Sanford: It would be ‘fiscal child abuse’ to accept millions of stimulus dollars for education.
Sanford: It would be ‘fiscal child abuse’ to accept millions of stimulus dollars for education.
As Gov. Mark Sanford (R-SC) continues to wage an ideological war against $700 million of sorely-needed stimulus funds for his state, he has become more and more desperate to stave off his critics. Tonight on Glenn Beck’s Fox show, Sanford claimed that accepting the funds — 80 percent of which would fund education in his state — would be akin to “fiscal child abuse”:
BECK: But your point, if I’m not mistaken is, no, no, no, you’re taking care of the children in South Carolina by not taking it. Can you explain that? [...]
SANFORD: Since we don’t have any of this money that’s now being dispensed from Washington, DC; since we’re going out and printing money and we’re issuing debt to solve a problem that was created by too much debt; since that’s taking place, and since those costs will be borne by the next generation, in fact it is sort of fiscal child abuse to do what we’re doing.
BECK: Yes.
Watch it:
It’s unclear whether South Carolina student Ty’Sheoma Bethea will agree that denying her crumbling school the stimulus cash it needs to rebuild — or that firing 4,000 state teachers — is protecting her from child abuse.
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I doubt many of Sanford’s “critics” watch Beck’s show.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:46 pmSo lemme get this straight — it’s fiscal child abuse to go into debt to educate children, but it’s NOT fiscal child abuse to go into debt financing pointless wars?
Seems to me it’s the other way around. Debt is debt, but in the latter scenario we’re pouring our money into a black hole, and in the former, we are investing in our future (with a much great chance of getting a return on our investment).
Why can’t Sanford just be honest and say, “Republican debt is good and Democratic debt is bad”? We all know this is what he means.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:47 pmI’d like to know what South Carolina’s debt is. Who do they owe and for what?
March 31st, 2009 at 5:53 pmIf he takes the money and helps to educate the children of the state of s. carolina..
March 31st, 2009 at 5:55 pmperhaps one of those children will lead us out of the wilderness this un-educated boob, who said or did nothing over the past 8 years help allow to happen…
wait…maybe he doesn’t care if America ends up ruled under China….
No that’s Un-American…
Beck and Sanford, STFU and go start your own country, maybe in Texas or Alaska…
Sanford = mental molecule.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:55 pmYes, it’s true: Black Is White, Left Is Right, Up Is Down, A Circle Is A Square, Smart Is Dumb, Orange Is Purple, Fingers Are Toes, Mothers Are Fathers, War Is Peace, Water Is Solid, It’s Good To Screw Your Constituents and on and on
/Sarc off
March 31st, 2009 at 5:56 pmpick out a shopping cart and a nice bridge to live under, South Carolina.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:57 pmSo then I guess Sanford would agree that the Bush Administration committed “fiscal child abuse” for the 8 years when he doubled our national debt from $5 trillion to $10 trillion.
March 31st, 2009 at 5:57 pmSanford’s vision of an ideal world… keep them dumb and on the plantation. He doesn’t want the poor folks in SC getting an education. Education is not a problem for the rich because they can pay for private education. As for the fundies, they home school.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:02 pmSeeing that this republitard is posturing for the conservopundit crowd and hoping to get RushHannity’s support for his presidential bid by refusing stimulus funds, I can’t wait to see how he fares in the 2012 South Carolina GOP primary. I’ll bet there will be a huge turnout for the “anyone but Sanford” candidate.
I smell mendacity!
March 31st, 2009 at 6:03 pmi see the Repuglican Orwellian doubletalk machine is still in operation….
March 31st, 2009 at 6:05 pmWar is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength
What is “fiscal child abuse” is the fact that Sanford and previous Republican governors of the state have starved the education system in SC to the point where they are dead last in rankings. I think that depriving the children in your state of a decent education is “fiscal child abuse”, don’t you?
March 31st, 2009 at 6:05 pmGuido – their hypocrisy makes me sick. And then they wonder why they are becoming more and more marginalized each day.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:06 pmFiscal Child Abuse from the party that knows exactly what it’s talking about?
March 31st, 2009 at 6:11 pmCParis – Would Sanford be stupid enough to run as a presidential candidate in 2012? Omg, I can’t stop laughing. How foolish of him to even think that any state other than a few southern states would even vote for him. He wouldn’t stand a chance unless SC is planning on forming a new nation, a nation of dumbf* *ks.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:12 pmGov Sanford: Protecting the children of South Carolina from that great nuisance called education.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:14 pmYep – the plantation mentality survives in Charleston (Sanford is from a well-heeled lowcountry family).
Charleston, where the offices of the board of education are referred to as the Taj Mahal while a school within sight of the board is crumbling.
And when a volunteer group wired an inner-city school for internet, the school was then converted to a charter school and the low income folks were kicked out.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:17 pmHells bells, I just realized that I am a child abuser. My two boys don’t seem to mind the abuse though, and have pretty solid jobs.
The poor abused nanlichis know where to go if they need someone to do some landscaping, or clean their windows. Thanks Sanford, for the supply of cheap labor! Heaven forbid they be abused with a good education.
And Beck just sucks.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:23 pmIt’s South Carolina — nothing more need be said.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:30 pmsanford spells it edukayshun..Sc proud to be stupid yeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaawww
March 31st, 2009 at 6:33 pmThis ideologic is idiot logical on it’s face. How, tell me will he protect the children of his state from repaying this “debt”. Regardless of whether or not South Carolina accepts this stimulus money for the education of its children, all citizens will bear the burden, whatever that is, of repaying back this debt. So by not taking South Carolina’s fair share of stimulus funds for the Education of its children, they will still be burdened by the repayment, I guess in higher tax burdens for later generations. However, those children will be at a definite disadvantage when compared to all the other children whose states used those funds to educate them for higher paying jobs in their later years.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:34 pmCome on now, who are you kidding, Gov. Sanford,(republican, SC), You are damaging those you should be protecting. It’s that simple!
Just to refresh my memory–what exactly does the Republican Party stand for any more? Where does Sanford’s stance help promote the GOP in any way? I don’t recall SC being a model for anything–let alone education.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:39 pm#22 – Whenwillthisnightmareend,
Actually the children of SC will be on welfare and not owe a dime to the debt. Sad, but, true.
Of course, SC will continue to be a backwater swamp swarming with stupidity and Sen. Linseed Graham(cracker) will be their leader.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:40 pmSanford has a point: I mean, what has education every done for Republicans? The GOP cult is comprised of badly home-schooled, spirit worshiping, uninformed clods.
Education? We don’t need no stinkin’ education – just lots of bible thumpin’.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:42 pmIt’s pretty obvious he’s using the recession as an opportunity to improve his state’s bottom line, by making conditions so deplorable, the poor move to a different state.
The neighboring governors will complain, but what can they do? Attempt to race him to the bottom? Or try to capitalize on the situation, by allowing his governorship to self-destruct, and try to entice some of the fleeing businesses to also resettle in their states?
March 31st, 2009 at 6:42 pmNorth Carolina schools rank 23rd overall in the U.S.A. Mediocrity is apparently acceptable but federal aid is not. That may also explain the number of registered Republicans in that state. Why are the Gops so afraid of teaching a new generation of Americans critical thinking skills?
March 31st, 2009 at 6:44 pm#26 – barfly,
I’m thinkin’ he hopes the poor will try to make it to a “new and better world” in NOLA.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:45 pm#27,
It’s South Carolina we are discussing….
March 31st, 2009 at 6:46 pmThey’re not all asleep at the wheel. I found this editorial in a S.C. newspaper:
link
March 31st, 2009 at 6:47 pmI’m also surprised that the RePugniScum governor would not LOVE boat loads of money to continue funding the completely corrupt educational systems in SC.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:52 pmSANFORD: Since we don’t have any of this money that’s now being dispensed from Washington, DC; since we’re going out and printing money and we’re issuing debt to solve a problem that was created by too much debt; since that’s taking place, and since those costs will be borne by the next generation, in fact it is sort of fiscal child abuse to do what we’re doing
I enjoy the lecture The Republican Sanford is giving on fiscal prudence! The only administration that had balanced budget for the last 30 years was a Clinton, running a surplus (he was a Democrat). President Obama is spending in order for our children to have an economy, and there isn’t a choice. The biggest problem during the Great Depression was the 3 years the government did practically nothing to help the economy,
March 31st, 2009 at 6:53 pmand that prolonged the recovery. All politics are local, and Sanford’s job is the state of South Carolina’s business. Mixing it with national Republican politics may very well cost him his job, if the electorate of his state has any commen sense..
Another use of South Carolina money, welfare for the rich.
$52.2 million grant to Vought Aircraft Industries, an affiliate of The Carlyle Group
I take it Child Protective Services will visit Bush/Cheney for their trillions in “fiscal child abuse” during their rule.
March 31st, 2009 at 6:56 pmStratRat Says:
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Sanford has a point: I mean, what has education every done for Republicans? The GOP cult is comprised of badly home-schooled, spirit worshiping, uninformed clods.
Education? We don’t need no stinkin’ education – just lots of bible thumpin’.
On another point, StratRat, you have stooped to a conservative Republican’s level. Lets change the tone. Thinking a thought is one thing (I have your same thoughts on the subject). Putting those thoughts into words is called crass. They spelled it this way for a reason.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:05 pmRetraction and amendment.The PeloPro admits mistake. A victim of enthusiasm, I mistakenly posted the ranking of N Carolina,{23} when Sanford represents South Carolina at 26th overall. EVEN MORE MEDIOCRE! My apologies to readers in North Carolina!
March 31st, 2009 at 7:12 pmI can’t get over the fact that these righties have child abuse on the brain. Education is child abuse in S.C., O’Reilly thinks kids who are abused enjoy it, and Rush buys child hookers in the Dominican Republic. Then, along comes pastcaring @#15 with a killer link that proves my point. I’m beginning to believe that any time someone registers as a repuglican they would also be registering as a sex offender.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:14 pmCan someone explain why Obama is letting Timmy go along with this bank bailout plan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-arbfLTCtI
Looks like both republicans and democrats are bought and owned by the banks. Now they’re going to own all of you.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:25 pmyou mean they didn’t already??
where you been, adviceguy?
March 31st, 2009 at 7:27 pmThe roof has blown off of your house — would you got into dept to replace it? Of course you would — give me a break. PS don’t ask me to come down there and help you fix things the next time a storm takes off your roof — live with it. That what blue tarps are for. I will go help someone who at least can say thank you.
Dave
March 31st, 2009 at 7:30 pmHow about a balanced budget? What a novel idea.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:46 pm26. Barfly said “by making conditions so deplorable, the poor move to a different state.”
Barfly, I personally know several folks who were in need of public assistance in Georgia and SC who eventually left out of state for better benefits.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:47 pmi would have more respect for the turd on the left if he’d just cave into his urges, crawl under the desk and “service” every repukie he has on his “show”. you know that’s meaning to glenn beck’s existance…a “fluffer”
March 31st, 2009 at 7:54 pm“Sorely-needed stimulus funds?” That is your view. I got a feeling the Gov. of South Carolina has a more informed idea about the situation in his state.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:54 pmsure – he goes to all the best country clubs there…
March 31st, 2009 at 7:57 pmbalanced like Clinton’s,
or
“balanced” like Bush’s?
March 31st, 2009 at 7:57 pmmeanwhile, the unemployment rate in his state is hovering around 12 percent, one of the highest in the nation.
March 31st, 2009 at 7:58 pmanyone else see this was the best month for the Dow since ‘02?
maybe i’m wrong, but i think it’d be easier to pay down debts when revenue/income is higher, rather than lower, but i never mastered the idiot math R’s use on these things….
March 31st, 2009 at 8:00 pmIt’s free money. Sanford doesn’t have to worry about the federal government’s budget. This is absolute nonsense.
http://www.pufferfishblog.com/
March 31st, 2009 at 8:21 pmkwsventures Says:
How about a balanced budget? What a novel idea.
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What simpleminded thinking. Its like you crashed your car then say I dont want to go into debt buying another car. That of course does mean I cant get to work or get my children to school or go buy my groceries or basically anything else to keep the family functioning but its NOW time to live within my means. Not last year when I gambled away ten times my income on the Iraq war, NO, NOW its time.
March 31st, 2009 at 8:23 pmkwsventures Says:
And that is YOUR view. I think the guy is an idiot
March 31st, 2009 at 8:23 pmThe next time any average person says the mentally ill don’t have a voice in America, please point them to the nearest loony conservative(s).
March 31st, 2009 at 8:31 pmtombaker Says:
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anyone else see this was the best month for the Dow since ‘02?
maybe i’m wrong, but i think it’d be easier to pay down debts when revenue/income is higher, rather than lower, but i never mastered the idiot math R’s use on these things….
tombaker, you piss me off. You got the word to exactly what I was thinking (I couldn’t get them together). Don’t stimulate the ecoonomy and it would take years to recover. I’m not ready to apply Hooveromics; Reagmnomics and Bushomics are enough for one life time.
March 31st, 2009 at 8:32 pmSo it is not child abuse to deny today’s child an education?
March 31st, 2009 at 8:51 pmtombaker Says:
anyone else see this was the best month for the Dow since ‘02?
Yes. I had seen that, tom. I wonder if FAUX will have it scrolling across the screen while they speculate how much of it is due to the actions of our new President?
March 31st, 2009 at 8:57 pmIf I understand this mental midget, it is educational child abuse to want educated children. He wants them ignorant or desperate enough that the military is their only option. This way they can fight Republican wars and work for slave wages in Republican dead end jobs. If there is no educated populace they are middle class or upper middle class. Which is what they want.
That guy Sanford. Just how does anyone stand someone who is nothing but a political party? An ideology with no humanity to soften it. He would rather have a one party second rate country.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:03 pmmr. ventures again proves short on material and long on unoriginal, baseless conjecture.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:07 pmGov. Sanford can’t run for another term. He’s not concerned about re-election. His argument about generational debt is total BS. He’s grandstanding, denying South Carolinians federal stimulus dollars in order to paint himself as a fiscal conservative. He’s considering a presidential run in 2010. Like a strict father spanking an attention-seeking child, Sanford has convinced some South Carolinians that he’s inflicting the pain for their own good. I call BS on that! South Carolina is a high proverty state to begin with, ranking well below most states by most measures. Sanford is another Republican who benefits from keeping the people poor, undereducated, and desperate. People of SC, it’s time to get out your pitchforks march on Columbia!
March 31st, 2009 at 9:19 pmFirst off, I think we can do without the “this is South Carolina we’re talking about” comments. There is no perfect state in the Union, and South Carolina is still part of our country. It’s the governor that is turning the money down here.
Second of all, am I mistaken here, or did Glenn Beck act as if he was the conductor in his own personal orchestra when Sanford dropped the “child abuse” moniker? It’s as if he had planted that seed in the conversation himself.
Offering money, denying money, whatever. Just don’t associate either with child abuse.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:22 pmPurple State Says:
…did Glenn Beck act as if he was the conductor in his own personal orchestra when Sanford dropped the “child abuse” moniker?
I noted that too. My first thought was that it looked rehearsed. Now that I think about it, I’m wondering if it was rehearsed of if Becky actually wrote the “answer” he needed to “prove” how evil all those “libruls” really are.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:42 pmSANFORD NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED. I lived in Columbia, SC for 2 years on assignment and hated every minute of it. It was like stepping waaaaay back in time. It is child abuse to deny kids a decent education. If some of those schools that I saw were in any other place they would be torn down and a new school would be built. All those teachers are going to be laid off because of Sanford’s political posturing? What a crime.
March 31st, 2009 at 9:53 pmSo,by denying these children an education he is making them smarter and wiser about being fiscally responsible?I don`t get it.How did this wack job get elected?What is this country coming to?This is F@#^ed up!Grab the Tar and feathers boys and girls,there`s gonna be a blanket party in South Carolina soon.
March 31st, 2009 at 11:49 pmThese actions compel us to remember that conservatism is a mental illness.
April 1st, 2009 at 12:02 amSANFORD: Since we don’t have any of this money that’s now being dispensed from Washington, DC; since we’re going out and printing money and we’re issuing debt to solve a problem that was created by too much debt; since that’s taking place, and since those costs will be borne by the next generation, in fact it is sort of fiscal child abuse to do what we’re doing.
Its not going to be as bad as the abuse your a$$ is going to recieve when you’re up for re-election!
April 1st, 2009 at 1:42 amWhat an idiot.
Spending didn’t cause the problem chimpy’s wars did.
Child abuse is letting the children suffer now because he doesn’t like President Obama.
April 1st, 2009 at 1:42 amWhat does this racist care…after all it would benefit African-Americans the most.
April 1st, 2009 at 1:47 am.
I get it…
… Keep the kids uneducated because they won’t feel the burden hitting their wallet on their MickeyD and Walmart salaries.
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April 1st, 2009 at 3:28 amPeople in the South deserve no money. They keep sending war-mongering fascists to Washington.
April 1st, 2009 at 9:03 amJust one more loser trying to make a name for himself.
April 1st, 2009 at 10:38 amLet’s hope the SC finally wakes up and realizes that their current representation is very lacking and they vote for someone better next time around.
My response to any of these States that are feeling the pinch when it comes to accepting government stimulus is to work on creating job without goveernment money. Your state will come out better in the long run. More governors need to be creative and stop looking for federal handouts. Sanford is right, the gov will make demands on the state and what happens when the $$ stops and the governor is left as the scapegoat.
April 1st, 2009 at 11:36 amThe last thing SC wants is educated black children!! FACT!! Don’t believe me…review what is spent on districts with white children and districts that are prodominately black!!!
The Feds should be called in to investigate!!!
April 1st, 2009 at 3:26 pmClinton’s balanced budget? Okay. But we kind of have to give Newt and the republican congress a tiny, little piece of credit for passing that balanced budget. Oh, sorry. That isn’t allowed on this website.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:57 amSomebody mentioned pointless wars. Did you mean the 29 recognized wars going on right now, at 1000 dead per day. Obambi wants to unite the world, well then he’ll be supporting quite a few wars.
As for funding schools. Kids will learn if they choose to learn, no amount of money can force a kid to learn. When will you people realize it our nature to destroy each other. Just look at the way you treat people that don’t support Obambi or gay marriage.
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