Beck: Obama Is A ‘Manchurian Candidate’ Because He Uses A Teleprompter — But I Use One Too
Beck: Obama Is A ‘Manchurian Candidate’ Because He Uses A Teleprompter — But I Use One Too
If there are two things Fox News’ Glenn Beck loves, it’s conspiracy theories and a good right-wing attack line on President Obama. So it’s no surprise that he embraced the conservatives’ current outrage over Obama’s use of a teleprompter, spending the first 10 minutes of his radio show today railing about it.
Beck being Beck, he took it a step beyond others’ complaints, declaring that Obama’s use of a teleprompter is evidence that he’s a “Manchurian candidate”:
So I mean, it really bothers me, this teleprompter. … It bothers me that this man doesn’t — this man is always on prompter. You want to talk about a Manchurian candidate — that’s it! Who’s writing every word for this man? [...]
Is it bothering anyone else but me? We have a fraud in office, at least that’s the way it feels to me.
Beck imagined the conspiracy theories that would have been lobbed against George Bush if he had relied on a teleprompter — and makes it clear he believes them about Obama. Listen here:
Within seconds, however, Beck reversed course and insisted he’s “totally fine” with the use of a teleprompter, and admitted, “I do use a teleprompter from time to time”:
I’m totally fine with him having a teleprompter. I really am. When he has an address to the nation, I have no problem. He’s doing a state of the union, he’s doing an oval office, he’s doing the beginning of a press conference, I have no problem. … So don’t get me wrong. I have no problem being on teleprompter. I mean, all of the words that I say on television, all of them, I’ve written.
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They’re still on this stupid “teleprompter=bad” thing?
They got N-O-T-H-I-N’.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:05 pmwhat about those press conferences and interviews, glen,
you know,
those things W never did.
quit being a hysterical ninny, man.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:06 pmWTF? Why is this here? Other than to point out Beck is psychotic, something anyone with a brain already knew?
March 25th, 2009 at 6:06 pmHey Beck, must be a slow news day?
Maroon.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:07 pmWhy can’t republicans live with the fact that they lost the elections?
Why can’t they just move on?
March 25th, 2009 at 6:07 pmWithin seconds, however, Beck reversed course and insisted he’s “totally fine” with the use of a teleprompter, and admitted, “I do use a teleprompter from time to time”:
His intern must love having to correct the boss.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:07 pmSorry Glen, Johnny McNasty was the manchurian candidate.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:08 pmI heard the Bloviating Fool this morning talking about this. The right wingers so badly want to keep the teleprompter thing out in the forefront in the hopes that we RATIONAL Americans will gasp or something. Again, this will backfire on the right wingers because they still can’t see the forest through the trees yet.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:08 pm*
nuts.
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March 25th, 2009 at 6:11 pm“Beck: Obama Is A ‘Manchurian Candidate’ Because He Uses A Teleprompter — But I Use One Too”
Beck the wank has nothing better else to do to rehash the Obama teleprompter story. Is this newsworthy? No. But, in Planet Wingnuttia world of Beck it is.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:12 pmThe right wingers so badly want to keep the teleprompter thing out in the forefront in the hopes that we RATIONAL Americans will gasp or something.
It’s Arkasas Project II. The wingnut welfare queens are just drumming up business for their next round of poorly-researched and edited Remainder Rack Rockets.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:12 pmOops, “Arkansas.”
March 25th, 2009 at 6:13 pmDid Beck have a point with this rant other than to confuse everyone?
March 25th, 2009 at 6:14 pmBatshit Crazy.
Of course Beck writes all the drivel he spews. At least no one else would ever take credit for writing any of it.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:15 pmWe have a fraud in office, at least that’s the way it feels to me.
He comes to this conclusion after admitting he also engages in the same behavior.
Is that an admission that he’s also a fraud?
March 25th, 2009 at 6:16 pmBeck is quickly going around the bend.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:16 pmAlways on Teleprompter? A 100% provable LIE. What a Loon Beck is.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:20 pmThis guy has finally lost it. On CNN, he seemed somewhat sane. Now that he’s moved in Faux News, he has become extremely paranoid. Jeez, Billo, InsaHannity, Beck. What are they doing to these guys? Drugging their coffee?
March 25th, 2009 at 6:20 pm- – James Fallows said it best:
Obama’s opening statement at this evening’s press conference, delivered no doubt with the help of a teleprompter, sounded smoother and more polished than his real-time answers through the rest of the event.
The same is true for any public figure who has learned to use a teleprompter (harder than it seems) and whose teleprompter-ready material suits his or her natural speaking style. It sounds smoother than extemporized speech because it should be smoother. People don’t naturally speak in parsed and polished sentences, even eloquent people. When we are listening to what we know is spontaneous rather than scripted speech, we listen in a different way — we listen past grammatical glitches, repetitions, and other things that would be “flaws” on a printed page or in a formal oration. If you don’t believe me, look back for any extemporized performance that was judged to be riveting by audiences in real time. (A campaign rally, a TV interview, a debate, the closing argument in a trial.) If you then read a word-by-word transcript, it will look like a mess.
The important point with Obama is that the content, command of fact and concept, and overall intelligence of his extemporized answers matched that of the scripted presentation. That could not have been so if he were teleprompter-dependent. For example: by the end of his term, George W. Bush had become quite effective in delivering a formal speech. His interview- and press conference performance if anything deteriorated through his time in office.
The whole “Obama can’t talk on his own” concept is bizarre, given his performance through two years of stump speeches and debates during the campaign. But it seems to have gotten so much credence in the right-wing world that it is worth addressing head on.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:21 pmGood shoot down over this idiotic “Teleprompter” meme by the right wingnuts:
March 25th, 2009 at 6:21 pmhttp://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/03/obama_and_the_teleprompter.php
At least Obama looks smooth. Bush always looked like a deer in headlights.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:23 pmI wonder what’s in his medicine cabinet? This guys definitely crazy.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:23 pmok. i think it’s obvious now: certifiable.
not sure which, but definitely a certifiable mental illness…
March 25th, 2009 at 6:25 pmBat Shit Crazy!!!! Does he attend the same schools, churches or drug dens as Michelle Bachman, Michelle Malkin, Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity ot Laura Ingraham???
March 25th, 2009 at 6:25 pmThe wingnuts can’t be serious — this is all they have? That our current president uses a teleprompter?
The teleprompter was invented in the 1950s (although the early models were somewhat more primitive than today’s models). I would be willing to bet that every president since Eisenhower has used them when on television. Presidents prior to Eisenhower mostly used the radio to communicate to the nation, and could rely on their written notes.
So — calling all trolls! Enlighten us. Which presidents didn’t use teleprompters? Eisenhower? Kennedy? Johnson? Nixon? Ford? Carter? Reagan? Either of the Bushes? Clinton?
Of course, now that teleprompters have been demonized as some sort of crutch for the inferior by conservatives, I trust our next conservative president won’t use one. Oh wait…when that happens, I’m sure the use of a teleprompter will be hailed as the mark of statesmanship. Especially since Palin would be lost without one.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:27 pmmaybe if Bush had used a prompter then we couldve understood him.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:27 pmI mean lets be honest, there is absolutly nothing wrong with using one. He(Obama) writes ihis own speeches, why cant he um you know read them?
Hey, stupid!
You bordering-on-the-insane Beck!
You can’t even complete your own TV show without some hysterical rant based on nothing but your own psychological state or mind — you dare to criticize Obama for using a teleprompter — do you think he had an electronic script before him as he answered 13 questions on variouis serious topics with replies of 3-4-5 minutes each? He obviously knows his facts better than those quo quetioned him.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:29 pmSo the teleprompter must be activating the chip in his brain.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:30 pmBeck, go back to drinking. It’ll take the edge off and maybe some of those phantom demons will drown.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:34 pmGlenn Beck says, “Teleprompters are bad and a sign of weakness” Oh wait, the voice in my head tells me falafel is good and socialism is evil. No, the screen says cut to commercial. I’m so confused.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:34 pmA drowning man grasping at straws, imaginary straws.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:37 pmBeck is one more example that Faux NoNooz is capturing all the whack-jobs and neo-Nazis and will soon be circling the bowl, leaving the skid marks we have come to love so much.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:38 pmGlen, Glen… When did you cross over the border into Insaneville?
March 25th, 2009 at 6:38 pmI think Glenn Beak is a sad, pathic, fake. His acting (look at the crying he faked up) and his jumping around and sh|t is just VERY BAD ACTING.
That said, he’s dangerous because his followers don’t realize he’s acting and it’s all BS!!
March 25th, 2009 at 6:38 pmBeck, you are a total as$hole…you’ve got nothing.
Remember that moron of a president we had, the one who could not carry off a complete coherent sentence when using a teleprompter.
And Beck your audience are complete morons to be wasting their time listening to your insane, amateurish rants.
Faux is exactly where you belong, because you are a fake.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:38 pmHe has a show where he can and does apparently, make an idiot out of himself.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:39 pmSo that’s why people listen in, so they can make fun of him.
and Beck screams….”I coulda been a contenda.”
Except he wouldn’t because the allusion would be totally lost on him.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:39 pmdamm someone done switched blecks flintstone chewables with badly made acid……….again and again and again you would thnk someone would tell him about it by now
hey bleck dont you know… paranoia will destroy ya
March 25th, 2009 at 6:39 pmSo, when Obama smacked down Ed Henry at yesterday’s press conference…
Was he using a teleprompter to deliver the crushing rejoinder, “Because I like to know what I’m talking about before I speak”?
March 25th, 2009 at 6:40 pmI doubt anybody could really be that stupid and still be ambulatory.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:40 pmI don’t believe Obama had a teleprompter during the presidential debates, either primary or general, or after the speech during press conferences or on any of his television apearances when answering questions.
The interesting thing about Obama is the quality, content, specificity, and data don’t drastically change when Obama goes from teleprompted speech to questions off the cuff.
The fact that he averages about 4 minute multi-component answers without the need to ask what the second or third question was after answering the first and his command, not only of the data, but the eloquent way he describes how he analyzes the data, makes it clear Obama doens’t need a teleprompter.
This is as opposed to Bush, who would give a flowery speeches written for him, but once the speech is over and he goes to the Q and A, all we ever got was mindlessly repeated talking point non-answers without any detailed explanation.
Beck is a goob and knows he is lying.
The rest of the world does too.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:41 pmBeck is one of the most revolting, stupid bigots on TV. What makes him worse than the others in my opinion (other than the racism, lies, smears, lack of research, hate-mongering, anti-U.S. comments, etc.) is the fact he thinks he’s so darned cute while he spews out his hate & lies. He’s really, really disgusting.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:42 pmAnd the really laughable part?? — Bush couldn’t even read the teleprompter!! How many misreadings, gaffes, errors, lies did Bush spew out to the U.S. — while supposedly reading prepared speeches!! There are probably more idiotic statements on record by Bush than anyone – EVER- in politics.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:45 pmBush couldn’t pronounce teleprompter much less use one.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:48 pmsorry, dasm, but I think Dan Quayle holds that record. GW pushed the envelope though.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:50 pmTeleprompter? What a silly bunch of fools. After the Criminal Bush, what a bunch of stupid people. They have nothing. RepubliCons are brainless, no wonder, they have to turn to crime. They can not function in a normal world.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:51 pmJust another indication Beck has a personality disorder.
-AF
March 25th, 2009 at 6:51 pmIf this is the best meme they can come up with out of last night, we’re in the clear.
March 25th, 2009 at 6:55 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
So, when Obama smacked down Ed Henry at yesterday’s press conference…
Was he using a teleprompter to deliver the crushing rejoinder, “Because I like to know what I’m talking about before I speak”?
Yep, that was pretty…that’s the way they do it in Britain and elsewhere, where the press isn’t a bunch of corporate lickspittles.
i thin’ The Prez made an enemy weeth that one, Loosie
March 25th, 2009 at 6:56 pmWhat was Glenn doing with his hands?
March 25th, 2009 at 6:59 pmGlenn Beck is the apotheosis of ‘the celebrity,’ as Daniel Boorstin defined it in the ’60s:
A celebrity: Someone known for being known.
No more to it than that…
March 25th, 2009 at 6:59 pmBush used a teleprompter, could’t speak coherently on his own=OK
March 25th, 2009 at 7:00 pmBeck uses a teleprompter=OK
Obama uses a teleprompter for his prepared remarks but sounds articulate and in command of facts and figures extemporaneously=HORRIBLE PRESIDENT
Conclusion=IOKIYR
Using technology is something the backward leaning troglodytes can handle. Using a teleprompter instead of notes written in crayon on a big chief pad, scares these morons.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:01 pmBeck, I would like to know what medications this guy is own. Anybody?????
March 25th, 2009 at 7:03 pmGlenn Beck was brough on at Fox News for those not smart enough to “understand” Hannity or O’Reilly.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:03 pmRemember in the 04 debate when chimpy was wearing that huge rectangular box under his coat? Getting fed answers by pig-face Rove no doubt. “Let me finish! Let me finish!” Uh Bush, nobody is talking to you. Conspiracy, maybe. Possible, hell yes. And now we have the current Pres. using a (gasp) teleprompter. Oh the horror!!
March 25th, 2009 at 7:05 pmSomeone should ask Glen if he was outraged at Sarah’s use of that evil device at the GOP convention. At least they don’t have to phonetically spell words for Obama.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:07 pmHey, wasnt Bill-O using a teleprompter when started cussing and ranting: “f__k it! We’ll do it live!!”
March 25th, 2009 at 7:10 pmGelenn Beck is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life
March 25th, 2009 at 7:11 pmGod damn that extraneous letter “e”…
March 25th, 2009 at 7:11 pmIf only you had a teleprompter..
March 25th, 2009 at 7:13 pmBush using a teleprompter is OK.
Beck himself using one is OK.
Every news anchor in the world uses a teleprompter, that’s OK.
But Obama using one? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The most evil thing a president has ever done in the entire history of the USA!!!!!!
The Republic cannot stand if this continues!!!!!!!
March 25th, 2009 at 7:15 pmAnyone remember when McCain was to give a speach at the Clinton Forum and Bill Clinton walked off with his speach? LOL
March 25th, 2009 at 7:19 pmI bet Grampy wished he had a teleprompter that day rather than having to look like a fool chasing Bill across the stage.
Glenn Beck spends his days now telling his listeners that he doesn’t want armed militias to be formed out of his “We Surround Them” bullcrap. Uh ha. Yeah, whatever.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:22 pmRush Limbaugh uses a teleprompter AND an earpiece. Seems to me ole Rushy should pull himself up by the bootstraps and get rid of all that technology around him to prove to us how manly and smart he truly is.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:23 pmI’m sure I’ll be attacked because I’m a conservative but my view on the whole teleprompter thing is that it’s funny. It doesn’t mean anything and to most conservatives, it’s a joke. I find it entertaining but has no real merit.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:24 pmMisplace concern!!! Where is his outrage for the AIG bonus?
March 25th, 2009 at 7:27 pmBTW, is Beck mentally i ll?
p2p…not trying to argue here but why is Beck menatally ill?
March 25th, 2009 at 7:27 pmIt’s not that Glenn Beck is hard to like. He’s IMPOSSIBLE to like!
March 25th, 2009 at 7:28 pmaksarben60 Says:
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I’m sure I’ll be attacked because I’m a conservative
You wont be attacked by me just because your a conservative.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:28 pmBush was the Manchurian candidate. His puppet master- Cheney , oil industry, and religious nutwings.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:29 pmaksarben60, you ask why is Beck mentally ill. Did you read the subject matter before posting?
March 25th, 2009 at 7:30 pmaksarben60, do you believe that Obama is a ‘Manchurian Candidate?’
March 25th, 2009 at 7:31 pmYes, I read the subject matter and I watched the entire show, hellinabucket. I’m just curious as to why people think he’s a nut job? REally…not trying to start a fight…I really just want to know.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:33 pmThank you, New England Indy. :)
March 25th, 2009 at 7:33 pmBelac…no, I don’t believe that.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:35 pmBeck is a self proclaimed recovering drug addict and though he should be commended for kicking it there are residual problems that can arise such as paranoia. Beck seems to be a classic example of this. What is that Friday thing he does..the “Doom Room”?
March 25th, 2009 at 7:37 pmAnd after reading the subject matter you come away with what opinion of Mr. Beck? Please inform me aksarben60.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:39 pmaksarben60 Says:
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p2p…not trying to argue here but why is Beck menatally ill?
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March 25th, 2009 at 7:39 pmI must admit I don’t watch his show or any of the Fox shows, but when I was channel surfing, I came accross his show and he was rambling about that “we are sorrounded” speil (sp?). WTF! The man is paranoid.
totally off topic- aksarben are you from Neb. There was once an arena in Omaha called the aksarben. I saw Nirvana there in the early nineties.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:39 pmOn topic- Yes Beck is insane. Here is his logic: When Keith Ellison, a muslim, was elected to the H of Rep. Beck demanded that he prove he wasn’t working with our enemies. WTF? The man is coco puffs.
I haven’t seen the doom room yet…I’ll let you know what I think once i see it. I’m not usually home to catch his show, just happened to be home today.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:39 pmaksarben60… he made these comments on his radio show this morning… are you sure you ‘watched the entire thing?’
March 25th, 2009 at 7:42 pmAnother gem from Beck: The guy in Alabama that went on a shooting spree a couple weeks back, Beck said the guy was probably acting out because he had to be PC all the time and he just couldn’t say what he felt. That is moronic!!
March 25th, 2009 at 7:43 pmp2p…the “we are surrounded” is actually the beginning of the statemend “they don’t surround us, we surround them”. Meaning, we are the ones who hold the government accountable, not the other way around. I believe that is true no matter what side of the aisle you are on. If you have a chance, check out http://www.the912project.com. Go in with an open mind…I find it pretty interesting. Don’t read the posts because they are mostly conservative rants but the concept of the project (that we should remember how we came together as a country on 9/12/2001) is really interesting. Let me know what you think!
March 25th, 2009 at 7:43 pmbuzzbomb…i don’t think that is moronic…the shooting, that is moronic but feeling upset and pent up because of the perception or feeling that one can’t speak up is a valid feeling. Now, the actions that accompanied that is absurd. Maybe we should all (including me) should try to understand what someone is saying more that just words…does that even make sense?
March 25th, 2009 at 7:45 pmYeah, like Alabama is such a hotbed of political correctness. Right.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:46 pmI didn’t hear Beck saying we surround the government when Chimpy was in power. He would cut down anybody who dared challenge his king, Bush.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:46 pmbelac…he talked about it on his show on TV today as well.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:46 pmMy full name is Eugenie “Glenn Beck” Rose. Of the two names I’ve always favored Rose, ’cause it smells of brown soap and beer. Glenn Beck is somehow more fragile.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:47 pmbuzz…I am originally from Nebraska…now in Colorado. Not many people catch that! I even have a cat named Osborne…I know…I’m a bit obsessed! :)
March 25th, 2009 at 7:47 pmaksarben60 Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 7:48 pm======================
the site you posted is “under construcion.”
Why is Beck mentally ill is a question that will be asked for decades.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:48 pmI think Beck is pretty disillusioned by the government right now, as many of us are and a lot of it stems from years in the Bush admin and even going back to the Clinton admin. I think many of us think that Congress is and has been out of control for some time.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:50 pmYou may be right, hellinabucket.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:50 pmMaybe we should all (including me) should try to understand what someone is saying more that just words…does that even make sense?
Maybe if we all (including Glen Beck) put a little more thought into what we were saying instead of just spouting nonsense people wouldn’t need to ‘explain’ what they meant when the called the President of the United States ‘a Manchurian Candidate’ or when they said they ‘hope he fails…’
Just a thought…
March 25th, 2009 at 7:50 pmYes, conservative rants can be so embarrassing.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:50 pmaskerben60, is it a rationale thing to call the President of the United States, that was elected by a larger majority than the last one by far, the Manchurian Candidate because he uses a device that has been used by politicians world wide for several decades now?
Please answer this question.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:51 pmAs to Mr. Beck…
His brain has not only been washed, as they say… It has been dry cleaned.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:51 pmp2p…I didn’t post a site…did I?
March 25th, 2009 at 7:51 pmThe sentiment of the 9/12 project is admirable, the hypocrisy of Glenn Beck and Chuck Norris foisting this on people is ridiculous. They weren’t to worried about the evils of government during the last 8 years of evil government.
They don’t have a problem with government, they have a problem with democrats being in control of government.
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As to the shooter, if he was “feeling pent up” he should have seen a therapist, not gone on a shooting spree. For Beck to excuse his murderous rampage because his feelings were stifled is nuts.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:51 pmSorry…hell…all presidents have used a teleprompter; the joke amoung the conservatives is that our current POTUS has used it more than any other pres in history. Like I said before though…I don’t really care and find it funny that it’s even an issue.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:53 pmxero…I understand what you’re saying. I don’t look at it as Beck excusing it but that’s just my perspective but I do agree, that if this bozo was pent up, he should have seeked help through a therapist and not a gun.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:54 pmaksarben60 Says:
March 25th, 2009 at 7:56 pmhttp://www.the912project.com. Go in with an open mind
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This-whatever you called- a site, linked, ect-is under construction.
http://www.the912project.com/
hmmm…I just went there…don’t know why it didn’t work for you
March 25th, 2009 at 7:58 pmSorry…my mind is a bit whack a doo today…totally forgot I’d posted that site.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:59 pmFirst of all, who determined that Obama uses a teleprompter more than any other president in history?
But I agree, it’s a ridiculous criticism to make. It’s only an issue because the right wing seems to think it’s important. My guess is because they have nothing else to throw at the wall right now.
March 25th, 2009 at 7:59 pmSorry…hell…all presidents have used a teleprompter; the joke amoung the conservatives is that our current POTUS has used it more than any other pres in history. Like I said before though…I don’t really care and find it funny that it’s even an issue.
Look, you admit the TelePrompter is a non-issue… the question then becomes why, when there are so many deadly serious issues confronting Americans, ‘conservatives’ in the Government and Media continue to focus on these distractions you admit are not even an issue…
It’s only funny that Conservatives have no real opposition, only obstruction and obfuscation… don’t you agree?
March 25th, 2009 at 7:59 pmaksarben do you have documented proof that Obama has used the teleprompter more then any other president.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:00 pmralph…I’ve heard it on CNN…they do have stuff to throw right now but I don’t want to argue…don’t have the energy tonight; I don’t know why they’re making it an issue.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:00 pmThat site opened for me p2p.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:01 pmBSG…no, I don’t…read my post that came up after yours. As I’ve said, it’s not an issue to me.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:02 pmaksarben60, you didn’t quite answer the question. Mr. Beck thinks our President is the Manchurian candidate and he uses as proof the teleprompter. Now here’s the question again.
Is Mr. Beck thinking rationally when he makes that statement? Please answer this question and provide some thought to which you come to your conclusion.
Could you please offer some evidence to support your claim that President Obama uses the teleprompter more than any other president in history. Keep in mind he’s been at the job less than 70 days.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:02 pmWho gives a crap whether Obama uses a teleprompter, a sheet of paper, or a stack of note cards when giving a speech?
Just another desperate attempt to criticize trivialities due to the inability to develop a cogent, substantive argument about Obama’s programs. In other words, I’m more interested in discussing WHAT he says, not HOW he chooses to deliver the message.
What’s next–the relative merits of belts vs. suspenders?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:02 pmWhat’s next–the relative merits of belts vs. suspenders?
I use a belt..I dont want to look like Larry King.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:04 pmSorry…hell…all presidents have used a teleprompter; the joke amoung the conservatives is that our current POTUS has used it more than any other pres in history. Like I said before though…I don’t really care and find it funny that it’s even an issue.
Look, you admit the TelePrompter is a non-issue… the question then becomes why, when there are so many deadly serious issues confronting Americans, ‘conservatives’ in the Government and Media continue to focus on these distractions you admit are not even an issue…
It’s only funny that Conservatives have no real opposition, only obstruction and obfuscation… don’t you agree?
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I don’t agree, with respect. I feel conservatives do have a valid opposition just as liberals believed they had a valid opposition to Bush. I believe conservatives have just as much a right as anyone else to stand up for what we believe in. I do think that the party has some massive reorganization to do and need to rethink their approach to some things. I don’t believe the GOP is the grand obstroctionist party…I do think it’s percevied (spelling?) that way because of opposing views and that’s okay.
Hi ralph!
“hope tastes good – like a cigarette should!”
March 25th, 2009 at 8:08 pmHell…it is not for me to judge if Beck is “thinking clearly”. I already said i don’t think Obama is the Manchurian Candidate. I’m not going to judge Beck as being mentally ill just because he made that comment…I just happen to disagree.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:08 pmAksarben60, then why do conservatives in the Government waste their time and ours with talk of ‘TelePrompters’ and ‘Manchurian Candidates’ instead of voicing that ‘valid opposition?’
March 25th, 2009 at 8:09 pmGovernment and Media, I mean
March 25th, 2009 at 8:10 pmIt’s considered good form to provide some sort of link to support a claim like this.
And yet you came to a progressive blog and announced that you’re a conservative. Curious.
There must be a reason. Perhaps they’ve come to feel that the stuff that they do have to throw at the wall ain’t sticking, so they might as well try something completely stupid…
the question then becomes… why is the stuff that they feel they DO have, not sticking?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:10 pmGlenn Beck is “Like Captain Idiot in Astounding Science comics”
March 25th, 2009 at 8:11 pmHell…I don’t know why you’re pushing this but here you go…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090305/pl_politico/19663
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19663.html
March 25th, 2009 at 8:12 pmralph…maybe the conservatives feel the teleprompter is an issue worth talking about just like the liberals thought Sarah palin’s wardrobe was worth talking about.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:13 pmbelac…they do voice valid opposition…it all comes down to what people chose to listen to. I’m sure I do the same thing with liberals. It is what it is.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:14 pmaskerben60, a comment like “your dress makes you look fat” is a poorly thought out comment. To call the President of the United States a puppet is much more.
Did you happen to see his crying episode a little while back? Or did you see him compare Al Gore to Nazis’?
What do you know about Mr. Beck?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:14 pmaksarben60 Says:
Sorry…hell…all presidents have used a teleprompter…
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Did that make Lincoln a Manchurian candidate too?
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I don’t believe the GOP is the grand obstroctionist party…I do think it’s percevied (spelling?) that way because of opposing views and that’s okay.
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I disagree. I can imagine that somewhere , somehow, there ARE principled conservatives who don’t like Obama’s initiatives. However, there would appear to be NEXT TO NONE of those in the current GOOP.
Didn’t Eisenhower’s and Goldwater’s own granddaughters spilt on that crowd? There’s a HUGE difference between “conservative” and “bat-shit crazy”, dude.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:16 pmBeck is such a moron – I don’t understand how people can sit thru one minute of his radio or tv show!? He has nothing else to pick on President Obama about. Bedlam Beck, get a life!
March 25th, 2009 at 8:17 pmHe cries a lot and I find it endearing that someone is so passionate about something that it brings out strong emotions in the form of tears. i didn’t see him compare Al Gore to the Nazis….believe it or not….I don’t catch everything every conservative says nor do I always agree.
I feel like I’ve got the light on me in the interogation room…why are you asking what I know about Beck? With all due respect, what is the point there and what does that have to do with anything?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:17 pmIt can take years to diagnose a mental illness and the patient needs to cooperate with his/her caregivers. But paranoia, which is a symptom of many mental illnesses, is apparent to any rational observer.
What are some of Becky’s most obvious displays of paranoia?
1. The whole weird episode with Chuck Norris which could be perceived as a call for armed rebellion against the lawful government of our country.
2. His constant attempts to define President Obama as a Marxist/Leninist/socialist/Muslim/atheist/communist.
3. His constant tearful rants, whether real or contrived, about various forces trying to ruin HIS country and control HIS behavior.
Aw Hell. I could go on for hours but I don’t wish to examine him that closely on a day I feel pretty good. The signs of mental illness are just too obvious to ignore.
As for his “nine principles”? Cenk Uygur breaks them down far better than I could myself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bzrctk7aRI&feature=channel_page
March 25th, 2009 at 8:17 pmThanks for those links, aksarben60.
I had already searched out the first. They are essentially the same article from Politico, which doesn’t have a great rep around here for solid journalism, but I don’t find anything suspicious about the article. It sounds like the judgment that this president relies on the teleprompter more than others has a good foundation.
This alone makes the story different from most right-wing criticisms of President Obama.
Its triviality, however, falls right in line.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:17 pmThe fact of the matter is it was a helluva lot easier to oppose Bush (illegal wiretapping, indefinite detention, starting and not finishing two wars, Cheney running the show) than Obama. I’ve heard this argument as of late regarding people opposing Obama, “it just like people opposing Bush” big difference-Bush committed massive crimes and fraud against our nation and others. Obama is trying to clean up the mess and repukes are obstructionist little sissies that can’t deal with not being in power anymore.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:18 pmWhat valid opposition? aksarben can you please tell me of these supposed alternitive proposals, I have yet to hear any from your leaders other then “NO”
March 25th, 2009 at 8:19 pm“no” is a valid oppostion. Many think these companies should have been allowed to fail, go into chapter 11 and restructure and I can’t say I totally disagree. There was an alternative stimulus bill proposed on the hill but shot down immediately by the dems.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:19 pmbelac…they do voice valid opposition…it all comes down to what people chose to listen to. I’m sure I do the same thing with liberals. It is what it is.
Beck has creative control of both his radio and television shows correct?
Can you explain who is forcing him to talk about this instead of his valid opposition?
People seem to listen to what he chooses to say on his show…
March 25th, 2009 at 8:20 pmMy only “issue” with Bible Spice is that she’s the most unqualified candidate for national office in my entire life. She’s brutally stupid. The whole wardrobe bit was just a minuscule example of her rank hypocrisy.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:20 pmPerhaps you’re right.
The underlying character issue with Gov. Palin’s wardrobe was twofold: accountability and extravagance.
What would you say the underlying character issue is with the teleprompter thing, if the words spoken are his own?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:20 pmBush frequently used a teleprompter and he still couldn’t get out a sentence that wasn’t garbled.
Personally I would rather have our President spend his valuable time working on the problems of this nation than on memorizing a speech.
If the talking heads are so upset about the use of teleprompters and think it’s wrong, I suggest they dare Fixed News to go a day without the use of a teleprompter.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:21 pmThanks for the links aksarben60. Sorry that you feel you are under the interrogation lamp but you were the one asking why do the people here think Mr. Beck is unstable. You’ve been given examples and then you ask why are you being asked about a man that you don’t know much about.
Is it possible that mr. beck is unstable and quite possibly mentally ill? Or just a schill lying to his viewers so he can pad his wallet?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:22 pmPete…I understand your position but keep in mind that palin actually had more qualifications that Obama but there was really no way the McCain/Palin ticket would have ever won. there were just too many people in the country who were upset.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:22 pmGlenn Beck is a fake crier. Anyone who can fake emotion like he does can get away with murder or forming armed militias subliminally.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:23 pmPerhaps he “uses a `prompter more than any other president..” because he actually speaks more. When nearly anyone speaks publicly, using prepared remarks, they use notes/hard copy/teleprompter.
Ergo, the more one speaks publicly (and the POTUS does, a lot) it would only be logical that he use the aforementioned aids, more.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:23 pmHell…I never once said I didn’t know anything about Beck. I don’t think he is lying I just think that with any commentator, which is what he is, he’s never claimed to be a journalist, we as the viewers need to decide what we believe but I don’t think that necessarily makes him a liar.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:24 pmaksarben60 Says:
“no” is a valid oppostion. Many think these companies should have been allowed to fail, go into chapter 11 and restructure and I can’t say I totally disagree. There was an alternative stimulus bill proposed on the hill but shot down immediately by the dems.
So to you the only thing that you would approve would be if the Democrats did exactly what the Republicant’s wanted them to do.
So tell me, what did you think about the first six years of the Bush Administration where the Republicant’s in Congress didn’t allow any bills supported by Democrats to even get out of committee onto the floor? The Republicant’s completely shut the Democrats out of the political process for 6 years and then spent the next two years filibustering everything they tried to do.
So what did you think about that one-party rule?
Personally, I think that the Democrats should treat the Republicant’s exactly the same way they were treated for the last 8 years. I think they are being way too nice and way too inclusive.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:24 pmNo, “no” is not VALID opposition if you bring nothing to replace what you dislike. If they’re not going to bring policy to the table then they need to stop with the hypocritical bs
March 25th, 2009 at 8:24 pmxero…you’re right about that…he does talk a lot! I think he likes to hear himself speak…hahaha…i don’t know that for sure.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:25 pmaksarben60 Says:
palin actually had more qualifications that Obama
She had nearly the same qualifications as Bush, and that worked out well.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:25 pmIs “no” a valid opposition to someone who is being raped?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:26 pmDid everyone see David Letterman’s new segment called, “No Teleprompter v. Teleprompter”? Hysterical! Last night he showed President Obama talking fabulously with the teleprompter (doing the State of the Union speech) and then George Bush without a teleprompter….fumbling his words, gesturing as if he’s drowning, and trying to speak a sentence! Laugh out loud funny.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:26 pmaksarben60 Says:
you’re right about that…he does talk a lot! I think he likes to hear himself speak
He likes to, you know, actually talk to the people he represents. Its refreshing to see a President want to engage with the country, rather than hide from it. A matter of perspective, I guess.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pmIn the case of rape, no is valid opposition, but what does rape have to do with financial policy?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:27 pmIs “no” a valid opposition to someone who is being raped?
Is being a Republican in the minority the equivalent of being raped?
Strange… I don’t know many in either party who’d agree with that…
March 25th, 2009 at 8:28 pmSpeaking of rape, do you agree with Bill O’Reilly that any woman wearing a mini-shirt is just asking to be raped and we shouldn’t sympathize with her when she does get raped….because she caused her own predicament?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:28 pmBilbo…I agree that the republicans didn’t treat the dems very well when they were in power and ipso facto…the dems will treat the repubs the same way they were treated, the people shouldn’t act so surprised when Obama is treated the same way Bush was. Look…I think the one party line is stupid and I really wish there was an actual way for us all to agree but I wonder, is there a way? Or do we fundamentally disagree so much that we’ll never be on the same page? I don’t know.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:29 pmaksarben60 Says:
Pete…I understand your position but keep in mind that palin actually had more qualifications that Obama but there was really no way the McCain/Palin ticket would have ever won. there were just too many people in the country who were upset.
Now that is just about the dumbest thing I have heard any troll say. A Harvard graduate vs. a mediocre college graduate who took 6 years to get a degree. A mayor who came into office with zero debt for her town and left it $20 million in debt. Then two years as a governor of one of the least populous state in the nation vs. someone who spent 8 years in a state legislature and two as a sitting Senator. Someone who speaks in word salad vs an eloquent speaker.
Yeah, you’re right. Palin was way more qualified than Obama.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:29 pmaksarben60, I didn’t call Beck a liar, even though calling someone something that person isn’t would qualify, I’m calling him mentally unstable.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:30 pmDamn… I was hoping we had a new reasonable oppositional voice to discuss things.
That hope looks mighty shaky now.
Anyone who thinks that Sarah Palin had “more qualifications” than Barack Obama is not one to be taken seriously. Sorry, bud.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:31 pmaksarben60 Says:
Bilbo…I agree that the republicans didn’t treat the dems very well when they were in power and ipso facto…the dems will treat the repubs the same way they were treated, the people shouldn’t act so surprised when Obama is treated the same way Bush was.
Except for the fact that President Obama has tried very hard to include the Republicant’s into the legislative process and all they have done is bite his hand. And they have been treating Obama badly since the day he was elected, much less from the day he took office.
I remember the Democrats being rather supportive of Bush, especially after 911. It wasn’t until he declared war on our privacy, started an unnecessary war and shredded the constitution that Democrats started criticizing them.
BTW, you are about the lamest “concerned troll” that has visited us in a very long time.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:32 pmLet’s think about John McCain and Sarah Palin in the White House right now….
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*shudder*
They would be telling us right now that everything is fine, go shopping, and don’t forget to buy some extra canned goods ‘just in case’!
March 25th, 2009 at 8:33 pmBilbo, one correction… Obama had been a Senator for four years, not two. He was elected in 2004.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:33 pmxero Says:
aksarben60 Says:
you’re right about that…he does talk a lot! I think he likes to hear himself speak
He likes to, you know, actually talk to the people he represents. Its refreshing to see a President want to engage with the country, rather than hide from it. A matter of perspective, I guess.
I believe he actually feels the need to talk to us directly because the MSM is distorting everything he says and is planning doing to the extent that the only way our President can get the truth out there is by speaking directly to “we the people”. I for one am very grateful for it.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:33 pmBilbo…
aksarben60 Says:
Pete…I understand your position but keep in mind that palin actually had more qualifications that Obama but there was really no way the McCain/Palin ticket would have ever won. there were just too many people in the country who were upset.
Now that is just about the dumbest thing I have heard any troll say. A Harvard graduate vs. a mediocre college graduate who took 6 years to get a degree. A mayor who came into office with zero debt for her town and left it $20 million in debt. Then two years as a governor of one of the least populous state in the nation vs. someone who spent 8 years in a state legislature and two as a sitting Senator. Someone who speaks in word salad vs an eloquent speaker.
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Now, why did you have to go and call me a troll? That wasn’t nice. #1, The $20 million of debt was something that town voted on in order to build a rec center so they knew it was there. #2, Why is it a valid arguement that she was mayor of a small city…why does that invalidate her office? #3, Obama spent most of his 2 years in the united stated senate running for president. #4, Was Obama an eloquent speaker when he said he’d been to 56 states or when he said “America is uh, uh, uh…”.
I didn’t attack you and have been trying to be really understanding of points of view in here I understand where a lot of you are coming from but you didn’t need to call me a troll and say what I wrote was dumb.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:34 pmaksarben60, will the right allow for an invasion of two more countries and increased spying on their own countrymen before speaking out against President Obama?
How many words can Obama mangle before reaching Bush’s level? Will Obama be allowed to completely lockout the other side from any decision making like the republicans did?
It’s not the same by far. It’s too bad that there’s a rush to move away from the destructive operations of the Bush administration and to move to the miniscule picking of nits about the Obama administration.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:36 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Anyone who thinks that Sarah Palin had “more qualifications” than Barack Obama is not one to be taken seriously. Sorry, bud.
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(TRoS sighs and sadly shakes his head…)
When yer right, yer right… and ralphie… yer right.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:36 pmhell…I get what you’re saying. You did sort of call him a liar though…maybe i misunderstood what you wrote though…
hellinabucket Says:
Is it possible that mr. beck is unstable and quite possibly mentally ill? Or just a schill lying to his viewers so he can pad his wallet?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:37 pmaksarben60 Says:
I didn’t attack you and have been trying to be really understanding of points of view in here I understand where a lot of you are coming from but you didn’t need to call me a troll and say what I wrote was dumb.
I called you a troll because you are a troll and I called you dumb because you are dumb.
And you haven’t a clue where any of us are coming from. You are a tone deaf right winger and all you hear is what you are programmed to hear by your masters.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:37 pmaksarben60 Says:
Bilbo…I agree that the republicans didn’t treat the dems very well when they were in power and ipso facto…the dems will treat the repubs the same way they were treated,
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But the Dems haven’t been treating them the same way. Obama went out of his way to try and include the GOOPers. Sorry… that’s a false equivalency.
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… the people shouldn’t act so surprised when Obama is treated the same way Bush was.
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You mean, like when Botch had a 92% approval rating?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:39 pmSo, you bring up 56 states huh, why not I bring up McCains statement to a Iowa newspaper, didn’t he say he always wanted to be a dictator, , He never did correct it (them) did he?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:39 pmI stand corrected aksarben60. The schill part was in the form of him not believing what he’s pushing and collecting a fat paycheck due to the dolts that do.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:40 pmLook, Bilbo…call me what you want. You think I’m dumb because I don’t agree with you. I don’t have an understanding of where you’re coming from….THAT’S WHY I’M HERE…to learn. Why harp on someone because of wanting to learn? You seem so quick to turn on someone. I am actually not a tone deaf right winger…I may be one of the most open minded conservatives or maybe not but give me a chance. I’ve only been here a few hours…not much of a chance.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:40 pmNo, aksarben60, Ms. Palin is not more qualified than President Obama. She’s a dangerously ignorant, and intellectually deficient, ideologue. She’s: dishonest, bigoted, dogmatic, vindictive, petty, dishonorable, reckless, partisan, primitive, delusional, aggressive and incurious.
And she’s effing stupid as well.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:40 pmWell thank God that Sarah Palin can still see Russia from where she is.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:40 pmGotcha hellinabucket….point taken. :)
March 25th, 2009 at 8:40 pmAnd thus is launched the familiar “they’re all the same” argument.
It is simply not true.
Yes, politicians are politicians.
But Democrats are not the same as Republicans. One difference — party discipline. Republicans are famous for it, always have been. Democrats? Let’s let Will Rogers explain:
“I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.”
The idea that Democrats will behave exactly as Republicans behaved is, I think, an attempt to minimalize the dishonor of the Republican leadership from 1994 to 2006.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:41 pmPalin reads all the papers.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:41 pmPete…I really do understand your perspective…I just don’t agree with it.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:41 pmThanks but no thanks
March 25th, 2009 at 8:41 pmYou betcha
March 25th, 2009 at 8:42 pmBTW. Becky’s infatuation with Bible Spice is another proof of his mental deficiencies.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:43 pmPete…not being a liberal…forgive my ignorance…who is bible spice?
March 25th, 2009 at 8:44 pmThe $20 million of debt was something that town voted on in order to build a rec center so they knew it was there.
You’re right, they voted on it by a 20 vote margin. I guess she was able to intimidate enough people to vote for the boondoggle. And it ended up in being way more expensive than it needed to be because of Ms. Palin’s screw-ups including the fact that she started building before the city had legal title to the land. Please educate yourself and read the article.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122065537792905483.html
March 25th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Well…you all would probably be really proud of me…O’Reilly is on right now and we have it on the TV but I’m so interested in chatting with you all, I haven’t even paid much attention to him.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:45 pmBen Gleck, all stupid, all the time.
The hack has no shame.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:46 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
The idea that Democrats will behave exactly as Republicans behaved is, I think, an attempt to minimalize the dishonor of the Republican leadership from 1994 to 2006.
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As the French would say… Bingeau!
A direct hit. No doubt, “aksarben60″ is taking on water rapidly in the moment.
BTW, ralphie… I noticed The B-Cup Rehabilitation Tour was in full swing today.
Trying to repair the self-inflicted damage from the Stewart/Cramer thread, no doubt.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:46 pmaksarben60 Says:
Look, Bilbo…call me what you want. You think I’m dumb because I don’t agree with you.
No, I think you are dumb because you haven’t made one intelligent post.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:47 pmaksarben60 Says:
Pete…not being a liberal…forgive my ignorance…who is bible spice?
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Hmmm…. this comment sure kinda clunks…
March 25th, 2009 at 8:47 pmbaby steps aksrben60, good for you.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:47 pmI think Beck is turning into Howard “I’m Mad As Hell And I’m Not Going To Take It Anymore!” Beal. Maybe he’ll just skip to the good part and blow his brains out on his TV show. Think of the ratings!
March 25th, 2009 at 8:48 pmaksarben60
March 25th, 2009 at 8:48 pmOnce you walk away from TV you never really want to go back. On occasion there are things of interest but otherwise it is sort of just a bad habit like cigarettes or one too many drinks, or whatever people do but don’t need to and probably shouldn’t
aksarben60 Says:
Well…you all would probably be really proud of me…O’Reilly is on right now and we have it on the TV but I’m so interested in chatting with you all, I haven’t even paid much attention to him.
Please, we would all much rather you paid attention to your master. He may give you some good new talking points.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:48 pmBilbo…I’m thinking you’re a bit of a hypocrit. You’re sayign I follow a “master” which is not true…I make up my own mind but you’re displaying words and thoughts that say you’re following a “master” as well. But, I guess that standard doesn’t apply to you….just to those who are conservatives. OKay.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:51 pmI agree, you don’t deserve to be labeled a troll at this point.
So let’s take your arguments one at a time:
#1, The $20 million of debt was something that town voted on in order to build a rec center so they knew it was there.
So your argument isn’t that she’s not a borrow-and-spend conservative; it’s that everyone else was okay with incurring the debt. Okay, fine. But you don’t get to claim a record of “fiscal responsibility” that way, do you?
#2, Why is it a valid arguement that she was mayor of a small city…why does that invalidate her office?
It doesn’t invalidate her office. But you stated quote clearly that she had more qualifications than Obama. This is an absurd claim on its face. Fact is, she was mayor of a town so small that her position was part-time:
The Wasilla city council is made up of six members who are elected at-large by residents to designated seats. They serve for three years, unless appointed to fill a vacant seat. The Office of Mayor is elected separately. A run-off election will be held if no candidate for Mayor receives more than 40% of the votes cast. Run-off elections are not held for city council seats. All positions are part time.
This detail would seem to be relevant when comparing the work experience of the two candidates, would it not?
#3, Obama spent most of his 2 years in the united stated senate running for president.
As pointed out above, Barack Obama was elected to the US Senate in 2004. He spent FOUR years in the Senate.
#4, Was Obama an eloquent speaker when he said he’d been to 56 states or when he said “America is uh, uh, uh…”
As a Republican, you really have precious little room to criticize a candidate who misspeaks (he meant to say “46″ rather than “56″, as he had been to 46 states at that point).
Yes, it was embarrassing for the candidate. but for some reason the right wing seems to think that was a profound moment for Obama, but they dismiss statements like this from his predecessor:
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
March 25th, 2009 at 8:52 pmOther that hellinabucket and new england Indy, who have actually been nice to me and allowed me to participate in a conversation without being attacked, you all are a bunch of mean spirited, disrespectful, closed-minded drones with typical liberal spin. I wish I could continue a conversation because I actually enjoyed chatting earlier, but most of you have made me feel unwelcome and completely unwilling to allow me to try to listen to you as well share my opinions. I suppose you are really elitists and are smarter than I, but it makes me sad that I haven’t been allowed to participate witout being attacked.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:53 pmI’ll bite.
“Bible Spice” is my pet name for the most dangerously stupid, and superficial, candidate I can recall.
And yes. A big part of my objection to her candidacy is her fundamentalist, witch hunting, 6,000 year old Earth, bat-scat crazy religious fanaticism. And much of my objection to Glenn Beck is his devotion to such a pig-ignorant candidate for the second highest office in the land.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:54 pmRalp, you just gotta love Bushisms, just like this one on the second part of this clip,
March 25th, 2009 at 8:55 pmWell said Ralph.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:56 pm, Sh#t this clip, im still kinda new ;)
March 25th, 2009 at 8:56 pmMost of you should be ashamed of yourselves. I won’t visit again. I’m sorry for trying to learn and expand my views of liberals…right now, most of you have done nothing but confirm my views that liberals are mean and selfish. good bye.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:57 pmaksarben60 Says:
Other that hellinabucket and new england Indy, who have actually been nice to me and allowed me to participate in a conversation without being attacked, you all are a bunch of mean spirited, disrespectful, closed-minded drones with typical liberal spin.
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Okay… okay… the one-size-fits-all, blanket condemnation of every one here…
“you all are a bunch of…”.
Next… the closing number… wait… wait… it’s coming…
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I wish I could continue a conversation because I actually enjoyed chatting earlier, but most of you have made me feel unwelcome and completely unwilling to allow me to try to listen to you as well share my opinions. I suppose you are really elitists and are smarter than I, but it makes me sad that I haven’t been allowed to participate witout being attacked.
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YES!!! We have it…
“I come here to discuss things, but you people…”
Remember folks, it ain’t over to the wingnutter whines…
March 25th, 2009 at 8:57 pmThe idea that President Obama is being completely controlled by an agency through electronic means is right up there with the belief that the CIA is planting bombs in ones car. The Manchurian Candidate is sci-fi.
And Obama isn’t a candidate—he’s the president.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:57 pmaksarben60,
March 25th, 2009 at 8:58 pmIf I remember right, that whole 56 state thing was Obama talking about 56 contest due to somes states having both Caucuses as well as primaries and factor in Guam’ Puerto rico, the Virgen Islands..This was either taken out of context or politicly motivated..with all respect.
Hellooooo…?
When did I attack you? When did I show you disrespect?
And come on… “closed-minded drones with typical liberal spin”?
Kinda sounds like you came here looking to play the victim. Just sayin’.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:58 pmaksarben, I have only tried to get you to bring proof but you bring none, and then play victim.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:58 pmTRoS, you take all the mystery out of this process sometimes…
And yeah, I tried one more time to bang some sense into b-cup’s thick skull, but I gotta keep reminding myself WHO he is and WHAT his game is.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:59 pmaksarben60, I really don’t see where you were endlessly attacked. maybe you should just read and view other material than that of the Fox News brand to get an idea of liberals.
You came into this thread asking why Beck is thought to be a nutcase and when given examples you didn’t alter your view of Beck even though you didn’t offer much of a defense for him.
What did you expect?
I’m all for you coming back. Just come back prepared.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:01 pmYa ever hear that old cliche, “you see what you want to see”?
Sounds like it might fit pretty well here.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:01 pmSecond that.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:01 pmAw c’mon. I haven’t even called you a stupid troll.
But seriously. It’s far past time to stop being polite to people who are facilitating the destruction of our country. We’re pissed. And I, for one, will never surrender a point to someone who’s fundamentally wrong.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:02 pmI agree pete. Beck scares me more than most of the other fearmongers. He’s unhinged and trying to tap into the other unhinged.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:05 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
And yeah, I tried one more time to bang some sense into b-cup’s thick skull, but I gotta keep reminding myself WHO he is and WHAT his game is.
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B-cup: the Pernicious Anemia of TP trolling. I was sorry the other morning that I didn’t have time to stick around and clobber him when he was promoting that nonsense that people on the left who wanted Botch impeached were just as irrelevant as the righties calling for Obama’s impeachment now.
Talk about BS.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:05 pmDayum, TRoS, you do have a way with a well-turned phrase.
Too bad you can’t use this power for Good.
– oh, wait… you are!
March 25th, 2009 at 9:09 pm“Gosh, I feel just awful, aksarben60. You seemed so reasonable and all. Maybe we could have swayed you to our way of thinking if only we had treated you better. Now all is lost and I’m just sick to my stomach about it. My evening is ruined.”
That’s how you’d like us to feel, right? After all, that’s why you came here in the first place.
Such a clever plan.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:09 pmchiropractors must be making a killing treating all the whiplash going on over at fox news/RNC these days…
seriously, its like they’re just talking to hear themselves… owait, they are. today’s “conservatives” have no message to send or ideas to get us out of the problems we face, they have turned into real life versions of statler and waldorf, the two cranky old muppets who used to make fun of everything…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14njUwJUg1I
every time i hear glenn beck talk im just waiting for the punchline… sadly, his are never any good.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:10 pmIt is really disturbing, hellinabucket. I can’t recall a single prominent, legitimate, voice who suggested that we act outside the law while Bushco gleefully danced towards disaster. But these Reichwhiners are pouring gas on a fire.
Some famous guy I can’t recall said: “When the flames of revolution are stoked, all are consumed“.
And these effing fools who are fanning the flames are as likely to burn as those who are making hard choices to fix things.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:16 pmAgreed pete, there’s too much money to be made in inciting. And too much to lose from those who made the deals in the last administration.
Beck is dangerous and he’s banking on it.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:20 pmWith props to Teleman, here’s a song for the terrified obstructionists of the GOP. Though I suspect Ol’ Groucho was addressing those who stood in the way of FDR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtMV44yoXZ0
March 25th, 2009 at 9:23 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Dayum, TRoS, you do have a way with a well-turned phrase.
Too bad you can’t use this power for Good.
– oh, wait… you are!
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Oh, trust me, ralphie… I use it fer Evil too…
Plenty O’ Evil… He he he…
March 25th, 2009 at 9:23 pmscat chat
March 25th, 2009 at 9:27 pmWelcome again, speshuled67. Great minds think alike and, apparently, so do ours. Statler and Waldorf are, indeed, fine examples of “the party of no”. Though, to be fair, much of the stuff they hated was pretty bad.
March 25th, 2009 at 9:29 pmHi chat
March 25th, 2009 at 9:45 pmGood evening db.
I had horny geese “courting” on my roof this morning. Noisy bastards! Most days I’m a free love kinda guy but, I was tempted to break out the shotgun.
I also spotted a bittern in the pond down the road and, at least, two of the local swans are back.
March 25th, 2009 at 10:09 pm.
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March 26th, 2009 at 1:33 amFlag the CHIT outta CHAT!
March 26th, 2009 at 1:34 amaksarben60 Says:
I won’t visit again. good bye.
March 25th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
March 26th, 2009 at 8:34 amAnyone who thinks that Sarah Palin had “more qualifications” than Barack Obama is not one to be taken seriously. Sorry, bud.
Let’s see. A community organizer vs a Governor. Hmmmm.
March 26th, 2009 at 11:57 amGuess America didn’t see it your way on that one, huh?
Our candidate’s running the country. Your candidate’s a punchline.
Too bad, so sad.
March 26th, 2009 at 1:51 pmMarch 27th, 2009 at 12:12 am
Not really, TOTUS (teleprompter of the United States) is actually running things. Just look what happens when he’s off the teleprompter!
March 30th, 2009 at 3:20 pm