Glenn Beck: I was wrong. We’re not marching to socialism, we’re marching toward fascism.
Glenn Beck: I was wrong. We’re not marching to socialism, we’re marching toward fascism.
For almost a year, Glenn Beck has been warning with increasing panic that America is headed toward socialism. Tonight, he issued a correction: “They” are not marching the United States toward socialism, Beck explained, but actually fascism:
It all adds up to me, having to admit that I was wrong. Our government is not marching down the road towards communism or socialism. … But now I have to tell you that they’re not marching us that direction. They’re marching us to a non-violent fascism. Or to put it another way, they’re marching us to 1984. Big Brother. … Like it or not, fascism is on the rise.
Though Beck claimed he didn’t mean “Adolf Hitler kind of fascism” and that he was talking about “fascism with a happy face,” he illustrated his point with more than a minute’s worth of Nazi footage, played dramatically on the full screen behind him. Watch it:
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Thanks for letting us know what you and your GOP backing brethren are up to at RNC headquarters , Glenn ……….
April 1st, 2009 at 6:15 pmwho’s even marching, ass?
hysterical crybaby.
incoherent ninny.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:16 pmGee whiz, first we are marching one way, then we are marching in the opposite direction. I’m getting dizzy!
April 1st, 2009 at 6:17 pmthere is something SERIOUSLY wrong with the people who let this guy on tv everynight.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:17 pmNot to worry, America–that’s just wacky and kooky TV-Guy Glenn Beck and his wacky and crazy show. Ain’t it zany?
April 1st, 2009 at 6:21 pmThe big problem is Glenn is leading his followers to fascism and doesn’t even know it.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:21 pmWhat the f^#k do you call the last 8 years of Bushco?Civil Liberty`s being put into question, illegall wiretapping,invading a sovereign nation what the hell his Beck thinking?Morons are all that is on Faux news.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:22 pmWTF??? Somebody needs to send this ignorant clown a book on ideology. He has clearly been steeped so long in his own that his brain–and I use that word charitably–has turned to tapioca.
Apparently, Beckie-Boy thinks that adding “ism” to any old thing will confuse and frighten his inbred audience. Problem is, I suspect he’s right.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:22 pmGlenn Beck and Sean Hannity obviously don’t know the differences among capitalism, socialism and fascism. Put down the tissues and pick up a book.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:24 pmA little late there Beck… we held a successful election to oust the actual Facists back in November of last year.
Why would ANYONE take their cues from Jonah Goldberg. Beck really is losing “it”.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:26 pmNot only is this sad and alarmingly pathetic , it’s doubly ridiculous because the simple fact of the matter is that Beck doesn’t even know the definition of communism , socialism and fascism , let alone their inherent difference(s)………..
April 1st, 2009 at 6:26 pmbecky I predict that your little 15 mins are up in…3,
Still trying to find something that will stick, teabag?
what your type doesn’t understand is that we back President Obama.
becky look it up before you start crying again…I mean…start cutting onions again.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:26 pmWho was that oddball from the other day that was argueing that socialism and fascism are one and the same. I trust it was just a wannabee Latin King incarnation but still which one was it?
April 1st, 2009 at 6:27 pmPoor becky boy is scared of everything but mormonism…ROFLAO…..What an idiot. Proof the reich wingers need chlorine in their gene pools….Blessings
April 1st, 2009 at 6:29 pmTeary-eyed Glenn reminds me of the Postal Managers Credo, which states: “When in Worry, or in Doubt–Run in Circles, Scream and Shout!!” Your hair is on fire, Beck and it’s cooking your pea brain.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:30 pmThis from the man who just a couple days ago laid out the “I’m just kidding, a rodeo clown. Nobody should take anything I say seriously.”?
April 1st, 2009 at 6:33 pmConcentration spas serving broccoli and tofu opening in a convenient location near you, soon.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:34 pmOnly an idiot would believe anything you say, according to yourself, right Beck?
April 1st, 2009 at 6:35 pmIf Fox News as a News organization this would be embarrasing.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:36 pmThey’re marching us to a non-violent fascism.
“Fascist movements promote violence between nations, political factions, and races as part of a social Darwinist and militarist stance that views violence between these groups as a natural and positive part of evolution.”
Good call there , Glenn ……………..
April 1st, 2009 at 6:36 pmFacsism..damm what are you getting teary eyed because your already missing the last 8 yrears of it..
heil bushit
April 1st, 2009 at 6:37 pmIt’s a bit troubling and unsettling that there are large numbers of people that stop what they’re doing and sit in front of the TV and watch this idiot.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:40 pmThis is not at all funny. This is dangerous. Lots of poor, ill-educated people believe what he says. The fact that he is on the “news” lends a sort of legitimacy.
Who sponsors this crap? It’s time to tell them to stop it.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:40 pm” Or to put it another way, they’re marching us to 1984. Big Brother.”
Says the guy using propaganda footage in classic propaganda style.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:41 pmas part of the delayed cable upgrade, the federal government will be implementing a feature in all analog-to-digital converter boxes sold under the discount plan that will automatically identify on-screen during news broadcasts the veracity of the information being presented. the upgrade will display at the bottom of the viewer’s screen one of the following messages:
“FACT”
“OPINION”
“DISTORTION”
“MISREPRESENTATION”
“OUTRIGHT LIE” or
“BULLSH1T”
insiders suspect that the delay in the switch to digital cable was forced by system overloads occurring when prototypes were tested using stock fox news broadcasts.
happy april fools day everyone.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:41 pmBeck’s the perfect example of why Nits and Wits should not be allowed to cross-breed.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:43 pmYou know, glenn beck has been a let down lately. It’s just not the same without the weeping.
The only entertaining part is the nervous breakdown shtick. You know what he’s saying won’t make any sense if you try to figure it out so why bother. You already know what his angle is, and his guest’s angle is, so that about covers it. But as soon as he starts bawling again watch the ratings soar. i think i saw a movie exactly like this…
April 1st, 2009 at 6:46 pmWhat’s with the big faces in the background? If anything, this little broadcast is Big Brother incarnate. Perhaps his audience should attach an electrode directly to the lizard brain. What a lot of bombastic, emotional garbage.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:46 pmI would laugh at this fool if there weren’t others who bizarrely agree with him.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:47 pmGlen, you were only half right. You were wrong.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:49 pmI really wish someone would make a nice documentary. Split screen with 1930’s Nazi tactics displayed on one side and 2000-now Republican tactics on the other.
It would have to be close captioned for the learning impaired.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:50 pm
April 1st, 2009 at 6:50 pmenough Says:
This is not at all funny. This is dangerous. Lots of poor, ill-educated people believe what he says. The fact that he is on the “news” lends a sort of legitimacy.
enough – this worries me as well. I am constantly amazed at how (and I hate to say it – but) STUPID people can be. Beck doesn’t even seem to know what fascism is, but that doesn’t stop him, and there are way too many people who will swallow the BS hook, line, and sinker.
I agree with other posters that there is something seriously wrong with this guy. The network needs to take him off the air right now.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:52 pmon topic:
is it just me or is he seriously mixing metaphors here, aside from admitting that his self-righteous socialism diatribe for the last year had no basis in reality?
the memory he’s invoking with the ‘big brother’ reference is about being constantly watched, not about fascism per se. he uses scary footage from a time before 1984 was written and during which ubiquitous surveillance would have been practically impossible.
and the memory he’s invoking rings far more true of what bush did, with encouragement from right-wing d-bags such as this one, in terms of reducing americans’ civil liberties and privacy protections.
so if the beckster wants to complain about us becoming a fascist state, let’s see if he’s in favor of repealing the patriot act, or reaffirming roe v. wade: those are about privacy and personal liberty (i.e., the anti-fascism), too.
btw, i love the comment about the fasces; you know they’re mounted on the wall behind the president’s chair in the senate chamber, right next to the flag and the inscription “in god we trust”. so does that mean the senate’s complicit, too, beckie?
April 1st, 2009 at 6:53 pmBeck is probably the most useless, lying, s*it-disturbing, anti-American dolt ever put on the air. Of course he’s with Fox. He has absolutely no understanding of facts & journalism. He even said- himself!!- that only idiots believe him. How anyone (Fox) can pay a buffoon who calls his viewers idiots is beyond any comprehension. Fox (& Beck) – the only media outlet that ridicules & hates its own viewers. Amazing.
April 1st, 2009 at 6:58 pm**
i see there are no trolls who wish
line up and defend him. i can’t blame
them. who wants to be clobbered with
this quote from beck, ‘if you take what
I say as gospel, you’re an idiot.’?
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April 1st, 2009 at 7:04 pmBeck provides a valuable service to advertisers: a gullible group of ignorant people that believe anything the tv says, no matter how obviously false and easily disproven it is
that is an EASY audience to sell Shamwows and Snuggies and Power Chairs to
April 1st, 2009 at 7:04 pmSomewhere — a maximum security, mental health institution is missing one of it’s most deranged patients.
Just saying . . .
April 1st, 2009 at 7:04 pmObviously Michelle Bachmann believes everything Beck says.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:05 pmPerhaps all of us lefties should start wearing smiley face buttons to let the Glenn Beck Battalions know that we surround them?
What a lunatic turd this Beck-hole has become. I hope CNN is proud to have allowed this wingnut to inubate on their watch.
-GSD
April 1st, 2009 at 7:12 pm@dasm -
You got the utterly apt, succinct characterization: “dolt”
April 1st, 2009 at 7:13 pmTo Glenn, political discourse is a lottery or a game show. You can’t simply guess what “ism” label that society has branded itself and hope that a bell goes off to tell you you’re correct. And it sounds to me that Fox has been putting their chips in on “fascism”, “socialism”, “communism” and “totalitarianism” in hopes that their number someday comes up.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:19 pmdbadass Says:
Who was that oddball from the other day that was argueing that socialism and fascism are one and the same. I trust it was just a wannabee Latin King incarnation but still which one was it?
It had to have been Olbermann obsessed os/archie/habib. He has convinced himself that the right-wing fascist Nazis were socialists because “socialist” is in the name. Trolls aren’t very bright.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:20 pmFascism it what we had under Bush!
April 1st, 2009 at 7:22 pmDuring the Bush administration, a lot of people, myself included, compared Republicans to fascists. In typical Rovian style, if your opponent compares you with a fascist, you turn it around and compare them to fascists, even it if makes absolutely no sense. This is just more of the same wingnuttery I have come to expect from Republicans.
Here’s a little guide to fascism. Perhaps Mr. Beck should go through all fourteen points and explain how Democrats are more like fascists then Republicans.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:23 pmI suspect we’ll see an on-air human sacrifice shortly.
And this will finally satiate Ralph Malph’s request of “You Wanted to See it” from Happy Days lore.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:23 pmI wouldnt have believed Fox could find a pundit even dumber than Hannity but they may have done so. This guy barely speaks in complete sentences and there isnt a hint of coherence. This guy needs help. FAST.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:29 pmIt was that moron Jonah Goldberg who equated “liberalism” with “fascism.”
April 1st, 2009 at 7:31 pmGlenn, in the meantime, is marching headlong, double-time, into….
Ass-ism.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:34 pmDid everyone see Colbert rip Beck earlier this week – he does it as no one else can.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/01/stephen-colbert-rips-apar_n_181673.html
I do believe that we may see Beck dissolve into insanity on camera one day. He already is bordering insane, but I expect him to just lose it all on the air.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:41 pm“Not all conservatives are stupid; but most stupid people are conservative.” Jon Stewart
Glenn Beck obviously proves the latter.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:42 pmI also have Soviet-propaganda-like nightmares featuring Ben Bernanke and his sinister beard. Finally, a journalist that speaks for me and my Ambien hallucinations!
April 1st, 2009 at 7:42 pmYou’ve got to admit that Glenn Beck is one lucky MF. Here’s a guy who flunked out of clown school, and still got a prime time cable show. There’s something just not fair about what goes around in this world.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:45 pmCome on, dude. Which way am I supposed to be marching? I’m gonna get confused and go right when I should have gone left…or is it the other way around? Sheesh.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:45 pmBeckie boy….the definition of fascism:
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator (BUSH/CHANEY), stringent socioeconomic controls(NO HEALTH CARE,NO GOV HELP,UNFETHERED MILITARY SPENDING,PATRIOT ACT,SPYING ON ITS CITIZENS) suppression of the opposition (OUTING CIA AGENTS,PHIL DONEHUE)through terror (CHANEY DEATH SQUADS,FALSE IMMENANT THREATS,TERORISTS) and censorship(MSM MINIPULATION,BANNING BOOKS PALIN), and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism (GOD BLESS THE USA,GOD GUNS AND NO EDUCATION)and racism(BARACK HUSSAIN OBAMA,JIM CROW).
A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
Oppressive, dictatorial control.
WOW…IT’S LIKE THERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE GOP. WOW…JUST WOW!!!!!
April 1st, 2009 at 7:46 pmdbadass Says:
Who was that oddball from the other day that was argueing that socialism and fascism are one and the same. I trust it was just a wannabee Latin King incarnation but still which one was it?
That was the marathon troll, Silence is Golden, early in the forty-eight hour Olbermann/O’reilly thread.
To my request that he define “fascism” here’s what he said:
Ahh, you know the general socialist/leftist deal, propaganda, shooting/jailing reporters, silencing critics in the name of the state. That sort of thing.
Of course, you will have the highly illogical Professor Lefty definition, which is bogus.
But this is not one of Twajie’s sockpuppets. SIG is the latest nom de troll of our old pal glezzery, who got ousted a couple months back for babbling and general idiocy (at least, I presume that’s why he was bounced, as it was all he ever contributed here.)
April 1st, 2009 at 7:46 pmMarie:
I’m betting that Beck will pull a “Howard Beale” any day now.
I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it anymore!!!
April 1st, 2009 at 7:47 pmThanks ralph. You are correct. I have sort of a shitty memory. Might have been that youthful experimentation…
April 1st, 2009 at 7:48 pmralph, how do you keep track of all the trolls?
April 1st, 2009 at 7:48 pmThose who don’t study history are doomed to have a cable show.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:51 pmangels81 Says:
ralph, how do you keep track of all the trolls?
I’ve been thinking for a long time that I should keep a log of trolls, with some identifiers for each so i could identify the next sock puppet incarnation.
And then I think “Why would I bother?” There isn’t a single one worth the effort.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:51 pmI wonder what Beck would call this…Privatization?
April 1st, 2009 at 7:54 pmgummble-bee-itch: Thanks for the laughs. I just spilled my Bloody Mary all over my keyboard.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:54 pmHas this stupid bastard actually read “1984″? I’m guessing not, since he missed the premise by a country mile.
April 1st, 2009 at 7:57 pm… we’re marching toward fascism…
well, it’s about time he woke up…
oh…
April 1st, 2009 at 7:57 pm… Nazi footage, played dramatically on the full screen behind him.
i can’t watch.
but, isn’t that bernacke?
April 1st, 2009 at 7:59 pmBeck has to pick it up a notch, that’s for sure. boooorring…
Lou dobbs is another one. He doesn’t get along with Barney Frank apparently. But the middle class gets along with Frank just fine. so much for Mr. Independant Lou. Dobbs is loosing credibility and possibly his mind as fast as Beck. To regain credibility, the MSM needs to re-tool their shows to the new post Bushco, post Republican world. Beck and company may not be too worried about credibility anymore though, now that they have none, so now is the time to roll out the incredible for them.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:01 pmJust remember folks, today is April Fools Day. All the repug fools are out today to say the dumbest thing that they can think of.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:03 pm—
A stupid shit-for-brains gets a TV show while a Thom Hartmann only reaches a select few.
Yeah…the “librul media” is alive and well alright.
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April 1st, 2009 at 8:07 pmSay, Fox, why don’t you just give Charles Manson a show?
April 1st, 2009 at 8:10 pmSomeone said they sent Beck a fourteen point summary of fascism for him to use on his show. That’s a great idea! I hope he gets to read it.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:14 pmIt’s not easy. But SIG is easy to remember because he spent almost forty-eight hours defending O’Reilly while trying to claim he didn’t care about O’Reilly.
He also admitted he was glezzery, and I have a sort of fascination with the phenomenon of troll reincarnation.
He seemed pretty bitter about having been banned as glezzy.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:17 pmOne of these days, Becky-Poo is going to confuse even himself into a death spiral. Let’s hope it’s soon, let’s hope it’s on air, please.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:24 pmlooks like the pro-glenn trolls are all busy……
MARCHING-UP-AND-DOWN-THE-SQUARE!!
April 1st, 2009 at 8:24 pmGlenn should cry some more on why we’re not unified over a grave disaster that fell through his buddies laps because the national defense was boring, tedious, serious stuff that was over 98% of the administration’s heads.
Or he should tell us how the Beck household writes journals on how they’re witnesses to elitist, indecisive revisionist history.
Given the current market, those memoirs should be worth a cool $50 as expensive toilet paper to someone at AIG.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:24 pmIf somebody already posted this, my apologies, but you’ve got to watch Colbert rip Beck a new one on his show last night. Hilarious!
April 1st, 2009 at 8:28 pm11. 666cicadas Says:
A little late there Beck… we held a successful election to oust the actual Facists back in November of last year.
well, yes, that is a more accurate statement…
April 1st, 2009 at 8:30 pmsometimes i forget…
I dont think Glenn intends to make any sense, kinda like Morticia Adams, he wants to be seen as mysterious and oooky.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:34 pmenough Says:
This is not at all funny. This is dangerous. Lots of poor, ill-educated people believe what he says. The fact that he is on the “news” lends a sort of legitimacy.
Who sponsors this crap? It’s time to tell them to stop it.
exactly… TP – another project for you! for US!
April 1st, 2009 at 8:36 pmThe different -isms are so hard to tell apart when you don’t know anything about any of them.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:39 pmAs long as we’re talking about TV,
This is not too far off topic:
MSNBC has hired liberal radio host Ed Schultz, who calls himself the “most listened-to progressive radio talk show host in America,” to anchor its 6 p.m. slot. The move will be officially revealed towards the end of Keith Olbermann’s broadcast on Wednesday night, according to a source familiar with the announcement.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:39 pmWe just don’t know where Schuster is going!
I think he knows his audience doesnt EXPECT him to make sense. Just toss out the buzzwords that make them comfortable. Socialit, Fascist, blah blah, lefty, blah. The few times I have seen him he doesnt even usually speak in complete sentences.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:40 pm“Glenn Beck: I was wrong. We’re not marching to socialism, we’re marching toward fascism.”
Transmitting to us once again moronic comments from Planet Wingnuttia.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:41 pmApril 1st, 2009 at 8:44 pm
katydid Says:
exactly… TP – another project for you! for US!
Lacewings “feed on just about any soft-bodied pest”. Hmmm, Glenn looks kind of “soft” doesn’t he?
April 1st, 2009 at 8:45 pmscary dangerous fake and creepy evil- once he would’ve been called a public enemy. kinda like jerry springer and the movie Moulon Rouge on steroids AND heroi n.
April 1st, 2009 at 8:46 pmBeck should march towards Walgreens for some lithium, serotonin-selective re-uptake inhibitors and some stool softener!
April 1st, 2009 at 8:49 pm“Glenn Beck: I was wrong. We’re not marching to socialism, we’re marching toward fascism.”
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More like Stupidism…
***TRoS muttering to self…***
G-damned ninny… yer giving me a BAD name… gonna have ta come up w/ a new online panhandle if this keeps up…
April 1st, 2009 at 9:29 pmOh, fer the luvva Jebus!! That drooling moron ought to just hit himself right between the eyes with a claw hammer – he’d look MUCH more intelligent doing *that*.
Holy crap. It’s the friggin’ March to Stupidism.
April 1st, 2009 at 9:36 pmroscoe Says:
“Not all conservatives are stupid; but most stupid people are conservative.” Jon Stewart
And Roscoe? The original quote of the above is from John Stuart Mill. ;o)
It’s still disquietingly true, isn’t it?
April 1st, 2009 at 9:48 pmIt’s hard to imagine anyone as ridiculous & useless as Beck, yet he is given a spot on TV. Good Lord, what is wrong with the people who put Beck & his like on TV?? What are they thinking? We can only assume they want to influence the most ill-informed, stupid, befuddled, ignorant people in the U.S. That’s certainly who they play to, with their fears, hatred, racism, and lies. Even Beck himself says that anyone who believes his crap is an “idiot”. So there you go.
April 1st, 2009 at 9:48 pm****************BREAKING*******************
THINKPROGRESS GOT PUNKED BY UPS!
Remember over the weekend when all these left wing-ding-bots got all hyped up over the whole UPS thing?? Well it turns out that the entire thing was false. Mr Faziz or w/e the hell his name is, made it seem that UPS canceled on the O’REILLY SHOW as a result of the email campaign. NOPE!!!! What credibility does this website have now if its managers are deceiving their own readers? None.
READ THIS:
Susan Rosenberg, spokeswoman for UPS, previously issued this statement to ThinkProgress (3/30/09):
We are writing to clarify our statement of last Friday because it appears to have been misinterpreted. UPS has not “pulled” any advertising from Fox News nor has the company taken a position on the “Think Progress” campaign. Our intent on Friday simply was to note that UPS does not have any pending advertising plans with the O’Reilly show.
Weep Weep Weep.
April 1st, 2009 at 9:51 pmThinkProgress has now attained that value of TRASH that Digg is.
wow – doesn’t take much to get ol’ hshthds all fired up, does it?
good for you, special trooper!
April 1st, 2009 at 9:57 pm(let’s not tell her she’s getting taken on a april fools day joke)
April 1st, 2009 at 9:58 pmHeh. Some of the low-hanging fruitcakes are very easily amused, aren’t they…?
So, hey, little buddy hstps, what’s the Easter bunny bringing you this year?
April 1st, 2009 at 10:01 pm“….undaunted, the intrepid klaat surrounds them, at last – they are had!!”
your interior monologue has got to be a HOOT, Mr. Klaat.
April 1st, 2009 at 10:04 pmhstps, got a LINK for this update?
April 1st, 2009 at 10:06 pmKlatuu Says:
Maybe someday you will make a coherent post that actually adds to discussion. And maybe someday I will grow wings and fly to the moon and go skinnydipping with Jessica Simpson. That is about as likely as anything intelligent for a bone ignorant moron like YOU
April 1st, 2009 at 10:28 pmWhere do they inbreed these trolls to get them so stupid?
April 1st, 2009 at 10:29 pmGlen Beck is the one marching his followers to fascism. The whole show reminds me of a dictator’s ralley from the 1930’s, and he sounds like one of them to. No Mr Beck, we would rather have facts than your bull sh$#.
Think.com enterprise with O’Reilly has been noticed and it has rattled some chains. O’Reilly going on Letterman, that is something. Their whole empire is getting very shakey. This littlt websight may not be the prime component, but I am sure Murdoch wished it would go away!!!!
April 1st, 2009 at 10:29 pmAh, here we are guys, I found something that should shed some light on this.
From page 73 of the GlennBecktionary:
Fascism (n) (Fah’-shiz-zum): A form of government characterized by a slowdown or reversal of its transformation into an extreme right-wing theocracy.
i.e.: [While weeping hysterically]“Those darn liberals took over the government and started our transition to fascism.”
Well, there we go, that explains everything!
April 1st, 2009 at 10:39 pmThis money sucking whore will say anything for a buck…
….but who in the world would listen to this kind of crap?
Oh, the Average Fox Viewer, forgot, it’s the whole IQ below 60 thing….
….but, hey, they’re special….extra special.
April 1st, 2009 at 10:49 pmBen Gleck is a complete moron. In magic undies.
April 1st, 2009 at 10:52 pmStephen Colbert destroyed Beck last night. It’s hilarious!
April 1st, 2009 at 11:10 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtGGAkd71xQ
“stewarjt Says:
The big problem is Glenn is leading his followers to fascism and doesn’t even know it.”
Oh, I beg to differ. The projection utilized by these people is trained and ingrained. They know exactly what they are doing–accusing the Democrats, the opposition, any critics–of doing that which they themselves are actually guilty. They are fascists.
They do this at every opportunity to convince an ignorant public that “their enemies” are fascists, socialists, murderers, or fill in the blank. They are promoting a fascist agenda–the control of government by corporate and military powers. If there are any real journalists out there, you are long overdue to define these terms and call these liars on their lying. Could that be why they won’t allow Franken to win his election? Reminds me of a book I read by someone named Al Franken: “Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them.”
April 1st, 2009 at 11:33 pmI laugh at Bedlam Beck but when I saw the clip with the Nazi soldiers marching in the backgroud, I thought about the neo-nazi skinhead groups in our country. Then I stopped laughing because who knows which group of crazies may perceive this as a message to start a nazi revolution! We all know how crazy folks are – we have terrorists living right here in the USA!
April 1st, 2009 at 11:44 pmOld Uncle Dave – Colbert was tooooooo hilarious!
April 1st, 2009 at 11:49 pmFascism with a happy face is a perfect description of Glenn Beck himself! Instead of the honest contempt for anyone questioning the “Right Wing” agenda exibited by O’Rielly, Hannity, Coulter, Crystal,etc., we get another cute puppy dog propagandist. Tony Snow’s & Brit Hume’s smile and delivery did not lessen the negative impact of their daily distortions.
April 1st, 2009 at 11:52 pmSocialism? Fascism? Call it whatever. Too much government control and economic central planning is bad for those that believe in the U.S. Constitution and liberty. Not that anyone cares about Constitution anymore.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:26 amLemme tell ya, I just spent a week arguing with these Neanderthals on NewsBusters, and they are DANGEROUS! I would advise all liberals to buy a gun and learn how to use it. Because I have no doubt that within my lifetime — and I’m 54 — there is going to be an armed revolt by the extreme right. And we’d damned well better know how to protect ourselves.
No hyperbole here, I’m serious as a heart attack.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:26 am.
Well, I’ll be…
… A whole thread about how America is on the march toward Fascism on a Socialist’s watch and Golden Showers is absent to explain to us how Socialists are Fascists, too. Who’da thunk?
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April 2nd, 2009 at 12:35 amUnless this is an April Fool joke, I believe Norm Coleman has conceded in Minnesota.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:37 am.
Of course it’s not Fascism when (R)ushpublickin’s do it, eh Tinkles?
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April 2nd, 2009 at 12:37 amI think Daily Kos is playing an April Fool Joke with the Coleman story.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 amMarie,
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 amI did a quick scan of Google and Yahoo news links and I got nothing but how difficult yesterday’s ruling makes it for Norm.
pi314 Says:
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:44 amI don’t want to see that happen but with Hannity, Bachman and Beck fanning the flames of hate – anything is possible!
kwsventures Says:
You dont know what people care about. You cant read minds. You project your inadeqacies on us. Clearly the Bush adminstration doesnt care about the constitution. YOU, well you never know what you are talking about.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 amDidn’t know about this site, and took a look. It’s amazing, these guys are finding “liberal bias” from Fox News contributors! Stay tuned. Next, they’ll find air in a vacuum.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:01 am.
Speaking of Fascism on the march…
Police ‘fusion’ centers criticized for tracking Ron Paul, Barr, McKinney supporters
Rachel Oswald
Published: Wednesday April 1, 2009
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Fusion_centers_targeted_by_rights_groups_0401.html
… Bush style!
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April 2nd, 2009 at 1:03 amA fascist, big brother-policy is the war on drugs.
Dear Mr. President,
Please remove the police-state and restore individual rights in society.
Thank you.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 amThis idiot is actually right about the U.S. marching toward fascism. I’m glad he finally noticed. But who’s leading the parade?
We know who: Republican nut-jobs like George W. Bush, Prescott Bush, George H.W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Richard Cheney, your own wigged-out boss, Rupert Murdoch, and all his employees, and of course, Glenn Beck himself.
Duh…
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:57 amThe angry self righteous right wingers eat Beck’s crap right up.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:52 amThe OLD right wing bloggers know Mr. Beck is full of it but, they repeat his nonsense constantly on the Internet to keep themselves occupied as they tea bag their way through lonely little lives.
Probably the only ones left watching Fox News are the narrow mindless lemmings of the Republican party and the self righteous bible thumping Neanderthals. Independent thinking individuals will find programs containing thought provoking issues and ideals to inspire intelligent debates and conversations which promotes change for the betterment of humanity. This is a subject matter lost to the likes of Beck and his ilk at Fox. Sorry Fox, but your station frequency is completely tuned out on my set.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 amhstps Says:
Flagged for cross thread trolling the dame tired rant
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:30 amBeck (and Hannity, Limbaugh, etc….. though I’m not so sure about Coulter — she’s a few apples short of a bushel) is aware of what he is doing: he knows that this is a complete misrepresentation. But there are two advantages to lying like this: first, it will cause some of the less informed people who hear it to believe it — and if THEY repeat it to others, the lie may spread even further. Second, the abuse of the term muddies up the term itself, since it does not get an equal refutation: eventually such things mean less even to intelligent people because the term has been forced to acquire a wtaered down definition, and has too many conflicting assosciations.
I think that it is offering too much credit to Rove to label this as his tactic (it’s a bit older, and I beleive that even in American politics it has already been used). But, on the other hand, it IS a distinct PART of the political strategies implemented by Rove (and to which the republicans still cling). It is propoganda — it is all about controlling the dialogue and controlling the language itself.
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:00 amBut “non-violent fascism” is kind of funny (and could be restated, maintaining that intent, as “pacifist fascism”) …. like….
Pacifist Fascism
Capitalist Communism
Authoritative Marxism
Democratic Dictatorship
Corporate Socialism
Anarchic Aristocracy
… I will work on this list… I am SURE this topic will arise again.
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:10 amIs Beck sucking on the juice again?
This has been going on for 30 years, and very much so under Bush.
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 amfascism with a happy face = Mussolini type fascism?
WTF?
Beck- still wrong all the time on all matters, great and small.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 amSo after 8 years of Bush/Cheney and the erosion of checks and balances as they broadened the authority of the executive branch, Beck fears Fascism now! He’s like a pinball bouncing around issues while hoping to capture the same fearful audience that Rush has nurtured for years through his radio shows.
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:45 ampi314 Says:
I would advise all liberals to buy a gun and learn how to use it. Because I have no doubt that within my lifetime — and I’m 54 — there is going to be an armed revolt by the extreme right.
Excellent, then they’re falling right into our trap. Once they openly declare revolt, they will have given up all legitimacy and may be eliminated by any means we see fit. I for one anxiously look forward to their little “rebellion.”
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:13 amfixed.
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:50 amSeems to me, if we’ve been marching towards socialism/communism, we HAVE TO turn around now and march towards fascism to get back to where we started…
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:54 amI think every one at fox should be sent to a mental hospital and tested for being insane or other problerms also for drugs, it seems only way to get a job at fox is for someone to have mental problems and cant tell the truth, or there all depressed so bad, they cant tell the diffrence between daylight and dark, its the only networth with so many morans.
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:55 amElbruce says the wingnuts might fall into a trap.
I don’t disagree. Same ole’ Republican Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act, new Democratic President.
Please do.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:19 pmJust like George W Bush, Beck is a fear monger, his BOZO the clown tactics are deplorable and idiotic.
He fits right in with all the right wing wackos at FIXED NEWS.
http://alice.bigbig.com/
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 pmHeading down the road of socialism or fascism is not good. Not that many of these people care, but when you accept food stamps, welfare, and any other taxpayer funded government handout, you are giving up some of your liberty and freedom. You have become dependent on the State. Therefore, the State can tell you what to do and when to do it. So, yes, you might think you are getting over and getting “freebies”, but the reality is you have given up some liberty. The more you accept, the less freedom you have.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:46 pmany one who listens to beck needs their head examined. Crying openly telling everyone who tuned in that they are all around they are coming for us I want to go back to the feeling we had as a country on 9/12 you know the day after9/11. Exposing the hypocrisy of Beck’s 9-12 project I am highlighting comments he made on September 9, 2005.You know, it took me about a year to start hating the 9/11 victims’ families. … I don’t hate all of them, I hate about, probably about ten of them. But when I see 9/11 victim family, you know, on television, or whatever, I’m just like, ‘Oh, shut up.’ I’m so sick of them. Because they’re always complaining. And we did our best for them. Another fox talking puppet head making an ass out of himself and those who fall for his line of lies
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pmnow anyone who has the audacity to disagree with him is a fascist well if we are he will be one of the first in the ovens (with great apologizes to any one who family lived through or were murdered in the Holocaust) Idiots like Beck
use these words without knowing the meaning behind them.and should be held accountable for this is no different than yelling fire in a crowded theater
Yeah, well as it stands now they’re a HELL of a lot better armed than we are. So be careful what you wish for.
What really disturbs me about all of this… If you take the crap people like Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter, Erick Erickson and Michele Bachman are spewing, and replace the word “Liberal” with the word “Jew”… you can get a pretty scary idea of where this all might be headed. We’re being called maggots, vermin, scum, treasonous, “siding with the enemy”, socialist, commmunist… How long before our own liberal “Kristallnacht”…?
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:25 pmHe should have just stopped after saying “I was wrong”. That would have been the most honest and sincere thing he could have ever said.It would have brought tears to my eyes and maybe his too.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:34 pmI don’t think any of you guys have ever watched his show-if you haven’t watched his show you shouldn’t comment on it.
On his definitions he read them out of the dictionary, and went through them one at a time and explained them.
What he meant by the 911 comment -mentally before 911 we had our heads in the sand after 911 we were a united as country , he wished we were united again.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:51 pmAlso all you complain about Fox news if you don’t like don’t watch!!!!
Libs have MSNBC , Republicans have FOX -you don’t see us crying about everything MSNBC puts on the air.
We just don’t watch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:56 pmOut!
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:04 pmYeah, but nobody on MSNBC — even at the height of the Bush/Cheney “crime spree” — was seemingly encouraging people to take up arms and revolt against their own government.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:41 pm@pi314
beck never said go get a gun and shoot people. NEVER!! Show me the episode. He asked peaceful protests unlike you leftists who will reort to breaking windows. And I’m not surprised you don’t know that Beck never said that, why?. Because you are just mirroing a fellow liberal commentator and you probably have never even seen the whole Glen Beck show. Proabbly just a few of the clips from YouTube that are mostly taken out of context.
And you know where you got that phrase from “Armed revolt” ? a disgusting US military hater known as Bill Maher. He’s the one that made that story up.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 pmHey asswipe, what part of “seemingly encouraging people” did you not understand.
I’ve seen almost ALL of Beck’s spews, because I want to know what the right wing is doing. And while he hasn’t actually encouraged people to take up arms, the message from Bachman and Levin and Erickson is a bit less clear.
So Bachman and Levin and Erickson support the actual revolt, while Beck supports the theory behind the revolt.
He gets no pass from me.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:11 pmI give credit to Faziz and Amanda, real credit.
Faziz made you all believe that UPS stopped advertising on O’Reilly because of his campaign, and Amanda made you all believe that she was a victim. (hint: the real victim was the poor woman who got raped).
They know how to manipulate minds, they would make excellent military leaders.
My hats off to Faziz and Amanda for accomplishing this level of control over the members of this community. Their power is truly astonishing.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:25 pmIf you think Beck lied abut us becoming fascists: look up the definition. Seems to me he is right- and I applaud him for having the guts to stand up and say it! It’s a shame more talking heads don’t have the guts to speak the truth anymore! And its even sadder that so many people have no idea what the concept means. Go Beck!
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 pmSorry, I don’t know who either one of those people are.
I know the definition quite well. And it ain’t a pic of Obama that appears beside it in the dictionary.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 pmSpeaking of the U.S. having moved toward fascism:
George W. Bush moved the U.S. in the direction of fascism.
Bush is the worst president ever.
Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang, J.D. Candidate
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:14 pmB.S., With the Highest Level of Academic Honors at Graduation, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993
BRAGGART!!! lol
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:10 amConfederates can try their ill-fated revolution – it doesnt matter if they have more guns and ammo stored up. The Union has every other advantage – guns are easily manufactured – civillians can easily learn to shoot. The Confederates may have more Officers, but the Union has the rank and file, most of the money, and most of the intelligence. America ALREADY IS a revolution, Confederates.
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:22 amConfederates, America IS a revolution, and we are not going back. Keep agitating Confederates, the Union Army will give you something to cry about.
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:24 amFauxNews should hire John Hurt. He was far better at this than Beck.
“People shouldn’t be afraid of their governments.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 pmGoverments should be afraid of their people.” V
“It all adds up to me, having to admit that I was wrong. Our government is not marching down the road towards communism or socialism. … But now I have to tell you that they’re not marching us that direction. They’re marching us to a non-violent fascism. Or to put it another way, they’re marching us to 1984. Big Brother. … Like it or not, fascism is on the rise.”
Any other unstable*(genetically pre-disposed), narcissistic, ‘was/am a drunk but now I’m all fu*ked up on the lord’, babbling this sh*t as per his 1st Amendment standing on a milk crate on a street corner in downtown urban Anywhere USA could be ignored/avoided by just crossing the street. This difference is that while ALL speech is ‘free’ BUT ‘money controls the volume’ and this nutbag is well-funded, making him not only more annoying, but, also dangerous. (Note: He has ‘armed’ revolution followers on his 9-12 site that I’ve personally turned over to the Secret Service/ATF for ‘follow up’.
Time to take a look at his corporate sponsors and get them on the record like Loofha boy (aka the stalker)O’Reilly.
* Personal life
Born in Mount Vernon, Washington, Glenn Beck was raised a Roman Catholic. He graduated from Sehome High School in Bellingham, Washington in 1982.
His early life was pitted with tragedies. His mother and one of his brothers-in-law committed suicide, and a sibling reportedly had a fatal heart attack.[8]
Beck is a self-described recovering alcoholic. He and his first wife divorced amid his struggle with substance abuse. Beck cites the help of Alcoholics Anonymous in his sobriety, and he eventually converted to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which teaches against the consumption of alcohol.
Beck has spoken often of his religious beliefs and conversion. “God stalked me!…He had a giant baptismal rifle,” Beck said. “I thwarted him. I led people astray as much as I could, but he kept putting Mormons in my way.”[9]
By his first marriage, Beck has two teenage daughters, Hannah and Mary, who has cerebral palsy. With his second wife, Tania, he has two children, Raphe (adopted in 2004) and Cheyenne (born 2006).
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 pmsesli chat ,
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:43 pmsesli sohbet thanks
Progressives are fascists
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:46 pmAaaaannnnnd thank you for your Goldberg talking points recital.
Next!
April 4th, 2009 at 12:03 amdems check this out
April 6th, 2009 at 7:07 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuEc-nFULY8
Wow, look what I’ve come across. A liberal lovefest! OK, time to crash this party by demolishing a few liberal myths, and I’ll target the “fascism is a right-wing ideology” as the first one.
Here’s a definition of economic fascism most of you libs have never heard of: the control of the means of production and distribution by government without outright ownership.
“What?? What the heck is that??” you libs say. Well, strictly speaking, that’s your Obama bailout of the car industry. That’s your having Premier Obama (no use calling him the president anymore) force the removal of GM’s head as if Obama has some connection with the company (he DOESN’T!). That’s your Obama bailout of AIG and the banks. It’s also your minimum wage laws, your environmental restrictions on companies, even your civil rights in the workplace laws.
Fascism is a form of SOCIALISM, people! It is a LEFTIST ideology! Have any of you ever bothered to even read the Nazi Party manifesto and actually look at the ideas they proposed. You think FDR was the first to come up with the idea of Social Security? The Nazis preceded him in their manifesto by 13 years. Oh yes, your beloved Social Security is there too!
“But…but, but, but, that can’t be! Fascism is a right-wing ideology! Heck, nobody was more anti-communist than Hitler!” What, that socialist freak who spoke to his officers on February 5, 1941 and said that “former communists are to be admitted into the Party at once!”?? Sure Hitler hated Stalin. They were the two bullies on the block. I suppose you could find two bullies at any given school in America who hate each other but are actually pretty much like each other. They only envy each other’s turf. But there’s a REASON why the Nazis adopted the Marxist-like name “National Socialist German Worker’s Party” for themselves. As their name stated, they were SOCIALISTS!
Of course, Mussolini doesn’t help your case much either. He formed the Fascist Party after leaving, what else, the Socialist Party!
Think, people, please think. Imagine a political spectrum with total government on the left and no government on the right, with the balanced middle that is a constitutional republic. Fascism involves government control of the businesses without owning them. Does that put it in the region of leftist big government or rightist small government? Please, please use a little logic and try to escape from the years of media brainwashing you have received in answering this one. Swastika equals hammar and sickle, got it? The only differences are the targets of their propaganda (Jews for one, bourgeoisie for the other). The end result is the same: Joe Public’s freedom gets destroyed as he becomes a slave of the state.
OK, now I’m off to destroy another liberal myth, one which is related to this. Let me introduce you to Ernst Roehm and his German homosexual Nazis. Oh, boy is that one going to make your heads spin!
(BTW, anybody seen my fasces around here? I know I left that Roman ceremonial battleaxe around here somewhere!)
April 7th, 2009 at 3:10 amObama bin Lyin Says:
You arent demolishing anything. You are showing how utterly stupid you are. I couldnt read your entire post as it was so full of bone ignorant moronity my braincells were begging for the sweet release of a coma at the first paragraph. Look moron. NO ONE that has any rational concept of the political spectrum puts Fascism anywhere but on the right. It is that simple. Push all the stupid you can it wont change reality. Yeah a corporate business alliance is ONE of the aspects of fascism. That would be left HOW? Public cost and private profit is what we are talking about and it is an absolutly RIGHTWING agenda.
Here are the 14 points of fascism
14 POINTS OF FASCISM
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
From the prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins, the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was usually coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on xenophobia.
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
The regimes themselves viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda, the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
Ruling elites always identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute. The military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations, and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite.
5. Rampant sexism
Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.
6. A controlled mass media
Under some of the regimes, the mass media were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in keeping the general public unaware of the regimes’ excesses.
7. Obsession with national security
Inevitably, a national security apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting “national security,” and questioning its activities was portrayed as unpatriotic or even treasonous.
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together
Unlike communist regimes, the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the ruling elite’s behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and opponents of the “godless.” A perception was manufactured that opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.
9. Power of corporations protected
Although the personal life of ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure military production (in developed states), but also as an additional means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of interests, especially in the repression of “have-not” citizens.
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
Since organized labor was seen as the one power center that could challenge the political hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass, viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being poor was considered akin to a vice.
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or they had no right to exist.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment
Most of these regimes maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked power, leading to rampant abuse. “Normal” and political crime were often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of criminals or “traitors” was often promoted among the population as an excuse for more police power.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
Those in business circles and close to the power elite often used their position to enrich themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the national security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this corruption was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the general population.
14. Fraudulent elections
Elections in the form of plebiscites or public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.
NOTE: The above 14 Points was written in 2004 by Dr. Laurence Britt, a political scientist. Dr. Britt studied the fascist regimes of: Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile).
If you can read those 14 points and continue to maintain that fascism is a leftist political view then congratulations your brainwashing is complete, you are a moron, and have no capacity for independent thought left
April 8th, 2009 at 7:30 amPi314, Hi remember me? I was the one getting flak for defending you to conservatives.
Anyways you invited me, so can ya show around?
April 12th, 2009 at 2:30 amMy Liberal Friends
I have read your comments, some thoughtful, some mindless and hateful. If I may I would like to add some pertinent facts and, as difficult as it may seem, defend Glenn Beck. Historians are not in agreement on what exactly is meant by fascism: Wikipedia says “Historians do not place all fascists in the same position on the political spectrum – groups have been placed “left, right and center,” or not even in the spectrum at all” but there are some aspects of the definition given in The Concise Encyclopedia of Economics that should sound familiar to anyone who has followed the politics of our new president. For instance: “Levels of consumption were dictated by the state, and “excess” incomes had to be surrendered as taxes” Does this not sound like President Obama’s class warfare taxes on the rich? Or how about: “To maintain high employment and minimize popular discontent, fascist governments also undertook massive public-works projects financed by steep taxes, borrowing, and fiat money creation” Sounds familiar to me. So it would seem that Mr Beck is correct in identifying some of the Chosen Ones actions as fascist. We may not like how he presents his message but that does not detract from it’s accuracy. As for your attacks on George W? Knock yourself out; he is not a small government, Tenth Amendment Conservative. His stimulus package was just as fascist and just as unnecessary as the Chosen Ones’.
April 14th, 2009 at 8:05 pmEugene atrax robustus Debs
1)In the last two election cycles the majority of money donated by Wall Street went to democrat candidates – I believe the amount was 63% this last time. That might explain your qustion about how the corporate business alliance is associated with the left.
April 14th, 2009 at 8:29 pm3)You have given one set of definitions for fascism. I read several and all included centralized, big government. That is a central tenent of the left, not Tenth Amendment conservatives.
3)Have you tried decaf?
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