Pressed By MSNBC, Pence Is Unable To Say What Deficit Would Be Under New GOP Budget
Pressed By MSNBC, Pence Is Unable To Say What Deficit Would Be Under New GOP Budget
Earlier this week, President Obama challenged Republicans who have been ripping his budget proposal, saying, “Critics tend to criticize, but they don’t offer an alternative budget.” Today, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) released a GOP budget called “The Republican Road to Recovery.” “Here it is, Mr. President,” he said, proudly waving it in the air.
Except this “budget” is short on one key detail: numbers. The AP calls it “a glossy pamphlet short on detail and long on campaign-style talking points.” The budget proposes heavy tax cuts to the wealthy, which have time and again exploded the deficit. Today, MSNBC’s Norah O’Donnell challenged Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) to say what the deficit impact of the GOP plan would be. Pence awkwardly tried to change the subject:
Q: So you don’t have the numbers now? About what you’re plan would be in terms of how it would cut the deficit or add to the deficit? You don’t have any numbers on that?
PENCE: Well, it’s really a broad – when the White House a few minutes ago was attacking the numbers in this bill, the tax cut numbers. There’s plenty of numbers in the Republican recovery plan. And we just really believe the President’s plan to raise taxes by nearly 2 trillion dollars on almost every American…deserves a debate on Capitol Hill.
Without details, “how is your plan credible?” asked O’Donnell. “Well, I thought through this morning, we didn’t have a plan, so it may be progress our plan is being attacked,” Pence responded. “This is the broad outline,” he said, stating that the GOP would introduce a bill soon. Watch it:
Pence is unable to specify what the deficit would result under his plan because his plan simply doesn’t say so. The plan contains three charts: “Gov spending as percentage of GDP,” “Future Debt Burden, and “Deficit Under Democratic Budgets.” Yet there is no chart about the GOP budget. Under “Republican Solutions” to excessive spending, the document states:
And Republicans would fully fund our ongoing commitments overseas while devoting the entirety of any savings from reduced fighting to deficit reduction, rebuilding our military, and funding our commitment to our veterans.
In a press conference today, reporters pressed Boehner on why the plan was so short on numbers. “What’s your goal?” “To do better,” said Boehner. “How much?” “You’ll see next week,” he said.
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But, but, we have a glossy pamphlet. Pathetic
March 26th, 2009 at 4:19 pmPressed By MSNBC, Pence Is Unable To Say What Deficit Would Be Under New GOP Budget
– - Of course not. All these clowns have is bluster and their “righteous” indignation. The GOP needs to man-up and face facts; you guys LOST. Now suck it.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:21 pmWhat can you expect from a crew who can’t even tell which flabby old white guy is their captain? Maybe they should just settle on that annoying little tween kid
March 26th, 2009 at 4:21 pmLook at the DOW and the Nasdaq. For almost 2 weeks straight now they’ve been up. And many days WAY up. Today the DOW’s up over a full 2 percent, and the Nas is up almost 4!
And its been like that consistently for weeks. Ever since a few days after the President’s State of the Union.
Clearly the President’s programs ARE working. He said it would be a slow steady process and that’s exactly what we’re seeing. Before the SOTU the DOW was down in the 6’s. Now its ready to break 8. That doesn’t happen in a recessed market. It happens during the recovery of a recessed market, but not in one.
So I’m not sure why no ones talking about it (perhaps afraid of jinxing it, lol) but the fact is we’ve seen a strong and steady resurgence of the markets, and we’ve seen solid economic indicators in housing and elsewhere showing us that the President’s plan of STIMULUS, IS working.
Its time for the republicans to either get behind the President on this or get the hell out of the way.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:23 pmIt’s like watching a high schooler try to BS his way through a book report.
http://www.pufferfishblog.com/
March 26th, 2009 at 4:24 pmGod, I wish I could produce budgets with no numbers. But, the annoying fact is budgets are only numbers, not talking points.
Pence’s head is as empty as their budget.
The Bonerization of America; all talk and no facts.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:25 pmDon’t you know? It’s still the same piss flows down VOODOO ECONOMICS. You know the one, where cutting taxes on the filthy rich and cutting spending on the poor magically balances the budget.
POOF! No more deficit. Same formula Ronnie (Bonzo) Ray-gun used.
sarc ON!
Time for me to go for the day.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:25 pmCarry on, libs.
He can say, but it would simply be to surrender any legislation to corporate interests and become docile, willing scullions to the 1% of the country that finds the government regulations and protections an inconvenience to their monopolies.
They need time to dress it up….
March 26th, 2009 at 4:26 pmNumbers? Shumbers… Republic-nuts don’t need to show no stinkin’numbers… What is wrong with you people? You gotta trust Republic-nuts. Worked for eight years under the Royal Emperor of Crawford, didn’t it?
Just sing along, kids: “I’ve got a loverly bunch of republican-nuts, see them, standing in a row: big ones, small ones, tanned ones, rich ones, some as big as your head…” With an apology to the great Danny Kaye.
The Republican-Emperor’s new clothes-budget. Oh, wait, the Emperor was deposed in late January. All that’s left of the Royal Dictatorship Court are a few motley REpublic-nut Fools, running around and shaking their swagger sticks at the horse flies. Not a pretty picture. GOP, RIP…
March 26th, 2009 at 4:26 pmWhat’s the use in asking a republican to come up with facts and figures regarding a budget? We’ve seen how the bush-2 tax cuts for the wealthy have “expanded” the U.S. economy. And we’ve seen how the so-called “drug benefit” fulfilled the budgetary estimates provided by bush-2.
Everything the republicans say is a lie intended to cover their own a$$ or protect the ill-gotten wealth of their corporate overlords.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:26 pmIt’s hard to produce a budget plan when your head is up your ass.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:26 pmWhat’s it gonna take to get the entire crew in that studio to stand up and yell liar?
March 26th, 2009 at 4:28 pmShorter Pence: Don’t pressure me, I’m a Republican! You know I’ve got nothing! **whimper**
March 26th, 2009 at 4:30 pmThe Republicans don’t have a NEW plan… that’s why they’re taking so long. They’re pulling out one of their old plans, filing off the serial numbers, putting a fresh coat of paint on it and then unveil it as THE plan for recovery
March 26th, 2009 at 4:32 pmCrap, their going to raise MY taxes by 2 trillion dollars? I better start printing some money to pay for that…
March 26th, 2009 at 4:32 pmBoner is screaming to his fellow republicsnobs, “Where the hell is Jeff Gannon damn it!” Hey boehner why don’t you call Karl Rove, maybe he can find you another bogus reporter to ask you lollipop questions that were approved by you on the previous day.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:34 pmThe Republicans have numbers, okay!…2010, 2012, 2014.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:34 pmWhat’s your goal?” “To do better,” said Boehner. “How much?” “You’ll see next week,” he said.
Where are we going?
Planet Ten!
When?
Real soon!
March 26th, 2009 at 4:35 pmRaise my taxes by 2 trillion? Shit I better start hoarding guns and spam up in the woods somewhere. Does anyone have any spam and guns I can borrow. I won’t be needing the bibles but thanks anyway
March 26th, 2009 at 4:36 pmWhat more can we expect? The GOP has given us all they’ve got: Nothing.
Pathetic.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:38 pmAren’t these the same jokers who railed at the President for not being specific enough in his first days in office? And now that the plans are starting to have an effect they start screeching about how they can do better? See? We have this neat Power Point presentation?
Well, it will take some time to put numbers to it. We’ve only had 8 years to think about this, ya know.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:39 pmSo almost every American now makes more than $250K?
Or does the GOP only consider as truly American those who make more than $250K?
Yes, I know the answer to that second question. But still ..
March 26th, 2009 at 4:40 pmdbadass, some bibles are edible, you know. And they can be used to patch holes in the roof of a shack.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:40 pmHow do you propose a budget that doesn’t have any “numbers”. No one’s budget works like that.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:42 pmIf you reporters keep acting like journalists, you are going to make Boehner cry again. And you know how tears just ruin the looks of a tan.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:42 pmIf his brains were money, he wouldn’t have two Pence to rub together.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:42 pmHi kellykinsel
March 26th, 2009 at 4:43 pmWanna be made to look like a clown?
Whoooo we got a live one.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:44 pmI posted that I had received Publication 15-T and that on average, there is a $17.00 tax cut per week. Publication 15-T is the “New Wage Withholding and Advanced Earned Income Credit Payment Tables (for wages paid through December 2009)” released this month.
Please compare it to Publication 15 “Circular E, Employer’s Tax Guide” which was released in January of this year to see what your savings will be. The savings are to go into effect no later than April 1, 2009.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:44 pmDamn, kellykinsel, you really are a flaming troll! Going for it with gusto – I imagine it will be one day before this latest persona of yours is banned too…
March 26th, 2009 at 4:44 pmkellykinsel Says:
Hey fools, you are the ones in power now so you
are responsible for the deficits
So, after two months, Obama bears full responsibility for what’s happening, eh?
Funny, how even though 9/11 happened a full 7 months after Bush took office, you guys keep trying to blame Clinton.
Can’t have it both ways, sport
March 26th, 2009 at 4:45 pmwow kellyk
what nit are you picking?
nice shoulder-chip – really enhances your credibility.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:45 pmNo numbers? How is that? So, more tax cuts for the rich guys? Just what they need! Now what about the rest of us?
March 26th, 2009 at 4:46 pmkellykinsel, we are so pleased that you love to watch us work. Please stop back on next year’s “take your child to work day”.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:46 pmI wonder if kellykinsel can tell me who is the GOP’s skipper? Maybe it is some guy named Gearge. Who knows even they can’t identify their own captain. What a hopeless adrift crew
March 26th, 2009 at 4:46 pmJebus – that mook is probably even too stupid to be embarrassed.
As an American, I’ll be embarrassed for him.
Oy.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:46 pmClearly.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:46 pmI have never yet seen a successful Republican, they all seem to be failures as human beings.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:48 pmkellykinsel Says:
I love watching you lib morons try to nit pick minor things like the GOP guy not knowing the deficit exactly under the GOP budget.
… or at all. Not even a ballpark figure.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:49 pmdid he mean eight years? Who knows. Apparently the magic eightball
March 26th, 2009 at 4:49 pmYes, ButBut! The Pie Charts! The Bar Graphs with color and 3dishness!@!!
March 26th, 2009 at 4:50 pmkellykinsel
FLAGGED for racist bullshit.
Please join me. :-)
March 26th, 2009 at 4:51 pmAh, now it’s list time… you sure you want to go there?
March 26th, 2009 at 4:51 pm‘two pence’? That sounds european and elitest. Real Americans use pennies!
March 26th, 2009 at 4:51 pmHey kellykinsel
March 26th, 2009 at 4:52 pmI have to get to work but I should be back by about midnight.
Would you mind hanging around so I can grind your silly ass into the ground as per our usual? Thanks. All see ya then…
kelleykinsel, you really need to add another word beginning with the letter k to your moniker if you are going to adequately express your underlying philosophy. Might I suggest kook?
March 26th, 2009 at 4:52 pmDodd? Jesus…
March 26th, 2009 at 4:52 pmThe GOP continues to be SOL – No ideas, No intelligence, No bright stars among them. All a gang of fools playing Congressman/Governor.
And wasn’t Pence supposed to be one of their “bright and shining stars”.
Looks like he’s just another “dull knife” in the drawer of GOP irrelevants.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:52 pm**
read it and weep kelly.
:)
the list isn’t too long.
you just ran out of lies.
::
March 26th, 2009 at 4:52 pmOh, pish-tosh! Fiddle-faddle!!
“Numbers” are for the little people!
/snark
March 26th, 2009 at 4:53 pmFairytinsel is also flagged for obvious trollishness…
March 26th, 2009 at 4:53 pmdon’t care if they’re thugs,
tpafla,
just care that they’re thuggin’ for me.
beat the hell out of your thugs, didn’t they?
poor widdo wingnut. rant your little rant and move along.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:53 pmFlag the sick troll…Miss KK.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:53 pm… nearly 2 trillion dollars on almost every American
The Indiana backwoods idiot thinks “almost every American” makes more than $250K a year. When a major party thinks that poor & middle class people don’t exist, it’s time for that party to be placed in its rightful position at the bottom of the ballot.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:53 pmZooey, I already flagged kkk.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:53 pmtee hee, kk.
buh-bye now.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:55 pmRush and O’Reilly? Who are they?
March 26th, 2009 at 4:56 pmdeebaser Says:
kellykinsel Says:
3. Dowd gets sweetheart loan from country wide
4. dowd looks stupid giving AIG execs bonuses
Dodd? Jesus…
***
LOL,
she really does mean maureen!
***
the trolls
they only
know what the person
in front of them tells them.
;|
March 26th, 2009 at 4:56 pmIs kelly a guy’s man or a gal’s name? Doesn’t matter I suppose, I will still be here when they have moved on to their next incarnation and I will totally f uck with that one too. Must suck to be so weak and incapable of winning even a single round
March 26th, 2009 at 4:56 pmkellykinsel Says:
Look as the lib idiots worry about who the leader of the GOP is. Hey morons, who was the leader of the democrats before Obama? Oh yeah, there was none. You thought it was Hillary but of course the “community organizer” made her look like a fool in the elections.
So keep worrying about the republicans. We love it! You know you can’t win by improving the country. heck, even half the democrat politicians know Obama is screwing this country.
Keep worrying about Rush, Oreilly,…
They will get more popular and expose the failed democrat policies and you will be out in 4 years
***
kellybundy,
there’s an election in 2010 too.
but you don’t want to know about that.
:)
March 26th, 2009 at 4:57 pmkellykinsel,
WWMD?
What would McCain do?
March 26th, 2009 at 4:57 pmIf you’re going to come out with the same old, failed policies with no numbers, WHY BOTHER? How embarrassing for the GOP.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:57 pmvee haff vays…
March 26th, 2009 at 4:57 pmsuccessful republicans
Oxymoron of the day, the month, the year, light years.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:58 pmKelly, please. take an Oxycontin and chill out. We are flagging you because you’re a boring troll idiot, with no ideas or convincing arguments.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:58 pmYes, we hate you personally, and besides, your mother dresses you funny. Now please, go away – the grownups are trying to have a conversation about politics.
kellykinsel Says:
flagg me guys. Get the Liberal nazis to shut anyonw up who doesn’t fall in line with the liberal agenda!
Flag me please!! Prove that you are nothing but facists
***
no,
and i’m not gonna dance with you either.
you’re too fat and you’re too ugly
and you’d only pick your nose and
step on my toes.
***
i won’t dance,
don’t ask me.
:)
March 26th, 2009 at 4:58 pmSo keep worrying about the republicans. We love it! You know you can’t win by improving the country
This is very telling…
Is this an admission that the Republican victory strategy has been to destroy the country?
Or an admission that they’re not interested in ‘improving the country’ only in winning?
Either way kelly… it looks like you guys got nothing.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:59 pmkellykinsel Says:
flagg me guys. Get the Liberal nazis to shut anyonw up who doesn’t fall in line with the liberal agenda!
You liberals with your liberal agenda, can’t you see you’re leaving moronic trolls without their God-given right to spew their lies wherever they want???
/snark
March 26th, 2009 at 4:59 pmIf Republicans are so successful, why does everything they touch turn to shit?
Oh, I see, that’s their success.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:00 pmkellykinsel Says:
Obviously you are jeolous of successful republicans.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
___________
How can one be jealous of something that doesn’t exist?
Obviously you are jealous of unicorns, then!
March 26th, 2009 at 5:00 pmkellykinsel Says:
I know because I have worlked with many libs and despite the fact they think they are intelligenet, they actually are the dumbest people around.
… nah, it’s too easy.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:01 pmOut-of-power loser: Vomit in the toilet bowl, m’kay?
March 26th, 2009 at 5:01 pmWhen you have AP, Norah O’Donnell and even the National Review wondering how serious you are about coming up with a real plan (i.e., NUMBERS), you know your party is in trouble. Buh-bye, GOP.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:02 pmBecause you’re a clown, kellykinsel.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:02 pmFCUK THE GOP.
Irrelevancy is not something to be proud of.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:02 pmWith the input of the trolls on this thread, I have upgraded my patent pending TrollBlogger2009. Just fill in the blanks using the various options from the assigned list and you have an instant trollism. By using this device, you hold me blameless for any and all adverse reactions.
You ____A____ liberals are promoting ____B____ government and
_____C_____ with your ______D_____. If it weren’t for you and your _____A_____ leader, _____E_____, we’d have a great country. Why don’t you ____F_____.
A = unpatriotic, idiotic, whiney, fascist, criminal, corrupt, affirmative-activated
March 26th, 2009 at 5:02 pmB = marxist, fascist, European, nanny, Big, godless
C = a welfare state, shia law, islamofascism, immorality
D = bleeding hearts, relative morality, hate, sinful ways
E = NObama, Clinton, Carter, Kennedy, Barney Fag
F = love it or leave it, die, move to a muslim country, STFU
Yawn. Spare us.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:02 pmSo the GOP sends out dumb and dumber to present their budget. Now that is a hoot, giving real meaning to LOL.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:03 pmkellykinsel Says:
I know because I have worlked with many libs and despite the fact they think they are intelligenet, they actually are the dumbest people around.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
__________
… said the person who can’t spell “intelligent,” “outrageous,” “jealous,” and “Afghanistan.”
March 26th, 2009 at 5:03 pmFlag me please!! Prove that you are nothing but facists
—
March 26th, 2009 at 5:03 pmNo way. I am just gonna play you like I would any small throw back fish. Then after you come back with a new name I am gonna do it all over again. I am a sportsman that way and a sportsman never keeps a “short”
kellykinsel Says:
lib idiots
Hey morons
liberal losers
Yeah kellykinsel, you sure are showing us your superior intellect. You learn those words from Bill ‘the bully’ O’Reilly?
March 26th, 2009 at 5:04 pma “republican road to recovery”? it was the policies of these pieces of crap that crashed the worldwide financial system to begin with…they have no business at this point talking about the economy.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:04 pmYou unpatriotic liberals are promoting fascist government and shia law with your bleeding hearts. If it weren’t for you and your affirmative-activated leader, NObama, we’d have a great country. Why don’t you STFU!
Hey, that’s fun! Lemme try another:
You fascist liberals are promoting godless government and islamofascism with your relative morality. If it weren’t for you and your criminal leader, Barney Fag, we’d have a great country. Why don’t you move to a muslim country!
Hee hee!
March 26th, 2009 at 5:06 pmRepublicans invented the 40-hour worlk week, you unintelligenet wibs!
March 26th, 2009 at 5:07 pmkellykinsel Says:I know because I have worlked with many libs and despite the fact they think they are intelligenet, they actually are the dumbest people around. stephen Fowler proved that
Ya know, kelly… I had to google Stephen Fowler… if your ‘proof’ of my idiocy is some dude who agreed to go on a Reality television show called ‘Wife Swap’ I think that really says a whole lot more about you (who watches a show called ‘Wife Swap’ WTF?) than me…
March 26th, 2009 at 5:09 pmOh no, my fellow progressives! If we flag kkk that proves we are fascists!
How? I have no idea, unless the troll pronounces it as “factists”. Then, of course, the label might fit. Flag on, factists.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:09 pm*giggle*
March 26th, 2009 at 5:09 pmwhere’d my homegirl kelly go? mawmaw call him up for mac n’ cheese?
March 26th, 2009 at 5:09 pm“Pressed By MSNBC, Pence Is Unable To Say What Deficit Would Be Under New GOP Budget”
I thumbed through The Party of No budgetless budget plan that is posted online [Crooks and Liars website provided the link]. It is beyond laughable. It left me with saying: Where’s the beef? There are no charts for a GOP budget nor statistics to back up their plan. Basically, their pamphlet is nothing from GOP attack mode against the Democrats and the Obama Administration. And they certainly don’t have an intelligent budget director like Peter Orszag to crunch realistic numbers to give the American people an insight of their plan. Instead, we get the same Party of No [and the same ones that gave Bush a blank check on any bill that he wanted passed], Boner and Britney Cantor, feeding the usual Program with Empty Promise Plan to rehash their resentment to President Obama’s plan to fix this finanical crisis that he inherited by the former Sith Administration.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:09 pmPressed By MSNBC, Pence Is Unable To Say What Deficit Would Be Under New GOP Budget
Well that would require the GOP to deal with facts.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:09 pmThe GOP does not deal with facts and the real world.
hussein toasterhead, thank you for the demonstration. Once I get this thing perfected we may not need trolls. We can just take turns churning out some trollisms for the first post of each thread.
I must admit that it will not be as enjoyable as real whack-a-troll. But then you know how easily trolls break (I do miss my Daryll sometimes).
March 26th, 2009 at 5:12 pmwhen pressed to give an example of a “small business” slated to recieve tax cuts under the “republican road to recovery”, without missing a beat, mr. pence replied, “exxon-mobil, halliburton, KBR”
March 26th, 2009 at 5:12 pmPresident Bush described his first budget this way: “It’s clearly a budget. It’s got a lot of numbers in it.”
Jesus, he really was an idiot, wasn’t he? I’ve gotten so used to having a brilliant president that I’ve allowed the Bush years to slide into the back of my mind, but need to remind myself that not only were they criminals, he really was a lazy, lying idiot.
PEACE
March 26th, 2009 at 5:12 pmFairyTinsel? Are you already quitting?
March 26th, 2009 at 5:12 pmAnd with a performance like that of Pence and Boehner we see why the Republicans are angling for permanent minority status.
What a pensive boner.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:18 pmI can’t believe I read the whole 19 page “Republican Road to Recovery” and I feel less intelligent than I did before I read it.
No new ideas all I could see was “The Democrats“”The Fed”"The Democrats“”Barney Frank“”End Bailouts”"The Democrats” and “Tax cuts for all!”
March 26th, 2009 at 5:18 pmI don’t believe for one second that kellykinsel is a genuine troll.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:19 pmAnother reporter reminded Boehner that he has “criticized Democrats for throwing together a stimulus quickly and nobody knew what they were voting on. Are you saying that your budget will be unveiled on the same day that the House is expected to vote on it?”
“No, I expect it’ll be out next week,” he said, though the House is expected to vote on the budget next week. “But understand that a budget really is a one-page document. It’s just a bunch of numbers.”
March 26th, 2009 at 5:20 pmFunny those budgets…all those numbers.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:21 pmKelly Kuntsel has been flagged for being another idiotic right wing brain washed (oops scratch the brain part) homophobic, racist, useless piece of toilet paper.
And yes, I’m an intelligent liberal, but only on random Tuesdays.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:23 pm> Obviously you are jealous of successful republicans.
Well…I have to admit, I wouldnt mind a slice of that 12 BILLION dollars of american taxpayer money that went missing in iraq…any of your sucessful republican friends know where that might have gone?
March 26th, 2009 at 5:28 pmPLC, I think Troll Central has pre-empted you. I think they are working on version 2.7 which includes random handle regeneration.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:28 pm7, 32, 1.5 trillion, a couple of bajillion.
There you go Boner, numbers for your one page budget.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:30 pm“who watches a show called ‘Wife Swap’ WTF?”
I kinda did a coupla times…
*slinks away*
March 26th, 2009 at 5:30 pm>Of course, they know if they pass
> the outragoues budget of Obama
Wouldnt you mind comparing the cost of Obama’s “outrageous” budget to the cost of the war your hero bush started to get rid of WMD’s that didnt exist?
March 26th, 2009 at 5:31 pmSlightly off topic…long story, short…RE: Trolls!
A number of the “talking point” rethug, conservative christian-type bloggers, call-in’s artist are actually broiler room workers.
I heard an email on air, written to Thom Hartman (Air America) from a regular conservative call-in guy to the show.
He “confessed” his working at a professional broiler room “entity” of the GOP whereas daily “talking points” were handed out and the workers started their posting and call-in’s. The guy said he was paid per post/call. He was taught how to keep people going, how to keep the radio personality going and make sure the topic was swayed to his talking points. The only reason he informed Tom, was because he was leaving the broiler room for another job (he liked Tom).
With that said, keep in mind that entertaining “trolls” (or playing with their heads) is only helping them earn money so they can attend Creationist College and breed more Neanderthal off-spring. WE have the power to “bleed THEIR beast” by ignoring them like the crazy person who lives at the end of the block, reporting their post, thereby, “bleeding the beast” by denying trolls of the emotional dirt they throw in everyone’s face.
Post around them and report them so they can’t earn a living.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:33 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
I don’t believe for one second that kellykinsel is a genuine troll.
But I’ve got this Certificate of Authenticity right here… it says ‘Independent’ and it’s all Gold foil and cool… wait a minute… that doesn’t say ‘Independent’ it says ‘Imperial’ and someone seems to have scratched out margarine underneath that…
Huh, you may be right ralph…
March 26th, 2009 at 5:33 pmHoodathunk, you might be right. I have also noticed major flaws in my TrollBlogger2009 – the lack of grammatical and spelling errors as well as a lack of random topic generation. I may have to abandon the project as it is hard on me to try to think like a troll. I have noticed some signs of deterioration in my own posts, starting with “stupid fingers syndrome”.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:36 pm>Get the Liberal nazis to shut
> anyonw up who doesn’t fall
> in line with the liberal agenda!
I’m still waiting for one of the trolls to tell me about ANY prominent right wing blog that doesnt ban and delete any posters expressing left wing sentiments, or even dissent from the “party line”
March 26th, 2009 at 5:37 pmHe’s on his broiler-room lunch break.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:40 pmNotice that the liberals don’t waste their money trying to convince, derail or bother the conservative blogs…
March 26th, 2009 at 5:40 pmPLC, it takes a hardy soul to be able to generate troll software. Most of the regulars here will probably agree that it is sort of fun to occasionally mimic them but it causes migraines if kept up for more than a post or two.
I believe Troll Central uses the 10,000 monkeys to type the bible method of programming.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:41 pmExcept this “budget” is short on one key detail: numbers. The AP calls it “a glossy pamphlet short on detail and long on campaign-style talking points.”
Wow, if the AP said that about the Republicans, it must be really bad.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:41 pmLet’s see if i have this right – now the GOP doesn’t do plans anymore. They have shed members and distilled themselves down until the last remaining Republicans are pure pontificators, devoid of original thought; devoid of experience or skill in governance. Yet they still keep on going and going. Maybe they will eventually slip out of politics altogether, and into the tabloids where they belong.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:41 pmAh, just as I suspected. They exchange their brains at the door for the copy of the talking points and a donut.
They always have the most stupid handles too.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:42 pmSKdeA Says:
Notice that the liberals don’t waste their money trying to convince, derail or bother the conservative blogs…
The mere idea gives me a massive headache. Talking with dinosaurs would be more enlightening.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:44 pmplus, here’s the part i find hilarious matt,
March 26th, 2009 at 5:45 pmthe “honor” of accessing certain reichwing blogs actually cost money to participate in the like-minded circle jerks they contain.
More “trust us” budgets from Republicans. Well, we tried that for 8 years and they destroyed the economy.
But the upper 5% really made off like bandits.
hmmmmm……
March 26th, 2009 at 5:46 pmkkk,
Liberal Nazis?
Please educate yourself. Sheesh…
March 26th, 2009 at 5:46 pm>Post around them and report
>them so they can’t earn a living
Although what you’re claiming about these guys getting padi to post sounds ludicrous, these people are such self parodys, I actually tend to beleive it could be true. However, I look at it this way…anyone willing to take the “mental janitor” job of being a troll probably isnt spending his hard earned 10 cents a post on something productive..he’s probably spending it on blow up dolls, online porn, some sort of homoerotic action figures, or oreos to stuff thir face with while playing some violent video game all day. If what you say is true, these people are literally the intellectual equivalent of filthy, mentally ill homeless people pushing around a grocery cart with a broken wheel, picking up empty beer cans of thought.. personally, im happy to help drain the people who are paying for this drek of thier resources, cuz frankly, theres alot more dangerous and harmful things they could be doing with that money than giving it to these blizzards of congnitive dissonance that we know as trolls.. just my 10 cents ;)
March 26th, 2009 at 5:48 pmAnd Republicans would fully fund our ongoing commitments overseas
This can’t mean that the 1% crowd would personally dig into the cash they raped from the government? Xe probably has some mercenaries available.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:49 pmPresident Obama challenged the Press to discover whether GOP had an ACTUAL Alternative to his Budget..
the Press took up his challenge….and the answer, so far, is NO…the GOP doesn’t .
Nice Work…Barack
And isn’t it a Boiler room???
March 26th, 2009 at 5:49 pmBoiled or broiled, trolls would still live in a world of bad taste.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:50 pmkellykinsel Says:
Obama promises to end war but sends 170,000 more to war
I think you mean 17,000 not 170,000. But considering how hysterical you are, it’s not surprising that you make typos. What kind of drugs are you on? They’re making you weird.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:50 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
kellykinsel, are you capable of a civil and healthy debate or are you just here to flame bait and hurl insults?
I assume that is a rhetorical question.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:54 pmCJ, I would not be at all surprised to discover someone is running the equivalent of Troll Central and paying people to harass liberal/progressive blog sites. They have the coin and there are people out there who just may be desperate enough to play the game.
I would suspect a high turnover.
March 26th, 2009 at 5:54 pmTroll Central must reek of urine…
March 26th, 2009 at 5:58 pmHelp Wanted: Trolls to post outrageous and inane things, coherency not required. 5 cents per post with a dime bonus for lasting more than 10 posts. Literacy not a requirement but marginal typing skills needed. Previous history of lunacy a plus.
March 26th, 2009 at 6:07 pmTax cuts for the rich. How refreshing.
Clowns.
March 26th, 2009 at 6:11 pmThe Trolls are failing to share their ideas, and failing to learn from others ideas, and failing to resolve issues in exactly the same way the Republicans are failing at politics. I submit that trolls and republicans are one and the same.
March 26th, 2009 at 6:16 pmPatrioticLiberalChristian, you sir are my hero for #90
March 26th, 2009 at 6:16 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
Conservative blogs delete and ban any opposition, even when it
is completely civil and polite.
They even state that they always delete anything that they disagree with.
/Little Green Bastards, I’m looking at you.
March 26th, 2009 at 6:17 pmI’m trying to remember why I started feeling better about our country and the prospects for our economy. Any good news out there?
March 26th, 2009 at 6:31 pmThank you, deebaser.
I actually hope the RNC or some other wingnut group is paying people to troll. If so, they are wasting money that could go to other, perhaps more effective means of “catapulting their propoganda”.
March 26th, 2009 at 6:34 pmkelly-dim-wit said:
When are we gonna start culling the herd by getting the guillotines out and ridding the political landscape of their worthless screeching???
Back when U.S. Citizens were trying to cope with the reality of the demolished World Trade Center, these scumbags were busy blaming everything on President Clinton, because the bush-2 administration had “only” been office for 9 months. 9 months — that’s 20% of a 4-year term in office.
Now, less than 3 months into President Obama’s first term in office, these demented idiots are complaining that he is incompetent because he has not reversed the economic woes their political party of choice created over a 30 year history in which they waged open warfare aginst the American middle class.
There is another word for this psychological syndrome: reprobate — someone who cannot recognize their mistakes and error-filled beliefs.
March 26th, 2009 at 6:34 pmCan anyone tell me what the deficit/budget numbers were a year ago?
March 26th, 2009 at 6:53 pmFollowing the 12 year reign Regan/Bush-1 the national debt was just about USD $5 trillion. When bush-2 left office, that figure was up to USD $10 trillion.
March 26th, 2009 at 6:58 pmi’m watching Keith Olbermann right now and the clip with Boehner was just too good! My sides hurt from laughing at the fraudulent rethuglican party trying to pawn off a fake budget – AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHA!
March 26th, 2009 at 8:08 pmMapquest “Republican Road to Recovery”
Down to the corner. Turn HARD RIGHT.
Cross “The Bridge to Nowhere”.
Park. Whine.
March 26th, 2009 at 8:09 pmThe GOP’s “alternative” budget blueprint is little more than a plan stating “bigger tax breaks for rich folks” written on a cocktail napkin.
March 26th, 2009 at 9:54 pmIf Obama’s budget is going to raise the taxes of every American by 2 trillion dollars, I may have to declare bankruptcy. Still that would infuse 640 sextillion dollars into Federal coffers. That would erase the national debt forever (or at least until the next Gooper administration)!
March 26th, 2009 at 9:57 pmAs a former English teacher, I can tell you that this “budget plan” is poorly written. Look at this example, from page 5:
“And even community organizers, such as
ACORN, performing “neighborhood stabilization.”
Not only is it a fragment, otherwise known as an incomplete sentence, but it also begins with “And”, which is unacceptable in a formal document. Furthermore, the tone is decidedly childish. This would have warranted a rewrite in my class.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:21 pmUnderstand, every time the government makes a new law, regulation and/or tells you what you can and can’t do, you give up a little more of your liberty. It is the snowball affect. But, I have come to realize that U.S. citizens say they have and want freedom, but really they don’t. They want to give the federal government power to handle all problems, thereby giving up more and more liberty. It is a sad situation. Our founding fathers would be embarrassed.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:40 pmRobert M. – Thanks for taking kelly-dim-wit to the wood shed.
March 26th, 2009 at 10:59 pmkwsventures Says:
Our founding fathers would be embarrassed.
___________
No doubt they would have been thoroughly disgusted w/ BotchCo and torture, endless war, wiretapping, DoJ-gate… you prolly got a point… someplace…
Keep looking. You’ll find it.
March 27th, 2009 at 12:25 amWAYNEBRO Says:
Look at the DOW and the Nasdaq. For almost 2 weeks straight now they’ve been up. And many days WAY up. Today the DOW’s up over a full 2 percent, and the Nas is up almost 4!
And its been like that consistently for weeks. Ever since a few days after the President’s State of the Union.
Clearly the President’s programs ARE working. He said it would be a slow steady process and that’s exactly what we’re seeing. Before the SOTU the DOW was down in the 6’s. Now its ready to break 8. That doesn’t happen in a recessed market. It happens during the recovery of a recessed market, but not in one.
So I’m not sure why no ones talking about it (perhaps afraid of jinxing it, lol) but the fact is we’ve seen a strong and steady resurgence of the markets, and we’ve seen solid economic indicators in housing and elsewhere showing us that the President’s plan of STIMULUS, IS working.
Its time for the republicans to either get behind the President on this or get the hell out of the way.”
look guy you cant friggin have it both ways, if Rush is wrong that it was Obama’s fault when the market tanked then you “waynebro” cant declare friggin “mission acomplished” when the guy gets lucky and theres a friggin little rally.
This i’m saying in that I voted for the friggin guy and I would sort of like him to succede but we need to be careful not to blindly follow that guy like lemmings off a clif, like we did for Pesident Bush pushing us into Iraq.
I say we need to listen to what the Republicans are saying not brow beat them to kneel and show fealty to this president just like the democrats did to President Bush when he friggin led the charge to invade Iraq. This i’m saying in that this guy is blowing the budget with his wasteful spending and clinging to the Bush Doctrine of rendition, not to mention the party of Reagan was the idea party that pulled us out of the last nasty ass recession caused by Carter.
Theres enough blame to go around for both party’s, I mean take a gander at Barney friggin Frank and his partisan stooges who caused this mortgage meltdown by forcing these companies to lend to deadbeats, we need to act bipartisany like Obama wants and listen to the Republicans pushing for regulation and oversite of these damn crooks.
March 27th, 2009 at 12:26 amAs usual I come late to the party…
When I saw Boehner holding up their “budget” I was immediately reminded of the commercial with Clara Peller & Co: “It certainly is a big bun.” “It’s a big fluffy bun.” — “Where’s the beef?”.
Sans Clara Peller it’s too bad Helen Thomas wasn’t there to reprise the role with the same question..
[Thanks to Wikipedia for helping refresh my memory.]
March 27th, 2009 at 9:22 amHe can’t say becouse he doesn’t have that many fingers and toes.
March 27th, 2009 at 8:54 pm