You first argument used NO common sense it was a baseless assertion and an attack on unions. You have decided to throw in with kissing ass. Fine. I prefer my union job which pays ME six figures and five weeks vacation a year and good benifits one of which is I have NEVER had to kiss anyones ass. ALL wealth created in an economy is done by the WORKERS. Giving THEM some power to get a fair share of the product of their labor seems to just rub the wrong way those congenitally obsessed with kissing the ass of power. Keep your nose brown.

Another punk whiner who loves to kiss rich butt and will do anything to make the rich richer and take money from the working class. What a putz

So, according to gimme’s logic, because unions demand healthcare for their members, the cost of building a car would decrease if the union was busted and no healthcare was provided.

See, it not the cost of health care that’s a problem, it’s the big evil unions.

Where’d gimme go anyway?

No one in Japan is allowed to go without health insurance. You are required to have it in one form or another, even if you are a foreign national living there.

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alejandro, rich,

do you think they know something we don’t?

:|

btw i would have invited gg to comment

but he appears to have left the discussion.

again.

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No one in Japan is allowed to go without health insurance. You are required to have it in one form or another, even if you are a foreign national living there.

Some people just can’t make the connection.

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great post rich,

but i’m sorry to say that

it’s probably wasted on gg.

lexicologist have described his kind

of mind as a “rubik’s cube without

color”. that is no matter how he

twists and turns it the results are

always the same.

:(

In Japan, services are provided either through regional/national public hospitals or through private hospitals/clinics, and patients have universal access to any facility, though hospitals tend to charge higher for those without a referral. However space can be an issue in some regions. More than 14,000 emergency patients were rejected at least three times by Japanese hospitals before getting treatment in 2007, according to the latest government survey. In the worst case, a woman in her 70s with a breathing problem was rejected 49 times in Tokyo.[4] Public health insurance covers most citizens/residents and pays 70% or more cost for each care and each prescribed drug. Patients are responsible for the remainder (upper limits apply). The monthly insurance premium is 0-50,000 JPY per household (scaled to annual income).

I’m pretty sure in Japan if you have no insurance they don’t let you sit in an emergency room till you die.

Then come over and kick you to see if your still breathing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Japan

There is employer backed health insurance mixed with a national health insurance.

So auto companies might just have something in the way of insurance benefits with its workers, but I haven’t found info on that yet.

You remind me of someone I know who blames unions for everything. All the trouble in the world, and lionizes Reagan. I’ve tried to explain to him how Reagan was a union buster, but that was something he was proud of. He didn’t care because when Reagan was governor of CA he put money in the prison system which allowed him to be hired as a prison guard.

Good thing too, he was injured on the job and because he belonged to the union he was pretty well taken care of.

Some people just can’t make the connection.

I guess it’s because they don’t have a $1 trillion a year military to support.

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gg, look to alejandro.

logical thinking yields

logical results.

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alejandro is making himself

“more valuable”.

why can’t you?

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wtf?

:)

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2206.html

I guess it’s because they don’t have a $1 trillion a year military to support.

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i have not personally attacked you

since i don’t know you personally.

i have merely pointed out the flaws

in your arguments. you can either learn

from them or not. the choice is yours.

following logic is not a moral imperative

but a physical one. however i am not your

doctor so i cannot force you to take your

medicine (nor would i force you to take it even

if i were, but that is another matter). the point is

this: you claimed you would make yourself “more

valuable” but, as of yet and empirically judging by

what you have posted here, you have not take the

slightest movement in that direction.

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why?

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the logic is, unions have very little if anything to do with this problem. Your all for the break up of the UAW when they’ve given back to the Big 3 virtually everytime their contracts been renewed for the past dozen years or so.

How do you feel about the wall street, bank, insurance, mortgage bailout? I’d bet it’s not quite the same.

As for any benefits you get at your job, no matter what it is, any at all, any, any any. You have them thanks to a union.

Not only that, but in getting you those benefits many people have died in the past. I’d think you’d be more grateful.