Hersh: Cheney ‘Left A Stay Behind’ In Obama’s Government, Can ‘Still Control Policy Up To A Point’
Hersh: Cheney ‘Left A Stay Behind’ In Obama’s Government, Can ‘Still Control Policy Up To A Point’
In an interview on NPR’s Fresh Air yesterday, host Terry Gross asked investigative journalist Seymour Hersh if, as he continues to investigate the Bush administration, “more people” were “coming forward” to talk to him now that “the president and vice president are no longer in power.” Hersh replied that though “a lot of people that had told me in the last year of Bush, ‘call me next, next February,’ not many people had talked to him. He implied that they were still scared of Cheney.
“Are you saying that you think Vice President Cheney is still having a chilling effect on people who might otherwise be coming forward,” asked Gross. “I’ll make it worse,” answered Hersh, adding that he believes Cheney “put people back” in government to “stay behind” in order to “tell him what’s going on” and perhaps even “do sabotage”:
HERSH: I’ll make it worse. I think he’s put people left. He’s put people back. They call it a stay behind. It’s sort of an intelligence term of art. When you leave a country and, you know, you’ve driven out the, you know, you’ve lost the war. You leave people behind. It’s a stay behind that you can continue to contacts with, to do sabotage, whatever you want to do. Cheney’s left a stay behind. He’s got people in a lot of agencies that still tell him what’s going on. Particularly in defense, obviously. Also in the NSA, there’s still people that talk to him. He still knows what’s going on. Can he still control policy up to a point? Probably up to a point, a minor point. But he’s still there. He’s still a presence.
Listen here:
The idea that Cheney would seed the government with trusted contacts is not surprising. As Hersh noted in his talk with Gross, Cheney has “been around forever” and “understands bureaucracy much better” than almost anyone in government. In 2006, Robert Dreyfuss reported for The American Prospect that when Cheney helped staff the Bush administration in 2001, he put together a “corps of hard-line acolytes” that served “as his eyes and ears” in the federal bureaucracy. Former officials called them “Dick Cheney’s spies.”
Additionally, before leaving office, the Bush administration aggressively placed political appointees into permanent civil service positions as part of a process known as “burrowing.” Some of the burrowed former political appointees have close ties to Cheney, such as Jeffrey T. Salmon, who was a speechwriter for Cheney when he served as defense secretary. In July, he was named deputy director for resource management in the Energy Department’s Office of Science
Transcript:
GROSS: You investigated the Bush administration throughout the Bush administration. Always looking for ways that they may, might have been going beyond executive authority in taking on new powers. And now that the Bush administration is over, you’re still investigating what they did and where they might have violated the law. Is investigating that any different for you as a journalist post-Bush administration than it was during the Bush administration? Are more people coming forward now, now that the president and vice president are no longer in power?HERSH: You know, that’s a great question because I did think, I had a lot of people that had told me in the last year of Bush, “call me next, next February.” And, so far, even people who are out are still cherry because, you know, not so much Bush, but Cheney really is…he’s really smart. In the article this week, in the New Yorker, that’s coming out this week, I mention that at one point last fall, Mr. Miliband, the young foreign secretary of Britain, unilaterally, without telling the White House made a trip to Syria to see the president, Assad, and his intelligence chief, his MI6 chief went before him. And Bush-Cheney didn’t know about it until actually was, they were actually there. And Cheney at a meeting — and I do have, I can tell you I do have access and have had and I’ve been careful of how I use it, to a lot of stuff from meetings in the White House — and at a meeting he railed on about perfidious Albion, you know, the old Shakespeare term for England and that was used during the Revolutionary war as a pejorative term for England. Perfidious Albion he said. He is, Cheney is really underestimated. It’s easy to make a caricature of him. He’s very very bright. And he’s also in person, a much more open-minded in the sense, I’m talking about not politically. You could go and the most despaired people in the world go and have social evenings with him and his wife and talking about current, as long as you don’t get into politics, movies and stuff like that. It’s, he’s easy to make a caricature, but he’s much more formidable than people think. Got a rap clap memory. Understands bureaucracy much better, he’s been around forever, has had every job.
GROSS: Are you saying that you think Vice President Cheney is still having a chilling effect on people who might otherwise be coming forward and revealing things to you about what happened in the Bush administration?
HERSH: I’ll make it worse. I think he’s put people left. He’s put people back. They call it a stay behind. It’s sort of an intelligence term of art. When you leave a country and, you know, you’ve driven out the, you know, you’ve lost the war. You leave people behind. It’s a stay behind that you can continue to contacts with, to do sabotage, whatever you want to do. Cheney’s left a stay behind. He’s got people in a lot of agencies that still tell him what’s going on. Particularly in defense, obviously. Also in the NSA, there’s still people that talk to him. He still knows what’s going on. Can he still control policy up to a point? Probably up to a point, a minor point. But he’s still there. He’s still a presence. And again, because of the problems this administration’s having filling jobs, a lot of people who served in the Bush Cheney government, particularly even in the White House people on most sophisticated staffs are still there. You simply can’t get rid of everybody, you may not even want to. Some are professional people. But Cheney is, I would never call it admiration, but, you know, formidable, yeah, this guy. This guy is the real McCoy.
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And this is a bombshell only for people sucking down MSM…If I remember correctly the very same idea has been posited several times on this very site.
Rocket science…I tell ya.
March 31st, 2009 at 4:46 pmThe only way we can ever be sure Darth Penquin is gone from government is when his black cinder of a heart finally stops pumping and they don’t put in a new one from someone who has died “accidentally”.
March 31st, 2009 at 4:46 pmCan’t the Obama administration just remove privileged access and other access to confidential information to the burrowed Bush/Cheney spies? They should know who they are, right?
March 31st, 2009 at 4:47 pmThese stay behinds must be the ones responsible for the Geithner Plan. How else to explain hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars going to the very same people who destroyed their companies and the economy and the concurrent betrayal of the working class?
March 31st, 2009 at 4:48 pmOust the Cheneymoles!!!
Arrest Dick!!!
March 31st, 2009 at 4:49 pmScarabaeoidea vinylspearcea Says:
The only way we can ever be sure Darth Penquin is gone from government is when his black cinder of a heart finally stops pumping and they don’t put in a new one from someone who has died “accidentally”.
March 31st, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Cheney is certainly proof that “only the good, die young”
March 31st, 2009 at 4:53 pmThese permanently “burrowed” stooges need to be removed.
March 31st, 2009 at 4:55 pmJustice Department, do your duty. Find a way.
Sabotage during a time of war from within the DOD, huh? Smoke these phuckers out and charge them with treason.
March 31st, 2009 at 4:56 pmThe Cheney virus.
March 31st, 2009 at 4:56 pmShooting America in the face beyond his time.
I do not wish people dead. It’s not my style, and it never has been. When there are dangerous people in positions of power, my wish has always been for them to be removed from power, or whatever non-lethal means it takes to squelch their influence.
Have we exhausted all non-lethal means to squelch the influence of Cheney? Has he been held accountable for his actions as veep? Can he be?
And when Cheney expires (as we all do eventually), does the monster spy network expire along with the head? Or does another head take its place, like the legendary hydra?
March 31st, 2009 at 4:58 pmDick the Tick, burrowed under the governments skin and near impossible to get it all the way out.
And why is Dick not in prison for his WAR CRIMES?
Oh, he’s a repulican, forgot….nevermind.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:01 pmA stay behind = remain a pain in the ass.
Won’t they stick out and be easy to spot? They’ll be the ones advocating things that have already been proven faulty.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:03 pmmolly – these kinds of spooks always have a succession plan, i’m afraid.
only diligent mockery and marginalization will keep them at bay.
it’s important to not how Cheney used the back-door, starting back in his nixon days, to get his soft, slippery hands on the ring of power. others will no doubt try the same strategy.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:05 pmI’m pretty sure Tyler Duvall burrowed in the Transportation Department, but Obama appointed Ray LaHood, a Republican as Transportation Secretary. There was no need to burrow.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:08 pmRecall Jeb Bush, once the looming head of the shadow government. Then Lehman Private Equity cratered and numerous corporate boards called. At least Jeb’s still in the big money boy shadows.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:10 pmOkay,seriously, this is getting ridiculous! When will this man go away!
March 31st, 2009 at 5:15 pmWhat do people fear about cheney? Yes, he could apparently make people dissappear and he did support torture and, by extention, he could have you killed. The implication is that it’s a fear of political retribution, but do people actually fear for their lives and/or harm to themselves or loves ones? Why are people submissive to such an ass?
March 31st, 2009 at 5:17 pmThese Republicans are the most untrustworthy bunch. The president’s appointments are being pigenholed in Congress while Bush/Cheney’s stooges can play havoc as fill-ins.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:19 pmI suggest the President make his appointments top priority before it is too late to undue any damage.
He found a country he could deceive easily. we Americans. like Germany in the 30’s Americans were easily deceived for the Iraq war and our industrial military complex staying intact even in times of peace.
Ike warned us but no one listened now we pay the price. We Americans have slowly become imperialistic and we don’t have a clue we are. We actually think we are the good guys in the world and peace lovers.
we are a republic and in a republic we deserve our leaders. few Americans understand this and want to blame every one but themselves. it is look into the mirror time in America.
wont happen anytime soon the ego knows better than to look into a mirror.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:20 pmThis is off topic but feel the genuine need to post as this is extremely important:
Some vital questions that require serious attention…
Why isn’t CNN/FOX/etc making sure every American knows of the following?
Whose interest is being protected and why?
BBC NEWS VIDEO: The Air Powered Car
REUTERS NEWS VIDEO: The Water Powered Car
continued…
March 31st, 2009 at 5:24 pm…continued
For answers see here:
The 9/11 Truth Movement, Free Energy Suppression and the Global Elite’s Agenda
Another vital question…
Why do you learn of Air/Water Powered Cars in a ‘comment field’ instead of a HEADLINED ARTICLE?
Whose interest is being protected and why?
For answers see here:
9/11: Distinguishing The Propaganda From The Smoking Guns
March 31st, 2009 at 5:24 pmI too would be afraid of Cheney….
Hersh: ‘Executive assassination ring’ reported directly to Cheney
March 31st, 2009 at 5:27 pmAnd who’s to say that Cheney still doesn’t have control over assassination squads. That fear would be enough to keep possible whistle blowers quiet. I think we are going to be suffering from the affects of the Cheney presidency for years to come.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:32 pmAs stated from the moment the election was official: most of the next four years will be needed to ferret out the operatives, and incompetents, that Bushco left in play. Personally, I would start with everyone Monica Goodling approved and then fire everyone who claims Regent, or any other religious “school”, as their Elbow Matter.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:40 pmI hope Hersh is being careful. Between the revelations of Cheney’s “stay behind” strategy and his assassination ring, I expect mass discrediting of Hersh (making O’Reilly’s stalk-and-ambush move against Amanda look like a tea party). And if that doesn’t work, there are probably more profound and horrifying ways to ensure Hersh gets neutralized and other journalists get the message.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:43 pmCheney is a real Richard
March 31st, 2009 at 5:49 pmCan’t be sure if it’s true or not, but regardless this reads like the makings of a great movie. Is Harrison Ford available?
March 31st, 2009 at 6:01 pmBob Says:
Think in terms of a mole, a spy – not there to make waves.
Probably, they have a lot of fears in their world – brown people, Muslims, the devil, the truth, etc.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:11 pmI have considered starting an online “dead pool” for former Bushco minions. Who will be the first to suffer a fatal “accident” or a “cerebral hemorrhage”?
Scott McClellen was my initial choice. He actually had the balls to grow a conscience, though a small one, while they were still in power. Now that he’s outlived the Bush Administration? I’m putting my money behind idiots like Feith and Gonzo. I know I wouldn’t sleep well if those morons had anything on me.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:15 pmLooks like Cheney created a ‘Stay Behind’ presidency, after two terms acting as a shadow President.
This man’s love for power seems to have no ending..same love he has for oil.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:17 pmDick Cheney is an enemy of the United States of America and is proud to sew the seeds of insurrection as well as destroy our Constitution. Haven’t we had enough of this coward and traitor yet? Why does the media still embrace him and give him freedom to sully this great country. Sadly the damage he’s done will live long after him thanks to him and his fanboys. The doctors success in keeping this sick bastard alive these last eight years is one of the significant medical failures of the Bush administration.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:23 pmMaybe he just wants to keep up with the low-down on his crooked business deals.
link
March 31st, 2009 at 6:24 pmKlatuu Says: nothing.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:39 pmwell Mr. Klaat, I don’t know much about that stuff, but I do know that
1) The D-J just had its best month since 2002, and
1.5) 3 times as many Americans feel the country is on the right track than did before the elections were held, and
2) That doesn’t say much for the R’s, and most Americans agree, and
3) Dick is a R. R = Dick
March 31st, 2009 at 6:43 pmI listened to the entire interview, twice. It may sound far fetched, but Hersh has a track record that I would not bet against. Cheney seems to be inviting indictment and prosecution. He is freely giving evidence daily. I suspect he is confident of a win at SCOTUS level that sets his perfidy in stone. I suspect there are people at Justice right now that are afraid of just that.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:45 pmWho are these nuts who think that Obama is the messiah?
March 31st, 2009 at 6:48 pmO’Reilly needs to ambush this vile traitor….actually a real journalist asking real questions would be most excellent.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:52 pmwiley – far as I can tell, only the strawmen that populate the fever dreams of tortured righty minds.
but I’m keeping an eye out….
March 31st, 2009 at 6:53 pmWho said Cheney is “running the government”?
March 31st, 2009 at 6:57 pmMr. Klaat sees only a city of strawmen on a hill….
…the only thing they have in common with us?
….they are laughing at Mr. Klaat, too.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:59 pmAs I recall, government service regulations don’t permit a person to be fired for their political views or affiliations, but they can be reassigned (admittedly at the same pay level) to other jobs. Just give them horrible jobs with no influence. Turn them into drones, far away from their current positions so they can’t maintain their network. Strip them of their government-paid electronica and communications systems and keep them in the dark. We know who they are. Neuter them.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:04 pmOnce Cheney meets his demise, as his heart condition will not keep him alive forever, it should be interesting who comes clean and with what info.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:07 pmnot too worried about it Proud…
…we’ve got the country back on the right track now, and everybody knows it…
bunker up, sport – it’s gonna be a long time….
March 31st, 2009 at 7:22 pmI almost have to side with the trolls on this one. I’m more concerned with the flat-earthers who can still damage our country, our civilization, and our planet, than stooges looking to keep Dick out of court.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:31 pmthat’s an important “almost” Pete – I don’t think anyone’s too worried about “minions of Dick”, but it would be naive to think he’s not trying to maintain some of the influence he backstabbed his way into over the last 40 years….
besides, he’s still got to look after the value of his halliburton stock options.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:34 pmArrest Cheney and watch this whole thing stop.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:35 pmWell, really now, the automatic phone tapping machinery has not been disabled yet by the Obama administration has it? It should be child play (and actually a true National Security issue) to track contacts between Cheney and any currently serving members of the Administration. A man who would out a CIA agent should be totally restricted from contact with anyone having classified national security information.
Perhaps Obama is just waiting until he has enough treason on tape to put Cheney in jail.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:36 pmProud Says:
I think you libs need to make yourselves some new tinfoil hats since the vast right wing conspiracy machine still has all of you shaking in your boots. Be careful, be very careful, we have a vast network of ex haliburton and blackwater employees burrowed into every facet of Gov’t. Where will we strike next, only the shadow knows.
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i think you need to talk to this guy.
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but wait a minute,
“I’m not a conspiracy guy.”
– Bill O’Reilly, The O’Reilly Factor, March 15, 2009
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wtf?
i guess that’s what happens
when billy take off his tin foil hat.
:)
March 31st, 2009 at 7:40 pmtombaker Says:
that’s an important “almost” Pete
That’s why I put it there.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:48 pmHersh on Olbermann tonight.
March 31st, 2009 at 8:03 pmProud,
maybe shaking in my boots a bit when thinking of Cheney’s assassination squad along with the 6 found dead at Minot AFB.
Cheney has been out there warning US of another attack.
March 31st, 2009 at 8:13 pmCheney claims to be a Christian (Methodist actually).
I wonder what Jesus would think of scary Dick?
March 31st, 2009 at 8:13 pmKlatuu Says:
katydid Says:
Hersh on Olbermann tonight.
Excellent! I just hope Keith doesn’t put his conspiracy hat on too tight, he has already suffered enough of a head injury.
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um, when you try to be funny…
you’re not.
;|
March 31st, 2009 at 8:21 pm> we have a vast network of ex haliburton
> and blackwater employees burrowed into
> every facet of Gov’t.
right, no your people would never do that..only italian mobsters and muslim extremists engage in criminal conspiracies, right? neocons are too morallly upstanding to abuse their power, right?
March 31st, 2009 at 8:21 pm“…even people who are out are still cherry…”
Maybe they are, in some strange way, but I’ll bet Sy hersh really said, “chary”, or even “wary”.
“…the most despaired people in the world go and have social evenings with him and his wife…”
Um, “disparate”, perhaps?
Did Cheney also do something to sabotage your editorial staff?
March 31st, 2009 at 8:25 pm“chary” not “cherry”
March 31st, 2009 at 8:26 pmKlatuu Says:
You really are an ignorant and worthless troll. By the way you mean ANOTHER pulitzer prize Hersh IS a pulitzer prize winner you moronic putz
March 31st, 2009 at 8:29 pmKlatuu Says:
You are stupid. You are a punk. You are a troll. Hersh IS a respected journalist and YOU are a moron
March 31st, 2009 at 8:30 pmProud Says:
I think YOU are stupid and brainwashed and we would have to be idiots to take your ignorant spewage seriously.
March 31st, 2009 at 8:32 pmKlatuu Says:
I just wish you werent so astonishingly stupid and at least once in a while was more than your usual toxic stupidity
March 31st, 2009 at 8:32 pmhad enough Says:
[...]
Cheney has been out there warning US of another attack.
no doubt…
Taleban: we will launch attack on America that will amaze world
Times Online – ?3 hours ago?
Baitullah Mehsud, the leader of the Pakistani Taleban, threatened yesterday to launch an attack on Washington that would “amaze everyone in the world” as he claimed responsibility for the raid on a police academy in Lahore and boasted of a new regional …
Taliban Leader’s Washington Threat Is Credible, Analysts Say FOXNews
Pakistani Taliban Claims Responsibility in Lahore Police Attack Voice of America
The Associated Press – Los Angeles Times – Daily Times – Reuters
all 3,169 news articles »
http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&ncl=1322822861&topic=w
not just warning, no doubt…
March 31st, 2009 at 8:42 pmBest thing to do- investigate and find out who they are and bug them. Find out what they are up to.
March 31st, 2009 at 8:42 pmKeep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
hersh interview was positive, reassuring… … somewhat…
btw…
March 31st, 2009 at 8:44 pmKlatuu Says:
Eugene atrax robustus Debs Says:
Klatuu Says:
Hersh IS a pulitzer prize winner
So is Charles Krauthammer so I’m sure that’s a meaningless award to your type.
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klituu,
krauthammer won it for commentary,
not for news reporting.
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but i’m sure you didn’t mean
to leave that fact out.
:)
hersh won for international reporting.
:)
i included relevant links
so you can take a moment
and try to learn about it.
:)
:)
March 31st, 2009 at 8:54 pmKlatuu Says:
joe cantwell Says:
Klatuu Says:
katydid Says:
Hersh on Olbermann tonight.
Excellent! I just hope Keith doesn’t put his conspiracy hat on too tight, he has already suffered enough of a head injury.
um, when you try to be funny…
Was I making fun of Keiths head injury? I don’t think so, I just pointed out that he has suffered enough.
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so have you.
please take your lithium.
feel better?
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March 31st, 2009 at 8:55 pm>Was I making fun of Keiths head injury?
More adhominem absurdity from the mental aluminum can collector known as klatuu (verada nictu??)..
you were getting back on topic and telling us about hersh’s past record of incorectness and alarmism?
btw you a fan of army of darkness or the day the earth stood still?
March 31st, 2009 at 8:55 pmjoe c dont try and explain th3e difference to klaptoo, he’s unable to distinguish between those expressing opinions and those reporting objective reality..
March 31st, 2009 at 8:57 pmProud Says:
I think YOU are stupid and brainwashed and we would have to be idiots to take your ignorant spewage seriously.
Until our government, a government that is supposed to be working for US comes clean on things such as 9/11, one is stupid NOT to look at all angles. A simple one to point out for you – still to this day there have been no realistic explanation for this.
As I pointed out in my post #57, I take Cheney as a possible serious threat to our country.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:05 pmwow.
be sure to catch rachel’s take on the taliban commander’s threats…
what did she say? something about ‘evidently untraceable phone’ that he made calls to NBC also…
…
March 31st, 2009 at 9:09 pmPakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud threatens to attack America (D.C.)
March 31st, 2009 at 9:11 pmI would not put it past Cheney to have a hand – or the hand of a surrogate – in the threat.
had enough reports on this at #57
http://www.legitgov.org/minot_afb_nukes_oddities.html
March 31st, 2009 at 9:19 pmMarie Says:
Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud threatens to attack America (D.C.)
I would not put it past Cheney to have a hand – or the hand of a surrogate – in the threat.
Most do not want to think our government is capable of such an evil deed and others may be blocking, refusing to comprehend such an act. But if it does happen I would bet the public, for the most part, would quickly point the fingers inside, Cheney(?), rather than a terrorist attack.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:32 pmKlatuu Says:
So is Charles Krauthammer so I’m sure that’s a meaningless award to your type.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You arent sure of anything unless the screechmonkey who does your thinking for you TOLD you to be sure of it. Yeah it means something to me but it was YOU who brought it up. You really are stupid. Far too stupid to know what my type is. Far too stupid to know anything really. You have delusions not knowledge. For instance you cant read minds. You cant tell ME what I think about the pulitzer prize MORON.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:32 pmKrauthammer got his pulitzer for COMMENTARY which isnt about credibility. He is wrong constantly but he is a good writer. Hersh got his for INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM. Tell me that even YOU arent so stupid you cant tell the difference between the two
Klatuu Says: 77
Another inane post for a worthless ignorant troll without a shred of decency or a single functional braincell.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:34 pmKlatuu Says:
And I am so glad they allow morons like you to post so I can laugh at your stupidity
March 31st, 2009 at 9:36 pmProud,
Why are you?
March 31st, 2009 at 9:44 pmThink Progress. Hmmmm, good idea, as in take some courses in the English language and writing skills. Can anyone write here?! I’m stunned by the predominant inability of those who think they have so much to say but can’t say it coherently. It’s obvious that some don’t even try with incomplete or run-on sentences, little or no punctuation, incomplete thoughts, poor spelling. Hell, no wonder we can’t remedy problems in this country anymore. We can’t understand each other, and I don’t mean philosophically, though that too. It begins with the article itself and runs over into the comments. Either the article author cannot write or Mr. Hersch is mentally scrambled, if the language structure of the article is any indication. How can any of you expect to have any credibility?!?!?! This really is a terribly important subject and you all botch it with language that makes you sound like ignorant boobs. I despair.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:50 pmYou can call it (CIA) Cheney Intelligence Agency.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:50 pmKlatuu Says:
had enough Says:
still to this day there have been no realistic explanation for this.
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Not to mention the DUmmie that posted the famous “burning rabbit fence” video proving that the WTC was intentionally demolished.
I’m so glad that TP allows open and honest discussion of this on it’s front page rather than relegating it to a 9-11 DUngeon.
I’ve noticed you gave no explanation… maybe your post would have been worthwhile if you did instead of posting your usual insults.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:51 pm(that klaat fella thinks sy hersh is a “truther” movement figure!? – must lick his news of the bottom of dunkin donut cups.)
March 31st, 2009 at 9:52 pmHi MrSteff
March 31st, 2009 at 9:53 pm#89 MrSteff
Your post has to be one of the most off topic passive aggressive angry ones I have seen here in awhile. And at such effort and length.
What is really bothering you? You can tell us.
March 31st, 2009 at 10:00 pmOf course there are hundreds of people who worked for Cheney who are still working at various jobs and levels in the US government, effectively having been “left behind.”
Why should anyone who contemplates this be made fun of and called an alarmist? Why, indeed, should anyone need to cleave unto Mr. Hersch to add legitimacy to it?
March 31st, 2009 at 10:06 pmI never wish any death on anyone but i must admit i can’t wait until Cheney’s heart stops. Cheney needs to shut his mouth and live in retirement Cheney is very dangerous POWER hungry guy.
March 31st, 2009 at 10:09 pmWhere is MrSteff?
March 31st, 2009 at 10:16 pmI wanted to conjugate some verbs and diagram a few sentences with our new buddy. Now what is the past present pluperfect of “STFU”?
MrSteff Says:
I despair.
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Oh… the irony.
March 31st, 2009 at 10:26 pm“Stay behinds” are what were responsible for the arms for hostage deal that helped Reagan defeat Carter. All the more reason to investigate ans prosecute.
March 31st, 2009 at 10:29 pmKlatuu Says:
This pretty much sums up the intelligence of all conspiracy nutz.
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How odd… you go on and on and on and on about this, to the point your jammies are covered w/ your own spittle, but… you offer NO FACTUAL rebuttal…
Just your usual hysterical, hand-waving hyperbole and name-calling.
Napkin?
March 31st, 2009 at 10:32 pmAMAZING: UTTERLY AMAZING;
March 31st, 2009 at 10:33 pmAs I read these postings I am amazed of two things>
1. How deeply this great nation is in trouble and teeters on the edge of self imploding, repeating the history of the Greeks and the Romans etc.
2. The Godless idiots (liberals, democrats) have been fruitful and multiplied even enough to elect an even greater idiot as their “savior”, lord and master.
What a bunch of blithering neanderthals all of you show yourselves to be in your slobbering love affair with this gutter snipe in a suit.
I don’t see why the MSM isn’t running with the bush cheney crime stories yet. They know everyone is waiting for it. It will be fantastic TV news once it gets under way, and the MSM stands to make a fortune. If they don’t it’s because they can’t… yipes!
MSM, we already know exactly what the republicans think and say and want – don’t give us any more of that, please!@#!. MSM, President Obama is busy doing what he said he would do – what’s with the concern troll stories? It’s time to roll out the main feature – the Bush-Cheney cabal.
March 31st, 2009 at 10:33 pmWiat, wait, MrSteff. Was there no hortatory subjunctive to be commented upon?
March 31st, 2009 at 10:36 pmHi hckll
March 31st, 2009 at 10:36 pmMight you be able to show some evidences to support your thesis or is this just silly talk? I look forward to discussing statement two with you.
cheers-
ckl Says:
The Godless idiots (liberals, democrats) have been fruitful and multiplied even enough to elect an even greater idiot as their “savior”, lord and master.
What a bunch of blithering neanderthals all of you show yourselves to be in your slobbering love affair with this gutter snipe in a suit.
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You’re funny, but not in a way that’s flattering to you.
Fresh Depends, mon troll?
March 31st, 2009 at 10:37 pmOPPS As I was only thinking of the content of the OBOMB’s charactor I forgot to remember that he is black and so he can’t be anything but the greatest president since Lincoln or even Washington himself. Sorry, for a minute there I was thinking MLK really meant what he said, guess that was supposed to be only a one way street logic.
March 31st, 2009 at 10:41 pmKlatuu Says:
joe cantwell Says:
hersh won for international reporting.
But that no way diminishes Hershs’ award in my eye.
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i’m sorry you’re missing your other eye.
did you poke it our with a sharpened
stick while you where mastürbating?
other conservatives have. you can join
a support group. do you wear an eye patch?
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good luck.
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March 31st, 2009 at 10:43 pmhckl
March 31st, 2009 at 10:43 pmSo about those evidences. Are you just spewing opinion or can you point to some specifics you would like me to consider before I decide if the president of the “greatest nation” is a “gutter snipe”?
BTW
March 31st, 2009 at 10:44 pmWannabee latinkings can’t hold gutter snipe jockstraps…
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where = were.
:)
March 31st, 2009 at 10:45 pmThanks for the invite but I don’t wrestle with pigs as you never can win, because you get just as muddy as them and THEY LIKE IT.
Toottles….:)
March 31st, 2009 at 10:46 pmToottles….:)
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March 31st, 2009 at 10:47 pmScared or just a pussy?
…
“Toottles….:)”?
???
March 31st, 2009 at 10:48 pmKlatuu Says:
Do you know about the Fluoride in the water too, or are you suffering from an Olbermann head injury also?
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Of course, thsi has NOTHING t odo w/ Sy Hersh or Cheney.
Have any factual proof to support your rebuttal?
March 31st, 2009 at 10:48 pmI vote “pussy’, db…
Definitely a pussy… classic “poo & shoo”…
March 31st, 2009 at 10:49 pmhckl Says:
Thanks for the invite but I don’t wrestle with pigs as you never can win, because you get just as muddy as them and THEY LIKE IT.
Toottles….:)
March 31st, 2009 at 10:46 pm
So, in other words, you never back up anything you say with facts. Thanks for clearing that up. Don’t let me keep you here.
March 31st, 2009 at 10:50 pmGee, dbadass, I don’t know why none of the trolls want to play with you. ;)
March 31st, 2009 at 10:50 pmhckl Says:
OPPS As I was only thinking of the content of the OBOMB’s charactor I forgot to remember that he is black and so he can’t be anything but the greatest president since Lincoln or even Washington himself. Sorry, for a minute there I was thinking MLK really meant what he said, guess that was supposed to be only a one way street logic.
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you should know,
you’re lying down
in it.
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March 31st, 2009 at 10:50 pmHi Jane!
March 31st, 2009 at 10:51 pmPlease excuse my use of the vernacular
The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity Says:
I vote “pussy’, db…
Definitely a pussy… classic “poo & shoo”…
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interesting;
“pussy”
“klittu”
“toottles”
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as the troll droppings mount
higher the evidence becomes
inescapable.
:::
March 31st, 2009 at 10:52 pmdb,
nothing wrong with talking about
smelly cats when “klituu” and
“hckl” are in the room. i don’t
object but i will defer to jane
if she does.
:)
March 31st, 2009 at 10:55 pmdbadass, you can use the vernacular any time you want.
What’s cooking tonight?
March 31st, 2009 at 10:56 pmOh, I just *love* these pseudointellectual trolls!! It’s such a blatant contradiction in terms!!
“Intellectual troll”? Heheheh!!
Jumbo shrimp, anyone? ;O)
March 31st, 2009 at 10:57 pmjoe, don’t you worry about me! :D
March 31st, 2009 at 10:58 pmOff to watch The Daily Show.
Goodnight, all!
March 31st, 2009 at 10:59 pmMostly halibut Jane
March 31st, 2009 at 11:05 pmSome ceviche on baby greens and just a basic baked with lemon and breadcrumbs. Some left over lobster made for a quick app. Leftover apple pie that the kids made with their grammy wrapped it up
:) :)
thank you jane.
little known fact:
krauthammer is german
for “smelly cat”.
it’s true. just ask klituu.
;|
March 31st, 2009 at 11:11 pmhckl Says:
What is amazing is how stupid you are. Traitorous MORONS that is conservatives and the GOP are just brainwashed sheep without a shred of decency nor a dozen functional braincells between them
March 31st, 2009 at 11:19 pmKlatuu Says: 107
Did you know you were a brainwashed moron? Did you know you are stupid and pathetic? You ignorant troll.
March 31st, 2009 at 11:21 pmhckl Says:
You shouldnt talk about things you have no understanding of like logic. You are stupid and brainwashed. You know less about logic than my goldfish knows about quantum mechanics
March 31st, 2009 at 11:22 pmhckl Says:
Let me invite you to continue your clown show. I just love to laugh at people as stupid as you. I would never call you a pig however. You are FAR too stupid for me to insult swine by comparing them to you.
March 31st, 2009 at 11:24 pmhckl, I see you like to say the word stupid alot. Since your a repug it must be embedded in your brain. I can understand though, after watching your leader for eight years even you were sitting there thinking man this clown is fcking stupid.
April 1st, 2009 at 12:08 amWell thanks for that hckl…now, you mind telling me where Jeckyl is?
April 1st, 2009 at 12:40 amjoe cantwell
Thanks for the link. I just forward a lovely greeting to the triple-chinned gasbag.
April 1st, 2009 at 12:40 amIf Cheney has “stay behinds” in government and especially the NSA, it’s because he’s helping to plan the next attack on US soil. He’s a traitor and a war criminal and should be tried for treason. If we have a terrorist attack, Cheney will be the mastermind behind it.
April 1st, 2009 at 1:46 amklatuu and proud — yikes — are these screw ups Americans? I’m not afraid of darth cheney or his kind, but I do know that darth is quite capable of extraordinary acts of evil. Anyone loyal to darth and anyone reporting to him or supporting a shadow government needs to be outed ASAP.
April 1st, 2009 at 2:25 amooh….and then hckl (scuzzi, I didn’t get that far before the previous post). Such desperate attempts to claim superiority – ouch, the lurking trolls get more freaky on each passing day. My hope is that they won’t resort to violence, yet I suspect they will at some point.
April 1st, 2009 at 2:33 amYou can never get rid of the ones left behind. It appears that many on this discussion believe this was a novel idea for Cheney to leave behind people . That is very naive. But I will say one thing, I bet he is plotting a holocaust of every liberal fool in America. That could be evil..of him….I wouldn’t sleep if I was liberal.
April 1st, 2009 at 2:40 amgoldhillnv Says:
If Cheney has “stay behinds” in government and especially the NSA, it’s because he’s helping to plan the next attack on US soil. He’s a traitor and a war criminal and should be tried for treason. If we have a terrorist attack, Cheney will be the mastermind behind it.
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BINGO!
April 1st, 2009 at 2:42 amjos Says:
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huh? Please define liberal and define progressive in your own words – or if you prefer, use a dictionary.
April 1st, 2009 at 2:45 amDick “The Penguin” Cheney is the most evil, despicable sorry excuse for a human being that I have ever known…I agree with others who have said he should be tried for War Crimes/Crimes against Humanity
April 1st, 2009 at 2:58 amWatch out folks. The “imminent terrorist attacks” on the US won’t be coming from abroad. …
April 1st, 2009 at 3:01 amWaiting……..oh well. My country was founded on liberal and progressive ideals and I will never shrink from knowing who I come from. Equality, fairness, justice, opportunity and responsibility to ourselves and others. Thomas Jefferson to FDR – and some republicans too – Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt. And if you are a Xtian – Jesus would certainly have been considered liberal, if not revolutionary. Can’t handle that the greatest thinkers of all time, thought deeply and responsibly? Too bad, you are apparently just another stupid American, educated in a system bound and determined to keep you stupid and voting and speaking against your own and others best interests. I am ashamed of you and all my fellow Americans who think and behave as you do. You care about no one but your slimy, uneducated, unenlightened, unAmerican self. Shame upon you!
April 1st, 2009 at 3:05 amMy apologies…I “submitted comment” before I finished! If indeed Cheney has “plants” in the Obama Administration then they must be gotten rid of post haste. He would like nothing better than to see President Obama fail and would stop at nothing to achieve that end. That black, wizened organ which supposedly passes for a heart is still beating which means it’s still plotting and scheming. I hope I live to see justice served and he and others in his nefarioius cabal (John Yoo, “Rummy”, Armitage, Ashcroft, Card, et al) get what they so richly deserve. Torture, perhaps?!?!?
April 1st, 2009 at 3:06 ampathoflight Says:
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They never did. Get ready for another false flag operation. Some warnings now about a strike on the White House, I will guess that darth has some involvement. What we all must do (if, when something happens) is stay calm, don’t buy the MSM bull crap. Just remember the last time and how they manipulated everyone — stay focused.
April 1st, 2009 at 3:10 am.
The only thing that’s “CHANGED” are nameplates and underwear.
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April 1st, 2009 at 3:18 amDGF Mitchell Says:
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No, not torture, justice. We have lost justice in our once great country. People who may have committed a crime are charged and tried and get to have their day in court. The evidence against them are displayed. Let’s not lose ourselves in our attempts to rediscover ourselves. I want my country back; I want justice to be served.
April 1st, 2009 at 3:31 amjos Says:
Little boy its time for you to stop masterbating to Red Dawn. Its giving you psychotic fantasies that could easily get a little punk like you hurt
April 1st, 2009 at 4:06 amThere are a few folks here that have been reading too many spy thrillers. I do believe that many administrations leave behind employees in positions that will allow them to continue their government service and hopefully retire one day. That said, being a government employee I can tell you that its all about now, we don’t care about who was in power last week. We just want an unimpeded path to retirement.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:37 amW and Sick Dick should be turned over to the world court and held accountable for the death and destruction they caused. Dickhead is living proof that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Dick sold his soul to the devil and the karma around him is pure evil.
April 1st, 2009 at 9:07 amCheney is the modern day Nixon. Both are named Dick. Both are very, very smart and very, very sly. If I were in the Obama administration I’d be afraid..be very, very afraid.
April 1st, 2009 at 9:08 amBenazir Bhutto, JFK JR., Mel Carnaham, Paul Wellstone (& family), Micheal Connel, the DC Madam, & Bruce Ivins are some of Cheney’s victims?
April 1st, 2009 at 9:21 amClue: trolls often misspell common words, names, etc.
April 1st, 2009 at 10:07 amOk, this is silly. Every single person in here should know that a majority of government workers, especially in DC are liberal. You should have learned that in college, and from the fact that the Bush administration had an unprecedented number of leaks.
As far as this loon investigator, is it me or does the way he talk sound like he quit school when he was in kindergarten? I have no doubt that Cheney loyalists are still working for the government, but to that extent, so are Clintonites, hell the new President just hired a bunch of them back.
April 1st, 2009 at 11:09 am“Can he still control policy up to a point? Probably up to a point, a minor point. But he’s still there. He’s still a presence.”
Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!
April 1st, 2009 at 11:56 amYou people kill me! You are the ones who made an unproven, inexperienced person the leader of the free world. What we need is Dick Cheney as president! Then something whould get done about the economy. These “Fat Cat” banking heads would be in jail or worse. This country is headed for a long overdue revolution.
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green Says:
“And if you are a Xtian – Jesus would certainly have been considered liberal…”
April 1st, 2009 at 3:05 am
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Except for that pesky “go and sin no more” part. ;)
April 1st, 2009 at 1:53 pmWrote a comment on here earlier unsurprisingly it has been removed… HEY GREEN WTF? Do you know what else Thomas Jefferson said? He said that any healthy democracy needed a revolution every few years(FACT). Okay GREEN do you live in a community with welfare recipients? Because I do. I stand behind Them in line at the local Stop and Shop, then follow them into the parking lot as they load their groceries into a nice brand new Escaillade? Where is the problem here I work 50 hours a week and can”t affford a 96 FORD EXPLORER here what am I doing wrong here champ. I assume GREEN that you never served a day in the military in your life, opposed to most of the countries that you support that require a certain amount of SERVICE TO THEIR COUNTRY. On the other hand my friend I have served but still believe that I would rather serve with good americans that choose to serve rather than spineless jellyfish like you who are forced into it! Sorry was that a run on sentence… Sorry missed college!!!!!
April 1st, 2009 at 11:36 pm>Except for that pesky “go and sin no more” part. ;)
your seriously deluded if you think liberals “sin” (your word, not mine) more than republicans do…we’re just more honest about it. then again, weirdos like you think throwing away a petri dish of embryos is more of a sin that killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in a war based on lies..
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