barrier “closing more frequently”
It is closed to retain tidal water in the Thames.
35. “No fact…in dispute by anybody.”
March 24th, 2009 at 4:50 pmYeah, right.
kmichaels Says:
Seven more lies that Gore told during his movie.
8. Polar bears “dying”
Four bears died in a storm. Four. Measly. Bears. Meanwhile, there are 25000 polar bears today compared to 5000 in 1940.
And what was that 1940 figure based on? Even today’s scientists admit that it’s impossible to get an accurate census. However:
http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/bear-facts/
9. Coral reefs “bleaching”
It was caused by an unusual El Nino pattern, not global warming.
Not in Hawaii. One of the main causal factors in bleaching events in Hawaii in 1996 and 2002 is believed to be rising ocean temperatures, not El Nino: http://www.fws.gov/coralreef/proceedings/Day%202%20PDF/5-Athline%20Clark.pdf
10. 100 ppmv of CO2 “melting mile-thick ice”
Gore overstates the effect of CO2 ten times greater than even the IPCC’s highest estimate.
Wrong.
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-spm.pdf
11. Hurricane Caterina “manmade”
Air temperatures in the area were the coldest in 25 years, not warmest.
What area? The Gulf of Mexico? Or Northern Africa, where Katrina first formed?
March 24th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Give up your gas cars for electric cars. Except, it has been shown that the normal process of creating electricity tends to create as much or more carbon dioxide. The one thing that would help clean electricity is nuclear power plants yet the typical Gorite will not support such a venture. They cant get out of their system how evil nuclear power is. Some ideas that were drummed into their heads still remain.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:57 pmkmichaels Says:
“No the liberal goal is not to save lives but to control your lives. That is the intent of all the global warming fear.”
Did you use “real” science to reach that conclusion? Prove it.
March 24th, 2009 at 4:57 pmYou can spew your junk science all day. It does not alter what is happening. The psuedo-scientists who put out this garbage can all be traced back to the Competitive Enterprise Institute.
Here is a partial list of contributors to CEI:
Sarah Scaife Foundation (Scaife Foundations)
Scaife Family Foundations
Amoco Foundation, Inc.
Ford Motor Company Fund
Philip Morris Companies, Inc.
Pfizer Inc.
Texaco, Inc.
Texaco Foundation
Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers
Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America,
General Motors
American Petroleum Institute
American Plastics Council
Chlorine Chemistry Council
Arch Coal
http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=Competitive_Enterprise_Institute
March 24th, 2009 at 4:58 pmPurple State Says:
March 24th, 2009 at 4:59 pm**************************************
I save money where I can; the electric bill is on average $400.00 a month-so yes I turn off the lights when I leave a room, I keep my AC at 80 when not at home and I would use solar panels on my home- it just cost about $20,000.00 to do my house.
kmichaels Says:
“Except, it has been shown that the normal process of creating electricity tends to create as much or more carbon dioxide.”
So, are you worried about the extra release of CO2 or aren’t you?
March 24th, 2009 at 4:59 pmkmichaels Says:
toasterhead is a real winner. He points out that Gore did not lie when I pointed out his lies. He just said that research was inconclusive or IF what Gore said would happen would be really bad. There is no winning with fools like him. He wants to believe that mankind is hurting the earth and so he comes up with the most lame apologies for Gores list of lies.
Here is yet seven more lies that Gore told during his movie
Watch toasterhead play his idiotic spin game to cover up for Gores gross errors …
March 24th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
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I’m not spinning. Just pointing to research that shows that reality is much more complex than either Gore or you are saying. Certain statements Gore made in his movie and book may have suffered from oversimplification or inadequate research at the time it was produced. This does not mean tha they are lies, however, and it does not refute the overwhelming scientific evidence for the consnsus that the planet is warming due primarily to human activity.
Since you’re making the accusation, please post proof that Al Gore lied. Not got some facts wrong, but KNOWINGLY LIED.
You can’t. Therefore, the liar is you.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:01 pmEveryone should know where this misinformation comes from, and who funds it.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:01 pmtoasterhead did the typical ploy of posting non-related facts to somehow prove that Gore was not lying. He did not answer the direct issues but instead posted headfakes and other what if situations. Again, this is typical of libs like toasterhead. They cant wait to make up crap to support the liar Gore because they have an agenda that does not let facts get in the way of.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:01 pmkmichaels Says:
toasterhead did the typical ploy of posting non-related facts to somehow prove that Gore was not lying. He did not answer the direct issues but instead posted headfakes and other what if situations. Again, this is typical of libs like toasterhead. They cant wait to make up crap to support the liar Gore because they have an agenda that does not let facts get in the way of.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
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Okay, you’re right. I’m actually a secret communist Muslim, and you figured out my secret plan. George Soros and I are plotting to take over the world by making everyone buy carbon credits and use solar energy.
And I’d like to see you stop us once we’ve locked you in your reeducation camp. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
March 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pmHow many critics of Global Warming qualify as Climatologists or climate scientists?
March 24th, 2009 at 5:07 pmtoasterhead is pretty hopeless, but then I don’t post for him. I post for honest people to see that Gore has a political agenda and is not the kind self-servant that he pretends to be. He is making money off of that ridiculous carbon credit crap. he continues to use 10 to 100 times more energy than the average citizen. His carbon footprint is excused because he is saving the world. Yet there is no evidence that he has saved one person from any suffering EVER.
Temperatures are going down and have done so for the last 8 or more years.
Global warming is being changed into “Climate Change” since evidence is proving that Global Warming is crap and their side knows it.
All evidence of better things occurring under warmer temperatures are ignored by these morons because it does not fit their agenda.
If you point out that plants thrive with more carbon dioxide they rush to point out that poison ivy will also grow faster. Hell dudes, poison ivy is a plant so yes, it will grow faster. But what the heck is your point? Oh yeah, your point is that you have to pretend that warmer is evil so you play your retarded games of gotcha.
The end result of the global warming fear is that leftist governments and peoples want to control more aspects of your lives. And the number one way is higher taxes. Look at Obama. He already has a huge list of “changes” in energy that will do nothing but raise the cost of energy to the consumer. Through higher taxes and more controls of your life.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:08 pmHmmm, looks like I touched a nerve here. Ever notice how threads on global warming never fail to bring out the trolls? CEI obvious watches closely, and quickly sends out their misinformation squads whenever this subject is broached.
I got your number chump.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:10 pmkmichaels Says:
“They cant get out of their system how evil nuclear power is.”
Can we use your basement to store all of the waste? I personally think we should use NASA as a Nuclear Waste Management program to store it all in space until we can figure out something better to use it on… other than middle eastern children in the form of Depleted Uranium weapons.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:10 pm“How many critics of Global Warming qualify as Climatologists or climate scientists?”
How many people rely on consensus to establish fact in science? Those that do tend to be clueless about how science works.
There are literally thousands of scientists in direct weather/climate related fields that claim that global warming is not real and not established.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:11 pmSee what I mean. 666 is using fear mongering about nuclear power in order to not use the one thing that would actually help produce clean energy and clean electricity, namely nuclear power plants. 666lattes so much wants to save you unless the solution is nuclear energy since it is on his “evil ” list.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pmkmichaels Says:
“I post for honest people to see that Gore has a political agenda and is not the kind self-servant that he pretends to be.”
So, that’s why he’s been studying climate change since the 60’s?
“He is making money off of that ridiculous carbon credit crap.”
So, making money is evil?
March 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pmNope, making money if fine. It is libs that believe that it is evil, unless Gore does it, then it is ok because he cares about you.
And no, 666 Gore has not been “studying climate change” since the 60’s. He has no degree in that field. He failed at most school ventures.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:14 pmkmichaels Says:
“How many people rely on consensus to establish fact in science?”
When it comes to a topic such as this, anyone with a brain.
“Those that do tend to be clueless about how science works.”
Yeah, the scientists of the IPCC have no idea how science works.
“There are literally thousands of scientists in direct weather/climate related fields that claim that global warming is not real and not established.”
Yup, like meteorologists… I guess since I use my email at work, I qualify as a web master.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:17 pmScientific opinion on climate change
March 24th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Very few, if any. The Competitive Enterprise Institute employs geologists, TV Weathermen, chemists, ect. to run around denying global warming. Apparently, CEI has hard a hard time convincing climatologists to take their money.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:18 pmkevin1 Says:
I save money where I can; the electric bill is on average $400.00 a month-so yes I turn off the lights when I leave a room, I keep my AC at 80 when not at home and I would use solar panels on my home- it just cost about $20,000.00 to do my house.
Then you are doing what you can. That’s good. I’m not one to tell you if you need to do more or not, but you’re doing your part. In a perfect world, everyone would be doing everything that they can, but it’s hardly perfect.
People need to understand that everything has limits and that we should be quite thankful for what we have by making sure it stays around for a long time. I want clean water, air, and energy for the next generations, and this shouldn’t be halted just for the argument of the existence/denial of global warming.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:20 pmkmichaels Says:
“It is libs that believe that it is evil, unless Gore does it, then it is ok because he cares about you.”
Ah, so making money is fine except when Gore does it?
“And no, 666 Gore has not been “studying climate change” since the 60’s. He has no degree in that field. He failed at most school ventures.”
“evelle, who died in 1991, started the remarkable series of measurements of atmospheric CO2 during the Intergovernmental Geophysical Year in 1957. As a visiting professor at Harvard University, he taught a freshman course attended by then-student Al Gore.”
http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/9858/Gores_global_warming_mentor_in_his_own_words.html
Why do you think it is that you need to lie to get your point across. I already know the answer, but maybe you need to think about it for a while.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:21 pmI think kmichaels had to leave. This talk about the Competitive Enterprise Institute makes his boss nervous.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:29 pmfyi: The interview in the link is from 1984, so A LOT more info has become available since then.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:29 pm“In 1967 Gore took a course on climate science from Roger Revelle which made a strong impression on him, influencing him in the direction of environmental concerns.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore
I already made my point, but 1967 was in the 60’s, right? I just want to be sure.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:37 pmAnd scene.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:47 pmkevin1 Says:
I save money where I can; the electric bill is on average $400.00 a month-so yes I turn off the lights when I leave a room, I keep my AC at 80 when not at home and I would use solar panels on my home- it just cost about $20,000.00 to do my house.
Apparently not. If you really wanted to save money, you would spend the $20,000 on solar panels. At a return of $400 dollars a month in savings on electricity, it would take you only 4 years and 2 months to get your money back. That isn’t counting any money you might earn if you sell energy back to the grid. Sounds to me like an investment.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:49 pmI appreciate Mr. Gore’s intentions but, I think he should step away from the front of the pack on global warming. What we need are people with NO political affiliation to take up the cause. He just makes too appealing a target for the morons on the Right.
Unfortunately, any contribution by an avowed “librul” like Al Gore will serve as nothing but an excuse for the Reichwhiners to reject it. If Al Gore said “the Earth is an oblate spheroid orbiting a medium sized star” Lush Rimjob and his ditto-heads would be proclaiming a flat Earth before the echo died.
March 24th, 2009 at 5:53 pmCompetitive Enterprise Institute is another right wing group of stooges. Like the American Enterprise Institute, they are a bunch of payed buffoons. It is to bad RepubliCons don’t understand competition or enterprise. As for American, not this bunch of RepubliCon traitors. These jerks can not even get the name right.
March 24th, 2009 at 8:31 pmApparently not as quickly as the wingnuts who got excited about it. No sense of irony apparently.
Let’s try rephrasing this:
“Al Gore to rally action around climate change with new book.”
As this:
“[48 celebrities of your choosing] to rally action around [any cause you like] with new book.”
Any clearer? Perhaps your copies of The Secret, DaVinci Code and Harry Potter are in the way.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:03 amSounds to me like a sub-prime loan.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:08 amIf you assume that a $20000 investment in solar panels makes $800 worth of electricity it only takes half as long. So why not do that? It’s just as valid an estimate as your first one.
I see all the trolls ran away when the Competitive Enterprise Institute was mentioned. No one is supposed to know about CEI. We should all bring it up everytime they flood a thread about global warming.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:30 am